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[@Saberspark]

Been working my ASS off trying to finish my Balto video but Universal keeps blocking it. It's over an hour and a half long and it's genuinely one of the best projects me and my team have ever worked on but we NEED for it to get in the clear before uploading. As of right now, I'm hopeful for a release on the 6th of May but fingers crossed. Apologies for the silence on the channel, aiming to turn things around here in May with some long-awaited projects. Thanks again for the support folks!

[@annielemon]

You got this saber!!!! So excited to see it! Take as much time for it as you need!💕💕

[@baymaxinarmor4133]

After everything that KZbin and Universal has put you through, You really really should start considering uploading the video to another site. Hell at this point it's the only way.

[@bomberbg1249]

Day 211 of asking you to read Twokinds

[@allenmurallo3730]

Hopefully you'll be able to past the copyright system. Good luck, man!

[@peachy0036]

no worries saber!! u got this :)

[@Loki_bear]

I guess you could say this movie was kept… under wraps 😎

[@bomberbg1249]

I died

[@LocalGooberGoobs]

💀

[@ma3mc3mu-X]

“Under wraps” wins it! *gives you like*

[@bobisapanda2655]

LoL 😅

[@Bigwillystyle707]

You need to be shot.....that was too good!

[@Hromovlad1]

Also, Egyptians did describe the afterlife as being exactly like the normal life, with everyone resuming the same duties they had in life

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

Even in death I still serve

[@oliverparis3361]

Then what's the point?

[@Hromovlad1]

@@oliverparis3361 You will live forever with no disease, and there are no assholes, since only good people go to the afterlife

[@oliverparis3361]

@@Hromovlad1 That just sounds like modern day but with less steps.

[@leetri]

@@oliverparis3361 I wouldn't say modern day has no assholes, and there's still plenty of disease

[@joaomartins9800]

The fact the egyptian afterlife isn't very different from life itself is actually accurate for egyptian religion. Most egyptian depictions of the afterlife we know show that, after arriving at Sekhet-Aaru (the "Field of Reeds", essentially the Egyptian paradise), the people still need to work and farm, the difference being that they're now immortal and the afterlife is so fertile they can eat the same food as the gods and become more like them. It's basically the normal world, but the climate is always perfect and everyone is a healthy, well-fed superhuman.

[@markusbarten455]

The only downside is, that if you were a farmer or commoner you were supposed to get back to work after you died. Unless you were buried with some magic doll things that you get to work instead of you.

[@Anonymous-73]

“Hi welcome to heaven now GET BACK TO WORK for the best food you’ve ever eaten”

[@poisonpenfairy2844]

Came here to say this 😂

[@XDamainI]

I figured it was something like this and the movie took for granted that they'd have to explain it to ignorant Americans

[@thefungiwhisperer2313]

Honestly..... that sounds pretty alright, even if you still got to work, that sounds like my ideal afterlife

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

17:00 - Actually, a common misconception. Workers on the pyramids were paid, and catered for. They were not slaves, they were artisans and workers recruited from all over the kingdom.

[@DapaChrons]

And yet, 4000 died during the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Likely there was a mix of paid and slave labour

[@powerist209]

OR maybe "bad labor practices", like say someone made a mistake, someone made shoddy work on scaffolding or building materials that collapsed and killed the work crew, and/or exposure to hazardous materials (like stone and wood dust, lead, etc).@@DapaChrons

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Ah, so they were free to leave if they wanted?

[@aaronluisdelacruz4212]

​@@lyndsaybrown8471 yes.

[@tmarritt]

It was largely a way to keep the population employed & paid between farming seasons. I mean they could obviously choose not to work... But I have the feeling the alternative was probably starvation.

[@tristongood7417]

"why are you white" my brother in christ, there is alot of greek blood in them.

[@c.khullabaloo4745]

As a huge Egyptian mythology geek, there is so, SO much potential here and I'm sad they didn't expand upon their use of Egyptian culture and beliefs. Basically, the Afterlife is kind of like everyday life, with wheat fields and animals to hunt (so yes the dead can eat and technically sleep). In order to get there though, the soul has to go through many passages that contain many demons and trials that will kill you (which is why the body has to have a lot of spells laid on them to protect them for the journey). I will give credit for the crocodile pet. Crocodiles were considered sacred and people did mummify them. 13:39 Also there actually are phoenixes in Egyptian mythology. But they are called Bennu birds and resemble more like herons and are associated with Ra.

[@roxassora2706]

Cats are also sacred

[@PikaLink91]

@@roxassora2706 Are there animals that are NOT sacred in Egypt?

[@ratoh1710]

The phoenix that most people in the west think of may have its origin in the Egyptian phoenix but we have no truly definitive evidence of it

[@roxassora2706]

@@PikaLink91 I'm unsure as I mostly know of cats

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

Phoenix is a Greek word.

[@seleuf]

9:21 Not sure I agree with this sentiment? The whole thing about bandage-wrapped undead monsters coming back to hunt the living is a Western thing. The Ancient Egyptian thing with mummies was to make sure they made it to the afterlife with all their stuff, body and _beauty_ included.

[@erismason3441]

I agree with you... disagreeing with Saber here. I always thought the whole wrapped, shambling, moaning mummy thing was a Hollywood invention that was likely (don't know for sure but hey, it's Hollywood) insensitive to actual Egyptian culture.

[@tonypringles2285]

well they failed at keeping them beautiful

[@KashaLupul]

​@tonypringles2285 they look like Egyptians I guess they aren't your jam But the male lead was foooine

[@Salamandy2.0]

​@@KashaLupulsame here lol...

[@riotkitty]

Egyptians are very mixed. Dark, light, somewhere in between, etc etc. Not all just one skin tone throughout the populace. So it really isn’t a big deal, even royalty sometimes were white or not even from Egypt due to various war campaigns and the mixing of the populace with slaves and migrants from other countries that were conquered.

[@Val17282]

It was refreshing to read this since many people keep arguing that Anicent Egyptians were only one race or another, when evidence suggests otherwise. Its very strange.

[@riotkitty]

@@Val17282 right back at ya, it’s refreshing to hear your response. Usually when I say this I am called racist.💀

[@Val17282]

@@riotkitty There were brown egyptians descending from the Middle East. White egyptians descending from places like Greek or Rome. And black egyptians from places like Nubia. But people can't seem to or refuse to understand that.

[@umii-jh5fr]

@@Val17282 even people native to Egypt themselves were very diverse in tones and features since thousands of years proven many time why is it so hard to accept for many people?

[@mariamsoliman8689]

Yessss thank u for saying that, I’m Egyptian and I always see ppl get mad when Egyptian characters (or Arabic in general) are not dark skinned, like yes we have both yk white and dark and in between

[@timwoods2852]

There was a show on during the late 90s called Mummies ALIVE! It actually tries to incorporate Egyptian mythos into it's story, and it had the mummies actually be undead. They had creepy blue flesh, their bandages were tattered and worn, one dude was missing his whole arm, and they could make themselves freaky when interacting with people; they could make their faces distort and shriek like monsters.

[@sixrabbits3972]

Yes! I'm not the only one who remembers that show! I kept expecting him to mention it as a comparison.

[@dustyrose192]

bro that show sounds awesome

[@schwarzerritter5724]

@@dustyrose192 Mummies Alive was pretty much one of many, many Turtles clones, but it was alright.

[@Tardisntimbits]

To be completely fair to the film, if you know anything about Ancient Egyptian mythology, particularly the funereal rites and the implications of them, you'll know that going in, the afterlife is MEANT to be a continuation of real life. Pharoahs, nobles, and (to a MUCH lesser extent) common folk were buried with little statues called 'ushabti'. They were meant to serve them in the afterlife, so that the lives they knew would continue. The statues were meant to allow those that were buried with them to do the work the deceased did in life, if they so chose to use them. Life in the Field of Reeds was meant to be the optimal version of the life they once lived, free from illness, suffering and stife. For the everyday Egyptian, if their body is prepared properly, and their heart is weighed as pure(NOTE: I am oversimplifying this a GREAT deal, the journey through the afterlife as per the Book of the Dead is complex), then they could expect their life to just continue on as normal. Pharoahs would be ascended to Godhood, and their servants could expect to continue their service when they die. So, yes, merchants would still be merchants, whether their shabtis did the work, or they themselves. Life would move on, as per the beliefs of the time (which also vary depending on the time period). All that being said, it doesn't prevent this movie from being a vapid mess, lol.

[@_pan-tastic_28]

Nice profile picture!

[@Seelenfisch]

Looking at the skeleton make-up just make me think that the character designers (or whoever else was responsible for that) don't know what mummies are, because the whole point of mummification is that they are NOT skeletons...

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@DePhoegonIsle]

Well fair enough, but mummies would look very skeletal like, or at the very least extremely malnourished to the point of impossible standards.

[@CatCheshire]

​@@DePhoegonIsle Yeah, skeleton in really dry skin Edit: they lack the skin part

[@Jhud69]

@@DePhoegonIsle Depends, the Incan child sacrifice girl mummy looks pretty normal despite being mummified

[@Anonymous-73]

They’re basically just human jerky

[@unhingedunit562]

One thing I will say is that there are actually a decent number of Pharaohs that were white in Egypt. This is commonly called the Ptolemaic Period/Kingdom/Dynasty, in which Ptolemy, a Greek/Macedonian man, went there to rule because Alexander the Great had Egypt under his thumb for reasons I can't quite remember. This is the last dynasty of Pharaohs before the Roman Empire took over. Cleopatra VII (aka the famous one) was the last Pharaoh of Egypt, and was most likely white. The Pharaohs during this dynasty were likely to stay white due to inbreeding.

[@YourKingJDG]

I’ll have to do more research but this is acceptable, hate it when people say Egypt has always been white or arab.

[@Jhud69]

@@YourKingJDG They definitely weren't white until Romans happened but they also weren't a monolith as some people might think. Cleopatra was for sure white though.

[@kylenielsen5083]

By that logic we should include the Pharaohs from Nubia.

[@Bosihiov]

I was going to say something similar about the Ptomleys. I also think something people miss is that in modern day, Arabized Egypt people still run the whole spectrum of color as the depictions of various pharaohs from Dynastic Egypt did as well. Everything from white to brown to black. It just feels weird that it seems most of the Egyptian characters in this movie were white people as that’s not accurate, the same way portraying Egypt as always being Arab or always being black or always being any sort of monolithic thing.

[@pepepecaspicapapas4726]

>white people exists due inbreeding It checks out

[@YuaXIII]

>"do your homework and research it" >"I don't know anything about Ancient Egypt" ... man.

[@CrayCrayslab]

A lot of Egyptians are lighter skinned, I have several friends from there and only one of them looks like the folks in the prince of Egypt. One thing they’re all upset about is how Netflix made Cleopatra black, when she obviously isn’t

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

You can’t say *she obviously isn’t * she definitely had white from her father, but we have no idea who her mother was. It’s most likely she was Grecian but we can’t know for absolute sure.

[@DapaChrons]

Cleo was Greek anyway

[@UwU-235]

@@justkittensbeingkittens5892 this whole we dont know for sure nonsense is a modern thing that people came up with, its been well established through historical documents that cleo was an incest baby. she is completely greek. the only thing up in the air about cleos mother is if it was cleo v or cleo vi and even then most documents point towards cleo v with the ones pointing towards cleo vi being vague and murky at best.

[@TonyPratt-pw3yt]

You can’t be that dumb ancient Egyptians weren’t lighter skinned there were dark until the Romans took over. Your friends are obviously light skinned because there not ancient Egyptians there mostly mixed Arabs.

[@Jonathan_Collins]

That is genuinely surprising. I heard about this movie coming out this year but ended up finding out that it isn’t an American movie, which would definitely explain why many people haven’t heard of this. But it is genuinely surprising that this is somehow a success. Makes me wanna check it out a bit

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@argo9750]

I saw it because monster girls are my jam. It was definitely aimed at younger demographic. Wouldn't recommend it if you're older than 12 lol

[@PikaLink91]

@@argo9750 The trailer and its lame jokes severely underwhelmed me... but since Saber brought so much attention to the waifu mummy, I might just change my mind and go see it.

[@OpinionParade]

Worth it, just to support a smaller studio, and non-American production. I believe he said this was a Mexican studio working in partnership with Warner Bros and with British casting? Seems like the sort of stuff we should encourage.

[@MrTHF]

​@@OpinionParade Spanish*. I live in the Spanish city where 4Cats is located.

[@distance7721]

So, there were a LOT of different pharaohs from a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Cleopatra, for example, came from the Ptolemaic Dynasty, which was Greek. Native Egyptians are actually closer to Middle-Easterners in terms of appearance and genetic background, rather than Africans, though there were a few dynasties that came from further south in the African continent. Overall, though, it'd be pretty accurate to portray Egyptians as pretty light-skinned

[@YourKingJDG]

Native egyptians were black peoples, Arabs conquered Egypt

[@distance7721]

@@YourKingJDG Afrocentrist posting cope

[@EnraiChannel]

@@YourKingJDG You could use a map.

[@SDArgo_FoC]

@@YourKingJDG only the dynasty of the black pharaohs, the other multiple millennia long dynasties are not

[@distance7721]

@arianna1906 True, though a historically accurate Egypt would still be majority light-skinned, and there's not much wrong with the models in the film

[@kaciekk]

It's really unfortunate that this film did not have good writing, because I think the animation style is actually really appealing

[@Scrofar]

The style is kind of basic to me, maybe even generic, but still more appealing than most other films who lack any artistic style. The animators did a great job.

[@osets2117]

It looks like yet another Disney movie, safe and generic

[@THahhhh]

​@@Scrofar its giving peabody and sherman

[@aerickmon3350]

It makes the girl really cute

[@mattwolf7698]

It looks the same as most other animated movies out now

[@yundarling4941]

"They look white" have you seen Remi Malik? Or any other irl Egyptian?

[@clarehidalgo]

*Rami

[@MichaelHaneline]

Saber I love ya and I believe you that the movie was basic, but you gotta know it's a bad look to admit you know nothing about Egyptian mythology and then complain about them not doing their research, especially on the things they actually got right? Maybe YOU should have done more research? It's cool man, I guess we all have our Dunning-Kruger moments.

[@LichCrypt]

He admits to be ignorant about the topic of Egyptian history and mythology, then proceeds to complain about things that are actually accurate.

[@YourKingJDG]

Sabers right, Ancient Egyptians were black. Stop whitewashing culture

[@sepulcher_stalker]

I agree. He really should have done more research. The Egyptians in afterlife were, to my understanding, supposed to look exactly the same as the time they died. And their afterlife mirrored the real world! At least that's one thing the movie got accurate...

[@LichCrypt]

@@sepulcher_stalker Something that pissed me off a little bit was his fixation on a "portal." I'm sorry, but there was no "portal" to the afterlife in Egyptian mythology. The Tomb itself was the portal to the afterlife, which certain souls could use back and forth. Their means of travel was the sarcophagus (except for the Pharaohs, they got special boats). We also have to consider that in the ancient world, their Underworlds were physical locations and not "other dimensions." For example, the Greeks believed that they could reach Hades through caves. It was sort of a mix of the two concepts for the Egyptians - Duat was both a physical location and a spiritual realm, which is why they placed such emphasis in burying people with their belongings. So yeah, no portal. All that was needed was the tomb.

[@BBJ111]

@Keebs I think because stereotypically in western culture, we think of Egyptians as dark skinned when many of them are actually a lighter shade of brown. There are also lots of African Americans that claim ancient Egyptians were black when I've seen MANY actual Egyptians online get angry by this claim saying that black people are stealing their people and culture from them trying to claim it as their own when Egyptians are their own thing, it's their own race, their own people, and their own culture. As An American who knows better, I apologize for them.

[@BunnyBoo100-18]

@@BBJ111 we never said Egyptians were black and this is coming from an actual black person maybe you need to mind your business and stay in your lane. We know that Egyptians are their own race😒

[@candycane1744]

This movie had a weird and predictable plot but at the same time it was a breathe of fresh air from all these reboots and sequels

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Or the millions of superhero movies that come out. Maybe that’s why this movie did so well, we were judging it on a curve.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯💯👍

[@ARandomMinecraftVillager]

Something completely random about this that I love is that the studio's name is 4 Cats "Cuatro Gatos" ("Four Cats" in Spanish) is an idiom that means something like "Random People," so saying the movie was made by Cuatro Gatos in Spanish sounds like you are saying "It was made by some randos" lol

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

"A very small ammount of randos" To be specific.

[@MrTHF]

Pensaba que era solo "poca gente"

[@P0tra33]

It is also usually used more for discribing a setting with very few people, ex: there will be 4 cats at the party (there won’t be much people at the party) = habrá cuatro gatos en la fiesta

[@alexanderthealright]

Ironically, it seems like there were only, like, four people in any given scene in this film. E M P T Y

[@Biscuity_hole]

​@@alexanderthealright Right? The place where they're taken is seemingly empty and with just 4 characters to fill it (Tut, Nefer, the kid, and the crocodile). I can see why Saberspark said it's boring and the world building doesn't make any sense

[@OnlyPretending]

Saberspark: "Why are you white?" Me: *Facepalm* "Fucking american..." They clearly look Mediterranean, and a slightly lighter tan might actually very fitting depending on which time period we are talking about and given they are royalties. Also we don't actually know exactly what shade of tan the ancient Egyptians would have had anyways, so what's the point of even arguing this to begin with? If anything they might look a bit Spanish, which would make sense given its a Spanish film. But then again, the Spanish are not "white" as you call it either.

[@LaPaginadiLeonardo]

Remember: they made the Cleopatra "documentary"

[@kazuma_matata1707]

As someone who has many interest for Egyptian culture, i can say that this movie could make a better story if they involves Egyptian gods and goddesses. The gods could either be a guide for Nefer, or they could help Nefer and her team to go to the future to steal back what the archeologist had stolen from them (like they could be the one who makes the portal and gives them time limit). The movie makes a lot of nonsense plot, and refuse to explain it. I just kinda hope that if they really make a sequel, Let’s hope it’ll gives us more to the story and telling us more as to why the mummies are still alive even after thousands of years being buried under ground.

[@entity-36572-b]

The ancient Egyptian believed the afterlife to be a world nearly identical to are own, with sleep food and labour all remaining necessary over there. The portrail of mummies engaging in these things is therefore in line with what we would expect.

[@faeb.9618]

yknow this is the first time i hear about how the actual afterline in egyptian myths is since like most people i'm more familiar with the entering into it part with the whole anubis judging your soul part, so i guess that would be more of a fault of the movie not establishing this is an actual thing in myths, which is still a shame because they could've gone more into that

[@MetalSonicReject]

That actually sounds like a very down to Earth afterlife.

[@entity-36572-b]

@@MetalSonicReject Well that's only the part humans go to when they die. The others are a bit wilder, and feature copious snakes. If you're interested in a summary of those, I can recommend Overly Sarcastic Productions' video on the path of Amun Ra.

[@someguy4384]

"Why are you white?" All of the later Pharos were white. Specifically, Greek. Cleopatra, for example, was fairly fair skinned. Go back far enough, and sure. Less white and more Arab, though even then there's some debate on the actual physical appearance of ancient Egyptians. The general consensus is they weren't white or black, and were probably close to Arab..but there's some differences in how they're depicted in art compared to other middle eastern citizens at the time. It's messy. Basically any Pharo post-Alexander the Great was pale skinned. Most didn't even speak Egyptian (I believe Cleopatra was the first).

[@YourKingJDG]

They were not Arab, they were black

[@someguy4384]

@@YourKingJDG No they weren't. Lmao. Not only is that not historically accurate, it's an erasure of their culture. Egyptians were culturally, ethnically, and spiritually different from their African neighbours. I also didn't say they were black. Again, they were probably something else. A slightly darker in-between of Arab and Northern African, but ethnically different enough to not be classified as "black"

[@YourKingJDG]

@@someguy4384 Nope they were black and you’re trying to erase Black history and culture. Ik you like the culture but that’s no excuse to steal it.

[@someguy4384]

@@YourKingJDG Well I'm Jewish, so I have my own historically oppressed culture to deal with. Don't want to go adopting another one. That's just too much historical trauma for one body to bear. Again, look at Indians. They're culturally different than the Chinese, who they share a border with, and ethnically different as well. There's never been a point where they depicted themselves as the stereotypical Asian. Slanted eyes, shorter bodies, thin, rounder heads, yellow-tan skin. Nope. Always have and always will be Indian. Africa actually has a dozen super interesting ancient kingdoms and cultures that were all relevant even up until recently (relatively speaking). There was an entire Kingdom so rich with gold they literally wore it as clothing, for example What you're doing is black washing history. No different than the people who claim "X European historical figure was actually black!" Lmao. Show unbiased, accredited evidence to the contrary of historical consensus. Then I'll take your claims seriously. Until then, why not try celebrating the actual African kingdoms? The Ghana Empire, mentioned above, would be an amazing place to start.

[@marenrisu9711]

@JDG @Some Guy Well I guess you are both right. Stuart Tyson Smith writes in the 2001 Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt that "Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as 'black', while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans.” By the way JDG I don't think Some Guy wants to steal anything or erases Black history and culture. The world is more than black or white you know? Espacially in North Africa and the Mediterranean Sea

[@adrius103]

As a spanish dude, I can say that Tad the Lost Explorer (or as we say here Tadeo Jones) is one of the most popular spanish animation films; they made a series based on the first movie, several tv programs and contests, and even a summer camp (plus two more movies on the franchise)

[@adrius103]

@Evan Knight why?

[@ekapru]

Si, me acuerdo. Me encanta la primera parte, las dos últimas no las he visto. La serie si. Mola mucho.

[@solus8685]

​@@adrius103 because the movie is godawful

[@genialkirby]

I'm from Spain and I agree with It 🇪🇦🇪🇸

[@squirolz]

@@solus8685 Yeah, it's pretty awful by animated movies standards, but it's a "masterpiece" in terms of spanish animated movies. Yeah... we haver VERY low standards when it comes about making movies... that's why i don't watch spanish movies.

[@TheDahaka1]

I'm sorry, but the "you must use egyptian actors for egyptian characters" argument is so stupid to me. We're not talking about Hollywood, where apparently half the world is gathered, we're talking about Britain, where the people doing voice acting profesionally are way more limited, meaning that if you look exclusively for egyptian voice actors you'll probably tank the quality. I understand the argument of not avoiding, and even preferring correct nationality voice actors for characters, but actively searching for them even when they aren't there is just dumb. Also, you're basically saying that black voice actors should be segregated to black characters, and that's extremely backwards. You can't have anyone non-white voiced by their correct nationalities, and then have anyone do the white characters, that's still racist as f*ck. Voice is voice, the color of your skin shouldn't matter at all.

[@isidrotorrescamacho9113]

8:40 its not in Egypt, ITS IN PERU!

[@KesiIshtar]

I wish they went more bold with the idea. That their world IS an afterlife and they are sent here by the gods to fix the fading afterlife (removing bodies and taking items from the tomb would take those things away from them in the afterlife) Perhaps instead of the bad guys being OBVIOUSLY bad, make them well meaning and having to face a reality that in their rush to discover more about them, it was harming them. It would be a very interesting story

[@Inrezairo]

That sounds so much better than the story presented in the review and likely would have been far more respectful to all parties.

[@Game_Hero]

That's a better more convicing review on your part than this video.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I guess it goes to show that not every animated film needs an evil villain, unlike what some disgruntled Disney fans are spouting.

[@moodycowcrafts4862]

Yeah - really stick it to the 'we're preserving history' side of the 'the british shouldn't be held accountable for the thievery in its past' (and no you can't have the stuff we stole back) argument.

[@alexandraschroeder8377]

Sorry for the wall of test, but I actually love this idea. Especially since it can convey the idea of stripping cultures of their history unintentionally (sometimes even intentionally) in an effort to preserve it for future generations to understand and appreciate just how much humanity has changed; mainly through displaying them at museums. Sure, to an outsider of one culture, museums are doing the right thing, but to people that live in said culture, these outsiders are stealing bits of their history and their rightful heritage from them; if not also desecrating the dead in an effort to make a quick buck.

[@EthanKnight97]

Saberspark's knowledge of ancient Egypt is about on par with Netflix. He'll be denied entry to Egypt.

[@YourKingJDG]

Because it’s the truth, they are trying to change history

[@Talkshowhorse_Echna]

@@YourKingJDG Wich one is the truth? Cause I really don't know what you are talking about.

[@KashaLupul]

@@YourKingJDG black people are not egyptians.

[@twojac20]

First point, not all ancient Egyptians were darker like Cleopatra for instance she is Macedonian Greek. Second point, the movie is making so much money because of princess nephyr 😂 very nice character design

[@clarehidalgo]

That 2017 study of the DNA of 90 mummies found that "ancient Egyptians were genetically more closely related to people of the Near East - present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Palestine - than they were to contemporary Egyptians." The mummies had 0% Sub-Saharan DNA, while modern Egyptians average 20% sub-Saharan DNA

[@raymondthumper2267]

Oh no, Sabre discovers that not everything is made in the USA, and that said 'outsider' things can actually be successful. To say nothing of his sudden wokeness and complaining that the characters are white? Yeah, welcome to the rest of the world.

[@scoutart1508]

I think you really underestimated the elements that this movie has, because at the very least, despite not necessarily having that complex writing compared to the prince of egypt or something, at the very least it has an enjoyable and cute execution with some solid animation, characters that have charm with a female mummy that has potential to be an icon, fun world building, a good message of facing your past fears along the social commitment of trying to do what one really loves with passion, and really nice musical moments that stand out on their own, not to mention the likable relationship the the main characters go throgh romantically. so I am glad that this is mainly another achievement for spanish animation, even though it is hugely successful in the ranks of other hollywood mainstream and even not by the masterful CG works of Enrique Gato or Sergio Pablos Klaus, so we better support more the strong competition that Spain is getting at on par with Hollywood, makes sense?

[@Arcodus]

Why is it so important what skin colour a voice actor has? Seriously, why are people this shallow?? Kratos is voiced by Christoffer Judge, Greek character by black VA. Samurai Jack is voiced by Phil LaMarr, Japanese character by black VA. Darth Vader is mostly voiced by James Earl Jones, alien-that-looks-like-a-earopean-male character by black VA. Nobody batted an eye at that! Also, if you actually want authenticity, The Mummies/Egyptians should be talking ancient egyptic, or start out that way, as contemporary English was not a thing back then. If you TRULY wanted authenticity that is. Also having treasures and the bodies of ancient kings whisked off by the British ment that these couldn't be ruined by natural disasters or grave robbers intending to get a quick buck at the expence of preserving the artefacts/remains. Furthermore local goverments does not automaticly ensure conservation see the Afgani taliban and the priceless Buddha statues they destroyed. Not that any european explorer could fit those in their pocket!

[@YourKingJDG]

The point is they don’t even sound like they’re from the continent, their british accent took all possible immersion and plausibility out if it. It basically looks like British Egyptians fighting British people lmao

[@clarehidalgo]

@@YourKingJDG Meanwhile America "every foreigner gets a British accent regardless of if they are Danish, Greek, Swiss etc."

[@angela_merkeI]

​@@YourKingJDG An Arabic accent would be as nonsensical as an English one. To have a somewhat accurate accent they would have had to round up the like 5 people that still natively speak Coptic, ship them to Bri'ain/Spain and give them English and voice acting classes.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

When you use race as the largest advertising portion of your film, you put that issue on yourself

[@ratoh1710]

As for the skin color of the mummies that would depend on what era they are from, since the ruling class of Egypt has massively changed throughout the years. Pharaos from the dynasties of Egypt were native Egyptians to my knowledge but from the Ptolemaic period onwards the pharaos were macedonian after being conquered by Alexander the Decent. This lasted until the Roman Empire overthrew it and instated roman rulers. This was also the last period where mummification took place from what I could find from a quick google search since the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire ended it and the subsequent Muslim conquests of the area put a definitive end to the practice.

[@ratoh1710]

@PlessieNessie The Ptolemaic Pharaohs were all of Greek descent and as such white and the succeeding Roman Egypt recognized the Roman emperor as the pharaoh, though some of them were not fully white, such as the Severan dynasty emperors who were of partially Arab descent since the first emperor of the dynasty married a native Syrian. Several other emperors of Arab descent existed as well, such as Phillip the Arab, who was native Syrian.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

@PlessieNessie DUGHVERSITY!!!

[@Justin-pe9cl]

@PlessieNessie Diversity dur.

[@happymate8943]

​@@ratoh1710 So for the Arab part they are apart of subrace of semites. Hebrews/Jews, phoenicians/cannitinites, and arabs are semites. It's likely Egyptians were semites as well.

[@kiplingwasafurry1108]

Finally someone sensible on the Egyptians were white/black debate. It's not even in my specification of history but even I know that Egypt was and is a very diverse place spanning milennia.

[@Arkantos117]

The mummies didn't look white at all though? They look clearly north African/Middle Eastern. Also the criticisms of the British museum are nonsense.

[@1sdani]

Actually, those aren't slaves. While the Egyptians did practice slavery, the pyramids and other such megalithic structures were built by generally well paid farmers during the flooding season. It was an honour to build structures for the gods, and to let slaves assist in their creation would be seen as disrespectful to the gods and too respectful to the slaves.

[@clarehidalgo]

Yeah, slavery was a thing back then but mass slavery didn't become big in Egypt until ~700 years after the pyramids were built. I like that all the blocks on the pyramids had their work group's signature etched into them

[@Game_Hero]

Not your best review to be frank. Should have researched egyptian mythology a bit more to be able to convincingly show us how it could have been adapted better, make your points be something else than "it's boring" over and over. Also, are we there again with the arbitrary subjective "race" labelling of people based on skin tone? They look Egyptian enough to me, like the goddess Isis. And with other americansplaining of the sole dogmatic "right" way how representation is best shown, ask the Egyptians about what they think of that with your things like Netflix's Cleopatra. Many people including me are fine about any culture and especially physical appearance writting about and dubbing our cultures, so this should go the other way too.

[@sagarzazumikel]

Actually, "Tad the lost explorer" became a trilogy here in Spain (under the name "Tadeo Jones") and many of the voice actors in that movie actually ended up having roles in "Mummies", really. It was quite a flex for Spanish CGI animation, but the studio in this film was actually made from scratch by the former crew of the Tad series. I wasn't a big fan of the series, but boy, do voice acting schools love to use the Tad movies as practice. 😳

[@Scatscar1985]

Warner Bros was also high on "Quest for Camelot".....so....yeah....

[@Scatscar1985]

NICKELBACK?!?

[@gabyyyyyyyyy]

im no movie expert but tad is a great film in my opinion

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Wow, I watched the first Tad movie when I was in my youth.

[@bigseven8227]

I didn't know that, but it makes sense since Tad already has mummies in it. I've watched the first Tad movie as a kid. I thought it was mediocre but my siblings really hated it for some reason.

[@KeebeThePlush]

You aren’t wrong when you said definitely feels like a “the book of life” or “coco” with Egyptian themes and it’s interesting to see films that succeed in other countries

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@Z3N1TY0]

@@p-__⁠​⁠​⁠what?☠️

[@Kroraptor]

I dont get it how you get Egyptian voice actors, does the voice actor job is to make a voice for any character? Like their job is to change their voice to match the character. Like should I get a mexican drug cartel dude to voice a cartoon of a mexican drug cartel character? Just get good writers and good voice actors.

[@huntforbigfloptober1333]

Yeah I really felt Saber harped waaay too long about the race of the actors rather than talking about their luckluster performance. Like I get wanting to give everyone opportunities to shine, but I feel like skill matters more for both the actors and writers.

[@moon7shinev150]

Seriously like look at the Prince of Egypt. Ramses probably has some of the best voice acting I’ve ever heard

[@eyliena]

Your argument for why they shouldn't be called mummies doesn't make any sense. They should just call them Egyptians because they don't look dead? But they are dead. Egyptians are the alive people living in Egypt. Maybe if your point was they should be called like "undead" or something, sure. But they *were* mummified canonically, so why not mummy?

[@party4lifedude]

The character design for Princess Nefer is so captivating and nice. I wish she was written and animated into something more worthwhile.

[@jcf_plus]

Dude, that's my line!

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

You know, I kinda feel like this could be a fun movie. The animation's pretty decent, like around Arthur 3 (Luc Besson) decent, the concept of a mummy world is actually quite uncommon, at least in my opinion, and mummies exploring the modern world seems kinda fascinating.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@arachnerd4493]

it wasn't, i tried my best to find ways to be invested but you kind of already know how it's going to go from the beginning. the visuals were the main good part about it and Ed's voice acting in the english dub was authentic, but i don't know what else you could commend them on source: saw it

[@screameureka7029]

i havent seen it but the animation is pretty good. i like the details on the outfits and the 2d opening credits (?) that saber showed looked cool

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Whelp I think people were judging it on a curve the plots very uninteresting. But hey it’s still better than Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, the Grinch horror movie, and Arthur Malediction the horror movie spin off of the Arthur movies.

[@lewisgale62]

Trust me. You don’t want to see this film

[@Mate397]

Don't worry, as an european I never heard of it either. Also really Saber gonna pull a racist thing like that? Voice acting of all things can be done by any person that is fit for the job, skin color shouldn't matter when looking for a VOICE. (a great example, Samurai Jack was voiced by a black man. I didn't know that for a long while but did that change my view on the character? NO it didn't because the voice actor delivered talent. By your logic Jack should have been voice by only a japanese man, or Kratos once again voiced by a black man and he did a great job, do you think it would have been better if it was a greek?). And while yes I agree an egyptian shouldn't be pasty white, don't go to the other extreme of the afro-centrist stupidity of "ThEy WeRe AlL bLaCk".

[@YourKingJDG]

Ancient Egyptians were black, you really showing that white supremacist hood huh? And his criticism was that you could clearly hear the British in their voice meaning the voice actors did a horrible job. But not just them, the people that thought they were a good fit also f’d up. And no the “Ancient” Egyptians weren’t wHiTe

[@moon7shinev150]

Saber mentions the Prince of Egypt several times but like the characters weren’t voiced by Egyptians there either. Ramses probably had some of the voice acting I’ve ever heard

[@generaledelogu1892]

The "white" comment can be a bit misleading. The actor choice is a fine point to debate, but assuming all Egyptians should be more "tan" is a bit incorrect. Skin tone around the Mediterranean especially can be around this olive/tan coloring (looking at some Italians or Spaniards you may assume they are not white because of their darker complexion). Certainly skin tone can be darker or lighter than the average (separate ethnic backgrounds like Turkic heritage for one is a big difference in Anatolia), but criticizing the lighter-than-expected skin tone of the characters seems a bit out of place

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@TheVillainousSoul]

In my opinion it should have more variety. Like Thut (being outdoors more) could have had more of a tan for example. It looked like mostly the bg characters had tans but there could have been more of a difference in the main cast for example. Since I'm pretty sure Egypt is very diverse from what I saw people say.

[@veggsbacon1891]

I agree. Who gives a damn about a voice actor's skin? Kratos is voiced by a black man, but honestly, that doesn't matter. It's his performance and style that really matters.

[@jackfraust1002]

It's just another form of racism

[@YourKingJDG]

Egyptians were black Africans, atleast in this time.

[@samfucyu6196]

Also interesting to note - coming from someone studying Egyptology, that the name of the female protagonist (Nefer), is a very common hieroglyph found in plenty of holy spaces meaning "Perfect". It represents a spine with a ribcage and the trachea continuing which makes it look kind of like an ancient version of a guitar.

[@khodexus4963]

You complain alot about them being voiced by white actors and looking white, when an entire dynasty of Pharaohs from Ptolemy to Cleopatra VII were Macedonian Greeks with fair skin and in the case of Cleopatra, red hair under the royal wig. Ramses was alot earlier, and thus it is fitting that he was depicted with a few shades darker skin, though you don't seem to have any issue with him being voiced by the very British Ralph Fiennes.

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

Just for the record, I think the character design is quite well done. I was engaged to a girl for a while and was with her for 3 years total that looked almost identical to the female lead in this movie; eerily similar actually. My ex was lebanese and I'd say the characters do very well in terms of implying ethnicity by facial construction. Yeah Lebanon isn't Egypt but at least geographically it is in a similar area and an effort was made.

[@clarehidalgo]

Based on an article "ancient Egyptians were genetically more closely related to people of the Near East - present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Palestine - than they were to contemporary Egyptians." so it really does makes sense

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

@@clarehidalgo Lotus Eaters Podcast just did a segment about how Cleopatra wasn’t actually Egyptian with is what even made me think about this.

[@kiplingwasafurry1108]

I used to work with this guy who looked very white but I later found out he was Egyptian and it surprised me. I've also interracted with other Egyptians and seen photos of famous ones and to me these characters could certainly pass as Egyptian.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

@@kiplingwasafurry1108 Knew a kid growing up, thought he was just generic white guy - Nope, Palestinian. Never would've known had someone not told me

[@DaWoWzer]

I think americans are the only ones who care about the skin color of voice actors, i've never seen anyone else care.

[@roxassora2706]

It's a mostly mixed opinion

[@ansel569]

I think saber's point was moreso that the "british colonialism is bad" theme is sort of undermined by casting white british people as egyptians. It's not like a sin or anything, but perhaps makes the message shallow.

[@patorjk]

If you google “egyptian people” you get a pretty wide variety of people. I don’t think either cartoon you showed really captures them.

[@YourKingJDG]

I can’t speak for the time of cleopatra, at that point there was far too much traffic to know. But before it was just Black Africans.

[@Dots321]

@@YourKingJDGthe Ancient Egyptians people usually think of weren’t black they were middle eastern. The black “Egyptians”(Cause they weren’t in Egypt proper but were Influenced by Egypt)were the Nubians who were just south of Egypt. There was the 25th dynasty of Egypt which was ruled by Nubians. Also cleopatra was Greek she was a descendant of Ptolemy a general of Alexander the Great.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

You're correcting a guy who doesn't know people still live in Egypt (as seen in his dumb comment "we get egyptians in the modern world", like they were some kind of extinct people). Also, people from the USA are obsessed with seeing other countries depicted in film as only one race, and get offended when non-anglo-saxons are depicted as white.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@Dots321 No, that’s false information, and the people you’re referring to are the sudanese people. Just like Sudan, Egypt got taken over by Arabs. But don’t act like Arabs were native to Egypt because they were not. The Black natives and Pharaohs originally there were pushed out. That’s like saying in 300 years that white people in Australia and North America are the native people and the native Americans and aboriginals never existed. Very disrespectful.

[@JargonMadjin]

There was a lot of inbreeding in ancient Egypt, but people are focused on skin tone and not the deformities that they would have ended up with, if you're going to focus on the lesser of two evils for a cartoon, best to choose the one that won't scar people for life. Even so many people have already stated that Egypt was cosmopolitan and still is, like Dots said in the thread here, they had Cleo moving in from Greece for example

[@unticinesetrans]

As a European I was *bombarded* by ads for this movie, I'm so glad to see Saber talk about this

[@Bufekana]

Cuz its called voice ACTING🙄

[@RazorRex]

I liked this as a guilty pleasure- Nefer is definitely waifu material. But it was annoying that they used The Bangles Walk Like An Egyptian. I don’t hate the song, but it’s already been played countless times with other Egyptian-themed media and it’s just tiring at this point. That, and I’m pretty sure actual Egyptians are sick of that song too!

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@PikaLink91]

Defiantly? You mean definitely? Because those are two very different terms.

[@RazorRex]

@@PikaLink91 Typo on my part fixed it.

[@RazorRex]

@@PikaLink91 Also your the 2nd person to correct me on that.

[@androidinblack5291]

Actual Egyptian here: Yes.

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

"Why are they white?" Because genetically, Egyptians are close to Greeks and Italians. I mean go figure, people near the Mediterranean all kinda look the same, who'd have thought? It's tiresome how many people assume that because Egypt is in Africa, that Egyptians are as black as sub-Saharans. Look at modern Egyptians, they look about the same color as these characters.

[@YourKingJDG]

You what’s also tiring? Assuming all black people or “sub saharans” are dark skinned. Black people come in all shades so stop it with that nonsense.

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

​@@YourKingJDG OK. Africa is a big continent, no shit. Doesn't change the fact that Egyptians are not, and never were black.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@AkuTenshiiZero Egyptians always were black, COPE HARDER..

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

​@@YourKingJDG Ah, you must be an American black. Stealing history from other cultures does seem to be the trendy thing for your kind these days.

[@MalekitGJ]

Saber.... ya know that Egyptians were mostly Mediterranean.... Right?

[@ironnordegraf]

The skin color isn't that surprising, a lot of Egyptians have very light complexions ("white" to uninformed Americans), they are more a Mediterranean people than outright African, but they do range from light to very dark skinned. They could have offered more variations in tone, it would have been better. I suspect they wanted them to resemble Spaniards more and Spanish standards of beauty.

[@mesousagaby740]

This actually got a pretty wide release in Puerto Rico, mostly because our theatre chain's logic is that, even if it's a very mediocre-looking animated film, it needs to be in every theatre so they can get a family movie around here. If you're an artsier-looking animated movie, however, you only get a few cities, which is...honestly kinda strange. It is kinda changing, though, as Suzune also got a big wide release here.

[@ddd7291]

Omg yes I remember seeing the trailer en el cine and i questioned its relevance like i never really saw its marketing online

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

Egypt was a very cosmopolitan place with a wide variety of skin tones present at least somewhere in the population. The most numerous group should have about the same range as what you would see if you google “Egyptians” and see contemporary Egyptians though. Could also google “Faiyyum death mask” to see more realistic ancient depictions of Egyptians.

[@YourKingJDG]

The original Egyptians were not White or Arab. They were Black Africans, the Arabs and Persians invaded later. This is a romanticization of African culture.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@YourKingJDG Yeah yeah that’s great and all, but that is total gibberish that only works on people who don’t know how invasions affect local populations on average. Typically, the invader does leave a mark on the genetics of the local population; but they remain a minor part of the larger whole. Egypt is a very fertile region with a massive population compared to most other regions on earth in the ancient past. The idea that could be completely supplanted by a much smaller outside group is just completely ridiculous. Total extermination and replacement is rare and should not be assumed to be the norm just because it happened in the US. Persians invaded Egypt, but did not settle the region in any significant numbers, so the point there is moot. Arabs are literally from the same linguistic and genetic stock as Egyptians and a fair amount of black African people groups though. Could it be that you just don’t understand skin tone isn’t the most significant part of genetic heritage above all else? All people groups were originally black Africans. Clearly an outside invader is not necessary to change that.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Australian aboriginals got took of the map, Millions of South Americans fell to only a few thousand conquistadors, native Americans of course got wiped out, etc. This wasn’t a government wipe, they wanted to take over the entire area. Which they ended up doing. Exactly why Sudan had to split in two after the abuse from the Arabs, same thing happened to Egypt. And it wasn’t total extermination either, the Egyptians or should I say Kemetians just ended up moving out of the area.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@YourKingJDG For the aboriginal Australians: Their population across the entire continent was not significantly large in the first place, they were subject to disease, and the British Empire was uniquely predisposed to murder/intentionally destroy the native population of an area they were settling. Essentially Australia's story is very similar to the United States, which is the country that fits what you're imagining the best. As for the Inca: you're literally buying into a racist myth that the conquistadors single-handedly annihilated the Inca Empire. They fought protracted wars that involved native allies and fought against frequent rebellion. And that's not to forget _millions upon millions of indigenous people still live across South America_ , and these countries are on average much more mixed than the US. I strongly get the impression you don't have the concept in your brain that people don't have to have the same culture as their ancestors, and that a change doesn't mean that they aren't ultimately still related to their ancestors. Culture is not genetic. You know what decided who was a "Greek" or a "Turk" when population exchanges were occurring between Greece and Turkey? Whether the person in question was christian or muslim. And again: Arabs are literally ultimately from the same genetic and linguistic stock as Egyptians and numerous other groups in north and east Africa. They didn't appear out of nowhere from space. They shared ancestors with the Egyptians and had already been living in parts of modern Egypt like Sinai for thousands of years.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Who said they appeared out of nowhere? I already told you they invaded egypt and became the new “Egyptians” As for South America, I know the conquistadors didn’t directly kill millions. But they were able to wipe out many with disease then take over areas without getting swarmed because the inhabitants treated them like gods. Spain then subjugated south america. This mixed with rampant mixing and rape caused a birth of a new people, latinos. As for Egypt, that was never their culture to begin with, they’ve only started trying to claim it within the last 200 years when white peoples raided Africa and began to travel within it. White people then romanticized it and drew artwork of themselves as the pharaohs. Arabs saw this and began to envision themselves as them too. Since they were born in Egypt they think they must come from there and instead of accepting their Arab heritage they instead clamor for something they see as exotic, something cool.

[@spooddabreadloaf]

Didn’t you say in the Velma video that changing fictional characters races isn’t a bad thing 🤨

[@KaiserMazoku]

what does that have to do with anything here

[@spooddabreadloaf]

@@KaiserMazoku i was at the part of him complaining that they were British or smthn

[@Game_Hero]

@@KaiserMazoku criticizing the skin tones of the movie for the egyptian characters as a bad thing? Double-standard?

[@KaiserMazoku]

@@spooddabreadloaf The voice actors are British, the characters are Egyptian

[@spooddabreadloaf]

@@KaiserMazoku he complained about the characters looking white specifically 💀

[@Ultrox007]

"But they're white..." Oh does he not know? Saber, Egyptians are historically closest related to modern Europeans and Middle-Easterners. Cleopatra is currently deduced to be a ginger.

[@kreolado5880]

But Cleopatra wasn't even egyptian. She came from a greek dynasty. Most of her family members didn't even bother learning the ancient egyptian language or the egyptian tradition. Her ethnic background says nothing about the skin colour of actuall native amcient egyptians.

[@DuckStrider]

16:56 The men that built the pyramids were not slaves. Just workers.

[@zarvidnoom1547]

....egyptians.... are... white...? i mean like my friend is full egyptian, hes pastey as fuck, no like egyptians are very mixed, some are darker skinned alot are white.

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

Rami Malek is 100% Egyptian and he gets crapped on for being "too white": en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Malek

[@shortpettite]

Actually (and can't believe I'm writing an actually) the Egyptians believe that the afterlife was the same as the living life hence why they were buried with all their belongings and things they would need including some of their favorite foods. So the fact that the afterlife shown is no different from living life is accurate to the beliefs. EDIT: Though if you wanna be technical I suppose if it's their spirits in the afterlife then they shouldn't have looked like mummies. However, because they are mummies and thought they were being preserved then it would make sense they would think they kept their looks i.e. not horrifying looking. I think a fun concept would be to show them regular afterlife looking normal but then the soul gets pulled back to their bodies. Then kinda like the movie the mummy slowly regen and the whole they can't return blah blah. The British museum could come in because their bodies were there. Concept is kinda The Mummy from mummy perspective.

[@DeadBaron]

3:50 because Ancient Egyptians were Mediterranean and pale. Just because they live on the same continent as Africans doesn't mean they have to be dark skinned. This is like saying if you live in Asia, you have to look Chinese and not Indian or Russian.

[@mariscostumes3815]

You have clearly not seen an Egyptian person or seen ANY Egyptian hieroglyphs

[@DeadBaron]

@@mariscostumes3815 I've seen plenty of paintings. Hyroglyphs are just shapes and symbols like kanji. We even have Greek paintings and mosaics that prove what they looked like. As for "you haven't seen an Egyptian", this is laughable, as neither have you. The people that live in the region called Egypt today have very, very little to do with the Egyptians that built the tombs and pyramids.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@DeadBaronEgyptian paintings clearly show them as being dark and light skinned Africans. Why would I look upon another white society to correctly show Egypt?

[@dolanvskaney]

I can't wait till I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff.

[@DeadBaron]

@@YourKingJDG You think Greeks were white, ignorance revealed, opinion invalidated

[@Galaxia53]

As long as the voice actors do a good job it doesn't matter who they are. Why care about where they're from

[@KashaLupul]

He cares cause saber is a fat white[possibly jewish] man from the west.

[@62nayra]

Spanish here (sorry for my english) actually all cgi animation movies get so much media recognition in here, despite not being good movies at all. But the history of animation in Spain is so poor that cause media get really HYPED like "WOW TRUE SPANISH ANIMATION". Also, I suppose Mommies get this good rates because actually is a very european production, Spain, England, France, plus it's an easy and basic kids movie so I can say they all collaborated to make high numbers with this film (kinda sad because some parts of the movie are kinda funny but at the end it's just a really forgettable)

[@emcat52]

I feel the stakes would be higher if any injuries they sustained were permanent since they were dead and therefore unable to heal. They could still be "immortal" but they would life with the pain of those injuries for eternity. The light could also cause them to start decomposing which could have been their reason to avoid it. If those were the stakes the horror movie claim may have had some weight to it.

[@moodycowcrafts4862]

I also wonder if there was a situation that if you did end up doing something 'bad' in the afterlife it would be tallied on your scale from being measured for good deeds in life and Ammit could just break through and come after them Don't know how that would line up with the whole 'only the good can enter the afterlife' alongside the lack of food strife etc that comes with the afterlife but I'd be fascinated to know if there was a way for the afterlife to be 'revoked' by the gods

[@breadpilled2587]

the debunking of Egyptians being all dark skinned black people seemingly made some people think that a) they were white and b) they were ALL WHITE. Egyptians were incredibly diverse, especially considering how long their civilization existed. There were white-skinned Egyptians, brown-skinned Egyptians, dark-skinned Egyptians... The concept of race didn't even exist as we know it. When it comes to skin color, it was anything you can imagine. Different time periods had different levels of diversity. Different rulers had different skin tones. They were not what we think of as "white". They were not what we think of as "black". They were not modern people with modern races.

[@clarehidalgo]

Their skin color range was similar to that of the Middle east, I mean the closest genetically to Ancient Egyptians they found in the 2017 study of 90 mummies are modern Farmers in Jordan than to modern Egyptians

[@hokton8555]

i think a major problem is that not every "white" person has actually light-skin

[@joelwarren6005]

I'm probably a little late here in suggesting this, but I'm pretty sure that the main villain's design (the British Egyptologist) was durectly modeled after Howard Carter, the infamous Egyptologist who discovered King Tutahnkamun's tomb in the Valley of the Kings, back in 1922. He probably serves to give a "face" to the British museum and Antiquties industry in whole, as those who are considered responsible for the "discovery" and "preservation" of many Egyptian treasures and antiquities of the 19th and 20th centuries.

[@DapaChrons]

Or could be Lord Carnarvon

[@robertwatt5382]

Why are they white? Why is the Little Mermaid black now?

[@jordanWAH]

"I wish the egyption gods were more a part of the story...who's King Thut?" Did you really just say that? LOL

[@jcf_plus]

😂😂😂

[@MausBastion]

This movie started being as a Tad Lost Explorer spin-off, in which one of the side characters is a mummy. The idea was to explore their afterlife but they quickly dropped off the idea, for the best imo

[@ogusaiyan8172]

yeah especially because that character fucking sucks

[@bluelfsuma]

People not knowing about this film because it isn't American reminds me of when I figured out Nintendo was in Japan. (It was less "other countries can make stuff?" and more "I can get stuff from other countries?!" as a wee widdle goblin.)

[@IcefisherTenacity]

Saberspark when it comes to voice actors it’s a real conundrum because prince of Egypt also had white, British VAs for Egyptians, but I never had a problem with it. It would be hypocritical to treat Mummies doing the same thing as a problem… right? What’s the right way? VA’s have to match their character or no restrictions.

[@ansel569]

I felt his point was moreso how they wanted to play the "british colonialism is evil" plotline but then had white british VAs voice egyptian people. It just makes the message feel shallow.

[@powersthetiddygoblin]

I'm not sure either of these comments really portray what he was going for. The whole "get Egyptian actors" was definitely a bad phrasing, though. He made a point to mention that Robin Williams played a genie in an Arabian setting, but he was amazing with the acting. And brought up that good ol' Mr. Bean didn't do his mummy role justice and was probably only hired for his notoriety rather than his voice acting. With that commentary in mind, and him calling the dialogue and such bland, I think he was more leaning towards "Don't hire big names just to read normally and attract viewers when there are other people who can do the role better justice through emotive performance", which is an easier and more valid idea to get behind.

[@Stichting_NoFa-p]

You say they should hire actual Egyptians to do the voice acting to make them sound like ancient Egyptians? Don't you realize that they speak Arabic in Egypt nowadays and don't sound the same?

[@SiverFangBlackWing]

It seems like you’re just mad it doesn’t fit what you think mummies and the Egyptian underworld should be. Unfortunately for you this is more accurate to the myth then your version.

[@gabyyyyyyyyy]

as a spanish person i can assure you tad the lost explorer is really great and peak spanish media in my opinion. also its really known here

[@robertharris6092]

Does saber not know who fucking tutankhaman is???

[@fellowsinner9683]

With the characters that are named, nefer was a pharaoh with a short lived rule in the old kingdom. But nefer is likely a reference to Nefertiti, who was a middle kingdom queen. Thut, could be referencing thutmose, which there were several of, all middle kingdom. It could also be tutankhamun, who was a new kingdom ruler. Sekhem was a symbol of power, a staff.

[@foxkenji]

One thing we can all note in this animation is that all of the Egyptian characters are correctly and accurately depicted to look like, you know, actual Egyptians and NOT how that Netflix Cleopatra fake documentary falsely depicts them.

[@TonyPratt-pw3yt]

No it’s not accurate because the Egyptians in that movie are supposed to be Ancient Egyptians and ancient Egyptians aren’t white they were dark skinned and the Egyptians your talking about look the way they look because there mixed with Arabians.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Sean Bean broke his own record with this film. This time his character died EVEN BEFORE the events of the movie 😂

[@danielsvetlichny5721]

I have just seen the film and I already am beginning to feel some frustrations. These are... - Nefer following Thut and Sekhem, making me wonder how on Earth did she get on to the lorry and boat (though apparently it was her seeing them through her telescope in the palace, but it doesn't explain much.) - A contrived "stage being interrupted" sequence - When the titular mummies were shown in certain light, we were supposed to see their skeletons, but clearly it was only MAKE-UP. -Thut going through the glass in which it contained Nefer in The British Museum, apparently there is a door to the glass but it didn't showed us that door (I know it is called The Carnaby Museum in the film but it is CLEARLY The British Museum.) - Probably the biggest frustration of them all. All the people of London, including Ed, not even asking who Thut, Sekhem, Nefer and Sekhem's little pet crocodile they are and why they were here in the first place. This paints all the humans as, apologies if I use the term, blind and even unsympathetic caricatures, as everyone knows that asking and questioning is what makes us human. (Though frankly, it could be that the executives must have tampered with the script or something or other, I don't know.) Even Ed calls that little crocodile a "dog" which is CLEARLY NOT a dog. However, it is not bad nor it is great. It is only fine. I will say that I do like the characters and their dynamics with each other but I do not know if I ever am going to remember them, the voice acting is good effort (Hugh Bonneville, I know him as Mr. Brown from the Paddington films, and Sean Bean, I know him as Bill Goodfellowe from Wolfwalkers, are the actors that I intrigued by), humour that did gave me a few chuckles and the animation, although generic and a bit dull, is decent effort.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

[@danielsvetlichny5721]

@@p-__ What's that supposed to mean?

[@marionetteproject508]

@@danielsvetlichny5721 he's spamming it everywhere

[@danielsvetlichny5721]

@@marionetteproject508 I see.

[@JargonMadjin]

The skeleton make up thing was either a lack of research or they were just copying Coco, either way, it's not a good look. Mummies aren't supposed to look like skeletons, the whole point of mummification was to preserve the body

[@Alejandroigarabide]

So, if a movie is set on a faraway country you need the voice actors to be from that country as well? Why? It was originally made in Spain, not Egypt for crying out loud! And ethnicity is irrelevant in voice acting. Also "Egyptians in the modern world"... You do know Egypt is a country that still exists, right? So, there are egyptians in the modern world in real life.

[@AkioSonada]

Did Saber really suggest Voice actors can only voice characters that look like them? Wow what a bad take.

[@theluiginoidperson1097]

My take on it is, Good luck not only finding multiple foreign voice actors to fill multiple roles in the movie, and who actually want to participate or commit to the role, but also covering the budget and costs needed to actually maintain their casting throughout the movie's production. If the movie isn't produced in a super diverse country like the US, then _good luck._

[@opalheart13stancil30]

Not really. Having Egyptian actors in a movie like this would make the tone much more effective. Having white British actors play as a minority group going through the struggles of having their culture taken away by the notorious British museum is offensive. Especially since to this day Egyptians fight for their sacred artifacts back.

[@tonypringles2285]

@@opalheart13stancil30 lol they aren't sacred anymore. most Egyptians do not follow their wack ass religion anymore. they lost so we get their stuff.

[@brokefangmagepunk3685]

​@@opalheart13stancil30 what a joke. That's offensive to you? What a nice sheltered life you must live to be offended by white people voicing made up characters. Grow up bud

[@giulf3der957]

​@@opalheart13stancil30 The thing he missed tho is that, probably, the original voices of the movie are spanish people, so they don't have english accent🤔 Maybe in the spanish version the archaeologyst is either an english actor speaking spanish or a spanish man talking with an english accent, while the Egyptians are talking normal-accent spanish.. i think this happens in a lot of movies, or maybe it's because all the movies I watch are dubbed in my language because I'm not english. Speaking of dubs, the version of the movie Saber watched is the dubbed version of the spanish movie, so choosing the voice actors to read the translated version isn't seen as more important than choosing the actors for the og script? I don't know much about how companies choose who dubs characters of foreigner movies to bring in other countries, so I might have said some dumb stuff, sorry😅

[@Prince_Smugarina]

Egyptians actually did have lighter skin at times. Due mostly in part to their ancient neighbors and such taking over the place. The dark skin is usually due to being deeply tanned. Its a tricky thing, but Cleopatra for example was Macedonian decent, and thus was lighter-skinned than you'd think.

[@Val17282]

I read Ancient Egypt's diverse skin tones was also caused by the absorption of some african populations from nearby civilizations like Nubia

[@clarehidalgo]

@@Val17282 I looked at studies and they said that only really happened in the last 1500 years which is long after those guys became mummies

[@KashaLupul]

@clarehidalgo once they started mixing south Egypt was doomed lol

[@big_oo]

great video. Only gripe is the complaint about the whiteness of the egyptians, for the most part the mummies aren't particularly white (closer to olive or brown skin) which is neither accurate nor innacurate since modern scholars mostly agree that ancient egypt is very similar to modern egypt in the sense that there's a vast diversity of skin colour of the people. The fact you brought up the prince of egypt as a counterexample kind of shows your "north american education" since in modern times it's thought that this is problematic in itself since an american film portraying all ancient egyptians as heavily black is somewhat racist as it's essentially saying "all africans are black" which in the case of egypt isn't true

[@YourKingJDG]

Another one of yall complaining. All Africans were Black, Arabs and Persians came in later, are we gunna sit here and say white people have been in South Africa forever too? It’s not racist at all, the assertion that they were not Black however is. And Black people come in all colors, you have light ones, dark ones and borderline white skinned ones. Stop acting like all black people are dark skinned

[@clarehidalgo]

"ancient Egyptians were genetically more closely related to people of the Near East - present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Palestine - than they were to contemporary Egyptians."

[@brunoyudi9555]

the british museum being the villain was genius lol

[@dogwithgun6724]

This movie for some reason gives me the same vibes as Monster in Paris. I haven’t seen this movie but the animation, the character. design, and the relatively “on the down low” release just feel very similar. Plus Thut or whatever and Raoul look VERY similar

[@PikaLink91]

Thanks for reminding me of that movie. I promised myself for years to see it.

[@Game_Hero]

can you blame them for not having the billions of dollars of american production studios?

[@dogwithgun6724]

@@Game_Hero I wasn’t trying to insult either movie at all just to be clear. Monster in Paris is actually one of my favorite movies

[@Game_Hero]

@@dogwithgun6724 I wasn't saying you where.

[@whatever9097]

I think the thing I’m most confused by is why they turn into skeletons. Like do they know what mummification is? They could’ve kept the point about the light but why not just change it to their face and wraps turn gray and rotten.

[@icanbreathfireyo446]

The reason why the scales were so important is because you would go through this ceremony that judged you and all you had done. If you were a good then congrats you get to go to the field of reeds. If not a crocodile ate your heart, and depending on your worst offense you would go down to a certain area of the underworld. Based on what I was told and have seen at least. Ra's boat "sails" through the various areas of the underworld, and some parts are explicitly described as where bad people go, like the part full of pits of fire and titans who can spew out flames.

[@thebigw1231]

At least this movie has a better representation of Cleopatra then Netflix

[@YourKingJDG]

The original Egyptians were black, keep coping.

[@ogusaiyan8172]

@@YourKingJDG yeah keep teling yourself that, only in your mind is true.

[@YourKingJDG]

@@ogusaiyan8172 It’s Africa Buddy if you don’t know about the arab conquests do you even know history?

[@angela_merkeI]

​@@YourKingJDG A yes, there is one race per continent and evolution doesn't exist, right?

[@wakeangel2001]

I kind of feel like I'm getting some "Mummies Alive" energy from this. If you wanna fall down that rabbit hole it was an action cartoon made by DiC pretty much right after Gargoyles ended (trying to cash in on the supernatural entity superhero team void it left behind.) I don't think ANYONE references it these days, the only time I ever remember anyone mentioning it was the robot chicken sketch "Golf Jam" where Tiger Woods had to save the DiC cartoons by playing a golf game and he had sex with the mummy girl in one of the sand traps.

[@azusitajr5501]

Man Mummies Alive! was my shit I'm glad someone else remembers it

[@Burentsu]

This movie bypassed me so hard I didn't realize it was in theaters until after it finished it's run and I was like, "There was an animated movie called Mummies in theaters?"

[@dmr2044]

Civilisations from the past interacting with modern society is always going to be an extremely compelling premise to me, especially if any kind of mythology is incorporated. It would unfortunately seem that all too often it's only used for cheap humor such as "ooh wow a cellphone", just a blank plot point made for marketing, or it's just not used well at all :(

[@Cutiepie-cy8td]

I just did some research on the Egyptian afterlife and I can clear you up on a few things: -The afterworld is supposed to be identical to the world of the living. Here the mummies have the ability to do the same things that they also did in their living days. One of the differences is, that the mummies live among the gods in this world and also get to eat the same food as the gods do. -Pregnancy may not work with these mummies but that doesn’t mean that Nefer and Thut having a child is entirely impossible. Since in the afterworld the mummies are capable of having whatever they want I’m pretty sure the gods would also be able to grant couples the wish of having a child of their own blood. -It’s actually mythologically accurate to access the world of the living dead through a secret doorway in the tomb of a deceased. -Same goes for dying in the afterlife, because it’s one of the things mentioned in “the book of death” that a deceased has to keep from happening. And about their skin color: the common folk are mostly the ones with dark skin since they always work outside in the sun. People who are light-skinned however are priests, officials and of course royals since they mostly stay indoors. Causing their skin to remain white. These groups of people are also the only ones who could afford a proper mummification.

[@HydraSpectre1138]

I know Spain has a booming animation industry for films. And many of their films are getting dubbed to English. And Warner Bros. also released the Makoto Shinkai anime Suzume in the Philippines, Thailand, and Chinese speaking countries. Unlike Mummies which was originally Spanish and then dubbed to English, Suzume was presented in Japanese with English subtitles. Suzume is also doing really well in Asian countries. Especially Japan (where it was made) and China. Suzume also beat the Mario movie at the Chinese box office. Suzume is now the fourth anime film to make over $300 million, the previous ones being Spirited Away, Your Name., and Demon Slayer: Mugen Train.

[@ludenunes6606]

Not a scholar or anything, but I read a while ago (on a National Geographic special issue about Egypt, if I remember correctly) that the Egyptian afterlife actually was more like a perfected version of this world, where work, family and so on were still part of life. If that source is correct, this movie's afterlife is somewhat legit. The movie still seems kinda basic, but this particular aspect doesn't seem all that off...