PHOENIX VS ENIGMA!! || Rise of the Powers of X 5, 2024 ||

[@comicbreakdown]

i said issue 10, its issue 5 and the final issue.

[@kingshadow8782]

Oh.

[@jrwilliams4029]

Thank you for not deigning to cover that “Miss Marvel or whatever it is that is going on.” I don’t think anyone who has followed the Krakoa era from the onset with House/Powers of X in 2019 would disagree that DEI characters and gratuitous titles diluted the greatest X-men story that could have been into an incoherent mess of timelines and loose ends. Miss Marvel, who will never be a mutant in my book, being foisted upon us and the X-men signifies this issue. She is the bane of Marvel comics, a thrice cancelled diversity zero who brought nothing to the story in Miss Marvel style. I am still holding onto hope that she will be killed in X-men 35 w/ no resurrection. That would be a great conclusion to the X-men.

[@datboiiazias]

She didn't need to absorb the mutant heaven to reach that level of power, but i understand why they did this instead of granting jean her White Phoenix form, they needed to get rid of resurrection and to shift how many mutants there were, ugh i loved this era 😫❤️

[@AnyoneEntertainment]

It will live on....well sort of on my other channel HireMeMarvel

[@jonadol]

True. I do feel they implied she couldn't go white phoenix yet cos she was still "fresh from the egg"

[@Lucretia19]

She was just reborn was just hatched from her egg

[@Lucretia19]

You don't realize it's her weakest form

[@oKiterrrr]

​@@Lucretia19 not really

[@lucariomew365]

I know Green Phoenix is more iconic, but I feel like the White Phoenix Outfit would be more appropriate.

[@Angel19santos]

You are the phoenix, now and forever. ❤️‍🔥🦅✨️🔥

[@uptowndadeboi7925]

Until the next writer

[@Angel19santos]

@@uptowndadeboi7925 se for chorar manda áudio.

[@Angel19santos]

@@uptowndadeboi7925 se for chorar manda áudio.

[@Angel19santos]

@@uptowndadeboi7925 É como nós brasileiros sempre dizemos " se for chorar, manda áudio "

[@felixlopez7908]

🐦‍🔥

[@nikolaoslavdakis9113]

Loved krakoa era... loved this issue. I am sad for the end of this era.

[@ZeeB...]

Me too but I love Arroko better they didn't play that weak shit lol.

[@doctorleak5312]

Even dominions think enigma is lame in comparison

[@5tonemebeforesucces776]

He’s above the one above all🤓 🤣🤣

[@MrTxGames1998]

Scott and Jean is finally reunited 👏

[@benjaminpointdexter7280]

Finally.

[@samuraison_cauley]

I…. I am so happy that Scott and Jean are back together, I was mad with grief when Jean was as killed off, but now I feel better now

[@resulnaki]

They aren't back, she is gonna be a cosmic superhero. Jean needs to stay away from the X-Men. She needs to be the new Captain Marvel

[@Cmon2828]

And it feels so gooood!

[@JDBossanova]

Gross

[@smithw1083]

Moira was like I hate it here being a mutant sucks and the phoenix read her mind and said no more moira You see what I did there 😂

[@DomSum7]

Tired of them losing their home. It’s like Utopia 2.0😢. Loved Krakoan era. They finally seemed dominant for once.

[@encognitusmaximus7598]

Saw the title and had to click on it asap. Man this does feel like a good bit to unpack. Curious to see future repercussions from this.

[@tracyalan7201]

We'll see about the White-Hot Room Krakoa Mutants & Resurrection. Hope is gone but she's part of Jean/Phoenix and Synch could have her powers already stashed in him. Could he use a old copy of the backup to restore a clone, is a possibility? We've seen Sinister & Nasty Beast make clones of themselves with memories of previous selves, so it doesn't have to done by the five to bring a copy of a decreased mutant. Krakoa, the island still exists, but might now be hiding away from humans, which could go to the Savage Land or join Arakko on Mars, it can do as it chooses. Hiding from the remnants of Orchis & governments will be what the mutants will do. We'll see what the next issue brings on Charles, as I can't get a handle from the review, whether Jean realizes that when Xavier/Moira's action left Enigma defenseless, that they could have probably have lost to Enigma, if Moira hadn't chose wisely. Xavier's actions were needed, contrary to everyone's thinking of Xavier. I'll have to read my copy when I pick it up.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

No, they cannot. Cloning is NOT an option as the eggs that are created by Egg are another completely separate dimension. Even if they did make a clone of Hope, she wouldn't have the same abilities or power or mentality as the original! Hope CANNOT replicated in any way, since she is the mutant Messiah!!

[@jasondavis2995]

Despite how rushed everything seemed. It wrapped up very well.... these data pages👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. Krakoa will return🥹

[@christopherbennett5858]

Heck, in the Cable series, he even refers to it as the first Krakoan era.

[@ML-yn9yu]

Love the Krakoa era , jean-with the phoenix was my fav character.

[@yoyomayne]

As big as the argument is about who'd win between Jean Grey and Scarlet Witch its good to see that, although indirectly, they worked TOGETHER to make this happen!

[@mcpics4448]

Well that end more spectacular than I thought

[@MrJohnblaine]

Jean will never die. We fans will never allow that

[@VoxMachina8]

This was absolutely incredible!!

[@ColeMichaels27]

Her basic form overpowering Enigma, even the dominions think Phoenix is too OP for them to battle with.

[@johnphamlore8073]

Talk about full circle. It was Kieron Gillen who super-charged Sinister in the first place to be a worthy opponent to the likes of the Phoenix, many years ago, when Sinister defeated the Phoenix Five around 2012, Avengers vs X-Men.

[@Borderlines]

Goddamn, the Phoenix is back

[@GM_MorganV]

It’s not the ending I wanted, but it is the ending I expected. I’m glad Arrako is still around, b/c I think that’s got a lot of untapped potential but probably needs a minute to let things settle.

[@goldenboy8361]

So… this big cosmic threat that the Beyonders destroyed the multiverse to contain… was one-shot by Jean? Wow, okay then.

[@jjqg6164]

The Phoenix Force is really powerfull

[@Greenwrath5514]

@@jjqg6164 but it’s still a let down. This the conclusion after how long buildup?!

[@nikko6493]

@@jjqg6164yea not that powerful lmao

[@jjqg6164]

@@nikko6493 The phoenix force was always the second or third most powerful character in Marvel, the idea has been around since the past, comics like Defenders Beyond or This one only confirm it, only TOAA which is obviously omnipotent, and possibly the real form of the Living Tribunal they are more powerful.

[@jjqg6164]

@@nikko6493 Even Dark Phoenix was considered a threat to the omniverse itself. I don't know why this surprises you.

[@user-uz2sj4zs7i]

There were so many x books that ties in to each other and I ask my self why? But now I see it helps each aspect of a story to be focus and breath with out being messy or over confusing.

[@jhol2752]

what many don't acknowledge is that krakoa was only Moira's dream, not Xavier's and not Magneto's when all she really truly wanted was to stop this cycle of seeing her friends die over and over and over. excited to see what/ who's dream/ vision the next era of x-men will centre around.

[@youngblaze9404]

That jean grey is in heat because of the Phoenix , makes her cheat on scott😂

[@Lucretia19]

This is just the beginning of Jean/Phoenix adventure🔥😩

[@user-yp2iy2ww5p]

I think the final issue would have the wet wrap up loose ends including MR And seeing Jean get her revenge On her will be so satisfying. I know they're not gonna bring back this character. She served her purpose and. She's gonna well Be a loose end which they will wrap up. ENIGMA the most generic and Lemus villains ever. Of all the talks saying he's that powerful, but really he was some. Guy who had powers but pretty much the Phoenix beat him easily And that's the end. Which makes him the most lame assessment villains by non.

[@nicholastam7727]

Haven't cared so much about X-men in a long time. To bad it was so rushed, though was happy with the ending.

[@Lucifer.s.understudy]

Krakoan Era was X-Men to perfection. literally.

[@rjhemedes]

I read this last night after buying it from my LCS. I am happy that both Xavier and Moira redeemed themselves and Moira got her "happy ending". I hope the X-Men are made aware of what Xavier did in the week he had to wrap up his affairs before he contacted the authorities to apprehend him. I like that cyborg Moira still could be pulled into the Astral Plane, because we already saw Nimrod itself could enter the Astral Plane. The 5 (minus Hope) are stuck in the White Hot Room. It would have to be Synch who joins the remaining 4 to be able to resurrect mutants again. There better be a really good reason why Storm would leave Arakko and relocate back to earth - joining the Avengers is a major step down for her.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

They already in a press release that by having Storm join the Avengers, they would have a mutant voice on the team and to show humans that mutants are not a great evil to be afraid of

[@rjhemedes]

@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw They already did this before under the original Captain America in Uncanny Avengers. It didn't change anything - mutants are still hated and feared the world over. Storm being an Avenger will change nothing since the Avengers are all about keeping the status quo. In contrast, the X-Men are all about change and Storm being the leader of Arakko was all about change. The Phoenix needs to go back in time and retcon Wanda and Maximoff into being mutants again, along with Franklin Richards.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

@@rjhemedes sorry, not happening. Franklin LOST his powers, remember? Actually, by having an OMEGA level mutant on the team, this humans will learn and UNDERSTAND that mutants are something to be feared!

[@rjhemedes]

@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw Never say never, especially when it comes to Marvel's history. Just several months ago, there was an issue of FF wherein it was revealed Franklin hid his powers and made himself forget that he has powers and can only access them once per year.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

@@rjhemedes yes, but why would he even help reset the universe or make Wanda and Pietro mutants again when he has no reason even obligation to do? The universe is fine as it is even if it's not perfect and Franklin DOESN'T even know Wanda and Pietro that well nor is he close friends with them

[@kingshadow8782]

Welcome back.

[@Vamroc]

So many questions yet to be answered...... is Legion still within Nightcrawler, was that JAMES HUDSON the son of Wolverine using his claws or Mimic

[@lou98t]

He’s not in Nightcrawler, he’s in the Hope Sword which Nightcrawler has.

[@dangelotaylor2149]

@lou98t which he can pull from inside of him unless that's not the sword he and MR pulled from inside him

[@highwaytoheaven99]

So New Krakoa is, what, a nation of mutants in another dimension? Like some sort of "Mutant Asgard"? I like that.

[@GinamosWithCherryOnTop]

Dominions talks like the emperor of mankind

[@RafaRodrigues]

Jean slayed! Carol, Jean, Ororo and Wanda. Aka Marvel’s most powerful beings.

[@Greenwrath5514]

You missed a few, Odin,Thor, galactus, legion, beyonder, molecule man and mistress death.

[@cally66]

I loved the krokoan era EVERYONE was there the intro of irakko mutants, we took mars, rise of x was everything the set up for swords of x was pretty nice too im interested to see how they are gonna top this

[@danielivanov930]

It was interesting to see different mutants with the phoenix force ,but it's still rushed and i probably expected a more epic battle between the phoenix and enigma . On one page i noticed Storm to be with her classic look and the next page Storm is illustrated with her current look when she's with the phoenix force on both pages ,rushed 😑. The artwork was good though. Let's see where they will go with Krakoa and Arrako and what they will do with Xavier .

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

Neither. Both Krakoa and Arrako will NOT be mentioned or brought back when the new era begins

[@danielivanov930]

Ohh , now i get why there are 2 versions of Storm drawn,cause Jean pulled mutants from every dimention who has ever lived 😅,also is that Fantomex between Synch and x23 on the left side 9:17 ? I guess there is a reality where he's a mutant and not a mutate if that's him .

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

@@danielivanov930 I think those are just metaphysical manifestations of them and not the actual real ones

[@danielivanov930]

@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw yea i agree

[@blackphoenix77]

Loved that scene with Phoenix and all the X-Men. What i think is stupid is Xavier being arrested. He's the head of state of an entire nation; he should have diplomatic immunity! This would be considered an act of war by any other country.

[@sandroazevedo6680]

Ele deveria é ser morto, a Jean Grey deveria é deletar ele como ela fez no filme.

[@JosephHandibode]

as magneto told storm watch xavier he wants be perceived as good and would martyr himself and other mutants to achieve it. magneto usually always right.

[@geroshand8623]

He quite literally committed war crimes for Orchis under threat, killing an untold number of humans for them, directly assaulting likely various levels of worldwide governments… Him being arrested and imprisoned, is surprisingly the least I expected him to be given. They could have always killed him, but they probably recognize extenuating circumstances and gave him life imprisonment instead.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

No, he's not a leader anymore. Plus he murdered a lot humans that were trying to capture him when all of this stuff happened

[@johnfrederickudtujan8337]

​@@geroshand8623I hope he is Prisoner X and the X-Men will find a way to rescue him. Maybe there will be a Trial of Xavier in future issues.

[@Carl-vg5zt]

Love me a red head , Jean ❤😂

[@User12347ejdj]

Oh yeah!

[@kingshadow8782]

You are First!

[@User12347ejdj]

@@kingshadow8782thank you king!

[@kingshadow8782]

​@Viviorkogaming Your welcome Buddy:)

[@devegas4910]

“Every mutant soul”… just so we’re clear, that means 16 million mutants on genosha as most of them never got resurrected. And as well, However many mutants from Arakko who got killed by Uranos or died period. Remember that Destiny told Moira in her third life. She saw ten lives for Moira, eleven if she “made the right choice”. Welcome to life number 11

[@lou98t]

dope issue...... I just thought Legion was going to be involved smh

[@jasondavis2995]

He kinda was

[@lou98t]

@@jasondavis2995 what you mean? He wasn’t in the WTR with everyone, he’s still in the Hope Sword

[@johnfrederickudtujan8337]

​@@lou98tDo you think Jean will let Legion and Exodus be the caretaker of New Krakoa in the White Hot Room?

[@lou98t]

@@johnfrederickudtujan8337 I don’t think so…maybe Hope. No one trust in Legion enough to let him do that but he easily could. It sucks that they made him take the Altar down...because that's essentially what just happened. Jean gave them another home to stay at, I don't know if Marvel writers will ever let Legion be the hero honestly.

[@itsjames1969]

This was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@AlecValenzuela-ib6zc]

I thought Enigma was supposedly stronger than the One Above All. So how do the rankings work now? 1. The Phoenix 2. The One Above All 3. Enigma?

[@jjqg6164]

Nah lol TOAA is omnipotent

[@jjqg6164]

But Phoenix or Living Tribunal true self is the second most powerfull character in Marvel.

[@floydlholt9829]

Don't forget about the "operational" Cerebo backup hidden in the Atlantic ocean which is meantion recently in this storyline.

[@DSEAYEO]

I don’t know if it’s part of the same story but I want to know what about those X-men (may have been a Wanda storyline) that died that could possibly come back like Thunderbird .

[@mariobrito427]

Satisfying enough conclusion, but i feel there are maybe a few loose ends. For example, who was the Trickster Titan that sent Omega Sentinel's consciousness back in time? Was it Enigma? Moira? Did we ever get an answer?

[@MrUniq]

So after all these years we are back to the pre Krakoa status of Xteams. All those mutants who died over the years and resurrected are basically in Mutant heaven...plus seems like they conveniently took mutants out of the loop who were difficult to write for like Hope.

[@MrSalazar395]

What's up with that Tiger on that chart? The phoenix has a natural enemy? Are there a black tortoise and azure dragon too?

[@johncampbell1191]

Thank you for all the videos catching me up on the story. Overall, messy, poor writing imo. I believe the rumors of Marvel rushing to wipe out the xmen universe to restart it with a closer similarity to what's planned for the MCU, and that worries me greatly (especially with the upcoming random unknowns in Exceptional Xmen, plus the peculiar selection of Oya and Kid Omega into the main Xmen roster). All I'm saying is, the Xmen deserved better than this.

[@ensabrenoir5669]

.....so whats the point of Jeans solo series.......did enigma manage to change something..... ....whoah at 9:37 .......is that james Hudson? wolverines son?

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

To do Phoenix stuff as she is now a cosmic being, similar to Silver surfer who always constantly traveling the universe to do GOOD

[@davidshirley4696]

She washed him. Without breaking a sweat. Lol

[@Greenwrath5514]

Bro after all that build up just for that kinda makes this a let down ngl

[@kingshadow8782]

Hype!

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

I thought that Charles Xavier was going to pull something, like the thing that he did to the 13 year old Moira was some kind of mental implant so that he can access her mind and pass through to Enigma, and that he was going to go to Enigma when he brought all of the other dominions together and he would overtake Enigma and absorbe the rest of the dominions in him in some way and he becomes like the ultimate dominion who is ridiculously powerful. I do find it a bummer that resurrection is off of the table because however cheap and convenient that it was to have a way to bring back characters I liked it because it was just a set system in place unlike past things where characters died and it turns out that they didn't actually die because of plot, or if they do die they just come back, either by Apokolypse or something else. Now... who knows what is going to happen. Unless there is another way for resurrection through maybe Mr. Sinister, or even Beast, because Beast was able to resurrect himself without the use of the five. So we will see what happens next.

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

No, Xavier cannot absorb A Dominion as it will just EAT / ABSORB him if he tried that! 😅

[@keeezahsimms8698]

I just love breakdown time

[@maryuris6573]

I have a question in the picture I can see kamala, Gambit , Wolverine storm , are they died ? What happen because I don't understand , i Believe that they had revived to figjt in the earth ?

[@victormartins3249]

Missing Krakoa already!!!

[@coldzzzzxxxx]

So Scarlet witch created the heaven knowing Jean would get them or?

[@dirtandsilkk]

Feels like the X-men will be on earth, making it better so new krakoa can come back and rebuild properly

[@MatthewLoh-ru1mw]

Nope. Not happening. Krakoa is gone and sealed away. The X-men will just back to doing typical X-men stuff

[@benparrish672]

Does Phoenix bring Warren Worthington the 3rd Angel/Archangel back in this?!?

[@αντωνηςτζιτζης-ε9ε]

enigma reminds me the AI from xeelee sequence

[@juelsmyers]

Forgetmenot can’t catch a break 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 homie literally was back in the era and got killed off

[@ensabahnur7657]

Prisoner X is a Woman but forgot who it is! This was a decent conclusion!

[@johnfrederickudtujan8337]

Do you think it's Professor X or is it Cassandra Nova?

[@VolguusZildrohar]

@@johnfrederickudtujan8337 Cassandra would be about 2 billion years old, having been left behind in Threshold. if it is her, she would have been awfully quiet about not revealing herself when the Marauders returned.

[@johnfrederickudtujan8337]

@@VolguusZildrohar I agree. Based on X-Men #35, I'm guessing Prisoner X is Professor X.

[@arc7375]

Obviously, Phoenix would win. Just look at Enigma. It looks just like Machamp. And if Pokémon has taught me anything, it’s that Psychic-type is super-effective against Fighting-type.

[@malicyoung9293]

Speaking of your last word cbguy, I think resurrection is off the table now because hope is out of the picture right? She's the essential member of the five, and she's in the Phoenix now, right? Another interesting note: you mentioned Arrako and new Krakoa in the white hot room, but from what I understand after reading the last issue of Rise of the powers is that Krakoa itself--the original island itself has been restored by now, probably due to apocalypse sacrificing Wrongslide in the last crucible. On page 4, I believe, a location stamp indicates that Scott and the other X Men, along with Destiny and Sinister, are on "Krakoa, Earth". Not new Krakoa. Not Arrako. They are presumably still there after Jean returns at the end of the issue, having vanquished Enigma. So with Orchis and Nimrod obliterated and Enigma stomped out, what is it that finally destroys Krakoa? Why is Destiny still so scared, even after the mutants have prevailed? What's waiting for the X Men in issue 35/700?

[@jayburn00]

I thought this was a really good way of resetting things all things considered (with all the timy wimy stuff it would be hard to manage). It seems Moira will go back to her original story line in effect, where she is a non-mutant that is associated with mutants, and can have the regular relationships she had without her being an enemy or causing craziness to happen. The way i interpret it is the Phoenix sort of reset the timeline in such a way that krakoa exists outside of time-space, but the main time line doesn't really have the rise of krakoa happen (it is now an alternative timeline of sorts), or perhaps I'm mistaken. Again, as the Doctor said, it's all timey wimey.... (By the way, there is a way the marvel multiverse and doctor who intersect, they have both had crossovers with star trek the next generation (there is an xmen star Trek crossover and a doctor who star trek crossover)). To be honest, I think krakoa must have happened to some degree in the main time line but not sure what the time line actually is.

[@suoutamaki14]

want white phoenix back but you can't write stories with that form. can't wait for the upcoming phoenix comics.

[@Godzilla2000X]

They crap out. They could of did more with Krakoa.

[@LuisF99]

But Mars is still theirs? I have not followed all the latest stories.

[@livimarmarchan1359]

Jean Grey is the best!

[@melikakh.5222]

Oh professor thay can never make hate you😭😭

[@Nova-oj2eu]

Wait who is The Tiger?

[@wizendsage757]

Why wasn’t Jean able to locate Moria until Moria activated the “signal” of Jean had access to all of time? Why did burning Moria allow Jean to confront Essex?

[@jackieanderson9408]

Good afternoon comic break down 😊😁

[@lucyhalefan581]

Pretty good ❤

[@josephstibbins5278]

Xmen is the only comic keeping marvel afloat for me

[@jackieanderson9408]

Good.👍🏿

[@viciousrich]

A Phoenix Susanoo? 🤣 Mr. Sinister, I don't wanna see that dude in any form for awhile. So Mystique and Destiny are cool now. oh look there's sinister at the bottom right at 10:11, the plot has some holes, let's just be glad its over.

[@comicbreakdown]

I'm not I loved it

[@Lucifer.s.understudy]

If Enigma is gone then they can bring Krakoa back.

[@paulrobinson8330]

Dopespill

[@comicbreakdown]

Love him

[@lowlevelplato]

I’m not looking forward to X-men going forward. This era definitely had some fumbles, especially when it came to wolverine. Arrako, storm, and legion shined through though. I don’t really care for sinister so a story where he’s multiplied by 4 wouldn’t sound like something I would be into but sins of sinister was dumb alternate timeline fun. Children of the vault was a good concept too. Oh well .

[@PeanutButter21505]

Let’s gooooooooooo

[@jsbphoenix1]

out of everything happen, i was wonder if i had miss one issue or something but… what the hell happen to juggernaut? last thing i remember was him protect the krakoa then next thing he disappear and never seen him again?

[@comicbreakdown]

It never really says lol

[@anthonyroundtree5]

I knew Xavier had a plan, but too bad he'll never get the recognition.

[@AmRealityInc]

Can someone give me the clif notes on Dominions?

[@blackphoenix77]

They're basically Mr. Sinister with massive amounts of power.

[@VolguusZildrohar]

Techno intelligence existing outside of spacetime. The first Dominion was the Phalanx, which the X-men have faced a few times before. Essex (Sinister) predicted the rise of computer intelligence back when he was human in the Victorian era so created his own hive of clones to combat them, a collective intelligence giving rise to his becoming a Dominion himself. He was the only thing that was a true threat to the One Above All, a timetravelling god that manipulated events so him and his little clones would always exist and never face a threat they couldn't overcome or avoid. When he attempted to spread beyond universe 616, the Beyonders employed the Enigma Force, the same power Brock (Venom) used to slay Knull, to lock him to this universe, though he was still able to communicate with Dominions outside of his sphere of influence.

[@jaimemarquez2597]

Hmm. So does this mean Prof X retains all the memories? Are we in a different time line now because Moira doesn't get her powers? What about storm having the ability to use Uranos? Is that a different time line? Universe? I'm starting to confuse myself 😂

[@comicbreakdown]

I think moria went to a new timeline but this timeline remains intact. So Moira is removed from this timeline and moved into her own. This timeline will continue on with everything that has happened.

[@jaimemarquez2597]

@@comicbreakdown okay, so then Prof X can use the 5 to resurrect anyone since on this timeline he has cerebro backing people's mind still.

[@comicbreakdown]

@jaimemarquez2597 if the 5 are in the white hot room they cant. Currently there is nonway to get there. So they are lost technically. Along with mysterim

[@jaimemarquez2597]

@@comicbreakdown oh, yeah. Duh lol. But then if they were Jean has their powers as the Phoenix so then she can resurrect them.

[@akayokalumba5151]

This is a w

[@sandroazevedo6680]

Estão chirando porque a entidade Jean Grey fênix deletou o enigma como um só golpe assím como já fez com o apocalipse tanto nos quadrinhos quanto no filme, estão com raiva porque a mãe da criação detetou um bucha e mostrou que é o poder absoluto do universo.

[@shawnboahene5231]

Thank the LORD this awful era is gone

[@LouvreXIII]

I said the same thing when the X-Men vs Inhumans era was happening.

[@mauriciomartell2433]

XAVIER WAS RIGHT!

[@akayokalumba5151]

Where is I forget her name, the female colossus

[@Mntguy-nr9vl]

It's nice to see Jean back with the Phoenix, May it last. Hopefully they can just keep her status quo without making her crazy or killing her in the stupidest ways. I'm excited for her limited series. I have not enjoyed the last 5 years of the X-Men I did not like it at all and I'm hoping we go back to the roots of simple comic books and not living Islands.

[@user-ox9ob2qh1t]

It's not a limited series it's an ongoing

[@weed22k]

penix vs. smegma

[@Alex-jd2yx]

Why are the comic battles so short, i never understand this, DBZ does it with ease, no excuses

[@younisabdeldyem7349]

then how is enigma stronger than TOAA

[@Volthoom]

So outside of how incredibly-pathetic "Enigma"(ima just gonna call him Essex, he doesn't deserve a nickname) ended up being, we do recognize that the balance of power on Earth is now completely fucked, right? All the most-powerful mutants are alive and well(except Quentin, apparently, who took the L and died for basically no reason), with the cosmic-entity-defeating Phoenix Force actively on their side and with absolutely zero "natural predators" left - Orchis gone, children of the vault gone, Sinister will either be dealt with in X-Men 35 or be in hiding for a long-ass time. What is even left for X-Men as far as villains go? Fighting Galactus? I mean Jean'll solo him in about 5 minutes at this point, she soloed Essex with little issue and he was hyped as an overwhelming threat to the entire Multiverse.

[@kingredzgaming8588]

The five is in the white hot room

[@deezyeljefe3872]

TOAA is still top dog💪🏾💪🏾💯💯

[@Jyqavonowens]

You mad she solo your fav

[@deezyeljefe3872]

@@JyqavonowensEnigma was overhyped and underwhelming...getting curbstomped by the Phoenix, never my fave...u can't read.

[@resulnaki]

​@@deezyeljefe3872well Phoenix is second only to toaa, so it's normal. Nothing can beat the true Phoenix, just the vessels

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

​@@resulnaki Nah there are abstracts beyond even the phoenix force and we saw that in Al Ewings defenders run like Never queen is beyond the white hot room, Oblivion is beyond the Phoenix, TOBA is beyond the Phoenix and a few others that rival it like the goblin force and Tiger god.

[@resulnaki]

@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 no there aren't. Even in defenders, Phoenix was confirmed to be highest. It's marvel canon, Phoenix second only to toaa. Oblivion was and is always below Phoenix. Phoenix isn't an abstract being, it's a force. It's different than cosmic beings

[@johnfrederickudtujan8337]

I wonder where is Cassandra Nova. She could have rescued her twin brother Charles and fought against Moira.

[@comicbreakdown]

They trapped her in the past after her bs in marauders

[@SuiSanada]

Enigma was a really interesting character, its a shame he was dwindled off to be phoenix fodder. Due Defenders Beyond shouldn't Jean be on par with the one above all now? And even if so, what kind of calamity could ever hope to challenge the X-men now? Only a few like Dr. Doom, the lost one, franklin richards, Godbiotes Venom/Carnage, and owen reese might pose a threat. Which raises the question why would of these omnipotent beings even want to attack in the first place. (Besides Carnage ofc)

[@5tonemebeforesucces776]

No. Enigma was never a threat to the one above all to begin with, always ran and hid from his enemies, even Galactus is said to be is enemy so he’s miles away from being comparable to TOAA as for Jean also no. TOAA is her source, the whole phoenix gimmick is literally just one his abilities; conceptual fire manipulation

[@5tonemebeforesucces776]

Nothing is a threat to the TOAA blue marvel was saying nonsense when he said he’s surpassable as that clearly isn’t the case he’s literally GOD. Everything and nothing

[@edgargalicia5071]

Well, they explain it in the comic, the phoenix was practically the only way to defeat Dominion, it has always been on the highest scale of Marvel

[@5tonemebeforesucces776]

@@edgargalicia5071 no ? Galactus is said to be its enemy