Muhamed the Mathematical Horse | Tales From the Bottle

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[@PathBeyondTheDark]

Not meaning to offend, but I wish channels such as this would encourage their audience to learn the warning signs when it comes to videos covering those clearly mentally ill. Getting them treatment can prevent tragedies.

[@CaptCorgi]

ya know, Honestly, Reading people that well is absolutely insanely smart for a horse, the real explanation is more interesting to me than the bogus idea of a horse that could do math

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Exactly, Mrs. Jett kitty just told me that horses are way too stupid to do math before becoming manipulative again to get a little bacon added to her fancy beast cat food...

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Pretty astounding how well they can read a human.

[@boldCactuslad]

got a feelin' all the ancestral horses, dogs etc that weren't great at reading people just didn't make it

[@jwr2904]

​@@boldCactuslad yeah, I tried to explain that concept to my Mom, she didn't like it.

[@krakenpots5693]

Animals don't use vocal language, and so rely hugely on body language to communicate. So much so, that they become better mentalists than humans!

[@Kxvito]

Do you ever sit down with your parents and they ask you what video you're making and you tell them It's something like "Muhamed the Mathematical Horse"

[@HipHopBeatle]

Still a better conversation than 90% of the conversations I’ve had with my parents lol

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

If they weren't being disparaging or subtly humiliating you through psychological manipulation, then you're doing great, in my experience. If they said they are proud of your success, then something is clearly outrageously wrong. A hole has been ripped in the space-time continueum, and Kim Jong Un is proud to be an American. Seriously, if you have nice parents, appreciate them - you're blessed and lucky.

[@PneumaticFrog]

​@@Dwigt_Rortugalskill issue

[@jasonvivar1282]

@@PneumaticFrogright?

[@PneumaticFrog]

@@SatanSavedMe google it

[@anonymous5405]

I love that the owner probably genuinely believed the horse was smart

[@RisingRevengeance]

Right! That was my favorite part. And he was being called a trickster so he was probably pissed well before all that

[@Reece983]

@@RisingRevengeance isnt being smart usually at the moment and in a particular way smarter a requirement for being able to trick someone else

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@Reece983 Not necessarily. You don't necessarily need to be smart to out"smart" most people, just look confident and plausible enough that unless someone genuinely knows something is wrong, nobody's gonna challenge you. If that horse showed up in a high viz jacket with a clipboard you'd probably let him into anything without looking too much into it. I mean he's probably supposed to be there, right?

[@Reece983]

@RAFMnBgaming he probably works for the elevator company

[@viktorbirkeland6520]

​@@RAFMnBgaming Yes of course, I would let the horse in anywhere it needed to go, why would the horse be dressed like that if it wasn't supposed to be there? I find it far-fetched a horse would try to trick me, so I'd trust it and let it do it's job! No carrots inside, though!

[@TheSourKraut]

That horse was soo smart, he was turned into SUPER-glue

[@skylined5534]

Sticks to your 'Super Hans' like... er, glue.

[@stephanieparker1250]

Ooo clever!

[@Matt-vo1ge]

The original patent for cyanoacrylate was filed in 1947

[@slyseal2091]

@@Matt-vo1ge It took me a month, but I found the man who asked! He did not wish to comment

[@DeadMeat991]

@@slyseal2091 Reddit tier.

[@Studeb]

Damn, you'd think that being a super smart horse would save you from becoming cannon fodder, couldn't they have ended up in code breakers or something like that?

[@derrickmcadoo3804]

Unless you're a politician's son, you're always going to be cannon fodder. War is terrible.

[@Z38_US]

I'm just imagining a horse standing right outside the enemy communication center looking through the window secretly cracking their code to bring it back across friendly lines. Like I would probably question the fact that a horse is standing out there looking very close at us but I wouldn't think it could do that lol

[@PunishedSpindle300]

Who else remember Turings equine sidekick, Hoofings

[@viktorbirkeland6520]

​@@Z38_US Yep. I'd be extremely suspicious of it, but at the same time, I'd underestimate it. I'd think it was probably waiting to snatch a bundle of papers or something! How hilarious though, if they tried to get it to break codes, as they'd either get a random non working code, or the horse would stand there tapping indefinitely, waiting for the signal the handler can't give, as he doesn't know either!

[@cannae920]

That's actually an extremely interesting suggestion. These horses might actually have been very useful in interrogation. The interrogator would ask true or false questions, and the horse would read the cues of the interrogated to tell whether it was true or false. Probably a better option than even a human that was trained to learn the cues, because the horse would have 0 bias, since they can't even understand the question!

[@ShihammeDarc]

Well recognizing patterns in human facial expressions for a horse is more impressive than recognizing math patterns to me.

[@Reece983]

it shouldn't be dogs are even better at this, well some dogs are some are a bit slower lol same with horses they can be actual lobotomites

[@lsswappedcessna]

@@Reece983 Dogs have been literally bred for thousands of years to be insanely good at reading body language. Horses, probably not as much. Not to mention wild canines are pretty damn smart to begin with and are just a few generations of selective breeding and constant human contact off of having similar capabilities. Look at the russian foxes. 60 years ago they were all ordinary foxes, now they're basically higher maintenance dogs in both their mellow temperament and their social intelligence. Belyayev set out to research how the dog may have been made and ended up creating the potential for man to have another best friend.

[@tezzanoia]

​@@lsswappedcessna thing with horses is, that they are incredibly good at recognising the smallest changes in their environment. They have to be, they're prey animals. They're so good that you can have it that you go on a ride on the exact same path every day and one day the horse will refuse to leave the property or at least suddenly become incredibly nervous for seemingly no reason. But the thing is, there probably is a reason, maybe something is standing there that doesn't belong, something humans wouldn't even recognise or pay attention to. But the horse does, because its life may depend on it (of course it doesn't actually, since it's not a wild horse, but that instinct is still there, in some more than others). And once you know just how good they are at recognising the smallest changes, you see how these horses have learned to pay attention to the questioner's body language changing and acting accordingly, as they have learned that getting that right means food

[@Skorpychan]

@@lsswappedcessna Horses are draft animals, so they're bred for obedience just like dogs.

[@Reece983]

@lsswappedcessna im with my cat who is passing with my right now and thank you for this response

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

"Don't question me, boy! IMMA WAR HORSE!" I love the way you drew the horse this episode. I had no idea it was possible to make a horse look like a jerk!

[@PoisonedAl]

I'm impressed he can draw a horse.

[@epapuelvalve3250]

or handsome

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

The way he handled that potato masher...

[@p1nstark]

Bojack

[@erikstephens6370]

Bojack Horseman.

[@mattypusplatypus3340]

"Muhamed, what is 4 + 4?" Muhamed: "Neight"

[@Keegmeister]

I hate how good this is.

[@Maker0824]

Man, that was a really subtly 9+10=21 joke. Props to you

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

that was subtle?!

[@SahidBecdach]

I was looking if someone else noticed it. Glad I wasn´t the only one

[@Skorpychan]

That was a joke?

[@imperfectly-balanced8861]

​@@Skorpychanif you want to "get real technical" than it's more of a reference than a joke. (If you don't understand the reference then search up "9+10=21")

[@SahidBecdach]

@@Skorpychan I'd say it's more like a reference

[@PlutoTheGod]

Isn’t the horse technically still smarter then the people considering the crowd was fooled by the idea a horse was a mathematician? Plus they believed they had a magic horse and STILL sent him to the front lines

[@skylined5534]

No, the horse was as 'smart' as his training. So while smart it's no different than modern magicians using those in and not in the loop to complete the illusion.

[@miqsm]

no hes the smartest horse ever @@skylined5534

[@anonymous5405]

Not really because the horse didn’t think it was a mathematician either

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@skylined5534 We dont know about muhamed but hans seemed to have been mistakenly (yet successfully) trained as the owner himself didn't understand the trick.

[@swedishfish2357]

No. Luckily intelligence isn't gauged by how easy it is to trick someone. Also there are a lot more aspects to measuring intelligence. Hence why computers aren't necessarily "smarter" than people despite being able to arrive at answers much more quickly and accurately

[@lavenderlumber]

A horse cold reading and doing magic tricks is way more amazing than merely doing addition.

[@rickyrico80]

That's a horse you can count on.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Horse counts YOU!

[@techman8817]

Nothing behoofed him.

[@Sp0on777]

Great comment

[@davidjames4890]

I didn't know there were more horses like Beautiful Jim Key, really lovely to hear more about the intellectual capabilities of animals.

[@revmo37]

Thanks for mentioning Jim Key. Truly amazing !👍

[@workoutandread]

Because it's still bullshit, animals do not have superhuman levels of body language reading

[@patrickwantstodie4894]

This video is edited really well

[@vustvaleo8068]

a mathematician war hero horse would make a kickass cartoon show.

[@skylined5534]

Better than that Bowack Horseface cartoon.

[@ripevanwinkle494]

Lmao

[@Derna1804]

"Snickers, tap once if we can make it, twice if we're doomed" *clack clack*

[@stevet5801]

@@Derna1804lol, I love that you are asking the horse for guidance in that situation 😂 I’d have to say something back like “oh yes the fuck we are gonna make it Snickers!”

[@Derna1804]

@@stevet5801 The horse is kind of the hero tho, like Lassie.

[@JamesFromTexas]

That was actually pretty wholesome considering I was expecting a con man. Nope, just brilliant horses!

[@Lockirby2]

I guess that makes it a con horse.

[@RijaMo]

This was the perfect "watch while you eat" vid. Perfect length, chill topic.

[@monty2325]

*that feeling when you reset your tab and Qxir's 30 second old video pops up* pure ecstasy

[@RisingRevengeance]

The fact that the owner himself didn't know how it worked is the best part. Seriously it's impressive what subtle things animals can pick up, in comparison we really suck at it (especially men (mostly me)).

[@AWormsPurpose]

As if I couldn't hate horses more, now I know of a race of intelligent, pompous, veteran, snitch horses that can read minds

[@RIFLQ]

Don't you watch the whole video?

[@AWormsPurpose]

@@RIFLQ Yeah. What did i miss?

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

Why would anyone hate horses?

[@jacobmantlo6371]

Those pesky horses

[@trueilarim]

I do not know either. Maybe @RIFLQ is not so smart as he thinks he is.@@AWormsPurpose

[@laturnich9507]

I once took a tour of an old mine where they used to use horses to pull the mine carts. The guide told a story about a horse that genuinely was mathematically gifted. It could count all the way to five: it would happily pull four fully loaded mine carts but refused to move when hitched up to five empty ones.

[@CharemTheShadox]

Sounded like it had learned at some point that pulling 5 loaded mine carts wasn't very fun, and from that day on set a hard cut-off of 4 carts. Smart horse to fully understand the cause and effect in that situation, and indeed keep track of basic counting. Thanks for the story!

[@Cooe.]

It wasn't counting. It could tell the difference in force when it pulled. Pulling 5 carts will feel different than pulling 4. I can almost guarantee that horse still has absolutely zero concept of mathematical numbers as we understand them though.

[@CharemTheShadox]

@@Cooe. From the sound of it, it learned that 5 full carts was too much, and thus refused to pull 5 carts from then on whether or not they were full. Which is actually fairly-realistic: it didn't fully understand the correlation of variable weight affecting the result, since that was more complex and indeed variable based on which carts were loaded and how much, making it hard/impossible for a horse to math out. However, it could do basic counting, see 5 carts, and go 'I remember this, that was too much before, so I refuse that many'. ...Or if it really bothers you to contemplate that a horse could potentially count to 5, then it can visually see the number of carts in its vision, consider how many there are there, and make a judgement call of if it's okay with the amount. Sure, it doesn't completely understand the concept of numbers likely, but it can still understand that 4 of a thing is less than 5 of a thing; that's just basic observation and coherence and animals literally do that all of the time to simply survive and thrive. (Like a momma fox keeping track of how many kits she has.)

[@joeg5414]

@@CharemTheShadox that pretty much sums it up and is most logical😂

[@waveygravey9347]

Only Qxir can make me feel smart by learning something new, and at the same time make me feel dumber than a horse.

[@JTA1961]

Well put.😊

[@stevenc123]

We're seeing this happen with AI models. There was one made to tell the difference between Russian and American tanks by feeding it lots of photos. It appeared to be able to do this with a high degree of accuracy, but it turned out it was doing it by looking at the sky. Photos of American tanks tended to have bright blue skies, and photos of Russian tanks tended to have cloudy grey skies. due to the different climates in each country.

[@abdelali9279]

Scholars, illusionists and war heroes, these horses had more fulfilling lives than many of us!

[@plzletmebefrank]

This is a great way to introduce the concept of double blinds to students. And yet... Not one of my college professors has ever mentioned the Clever Hans Effect.

[@SplittTwig]

I had no idea they drafted horses lol. It makes sense but wow I neeever thought about where the horses came from before. Qxir is getting funnier and more interesting with every upload. proud of you!

[@RisingRevengeance]

Not something I had thought of either. Makes sense that the army didnt have a stable of millions of horses I suppose.

[@SplittTwig]

He liked my comment sweet! Its the little things in life.

[@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378]

​@@RisingRevengeance It's bittersweet thing that we never see him again

[@pgtmr2713]

Draft horses? You should see the carrier pigeons!

[@elias7748]

A draft horse is a work horse

[@parzival4968]

A horse walks into a bar he says “ow who put that bar there”

[@skylined5534]

😂

[@JMUDoc]

So... the horse wasn't doing maths, but it WAS a body-language expert!? THAT just raises FURTHER questions!

[@masahchief6865]

Your illustrations get better every episode, and so do the outrageous stories!

[@ajp5556]

Opening had me dying already😂

[@hughgrection3052]

Ikr. The way he drew the horses leg in the first scene alone cracked me up. It looked like a... well go back and watch it again and you'll see 😂

[@lavasharkandboygirl9716]

Anyone whose spent time working with horses shouldn’t be surprised by this. Horses ability to read their handlers is genuinely uncanny. My mums horses have regularly gotten into a tizzy when mum was in a bad mood. It genuinely feels like they’re reading your mind

[@wastelandguy]

The best feeling ever is seeing a new Tales From the Bottle right when you’re about to start eating. Congratulations on 1 million subscribers man

[@Simoxs7]

When he said that the horse couldn’t do it if it didn’t see the handler it kind of reminded me of the AI that was supposed to recognize skin cancer and ended up only recognizing whether there’s a ruler in the picture or not. I think the solution is exactly what an AI would do…

[@panqueque445]

"Mathematician and mystic" God what a cool job title

[@buzzlightyearpfp7641]

6:14 might just be the funniest moment in qxir history. The art, the context, and just the absurdity of everything

[@Citadel_local]

7:46 Love how the suitcase says "No bombs here".

[@gk4204]

It’s Qxir day. Some plebeians might call it Friday but those of us in the know, know it’s Qxir day for sure. lol. Thank you for the great doodles.

[@texo456]

You will never know how much that beginning joke got me. My voice is hoarse and my abs are aching😂

[@CharemTheShadox]

If your voice was 'horse' right from the start, then you were set up well to watch this video. :P

[@texo456]

@@CharemTheShadox goddammit🤣

[@Derna1804]

Werner Herzog's 1979 film version of Woyzeck involves a scene with a horse trained to do the tapping trick, so perhaps it's not particularly rare to find a horse capable of doing it.

[@skylined5534]

Every horse I've known could do it with ease.

[@Derna1804]

@@skylined5534 You could probably get a dog to do it too with enough practice and treats.

[@salam-peace5519]

In Shrek 2 there is also a reference to this. After Shrek transformed into a human and Donkey into a stallion, Donkey says "I can count" while tapping his hoof on the ground.

[@0Onyx13]

Damn, math or not, that's one hell of a smart horse! Two horses actually!

[@blobofdespair]

Seriously one of my favorite channels on KZbin. Super interesting topic this week!

[@fabiansierra7622]

Congrats on the 1 million subs!!! Still not enough for this channel and it’s content.

[@JohnDoe-cz5yz]

I honestly don't know what's more impressive - a horse that can count or a horse that reads faces so good that everybody got fooled.

[@Pangea_Nomad]

I'll have a drink for Muhamed. This is the horse that I need.

[@Pangea_Nomad]

...But goddammit he was the slowest horse at the tracks tho.

[@thomasbell7033]

You've ourdone yourself with the art on this one. There were several lol's in there. Well played, my Hibernian friend.

[@LazarusBaccus]

Isn't that just life, first you disappoint your parents by telling them you want to teach mathematics to horses, then you accidentally teach the horses next level facial recognition.

[@marcopohl4875]

Given how smart both of these horses were, I like to think they manadged to escape their handlers before arriving at the battlefield.

[@ConfusedAndFunny1]

So glad the lax cartoon drawing is back, adds so much more depth and connection to the content

[@FSToxin74]

always a good day whenever you post, amazing job on the horse doodles

[@JTA1961]

Yes & Yes.

[@gyromurphy]

Ive never been called a dumbass in such an endearing way.

[@salam-peace5519]

I just remembered that in Shrek 2, right after Shrek transformed into a human and Donkey into a stallion, Donkey says "I can count" while tapping his hoof on the ground. This is probably a reference to these stories that Dreamworks put in the movie.

[@RustyorBroken]

Rumor has it that the horse's reward for getting a question correct was receiving a handy.

[@mojadisco1812]

I’m so glad we’re back to these drawn images by the master himself

[@Name-ot3xw]

Clever Hans learned how to extract treats from his caregivers, a very important skill for all of us.

[@CharemTheShadox]

Honestly, I think a horse showing that much emotional intelligence and reading people's nuances that well, is far more impressive than any logical intelligence. Anybody can learn some math, but showing that much empathy is not something even humans can always learn.

[@Yukinebi]

Dude I have literally been here for years, and Qxir is still making hilarious videos 😂 That was a banger

[@BoomerMulligan]

Thanks for using your animation and your cartoon talent on this one I'm glad when you do it, great job 😊

[@aaron6178]

That was spectacular! haha. Man, you can sure present a story like no other, m'lad. You're an absolute crack up. G'day from Oz.

[@paulyiustravelogue]

I am also fond of Mr Horse from REN & Stimpy, and his profound line…. “No sir, I don’t like it.” 😂

[@elroma7712]

I love how you used the concept of "False Protagonist" in your video. We thought that Muhammed would be the MC but nope it was Clever Hans. Bravo.

[@FitzTrippleZ]

always love the Qxir upload notification

[@C0wy_]

the way this guy draws horses tickles me in a way i cant describe

[@Keegmeister]

This horse can solve square roots and is a war hero. Meanwhile, here I am having to ask someone to repeat themselves and then not hearing what they said AGAIN.

[@lukewalters6528]

Great vid qxir, I know these must be hard to make but every time I see a new qxir vid on my feed, I click it. No questions asked

[@kingvideogames]

The intro joke is funnier than it has anyright to be.

[@BriarLeaf00]

I actually grew up watching a docu-series called Mr. Edward all about a horse that learned to speak English. They are really intelligent animals.

[@RobD-jq7ry]

I saw that too. He could dial a rotary phone with a pencil is his mouth. Very intelligent animal.

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

Of course, of course.

[@Nemopoly]

There's a great video out there about a horse called Mr. Hands.

[@epicwin789]

Glad to see that the drawings have returned!

[@mobucks555]

I friggin love this channel.

[@chrispalmer3548]

Animations for this one were fffarking good lad I loved em

[@WobblesandBean]

It's astounding to me that anyone was fooled by this. It's like a child looking to their parents who react a certain way when they do something, the parents act happy and so the kid thinks "ah I'm going to keep doing this".

[@TheKingOfNachosTM]

nah it really happened, i was there

[@MrDeutschGerman]

Major redditor vibes

[@Chromeno]

it took excessive research to realise the horse was taking queues from the reactions of the questioners. I guarantee you assumed it was 100% real until Qxir brought that up.

[@LorainPsycho]

What's a horse?

[@Covid--xs3yk]

Still a pretty smart horse either way

[@mc_hamza20]

7:43 You have done a very decent job writing those!

[@igitha..._]

I'm gonna take a wild guess that it was the lead-lined hats that started the phenomena of horse--clop counting.

[@rickyrico80]

Lol nobody got hurt with a bit of lead here or there, those hatters were onto something.

[@skylined5534]

​@@rickyrico80 They certainly wear'.

[@IronAceSUB]

Thanks for the great videos Qixr! ❤

[@enderkatze6129]

You can probably train a horse to genuinly do Math via this Method by teaching Them to associate different combinations and Symbols with different numbers

[@gamingboynola]

I’m glad to see the little drawings back they are better than the AI art in my opinion, love your videos!

[@concretestag5474]

Happy to see the art back!!!

[@Justin-pe9cl]

The 9+10 joke almost got past me. I was focused on how the horse was doing this. 🤣

[@yogithebear7493]

Thank you sm for listijgn and brining the drawings back boss

[@Pozorrogo]

I love how happy yet dumb you draw your horses lol. Im an artist too and if you had me draw a horse by memory I would probably break down and cry

[@daikoophasianidae]

horse : **taps left twice taps right once** karl krall : "you stoopid"

[@ilikepigeons6101]

7:44 the writing says "no bombs here" lmao

[@archise3191]

Being able to read people that well is much more impressive than being able to do math honestly

[@DrRipper19]

Now I need a movie about Muhammed and Hans serving in the war together.

[@JosephFarrell-kl9ty]

Congrats on a million subs mate...

[@hegatinekul8196]

0:52😂 love your drawings and humor

[@Br0ns0n]

Congrats on breaking the million subscriber mark!

[@TheRogueAdventurers]

We salute the chad horse

[@Aiden_Pearce_2003]

i love that the number 21 is just connected to that legendary video.

[@Chiefs_fan1595]

2:37 possibly my favorite drawing you ever done for a video

[@Qxir]

Lot of contenders for that one. There were close to 200 slides in this video. Considering this is my 202nd video, there's plenty of competition ;)

[@NardelliFilmesOficial]

love your content! greetings from Brazil!

[@vexusvexed]

You have to be pretty emotionally and mentally strong to read body language, reading from his owner or not, this was one damn smart horse.

[@cygnia]

Qxir, your horse drawings are adorable

[@krusader9508]

We live in a universe where Muhamed the German math horse was a REAL being.

[@peterose3390]

That horse was good at maths, grammar, communicating and on top of that he fought for his people in the great war! And what did you do today?

[@Madworld_NZ]

I had to check the upload date, I thought this was an April first joke. 😂 That's pretty smart how the horse worked out the answer!

[@zzzanon]

5:10 🤣 great sound effect

[@dylantemplarnight4725]

I love your videos man, keep up the amazing work.💜

[@TwoHeadedMeerkat]

Man, if I had a nickel for every super-genius horse that went MIA in World War 1 after a successful career of doing basic math, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@TheScramblerTV]

Oskar Pfungst is such a great name

[@Leatherargento]

As someone with dyscalculia, I bow to this horse.