Mulan (2020) - Nostalgia Critic

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[@jaemelancholy1684]

Review Infinity Train on HBO max And my little Pony Rainbow Rocks it's a very good movie. And Justice Unlimited the Cadmus arc is amazing

[@TheAvram25]

DISHONOR ON ALL THESE DISNEY REMAKES!

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Review The Simpsons Movie and South Park Bigger, Longer & Uncut.

[@captainhook1911]

Can you review Peter Pan (2003) or Curse of the Black Pearl?

[@jerricablackcat4303]

Can you review Robots?

[@robpagenkopf5829]

Who would have thought taking out the songs, Mushu, Cri-Kee, and Mulan’s personality as well as any heart, depth, growth, or just all emotions in general would result in a bad movie? Simply shocking.

[@nerdscornercollectibles7902]

At least they didn’t cgi mushu and cri-kee though

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Right?

[@raven3067]

@@nerdscornercollectibles7902 I would much prefer that than what they originally did.

[@meep9231]

Ah yes, one of the many, many, many, many MANNY reasons why I’ve lost faith in Disney films

[@raven3067]

@@meep9231 Big facts

[@slashtheporcupine6746]

Fun fact: the reason why the actress is so wooden, boring and rarely emotes is because she has said that it helps make her more pretty. I am not joking. Also, I love how the directors said that they removed Mushu because they didn’t want any magic in the movie while giving us a witch and a phoenix.

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293]

She's an actress! She starred in that movie to act! Didn't she!

[@Etherman7]

It's not even like it's a cultural thing, there's some really good tearjerking performances from the late great Hong Kong studios. This lady just doesn't want to emote.

[@user-qj9en1kp1m]

I have the suspicion that when she is mocking her make-up (apparently it was based on real Chinese make-up, but re-created in a very disrespectful way) by demonstrating how there is no difference between her facial expressions, she was not being sarcastic. That was a legit demonstration and guide of her acting range. I don't know, maybe in other movies she gave a better performance, but here she had the same expression throughout the entire movie. The voice actress of the original Mulan had more intonations in one line than New Mulan had in a 100 lines!

[@andreasmeelie1889]

Wait........ where on earth did you read that about the actress?!😱

[@tencents6]

That...that's not how life works. I'm not telling you this, I'm telling the actress this. If you're an actress, you act. Imagine if a cook said, "I'm not making really great dishes, because I don't want to get messy and hungry while--FOOL, DO YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!!" Also, that ain't gonna fly in her next audition.

[@ShadyDoorags]

"Not as bad as other Disney remakes" This is hands down the worst one, imo. The acting, editing, pacing and CGI are awful. I can never lose myself because there's constantly something reminding me it's a movie, and a bad movie at that. At least Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast showed the actors had some talent, be it Jasmine's acting, Aladdin's dancing or Beast's singing. I see pretty much no talent on screen when I watch this. I can't even appreciate the martial arts because the editing is so jumpy.

[@danielscott5673]

well, i won't argue with jasmine's acting or aladdin's dancing skills, but beast's singing? uh, no. dan stevens can decently act (despite the beast's cgi is hideous and his characterization's pretty off) but he's not a good singer. the josh groban version of evermore is superior to dan stevens' version, at least josh groban is a very talented singer.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@danielscott5673]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 i have the 2009 mulan movie on blu-ray/dvd right now and i bought it before this awful disney remake premiered.

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@danielscott5673 and yet, i at least enjoyed that one, not like i did with Jungle Book but still I'll watch that over Aladdin, Cruella, Cinderella and others including this movie....just ugh

[@gamebawesome]

Felt like Doug was too soft on this one

[@oddcrafter1270]

"Let [women] be heroes, but also let them be villains, not just misunderstood heroes." THANK you. Seriously.

[@Sanquinity]

Welcome to modern female empowerment. "Women are perfect, can do no wrong, and if they do wrong are just misunderstood!"

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Lena Headey was pretty awesome villain in Dredd.

[@Astolfo2001]

And this is why anime is becoming more and more popular each day. Nanoha Takamachi, Medaka Kurokami, Shana, Hibiki Tachibana, Asuka, Saber, Sailor Moon, and Sakura Kinomoto are all more fleshed out characters than all of the characters of this dishonor to celluloid. And feminism as we know it in the West is not very popular in Japan.

[@arthas640]

@@Astolfo2001 western feminism is kind of a joke, its usually just reverse discrimination and thinks empowering women means attacking men rather then having women actually doing something empowering.

[@darkcylander]

why did you bracket the word women?

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

Animated Mulan: *beat her opponents by outsmarting them* Live Action Mulan: *beats her opponents with her convenient super soldier serum* Ugh...

[@AnonyBoiii]

Disney shills: bUt ThE nEw MuLaN eMpOwErS wOmEn!

[@Augustimentio7002]

It's kinda like the difference between Sam Wilson and John Walker in the Falcon and Winter Soldier series. One doesn't need a super serum, just his wits and skill, while the other pathetically needs it to be "better".

[@RedtailArt]

She beat them with her magic protagonist powers

[@James35142]

@Russell Jordan She beats them with Chinese midichlorians.

[@James35142]

@Russell Jordan No it's not, and that's the point.

[@kriticalitylives]

Gotta love that the lead actress playing Mulan had such inspiring dialogue like..... wait, did she even speak?

[@a.rustici1972]

She did, somehow.

[@Longshanks1690]

Yes, she said "Fuck Hong Kong." Oh, you meant in the movie? No idea.

[@meep9231]

You mean when she had inspiring dialogue like.....nothing? Yeah I feel empowered already

[@theberserker987]

It was a smart move on her part, otherwise her family would've ended up in the organ harvesting farms haha

[@evansclanspencer]

I'm here to chew gum and kick as and I'm all out of gum. If only.

[@DavidGonzales-rt7qd]

I think my sister put it best, “This Mulan’s only conflict, is she doesn’t have any problems!” This version is so wooden and has zero charisma!!! And personality is absent from this movie. The hero’s journey is about overcoming obstacles!! But she is perfect....

[@knightmare3706]

Okay fine those are fair point but the fights are........oh god..........the fights are even worse and don't make sense at all.

[@supremecalamitas342]

not to be a grammar nazi, but that comma was completely unnecessary.

[@MadMax-oo5oc]

Good point

[@theking8347]

They basically turned Mulan into an Asian Rey

[@DavidGonzales-rt7qd]

@@theking8347 even Rey had more personality. They at least showed her journey trying to learn about her past, and training with Luke. Then that all went away in Rise of Skywalker.

[@lexaurelio2446]

Aang showed more facial expressions during his scene dealing with Koh the Face Stealer than this Mulan actress did during this entire movie.

[@TheAlps36]

So did Mei through the whole series

[@theresidentevilafter]

Damn. That's a good burn.

[@IsaiahRichards692]

Abridged Sugaha Kirigaya had more emotions when Yui tortured her by stealing her face...

[@penguinman2233]

@Russell Jordan Holy shit that would’ve been amazing… TAKE NOTES SHYAMALAN!

[@kirara2516]

@Russell Jordan Holy crap not even the phoenix could dish out a burn that harsh. nice!

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

Ironic how Disney pretentiously keeps on trying to depict their female leads as strong women who oppose social conformity but in the process, they're making their characters way too restricted to be only playing the flawless type that barely even acts like a human.

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

and it also devalues the image of femininity, strength, and when a social issue actually needs to be opposed instead of it being absolutely nothing worth wasting time on. Like 2 people in your household saying you can't be an individual while society says, "actually no, you have to be an independent person giving us money," and in the meantime the whole of humanity is asking, "what the hell is this conformity thing you lot keep hocking at us?" When people look for problems everywhere there isn't instead of seeing and addressing the ones right in front of their faces, they make a big fuss over "issues" and slights that are utterly meaningless schlock while simultaneously neglecting the actual problem(s) actively hitting them over the head with a bunch of chairs.

[@PhoenixRising87]

It sucks because I love Mulan's character in the original; she wasn't a SUPER SERIOUS warrior woman. She was an awkward dork (just like Rapunzel and Anna after her), she had insecurities, she was creative, she was smart, and that's how she saved the day.

[@angolin9352]

It's because of representation. Characters can't be characters anymore (unless they're straight white men), they have to represent women/minorities/gays. Because these are representations and not characters, giving them any flaw is not giving a character a flaw, it's attacking an entire demographic. This is just another example of how identity politics is poisoning and ruining art. As much as the SJWs said, "Nobody's coming for your games/movies," that's exactly what they were coming for and it's been obvious for years.

[@alongcamesonic8542]

@Russell Jordan at least most of them do, don't forget the people who did it first and came up with this shitty cliche and got millions of dollars because of the nostalgia bait in these movies

[@patrickgogan3517]

@@angolin9352 it'll fail eventually people are tired of the crap

[@kuramakitsune16]

Disney message: To all women it is possible to be great in any society so long as you are perfect in any way, if you need to work at something don't bother, you are just a person bringing dishonor to yourself, your family and your cow.

[@alibrennan5977]

As if we don’t have that kind of pressure already

[@pound2loud]

Did you just call us a cow? Haha

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@kuramakitsune16]

@@pound2loud wow was that a typo. Almost didn't want to fix it. lol

[@breakofdawn5249]

No girl can relate to her because she is not like any girl, she is perfect with magic powers...

[@FishoD]

Animated Mulan : “Train hard and be awesome to earn respect of your fellow mates to save your country.” Live action Mulan : “Be born with superpowers and be an asshole to everybody.”

[@Marinealver]

ALL WOMEN ALL WONDERWOMEN!!! Sailor Moon doesn't seem so pervy now.

[@punkpinksugar]

Animated Mulan = Midoriya Live Action Mulan = Bakugo

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Animated Mulan: How China sees itself Live Action Mulan: How the rest of the world sees China

[@S.P.Q.R.117]

modern leftists in a nutshell.

[@BigrookieMER]

Live action Mulan : “Be born with superpowers and be an asshole to everybody.” That sounds like Captain Marvel.

[@AnonyBoiii]

Removes Mushu to make things “realistic” *Adds force powers, a witch and a Phoenix*

[@JoeChillton]

True dat

[@diegodubber2140]

Dishonor on them, dishonor on their cow, dishonor on their whole family.

[@ryanangelastro504]

@@diegodubber2140 who? Disney?

[@diegodubber2140]

@@ryanangelastro504 Dishonor on Disney, dishonor on Niki Caro, dishonor on their whole family of crappy live-action abominations.

[@d_fnanda]

makes you wonder why they couldn't just, make a mentor out of Mushu and let him teach her about Qi (kinda absorb the witch's role and the phoenix into one). But then we can't have a woman learning skills through the movie, can we 😑

[@sterling7]

Also, wouldn't it be interesting if Mulan's little "Neo bending over backwards to avoid the arrow" trick resulted in the soldier behind her taking an arrow?

[@Whomever209]

No no, you've got a point.

[@slayer0235]

@James Willen I was too slow. Got shafted on that one.

[@sdsign4229]

@James Willen Nice! Take a bow!

[@SilentReaperOFC]

T-t-th-th-t-t-t-that’s all folk!

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Why would one ride exactly behind her if she was not in front of the army and yet had none BEFORE her?

[@DonniedrakoE]

The whole point of Mulan is the fact that for a sizable time she was treated to be the equal of any man and used those opportunities to create real change. To literally give Mulan more power over others is too complete miss any potential gender message they were trying to have.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@A-Microwave]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 What you're doing is gonna make people NOT wanna watch it

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

@@A-Microwave You mean copy/pasting my comment and spreading the word about an obscure 2009 movie that actually BEAT Disney???🧐 😅Sure.🤠 HEY, while I'm at it... How 'bout you DON'T spread the word that "Upgrade" is the Venom Movie we actually deserved, or how Infinity Train is an underrated cartoon masterpiece that keeps getting shoved to the side by stupi- I mean "great" shows like Teen Titans Go??? 😏 In fact, I'm telling anyone who sees and experiences ANYTHING amazing to shut-up and not tell anyone about it because if they don't, that amazing thing WON'T actually found.😏 Thanks for that absolutely-not-moronic advice you've given me stranger I've never met before. Thank fricking You. 😏😉😆🤣

[@bharathram8848]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 I’m all about spreading word of this stuff but quit spamming. It doesn’t matter what you’re saying if you’re hijacking an existing thread with irrelevant information.

[@RevyaAeinsett]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 Telling people about something cool, and spamming the shit out of every single thread are too completely different things. It's annoying and obnoxious and is the perfect way to make people not want to watch it. Responding like an ass to someone pointing this out to you only makes your case worse.

[@darthizzle]

Doug makes a great point. In an effort to create a better role model, the message Disney sends is "the only way women can be as good as men is if theyre literally perfect"

[@Doran_Runeblite]

So true, and that is a horribly toxic message that will only hinder later generations of women who watch this crap at a young age.

[@jborrego2406]

Hey don’t forget to be an asshole her fellow teammates were super nice and she was just a jerk the whole time

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

I just hate it in general when an obviously special character has to act like their specialness is a flaw. I don't care how sexist your culture is, ANY country at war would recruit the woman with magical ass-kicking powers into the army. They'd have to be fucking stupid not to. The original Mulan, on the other hand, looked like a genuine failure until she actually got an opportunity for her talents to shine through. Shang was a better fighter than her, but he didn't have the brains or the daring to come up with taking the Huns out with an avalanche.

[@Web720]

Gee and I wonder who decides that change.

[@Indurok]

That's what they did to Star Wars. Might as well do that with everything else.

[@unluckychucky3979]

The horse from the 98’ Mulan had more personally than the entire 2020 mulan combined

[@123Yellowberry123]

It's SAD how true this is.

[@evanthecinemaguy9902]

*cow

[@orangeslash1667]

@@123Yellowberry123 Disney run out of ideas so their giving up.

[@austinreed7343]

The panda that was on screen for 10 seconds did

[@NorekXtreme]

I had that horse as toy and he was my favorite! :D

[@rithrius5384]

When you can say _"This is Mulan! The bad one!"_ and you're no longer referring to the sequel, you know it's a bad movie...

[@CountDooku0]

Didn't even know Mulan had a sequel. Guess that's how bad it was

[@abthedragon4921]

@@CountDooku0 personally I don't think Mulan 2 is that bad. No it's not nearly as good as the original by any stretch of the imagination but it has it's own merits.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I..... y-you can’t be serious. That movie was terrible

[@FF-tp7qs]

The Mulan sequel made Mushu into the worst character ever. Also somehow the film thinks having the Emperor's 3 daughters disobey the Emperor's will so they can be together with the first men they ever met in their entire lives is a good message. Political marriages for the benefit of a country of thousands of people = bad Ruining the relationship between the 2 countries and possibly causing a war so you can marry a man you have known for 3 days = good

[@ChromedDomes]

@@abthedragon4921 no.

[@alexlazzerly3677]

This honestly had the potential to be one of the best Disney Live action remakes. All that potential completely squandered.

[@Jesup1204]

It would have been easier to just adapt the original ballots. When I saw this movie I thought they were going in that direction given that in many of them establish Mulan was taught how to fight at a young age and was reckless. Even the rabbits line was a reference to a fable Mulan tells one of her army buddies after he learns the truth.

[@barbarabaker1457]

I would have loved to see the original Mushu. General idea: "you want to help the old man (who I have no interest in helping despite him taking me in when my parents died)? Why don't You go to war in my place." *Has to pretend to be her as a result when she does*

[@MouseGoat]

indeed, all the trailer stuff looked cool, but litraly eveyting else was slaped togather with ductape and glue, with zero care for what sens it made or moral it gave off.

[@barbarabaker1457]

I wouldn't even mind the random choice to use Chi, but perhaps Bother to understand how it works first?

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@Rack44-p4p]

"It's so lifeless." That really sums up this movie. The characters, what they took away, how the movie flows. It's so lifeless.

[@nahor88]

These remakes are lifeless compared to the originals cuz Disney doesn't have to try hard anymore to make money. When they were making the originals, they were still trying to build themselves up and get fans. The new Star Wars shows like Mandalorian and Bad Batch are good cuz Dave Filoni is at the helm, and he's committed to honoring George Lucas' legacy of bringing rich new content to devoted fans. The MCU shows so far have been good for the same reasons.

[@Rack44-p4p]

@@nahor88 Disney is afraid to go dark nowadays. Back then, movies like Lady and the Tramp, Pinocchio, The Fox and the Hound, there were some scenes that would never be seen in a modern-day Disney movie. Disney is losing sight of who they are. Shows like The Mandalorian, and Star Wars Bad Batch are really great because of good story and characters that were made with heart.

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

it isn't even a flowing movie. it is a stagnant pool catering to the chinese government. funny enough, CHINA BANNED THE 2020 MULAN MOVIE. So in the end all of disney's rampant simping to the chinese government only made them display how low they would sink and stay sunk even if in the end it was all a waste of time and energy to do so.

[@Rack44-p4p]

@@ObieDobieZoomer I'm actually curious if anyone can save Disney. Like someone new with good storytelling and creative ideas.

[@Rack44-p4p]

@Russell Jordan I don't know. One would think that DreamWorks likes to keep their hands clean.

[@RedtailArt]

Here's something interesting: in the original Mulan legend, Mulan's family was completely supportive of her, making the original legend more progressive than any modern version of the story

[@burndemon100]

well yeah and the story last for like 30year of war and battle and they find she is a woman when they offer her a wife, and her father die while she is away.

[@GBmovieluv]

Wasn't the story about her taking her brother's place in war? Either way I wonder if I can find it to read

[@ashleywang8767]

@@GBmovieluv in the original song "Mulan's father has no full-grown son and Mulan has no older brothers," and the army called for her father. So she took her father's place because she had no older brothers that would be old enough to fight.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

Thank you for pointing this out.

[@kaijukid1443]

Talk about irony

[@Big-Image]

Pissed off Mulan fans: Was that you trying to be sexist or racist!? Modern Disney: Whatever pisses you off more

[@paulkuchnicki6404]

Is there seriously no liquer in here?!?

[@a_guy_who_exists]

haha! Clever reference

[@spinlok3943]

That was Disney trying NOT to be sexist or racist and ironically ending up being ten times more offensive.

[@talkingfez1265]

ANGEL DUST!!!!!

[@LucianCanad]

I'm morally obligated to like your comment.

[@BountyHunter-ep8jk]

To quote Gamora: “You’re despicable, dishonorable, FAITHLESS!”

[@sarcasticfanstic]

I got a question/quote, What is Gamora?

[@BountyHunter-ep8jk]

@@sarcasticfanstic I’ve got one better: Who’s Gamora?

[@robbieking4070]

@@BountyHunter-ep8jk I’ve got a better one, Why is Gamora?

[@chieffridge5588]

@@robbieking4070 but the most important. How is Gamora?

[@Derpy_Bird427]

@@chieffridge5588 i've got one... Where is Gamora?

[@Deathshead1923]

The thing is that if the Chinese wanted to watch a Mulan movie they’d simply watch a homegrown film instead. So this soulless exercise in greed was futile in the end.

[@johnnysparkle]

Heck the Chinese did a Mulan movie in 2009

[@philmp6]

Funny you say that, I heard the film actually didn't get much love from the country

[@Deathshead1923]

​@@philmp6 Considering that Disney evidently thought that replacing honest-to-goodness character development and ingenuity "she's awesome because Ancient Chinese Magic" I'm not surprised. The New Mulan is basically a Mary Sue story on the big screen.

[@dragongirl7978]

@@Deathshead1923 Especially since that is absolutely not how ancient Chinese magic works. 🤦

[@Deathshead1923]

@@dragongirl7978 Yeah. It's like one of the writers was an anime fan and decided to put a thin veneer of "Chinese-ness" on Naruto's Ninjitsu magic.

[@beauvoirferril]

This Mulan review was unironically more entertaining than the movie itself. And the Eddie Murphy impressions were *on point.* 👌

[@jakew6162]

Malcom made the phoenix super funny

[@traviswhitfield8045]

Be honest. This movie was way better than Mulan 2.

[@LV426Resident]

@@traviswhitfield8045Yes but that’s not impressive

[@capitanspoiler7393]

when her father shouted "YOU! are the daughter" he sounded like that chinese dad from a family guy cutaway "You doctor yet? Talk to me when you doctor!"

[@RikuKh2]

@@josephnewsome2935 Welcome to the family

[@dereklopez9060]

Omg!!! Lmao!!!

[@aienma6660]

Baby Girl: *crying that daddy yelled*

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

I was thinking more will smith in After Earth being all, "DENIED! SIT DOWN!"

[@capitanspoiler7393]

@@ObieDobieZoomer never watched that shitstain of a movie, i tend to avoid any movie where that dumb kid has a role

[@jekblom123]

"chi" isn't even supposed to work like that. Chi is supposed to be your stamina and will power. Having "good chi" wouldn't mean you have a lot of talents and you're awesome at everything, it just means you have a lot of energy.

[@dragongirl89115]

Chi is literally just the energy flow of the body. Having good chi doesn't give someone the ability to turn into a bird or be a weapons expert, it would just help you be healthier.

[@ninjanibba4259]

Heck, even Iron Fist did this better

[@azoth6641]

Clearly, Disney thought "chi" (or "qi" in Mandarin) is just Chinese for "the Force". IIRC, chi permeates across nature and all living beings, including humans. Though optional, at best people can learn to harness it (e.g., tai chi and other forms of martial arts), use its flow across nature for their benefit (e.g., feng shui), or repair any irregularity in the body's chi system (e.g., acupuncture, moxibustion, and taking certain natural medicine).

[@anafu-sankanashi8933]

@@azoth6641 sooooo in simple terms 'good chi' is a really good immune system and a healthy body.

[@azoth6641]

@@anafu-sankanashi8933 At least in practical application. The martial use of chi, or _neigong,_ typically fall under _xianxia,_ a more fantastical subgenre of _wuxia_ (martial fantasy) rooted in Chinese mythology, folk religion, and medicinal theory, with smatterings of Chinese Buddhism and Taoism (though neigong is also not unheard of in the more grounded wuxia works).

[@Goddamnitiwantaname]

Mulan was so overpowered, I expected Nick Fury to show up in credits, asking her to join the Avengers.

[@melissalayson7275]

Even the Avengers showed more emotion and had flaws compared with remake Mulan. Don't ever compare the Avengers to remake Mulan again. Wow I didn't expect so many likes to this comment. Thank you.

[@WisteriaDrake]

It's even worse when you consider that eastern culture favors the "rise of the hero" archetype, where a hero undergoes intense training and a long, hard journey to become strong. Think of Goku from Dragonball Z or Kenichi from History's Strongest Disciple. Starting out strong is antithetical to that, so you can see this Mulan as being the villain in that regard.

[@joshfish2]

"Yo Mulan, what if I were to tell you there's something bigger out there, outsida China! Did you think you were the only overpowered Mary Sue in this world girl? You'll love to meet Captain Marvel!"

[@JustADannyThing]

@@WisteriaDrake hero’s are made not born

[@darkreflection9087]

@@joshfish2 at least Captain Marvel showed emotion and had flaws having flaws make us who we are no one is perfect Disney needs to remember this

[@Lady_Blade_WarAngel]

Nostalgia Critic: That’s like taking Hellfire and replacing it with “Trouble with the fireplace” Me: Don’t give them ideas for an inevitable Live Action Hunchback of Notre Dame. Please? 😭

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I cannot even imagine how that movie would even turn out. That was risqué when it came out- today??? Disney? They faint at the idea of an ungloved hand.

[@leonk9168]

Hunchback of Notre Dame main is male, they wont do it

[@eclecticwitch4515]

I had flashbacks to the Lion King Remake where they replaced Be Prepared with some slam poetry

[@kyuokuo]

@@leonk9168 They can always rule 63 it. They would be even more progressive by doing so! They would also need to cast a beautiful woman and not an ugly has been hunchback deformed THING, but hey! That's just how the cookie crumbles.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

@Gabriel Lopez de Azua that too.

[@MegaPlayerXxX]

I and my classmates back in high school prepared a small amateur thater for kids. We were doing an adaptation of Mulan from Disney. Now, we were a technical school, so none of us were actors, nor were we some heavy poetry readers and such. We pretty much just watched the movie scene by scene, debated on how to put it into theater version with some comedy for kids and then moved on. For example there was that moment when Shang walks by his soldiers, examining them, telling them they will train real hard and such, but we put in a small slapstick to make little ones laugh more. So Shang had a sheated sword on hip and as he walked by, it swung up with every step, hitting every soldier in the crotch. All soldiers were reacting to pain in some comical way, just Mulan did not react at all. All without Shang noticing of course. XD Now... we had to all that and had almost no money to speak of. Instead of cannons we used those tiny firework rockets that make a ton of noise and die out without explosion. Armors were mostly just folded black paper that held together with some strings, helmets were just carton, swords were mostly wooden with only exception being mine since I had a replica at home. I played Chien-Po, being the fattest in class. And I got an email from High School, saying that our adaptation was better than the actual remake with I don't even want think how big budget and that everyone who has seen them agrees. Imagine how bad you gotta make it if a bunch of high school kids with no acting experience nor talent make a better thing than you with millions of dollars and professional staff and effects.

[@ghostly720gaming6]

Comedy right there

[@adaptorperish1322]

Nice story! No surprise there, to be honest, it was even mostly boring to look at, while mainland China’s nature can be absolutely gorgeous and picturesque. I bet your Mulan was a much better actress too.

[@sirnightmare4881]

That honestly sounds more fun to watch

[@eclecticwitch4515]

thats because you put actual time and effort into it and didn't just shit onto a piece if paper and smudge it on my monitor

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I desire to witness this.

[@sorenthefilmbrony]

That's three. THREE times you critiqued this movie in the span of 1 year. *laughs like the Count, lightning strikes*

[@sarcasticfanstic]

One shitty movie Hahaha Two shitty movie Hahaha Three shi Ha hell no I'm done

[@wyatt130]

**1** ah ah ah **2** ah ah ah **3** ah ah ah

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

I think that shows just how much this thing stuck with him What shocked me the most just from watching this review (And not having seen the movie) is just how much charm was lost through the simple act of removing Mushu, I mean I was always hit and miss on the character personally but damn did this movie need him

[@merriquelynn]

@@DarkKnightofAnime Mushu was more important than we gave him credit for. I refuse to watch the movie because of where it was filmed and other things. But almost all the reviews have this similar vibe of: my goth, what have you done to her!

[@astrowolvez]

I don’t blame him.

[@redwarriorstudios6077]

The whole chi thing is better explained in Kung Fu Panda. Chi is energy

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

Not just that, it's the energy in all living things.

[@thattheatrenerd1418]

Hell it seems more like a backwards version of the force in this film.

[@epicmickeyproductions3291]

@Russell Jordan yeah I agree

[@Lockles-]

"The male hare has heavy front paws. The female hare tends to squint. But when they are running side-by-side close to the ground, who can tell me which is male or female?" Is a quote from the original Ballad of Mulan. It's her response to her fellow soldiers, when after 12 years of campaigning they finally find out she was a woman all this time. That's why that bit about the two rabbit at the start was added.

[@Lockles-]

In the original song, she did have a sister and a brother.... They didn't "add" a sister in the remake, they forgot her in the original. Though the bit about the spider is just a bunch of nonse to keep the kids entertained.

[@Alyssa-t]

The fact that he says “Mulan the bad one” and not refer to Mulan 2 is impressive

[@axelnilsson5124]

I actually thought that he was going to mention mulan 2 after saying that and is like “not that one, that one”

[@kenethendo]

It's a shame that 'Mulan - the bad one' is no longer specific enough.

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

@@kenethendo it's even more of a shame that we are quickly running out of classic disney movies we can't apply that phrase to...

[@Marinealver]

Can't wait for Mulan 34

[@Kozu_the_Tiger]

Mulan 2 is a masterpiece compared to this garbage

[@101Draico]

Goku: That’s not how Chi works... I mean I used to turn into a monkey but that was biology what’s your excuse?

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

Vegeta: "No no, that's Ki, not Chi. Besides, your wife has twice the Chi that Mulan has"

[@OliverTCrowe]

@@insertclevernamehere1186 This needs so many more likes. 10/10 comment there.

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

@@OliverTCrowe Why thank you (tips hat)

[@slayer0235]

I read that in DBZA Goku's voice. ^_^;

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I love all of you.

[@norahbooth6066]

Disney CEOs “Let’s get back to business!” To demean Mulan... Me: oh no....

[@matthewbuckley7757]

Did it sent me a bad remake when I ask for a good one.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@@matthewbuckley7757 Your a bad and dispicable company. And you haven’t got a clue.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@alextelson4416]

I need this song RIGHT THE FUCK NOW

[@soggywennie283]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 bruh why do I see you in the other comments, we get it just post it on a regular comment, not the reply section

[@karekarenohay4432]

"I'm Mulan" "Mulan who?" "Mulan Skywalker".

[@JoeChillton]

Keep those deleted scenes in the Disney Vault.

[@legoguy004davidson6]

Just don’t karekare nohay just don’t

[@Mansa216]

No no no no hell no no

[@Christopher_TG]

At least Rey had a personality. She would get upset at injustice, excited at learning her abilities, devastated at the loss of people she cared for, and proud of the cause for which she fought. Even though she was a bit of a Mary Sue, she was an enjoyable character and Daisy Ridley did a great job bringing that character to life. This Mulan is about as interesting as a McDonald's cheeseburger. It's something, but it's pretty bland and forgettable.

[@remixchild]

No Rey had the force What mulans excuse?

[@wolfgangmitchell9213]

In the original legend, Mulan had a younger brother who was still a child when she left her home. I just wished they would have brought that part instead of forcing in sister who's about almost the same age.

[@blueteller]

First time I hear of this, I thought she was an only child??

[@shanedaley6236]

If I remember correctly they did say they would do a more traditional movie based more on the legend taking out the music and magic and that was what originally made me excited for this that they would actually do something different from the original

[@knightmare3706]

@@shanedaley6236 and as we all figured out, was a freaking lie. They took away any element that made Mulan, Mulan and took away Mushu cause magic ain't a thing........and put in their own magic that help Mulan be "the bestest EVAH"

[@lunerblade13]

Was “little brother” from the animated movie intended to reference that same brother or was that just a coincidence?

[@cross172]

“Am I out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong.” -Principle Skinner

[@J1283-s1k]

>Disney Skinner sees any attempt to diverge from Disney's new normal of portraying the female leads to be perfect and unchangeable right from the outset, unable to grow and lacking any need to have to learn across what should be their 'arc' of the movie, which flies in the face of how their cartoon counterparts found themselves required to do exactly that and more, on their individual journeys, most of which occurred at least 20 years ago in original pieces of cinema that stood proud in their uniqueness of design, completely lacking any need for a reboot. 'Pathetic.'

[@miguelcastillo3723]

"You're out of touch, You're out of time!"

[@yangxiaolong7779]

NOSTALGIA CRITICS A BADASS HES HIP WITH THE KIDS

[@GothLady1987]

@@J1283-s1k Disney literally has nothing better to offer anymore. They took the success of "The Jungle Book" and assumed everything they remade would do as well. Remakes rarely do. I only ever saw 'Beauty and the Beast' and hated it. I really wish they would leave well enough alone.

[@Underworlder5]

@@GothLady1987 they are just relying on brand recognition and nostalgia at this point. basically doing everything they can to challenge the "too big to fail" viewpoint

[@gabbygabs8271]

"Disney: We're Not Behind, You're Just Too Fast!" Wiser words were never spoken.

[@acequeenofthedeck8431]

That's me in math istg XD-

[@gabbygabs8271]

@@acequeenofthedeck8431 lol same

[@brandon9666]

@@suzygirl1843 Wait did they make Ariel black?

[@tencents6]

@@suzygirl1843 OH MY GOSH!!!!! YOU'RE E RIGHT!!!!! Tiana was already progressive giving her race and the time period she was born in. She was already a role model for little girls. Just reboot that and keep Ariel white. Then again, if they did reboot The Princess and The Frog, they probably would have found a way to screw that up, too.

[@moottoriturpa7257]

Agreed.

[@martinasera825]

I wouldn’t mind if this Mulan was a day dreamer instead of a clumsy girl. We would see these early perfect Mary Sue scenes as daydreaming before reality hits. Oh that would be hilarious.

[@mikemagnus9447]

That would have been perfect!

[@Overseer2579]

But sadly, to Disney, it wouldn’t seem realistic enough

[@cross172]

“What man will want to marry a girl who flips around on rooftops?” All of them. All of the men.

[@captainbirch2.079]

Yup

[@slayer0235]

*raises both hands*

[@ZatchZXman]

Real men. Not fake men who cry dinner is not ready.

[@penny1545]

Spider-Man: Screw M.J! She is pathetic compared to Mulan!

[@tyberzann101]

a woman who can help me clean the gutters, take down christmas lights and get frisbees and baseballs off the roof safely WITHOUT a ladder?! nah ill pass

[@WaterxDragon35]

This Mulan was so unfaithful to the original that they should've just called it MooLAN and made it about cows running tech support.

[@garreonlefay6703]

It would probably have been a better movie

[@shadowldrago]

If only because of the sheer absurdity of that premise, I want to watch that.

[@jboss0666]

Joke all you want about that idea, I would watch that. Sounds like an actual fun movie

[@taylothysmith1202]

I would actually watch that unlike this movie

[@Alejandroigarabide]

MUSHU: Dishonor on you!! Dishonor on your tech support cows!!!

[@kingofmonsters14]

the more insulting part is how the writer thinks Chi works. even Dragon Ball understood it better, and they have *bleep*ing laser blasts!

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@cjtherandomizer7638]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 ok, you have posted this reply everywhere. I think it's time to stop, we get your point

[@cjtherandomizer7638]

The way chi was handled in Dragon Ball was really just how much energy someone had, not chi determines how op you are (DB did do something similar to this but you had to earn it most of time)

[@kingofmonsters14]

@@cjtherandomizer7638 yeah, but that's the thing: EVERYONE HAD IT!! Goku, Freeza, Cell, Bulma, Superman, they all have it. it's just some people were able to... er, weaponize it.

[@millerkarageanes1562]

@@cjtherandomizer7638 don’t forget Kung fu panda 3 take on chi

[@northwindkey]

The "dated, not progressive enough" Animated film: Mulan is an inspiring character who overcomes flaws thus teaching everyone watching regardless of gender, age, color, or creed that they are strong and can overcome their weaknesses. The "modern feminist" live action film: Mulan is a perfect flawless super-being who literally nobody could relate to or learn from. And in particular presents a highly toxic role model for young girls by telling them they have to be perfect and never feel any emotion.

[@VMan29397]

Not feminist its feministic pandering big difference

[@Astolfo2001]

Feminism: Not even once.

[@cheyblake2475]

What do you mean don't show any emotion?!

[@northwindkey]

@@cheyblake2475 Notice all these modern live action Disney remake heroines have the same stoic, blank face, shut down any emotions vibe? Like compare OG Cinderella to remake Cinderella. OG Cinderella got angry, sad, she had emotions. Remake Cinderella is literally smiling during the entire film and never once lets herself be sad or angry. In a way, it's oddly enough forcing old toxic masculine tropes... onto women. Like the "stoic guy who says emotion is for the weak" is now a trope applied to female characters. When it's a trope that shouldn't apply to anyone. Humans, regardless of gender, have emotions. Characters should reflect that.

[@HlootooThunderhammer]

Ironically, this is the same kind of stereotypes guys were/are given in media. What’s mocked on men is praised in women….

[@axelsmith4722]

That character isn't Mulan. She's called Chi Ting.

[@quickman2663]

In the sequel she meets het Japanese counterpart, Fuku Yu.

[@superstarultra28]

Very punny, dude.

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

I think you mean CH1-T1N9.

[@FatherKisame]

I see u

[@Deconstruction_Administrator]

@@ObieDobieZoomer No, that's the mass-produced version. She's the alpha-model prototype of the Chi-Ting project. You can tell because they hadn't yet implemented facial movement beyond talking.

[@joelyap2538]

What makes the revealing scene even worse, is that the movie actually stated that lying and deceit would result in expulsion and not death. Meaning, that in terms of tension building, she was never in danger with her reveal.

[@tsartomato]

oh look an anglo saxon knows nothing about world west of germany

[@isaacandluxo5463]

That “DISGRACE ON YOUR COW” edit was literally funnier than this entire movie. Cause it actually got me to laugh once

[@aztapsii3260]

Don't let this comment distract you from the fact that democracy has proven itself to be a complete and utter failure. Throughout history, democracy has ruined thousands of lives due to it's corruptible nature. Democracy may pretend to be a fair and equal system of government but that is all a lie. Look at some of the democratic nations of the world. Look at the USA, a tyrannical and unstable nation with a population that has been divided due to stupid political parties. Look at North Korea, officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, do I even have to explain how democracy has failed there? What about Libya? Libya tried to be a fair and equal nation under democracy, and dissolved into a chaotic mess. The system of democracy is an evil thing and all members of a Senate/Parliament/Congress should be executed for irreversibly fucking up the Planet.

[@justafan9399]

@@aztapsii3260 Understandable, have a nice day.

[@enry2337]

@@aztapsii3260 The fact that you put "North Korea" and "democracy" in the same sentence honestly says it all.

[@aidencooke6709]

I was laughing at how bad the movie was.

[@Nickle_King]

"I know there were problems with these women (the original princess lineup) but I could tell them apart!" Nostalgia Critic doesn't always get it right, but this line is gold. Screw anyone who thinks these remakes are empowering. You're only keeping people down further.

[@yamiakko4257]

The "I rather be executed" part was so bad, I actually bursted out laughing the first time I saw it.

[@IsaiahRichards692]

That wasn’t actually in the script, she just wished to be put out of her misery!

[@tamajongtamajongphilip3894]

I don't think you should mock their manner of speaking. It might have been difficult for the actors to speak in English. I think they should have spoken in their own language, and let it be translated as text on screen. Thus they would have spoken more fluidly and naturally. It felt very strange and wrong (unrealistic) to hear Mulan trying to mimick an American accent in a diiferent part of the film. I empathise with the actors for making the effort to speak in English.

[@tamhuy10]

@@tamajongtamajongphilip3894 she is apparently american nationality, spent years in the states

[@domidium]

I think that even without the original Mulan and the other remakes, this movie would still fall flat. Still has wooden acting, superfluous characters, and an incredibly convoluted and misguided attempted female empowerment message.

[@andrewlatourette428]

True, but at least the American audiences who would've never heard of this story without the original would've been far less angry about the whole thing.

[@domidium]

@@andrewlatourette428 Yeah. Still a subpar movie though...

[@andrewlatourette428]

@@domidium From my point of view it'd have been about the same as Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

[@domidium]

@@andrewlatourette428 ...I should check out that first live action adaptation sometime. See how it compares...

[@domidium]

@Jared Jams Not surprising.

[@Lazyguy143]

The whole chi concept was my biggest gripe with this movie. Instead of her realistically closing the gap with other soilders despite being a woman, it seems like she's only good because she has superpowers which not only undermines her accomplishments but makes her seem like an exception instead of normal.

[@jlogan2228]

Right one of the best parts of the original was she conquered the arrow challenge by using her creativity but even then she STILL had to struggle and almost fell. It was so well done that you felt like she really did have the squadron rooting for her and when she throws down the arrow and just sits there triumphantly it still is iconic

[@undertakernumberone1]

Also the message of the movie - "Either you're a super speshul awesome Mary Sue like Mulan and can do everything. Or you're her sister and should be happy that you're getting married off. No piss off little sister!"

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Honestly, the whole “More Realism, Less Magic” excuse never really made sense to me. The only magic I remember from the original movie was Mushu and her ghost ancestors. And the latter could technically not be magic in my opinion. But then they just do a hypocrisy and give her “Chi” which basically makes her a natural born super soldier. So what was the point of taking the magical elements out? Edit: Oh, Yeah, I completely forgot to mention of the completely dumbass move that in their “Realistic movie” they put in a shap shifting witch (who looks like a Chinese Rita repulsa) and a Fucking Phoenix!?

[@undertakernumberone1]

@@zachscarbrough2727 yeah. They replace that little magic with more magic and then claim "more grounded! blablabla"

[@Demonic_Culture_Nut]

@@zachscarbrough2727 Not just a Fucking Phoenix, but a Fucking Western Phoenix. They didn't even make it a Fucking Eastern Phoenix.

[@Derah_OG]

I've said this in other Live Action Mulan Reviews, and I'll say it here again: The biggest problem I had with this movie, is that it completely ruins the feminist and empowering message of the original, with a garbage message. In the original movie, Mulan was weak, she was clumsy, she was incompetent, she was afraid, lost, and confused. But so were all the other recruits, showing that men and women are equals, they share the same strengths and the same weaknesses. And it was only through determination, hard work, and effort, that both she and the other cadets, went from complete failures to skilled warriors in their own right. The message for any little girl watching it being a clear "See girls? if you set your mind to it, you can accomplish anything that the boys can do too" In the remake however, Mulan is a fucking superhero from childhood, able to bend the laws of physics to her will, and capable of superhuman feats nobody else can make. She doesn't earn any of her skill, she's just born with it. Which turns the message instead into "See little girls? if you are born with superpowers, you can accomplish anything! And if you don't? well, off to the kitchen with you, where you belong". And this is reinforced with the introduction of the completely pointless character of Mulan's Sister. She doesn't have any powers, so what's her role in the story? Be a glorified baby-making machine and conform to the gender norms. You're either born a superhero, or you're just a kitchen accessory. THAT is the message of this movie. This is a very misogynistic movie that has the balls to try to pretend its feminist.

[@Derah_OG]

@@ichijofestival2576 I never argued that she was. Disney adaptations are very loosely based off of the original. Hercules has next to nothing to do with the actual greek Heracles. I'm just saying, the original animated movie had an actual positive message of equality for the girls in the audience. This abomination on the other hand is extremely misogynist, while having the massive brass balls to pretend that its feminist.

[@Sanquinity]

@@Derah_OG If only the actual feminists would see it this way. They tend to just go "Female stronger/better than male! Female empowerment!" Without looking at any of the context or deeper (implied) meanings. I hate how "bitchy Mary Sue" has become the icon of female empowerment these days, as if the Mary Sue trope isn't even a thing. And a bad thing at that.

[@VMan29397]

@@Sanquinity Not all feminists are like that It's that with every group there are those within it that take everything to an extreme level and often do more harm than good

[@Sanquinity]

@@VMan29397 You're right I generalized too much there. But the fact remains that the less-than-majority of feminists that ARE like that, have a ton of power these days. Multi million dollar companies, TV networks, celebrities, schools, etc have all been persuaded by them to some extend. And they also LOVE invading fandoms/groups/etc under the pretense that they're fans, then bitch and moan about how the subject is until it gets changed to their liking. Which in turn drives away actual fans. Like I said, it's not the majority. But it's still a large part of feminists with a lot of influence.

[@rogue7723]

I wish I could give you a _1,000 likes_ for this comment. 🙂

[@Sammmmmmmm617]

"Let's get down to business, to kill Mulan." - Disney

[@Sammmmmmmm617]

@Carlos Lopez-Ortega Pffffffff. Nice joke

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

Stupid mouse

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

@Darth Dämon -The Shadow Of Death- I am not scum, I rule the scum

[@brandonsanchez8197]

What do they do with that """""""earned money""""""" anyway?

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@heckleyeah399]

Growing up, I looked up to characters like Mulan and Tiana for their ability to overcome their flaws and struggles. This mulan is so uninspirational.

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

I wouldn't even give them the credit that it had anything inspiring about it in the film to be weighed down by how utterly lacking in anything inspirational they made her. the actress literally refused to show ANY emotion "because it made her look prettier".

[@gingergoddess8953]

My sis after watching the movie: "Ugh, Mulan is so unrelatable now because she's a superhero." Me: "Nawh, even superheroes have weaknesses...and feelings." Mulan 2020 is straight Mary Sue

[@tsartomato]

"relatable" oh yes because we need yanks to ruin zhonghua legends even more

[@fireironthesecond2909]

Isn’t it sad how many times I have heard a character be called a Mary Sue 🤦‍♂️

[@jamieharris1256]

I hate the term Mary sue it's such a lazy criticism of a character that criminally over used. That being said Mulan 2020 is the definition of Mary sue

[@jacob4920]

@@jamieharris1256 Disney is entirely at fault for that term being overused today. Look at EVERY SINGLE MOVIE they have made in the past three years. And there you go. The word is not the problem. The people abusing said word are the actual problem.

[@Marinealver]

Don't you mean Marry Su? I'll see myself out.

[@Yutah1981]

I love one more thing in the animation that's missing here. So, Mulan wins Li Shang's arrow challenge not because she's miraculously head and shoulders above all men and can climb the post with weights on her wrists when no one else can, but because she found out how to turn the obstacle into her asset. And then she does exactly the same in the avalanche scene. And when she loses her sword, in the fan scene. It's logical and it's built up to, it feels earned and doesn't feel like a fluke, because she'd always had to learn how to compensate for her weaknesses and work with what she's got. Because, being a woman raised in the society when she couldn't do sports and in a wealthy enough family that she didn't have to do a lot of hard physical work, when she has to compete against men who are encouraged to be fit, she is naturally the last in everything in the beginning, as you'd expect - not magically stronger than all of them. And while women tend to be more agile and coordinated, we are shown that Mulan was clumsy, so she didn't even have this advantage. So it feels realistic that she was behind everyone else. And you can see how overcoming this helps her think fast in such situations rather than panicking when she loses her strength which she never had to begin with.

[@cow1816]

If it wasn't for the begining song, I would have totally forgotten that they remade Lady and the Tramp.

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Wow, I honestly completely forgot about that.

[@kesslerine]

They're remaking everything!

[@hardcoresmoke2122]

Literally same. Didn't know that existed tbh 🤣🤣🤣

[@blackfox1320]

Sadly, that's one of the better ones.

[@someone-rs4zg]

To be honest, I didn't even know they made a remake of that.

[@justasharkonland4122]

Disney: “Lets remove all the singing cause songs aren't a part of war ” Meanwhile in any Napoleonic army...

[@martusiagrziw]

*any army

[@undertakernumberone1]

@@martusiagrziw *looks at Tolkien a WWI Vet having the Rohirrim literally sing as they charge into battle and all the war songs written by veterans. Union troops singing "John Brown's body" and so on' Nah people would never sing in a war. They'd also never joke to release stress!

[@martusiagrziw]

@@undertakernumberone1 *looks at soldiers of any army that in free time sings happy/dirty songs, and so on :)

[@aleksabanjevic8316]

Aren't wor songs a whole thing?

[@prossnip42]

There are literally entire youtube channels solely dedicated to posting war songs and hymns like what are they even talking about?

[@Achillez098]

Dear Disney, and the writers who wrote the plot and script... "YOU'RE THE SADDEST BUNCH, I'VE EVER MET..."

[@AliciaNyblade]

30:16-30:50--THANK YOU! This sums up the problems with how modern Disney female characters are written. Disney is so afraid of playing into old stereotypes they've gone to the complete opposite extreme instead of just creating strong leading ladies. Esmeralda, for instance, is a great example of a strong character who happens to be a woman without winking her personality or femininity at the audience every five minutes. Get back to gals like her, Disney, for the love of the gods!

[@AndroxineVortex]

Disney: Let's take out Mushu to make a more realistic film. Also Disney: Shape shifting Sorceress.

[@tsartomato]

disney: instead of outright stealing foreign property castrating it adding 20 clowns inside and rewriting the ending, let's for the first time do at least an attempt to pander to the actual "owners" of that property yanks: boooo where's my clowns i want clowns. and farts

[@Fordo007]

@@tsartomato Except the Chinese seem to have prefered the original as it actually ended up being less offensive culturally than this one. This one had SOOOOOOOOO many anachronisms and misunderstanding of Chinese culture... Chi, the phoenix, etc... the original didn't make those mistakes as it didn't try to go that deep. The original was a Disney film set in China. Just like Snow White was a Disney film set in Germany. There is aesthetics and style from the culture... but nothing really concrete. The new one TRIED to be a Chinese film done by Disney... but it ended up like a Snow White trying to be German where glaringly obvious mistakes are all over like people wearing pickelhaube hundreds of years before invention, a horrible misunderstanding of the Holy Roman Empire and the Electorate, and other stuff. If you are going to try and pander do it right. This was the laziest pandering I've seen as almost nothing was correct.

[@tsartomato]

@@Fordo007 someone living in yankeestan is not chinese

[@Fordo007]

@@tsartomato I know, the Chinese people I've seen interviewed and who give their thoughts online are living in China. I'm sure there are Chinese people who liked the new movie more. But going by polls and other data, the old one is prefered over this one. And as someone who is pretty angry about historical inaccuracies(like Braveheart, ughhhh... and the Patriot, ughhhhh) I can understand why a lot of Chinese people would find this film irritating by how much wrong stuff is in it that the most basic level of study would've revealed.

[@tsartomato]

@@Fordo007 oh yes and i saw people claiming that the moon is holographic projection by nasa because lizard people nice data

[@adamb5147]

Did anyone else pick up on the fact that the thing that saved her life was pretending to be a man. The leather chest thing saved her when the dagger was thrown at her.

[@undertakernumberone1]

The thing that saved her life was FUCKING ARMOUR THAT FOR ONE SCENE DID IT'S JOB! THe biggest gag is. Had thearmour "Shown off that she's a woman" the complaints would've been "BOOB ARMOUR!!!1!!!" or something similar.

[@adamb5147]

@@undertakernumberone1 Yeah it helped her be flat chested and helped looking like a man, It's irony that the film is pushing hard for the feminist agenda, but what saved her is pretending to be a man.

[@CodeeXD]

Which she then immediately rips off for no reason

[@geardog24]

"I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's not how chi works." Anime Logic 101

[@motor4X4kombat]

i think nen could do that.

[@MouseGoat]

Her being able to transform is one of the few cool things about this movie, and wrong portrayal of chi is for sure one of the last things this pile of shit film need worry about. XD At least make the freaking characters work and not sound batshit insane with morals that only exist in radical feminist minds. "I am the farter, you are the dougher" what reason on earth would he say that, when its 180% of everyting else.... its just binge a dick for being a dick sake. " oh, ok what problems do they have?" -____- yes... real horible, much tragic such woman

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@sketchygetchey8299]

Chi=Midiclorians

[@oliverdelica2289]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 I did

[@Lisztomaniac1022]

"I dont like sand. Its coarse and rough and gets everywhere." This quote is a masterpiece compared to the dialogue Mulan says in this movie.

[@Overseer2579]

And at least Attack of the Clones was infinitely more visually, plot-wise, and thematically original in comparison, regardless of whether you loved it or hated it

[@halohybrid5496]

As soon as the concept of chi (energy) was mentioned, the remake was already shooting itself in the foot. They kinda took away her character development that made her relatable.

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

I hate movies with " strong female characters". I love movies with strong characters that happen to be women. Yes, there is a difference.

[@andyz2861]

If you haven’t seen Alita Battle Angel, do. It’s probably the only movie with the latter that’s come out in years.

[@WasatchWind]

I hope that we'll get one of the latter on screen in the coming years - Vin, from the Mistborn series. She is one of the best characters I've ever seen in fiction.

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@andyz2861 as someone who knew nothing about the character going in, i loved the movie and she became one of my favorite female characters that year

[@canadianmale7610]

Furiosa

[@DHynes5]

Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo (The Bride), Imperator Furiosa, Mildred Hayes from Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri and Hit-Girl are all examples of strong characters that happen to be women

[@tgiacin435]

I wouldn’t have mind Mulan practicing fighting as a kid only to have it be revealed that her backyard stick play is nothing like the training soldiers go through.

[@abelmantor7557]

Writers: So what did you think of the movie? Me: Pack up. Go home. You're through.

[@Hufflepuffozian]

How can fans get through to you?

[@geardog24]

Mulan 1998: I'll make a man out of you Mulan 2020: The Last Jedibender

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

Pretty much.

[@redshamrock5670]

Damn straight.

[@Rolf97]

For some reason that made me laugh a lot harder than I should have

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@monicaaboites5053]

Mulan 2020: Rey’s twin sister..

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Listen i understand most main women's characters are trying to be the women power trait recently but does that have to be the only trait she has to have?

[@nigermessor7]

Makes them just infuriatingly perfect, boring and unrelatable. Way to go Disney

[@Samwise_Ass]

A very good point

[@Pigmcginnyrig]

Mtn dee

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293]

They're Mary Sue's

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293]

@@nigermessor7 Disney turned mulan into a mary sue. Just how Kathleen Kennedy turned Rey into a Mary Sue

[@mavisvioleta]

i call this mulan: elsa mulan. hide your chi, people saw your chi, and at the end when she took of the armor: let it go, let it go.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Mulsa!!!!

[@wesleyoldham4222]

"Are you familiar with money?" This turned into a Pitch Meeting so fast, and I love it. 😂

[@fallencloud2946]

wow wow wow wow

[@matityaloran9157]

Tight

[@Madchris8828]

My favorite fact of Mulan is that they thanked an internment camp in the credits. Just so wonderful! Made my opinion of Disney lower even further into the dumpster than I thought possible really

[@somedandy7694]

Anime and manga...they're the only hope for the world now.

[@ObieDobieZoomer]

at this point they're sitting beneath the chinese government's in-door porta-potty with their mouths wide open. and a big money hungry grin.

[@mutt9779]

Fun fact: Apple has a license(or patent, or some kind of legal protection, idk I'm no lawyer, just repeating trivia I've heard) that makes it illegal for qny studio to show the "bad guy" of a movie using their product? So what would happen if I made a movie where Idris Elba goes to liberate some of those.... "camps" ala "Django Unchained"(shooting everyone up and fucking up the whole system along the way like a total badass)? Would i be sued for making an evil movie about a black guy forcing western views on China? Should I still make the brown people look smaller on the promotional material too? Since... you know.... yellow people.... and stuff..... right?

[@jsmooth7160]

They don't have to like what they're doing its common practice to thank a place allowing them to film their the place didnt have to let them

[@Madchris8828]

@@jsmooth7160 why would you film in a place that is okay with gross human ethics and moral violations? Don't you think that by its nature is immoral and unethical? That would be like filming a fun tea scene in Auscwitz... it's fucked.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

*Mulan 2020 doesn't work because:* She is perfect from the start. She doesn't struggle, she doesn't learn and she's never out of her comfort zone. A perfect character =/= a strong character. Struggle =/= weakness. *And worst of all... in the end of Mulan2020, she bows to the patriarchy, literally, whereas in the original even the emperor bows to her for what she has achieved.* Its a twisted, empty and sterile movie. And quite regressive.

[@AndreNitroX]

It’s almost backwards despite being made by progressive feminists???? How does that happen

[@tedjomuljono3052]

@@AndreNitroX China

[@jordinagel1184]

@@tedjomuljono3052 and Disney

[@megabuster3940]

@@AndreNitroX Simple. It's just regressivism masquerading as progressivism.

[@johngowanjr5303]

In the source material she kills herself when the Emperor tells her she's now one of his concubines

[@yakunohayashi9653]

The good news about the Disney movies that weren’t a comercial success like Treasure Planet and Atlantis is that they aren’t popular enough to make shitty live actions based on them

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@michelerusso9745]

Don't be to confident about that, they can ways play the "underrated cult" card

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

@@michelerusso9745 GOD HELP US ALL.🤧

[@DrkValCain]

@@michelerusso9745 they touch Treasure Planet I’m throwing fists! T-T

[@kristin6351]

SHHHH! They can hear you...

[@lailamsouhli3892]

What's really disappointing is that Ming Na Wen proved that she can can indeed be a badass in Agents of Shield. So why the hell didn't they cast her. I've seen her project more emotion while playing a literal robot.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

She was also good in street fighter

[@Pistoolkip]

Strong characters aren't characters that are naturally skilled, invulnerable, or flawless. Strong characters are characters that learn and grow during their journey, overcoming obstacles and personal flaws on the way

[@MarciusWhithood]

Ergo, the "heroes journey"

[@Shadowkey392]

Not necessarily. Look at Mary Poppins; she’s the main character in all her stories, and she never develops as a character at all. The Chosen One/Mary Sue trope can actually work quite well if utilized correctly. That said, I will agree they shouldn’t have gone with it in this film.

[@Tespri]

Thisnis what leftists generally don't understand. They only see the results but don't understand importance to reach there. In real world empowerement doesn't work. What works is will of fire to master your craft regardless what others say or do.

[@chendror872]

Exactly

[@chendror872]

@@Tespri no one was talking about politics here

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

Dear Disney, Just because you don’t want a strong female character to rely on a man for assistance doesn’t mean make her a Mary Sue. There’s actually nothing wrong with a female character taking what she learned from a man and making it her own (in fact I think it’s what made Mulan so beloved in the first place). And if you still wanted to take men out of the equation entirely, have them be taught by a woman. You can take men out of the equation while not making her a Mary Sue, kill two birds with one stone. Please keep this in mind when making films in the future. Sincerely yours, OG Mulan fans (+Star Wars fans too)

[@mcalpha527]

Congratulations on being the first commenter

[@ryanreyes6337]

Damn. Did you have this ready before the video even came out?

[@ElectricBookWorm]

How the f did you type that in 30 sec? I don't disagree with statement, but dang that was fast.

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

@@ryanreyes6337 barely, I typed this up within the 5 minutes before the video was live

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

@@ElectricBookWorm copy and paste

[@trashman11]

I like how they bragged about a more empowered woman in Mulon but ended up making her worse but giving me magic powers from birth. Im sorry if i had a daughter i wouldn't show her this because i dont want her thinking she could only be worth anything if she was born with magic.

[@andyz2861]

Pretty much every female character that’s come out within the last several years would be complete poison for a little girl. Imagine if all your heroes succeed effortlessly on the first time, make everyone around them look I completely incompetent by comparison, but you don’t, and you never saw heroes like Rocky who had to fall down and learn to get back up.

[@trashman11]

@@andyz2861 yep, thats *PERFECT* teach the child if they dont get it right the first time they're not ment to succeed, or something is wrong with thim. Id just show her the original. Mulon was already a good role model. Protecting who she loves, refusing to let traditional life tell her what she would do in order to do so, and fighting alongside the men and proving she was the same WITHOUT MAGIC. And for me the most important part, it didn't seem pandering, and was still entertaining. As a woman i hate being pandered to, and id be even more angry if my child was pandered to. If every single one of your characters is raving about how they're going to break the glass ceiling or the company behind it weasels tgat message in with painfully obvious signs im not going to give it attention. Make me good characters. Not glorified feminism tokens.

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

@@andyz2861 Yeah, it's rather ironic how male characters are showing growth while women aren't and turning into Mary Sues. What the heck feminism?

[@andyz2861]

@@trashman11 Yeah, I imagine you have no idea how bad it’s gotten. If you heard of the 2019 movie Captain Marvel, the character that gets listed as the villain gets defeated in a spar in one of the very first scenes. She’s told to control her emotions and later finds out that they just wanted to control her, but there’s zero stakes because she’s just so ridiculously overpowered that nothing can hurt her. NC says it’s live action Disney remakes, but it’s everywhere.

[@andyz2861]

@@mkdemigodzillawarrior This is what happens when you literally believe that the only lesson little girls need to learn is that they’re perfect just the way they are. Everyone has to learn and grow in life, and male and female stories should be exceptionally similar in all the important ways.

[@gabrielbush1325]

After watching this just after the review of the Mulan II straight to video movie, I find it hilarious that it was said in that review that the live-action remake couldn't be worse

[@diegodubber2140]

This is so horrible it surely made the Critic change his mind

[@pchtommy1268]

the sequel was actually good

[@TheMegaOnyx]

The only liveaction I want to see is Atlantis and Treasure Planet... They are already underated and shuned, so there is no downside by doing it, and even if it flops, it could motivate people to see the animated films...

[@PhoenixRising87]

So many people have made fantasy cast lists for a live-action Atlantis; PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Seeing how Atlantis was the first Disney animation aimed at teens, there is some potential to make a great adaptation... or mess it up like everything else before it.

[@LilyZerep]

It would be awesome to see but I'm pretty sure Disney would screw it up 🙁

[@princevegeta4313]

Not gonna lie, that was a kick ass parody of "Be a man"

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

Though it's depressing that a parody song commenting on everything wrong with the movie it's parodying has more creativity, heart and fun than the entire movie it's mocking.

[@starbound100]

@@stainlesssteelfox1 that is why it's parody, otherwise it's just a cover. A sad state of things nonetheless.

[@sdsign4229]

I've been wondering, is the reason why NC changes the melodies of all his parodies so that he can avoid the copyright bots? If so, that's a real shame. His lyrics are good, but being forced to change the iconic melodies makes everything sound "off". I blame KZbin :(

[@matityaloran9157]

Agreed

[@TheDisney1901]

Mulan 1998: Works hard to find herself, a strong and well written character thanks to an excellent story crew including Chris Sanders who eventually made Lilo and Stitch Mulan 2020: *BIRD* kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5rblYyjademq9k

[@TheDisney1901]

@John Cena To be fair, Mulan's dad did train her from childhood in the original legend. It could work in other film versions, but in the context of Mulan 2020 and other films studio chairman Alan Horn has put out, it doesn't.

[@andyz2861]

@John Cena She can kick arrows out of the air and redirect them into hitting people as an adult. Take a guess how many other characters in the movie can do this. A few others can run up walls.

[@TheDisney1901]

@John Cena Exactly! That's why I said it doesn't work in the context of Mulan 2020.

[@JonathanG94]

That sword in the stone sketch is hilariously accurate. I just hope it doesn't give Disney anymore horrible ideas for remakes.

[@kylemorello4787]

I got another idea for a parody trailer that mocks these remakes: Disney Live Action Remakes 2010s edition. In which we see what would happen if the Disney hits of that decade got nostalgic enough to warrant live action remakes, and beloved characters like Rapunzel, Vanellope, Judy Hopps, or Moana we're written like the other remake versions of acclaimed Disney ladies. And then follow it up with saying that they're going to make more Disney Channel original movies like the Kim Possible one, but with Gravity Falls, Owl House, Amphibia, Ghost and Molly McGee, and other recent beloved TV cartoons, and show the girls in those shows acting like your average hokey Discom characters, like how Kim was in her film. Well, at least that joke she made about how cartoony it is that she wore the same outfit all the time won't be seen as out of place with shows of today: Stan: Y'see Mabel, that cyclops is a figurine being moved one frame at a time by a social awkward shut in. Soos: Those people are called animators.

[@louis8487]

The worst part for the character was it went from her having to train and work hard to become a warrior then in the remake nah she’s just a natural badass. Who needs character growth?

[@Coolcoolcooldude]

That can work. If your character is strong physically, then challenge them emotionally or mentally. Like Superman.

[@louis8487]

Yeah, also a perfect character can just simply work if it serves the story. I was talking about in comparison to the original Mulan.

[@fellinuxvi3541]

@@Coolcoolcooldude Sure, but definitely not as a remake of Mulan. Superman isn't a male empowerment figure, he's so powerful so his stories can focus on morality rather than just problem-solving, but surely a character that's merely human, should face physical problems, right?

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@louis8487]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 Is it worth watching by today's standards?

[@colemanbubar5098]

The thing that bothered me the most about this movie was actually the utter stupidity of every single military decision and combat contrivance

[@championofthedarksoul4200]

Shadiversity did a video about that.

[@knightmare3706]

@@championofthedarksoul4200 yeah, and I just lost the SMALL bit of hope I had for this movie cause they sold it as a Chinese epic movie style with great fights and all......but....the fights sucked more than the movie.

[@bolbyballinger]

Yeah, the fight scenes are only good if you have no clue how fights work. Flashy crap for the masses that never holds up to scrutiny.

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

Ah, another cultured student of Shadiversity, I see.

[@icarue993]

Also also: let's hire all these martial artists that can do full on choreographies alone... but also ruin it with horrible camera work.

[@vjara94]

Can you imagine if a wuxia director made Mulan, if a bollywood director made Aladdin, if the lion King was done in a mockumentary kind of way.. Diversity in Disney, but only for the secondary characters, and when making a Chinese movie make sure to endorse a concentration camp to please the Chinese government

[@fabiofuoco]

I would have loved a different approach for every live action, a more sincere and coherent one like the ones you suggested! I can picture them! In fact it almost seem like that was the idea all along but every time they were forced by the higher ups to just stick to the original (with awkward results). Although my wish is that they would actually be experimental and you know, make new movies instead of remakes.

[@vjara94]

@@fabiofuoco totally agree, I would love to see they try a new hand animated movie (even if I have enjoyed some of the cgi ones), or at least make something interesting with the remakes, the bare minimum. I dream of Mulan done like crouching tiger hidden dragon, with a lot of wire work and that classic Hong Kong feeling to it. And until they do something interesting like that I'm probably going to continue not watching those movies.

[@fabiofuoco]

@@vjara94 same, it’s just too depressing every time. I’d rewatch the original every other day though!

[@vjara94]

@@fabiofuoco one of my favorites too 👌🏼

[@tsartomato]

aladin is supposedly arabian, not indian

[@alicegraham1571]

Movie: How bad do you want to piss off fans? Director: YES

[@AVdE10000]

The only good thing about the live action remakes is that they show in incredible detail how well put together the originals were

[@aymann7234]

"I don't think that's how chi works." So they're chi-ting?

[@steveo554]

I don't know if I should applaud this or give you the hook.

[@Underworlder5]

@@steveo554 sounds like a slow clap is what the situation calls for

[@steveo554]

@@Underworlder5 I say that is a fair assessment.

[@tristanhartup4936]

Boo! Get off the stage!

[@BlazerK1914]

Animated Mulan: “STAY DOWN!” Live Action Mulan: “No.”

[@loganc23]

Animated Mulan: “STAY DOWN!” Live Action Mulan: “...”😐

[@kage1061]

"I believe Wa Mulan!" "I believe Wa Mulan!" *"I'm Spartacus!"* 🎵"I'm Squidward, I'm Squidward! Squidward, Squidward, Squidward!"🎵🤣

[@louisduarte8763]

I AM GROOT! What are we doing?

[@kage1061]

@@louisduarte8763 I don't know, but "I'm a dog too!"😂

[@PhoenixRising87]

I'm Fartacus!

[@jabarithegoldenlucario8841]

I am… Super Vegeta!

[@kage1061]

@@jabarithegoldenlucario8841 I am here!

[@ronaldeliascorderocalles]

I actually believed it was Eddie Murphy. Malcolm makes a really good impersonation

[@bmack1708]

"This movie is so high Joe ROgan would smoke it." Accurate LOL

[@AndreNitroX]

Joe Rogan should invite Doug to his show

[@avatheartcup]

Takes out Mushu to be more adult, but then adds a witch

[@Jesup1204]

I’ve read some of the original Ballots and none of mention Mushu at all.

[@ikebirchum6591]

Witches as portrayed in the movie aren't even a thing in Chinese mythology. They're 100% European. It's like if they remade Emperor's New Groove and put a ninja in it and just pretended ninjas were a thing for the Incans

[@blu3kawaii]

​@@ikebirchum6591 Also, the phoenix they put in this movie is the western depiction.

[@MouseGoat]

@@ikebirchum6591 I mean... Emperor's New Groove might be a bit of a bad example here. yeah sure no ninjas, but.. pretty sure sunglasses, secret science layers and rollercoaster, restaurants, and Scouts training were not Incan accurate things lol!

[@thattheatrenerd1418]

@@Jesup1204 yes but they do not have to follow the source point for point, it is just very hypocritical how they say no Mushu because it is too much magic when they add in a witch that has 1. Zero tie to the original and 2. Has no need to be in it. And they break the laws of gravity as much as a God dam Si Fi film.

[@SummonerDagger88]

The dad in Mulan reminded me of Will Smith in After Earth xD "DENIED! SIT DOWN!"

[@JoeChillton]

CYPHER RAGE 😂

[@christiankettlewell]

That “disgrace on your cow” was so appreciated 😂

[@Reapermaskhybrid]

"Dude, overcompensating for something?" Yeah, the lack of a good script and character.

[@TheNinjaInConverse]

Disney's interactions with the CCP around this movie, both with the filming location and the lead's comments on Hong Kong, are the reason I won't get Disney Plus. I wouldn't have watched it even if it was good.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Has anyone actually seen the movie that China itself made in 2009 called "Mulan: Rise of a Warrior" ? China actually BEAT Disney by 12 years through the REAL live action adaptation. It was everything we wanted in a Live Action Mulan.

[@ddjsoyenby]

good.

[@oliverrumagit3781]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 that movie is so good and more closer to the ballad of mulan and so did the live action but they put some elements to it and made it different

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

@@oliverrumagit3781 YES!!!😃 THANK YOU!😆 That's exactly what I'm saying. Honestly, your're the first person in this video's comment section to give me feedback on Rise of a Warrior. I don't care if I'm accused of "spamming" when really I'm just asking different people in different comment threads of this comment section if they've seen it, I NEED TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT ALONE. The Critic himself never pointed it out, it's that underrated. So thank you, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY!!!😆😃😊👍❤❤😇

[@oliverrumagit3781]

@@ellugerdelacruz2555 yes i watched it 3 times already with the 2009 remake rise of a warrior it has a lot of messages there. 2009 vs 2020 i think 2009 wins for the messages and representation but for cinematography 2020 wins❤