MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS: Is Wanda a Variant of Jean Grey? | Phoenix + Scarlet Witch Same Entity?

Professor Charles Xavier was just teased in the first trailer for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. But this made us wonder, what OTHER X-Men connections might we see? Will Wolverine make an appearance? Will this bring mutants into the MCU? And why did Patrick Stewart's Professor X join the multiversal Illuminati?
We think it's because his world might have been destroyed by a variant of Wanda Maximoff: Jean Grey, AKA The Dark Phoenix. In this video we break down why Phones and the Scarlet Witch might be connected through the multiverse, and how the ramifications will affect the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Written by Colton Ogburn ( / @coltonhere )
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Edited by Sean Martin and Harriet Lengel-Enright
0:00 Professor X’s Return and the Illuminati
3:26 Why Strange is in Trouble with the Illuminati
5:07 House of M in Multiverse of Madness
6:52 Scarlet Witch = The Phoenix Force
9:26 Are Mutants Already in the MCU?
10:44 Wolverine Appearance?
#DoctorStrange #MultiverseOfMadness #WandaIsJeanGrey
The Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Official Trailer confirmed the long rumored appearance of Patrick Stewart’s Professor Charles Xavier. [clip]
In the trailer we hear Baron Mordo tell Strange that [his desecration of reality will not go unpunished]. We then see Strange handcuffed and escorted by Ultron Bots to what we believe is a multiversal council of the Illuminati.
We’ve covered this before, but the Illuminati, in the comics, are group of hero team leaders who coordinate their efforts to protect the earth-but they do this in secret. It looks like the illuminati in Dr strange are a similar council, except they are protecting the multiverse.
Then, as Strange approaches we hear the voice of one Sir Patrick Stewart, followed by a quick shot of a bald man not walking in but obviously rolling or hovering in-giving us all the confirmation we need that this is indeed Patrick Stewart reprising his role as Professor X.
So what does this reveal mean for the MCU? Is this the same Professor X we’ve met before in the Fox X-Men films? Keep in mind we’ve seen variant timelines in that franchise as well, meaning we’ve seen variant Professor X’s.
The first one was a Professor X whose story starts with the film X-Men First Class and goes through to the apocalyptic future of X-Men Days of Future Past.
Second we have a Professor X whose story also starts with X-Men First Class-but then splinters off to a new future where Wolverine was sent back in time to prevent the aforementioned apocalyptic future.
And lastly we have essentially an elseworld version of the Professor in Logan. His history is likely very similar to that of his alternate timeline counterparts. We also need to mention that this Professor X in his old age has cataclysmic seizures that can be lethal to those around him.He ultimately dies at the hands of a Wolverine clone.
Now the question is, is the Xavier in Multiverse of Madness one of these three? one…
Or is this a variant of Charles Xavier we’ve never met before? Perhaps an Xavier who’s dealt with characters like the Scarlet Witch before?
I can't wait to find out what happened in his world that led him to be come part of this multiversal illuminati.
We think this variant Professor X will be very similar to versions we’ve met before, but his universe turned out a lot darker. He’ll still have had his old friend turned enemy Magneto, still started a school for Mutants, formed the X-Men, recruited a Hugh Jackman Wolverine, then mentored but simultaneously held back a red-haired star pupil-Wanda Maximoff. But more on that theory a little later.
Why is Doctor Strange being brought before Professor X?
First let’s talk about why Doctor Strange is being brought before Professor Xavier and the rest of the Illuminati. What did Strange do that Mordo is referring to as a “desecration of reality”?
The most obvious answer is what transpired in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Strange casting a spell that literally fractured the multiverse-and even though the “forget Peter Parker” spell seemingly fixed the problem, perhaps that very tearing has caused irreparable damage.
However Strange also mentions i[I’ve been having nightmares]. Perhaps these nightmares are visions of other universes' demise. Universes that we believe were destroyed at the hands of Wanda Maximoff-more specifically The entity known as the Scarlet Witch. That would explain why Strange seeks out Wanda and asks her what she knows about the multiverse.

[@ardabaytaroglu9928]

It would be hilarious if he guy who says "We should tell him the truth" just coughs afterwards and speaker with a different voice :D

[@MicahMane]

Deadpool confirmed with this comment lmao 😂

[@NotKR-10z]

I would cry

[@victorhbbs]

Any other than Deadpool doing this would cause a riot

[@alexanderdumas-]

Professor Bohner

[@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos]

@@alexanderdumas- Don't even start 💀💀✋🏻😭

[@metafate]

jean grey's phoenix force and scarlet witch's chaos magic are yin and yang. phoenix force represents order while chaos magic represents, uh... chaos they are not the same, nor are they variants of each other

[@elidavidcuevas3325]

Phoenix Force is way more powerful in the comics to the point where she owned Galactus like a flea and Celestials bowed to her.

[@Vincesjones]

@@elidavidcuevas3325 Phoenix has a it's own weakness and one of them is chaos magic

[@El_Venenoso20]

@@Vincesjones indeed Chaos Magic does hurt the Phoenix

[@SirDenisX]

Exactly... Those are cosmic entities and universal forces... Chaos and order... Phoenix mission is to mantain the natural order... Things are born and then cease to exist... While Wandas magic represents chaos, her magic reshapes reality, she creates and destroys willingly by breaking the natures laws...

[@camm8642]

@@Vincesjones chaos magic is only effective on weak hosts.......the actual pf feeds on stars to sustain itself that is from the actual phoenix saga not later retcons.

[@chookiemunster]

Geez... I hope not. I LOVE Jean, but Wanda needs to be her own, not a Jean variant.

[@rethablair6902]

It would be an awesome way to see Wanda go from phase to phase if this happens❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos]

Yes I love them both and they need their own seperate identities not a crammed up single version of both. They (their powers) both r the Ying & Yang to the existence itself.

[@chookiemunster]

@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos But also, Phoenix Wanda would be AWESOME. Still, I prefer they both to be apart.

[@zakkmylde1712]

This isn't going to happen, it's absolutely ridiculous and anyone who thinks this is even a remote possibility has some comics to read.

[@GeminiKnight76]

She's not and never will be a variant of Jean Grey. She's a completely separate character in any universe within the Marvel comics and movies.

[@stefanlangenhoven78]

Anybody else feel that Wanda should have gotten her own movie?

[@Mustang_Sally_]

well she had her own tv show lol

[@stefanlangenhoven78]

@@Mustang_Sally_ which was an interesting way to introduce the Scarlett Witch, now she needs a solo film.

[@plsbuffme5470]

@@stefanlangenhoven78 yeah slowly slowly they're building it up, she will play a major role in MoM and Agatha house of harkness.... than... she will take a break... they'll make her wait for about 2 years. Than we'll get her movie! Like I'd say 2024-25...

[@abangtengku]

AGATHA "HOUSE OF HARKNESS" IS A WANDAVISION SPIN OFF AND THE POST CREDIT IS GONNA BE THE SEASON 2 SO SHE DON'T NEED NEED HER OWN MOVIE😂😂

[@aahmirjoseph]

I’d rather the season we got of her series. A movie is only 3hrs at the most.

[@holman725]

Doesn’t the fact that Wanda’s a nexus being sideline your theory she’s a Jean Grey variant…??? 🤔

[@agentofchaos7456]

What are you talking about?

[@audiec03]

@@agentofchaos7456 a nexus being is the same being throughout the multiverse, meaning their personality might change but they are essentially the same person throughout the entire multiverse(at least how i understand it). so scarlet witch being jean grey can’t be possible cuz they’re two different people.

[@agentofchaos7456]

@@audiec03 The definition of a nexus being varies but that was never one of them. The first definition was that it was a being that exists in all realities.

[@texaslaw1551]

It’s just clickbait

[@agentofchaos7456]

@@texaslaw1551 Read my comment above.

[@fablewynd7530]

They literally state in Wandavision that she’s a nexus being, same in every universe. So no, she’s not a variant.

[@elidavidcuevas3325]

Umm well she is a variant in Multiverse of Madness, wait and see!

[@Kk-jn5gu]

@@elidavidcuevas3325 not a variant of jean grey😂😂

[@r8k42]

@@elidavidcuevas3325 theres other wandas but not scarlet witch

[@KC-qy1ys]

@@r8k42 that’s not another Wanda, it’s the same Wanda who split herself somehow, showing how more powerful she is to the sorcerer supremes who can Astro project but can’t keep their physical bodies conscious

[@arturof9875]

Being a nexus being implies one exist in every parallel reality/universe/time line: there is a Wanda in each reality. Wanda/the scarlet which is always going to be Wanda. Jean is not a nexus being

[@kimberly8695]

If Wanda and Jean can both consume realities, it's best to let them remain separate characters. Alioth also can do that, so where will that leave him?

[@bluebird1954]

Alioth isn't a nexus being

[@kimberly8695]

@@bluebird1954 Neither is Jean. At any rate, I know that Alioth is not a nexus being. However, I took his role in Loki to be that he was at the end of all time, and he was essentially the garbage disposal for all the TVA's pruned and discarded variants.

[@andyloretto1827]

The phoenix is an omni-versal being, existing in all realities, but always the Phoenix. In fact the Phoenix Force is diametrically opposed to Wanda's chaos magic, as seen in AVX, they can work in tandem but they can't exist in the same person. It's separate from the nexus being that Wanda is, however the concept is the same, where in, like the Phoenix, a nexus being exists in all realties and is always tied to the thing that makes them a nexus being, Chaos Magic in the case of Wanda. So yes, A Xavier COULD have had A Wanda as a student instead of Jean, but their powers (and the source of their powers) are and will be different.

[@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos]

Also Jean Grey is a nexus being in a different universe too just like Wanda Maximoff is the nexus being of the main universe Earth 616. So even Jean Grey will always be an omega level mutant & the Phoenix in every universe.

[@dbsasuke]

That’s the comics. Movies change things all the time.

[@FamousFelix08]

@@dbsasuke no they can’t cause they’ve confirmed that the movies exist within its own universe along with 616 years ago… so no Wanda can’t be Jean grey.. that’d be horrible idea If they did that. People would be upset

[@aaditkhan728]

Okay.I just have 1 question,who's more powerful cause I'm really rooting for phoenix.

[@lisarempfer9806]

can the entities switch then?

[@BOSS_1417]

Nah I don't want Wanda to be a Jean Grey variant But I love the theory that Wanda was the super powerful mutant under Xavier's care

[@msquared9605]

It’s time for Mcavoy to have a huge role in the MCU. He’s the most criminally underrated actor. He should have so many awards from Split alone

[@joshmciver4847]

he isn't underrated. He is universally praised in pretty much every performance he's given. therefore, he is rated fairly. stop over/misusing the term "underrated" people.

[@msquared9605]

@@joshmciver4847 dang, who pissed in your Cheerios? An actor can be universally praised and still be underrated ya know, they’re not mutually exclusive. Especially when it comes to major acting awards, which I specifically alluded to

[@robflo5473]

Facts 💯✅🤙

[@charleswalker8090]

He’s not underrated at all lol but yeah would like to see him in the mcu.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@charleswalker8090 he is underrated.He should've won a lot of awards for split but did he??No and thats why I'm pissed.

[@bloodrain980]

The Scarlet Witch is one of my favourite characters. I feel like attributing her decisions on an external force like a "Scarlet Witch entity" or the Phoenix Force would detract from the agency of the character and reduce the character's value. I would hate to see that.

[@brianm3160]

Right??!? I enjoy these theories but I hope they stick to the comic definition of the Scarlet Witch

[@nephtys369]

Same. I need it to be her power.

[@agentofchaos7456]

The Phoenix Force never controlled Jean's decisions in either the comics or live-action. It technically didn't even exist in the movies.

[@moonbearx]

I was thinking the same. She’s one of the few characters that acts on her own will and doesn’t listen to an agency atm. Plus, I’d really like to see a really good Jean Grey

[@agentofchaos7456]

@@moonbearx Check out my comment above.

[@loganfaraday1740]

Here’s a crazy thought: If Wanda is a nexus being and is a constant through out all universes, does that mean there’s a variant of Wanda in Tobeys and Andrew’s spider man universe.

[@Matthew_MBG]

genius

[@KHN.RVA.28]

Yes but she's evidently not evil if they arent warning peter about her in the brief time they all are together

[@ali3nly]

the sonyverse sucks tbf

[@IcyDiamond]

There’s a variant of Dr. Strange in the Raimiverse so maybe idk

[@loganfaraday1740]

@@IcyDiamond imagine if defender strange is a part of the avengers that tobeys Spider-Man is a part of as well and that’s why he shows up in multiverse of madness.

[@MystifiedBeef]

If Hugh Jackman does return to play Wolverine I would prefer it to be in Deadpool 3 so we can finally get a proper fight between them.I do think that he will appear at some point during this multiverse storyline, but as a one-off seeing him interact with Deadpool would be the better option.

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@Die-Angst he says but money talks. Disney money is way better than Fox money

[@Twisteditup]

i think everyone would rather see wolverine vs hulk tho

[@perceptionpoet4136]

@@Twisteditup agreed 💯

[@93deonte]

Wolverine is apparently in multiverse of madness but it’s not Hugh Jackman

[@CityPlannerPlaysChair]

No. She's a nexus being. Same in every universe. She's also the "Scarlet Witch" a separate resignation from the alien "Phoenix". Jean is Jean/Phoenix; Wanda is Wanda/Scarlet Witch. There isn't overlap.

[@mathewteague1419]

You shouldn't say that so certainly. We do not know how nexus beings will be treated in the mcu yet

[@infinati]

@@mathewteague1419 …

[@DrHerculesReal]

I came here to say this. You beat me to it. There is absolutely NO overlap. NONE!

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Exactly - there's no need to link everything together, it's getting a little bit tiring and predictable - sometimes things are just similar and that's fine :)

[@TankMnky]

This title/video is just clickbait and it's hilariously sad.

[@WRDPLY]

What if instead of no more mutants, Wanda created mutants so that way Disney could bring some more X-men characters into the mcu. Just a thought.

[@JimSamable]

We’re assuming that because Mordo said ‘your desecration of reality will not go unpunished’ to Dr Strange in his first movie, that he’s saying it to Dr Strange again. If Loki taught us anything, it’s that variants tend to sway to similar paths and phrases even if different situations. My theory is he’s saying it to a Wanda variant just before he dies

[@willnutland5772]

Haven’t watched the video but just from the title it’s a cool theory. I’d imagine that Jean grey was the nexus being of her reality, as Wanda is for the main Mcu timeline.

[@youuglymess]

Not exactly,Dr Strange is a Nexus being too

[@brianm3160]

Interesting

[@efxnews4776]

It's stupid... because what he is implying is that for one to exist the other shouldn't... UNLESS, the idea is to bring both to existence, then i do actually agree, but erase one to keep the other safe? No i don't... Also, to my point of view, the comics are building up for a major confrontation between Scarlet Witch and Phoenix, so maybe this is the case like when in house of M Wanda says "No more mutants" and the mutants didn't exist aside from a very few (and the Phoenix itself). Maybe the woman that they see is actually Jean Grey, a wounded Phoenix comming back to the MCU hunting Wanda for eradicate her and the mutants from the universe

[@TheeKingRayzor]

I don't Scarlett to be a Jean Grey variant;furthermore, I want them to fight, it needs to be epic.

[@painlord2k]

Jean Grey vs Invisible Woman when they recover the cocoon where Jean is in stasis. Apparently, Susan can totally neutralize Jean Telekinesis with her force fields. She can topple a Celestial too.

[@TheeKingRayzor]

@@painlord2k I didn't ask about the Invisible Woman.

[@brianm3160]

@@painlord2k yes, she can also block telepathic attacks with her force fields

[@painlord2k]

@@TheeKingRayzor With the Invisible Woman was humbling. Pushed to the ceiling and unable to do anything.

[@TheeKingRayzor]

@@painlord2k But who win between Scarlett Witch vs Jean Grey?

[@diana-justtakingitonestitc6122]

That little girl is from X-Man: Days of Future Past is not Wanda, it's Lorna. The dialogue between the mom and the little girl after the boys go down to the basement is: Mom: Go upstairs and bug your sister. Little Girl: But she bugs me! Directly implying another sister, one who is supposed to be and likely is the twin to the teenager in the basement. So, Wanda is Wanda in every universe. It's why Peter's Pietro recognized his sister. He may be a different Pietro, but she is the same Wanda. Ralph was just his hex identity; he's not immune to his sister's powers after all. I do believe that the mcu will not introduce Jean while they have Wanda as a main character, just because it will be too confusing for the casual viewers.

[@dr.stephenstrange8471]

I really hope we see Our MCU version Wanda and strange fight a multiverse Wanda who is really powerful. I think that would make for a really cool villain.

[@dsfddsgh]

For the love of God no let Wanda be Wanda especially after how we came to love her character in Wandavision.

[@RandomNPC001]

Has the MCU been in a House of M situation till now? Are we going to see wanda break the spell? That would help bring the mutants into the MCU! That would be a cool twist and save time reintroducing all these characters!

[@TruForte401]

This would be amazing. Another Wanda in a different universe could have did "no mutans" for her & other unis....

[@CLongJohnson1131]

I’ve wanted something like that to happen since they introduced Wanda in Winter Soldier! I’ve pictured her saying “No, more mutants.” instead of “no more mutants”. It would be an excellent play on words and great callback to House of M

[@vaporman442]

That would certainly explain a lot. But then Pietro would be a weird loose end. It would also seem that Wanda would have had her memory wiped. She seems to truly not have knowledge of the mutants.

[@RandomNPC001]

@@vaporman442 not all mutants lost their powers in HofM, plus they share a connection. As for her memory she could have mentally blocked it, like she did after creating the new Vision!

[@cosmicgrub360]

@@RandomNPC001 or like she did in the house of m when she created the house of m reality

[@LyleStyle87]

8:47 This is wrong, watch the Rogue version of X-Men Days of Future Past and the little girl will actually mention Wanda Maximoff being upstairs unseen. That little girl is Polaris.

[@hirendrabarman7443]

when?

[@aahmirjoseph]

I was just saying this!! The mom said “Go bug your sister” and Lorna said “She bugs me”.

[@princessgdance]

Rogue version??

[@Ryekuza]

The parallels between Dr. Strange and Tony are insane. Just how most mcu villains were of Tony's creation, it seems Stephen is the slight cause of the problems now

[@kirkwood1987]

I wouldn't like that. We know they are different characters. Why make them one in the same? Not a cool idea for me. We should have Jean and Wanda. Theybare completely different ppl with powers from different circumstances.

[@adhird5309]

Right? It would be like combining Falcon and War Machine into one character, just because they're both black and do machine assisted flight. The similarities are superficial, just like Wanda a powerful reality warping Witch, who isn't even typically a redhead, and Jean Grey a powerful Psychic. They deserve their own character arcs and storylines.

[@kushkilla4202]

I thought we never met Wanda in X-men days of future past? I thought we just got a reference. The mom told the little girl to go upstairs and play with her sister.

[@raybando3971]

It would be totally mind blowing if when end up finding out Wanda is also a mutant. And also why she was able to bring a mutant version of Quicksilver to the MCU. Again she didn’t recognize him personally but felt there was a connection, and in Wondavision he knew who she was..

[@KingPhilip_ULP]

Wouldn't it be dope to see Jean come in to fight Wanda... almost kills Wanda, but Charles stops Jean and says "no, thats Magneto's daughter"... and then camera pans Magneto 🤔

[@ZombieFarmboy666]

Yeah, I'm agreeing with most of the commentors. I don't mind some of the changes they've done in the MCU from the comics, but this would be too much of a divergence.

[@mickswager5116]

Only problem with that is that Wanda is a nexus being so she's has no variant

[@agentofchaos7456]

That is not what a nexus being is and Wanda also had a variant in What If.

[@keuric]

That’s not how Nexus beings work. Apparently. Nexus beings are singular in their reality because they possess enough power to destroy their universe. Wanda can exist in other universes, but only this Wanda has the necessary power to do so. I was under the same impression as you - Mephisto being an example - there are no multiversal Mephistos or Living Tribunals, they are singular beings. I’m not sure if the definition changed at some point, because there was a time where Nexus beings were these singular points of existence-no Earth-2514 Wanda because Wanda was a Nexus being.

[@brianm3160]

@@keuric so you mean that there's only one Scarlet Witch but many Wandas?

[@mickswager5116]

Scarlet witch n jean grey a 2 different mutants so regardless if wanda is a nexus being magneto ain't jeans daddy.

[@agentofchaos7456]

@@mickswager5116 So? Sylvie is not a variant of Loki in the comics either. That did not stop Marvel Studios from making so in the MCU.

[@boilingmanTV]

This is quite far fetched, but also a very interesting angle. I had completely forgotten about the parallel of General Striker X2 / Baron Strucker A2 and both being concerned with secret military experimentation on 'mutants'

[@fightthegoodfight52]

“We should tell him the truth!” Some transformation happens shortly there afterwards, then we hear a snickering laugh! Everyone looks around and are like, who the #$@* are you? Who me…my name is Morph! 💥😲

[@connormacdonald2883]

Total agreement on McAvoy, he was a great Xavier.

[@jheiser9544]

I fear they are going to show us versions of beloved characters (and Blackbolt) just so Wanda gets the shock and awe of killing them. In Stewart's case his it would be his 3rd on screen death as Prof X.

[@franklinantoniocruz113]

Recently watched the last dark phoenix movie and when jean recks the aliens they dust and disappeared the same way as in infinity war when thanos does the snap

[@naz1225]

Would love to see Professor X wipeout all memories about mutant because of “Registration Act” instead of mutant from another multiverse.

[@ddpsf]

This is too complex for the MCU. Feige likes to keep it simple for the greatest possible appeal.

[@Tidom19]

I usually like your theories but I really hope you're wrong about Jean/Wanda

[@jokemiri]

The Hydra experiments took so much of a toll that she didn't want mutants like her to go through the same treatment so she unconsciously "suppressed" all mutant abilities the same way she kept the Stark bomb from going off.

[@brendandavis9667]

I hope you make the money you deserve with this channel Ryan. You are the man.

[@whalemonstre]

I love this theory - Scarlett Witch and Jean Grey have so much in common, it wouldn't surprise me if they tweak things in this way. Jean Grey is after all also a nexus being (of Earth 9250). And no, nexus beings are *not* the same being across all universes. Scarlet Witch is the nexus being of Reality 616. There will be variants of her in other universes, many of whom may be Wanda Maximoff, but many of whom we have never met. Quite conceivably, a handful of these variants could be identities other than Wanda Maximoff.

[@efxnews4776]

Problem here is that we are talking about a cinematic universe, you CAN'T simply erase Jean Grey, she has to exist, not so much because the story, but also because the public, i never was a fan of Wanda to begin with, my favored red hair was always Jean Grey, and i'm not the only one, so Disney needs to think about the public too, it isn't just all about the story.

[@whalemonstre]

@@efxnews4776 I agree - I just liked the theory. And since we now know Fox X-Men absolutely *are* showing up in the MCU, it seems Disney agrees too. 🙂

[@radioarchives8019]

Not to be bad or anything but doesn't this go against some of your WandaVision theories alongside the established Marvel lore of Wanda Maximoff?

[@danknight84]

My word this is 3000 to unload in my mind. Great work as always dude. Much thanks

[@GiveZeeAChance]

We already got Days of Future Past and imo we don't need MCU X-Men to be a rehash of No Way Home. Hopefully whatever cameo Patrick Stewart has here opens the door for a whole new cast to have a go at the X-Men

[@ScreenCrush]

Are we ever going to get the Dark Phoenix saga done right on screen?

[@TheStarwars1995]

I pray, they left her on a cliffhanger in days of future past. That's where i would like her story to pick up. 🤯

[@Roman.Will.]

No lol it's cursed

[@painlord2k]

It requires, at least, three movies. You must have Jean established as good, loving, vulnerable with normal "Marvel Girl" Telekinesis and telepathy (and Xavier placing the telepathy blocks to prevent her death). Then you must have her build up her relationship with Cyclops and lose him. Then she can be corrupted by Wingard and go from Phoenyx to Dark Phoenyx. Then remember she was in a cocoon underwater and the entire Phoenix saga was the Phoenix itself playing as/believing to be Jean Grey.

[@agentofchaos7456]

The Dark Phoenix movie was meant to be an adaptation of Jean/Phoenix's origin story. It was never meant to be an adaptation of the whole saga.

[@Odannyb0i]

Yes

[@Dlipton01]

Well this is utter nonsense, No she’s not Jean Grey…..why would Marvel blow their Phoenix saga load before establishing that Mutants, the Phoenix force or even Jean are a thing.

[@izzyGO52]

I would honestly be so deeply disappointed if that's where they went with the character. Jean Grey and Wanda are two very different characters, they should both be given good development and attention in their films etc. I would love to see Jean Grey and the Phoenix saga done well on screen AND I hope they do Wanda's arc justice and give her good development and a chance to grow and change, whether that means she is a villain or hero. But i do hope they don't say her "evil" choices are only because she's the Scarlett Witch. The exploration of her trauma and past in Wandavision was great to see and really left Wanda in a morally ambiguous place. It would be cool if she becomes a sort of antihero force, like Loki is; sometimes villainous, sometimes heroic, always a constant force to be reckoned with. Especially given they're both such agents of chaos.

[@johnpittsii7524]

Awesome video as always 👌

[@andrewgrey6783]

In avengers vs X-men, tony noticed that the Phoenix energy and chaos magic had the same energy signatures. The fiery order of the Phoenix, and the destructive chaos magic are Yin and Yang, one in the same so it could be possible.

[@teovu5557]

its already stated in Wandavision and mcu canon that Wanda is a Nexus being......meaning shes the exact same in ALL realities. Also Yin and Yang are oppsites , hence why its Yin and Yang......lol no offense.

[@andrewgrey6783]

@@teovu5557 none taken. The two energies are connected. Same as your shadow is connected to your body, if that would help😁.

[@andrewgrey6783]

@@teovu5557 think of it as the dot in each of the colors. The chaos having a dot Phoenix, and Phoenix having a dot of chaos☯️ kinda would make sense. Creative differences I conclude with😁(One of the nicknames of the Phoenix is chaos bringer look it up when you have time).

[@teovu5557]

@@andrewgrey6783 put down the weed andrew.

[@andrewgrey6783]

@@teovu5557 but why tho 😂😂😂fine.

[@bobbycecere1037]

Yes, of course I want McAavoy & Fassbender. They were incredible, plus they are both the right age going forward. But no, I don't understand your need for a Hugh Jackman Wolverine. He was VERY specific to that particular universe and way too old to play Logan going forward. No thanks. 👎

[@seanmartin1270]

I don’t know about making them variants. I think it’d be cool to somehow show the parallels though. Maybe through Professor X talking about Jean like you said. If it made since, I’d want to see them go up against each other.

[@jonimusprime6202]

Weren’t the phoenix force and Wanda maximoff’s powers interlinked at the end of the avengers vs. x-men storyline? I believe it was what finally allowed the mutant race to be restored

[@kieferfulsom4432]

Noooooooooo, I love the Scarlet Witch, & love Phoenix but they need to be separate entities and NOT variants of each other. Fun fact: the Phoenix Force itself was a retcon to bring “real” Jean Grey back from the dead. Yup.

[@M7ofATC]

If Wanda’s a nexus being, then how can she be a Jean grey variant?

[@efxnews4776]

Is stupid, Jean is one of the most famous and beloved X-men, Marvel wouldn't be dumb enough to erase her... What could happen is a confrontation with the Phoenix, that actually would be cool.

[@koepisking]

Your videos have me so hyped I might need to start watching all the xmen movies every weekend leading up to the multiverse of madness!!

[@hannahch8]

it’s a cool idea though. they really do mirror each other. i would change the concept to be more like what if? instead of a variant.

[@ScreenCrush]

What X-Men variant do you want to see the most?

[@wdred]

Cyclops, done right

[@NaniTus]

Deadpool

[@ctkook6477]

I really want every variant to be played by different actors. I still want Kelsey Grammar and Owen Wilson Kang variants!🙏

[@TheStarwars1995]

I just recently watched all the X-Men movie and my favorite character is Jean Grey's Dark Phoenix. I want her to show up and duke it out with Scarlett Witch

[@nafsinishan1593]

Mystique and Beast

[@djhutchison]

Please don't try to connect a character we've had time to know and care about, with a character we've barely spent time with, and are *expected* to care about. They aren't the same. _The Phoenix Saga_ is one of the best X-Men stories ever told, but trying to tell it in one movie is a mistake Fox made twice. Look at Wanda's arc over her time in the MCU to get an idea of how it should have been done.

[@Biajuuu]

It's a good morning when screencrush upload a video

[@slothbabymutation7934]

There is so much to carry and see from the X-Men characters. Who else is with me and wants to see jean Grey/Phoenix developed by the MCU with the right plot?

[@r.ryu.gav7287]

Well I prefer if they aren't a variant of each other. Even if mutants started to exist back on the MCU or whatsoever, they each deserve their own recognition and/or entity apart from each other. Besides it was mentioned in some comics and/or shows that Phoenix Force and Chaos Magic are somehow similar with almost the same energy signatures but with different source of power.

[@i_o_r_i___xxx90]

what if Wanda’s Scarlet Witch got possessed by The Phoenix force in an alternate universe a variant of Wanda 💁🏻‍♀️that would be so very OP for everyone to oppose against

[@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos]

That can't happen cuz Her Chaos Magic and Phoenix energy are polar opposites... like magnets It detracts if the same sides of the bars are put together and doesn't match.. they r like Ying and Yang according to comics.

[@El_Venenoso20]

That could never happen. Chaos Magic hurts the Phoenix force.

[@camm8642]

@@El_Venenoso20 it hurts weak phoenix hosts.....not the actual PF

[@jakespeed9419]

Of all the videos you've ever mentioned the nexusp I never truly understood it until this one.. so thank you for that

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

When we think about it, we a seen alot of professor x variant in the fox x-men movies : -Xavier from first class to dofp future -Xavier from that new timeline at the end of dofp -Xavier from first class to dark Phoenix -Xavier from origin wolverine -Xavier from xmen 1 to xmen last stand -Xavier from Logan -we got a Xavier from the wolverine who appeared out of nowhere, I think this Xavier is the one we will see in multiverse of madnes

[@suisui7481]

7:01 i wouldnt expect this from you but wanda is not a mutant, never was (yay retcons), even in the comics and in the latest krokoa arc where she (spoilers) dies and the mutants don't revive her because of what she did in house of M and etc and they specify that she isn't a mutant

[@CodenameZues]

Except she came back Magneto killed her and then they revived her anyway

[@suisui7481]

@@CodenameZues yeah but in that convo they say that she isn't a mutant

[@spencerbrogdon2937]

@@suisui7481 True but they did establish that Wanda is still magneto daughter despite not being biologically related.

[@suisui7481]

@@spencerbrogdon2937 as like adopted?

[@buckman234]

You had me until you started conflating the phoenix force with the scarlet witch. I think those are two distinct powers/entities that are too well known on their own to mix together. Would be disrespectful to them.

[@ritchiedecaro1627]

Multiverse of names better have wanda screaming LET THERE BE MUTANTS

[@thomaseley2648]

No

[@yeuxdal]

I prefer to think of Jean Grey as a Wanda variant. I’m too confused to figure out if that’s any different 🤔🙃

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

No.

[@agent44.adam.]

I really hope jean grey is in doctor strange 2 she is far more powerful than wanda and will stop her..

[@atomicflix]

Wanda can’t be a variant she’s a Nexus being. Saved some time not watching that one

[@benwinger4852]

Didn't watch the video but wanda is the scarlet witch a completely different character in mu that have jean grey , shes literally the daughter of magneto

[@LFCMCUSW.]

This is one of the worst theories I've ever read! Still love your channel though.

[@dr.bright5670]

I wonder if we'll get Hope Summers in the MCU because of her connection to Cable and Wanda Maximoff. For those who don't know, Hope is the strongest Mutant to ever live and was the entire reason behind Avengers vs. Xmen

[@aspbigblue]

Uh, see Franklin Richards…

[@dr.bright5670]

@@aspbigblue Graviton kicks ass

[@aspbigblue]

Lol wrong Franklin. And apparently Franklin Richards is no longer a mutant. Who knew? I stopped reading the new run of X books about a year ago.

[@camm8642]

strongest mutant.........far from it she is about as strong as those around her.

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

Could be potentially a new professor x actor. Obviously he could be lieing, but the actor did say he wasn't in the movie a few days after the super bowl trailer came out, even though the trailer clearly shows a Proffessor X

[@londonxrainn]

But Patrick Stewart's voice is in the trailer

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

@@londonxrainn it's an old man voice but could be a variant.

[@londonxrainn]

@@No1ANTAGON1ST it could be a variant, but it’s most definitely Patrick Stewart’s voice. So even if it’s a different version of Professor X, it’s still going to be Patrick Stewart portraying that variant of Professor X

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

@@londonxrainn I hope so but I wouldn't say 100%, it's him. Sounds like him though

[@charleswalker8090]

One of the best analysis I’ve seen so far! I really like the idea that’s it’s a variant of professor x that mentored Wanda and she became the scarlet witch and wrecked havoc. That would be a great way to explain why he’s in the Illuminati and he needs to talk to Dr. Strange.

[@dwasp27moto41]

at some point it really crossed my mind that could scarlet be phoenix in a diffrent verse? yet it was never directly implied in the comics

[@slothbabymutation7934]

Ryan I love your well thought out ideas about characters. You always have logical points! I can see this being the case and the reason for Professor X coming to the MCU and saying "we should tell him the truth..."

[@evilraskel5569]

I'm happy to see how long they use Patrick Stewart for professor X .

[@Gainzilla903]

Just know I was BOOOing this as soon as I seen the thumbnail!!

[@junedfitcoach]

Wish I meet of day as your theories were superb 😍😍 Soo glad if your watching this😅

[@gtrraider84]

A Variant Wanda from a different timeline “no more mutants’d” the multiverse. That caused her children to disappear during WandaVision in Agatha’s basement. Scarlett Witch uses the dark hold to undo the spell. Multiverse chaos ensues and we have mutants get their memories and powers back in the MCU.

[@mightyzeus1e]

Hell yes, excited! I've been wondering (read: nervous) about how they would integrate the XCU into the MCU. Can't wait!

[@wizardofemeraldisle9079]

Man, you make more sense💯👍

[@DrDetfink]

This is a very interesting theory that I've never thought about...because Wanda is a confusing character that writers have flipped back and forth as a mutant or not.

[@pukupukupaopao]

Professor X is literally one of my fav characters in Marvel. XMen is my favorite as well so every time I see any of them I'm just so happy

[@OkamiSatsujin]

In the comics, Wanda's "No more mutants" was found to effect the multiverse and not just 616. Phoenix and Wanda will be separate entities, as the Phoenix exists in all realities as the flame of life even if it doesn't have a host. It'd be cool if they did the whole Shiar back story for this version of Charles and he has the encron crystal in his possession.

[@Bcpatriot0219]

Wasn’t it said early on that Wanda was going to have a big fight with a character from the Fox franchise? I know many have speculated at the time of a Wanda vs Phoenix fight.

[@burrahobbit]

I really really hope that we're getting a Professor X that hovers in

[@DJMarcO138]

Please, dear god - as much as Jackman was a great Wolvie, we need a new one. Stewart is one thing, but adding Jackman to the mix would be too much. It's high time we got a proper Wolvie if he returns anyway. Short, burly, surly, cigar chompin' and whiskey swilling antihero. Jackman was like if the handsome guy cosplayed as Wolvie (not including Logan in that critique, obvs). As per the MoM - I could see them just using Stewart to introduce to the MCU the idea of mutants, by way of Wanda. Remember - Wanda and Pietro in the MCU were referred to as "enhanced", and they implied that von Strucker experimented on them, and that's how they gained their powers. But maybe Xavier will shed light on the fact that she's actually a mutant, and him being one from whatever timeline/universe they say he's from, he'll be considered the mutant expert, and thus key for knowing how to combat her.

[@MrRm.33]

Honestly can’t wait

[@roniisablake]

Awesome theory!

[@kg8996]

Typo in "Phoenix" on the thumbnail mate! Love the videos

[@nsc2443]

Very excited 👍👍

[@COZAASYx93]

Screen crush gives me life

[@Dexxxtroyer]

Great theory. But SW and Phoenix are two completely different characters and each has a unique storyline and both have Earth shattering, multiversal consuming powers. I want their stories separated. Having them as Variants will be confusing.

[@UnmarketedRiQ]

Just an idea but Marvel can literally use House of M for Charles X's backstory. In his universe, he cared for Wanda and she started to lose control but somehow he contained it and joined the Illuminati so it wouldn't happen again in any reality. They detain Dr. Strange for past crimes BUT know that Wanda is on the hunt for her children in this universe and Professor X knows what that can lead to so he asks for his help. Just a thought. They're definitely going to reverse the House of M storyline so Wanda can introduce Mutants because she wants her kids to exist so I'm so excited for this!

[@vendeezel]

I'm good with losing Jackman as Wolverine (I want a more comic accurate one anyway) but McCavoy and Fassbender coming back would be epic, indeed. They could spitball everything else as long as those 2 come back 4 sure.

[@TacoJim]

I want Hugh Jackman back as Wolverine mostly so we can get him and Deadpool in a movie together again, but properly this time.