Coleman CT200U-EX Governor Zip Tie and Throttle Mod.

[@foxygrandpa1899]

I can watch this guy tell me how to do anything. His mullet is all the credentials I'll ever need , it's only a plus that he knows what he is talking about and has a good voice lol

[@SpicyBloodBean]

the casio wrist watch tells you he really knows his shit lol

[@jagman2962]

Business in the front party in the back!👍

[@UnlikelyHero]

You forgot 2 mods. The mullet gives you 5 HP and the Casio digital watch give another 5 HP.

[@ericcruz8307]

😂

[@DirtyGrubbs]

I’m a simple man I see a mullet and a mini bike I press like.

[@chaosofpeace5150]

I've had my coleman for 2 years now. Used your video a week after I brought 'er home. She been running like a champ ever since and I've only had to tighten the chain every couple weeks. Thanks man ^-^

[@johnnylongskin7866]

That "thank you...thank you.." after finding the screw is one of the most genuine thank yous a person can express or hear. Coleman needs to throw a magnet stick into the wrench kit 😂

[@DaOGVikingWolf]

It works!! The bike sounds better, WAY faster, went from 18mph to 30mph.... thank you so much for this

[@lightnation4772]

i just did it for mine it goes 32 i had a coleman’s ct200u

[@jlollboo]

Thumbs way up for the watch, nice choice. I ended up making an aluminum heat shield for ours. Helped out the kids a bunch.

[@jayceonnikolas5002]

instaBlaster.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

Lol Wild Piglets, cool. I bought 2 BT200x’s. HD colors Orange & black with white fenders that I stickered Hardly Davidson. Stock 20 mph via GPS on flat road with 220 pound rider. Did throttle screw went 25 mph. Drilled throttle arm hole out on far edge & moved spring 32 mph. Then governor zip tie, $20 stock carb replacement with .038 jet, cheap header muffler & cone filter, 38 mph but seems like clutch slip revved TOO high. So I bought the CVT IE the best mod. Accelerates better, drops rpms, and ran 42 mph on flat road. The only expensive mod but worth it. Then added digital tach, LED tail light, 8 degree timing key, 9 tooth front sprocket, 18 lb valve springs IE all cheap mods. Runs 45 mph on flat road at 4,800 rpms & 48 mph down a grade at 5,200 rpms. Stock cam / motor has now made max power but it sounds and feels solid & reliable likely in part due to valve springs. The stock 10 tooth front sprocket plus a 60 tooth rear sprocket (requires chain) to lower gearing a little more should pick up a little more acceleration and maybe 2 mph but at a lil more rpm IE likely max safe rpm (with 18 lb springs) for stock cast rod & fly wheel. Just my experience & thoughts. Have fun that’s what mini bikes are for. And yeah 35 cruising 45 top speed fast enough on these things. Front brakes being next mod.

[@Deucealive75]

38 MPH...Was this with the stock gearing and valve springs? That would be pretty high RPM. The stock springs should be good to at least 5400. But at 38 MPH you would have been close to 7K RPM. Wow. But I agree the CVT is hands down a must for these Coleman 200's. All you really need is a stage 1 kit and a CVT. Any governor manipulation things like zip ties and governor removal are not even necessary.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

If stock they govern around 3,600 as I’ve read and people have gotten 33 mph with the stock epa carb, governor & springs which I’ve read then I doubt 38 mph (stock sprockets) is 7k. Doubt the online mini bike calculator would show that either but as mentioned it was spinning hard so I invested in the CVT. I was told by GPS that the weak stock springs are only good to 5k. With 9/50 sprockets (5.55-1 final drive ratio) I see 4800 on a flat & 5200 down a small grade. I plan to use 10/60 sprockets for 6.00-1. That will get me more acceleration plus maybe 2 mph on a flat at around 5,000 rpm and what 5400/5500 down a hill. By then I will really feel the springs were cheap insurance for only a few bucks & my time. Haven’t searched for a good mini bike forum yet. Do you know of any?

[@Deucealive75]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 GPS saying that they are only good to 5K are just covering themselves and they are in the business to sell as many 18 lb springs as possible. People regularly run these bikes 30-32 mph on stock springs. That's 5500+ RPM with stock gearing. My CL1 original cam calls for a target (max) RPM of 5800, with stock springs. Yeah you can use 18 lb springs, it's just that I wouldn't because I will not be spending any time in between 5500 and 7K RPM. My engine won't see 5800 but 5500 would be nice. Probably more like 5200 max. I'm running a mainly stock engine with 9/60 tooth on my 200U. I never even had the bike at top speed but have gotten 4500 RPM. That was around 26 or 27 MPH. I have a tach that can recall max RPM after the ride is over. When I got that RPM it sounded like the belt was just starting to shift when I backed off the throttle. The speed calcs do say 7000 RPM makes 39 MPH. You have to be sure to use 19 inch tire and 10/1 gearing. At one point someone did the math and figured 181.7 RPM for every 1 mph on these Colemans, with the stock jackshaft and tires. A pretty good mini bike forum I look at is OldMiniBikes dot com

[@lkoz5800]

Zippy tie hmmm why does it piss my off when he says it like that lmao 🤣

[@helmesnick79]

Love the simple mods and loving the Casio calculator watch brother

[@firebat128]

Throttle and Gov mod complete! Looooove this little toy! Thanks a lot for the valuable info!

[@mikeschneider5719]

How’s it running for you? Thinking about doing these mods once I get my bike

[@user-ot7dr6no4r]

God-O-Mighty this Guy is brilliant! Awesome zip tie mod!

[@shallnotbeinfringedamerica1683]

That's my boy...finds a 4 mm long screw amongst hundreds of Pebbles in a matter of seconds and doesn't miss a beat on his video

[@juliansdiamonds]

Thank you so much! That's all we really need is just a little bit more top in it is just a little bit more top end than 19 miles an hour! If this takes me to if this takes me to 30, I'd be absolutely satisfied!

[@stacksmel7376]

Tyvm brotha just did this to my Coleman as well goes around 30-35mph appreciate the advice and the help

[@FinesseTravels]

Did everything including making holes int the air filter box. got it up to 30 mph. Thank you so much!!! Bike is a blast now

[@WalkHard1]

When you found the screw and said and whispered and thank you yep I've said that hundreds of times lol

[@michaelhahn3064]

Watched probably 20 vids before i got to this one. Very well done Mr. Mullet

[@jayhouston1614]

This is only video that makes sense. Seriously! Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@johncarterfrmsk]

Thank you sir you made me go from 20 to 32-35

[@Th3P3RS3US]

just did this on my Realtree RT100. went from 26 top speed (i already removed the governor screw) to 36 MPH. thank you thank you thank you

[@ARCavingandOutdoors]

I installed a torque converter on my sons mini bike over the weekend with a predator 212. Thing rips now. I'd prefer a torque converter over a centrifugal clutch. Much more power and gives you plenty of power to climb hills. He has the exact model as you do. I painted it blue and put nice blue handle grips on their with a high performance throttle housing. Putting other mods on it this week. But I don't plan on removing the governor. It'll go plenty fast as is.

[@nobodyspecialdotorgrichard5971]

Got a link to the torque converter you can share? Thanks!

[@patriciaeaton-up4yj]

What the top speed

[@entertain4me73]

You have your front wheel on backwards! The deep dish side goes on the left in order to center the wheel. The tire is marked with an arrow indicating the proper direction of rotation.

[@oilfieldtrash08]

He said the "R ..word" 😆

[@xaviermccloud4586]

SOMEBODY should tell the truth lol.

[@arkalec9060]

Thanks a million runs great now.

[@PETERLINNAH]

You are one sensible dude. I think the same way.

[@bigfootaintreal5454]

Thanks for the tip ! I bought myself the same model you have. Bought my wife the RB200 . Love them both ! And your mod's helped us get more for our money.

[@TechMechRandom]

I bent the throttle stop tab down on mine when I first got it and it added 8.2 MPH giving it a total of 28.2 MPH. I will need to swap the fuel jet because OEM doesn't keep the fuel flowing efficiently.

[@hillbillybobby8708]

Probably the greatest video ever. I mean like it's just reasonable to think that way. If you want a fast race bike pay a couple extra bucks for one. But I dunno that's just the way I think too. Great video 🤠👍 got my subscription.

[@starsoldier3643]

Just bought a bt200x-b love this bike got a straight pipe and muffler a tach some wrap for the muffler (black) but haven't needed it yet the exhaust is turning a nice blue color. And the back rack. So fun the rack is still to show suppose to be today.

[@claytonking101]

I believe that you may want to review the zip tie portion once again. If done as instructed in the video (throttle wide open) the governor still fully engages. If the zip tie were to be applied when the spring was not stretched (throttle closed) it would keep the governor arm from activating. Otherwise a great video and I'm loving this channel! Your vids are very entertaining.

[@PBreezyify]

I've seen people juice these up to nearly 60mph. All I have to say is FUCK THAT. I would not feel safe past 35.

[@savagesooner4891]

This worked perfectly! Thanks bro 😎

[@Botulism_is_real]

Thank you this saved me so much time cause I almost ripped the entire engine apart to take out the governor and now I don't have to do that so thank you

[@phillipcarpenter5848]

That is a pretty simple mod but if you want get some real increase in speed with out spending a lot of money or time is to remove the Jack shaft assembly then you take and flip the centrifugal clutch around then you add a few more links to the drive chain and it went from a speed of twenty mph to a little over 60 mph!!! O by the way I did have to put a bolt and washer in the end of the shaft to keep the clutch from coming off

[@Deucealive75]

Yeah for street riding but that gearing would be horrible for slow speed trail riding. And you would never make it up hills on the trails.

[@brockly2012]

Best video about these bikes, very good explanation and tutorial. I love it. Thank you

[@PBreezyify]

TOP SHELF MULLET!

[@yourfactstory]

Thanks Johnny ! !

[@crackawood]

Hey Johnny, I was watching this other guy do the zip-tie on the spring trick and he said you shouldn't do it unless you install 18lb valve springs first. He didn't have a mullet so I didn't trust him as much, so what's your opinion on the valve springs?

[@JohnnyMullet]

If you REMOVE the governor, then you need to update the springs.

[@JohnnyMullet]

@T Ferguson The zip tie mod actually allows the governor to kick in, but keeps it below the higher RPM's of no governor where heavier springs are required.

[@brentstrong2568]

Awesome video jhonney ! Keep up the great videos man.

[@83thane11]

Worked great got an extra 8-9 mph more, now at 28 mph

[@Troygehring]

Thanks for the great video mr mullet, man do I want the RAD exhaust pipe!

[@bikelife1098]

My mans mullet game is strongggg 💪🏽

[@xClyptox]

Awesome info with some good advise.

[@karlschwab6437]

These two mods for more engine RPM is a BAD idea on a stock engine! My grandson bought a used CT200U-EX that was not running as it had no spark. When I got into it, I found these two mods were don't, causing the engine to increase its rated RPM, which inturn, caused the ignition magnet that was glued on, to come off of the flywheel. When this happened, the ignition coil and its mounting posts on the engine, destroyed! Now, there is no way to mount a replacement coil! Basically now, the engine is scrap because of this mod on a crappy flywheel design!

[@Deucealive75]

Sure it's a bad idea but people just want more speed without spending the money and taking the time to do it right. 6000 RPM just to do 32-33 MPH is pretty funny. There's nothing wrong with the flywheel design and will never break at the 3600 RPM these engines were designed to run.

[@jacksonwheel1464]

howdy from Cincinnati

[@JamesKing-gu7ho]

i zip tied my bike without having to take the tank off with some needle nose pliers to grab the zip tie after it was in, then i adjusted the throttle screw so that i didn't over rev

[@JamesKing-gu7ho]

@Tito 213 nope i just turned the throttle screw down so that it doesn't redline

[@xbigbobsagetx]

Nice! I don’t understand how a zip tie that’s loser then the spring keeps the governor from engaging. I took mine apart and rewatched your video ten times and did the zip tie but didn’t understand the function.

[@JohnnyMullet]

The zip tie stops the spring from stretching which in turn stops it from pulling back on the throttle. The governor works backwards from the throttle.

[@xbigbobsagetx]

@@JohnnyMullet but the zip tie isn’t keeping the spring from expanding right? Just making it slightly off so it doesn’t engage the Governor? Thanks for the video it’s by far the easiest trick for this bike

[@sixwillwin]

@@JohnnyMullet but you have the throttle wide open, so the spring is already streched as far as it will go. ??? Wide open throttle and you still have play in the zip tie.I can see where the other zip tie mod, where they pull the zip tie tighter and actually stop the spring from streching, but i dont see where yours is doing anything at all. I just moved the spring all the way to the outermost hole on the arm and I'm at 28 MPH. Thanks, curious to hear your answer

[@rickster4188]

I’m confused after reading the comments and no response? How does the zip tie work if spring is already stretched Max?

[@StansWorld]

the tie goes thru and around the spring so it cant expand. its like removing the spring

[@justaperson3641]

Great video. Thanks friend. Very easy explained and kind

[@StansWorld]

Yall really should just take it out and fix it right.. also If you start Cranking max RPM on that engine with stock fly wheel it will sling off the Magnet... Happen to mine and almost came thru the fan housing that would have hurt anyway mine now has billet flywheel. Becareful doing things like this seems simple fun,.. but can be dangerous....

[@cuttysark1983]

I very much enjoy 😊 thanks man

[@vinnyvinson]

People overdo shit. Great rant at the beginning . Practical is cool

[@mannysablan4433]

Great advice on mods👍

[@phuckthat1611]

Dam, it actually works, thank you !

[@andrewdowney760]

Why didnt you move the governer wire over when you did the zip tie? There are 4 holes to pick from.

[@canyonhaynes493]

You had me untill you said I didn't need to go 50 on my mini.

[@chitownbangin]

lol

[@theoldfartschannel3692]

He lost me when he suggested that fully removing the governor, installing a safer billet rod and racing flywheel is "full retard" while zip tying the governor was retaining reliability. Insane.

[@Deucealive75]

@@theoldfartschannel3692 For those of us that actually know these engines, zip tying the governor is "full retard".

[@GreyYZ125]

Thanks so much my man! Works really good

[@c.d.w.3944]

I love your hair.

[@shambles3458]

What are the chances the flywheel or billet rod explodes And hurts me using this trick?

[@jamesstillgames]

low

[@huntersS197]

THANK YOU MINE WENT FROM 19 to 28

[@konoscafe82]

Thx for help, this deserves a sub!

[@vinnyvinson]

People overdo shit. Great rant on full r.t mini Moto folks.

[@mariovelez7777]

Great video I learned a lot from it I think I'm going to go with the governor mod.. so I have the same bike that you have and at night time the headlamp is really dim as you give it gas it gets brighter but I'm on a completely dark world with no street lights I live out in Missouri.. I noticed you had that extra headlight can you tell me what kind it is and that I need an extra bracket for it and how would I connect it to the other headlight what I just split the wires and twist them together cover it with black electrical tape?

[@teshuvahemmet3036]

Thanks for the information

[@zanebryan]

bad ass exhaust pipe

[@timwamsley6231]

Thank you

[@destrored3921]

Great vid bro

[@user-yw6pk6mj8i]

I did this and it worked. I felt the engine heated up alot. Anything I can do to stop that? I haven't done an exhaust or put the holes in the air filter cover.

[@JohnnyMullet]

Don't run it at full speed constantly.

[@sandab767]

Hell yeah

[@TiberiuTiru]

Man you're restless :))

[@nberry3898]

Business in the front, Joe Dirt from the back.

[@Cdowg]

does it matter how tight is? if its is too tight will it cause problems

[@JNC1973]

I don't get it so the zip tie itself is not actuallt connected to anything ? It just sits loose inside of that spring ?

[@garfieldbarfield5202]

The spring on mine is very tight and stopped before the tab that stopped the throttle from going all the way

[@garfieldbarfield5202]

Any fixes?

[@cesarcabanillas9333]

Okay so you pull the throttle all the way open then put the zip tie on it? I know many people have already said this but doesn’t that just engage the governor?

[@samfriday3437]

Parts to remember 7:34. 5:04

[@cubegaming1941]

yes, thanks

[@snaphap69]

Nice video

[@BrickzSTM]

Is there an alternative bike with similar specs and frame etc? I've been looking for one for several months. I can't buy this in Europe/Germany over the normal sites because they don't offer international shipping and I can't find it on Ebay or Amazon etc...

[@dennisjohnparadis1078]

Hey could you explain to me how to wrap that ziptie on the gov spring, it's kinda hard to see

[@justinkozicki8521]

My screw wasn’t tac welded at all they must have forgot or I just got lucky 🍀

[@jasonsmith2618]

I did both hitting 33 mph plan on changing the springs to 18 lbs so i dont float the valves

[@chriscochran4564]

For the governor mod should I do the zip tie trick or I seen a video of a kid making his own linkage from the throttle straight to the carburetor butterfly ??

[@chrisjano466]

oki that means hello in Blackfoot! I'm from Canada 🇨🇦 after the mods you just did has ur bike been running good?

[@JohnnyMullet]

No problems.

[@zanebryan]

i have a question though, if i run the risk of exploding the governer wouldn't that be good cause then i have no governer Lol

[@JohnnyMullet]

If the governor explodes, then remove it and add bigger valve springs.

[@corywebb5537]

I understand the first modification, but the zip ties don't make any sense at all to me. Don't see why that would make a difference whatsoever. But thank you, I'm getting one tomorrow :-). And please tell me you're wearing a calculator watch from the 80s LOL

[@bwilcox8674]

What is the size of the bolt for the gas tank I lost mine and I need too I ow what size too buy

[@PBreezyify]

I don't really understand what function that zippy tie is serving. I know you say it prevents the throttle from being pulled back but if the zippy tie always has slack between the spring how is it doing anything at all lol... I'm going to do the mod anyway but I just don't get it.

[@nobodyspecialdotorgrichard5971]

Me either. He sort of explains it below and says it works backwards from the throttle but, I still don't understand how its actually helping!.

[@PhatBoy-qy1pl]

Hey Johnny im in sandusky im a bike boy with a ct200 I wanna be a part of the Ashtabula club lmk how I can get involved

[@bradleys.ink9327]

My bike fell over in the night and now there is oil coming from my exhaust and and my air filter is soaked. Do you know why that could be? It’s brand new

[@JohnnyMullet]

Put upright & let it settle. New filter & it will run.

[@josephdibona4744]

i hope someone can HELP ME I JUST BOUGHT CT200U-EX R THE CHAIN WAS TO TIGHT IT WAS MAKING KNOCKING SOUND SO I LOOSENED THE CHAIN IT HAS A 1/2 TO 3/4 PLAY. BUT IT STILL MAKES THE KNOCKING SOUND ALOT LESS THEN BEFOR.. IF I LOOSEN IT ANYMORE THE CHAIN WILL RUB AGAINST THE NUT THAT HOLDES THE CHAINGURD IN PLACE... SO I LIKE TO KNOW IS A LITTLE KNOCKING SOUND OK??? THANK U!!!

[@ethanjorg1234]

What upgrade the springs do u mean?

[@y4rdkat]

Isn't it likely that bypassing the governor like that will blow your engine?

[@asianassassin5082]

Not if you dont dog it

[@justindawn3428]

So I bent back that tab and ground down the set screw a little. They don't touch now but I'm still topping out at 20 mph. Is there something I'm missing?

[@PBreezyify]

Twist the throttle harder. When I cut my screw, I also tightened the throttle cable that was right behind it, mostly just because it was right there and easy to do. Not sure it did anything, but maybe experiment with that.

[@deankimberly5479]

The throttle cable spring is restricting it take it out I Put on another spring to do the work Be SHORE it still goes back to idle Block up the back wheel at first start be safe

[@josephdibona4744]

hello again. I tried the zip tie trick it went very fast. but at top speed the motor started chocking. when i turned the motor off it backfired. muffler was smocking.

[@JohnnyMullet]

I never run mine at top speed.

[@josephdibona4744]

@@JohnnyMullet thank U!!!!!!!!

[@windycityasmr154]

Good shit

[@Cdowg]

this guy is comical

[@benique520]

How exactly does the zip tie work?

[@chrisjano466]

Well ya see you just put the zip tie in and magically it runs faster

[@SpicyBloodBean]

how exactly does a sun set? how exactly does posi trac in the rear end of a plymouth work? it just does!

[@asianassassin5082]

Thank you sir is it the same on the bt200x i just got it for the kiddos but will wait until theyre experienced enough. Also does synthetic help these or that a no go sir. Thanks again.

[@JohnnyMullet]

I don't use synthetic in these.

[@gak2215]

How do I become a member of your mini bike club? I'm over here in Cleveland...

[@JohnnyMullet]

We been idle. Virus I guess.

[@gak2215]

@@JohnnyMullet do you have any plans to start things up again??

[@prebaned]

Zippy tie, only a Mullet man gets away with that...

[@soggypoptart652]

What is the stock top speed on one of those vs after modification

[@JohnnyMullet]

20 mph stock. 33 mph now.