Mulan is the Worst Disney Live-Action Remake So Far

[@lyn4483]

“This movie has the worst editing ever” Me : it can’t be that bad “I literally did not edit anything you’re seeing on screen rn” Me : ...oh

[@JacoryWilliams]

yeah, that got me.

[@cornboi4217]

Yeah I watched the movie, he’s not lying the action scenes were pretty bad.

[@theoneandonlyever]

i literally started zoning out bc it hurt my eyes so bad

[@kneal9203]

I felt like I was in a whirlpool lol

[@kneal9203]

@@cornboi4217 sorry you paid 30 dollars to watch this

[@tala9817]

A chinese woman made a twitter thread about how inaccurate the movie was culture wise so the argument that they cut out a bunch of stuff for culture just hurts much worse.

[@FuegodeInfierno]

But hey, white libs got what they wanted

[@bubbles4897]

A link to the thread?

[@yusonute]

Twitter? Damn we are so down

[@simeonwashington9995]

Link please!

[@n-extrafries-surprise]

I would also want to see the tweet myself.

[@KingKlonoa]

I was at my dad's house on Labor Day, and he said "hey why don't we watch Mulan?" And hey, the original might be my favorite Disney movie ever made, and I may have been religiously avoiding everything about the live action version since its announcement, but HEY: it can't be that bad right? Watching the live action movie felt akin to having my soul sucked out in real-time. I couldn't agree more with EVERYTHING said in this. Bravo.

[@Logan-th9is]

My dad did the same thing

[@braxdonjohnson1765]

Wait, you watch this channel? It's always fun to see a youtuber you like watching another youtuber you like

[@m0ckyzo185]

Mulan was better represented in KH2 and saying that hurts my soul

[@Monad7961]

@UCi_WHT-mh8aRI9FsKnF8cdQ wait you do know he doesn't actually mean he may even like other movies and irrelevanttly saying it to make it sell more because that's marketing is it not

[@Monad7961]

@@Logan-th9is um its marketing his not actually meaning it

[@bonedude666]

Something else I hate is how the main villain dies. In the animated version, he gets launched into a bunch of fireworks and exploding in a fire of colors. Cartoony, but somewhat realistic. You can absolutely die from fireworks. In the live action version, the emperor catches an arrow flying at him at top speed like an anime character, throws it, and Not Mulan kicks it with enough power to pierce and kill him. They absolutely butchered it. No other words for it.

[@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421]

"Butchered" is pretty appropriate in this context

[@bonedude666]

@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 Butchered is a strong word. It's the right word, but still.

[@Aimi_Kaneko]

I never seen the remake and hearing this version of the villain’s death just made me lose braincells

[@twotruckslyrics]

@@Aimi_Kanekous 🤝

[@reinor-m1m]

exactly plus I think its symbolic I mean the fire works symbolis how an empire falling is a captavating yet scary site cause it could happen to yours

[@Emirichu]

I was already uninterested in this movie because it's a live action remake, but then I find out they completed omitted the iconic hair cutting scene with the banger 80s synths and now im INSULTED

[@ghadasarraj1174]

Omg hiii~

[@sophie-ns6jw]

WOAH HI

[@stellarstar1510]

I 100% agree with you on this! It's just horrible that Disney has done this to the most iconic scene of Mulan.

[@lostdog11]

i love your content and the mulan from this movie is just a bad fanfiction of rambo with magic

[@ramram_1904]

I'm literally not sure if I should actually be watching it just to see if it's legit bad as everyone is saying.. but it honestly feels like a waste of time to even try and do that lol (Also I love ur content! ^^)

[@mossbag69]

"so far"

[@lucarodriguezgiordano6462]

Oh hi mossbag! (Lore on gruz mother when)

[@jorgecaballero1013]

nice, love your vids!!!

[@warrioresse9408]

Oh my, one of my favourite KZbinrs watches another one of my favourites. This just made my day tbh.

[@Ihavetoreturnsomevideotapes]

U Simp

[@thet-guy4049]

Oh shit, you watch Schaffrillas too?

[@Santiago-pd4en]

"We cut Mushu out of the movie because we wanted to be more realistic"...... The movie starts with a little girl doing parkour across rooftops, we have a witch that transform into a dozen birds and Mulan doesn't prove to everyone that no matter your gender you can push yourself forward and improve upon yourself and prove everyone that even in a toxic male environment a woman can also shine....but instead she just born with magic powers...

[@evancraig-w7q]

This movie says it wants to be realistic, but in the opening scene when she was the powers, the concept of realistic goes to shit

[@ToonReel001]

They mean the 'cool' type of 'realistic', as in super in your face gritty and dark and absolutely no humour or whimsy or colour in any way so you know this is the 'grown up's' version of Mulan.

[@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800]

Exactly this is so bad. Like seriously 😒 Mulan animated was amazing 😉. Comparing the movies. Animated Mulan 😄 Live Action☹️😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@evancraig-w7q]

Also the phoenix

[@coolerreviews6580]

@Chin Wing LIU Because they never tried to be realistic with those ones,they said they wanted this to be “realistic” but it ended up as a waste of money

[@huzaifahahmed4303]

You can tell Schaff's angry when he doesn't use as many Tamatoa pictures in his review. Not a SINGLE frame of his face is enough to truly express the anger within.

[@florussell9116]

when the soldiers find the little child's doll and realise SHE's the girl worth fighting for !!!!? this film had zero emotion. zero

[@caljernes]

Indeed! Mulan 1998 is much more darker and have more emotions. And also I want to mention as well the time when there was a 2 soldiers that Huns caught and they were ask to send a message to the emperor but they only let them deliver it by one soldier. And one of the Huns shot down the other guy while they were running. Damn

[@LunaTheCommenter]

Also the fact that she rips off her armor in battle to "be true to herself"...GIRL YOU CAN STILL BE YOURSELF AND WEAR ARMOR!!! ARMOR KEEPS YOU SAFE!!!

[@LisaAnne1998]

and took her hair out of her bun? Like I know they where try to do a girl power thing or something but I'm pretty sure hair in your face during battle is a sure way to get killed.

[@eri-mq4rq]

@@LisaAnne1998 there's a reason soldiers shave their hair off bruh

[@PitXRoxas]

bruh idiot

[@gracelacourte6309]

THATS THE EXACT SAME THOUGHT I HAD

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Ah but you see, this doesn't take place in china. It takes place in the china region of catachan, because you'd have to be living in Warhammer 40k for that to make sense.

[@talkingheadsfan]

what i believe made the original mulan so special was mulan herself. she didn’t get free passes, she trained with all the other men and still was able to prove herself a strong team mate. team mate, not person. she fought within a team, where she relied on her partners and they relied on her. she didn’t become ‘better’ than everyone because of some magical chi, she worked hard and it payed off. this remake just makes a mockery out of it.

[@ee-td3ex]

zuko is a simp Disney be like: *we now copy overpowered anime protagonists*

[@danielleferreira2165]

EXACTLY. They take everything that I loved before but I said to my self let's give a chance. Well. I WAS WRONG! I love Mulan because she did battle in every part of the movie, she did her best, she never give up, even when it's world against her. Her family is far away, her friends are disappointed with her, the man she loves and admires it's felling betrayed, she lost everything, and yet she choose to get up and fight for her country and for the people that she love.

[@koalateacontent5094]

its almost like characters growing, needing to face actual challenges, and having depth make good characters. Here we have someone who was a physical god from the start for bullshit reasons not being challenged or showing any particular prowess other than "im just good at it", not interacting with or deeply affecting other likeable characters, who shows next to no emotions, and faces few threats (like the baddies causing the avalanche themselves to prove their incompetence).

[@koalateacontent5094]

@@ee-td3ex except op anime protagonists usually have psychoemotional growth arcs to make up for it.

[@memo-fq3ps]

It's just not relatable. When I watch Mulan training in the original movie, I feel empowered because we watch her go from being one of the weakest, someone more at most regular girls' level, to being a strong warrior just like the guys. Giving her chi just tells us, "Yeah women can be strong, but only if they have magical powers."

[@tiberiusfemur374]

You know, I've been thinking about this for a long time. You mention that the cricket gets all the hate in the world for ruining Mulan's chances with the matchmaker and not Mulan herself. That is true and the cricket deserves it, but why was the cricket given to Mulan? It was given by her Grandmother based on the belief that crickets give good luck, and we clearly see this belief is false. And with that understanding, a gong went off in my head. This theme, the idea of traditions being flawed or even counterintuitive is shown all the way throughout the film, not just in the human charecters, but in the story beats as well. Going back to the grandma, her belief in the cricket's luck is almost hypocritical as her first line is her chiding the mother's worries. ("I should have prayed to the ancestors for luck." "How much luck can they be? They're dead.") It is true that she crossed the road, but that could have happened without the cricket. Mushu is the only one of the guardians we see and from minute one, we are shown is unhelpful and pathetic at his job. (Rip Fa Zane). During the training montage as well, the most Mushu tries is cheating. And when he tries to awaken The Great Stone Dragon, he does so with no reverence, no care to this being it is hinted is far above anything he could have been. Speaking of The Great Stone Dragon, this thing is given such importance, such reverence by the family and ancestors. In the scene before Mulan's haircutting, we see her beside the statue, sitting in it's lap as a child would a comforting parent for guidance. And yet she makes her own decision after seeing the turmoil of her actual family. And the final nail in the coffin is that this great statue is just that, a statue, broken by what is reguarded as a failure of a spirit. But the biggest thing that cements this all is how Mushu ensures the troop goes to war; not by magic trickery or spiritual divination, but by disguising as a human messenger with news. In short the animated movie is the theme 'magic doesn't help you win' done right rather than treating it as a wink to the audience.

[@helenaperez4343]

That’s actually a really intriguing analysis.

[@skeleletonboi4533]

it could be argued that cricket ruining the meeting with the matchmaker *was* good luck as it set in motion the series of events that led to Mulan saving China, though I am quite a fan of your take on things too

[@Faux_Sunlight]

@@skeleletonboi4533 the best movies have themes that can be approached with multiple points of view.

[@redrubytwilightxx8700]

​@@Faux_Sunlight or that Mulan would have been miserable if she was successful with the matchmaker.

[@macyjade1093]

I originally thought this was going to be a historically accurate version of Mulan and that reason they removed mushu and the songs was to allow for a more accurate and serious movie. After watching it I realized no this is just Disney’s mulan but striped of everything that made it great. It, like all the other live action remakes, is nostalgia bait nothing more.

[@eliraeclipse2435]

Nostalgia isn't the only purpose. It's also to let the kids in this new generation know about the movies. I was upset when my youngest sister watched Aladdin AND Beauty and the Beast (animated) the first time and said "isn't this like the movie with the real people?" (Live action remake). But although the live actions are nothing more than for nostalgia, the thing I mentioned and mainly money, not all of them are bad. I personally enjoyed beauty and the beast and Aladdin.

[@mjmz864]

Sad, truly

[@lania0637]

Yes exactly! I’ve honestly hoped for a less racist version of it that would’ve still allowed all the heartwarming relationships and jokes and ideas shine through and maybe the original soundtrack too! So far I havn’t watched it nor read any reviews, but I do trust schraffilla and was shocked by the scenes he showed on screen :///

[@tnecniw]

The ironic thing... is that I would be 100% fine with it if they made a 100% real life non- magical non fantastical Mulan film. An epic story of a woman in an army... But nah... lets make it even LESS realistic than the animated version.

[@catalayalafaye5337]

If it would be an historical accurate movie I would watch the hell out of it. Like I love historical dramas and having one with a strong female who goes secretly to the army? Yeah golden.

[@incredidude101]

Going to take a wild guess and say that the horse in the animated version has more of a personality than anyone on the remake.

[@R3TR0S_Vids]

Yeah pretty much

[@yes_hi_there]

The funny fact is, that yes, the horse has more personality

[@ElvenPrince]

What horse? I only remember there being a cow.

[@R3TR0S_Vids]

@@ElvenPrince ....The horse that Mulan rode most of the original movie

[@ElvenPrince]

@@R3TR0S_Vids that was a cow, i fully trust mushu on this.

[@shemdraws]

"I don't care about the children! I just care about their parent's money!" -Mr. Krabs This quote perfectly represents modern Disney.

[@michaelstrong5383]

"What inspired you to create these live action remakes to your classic films?" "Money."

[@jaimebustillofernandez3901]

Disney: "Am I really gonna remake my classic movies for money?" "OF COURSE I AM!"

[@mittycommitspizzatime92]

At least Mr. Krabs has a heart...

[@sunshineholtzlander5593]

Walt Disney is turning over in his grave and screaming his head off😭😭😭😭

[@chrisrockett5897]

@@sunshineholtzlander5593 Nah, dude made pretty racist characters in his old movies.

[@AnonyBoiii]

Director/producers: “We wanted to make this film realistic” Also the directors/producers: *Hits money blunt* “Witches, Phoenixes and Mulan Skywalker”

[@hazeltade3679]

Also Mongol women being kept out of battle lmao like I’m not gonna go around and say they were feminists but the idea that women fighting was alien to them is ridiculous

[@lemdem]

Original movie: Hard work and determination will make you succeed Live action: Fuck hard work, I have the power of God and anime on my side!

[@dangerdash4393]

AHHHHHHH-

[@shaniadirstein3650]

1998 : Hard working, butt kicking female who trains along men and who starts off her training experience making mistakes but keeps working and trying and uses her smarts and self discipline to get better and improve.... Never gives up! 2020 : M A G I C

[@jakethepillowsnake4098]

Underrated comment.

[@superstar64]

Plot armor

[@hollowsid9623]

i love these comments

[@benjaminhaines7145]

Disney: We removed Mushu to make the movie more serious and real. Also Disney: PAPER PHOENIX

[@Smileeeeeys]

Also also Disney: Mulan has magic chi powers now woop woop

[@Blueflamex23]

Also also also also Disney: BIRD LADY

[@benjaminhaines7145]

Um ok imma be real, I did not expect this to reach 200 thumbs up in an hour. ThAnks FOR tHe rEddit GolD Kind StRangers. I will just move this to the bottom if anyone wants to continue the chain BTW

[@hotpotatodude3473]

@@benjaminhaines7145 wholesome chungus

[@rosierotibi2973]

Paper Phoenix go whoooosh

[@xoshanland]

1998: A girl worth fighting for 2020: A film worth not watching

[@ausername8699]

I really hope they don't butcher Hunchback of Notre Dame. Out of all the live action remakes, this one needs to be good.

[@xoshanland]

@@ausername8699 omg I didn’t know they were making that- I’m actually terrified they will fuck it up !!!! 🙈

[@ausername8699]

@@xoshanland It's on their remake list, but it probably won't come out for a long time due to Covid. Hopefully they learn from Mulan because it lost a ton of money trying to be both Chinese and Westernized at the same time. Hunchback should relatively easier to adapt since its more similar Les Miserables than Mulan.

[@evancraig-w7q]

@@ausername8699 it's a bad idea because scary big shoulder man would scare the toddlers that are watching because their grandma bought the wrong DVD instead of the real Hunchback of Notre Dame. All the Disney live-action remakes are just cash grabs

[@shinysnivy6604]

@@ausername8699 Oh god they are gonna ruin hellfire somehow aren't they.

[@williammyers2190]

I am a straight man. Mulan is one of my favorite Disney movies of all time. 1998 one. In that version she had something called character growth. She starts out as bumbling somewhat of a disappointment to her parents who doubts her worth in the family. Yet she deeply loves her family enough to the point of going her fathers place where impersonating a man would mean death. She is weak physically at first bad at anything martial and yet with time and training she grows stronger and earns the respect from her fellow soldiers. She leads by example and puts her life on the line to save China her friends and most importantly her family by going to shoot the cannon by herself. She is revealed to be a woman and banished. She again saves China well at least the emperor. When she gets home she is accepted well more so haha and she’s confident to approach li Shang for dinner. The songs are awesome the set up etc. it’s funny it shows mass death wounds war fighting. It also shows the amount of sexism that has existed historically in which women have been oppressed and how she overcame stereotypes and earned respect of men to show the strength all women possess. Yet this movie screwed that up. She’s a Mary sue who is the quote unquote the secret weapon from the start. The whole shell die is not there. There is no character growth cuz there’s almost no character. Obviously I was very very disappointed with the remake haha.

[@mikewazowski3335]

The animated Mulan had the theme “Anyone can be a hero” but the live action had the theme that “You have to be born special to be a hero”

[@kingdionysus1867]

As Zuko stated, in the best of my memory, "I was lucky to be born; she (Azula) was born lucky." Literally what live-action Mulan said. You gotta be fuckin' born lucky just to be a hero.

[@Mikescool444]

Thank you Mike Wazowski

[@NicoEdgy]

She needs superpowers to be a worthy opponent to male villains

[@danielinteressante5886]

I was the like 420

[@cryptic_shirmp1895]

I’m special ed so I’m a hero

[@Dan-qy6zv]

What makes this even more funny, is the fact that the movie implies without these Chi powers of hers, she would not be on the same level as men. Basically saying, that without them, she can't match the men. SHE NEEDS SUPER POWERS TO MATCH WITH THE MEN. Meanwhile, in the animated version, Mulan trains with the men, gaining the same training and experience, and on the same level because she earned it through hard work, and dedication. NOT BULL**** CHI POWERS FROM THE F***ING UNIVERSE OF BULL****!

[@Andy-ld8zk]

Ironic, isn't it?

[@Dash-lx4ng]

They became that what they strived to destroy.

[@lunatronlina]

Ugh honestly

[@hybrid5860]

Mulan not having any need for a training scene is by far the most insulting part of the movie. What makes the original Mulan so good, is that she trains her ass off to be as good as her peers until she eventually starts getting even better than them. Love action basically says; “training scenes? Who needs that shit? OBVIOUSLY magic is why she’s so good. Fuck current Disney

[@SpiltMySquash]

Dude calm down *hands you a copy of Kung Fu Panda*

[@jasonwillows5239]

This movie spent way, way more time establishing the fact that Mulan was a female than they did establishing characters.

[@The_Cheezit_Man]

I feel like Disney is so afraid of media nowadays. In most of their recent movies you can’t go 5 seconds without them trying to shove the idea of feminism *down your throat so far Cardi B would be satisfied* .Now, I’m all about feminism and woman’s rights, but Wholy shit your a kids company that’s supposed to have these hidden messages and meanings. At least TRY and make it subliminal Wholy crap.

[@NicoEdgy]

The funny thing is she wasn’t a hero as a strong woman, she was a f***ing superhero

[@andershusmo5235]

I wonder how long it's going to take Disney to realize that female isn't a character trait.

[@DoValeeeeeee]

Woman*

[@NicoEdgy]

@@DoValeeeeeee Female means woman

[@Toon_Lucario]

The editing in this movie makes Spy Kids look like the most amazing action movie

[@alejop.4968]

Spy Kids IS the best action movie

[@sugondeez1708]

Um.... W O T

[@MariOmor1]

Spy Kids 3 and 4 were the best

[@keddakedda7939]

Well technically at that time period it was but I can understand where your going here

[@Al0neStillAlive]

No no clearly Shark Boy and Lava Girl are the best.

[@lucymallory997]

the message from this movie is women can only be strong if they were born special and "not like other girls"

[@chinesedramafan4787]

My brother owns a sword but he might as well give it to me cuz I take over it.

[@smartstuf1026]

oh shit this really is just the "not like other girls" thing but literally

[@inanakatheboss3001]

@@chinesedramafan4787 good for you?

[@chinesedramafan4787]

@@inanakatheboss3001 lol, i said this because nobody is born special, but we can earn our own unique talents.

[@skaisathedutchie7003]

She’s not like other girls, she’s a robot.

[@24FramesOfNick]

I love mad schaff

[@spidertails9797]

What are you doing here nick?

[@lisamackilligan2589]

Well well well, looks like a collab may be coming

[@spooderman6312]

Ur not the only one

[@iknowmyopinioniswrongbut6785]

You and me both

[@utisti4976]

Eyyyyy wassup, Nick.

[@maddi1168]

say it with me kids: not everything needs to be live action, animation is WONDERFUL

[@lysparks5319]

I mean some things need to be live action but remaking something that was originally in animation, in live action probably won’t work.

[@LivingLifeSaba]

One word: money.

[@trippatepis6489]

The only thing that needs to be in live action is Pokemon. And I do mean no CGI and no puppetry or robotics.

[@mehsayori]

Aye aye captain.

[@malu5117]

There is already a live action movie for mulan before this and it's waaayy better

[@eggnotegg]

Mulan (1998) is my favorite Disney movie of all time. Mulan (2020) is my inner demons in the form of film. When I watched this for the first, only, and last time I seriously felt the urge to pull out my eyes.

[@Ledinosour673]

And ears

[@Ledinosour673]

And nose

[@Ledinosour673]

And all other sensory organs

[@tn4l41]

Pirated this movie and i still want a refund

[@beanieguitarguy4070]

Now I’m just imaging the guy who’s streaming it PayPal’s you some money with an “I’m sorry” note. 😂

[@PS-dm1dq]

Disney ought to pay you for the trauma of having watched it

[@NoComplicationSkate]

Kudos to your for doing that. Legit. Disney wants people to pay 30 fucking bucks or something to get the movie early, instead of just releasing it to Disney+ when they plan to (which, needless to say, should be never).

[@crunchy1547]

Link please?

[@milkywayflea404]

@@crunchy1547 gotcha dude www.olevod.com/?m=vod-play-id-21158-src-1-num-1.html if you can handle the hentai ads then you're good to go

[@coffeetable240]

It's like they say: you only really notice the editing in movies when it's done poorly.

[@Why_It]

When it's really good, you'll be too immersed to notice it.

[@watermelonthesquidward6021]

exactly! and if the editing is on point i wouldn’t notice anything since it looks realistic. the editing in this movie is so bad i notice it like almost every 5 mins omg

[@andreaswesterveld]

Or when it's done extremly well. Like in Breaking Bad or in a Stanley Kubrick movie

[@turquoisecrow4513]

Or when it’s really trippy

[@genericname2747]

Hello, I work for Disney, and I'm proud to announce that we're remaking The Princess and The Frog. We're getting rid of all the magic, because we want the movie to be as realistic as possible. Also, we're getting rid of Prince Naveen. And we're getting rid of all the references to racism, since we want this to be a family friendly movie. We're also getting rid of all the music. And literally any sound. There's now a brand new character who can transform into an army of frogs, and she's also the main villain.

[@justasmltwngir1732]

ngl the last idea would be great

[@genericname2747]

@@justasmltwngir1732 Oh, ok. Thanks for telling me. :) I'll get rid of that idea. We can't have anything interesting in our movie

[@genericname2747]

@@justasmltwngir1732 Seriously though, now I wanna make a movie about a lady who can turn into an army of frogs

[@meredythwithay5187]

Memento mori

[@abrilortegareyes3059]

@@genericname2747 lol

[@abnormal_zen]

1998: Mulan has to LEARN how to fight, but her major talent is the smart moves she makes. Brains over brawn 2020: MULAN BUILT DIFFERENT

[@dustymcwari4468]

Also, even her wits needed some refining, she was only using her talents to be a lazy loaf, which only lead to messy halfassed jobs and her getting very lost if she was not allowed to cheat her way out, the board game clip showed her untapped potential as a problem solver, and the training helped her strengthen that aspect of hers, while also greatly reducing her weaknesses, making her all the more balanced and capable

[@carlosmattessich3883]

1998*

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

1998

[@HER0_]

YESSIR

[@shawnrheaume7114]

I agree that this 2020 remake is so bad

[@Zulk_RS]

Me: Damn, I'm not digging this new editing style Schaf is experimenting with. It's too jumpy and makes my eyes hurt. Schaf: I did not edit any of the shit you're seeing on the screen right now. This is all how it looks in the movie. Me: Oh... Oh no.

[@chouniro]

I never expected to get motion sickness from a video on such a small screen

[@zurielschubert9410]

Lmao Chinese action scene goes BRRRRRR *my dad watched a lot of kung fu movie. At least the old ones. And it's basically **-swish swoosh cling cling cling-** I do not love you mother, you killed my sister - flies then swoosh - then you are not my father*

[@websurfer945]

Exactly xD I was so annoyed till he says that’s not edited

[@Fearthecow792]

I actually started to feel nauseous when he started complaining about the editing, watching the scenes back-to-back. This is attrocious, holy crap.

[@AnythingGeeky]

YUP

[@jimmyluu89]

I pirated this movie and still want a refund.

[@tomasmaestrale2031]

......ooof that burnactually made me audibly say..... oof

[@lsd1755]

gotta claim that refund for the amount of time wasted of watching this movie

[@ejedwards988]

If you get yours tell me how do I can get my refund too.

[@TCgiusti]

Literally the best comment ever

[@a.f5388]

Where did u watch it

[@pabloosset2533]

"No matter how the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow to it." That line is from the original Mulan movie, from the Emperor, an important but fairly minor character. And that alone is more memorable than this whole "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" wannabe.

[@WasatchWind]

And that is the mark of good character - every character is treated like a protagonist, that has personality, fears, and hopes. It's why I love books by Brandon Sanderson.

[@thelonewolf9866]

A single grain of rice can tip the scale! one man can be the difference between victory and defeat!

[@harrythesailor3622]

@@thelonewolf9866 what is that from? It sounds so familiar.

[@naolucillerandom5280]

@@harrythesailor3622 I think those are also from Mulan.

[@tsilarij-p3726]

That analogy works well to Disney. They are the mountain. Critics are the wind. As long as mountain grows bigger with money. More and more inferior remakes emerge.

[@lovelycloudyskies]

The actress for Mulan didn’t show ANY emotion, just had the same blank stare pinned on her face.

[@nikoskonstantinidis4069]

it's an independent woman from live-action-disney what did we expect?

[@yoshi_chuck05]

@@nikoskonstantinidis4069Oh yeah right! They DONT have souls GREAT! 🫠

[@boyboilNEO9055]

Pokémon sun and moon

[@Sp3ctralI]

@@boyboilNEO9055at least they :) instead of : |

[@superwilliam6432]

When you remove a character's struggle for improvement, it makes them less relatable, less human. The original Mulan may be a 2d animated charachter, but she has 3 dimensions to her personality and motivation. The lifeless stilted flesh puppet in the live action movie is about as complex as my left thumb.

[@niyaodom1944]

C’mon, don’t disrespect your thumb like that; thumbs are *complex, working, mean machines*

[@superwilliam6432]

@@niyaodom1944 you're right.

[@bhimlimbu5541]

girl you explained it perfectly!

[@dreamingblue3939]

You beat me to it. Mulan was always my favorite disney princess growing up, and what made her so cool to me was how much she had to work and struggle and suffer to win. My favorite moments in the movie are when she's at her lowest, when she fails or makes a fool of herself, because those moments made her relatable. And it made me see myself in her and want to root for her, making it so much more satisfying at the moments when she did succeed. It's such a basic, universal rule for writing that when you create a character, you have to give them character flaws. How did they mess that up so horribly?

[@Snow-xd4rv]

SuperWilliam64+ Amazing explanation of this movie

[@lyxandrast0ttr0n1x8]

The best part of the animated Mulan was the fact that Mulan wasn't magical or special, beyond her tenacity and intelligence. She manages to succeed because she finds unconventional solutions and refuses to give up. Take that out and what the hell is even the point??

[@lpfan4491]

Plus that her unconventional solutions do not make her overpowered. Like how she fired at the mountain instead of shan yu to win the war, yet that made the guy survive in the end. It is a depiction of actual human decisions and not just what the plot wants for it to end.

[@WizeDemon]

Yea, she was like anyone else which stuck out to us growng up that even being like everyone else we can succeed at something but nah just make her magicial because only special people can do stuff

[@wellobush9022]

this is the most sexist movie I have ever seen instead of Mulan training to fight like the on others she just naturally gifted and instead of her using her intelligence to get out of problems just use your muscles oh what you want to be an empowered woman but your not as strong or as naturally gifted in fighting like a man I mean like Mulan well too bad just go get married like Mulan sister.

[@paulitopichipoothingi8573]

ikr

[@wellobush9022]

@@paulitopichipoothingi8573 what

[@eddie-roo]

This movie is just an act of dishonor to everyone's cows

[@IcyDiamond]

Eddie R what if I don’t have a cow though

[@darthvader5201]

@@IcyDiamond your faviorite speck on the surface of the sidewalk

[@IcyDiamond]

Darth Kizr ?

[@47ratsinahoodie]

NOT MY COW!

[@Que_Drum]

The Fat Piranha Plant your next burger or steak

[@SCP_Wandsman13_13]

This reminds me of that time someone tried to make an airplane after the Wright Brothers did it, but got rid of everything that made the plane fly. It was in the air for two seconds before dropping at least 60 feet.

[@skygard49]

Wait that happened? Now you've got me curious dear fellow

[@SCP_Wandsman13_13]

@@skygard49 I don't remember much, but I do know that for the moment it was in the air, it became the world's first plane to be on a postcard.

[@poggerd7319]

1998: A girl worth fighting for 2020: A film not worth paying for

[@RYMAN1321]

1998 actually. *UPDATE* . I saw you corrected it.

[@taite8435]

copy and pasted from another comment?

[@poggerd7319]

I did not copy and paste we both had similar comments

[@adorablehuman6398]

Lol

[@redpanda6497]

*The viewers to Disney after the remakes:* "Are they blind?.. Suffering from some form of brain damage?" ( I just did a reference to your profile pic, but it fits. )

[@asahid3786]

Disney is trying so hard to show us they're feminists that they forget about writing an actual personality for their female lead

[@luislatinoman7055]

The worst part is they gave up actual entertainment for female empowerment here, but... *They failed that too.* Not every woman has chi running through their veins that magically makes them good at everything. So how the fuck is this supposed to inspire them?

[@sheenshah5253]

Disney teaching young girls, u r only worth if u r born prodigies or have super powers. 🤦‍♀️

[@Mystery_channel666]

@@sheenshah5253 more like a brainwash instead of teaching lol

[@armidagonzalez7254]

The best thing about Mulan as a character was her determination and capacity to face challenges, but they took that away. They threw away what really made her a strong woman and gave her superhero powers instead.

[@Win090949]

We should have a movie where the main character is an emotionless Mary Sue that later gains a personality or emotions, probably through male influence- oh wait that’s Wonder Woman

[@LiamTolentino]

The thing that seemed to bother me most, interestingly, was the cinematic score. The score in the film was so boring and they just randomly throw in the melody from Reflection and it adds absolutely nothing. The score from the 1998 film was so amazing and iconic that you could close your eyes and listen and you can almost see everything that happened when that particular track was playing in the movie. I never truly appreciated the scoring until i watched the 1998 version right after the 2020 remake just to wash out the bad taste it left in my mouth, and God damn, the original cinematic score was beautiful. I would probably enjoy 2020's Mulan if I replaced all the scores with the original.

[@Evergreen2219]

God I can’t STAND the score! It’s awful! It barely even sounds Chinese. For most of the film it sounds like a generic western princess Disney movie. Which is particularly disappointing since the guy the wrote it has worked closely with John Powell in the past who did the Kung Fu Panda score WHICH SLAPS.

[@MoOoNiEz]

And multiple times @ that Reflection playing in the background!!!

[@mr.tapman8685]

It’s like the Star Wars sequels slapping the force theme every ten seconds

[@traceymuy1942]

Yeah the score was sad. To me the score in the animated film helped it come together with the beautiful feeling/character the animation brought to it. In the 2020 one idk they just threw music in there.

[@seisage]

The composer for this movie was Harry Gregson-Williams and honestly, I have a feeling he was somehow fucked over by the rest of the production team for this movie because I can't really think of any other reason why this movie's score would suck so bad. Gregson-Williams has proven himself more than capable of writing brilliant scores. He's worked on The Martian, Shrek and Shrek 2, and the Chronicles of Narnia, all of which have pretty great music...

[@antilikka]

Biggest pet peeve with this movie. In the original the whole thing was “women can do what men can do, but because of the world you have to work harder, and constantly have to prove yourself”, in the new one its “woman can’t do what men can do, but some can, if they have ~magic~, but only if they have ~magic~” 🤦‍♀️

[@juliamoriarty1918]

this movie was supposed to be “empowering” for women, right? well, as a woman, i’d like to say... it failed spectacularly. there’s nothing fun or charming about it, and nothing sticks with you like in the original. mulan and the rest of the characters have the personalities of cardboard here.

[@Grace-iv1ho]

It’s amazing how much this movie failed and actually ended up with a message that does the opposite of empower woman :/

[@raffelasssura3422]

Dont diss my cardboard homies like that

[@RandomPerson-zw2ze]

they are basically just soulless husks-

[@luislatinoman7055]

Imagine having a remake with an actual effort to be empowering, but in actuality the original version was far more inspiring without even giving a shit.

[@zimora4422]

Istg

[@annagarcia2496]

“This Movie is supposed to be more realistic and mature” Animated movie literally has more blood

[@nathan8750]

Disney said no to a talking dragon to be realistic, okay fine i get it, BUT THEY PUT A WITCH THAT TURNS INTO A HAWK AND BATS AND OTHER PEOPLE? cmon now that's sum BS mushu was my favorite character

[@skye-chor]

They really try hard to please Chinese market lol

[@albertoromero5075]

your channel is even worse than clownfish tv!!!!!!

[@rubyy.7374]

skye chor Funny because all the writers.... Weren’t Chinese.

[@WikiHL]

Well, those don't necessary go hand on hand, but animated Mulan would be just as mature with or without blood

[@user-hb4zz4gh5e]

Dragons are too unrealistic, but a phoenix and witch-sorceress aren’t?

[@katthunter6561]

Ikr? Look at what Game of Thrones did with their dragons and tell me multiBILLION dollar Disney can't do better. They just... It just... No.

[@Dr.Oofers]

I guess maybe it’s either because: A. They thought Eastern dragons would be confusing since many Eastern countries adopted the same design of the dragon (only country I can think of would be Japan). Or B. This production team couldn’t animate or incorporate the small dragon (forgot his name). Where they weren’t able to (or didn’t bother to) animate the dragon climbing over things or having him interact things in the real world. Either way, it’s pretty disappointing and nonsensical that the dragon from the original isn’t in the remake, yet add a witch and a Phoenix despite the two being unrealistic. Edit: apparently it’s because the animated mulan movie depicted dragon(s) as dumb and clumsy instead of wise. Which is ‘offensive’ to the culture. Even though the remake could have easily made the dragon much more wise instead of it being clumsy in the original.

[@AHufflepuffAndASwiftie]

EXACTLY!!!

[@sslushies204]

That's exactly what I'm thinking!! ._.

[@gabrielraraujo9001]

From what I've heard about this movie, they didn't have dragons because the way the animation depicted dragons was dumb and offensive to the culture. Not because it was unrealistic

[@chocolateaddictedartist5924]

This movie is basically saying: 'girls, you don't have to grow, change, and learn from your mistakes as long as you're badass. And just to be clear, only badass women can be heroines.'

[@thedoodlianfella]

Congrats! You successfully described the Disney version of brainrot!

[@AverageHandle_]

This is like comparing Ratatoing to Ratatouille

[@rinmatsuoka4452]

ratatoing 😂😂😂 that scarred me

[@IcyDiamond]

Precisely

[@ffiiggyy]

@@IcyDiamond Oh hey! I did not know you watch his videos. Hiiiii

[@jpHasABadHandle]

There was a sequel?!

[@clartblart3266]

@@jpHasABadHandle No,it's a shitty rip off Except it's actually probably not a rip off and it's probably juat trying to trick people into buying it cause they it's Ratatouille.

[@suckit1335]

If you want a movie that’s actually good, adult and loyal to the original story, just watch Mulan: Rise of Warrior

[@FlareJollyDragoness]

Thank you.

[@bluenpurple2328]

Thanks man

[@droggietan6190]

I never regretted buying the blu-ray :)

[@ipod342gmailcom]

You can actually watch Mulan: Rise of the warrior on YT!! I watched it last night and its a wonderful film, it has English subtitles only tho. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpuUkoqZhtV0haM

[@dandansoysauce8762]

Yeah my dad recommended it as soon as we finished watching this trash

[@rachel-db4kx]

The CGI is also so bad, that spider in the tea scene was so fake looking and all of Mulan’s skills when she jumps on the roof and catches the cups looks so fake it hurts me

[@aquaticdeer4272]

Ikr. From a company like disney i would expect a shit ton of better acting and CGI

[@cocoroach_ok]

Probably because of this movie's color palette. I don't watch it, but Mulan 2020's color palette is kinda vibrant, warm reddish without that much of dark/shadow. There are reasons why most CG looks good at the theatre or dark places.

[@bellmsky]

that phoenix is a freaking disaster ...

[@MrMoron-qn5rx]

@@bellmsky i genuanly thought that schraf was making a joke and the cam would pan down to show a kid with a kite holder.

[@chapablo]

@@cocoroach_ok counterpoint: Mad Max: Fury Road. See also: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Effects AND Wire-Fu mostly in broad daylight.

[@jovanaraichel]

Actual reactions of me during the movie Before I watched: Omg Im so excited...I wanna see how Mushu will look in cgi! During: - who is this lady? - Where is mushu? Im sure he will come - who the hell is this guy? Where is shang..is shang the old guy? - finally we are getting mushu...wait...its a crusty paper pheonix - where the hell is shang?!! - no further comments cuz i couldn't complete the film....

[@Jell_DoesStuff]

I had the same reactions XD

[@IncorrectHB]

Seeing how Mulan is like, one of, if not, the strongest Disney princess, this really dulls down that fact. Giving her chi just makes her overpowered. What really made her a great woman was the fact that she trained hard to protect those she loved and her home. All of the original princesses are better for empowering woman than what is current on screens today. Even the more girly girl ones have better messages.

[@celestialgardens4101]

i agree, with the whole her being born with powers gives me a "i wish i can be her" not a "if i work hard like her, i will be her"

[@odeiomine]

Back then being strong meant overcoming hurdles you previously couldn't, nowadays it means getting everything handed to you on a silver platter and make it look like you earned it.

[@cloudywithclouds]

Celeste CC i agree. I had high hopes. Mulan is my favourite disney movie, And it crumbled and died. But also GOD I WANT A BLACK COFFEE

[@Sebastian-ig3lt]

I bet u didnt watch till the end haha but i wonder why so many likes. Truth is 85% who hates this movie havenot yet watched it

[@IncorrectHB]

@@Sebastian-ig3lt i haven't watched the movie, but I know that she has chi and I have seen some clips of Mulan, and my point still stands (I don't "hate" it because i haven't seen it, but i know I wont like it because I only like a select few of the live action remakes). But no for once I watched the entire video before commenting lol

[@alexandriantria5695]

"now all of youtube knows this movie is terrible."

[@demonminer8093]

"Perfect"

[@spooderman6312]

Now it will bomb like it should

[@owennoga352]

Alexandrian Tria I wish I could like this twice

[@zachsutton9866]

"Shit"

[@fakhriluthfi9816]

How many youtuber it take to send a message

[@miniluv7330]

Disney: Gets rid of Mushu for not being realistic enough Also Disney: hErE, hAvE A pHoENiX aNd a ShAPeShIFtiNG wITcH

[@heihogreenzx4704]

As the person who gives this the 100th like: Mushu, Shang, Yao, Ling, Chien-Po, and Mulan being a well done protagonist who becomes better through her determination - Not realistic enough. Wall-running Ninjas (Ninjas being a JAPANESE thing), Shapeshifting bird-witch, a Phoenix that looks like a fucking dollar store piñata, and making Mulan into a Mary Sue and trying to excuse it with Chi magic - Apparently realistic. I guess, according to Disney’s logic, we’re living in a fantasy world.

[@MariOmor1]

And Mulan has chi powers

[@drby163]

​@@heihogreenzx4704 also it's hilarious how they wanted their money makers, the Chinese audience, to like this movie so they made it "more focused on Chinese culture" than the original but for ex the Phoenix, ot didn't match the Chinese interpretation at all but more on the Egyptian one, the fact that people in China also hated this movie and the fact that it's even less culturally accurate than the original is just something else

[@dustymcwari4468]

@@heihogreenzx4704 and they all grew stronger because they all supported each other, they went from weak misfits to a powerful force when they stopped fighting and started working as a team Whereas in this movie, everyone else just exists and is irrelevant, and Mulan is already perfect since she was a little girl, all she does is just obey when to use her powers, and being a model soldier

[@yukishiro3287]

​@@heihogreenzx4704 the way they even use the so-called "chi" is completely wrong because it's a reference to blood circulation. Makes me want to bang my head for the writers to say that "you must be honest" or smth along the lines. It pisses me off

[@smaay]

I find it so funny that Disney took out elements like Mushu for being " unrealistic and disrespectful to Chinese culture" but one of chinese people's favorite western (animated) movies is Kung Fu Panda, a movie about kung-fu fighting anthropomorphic animals with several stereotypes about chinese culture.

[@Draven-d2s]

and the fact that kung fu panda portrayed Chinese culture better than actual china at the time really says something,

[@SirToaster9330]

@@Draven-d2s Japan has made better representations of Sun Wukong than China ever did, and that's surprising considering the Anti-Chinese sentiments in Japan.

[@Draven-d2s]

@@SirToaster9330 did not know that

[@snailthelostcow63]

@@SirToaster9330 I mean, they made Dynasty Warriors, like, 9 entries already.

[@imakerandomvideos8267]

“You may look like a beloved Disney movie. But you will never bring your fans honor!”

[@raneensaleh4795]

Exactly 💪🏽

[@missimperfectlyfine7]

i thought of zuko from ATLA when i read ‘honor’ lol

[@eavyeavy2864]

Because it is closer to the myth, not the one you watch in childhood.

[@ghostrangerz8273]

Eavy Eavy well apparently you’ve never heard the myth.

[@sophiaprocter1628]

Eavy Eavy the movie about a witch and a talking crow was more realistic to the real story of mulan?

[@kevintang9913]

Beloved Disney original film: *exists Disney: "I can milk you"

[@pizzatime.7030]

Sorry i think you got that wrong, i think you meant to say ''I WILL milk you''.

[@kevintang9913]

@@pizzatime.7030 XD So true

[@largeformatmaster2994]

Mustiboi Salman And Frozen. The sequel is so god-awful. It’s quite frankly one of, if not, the worst Disney movie I’ve ever seen. I know there’s probably worse, but that was just a stupid continuation of something that I bet didn’t need a sequel. Ralph Breaks the Internet was stupid, but at least it wasn’t trying to make me go absolutely insane (unless you count the stupidity of the movie that might make me insane of course) But still, Disney is just dead to me. I’ve had enough. I’m done.

[@spooderman6312]

@@largeformatmaster2994 my family and i were at the movie theater and we Paid a lot to watch it. We did a vote. I wanted a good movie, and they asked for garbage. Guess which. Movie won the vote.

[@lulin2546]

funny markiplier reference but also greedy company bleh

[@aiden9576]

At least KIDS BOP has parodies of some good music. This is just kids bop without music

[@nightynightlayla374]

Kids Bop is still a thing? How many albums has it put out?

[@hnichole]

"This crosses the line from bad to insulting." Could not have said it any better myself, this is a slap in the face to all the original movie stood for.

[@nahuelgioia4177]

The funniest part out of all of this: The whole point of the changes, was because they wanted the movie to do really well in China, and they felt that they should make the movie more loyal to the original legend Mulan was based of. Not only apparently it's not more loyal to the source, but seemingly Disney didn't think of including any Chinese person on the creative team of the movie they made to appeal to the Chinese market. And the movie is bombing and getting panned in China. Edit: To be entirely fair, I don't think my dumb ass can make that much fun of Disney executives for bad decisions when, just one day after watching videos tell me how useful it can be to leave comments that get lots of likes in the videos of bigger creators, I post a comment like this using my personal-use channel instead of the one I want to become a youtuber with.

[@sambradley9091]

Wh--so their solution to making it more based on the original legend was to be even more inaccurate about Chinese culture?

[@1000OtherFoxes]

"they wanted the movie to do really well in China" lol well disney is heavily funded by chinese...

[@cuppajj]

F in the chat

[@TheAdampl12]

Good

[@mitchellalexander9162]

"The Harder You Try, The Harder You Fail' -Common Daoist Teachings

[@benjulc9271]

I'm amazed, the animated version is the most realistic one. AND THAT ONE HAD A DRAGON.

[@denises9120]

Ironic

[@AndrewsMagicandMore]

Reality is Unrealistic, to quote TV Tropes

[@CHECKthisvid]

Eddie-murphy-laugh.wav

[@gix.y]

a TALKING dragon!!

[@coolerrocket]

@@gix.y are you telling me that talking dragons that sound like Eddie Murphy aren't real?

[@thecloudwyrm7966]

Most of these terrible live action movies wouldn't be created if people just acknowledged that animation isn't inferior to live action. Animation is its own medium with which you can tell amazing stories! It isn't something to be avoided.

[@AnaGarcia-em7ir]

So true, but sadly people have already being brainwashed, especially by tv, to think that animation is always, ALWAYS, for kids. My parents can't watch animation, or if they do, they will think is childish, I can give them something like Castlevania and, just seeing a frame, will say child stuff. It's sad, but it seems is the direction we are going :c

[@zyral.f.6938]

Yes, or thought of as a inferior replacement until so-called lifelike fx can be reproduced as justification for using real humans in remakes. (See every superhero cartoon being remade in the last few decades.) Animation is its own unique art form created by myriad artists deserving respect unconnected to any other medium by comparison.

[@candicehoneycutt4318]

And that voice actors are better for animated films. It's literally their job. Part of the reason these remakes bomb is celebrity casting. They're casting people who can't voice act to save their lives.

[@elenavitkovska1434]

They just want to make money, not a statement. I guess

[@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr]

Carter Watts Agreed.

[@KaiKrimson56]

3:58 So, basically Mulan's Girl Goku but without the effort he put into getting strong and the Witch is discount Bayonetta?

[@RysGameZ]

Hold up, Goku trained for the power he had (Mostly, and even than he admitted to everyone around him that he wishes to train and fight with his own power and hates shortcuts.), has an actual character in the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z and barely wins any of his fights by himself in Dragon Ball, Z or Super. Meanwhile, Live action Mulan has no character, wins every single fight and Is a complete Marry Sue.

[@jocelantonettetenoc5996]

No, Mulan is Chinese Mary Sue

[@Anonymous.User.-lm3ri]

Difference is gokus strenght was funny and played for simple action since the battles weren't always the point. And when battling did become the point he actually worked and trained to reach new levels of power. Mulan can just do whatever because shes a woman main character in a disney property. I cant deny the Bayonetta thing tho since i dont play Bayonetta

[@captloki13]

Disney: We will remake Mulan with a realistic tone Also Disney: Here's a magical witch!

[@Set2Seth]

Also ALSO Disney: Hey moltres exists here :D

[@ipaunski]

The witch was the best character lmaoooo

[@spooderman6312]

also also ALSO disney: WITH thE HElP Of HeR magiCALL PHeoNIx PoKeMoN

[@essejay7952]

I mean a witch existing in the time isn't dumb but adding her to the story and making her a bird was very retarded

[@an8strengthkobold360]

@@essejay7952 also why a witch isn't that a very western thing? There has to be an equivalent of some sort?

[@gints2766]

The movie has the gall to force this narrative where “women are valuable in war too... BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE THE CHOSEN ONE BORN WITH SOME ABILITY”. How... insulting. Women are looked down on the whole movie so you think the message in the end will change that, but because Mulan doesn’t represent women as a whole, it fucking doesn’t. The movie ends with you wondering what the fuck would have happened if Mulan wasnt the chosen Naruto Skywalker chi master. In the animated version, she grew as a warrior along with the others, she wasn’t a warrior until she had to be to save her father, and she subverted what the others considered as worthless to battle, femininity, but her lack of brute force strength was made up for with strategy and quick thinking. The movies tRIES to make her seem really strategic but it fails. I mean, after teleporting behind the enemy, even if they really thought there were enemies behind them, they should have defended their trebuchets and kept on the attack that was taking out hundreds, not suddenly have the worst aim of the dynasty and aim behind the enemy. Maybe her speech during the campfire scene was supposed to be like leadership quality? All she said was “I will protect you,” which is a mute sentiment when you’re the chosen one and can literally take out an army of it we’re just you. This scene, where her hands are shaking in fear, would have been way more powerful if she wasn’t already a battle master compared to the others.

[@robandcammbg3168]

nArUtO sKyWaLkEr. So true though-

[@brucewayne3295]

I know it's insane. "You go girl... but only if you have magic powers" because apparently that's the only way you can keep up with men. Turned a movie with a powerful feminist message onto the opposite

[@frankwest5388]

If we consider the possible consequences of the actions of Mulan in the cartoon and the live action, in terms of women in the military, this is what would happen. Cartoon. The army has seen the value of a woman and might experiment with more female soldiers, opening up the chance for women everywhere to bring honor in war. Live action. Every girl with chi will get kidnapped and force indoctrinated into joining the army, because they are too dangerous to be left unchecked. While for every other woman nothing changes. Girl power

[@devo076]

lol you're worried about the social value of a movie made to cater to the Chinese? Worry about all those muslim Uyghuys who are being forced into concentration camps and forcibly 'reprogrammed'. I think they got it FAR worse than you, bro.

[@sammy-xd4ds]

This movie is like: *women can be good fighters and do anything a man can! As long as you have super powers or you are a sorcerer or some shit if you normal than you cant do shit*

[@rumsand]

"Let's make this more accurate to the actual mulan story!" Proceeds to add a witch, which *isn't* in the actual tale.

[@BeautifulObscurity]

And also not really a thing in Chinese folklore in general.

[@lavii3355]

They added a WITCH

[@giftedunderachiever5919]

Has anyone read the actual tale? Because I have, and there’s very little in it. It’s not an epic novel. It’s a ballad. It goes roughly like this: “There’s a war. My father has no sons. I’ll go to war. We won. The Emperor offers me a promotion. I go home instead. After 12 years, you didn’t know I was a woman.” There’s nothing beyond the barest bones of a story, and only three characters are mentioned.

[@hinaw0w395]

@@giftedunderachiever5919 12 years? I thought in the og they found out Mulan was a woman pretty quickly. Guess I was wrong lmao

[@midgetmarshmallow3357]

@@hinaw0w395 yeah, apparently she got promoted 10 ranks and went 12 years undetected as a woman. They only found out once they visited her home and saw her in make-up and a dress. Part of Mulan's ballad was talking about how differences may exist between men and women, but in the end, when they are living and fighting side by side, why do those differences matter? Something along those lines :)

[@jordanthompson6065]

Animated Mulan: you can be strong no matter who you are. Live action "Mulan": woman good men bad and stinky

[@edibleandsentientautomobil5396]

Woman stronk with superpowers

[@jessicapinkman-hd4bw]

basically it

[@UnsightlyComplightly]

Fun Fact: This movie is 30 DOLLARS

[@rainbowdragonflies1134]

For this, I wouldn't pay $1.50.

[@alexanderwhite7678]

@@rainbowdragonflies1134 for this I wouldn't be a buck fifty.

[@davidtheboy448]

And don't forget that you have to stay subscribed to Disney+ in order to even watch it

[@FSportuguese]

Me laughing because i watched this movie online for free,😂😂😂😂

[@culterwaleddy]

*Pirates of the Caribbean theme plays* YOU MEAN FREE.

[@miau3615]

This movie sucks Disney: So you want Phineas & Ferb 2d dimension live action without perry?

[@mottdropsie]

I'm going to get violently ill in my bathroom now.

[@dinoextreme632]

Don't dare you do that, I swear if they do I will go to disney headquarters and put six bombs per square inch and make them sxplode with everyone inside.

[@Muksss]

DINOEXTREME Origin of a Serial Killer right here

[@prosperosmoon]

I was not fine without Mushu, where's my homeboy

[@colbyhill-nixon6815]

MIAU :3 Hey, where's Perry? The movie

[@chirililli5527]

I feel like the animated Mulan movie feels more realistic than the real life movie.🧐

[@mqrvelle2099]

🤔

[@lindsay16]

😯

[@fluxcapacitorproductions2064]

Yeah I definitely agree with you

[@udaweis]

😬

[@user-pj4rg5ol8w]

Ironic isn't it

[@The_Sunny_One]

This remaking process by Disney is starting to feel insulting. I image them sitting in chairs around a table talking about their plans to make the next billion dollars they don’t need and it goes like “So we haven’t made a Mulan remake yet? What do y’all think?” And the next guy goes, “Yea but I’m bored of that let’s see how much we can get away with before there is an actual outcry!” And another rich dude is like “Yea let’s not give it music!” “Let’s not even bother to give it heart,” “Let’s not care really about cast or performance!” “Let’s take as many characters out as possible while still being able to pass it off as a remake!” And they did and we got this and it’s a mockery

[@bandito6678]

I was so confused how Mulan could run on walls... then I realized Isaac Newton hasn’t invented gravity yet

[@reptilesceptile1035]

Lmaooooooooo

[@reptilesceptile1035]

@@ОгњенБојичић r/whoosh

[@gamelandmaster3680]

Okay, you got me there. xD

[@reptilesceptile1035]

I think we can all see what happened and why this guy deleted his comment

[@lacountess]

It makes me think they were more trying to make the next “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” than a remake of Mulan.

[@Hawkatana]

I don't think I've seen Schaff this angry. Like, *ever.*

[@albertoandroidain]

He was nicer to Shrek the Third and Shark Tale. Heck, I don't think his Ralph Breaks the Internet rant was this harsh

[@daniella6575]

like he said, it literally felt like an insult to the original movie. I more than understand his anger towards this honestly completely unnecessary garbage.

[@POP-nm1ix]

Damn, damn. But then again this is a live action, what did he expect?

[@chunchunmaru5761]

I’ve seen him this angry in Rise of Skywalker review

[@Crazy-77]

He sounds like a white privileged kid. I saw it and it was better than the cartoon. I even thought the Mushu was just a out of place character. 🤦🏻‍♂️ He probably just needs a new hobby. 🤣

[@yurikimss]

The main reason I hated it because the original movie was about how anyone can reach their goals with hard work and determination. But the live-action is basically saying oh your only special if you born special. Since it's about how her "chi" is strong which is something you're born with that literally erases the point of the determination and hard work of anybody regardless of gender, race, etc.

[@sweetnsour3693]

EXACTLY

[@yurikimss]

Also they did the whole we are removing mushu because of cultural appropriation which i loved mushu he was the comedic guy. And I understand that it is racist. But then (correct me if im wrong) but Chi isn’t an actual thing in Chinese culture from a review i saw from a Chinese KZbinr. all of the clothing designers, makeup artist, directors, didnt have actual chinese people and if there was i dont think they were of much significance. Apparently they exaggerated the chinese makeup and the history and everything is kinda messed up. Idk im just really pissed because Mulan was kind of my idol growing up.

[@yurikimss]

Also apparently witches arent actually a thing in china and they just added western culture of “witches”

[@HiHi-fb5rf]

@@yurikimss you’re right! There can be “jing”s (精), lots of Chinese movies imply that, it’s kinda like a mythological cursed spirt. It was beyond frustrating to see them try to stuff western culture in the movie when there wasn’t a need for it in the first place.

[@yurikimss]

@@HiHi-fb5rf ikr at least Mushu was funny the witch has no use 😐

[@Game_Erica]

The two scenes I feel they failed the most are training scene and the village scene. First the training scene, in the original, we see our cast of characters be really bad and them struggling. They're trying to improve, but Mulan is pretty much told to leave because she's falling behind everyone else's progress. So she decides to go for the arrow, realizing the proper technique is important not just pure determination. And by using her smarts, she gets the arrow. This marks a turning point and we see everyone actually becoming good! What did the live action do? Mulan walks up a hill with water and succeeds on her first try. She doesn't struggle, she uses her fucking magic powers. This is also very similar a task they did while training in the animated one, where everyone else was going just fine. BUT NOPE! This time Mulan is the one who succeeds while everyone else struggles. I don't think there's a single scene in this movie where she gets better at anything, everything just comes easy to her thanks to her chi powers. How do you expect me to root for her when she stays pretty much the same the entire movie??? Second, the village scene. In the original they're singing a happy song for fun, just for the song to cut when they find the village. We go from a bright cheery song, into a dark awful event. You see everyone taking it in, the destruction and loss of life. You feel the shock, the grief, you feel what the characters feel. And after this scene, they don't sing anymore. Things have changed and they need to take the war seriously. They found a girl worth fighting for when they were too late and found the lost doll of a girl who has lost her life. I'll be honest, I can't even remember the live action one beside from what was showm in the video. That's how lazy and boring it was. *How* do you go from a scene that sticks with you for years into a scene that is so worthless and not important you can't remember it at all? I hate this movie with a passion.

[@lmaosuni]

Mulan original was great not because she was strong, feminist or independent. But because of her growth. We got to see how she was the worst soldier, but she became better with her iconic friends who they butchered. I really hoped they brought that out.

[@vronji]

What I saw was the Women could be just as successful as men. Live action Mulan just took that message and threw it away, making that no everyone could keep up with men, but just a few select individuals.

[@mariajosefinasaporito5189]

Original Mulan was an awesome character. She had a motivation, she was a regular person who showed us that we could get better, she had a personality, she wasn't 100% invencible, she showed little girls that a woman fighting for a good reason was awesome, but 2019 Mulan? Oh yeah she has chi. That's it

[@tiruliru1189]

@@mariajosefinasaporito5189 This is a prime example of flanderization.

[@Theakritas_]

Yep, the original mulan's message is that women can be as good as men. The original mulan, she wasn't invisible, or gifted with magical, supernatural powers or something. The 2020 remake was just, well... all the opposite.

[@tohnic441]

not to mention the three male friends dressing up as women with no problems towards the end. the original was ironically more subversive of gender roles than most modern movies today

[@MaeArt725]

Honestly it’s kind of sad they gave Mulan powers and stuff in the remake. She definitely seemed more human and stuff in the animated one.

[@MaeArt725]

Freeswine07 pretty much yeah.

[@gwendolynstata3775]

Especially since one of the biggest messages in the original was that strict gender roles are damaging and that Mulan was just as capable as the men and that not giving her equal opportunities and respect just because she has bobs and vagene is stupid. But now it's like, "she literally needs superpowers to hold her own against an ordinary man" which is Yikes and Shitty.

[@MaeArt725]

Gwendolyn Stata we got to see her grow into a strong warrior, and now she doesn’t have to train because she has some powers? Sounds like bull, but alright.

[@chewingpeppers]

they changed literally everything, including her traits! mulan was clumsy, yet smart, kind and funny

[@MaeArt725]

Fe Jung and now she’s some almost superhero with perfect abilities?

[@Leelz247]

I’m almost overwhelmed by how much the internet hates this movie.

[@ihkeseteeietos5722]

fr there's like close to nothing to like in this movie

[@THE-STREET-HERO]

Well to be fair. Is not trolling. They got rid of so many things and promised so many others. And failed to deliver the ones promised and broke its promise and the main reason why they took away from the movie was the same thing its getting shade. "THE REALISM"

[@THE-STREET-HERO]

@@Sk8rGamingKei well. I watched it myself before watching the video just so I could have my own opinion. And the only thing the video did was confirm that I was not the only one that was disappointed and dissatisfied with the movie and the way it was produced.

[@mad_max21]

@@Sk8rGamingKei Found the commie.

[@ellaborate6673]

Levi Linden But you clicked on this video...

[@languagespotlight24]

As a Vietnamese, I would prefer they hadn't turned a great cartoon masterpiece like Mulan into an emulation of Chinese films like "Romance of the Three Kingdom". I feel surprisingly nostalgic of my childhood watching these films but without all the good elements that make these Chinese films better than the live-action.

[@jeanyeap4229]

I'm Chinese and my eyes started bleeding when her army commander favoured her over other soldiers. Soldiers fight as a unit, not as individuals. No matter how good you are, you're not going to be favoured. Also the historical inaccuracy just made me nope. Just sitting here and wondering how the heck I even sat through this movie.

[@theladyfausta]

That's something the original movie at least had an element of! You got to see all the soldiers slowly getting better and bond as a team, and they play a big part in the finale as well! This Mulan makes me want to gag because some executive decided that "strong female characters" sell without understanding what it even means. -___-

[@TheSecondVersion]

Yep. For example, the smallest unit in a Roman Legion that fought as a group was 80-100 people (a Century)

[@emilyzhang1600]

If they really wanted it to be accurate they should have had at least one chinese person in the crew 💀

[@femaleshuichi3715]

@@emilyzhang1600 ....what?

[@tatiana2696]

@@emilyzhang1600 Guuuuurl...

[@eclecticspaghetti]

Dear god this is the most pissed off I have ever heard Schaff. Can’t say I blame him.

[@matthewhunter1193]

Makes me interested in his upcoming Artemis Fowl video

[@pierrebegley2746]

Yeahhhh. And I couldn't agree more with him.

[@isaacgray2909]

He's more pissed for this movie than the TROS. Like damned.

[@ultimatewolfexists2378]

Thanks, Akechi!

[@randomyoutuberobot3247]

He was PISSED

[@issym1254]

Disney: We are inspiring girls, go girls! Also Disney: Makes a female character who has special abilities and doesn’t need to even try to succeed. Great job Disney! I feel like a very empowered strong feminist woman girl human!

[@blossom9876]

Same! It’s not like I would want to see this girl put all her effort into something she loves and succeeds that way!

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

No same. One of the reasons I love the original Mulan is the fact she wasn’t as strong as the other guys and that she had to prove Shang wrong in order to earn her place to stay. That was empowering. This Mulan is nothing like the original character.

[@ghost_cities]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 I know! The original movie wasn’t “realistic” or anything, but it felt attainable, like if I worked hard enough, I could find my place in a male-dominated space. This mulan is just magic and makes me feel inferior, like the only way to succeed is to be born extraordinary.

[@Inkanymby]

Your profile picture just makes this so much better

[@shaniadirstein3650]

1998 : Hard working, butt kicking female who trains along men and who starts off her training experience making mistakes but keeps working and trying and uses her smarts and self discipline to get better and improve.... Never gives up! 2020 : M A G I C

[@gunes.yapiyo.bisiler]

I love how he just stops censoring the swearing halfway through

[@SirToaster9330]

pretty in-character to the last movie, going from humorous and kiddy to dark and adult

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Disney is creatively dead. The management killed it, basically slaughtered it.

[@lemondigit7309]

I always expected changed the good 2d movies would be making them smooth and in 3d

[@natayleegivens1046]

I think that's just today's movies period. Creativity is dead, everything is remade or rebooted. It's truly sad.

[@lemondigit7309]

@@natayleegivens1046 Ik ☹️

[@sherreoz5399]

Yup every Disney movie after Moana is shit

[@lemondigit7309]

@@sherreoz5399 but beauty and the beast (live action) Is fine

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

I'll Make a Man Out of You is one of the best Disney songs ever created and they threw it out. Shame on them. They also made Mulan completely unrelatable

[@RemixedVoice]

I haven't seen the film but damn, that's brutal

[@marilynnguyen5887]

Especially when they made her born with talent 😐😐😐

[@xmascritter2383]

"Worse than Artemis Fowl" Wow, and I thought disney couldn't dissapoint me any more this year

[@maximeteppe7627]

he said Mulan was a little better, but not much than Artemis Fowl

[@IcyDiamond]

I haven’t seen Mulan nor Artemis Fowl but I liked Onward so that’s good

[@maximeteppe7627]

@@IcyDiamond Onwards was nice but it could have been so much more!

[@IcyDiamond]

Maxime Teppe how exactly?

[@lukethelegend9705]

Maxime Teppe onward was good, but not as good as previous Pixar stuff. I hope Soul will be better.

[@jacobcrader8059]

It also was filmed 2 miles away from one of many concentration camps, where they murder and torture prisoners that are there because they are from a certain ethnic group, and they thanked the people in charge of the province and the camp in the credits

[@2Trundle]

Now all of China knows you hate this movie. Schaffrillas: Perfect

[@emily-bg8cb]

*all of China hates this movie too

[@mr.kevin1209]

@@emily-bg8cb if that's true; then thank God for that

[@hansenyan6217]

@@mr.kevin1209 Chinese people watched mulan too.

[@fruiteapai1398]

Honk Kong is boycotting it 👁️👄👁️

[@mr.kevin1209]

@@hansenyan6217 darn it

[@speggehti]

one of my biggest grievances about this movie is that theyre being shit to their horses. i know it sounds weird but unlike in the animated version *those are real animals* so when "mulan" jumps down onto her horse, which could have taken several takes, she is actively hurting that horse. when they pull and yank on their reins they are hurting horses. when they just get on horses with no idea of horsemanship they give poor direction and confuse the horse. these animals have to suffer with riders who dont care about them or their well being and i dont think thats very poggers.

[@dfquartzidn6151]

I didn’t realize that man...There’s a lot that needs addressing here...

[@claracallejo2824]

Hello! I don't know how disney handled the production of the filn so I can't say accurately hwo *they* treated the horses. But horses in movies are trained horses that can fall in command and do much more! If it gives you a bit of relief, the animals in movies are treated with as much respect and care needed. Watching a bts of horse training for movies may clear some of your worries :)

[@speggehti]

@@claracallejo2824 i know they are being treated correctly normally but poor horsemanship and lack of understanding is stressful for horses. plus, my main grievance was about them pulling on the bit (metal object in a horse's soft mouth) and mulan jumping down onto her horse. Which both can cause pain. i just really hate when people who dont care about actual horsemanship ride horses because it's very stressful and confusing for horses to not get proper guidance from someone who knows how to be a leader. horses rely on that feeling of safety that comes from knowing they have someone to lead them and take them out of danger. i always find it weird that poor horsemanship is normalized, i rarely ever see someone who actual *understands* horses and meets their needs. its mostly a lot of people who, generally by no fault of their own, end up subconsciously abuses horses because they treat them how we treat dogs. but horses arent like dogs or cats. i hope you understand and dont take this as me attacking you i just want to spread *real* horsemanship.

[@dfquartzidn6151]

@@claracallejo2824 Ah, thank you. That sounds nice.

[@reptilesceptile1035]

U can also not cry

[@crimsonconsumescacti5086]

When a cricket in the animated version had more personality then the entire live-action remake:

[@nylajereb4523]

Yikes!

[@nylajereb4523]

Sad but true

[@antiarmadillosociety]

How dare you diss my favorite character like that.

[@crimsonconsumescacti5086]

@@antiarmadillosociety I’m not saying that the Cricket was bad

[@pooler57]

So did the horse

[@princesse0920]

When I was little, I learned from the original Mulan that ANYONE could succeed if they worked hard. Watching this, I learned that only people born with talents can succeed and the rest of us can never be as good.

[@Randomman55555]

Guy : Hey people are catching on that the remakes are remakes what should we do Other guy: how about we remove everything fun Guy: that’s a great idea

[@plumsparkles945]

😂

[@grumpymama5048]

Exactly.

[@AmurTiger]

Basically how the pitch meeting went

[@NikoCoy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKLZY4WVbMyggNE

[@peymcc3279]

i'm so sick of "strong independent women" characters that have no personality or traits besides being a woman

[@dfquartzidn6151]

Could you give some examples of well executed characters with the traits of ‘strong independent woman’ type?

[@annakrawczuk5221]

@@dfquartzidn6151 Mulan in the original, for one

[@One-pz3zk]

DFQuartz IDN Literally Mulan from the original

[@PolishGod1234]

@@dfquartzidn6151 Ciri from Witcher series.

[@CereDulce37]

@@dfquartzidn6151 Kill Bill

[@deebee69]

“I hope she’s a better person than she is an actress...OH WAIT.” I’m literally crying.

[@TravisBroski]

That actually shocked me.

[@robespierre2837]

@Winifred Eghrudje you know shes an american citizen right?

[@lookatthat2438]

@@robespierre2837 and even as an american citizen, actors, singers etc were expressing their 'support' through weibo only, those who went to twitter, instagram and beyond are the ones people are criticizing

[@robespierre2837]

@@lookatthat2438 yh

[@80s_graffiti]

@@robespierre2837 she still has property and family in China. If u think the ccp won't hurt them ur delusional.

[@davidnissim589]

I’m mad that they didn’t include Mushu the dragon, that was what made the animated one so special to me as a kid

[@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421]

2017: Beauty & The Beast is the worst live-action Disney remake 2019: Lion King is the worst live-action Disney remake 2020: Mulan is the worst live-action Disney remake I'm starting to see a cycle here

[@freshrimp9013]

They keep one upping themselves lol

[@mememologies7363]

I liked it-

[@ahmadkazan7994]

To go above and BEYOND!

[@JackMatthews1998]

Little Mermaid going to be next?

[@maddieray3668]

Me stanning the Aladdin remake and only the Aladdin remake and that is the hill I choose to die on.

[@Shadeadder]

why do the visuals remind me of that horrible avatar TLA movie

[@axiodile4623]

"What live-action ATLA movie?"

[@josephkoester3217]

We do not speak of that movie here

[@frickroll]

What do you mean? There is no ATLA movie.

[@aoncoina6765]

They're equally awful

[@thebagelwizard]

I didnt know there was a ATLA live action movie

[@evonnexu7460]

I'm sorry but the phoenix looks like a frickin kite

[@karlat4507]

Yes! You are absolutely correct!

[@sillygoosetaur]

“Phoenix”

[@karaniyanugroho4405]

no need to be sorry. those hate comments are facts

[@funnysonicman]

I seriously thought it was in the trailer lol

[@undeadladybug7723]

And then it doesn't even do anything. The freaking cricket in the original movie did more in the story.

[@dj_tnt2965]

This movie was not good. To make the witch a better villain, I would let it be that the witch is Mulan’s sister. The live-action remake replaced the grandmother with her sister. The reason why her sister, aka the witch would attack Mulan is that she felt rejected by her own family. Because of Mulan’s chi powers, her family gave all of the love and attention to Mulan instead of her. The family would look down to the sister because they believed that she wasn’t and never will be as good as Mulan. This would at the VERY LEAST make the villain a little bit better.