Multipolarity = The Post Post-Cold War. The Fact The West Can't Stop (Although It Is Trying).

[@jeffrich1417]

Brilliant comments by Pascal at about 40:00. We must not let fantasies of a unipolar world dragging the realities of a multipolar world degenerating into war. Very insightful

[@meggallucci5300]

Pascal certainly has the contacts to organize a smart group of people for a discussion. A lot to take in here, and I will have to watch this twice to take it all in. Well done.

[@dryeoh2023]

Pascal, can you invite Kathleen for a discussion/interview as I am so anxious to listen to her on the monetary system of the world and the US vs the world economy and where are we heading. Pascal, please!

[@EGHG5263]

I agree... Such an authority and a garage of knowledge deserves an audience, and we most certainly would appreciate learning from that depth of knowledge and experience. Truth be told, I felt a hunger for knowledge and want to be fed as soon as possible.

[@silvioapires]

Outstanding discussion and HIGH powered participants! Every single one of this panel was highly informative!

[@larryyank3566]

TOTALLY ! WHAT PASCAL SAID at the 40:00 mark. It takes courage and endurance to keep from engaging in conflict rather than partnership. We all have to tow this line. USA must change. Bravo Pascal.👀 Regards, Viet vet/Ecologist VFP Rock On youguys🌬❣️💥🗯

[@johnsmith1474]

You mean Vietnam War criminal?

[@boonhongchan1853]

Pascal is brilliant and so correct. Unfortunately Western leaders had made life much too easy much earlier and their dependency on foreign labor, and skills has been too long. MSM has done their jobs much too well and for much too long??? Others have worked hard to rise up and improve their own livelihoods. The West has neglected encouraging their Citizens to remain competitive with the rest of the world.

[@catocall7323]

Not just encouragement, all this was done against resolut opposition from labor unions and workers. There's a reason MAGA is a slogan, basically a promise to re industrialize the US and why that her had to break the back of the miners.

[@stephen_pfrimmer]

Jo Freeman: The Tyranny of Structurelessness comes to mind as well. The active role of neutrality that Pascal has made me aware of (thank you Pascal) suggests that essay to me now.

[@gusforrester]

Invest in Bitcoin before retiring by diversifying across assets, allocating a small portion of your portfolio, staying updated on market trends, and considering long-term holding to balance risk and growth 🇺🇲

[@isttaattat]

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[@tamethetikbalang]

James Clark's market insights have consistently led to profitable decisions.

[@JDiegoCC-zf3cd]

I recently sold half my tech stock holdings due to all-time highs, leaving me with $400k. Should I invest in ETFs now or wait for a market correction considering potential inflation?

[@bayhunter6]

Celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today from a $6k start. Investing wisely has given me time for family and future plans.

[@AudricEnriquez]

From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

[@stephen_pfrimmer]

Those interested in consensus process might read On Conflict and Consensus by Butler and Rothstein. I recall that it assumes that conflict is a constant in interpersonal and intergroup relationships. The Quakers also have contributed a great deal to the consensus idea and process. Thank you Dr Tangen for bringing up consensus.

[@charleswilkie2097]

Yep, sit in a room - for days if necessary and debate until consensus is reached. Tribal (so-called primitive) peoples eg Maori in Aotearoa used to do this. That was intra- tribal, inter-tribal resolution was a balance between trade (most of the time), deals, intermarriage, alliances etc but raid when deemed necessary - incl. when protein in short supply!

[@carmenstadler-studer]

Thank you very much! Great discussion and insights!!!! Will share on other platforms

[@Woonkk-xz3yi]

Thank you so much. This is definitely one of the top notch channel around. Much appreciated for this kind of Multi independent dialogue.

[@user-nx1el9cc6b]

This meeting was brilliant as someone said it before me , l sent it to all the people that l know whom would also appreciate it like l did, greetings from Hungary

[@Way827]

Thank you so much for organising this brilliant meeting of sensible people. A Multi Polar World of cooperation, based on peace and prosperity is a far better future for the planet than the conflict stirred up by the USA.

[@rainlewis1822]

Thanks Pascal, great stuff .. after 40+ years I feel like I am back at University :-) Im interested in the financialised economy, it cant hold.. by sheer physics and resources limits. At the end of the day, you cant eat money, it doesnt even burn well enough to keep you warm. I would love to hear discussion of "Surplus Energy Economics" which is based on the 1972 study "Limits to Growth".

[@TheEmmef]

Thanks for a nice conversation. I guess leaving a lot of savings in Euros is not a really good idea right now.

[@larryyank3566]

Bravo Ms Tyson. Pushing innovative, well researched bravado is SO important in these times. Regards, Viet vet/Ecologist VFP Shero❣️

[@colleenhainess5850]

Miss Tyson”s Mike should be turned off when other’s speak as she can’t seem to allow alternative ideas to be full described. She ruins this discussion with her behaviour.

[@charleswilkie2097]

See above.

[@knight3672]

Wonderful discussion.

[@onestartravellermarkeymark5329]

Excellent discussion as usual Thanks

[@dianaanthony2981]

For "agriculture, " can we substitute healthy soil? That is the biological basis of healthy food, animals, farmers/farming and populations. AGRICULTURE needs to be distributed, not centslized. Food needs to be biologically focused, not profit dominated.

[@EGHG5263]

Why are these people not in charge of their various countries finances and economies? Politics has to change.

[@tonyd7601]

They are not on Bill Gates Xmas card list.

[@fchau6019]

Kathleen made sure she got the most air time.

[@sarahlee9979]

Kathleen made a premise that USD will never "go away" because 'finance' (using USD) is much larger compare to 'trade' (including oil). Einar challenged her on that ... thus, the "air time". Notice everyone were listening, because her premise is 'interesting'.

[@user-cq9pn3nm6b]

Banking as it currently exists is the major problem. Did she never hear the old axiom ‘All wars are Bankers wars.’

[@vanhocwong6689]

The panel of experts are awesome. This should be watched by all peoples.

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

The panel (singular) of experts IS or WAS awesome.

[@vanhocwong6689]

@@stavroskarageorgis4804 Whilst panel is singular, "Experts" is PLURAL. Furthermore, they are conducting a series of discussions - this being the 2nd one, with more to come. So usage of "are" is correct. Nice attempt at being sanctimonious.

[@BigMikeGuitar]

It’s fascinating how the management of multi-polarity is being considered through logistical and productivity metrics that are calculated without any consideration of responding to the climate crisis and environmental sustainability.

[@charleswilkie2097]

Very good point - the elephant in the room. We're not getting it. The multi-polar world might be coming but so what. Time is running out. We humans get excited about social justice but what about the injustice being done to Mother Earth?

[@sarahlee9979]

someone taking in twice amount of food, complaining about other's on 'environmental sustainability' ... the hypocrisy

[@BigMikeGuitar]

@@sarahlee9979 You’re personalizing a systems-based analysis and situation. The solution requires unilateral coordination complying with global sustainability protocols.

[@Zanzan8]

Stop lecturing Africa..the West got rich exploiting our soil..now that you a filthy rich..you care about "Mother Earth". Hippocrates 🇿🇦

[@gelinrefira]

Because if you don't have development, you don't have the luxury to consider anything else.

[@mikecouthor]

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[@Despolos-ie2qs]

She has really set the standard for others to follow, we love her here in Canada as she has been really helpful and changed lots of life's

[@RealestateMartha731]

The key is diversification. Personally, I delegate my investing to an advisor, cos my job doesn't permit the time to perform market analysis myself. Thankfully, my once ago stagnant portfolio has now 5X in barely 4 years, summing up almost 7 figure as of today.

[@moscrew11983]

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[@annlouise8909]

Just +- stated (S.L. Kanthan) : Highly skilled immigrants will go back home and innovate there, in part because neoliberal values in the west are disappointing. Research, data would be very appreciated.

[@rainlewis1822]

I agree. Im in Australia, but the University I went to always had a huge percentage of overseas students, and I worked with so many... a large percentage went back within a few years of graduating, because of "glass ceilings" They werent getting promotions, leadership/managerial roles etc. Secondly, the neoliberal "values" as expressed in Western culture, can be not just disappointing, but downright offensive... often described as the "decadence of decay".

[@sinic1978]

Come on. Highly skilled immigrants move back because of R. You know what R is right ? The six letter word.

[@annlouise8909]

@@sinic1978 No, I do not know. 6 letter word : r_ _ _ _ _. RIGHTS?

[@sinic1978]

@@annlouise8909 r_ c _ sm

[@sinic1978]

​@@annlouise8909yes that word.

[@nkonghoryan6493]

Madame Tyson's input was valuable, glad she was part of this discussion on multipolarity.

[@briskyoungploughboy]

She is very smart (Ive seen her on Steve Keen's economics channel) but she needs to stop overworking her statements of her own competencies, regardless of whether or not they're correctly stated. I think she is fairly new to being a public figure, so she feels like she needs to 'CV' herself constantly to be taken seriously by those that have never heard her before. I hope she learns this quickly, or she risks being dimissed as a 'blowhard', which would be unfortunate given her special expertise.

[@nkonghoryan6493]

@@briskyoungploughboy yeah, I noticed it too 😄.

[@bunmitella9672]

Really? She seems pushy and is taking the conversation in another direction. She seems to be here for her career.

[@nurainiarsad7395]

I just wanna observe how effortlessly diverse the forum is, and I bet they didn’t even try to fit some arbitrary KPI, they probably just wanted to make sure they have a good coverage of views and as a result obtained diversity as a side effect. This is diversity done correctly. It isn’t supposed to be as complicated, fake and farcical as corporations and think tanks make it.

[@ThinkBRICS]

The discussion is very interesting. The point raised by Tangen is simple but illuminating.

[@MsOceanstar]

Thank you for this forum! I wish it could go viral! Everybody in the world need to be awakened! I especially like to thank Anna Malindog-Uy from the Philippines. I was born in the Philippines of Chinese heritage. Now in my 70’s, been living in the US for some 50 yearsI I so understand the Philippines unfortunate systemic problems. Anna ‘s and her views are still in the minority. Why are the filipinos so enslaved to Uncle Sam’s dictates? Why o why the Filipino oligarchs are so entrenched in the political system., and are forever the ruling class? Why do the filipinos love the US so much? Yet, if there is an opportunity to leave the country, they would! I see a sad situation!

[@gelinrefira]

Well the rest of us in SE Asia always know that Phillipiness is the "special" kid. We are just too polite to point it out.

[@user-xw4su7xf9p]

The BRICS is about a MULTINODAL world, and not a multipolar world, where "nodes" brings a notion of inter-dependence, whereas "poles" are related to isolated countries minding their own businesses. So, this is why the better term for the new world that emerges with BRICS is "multinodality", instead of "multipolarity".

[@RaymondLi604]

Was this originally from Chas Freeman? Then Pepe Escobar picked it up?

[@RaymondLi604]

Multinodal World = Multipolar World + BRI

[@isabelmelladojensen9043]

Interesting point

[@rainlewis1822]

I heard it from Pepe Escobar after his attendance at the St Petersburg Economic Forum. Sort of like "hub and spoke" models, where larger countries become "nodes" or regional "hubs".

[@user-xw4su7xf9p]

@@RaymondLi604 yes, I learnt this listening to Pepe Escobar

[@Leoq-zk6wt]

The is the one video that educates people the most, please watch it multiple times if you have to. Thank you all on the panel!

[@zachrivers1078]

Had to skip 40min of waffle to listen to David. I followed him couple years as everything he says has been accurate as it's true 👍

[@shabs6214]

Brilliant

[@gelinrefira]

Stealthily creating money to buy each other is such an absurd concept. It's like trading virtual items in an online game using virtual money created in the game and then pretend that it is a real economy. It is also insanely immoral.

[@criskalogiros8181]

Brilliant!!!

[@virginiaipazia6149]

Pascal hai creato un angolo di mondo pacifico con persone illuminate e illuminanti. Complimenti e grazie.

[@lazarusguan2388]

Mr. S.L Kanthan is right about values. Values such as benevolence, righteousness, justice, equality, responsibility, courtesy, filial piety etc. It's something that is rarely discussed by western media. It's sad that the collective west sees values as some sort of vulgarity. The US was found on Christian beliefs. And these beliefs are values. To forsake values is to forsake God and His son, Jesus Christ. China has seen shift between unipolar and multipolar regimes throughout its history. China's unification was often brought about by people with the correct values and fragmented when values were forsaken.

[@amywalton4201]

Thankyou for hosting this talk…

[@boleslawzajaczkowski9392]

At this time printing money does not require good paper, ink and printing presses. Money is virtual made so the cost of creating money is close to nil.

[@abetterway8899]

very good discussion, more of this please.

[@szghasem]

I think Wikileaks exposed much of US politics. Good example is US officials referred to Swedish prime minister as "the little dog".

[@fatalmokrane]

For real?

[@boonhongchan1853]

Anna, why is FDI down 60+%? It's not just BRICS, even Global Elites are reducing their risk. These bases will take years, and by then the whole geopolitical environment has changed. Philippines will be left with humongous irrelevant assets? Or are they liabilities???

[@stephen_pfrimmer]

A Sangha: Thich Nhat Hanh said that the smallest number of humans needed to form a sangha is five. We have a sangha. Thank you all.

[@rainlewis1822]

".. the carrots are no longer sweet enough, and the sticks no longer that scary...."

[@Zanzan8]

Blame global warming 🤣

[@Bernadettk]

Thank you for the conversation but before you mention Orban please make a search what damage he did and with kind of maffia methods he robbed his own land. Greetings from Hungary

[@rayhume1971]

Could you please explain in what way any of that makes him different from any other leader, not just today, but in the entire history of the world? Greeting from USA!

[@imnotanalien7839]

Your discussions of nations around the world is very interesting. There is something, however, your panel didn’t mention, and that was the role of the private sector middle class, that grows the economy by running private sector for profit companies, and their consumption of all of these products and services. Most nations have very small private sectors and therefore have a small private sector middle class, with not much purchasing power.The middle class are the people who are able to consume these products. Unless government’s change to capitalism….what sector buys the goods? Most of the world is communist, dictatorships and socialism… all have a small consumer base, and a very low standard of living. If the U.S. goes down the drain, it’s going to have a world wide downward spiral on everyone else. I think it’s the loss of the U.S. middle class that is starting this downward spiral. That’s one of the biggest reasons why the U.S. federal government is printing so much money. 🇺🇸

[@fchau6019]

Kathleen interrupts a lot and needs to listen to others.

[@stromo_182model]

Definitely a "Me, Me" character

[@fchau6019]

@@stromo_182model It would help to NOT have her back again. She does not add much to the discussion except brag about herself, and constantly interrupts.

[@charleswilkie2097]

She's OK, a little bit self promoting perhaps but so what. Her message and what we can learn from her (eg I'll check out her book) - is more important than her personality.

[@hippopanotto]

Disparaging comments toward Kathleen are doing the same thing as Mr. Tangen’s unnecessary interruption of her to belittle her work. The notion that there is a separation between “Real” and “Financial” is what holds us back from understanding the current monetary crisis we’ve been stuck in since 2007-8. I don’t think anyone who is belittling her for talking up her work would do the same of many of the men who take up the majority of time talking in this space. Nor do I think those people understand the importance of the Repo market. Repo >>> Fed

[@zetristan4525]

Thanks for posting, apostates😉

[@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq]

Digby Wren is somewhat disingenuous. Yes Japan and Germany got funding after world war 2, Germany specifically was occupied by multiple countries and people in those countries worked mainly for the interest of other European countries, and were subjected to forced labour (typical Anglo overlooking history), and the factories and industry that Germany had was also destroyed by the Allies after WW2, so the rebuilding of the German economy was done in a way to suit the American and English capitalist model and turn them away from the Corporatist model. Secondly, yes the Soviets were excluded, the Soviets were both excluded and excluded themselves based on their Marxist-Leninist principles by which they wanted to end capitalism, which the capitalists would naturally oppose for the sake of self-preservation. They didn't want to be propped up by the capitalists, they had an economic period under Lenin where foreign investment from the US was allowed in order to rapidly industrialize and learn from Western technology (China did the same in recent history) up until it was no longer necessary and they built a war communist economy to ensure that they are self-sustainable. Wren might brag about having a Phd, but it's clearly not in history or economics, otherwise the institution through which he received that Phd is of extremely low quality since his utterances were ignorant.

[@roopnarainpersaud1177]

I agree with you

[@annlouise8909]

about 24 second gap in sound near start?

[@ansa336]

So? Does that devalue what is being discussed?

[@TheEmmef]

16:44 I agree with letting the air out of the financial system but suppose this will not be allowed to happen.

[@robertko5425]

Also, China became Japan, the Philippines, South Korea, and Taiwan's largest trading partner after the COLLAPSE of Free -Market Capitalism via the September 16, 2008 Global Economic & Financial Crisis with a Made in the USA by Wall Street Label on it as well. Also, China became Saudi Arabia's largest purchasers of their petroleum products also because of the above September 16, 2008 event in the USA as well.

[@BobWidlefish]

1:12 to 1:44 is dead silence.

[@phin_sea]

Some panelists interrupting and just chiming, one in particular, is disruptive of the discussion.

[@MarkoMijuskovic]

That $12K car that BYD made is called E2... but I want to know how much, if any, of its price is subsidized by the Chinese state? I mean if for every car sold the state dishes out $50K to BYD then that's not a sustainable business model...

[@julienbengkee5422]

The Phillipines is... Catholic in faith.. American in its dreams.. SE Asian in location.. Islander in nature.. American English in speech... Spanish in its people's names... Therefore... Rice eating Catholic Eurasian Americans in the making diaspora??

[@putra4101]

1:18 No sound Pascal

[@stavroskarageorgis4804]

The person asking who's going to be buying US Treasury paper once the policy rate is lowered by the Fed is either silly or profoundly ignorant (yet very self-confident).

[@dodemocracy2426]

What do the Americans do? We all work at Walmart.

[@gryblk21]

How does the necessary liquidity for 80 currencies compare to necessary liquidity for Bitcoin?

[@dianaanthony2981]

Writren OFF! NOW YOU'RE TALKING SENSE!

[@megthornton1371]

Why have speculation

[@nfineon]

What is with the 1 lady taking all the oxigen out for 10+ mins now, she's just more of the same, nothing new, no ideas... Can we hear more from others?

[@heartofsteel7821]

Fiat economy

[@johnsmith1474]

People don't want to live in Africa, or India, or China. They'd much rather live in the US. Figure that out.

[@RaymondLi604]

54:00 Why PH briefly trained with American MRC (Mid-Range Capable) missile system, then sent them back! Not from China-USA EW tussle in SCS, but from Pres Putin's comments! 😮

[@annlouise8909]

about 24 second gap first speaker?

[@RaymondLi604]

1:08 Yes, not a stereo problem. Just silence 🔇

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Same for me

[@roopnarainpersaud1177]

You have no influence on world events. The world situation remains the same.

[@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984]

Einar, I respect your knowledge, but please don't talk over Kathleen and wait your turn. Your voice is much louder than hers and I was trying to listen to what she was saying/explaining, but you interrupted her. Please, if you have something to say or disagree about her theories, then at least let her finish her sentences, before you make your comments regarding them.

[@nkosipwl]

Bs

[@sf6199]

❤

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

[@careymoore8160]

The symposium resembled more like The Berlin Conference of 1884 than anything else. Typical.