What Makes Wish's Music So Bad?

[@brainless_mastermind]

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[@wooperfan584]

Omg mastermind! Didn't expect you to be here lol

[@jonniepalma3460]

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[@God_is_my_Oath-wwjd]

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[@NN1IKTO]

absolutely NOT with that homophobia and transphobia? lol 17:39

[@wooperfan584]

​@@NN1IKTO How was that homophobic and transphobic? I don't understand 😅

[@kingagrabowska9366]

In the book version of the movie, there's a powerful line from Magnifico. It's when he captures Star and asks something along the lines of ''Where were you when I needed you? What makes the girl so special?''

[@abc.6223]

Oh woah really? That's actually really heartbreaking for him...

[@thoughtsofaleo2916]

What book are you talking about? I thought that was just a rumor floating around, not an original concept from the film?

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@thoughtsofaleo2916 Disney Wish: The Graphic Novel.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@thoughtsofaleo2916 Or Disney Wish: A Recipe for Adventure.

[@ZidaneKiano]

​@@thoughtsofaleo2916Probably the book of Wish concept art

[@noahfalk6100]

"The Madrigal Family" song is so good because Mirabel is keeping her identity a mystery while sharing her family's powers with the kids for a reason. Unlike "Welcome to Rosas", where we don't know anything about Asha, this song reveals A LOT about Mirabel. At first, she sees the kids as an opportunity to feel included and belong with her family.... but things get messy when the kids ask about her own magical gift, leading to Dolores exposing the truth that she doesn't have one. This revelation shows that Mirabel has been putting up walls to protect herself, as she's deeply affected by being seen as a burden due to her lack of magical gift. If the kids hadn't shown up, Mirabel wouldn't have had a reason to sing about her family in the first place. There's a story reason behind it, which makes it an important part of the movie.

[@colorfulmarbles156]

Agree

[@Minitaro14]

And in encanto I like the way she doesn’t get a power but she is still special in the end.

[@noahfalk6100]

@Minitaro14 Yeah, giving her a power would take away from all the amazing things she does in the movie. It's her determination and kindness that make her truly special.

[@YoLoVeoTodo122]

Im the 1000th like, yay! :D But yeah you're absolutely true lol, at least Encanto's songs had substance, I still remember when WDTAB blew up and it was literally everywhere for a few months, meanwhile not a single song of Wish has been that relevant

[@WolfTrot]

If i were the king, i would just keep doing what im doing. I don't need a teenager telling me im doing something wrong.

[@BP-dn9nv]

I mean, everything seems fine and the rules for getting your wish granted are pretty well communicated.

[@GalaxySharyahFilms]

Exactly Like Asha had no idea what she was talking about

[@socketyellow3]

The problem was when she summoned Star the dangerous wishes were starting to be triggered. Well that and she wanted to free them all and grant her family’s

[@FlipGhost]

Preech

[@qman28000]

"Watch out world, here I are!" should be considered a war crime and against the Geneva convention. Edit: Thank yall for 1000 likes

[@Daryl-2009]

I feel like one of the composers put "here I ara ara" as a joke but then the execs kinda liked the "ar" sound

[@bringbackpbskidsgo4562]

It should be "Watch out world, here I come!".

[@michaelawalton6579]

@@bringbackpbskidsgo4562 how about "Watch out world, here we are"?

[@bringbackpbskidsgo4562]

@@michaelawalton6579 ok...

[@AlIRounder]

I second this decision

[@lasercraft32]

As most people know by now, the Queen was ALSO supposed to be a villain... Imagine how could it would have been if she _betrayed_ Magnifico, tricking everyone into thinking she was the manipulated, when really she was the mastermind the whole time, setting it up for a sequel... (But of course, what we got wasn't at all good enough for a sequel).

[@voidsthread]

right!!! they were supposed to be the first villain couple (they were also supposed to have an evil cat, which would’ve been a nice nod to Lucifer from Cinderella,) and don’t even get me started on the fact that Star was supposed to be Starboy. now i’m one of those weird ppl who actually likes Wish, but i’d like it even more had the executives not rushed the story and pushed aside the amazing concepts they already had! imagining Asha in that orange color palette and beautiful natural hair she had in one of her original designs would’ve been *very* refreshing, because i don’t think there’s any Disney Princess who wears orange!

[@themeraldsword1630]

I think an evil couple would've been cool regardless.

[@lasercraft32]

@@themeraldsword1630 True

[@socketyellow3]

@@themeraldsword1630hate how they essentially sentenced him to eons in imprisonment in a mirror because she didn’t get what wanted

[@Huckmon365]

It would’ve been better if she pretended to be good only to betray asha and steal star

[@FEKana]

Ngl, the "I'm a star" analysis was such a jump that i smashed my skull into a wall. I believe the whole point of the song was to be "we're all cabale of making our wishes come true because we're all special." So I'm actually baffled how you made the jump to Nihilism.

[@kingcamelot1395]

A good message. Very very poor execution of message.

[@MistyLunaLotus]

If everyone is super, no one will be. THAT'S the point. If we're all the same, then it's true that nothing we do matters. It's all the same, I'm you, you're me, we're all just stardust

[@apersonontheinternet9085]

I’m 80% sure that I’m a Star is about the concept of “we’re all made of stars”, where in the actual world, stars come into existence and make chemicals, die and make more chemicals, and those chemicals (like carbon) are part of everything, so we’re all “made of stars” and therefore we’re all the same. Not that we’re special or that nothing matters, but that all people are the same, and therefore division bad unity good, be nice and don’t do racism and stuff. It’s also literally the WORST way to communicate that concept. There’s a song “we’re all made of stars” from a real musical (finding neverland) and it communicates this message competently. How do you mess up this badly. Also, Christian here! I actually don’t mind some nihilistic messaging! The message “if there’s no meaning in life, then we make our own meaning, and we should choose to just try to be better today than we were yesterday and generally not be a dick” is good! “Love thy neighbor” is one of the core messages in the Bible, and no matter how someone gets there, I can’t see how that can be a negative. But that’s just me, idk.

[@Toon_Topaz]

Yea agreed

[@miigi-p4939]

Btw i dont think the song is talking about how everyone is cosmic stardust i think its just oh dont care about that the answer is that everyone is special and a star in their way

[@Error403HRD]

That type of philosophy is actually existentialism! It's pretty cool. I'm an athiest and I firmly believe that there is no objective, all-encompassing point to life. Life just happens, and we should make the most of it! We are all unique individuals with our own thoughts and personalities, so we should each make our own meaning. You're a kind person that loves helping other people? Maybe you make your life's purpose to help as many people as possible, and maybe that leads you to becoming a doctor or firefighter. You're invested in the next generation? Maybe you make it your life's meaning to teach children and help them grow! I just think this philosophy is super cool, sorry 😅 And yeah, I have no idea how Wish BOTCHED I'm a Star that badly lol. I heard that the songwriter literally didn't know what the movie was about and was given vague directions on what to write the song about. That excuses the vagueness of the lyrics but... I don't think I can excuse the abysmal writing under ANY circumstances. The sheer amount of grammatical errors and nonsensical metaphors cannot be excused by not knowing what the movie is about.

[@watch.th3.k3k13]

Me too

[@MistyLunaLotus]

Except when you "make your own purpose" you live only to benefit yourself, not for the good of others and even if you try to do good unto others, then WHY do you do it? It doesn’t benefit you, so why do it? Cause it makes you feel good? Well killing others can make some people feel good, are they in the wrong? Why? They're stimulating their nerve endings just like you are. This is why you don't base your purpose on yourself, YOU are fallible as we all are. The only one who is infallible and unchanging is God.

[@mariak5096]

Was not expecting a Bible study in this Disney video ahaha. I will say I disagree with you on the take about nihilism, I think "I'm a star" was just trying to be like "we're all connected yay!" but just did so in the worst way possible. Really the worst part of the story (and the reason it feels so empty and bleak) is that none of the characters have any motivation for anything. The king is barely evil, and therefore Asha has no real reason to oppose him so much. That just makes her seem petty and selfish in general, forbidden fruit analogy notwithstanding. That said, though, it's absolutely wild in every way that Encanto, which came out TWO YEARS before Wish, is a movie from the same company with all the correct morals from a Christian standpoint. Not only are the characters themselves canonically Christian, but the story is full of messages about family, forgiveness, community, intrinsic self-worth, renewal, miracles (both large and small)--all very biblical stuff. Add that to the fact that everything about Encanto is far better than Wish in every way...really makes you wonder what the heck happened in just two years lol.

[@lauraw2526]

See, this is a better take on the song and nihilism than a lot of others I've seen in the comments here. It COULD have had a good message, but because it's written so poorly and isn't connected to anything else in the movie it comes across as meaningless.

[@avivastudios2311]

One thing I wish Encanto did was have the family members be more involved in the plot. It definitely is a better movie but the characters didn't have much to do.

[@kodiharmon7738]

17:39 Kids deal with a lot of negative messages nowadays thanks to social media, but oh my gosh. "The only reason you feel uncomfortable is because you're the wrong gender" ??? And "You'd be happier if you were gay" ??? If someone is sharing that they're happier because they're gay, its because that is THEIR experience. THEY were made to feel worthless for being gay or not identifying with their body. People can be straight and cis and perfectly happy! Most people are! But having discussions about how accepting yourself as who you are is NOT trying to tell kids "be gay its better". Its telling them that "even if youre different, you are wonderful and have value." I grew up Christian and am a lesbian. I was constantly ostracized and othered for being different, even before I fully understood myself. Having other people share that they had experiences like me was seriously life changing. We need to have these conversations for those who need them. Its not hating on cis or straight people to say that there are other types of people out there!! Its not taking away any sort of rights from them!

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Fr like I ain't ever seen someone say they'd be happier if they were gay or trans Usually I see ppl tryna push themselves away from that Cuz of the osztrozing you was mentioning 😭

[@Grey_3438]

@@kodiharmon7738 💯💯💯

[@neonrainbow47]

facts, the happiness comes from being yourself and being accepted for it not from being gay or trans

[@maryoraha2637]

frrrrrrr i hate when Christians bring up Bible verses when people are open about their identity like shut up I don’t need to “be saved” (Im Christian btw)

[@YadielRodriguez-yj6eq]

@@maryoraha2637 some Christian. Talk about a hypocrite

[@JueTheRoux]

17:00 was such a religious jumpscare yowza. My agnostic jaw was on the floor when it hard shifted into Christianity

[@opinionatedbacon]

yeah, it WAS kind of a hard turn into Christiandom, but admittedly the Adam and Eve parallel earlier was a BIT of a sign for what was ahead ;)

[@JueTheRoux]

@@opinionatedbacon a bit lol. Lots of non-christians also tend to make Bible parallels in analyzes because it's a very popular and influential piece of media whether you believe in it or not, but a lot of non-religious people I know also see the serpent as more of a morally gray character instead of evil. The actual foreshadowing that I probably should have picked up on more was you calling the serpent the villain.

[@runefactoryappreciator899]

not to mention the homophobic/transphobic graphic he threw up at the same time. i was flabbergasted

[@giuba98]

​@@runefactoryappreciator899 Omg I think I missed that, where was it?

[@runefactoryappreciator899]

@@giuba98 17:39, read the text bubbles on the thing he pulled up. i’m paraphrasing but two of them were like “people will only like me if i’m gay/a different gender”

[@catelynh1020]

Additionally, as a not-a-christian, "we're all stardust" isn't meant to make you think you're nothing. It's meant to say we're all connected. So many times i hear christians say "without god there is no meaning to anything" and that's pretty forking dark and nihilist. Like hearing "without god, everyone would rpe and hurt people and steal" and that tells you exactly what that person thinks. They're saying that without having their god over them, they would be participating in said bad things. As an athiest, knowing that all life is connected, that humans are no different from the rest of the creatures on the planet except for perhaps written language and thus more advanced technology passed down generationally while being very good at being an invasive species so spreading out to all areas of the globe, i find so much meaning in the life i have rather than just twiddling my thumbs until my death to get to the meaningful thing of "my next life" It is correct that the song doesn't answer the questions. The question is "why does all these things happen" and the answer is "we're all connected". Why are there tree rings? We're connected. Why does the sun go down at night? We're connected. It's a stupid response, but it isn't nihilism.

[@katrp_5700]

I appreciate you saying this. As someone who is agnostic myself, that’s such a horrible misunderstanding of non-Christian beliefs. I’m not a perfect person obviously, but I’m able to function and be a decent human without the moral guidance of a book. It’s basic empathy.

[@catelynh1020]

@@katrp_5700 My reward for being a good and moral person is that i feel good and get social brownie points. Not heaven. Like gifting someone something at christmas to see them happy you thought of them rather than because you want a gift in return. I owe my father 70 dollars and he won't ask for it because I'm good for it (i have it in my wallet for the next time i see him). I am considered trustworthy and am very loyal to my friends. Because it feels good to be. That said, the meaning i find in life is something i had to find for myself. I'm still not planning on kids so it isn't procreation. I love science and learning, but i also love helping others from the shadows (like setting the stage for someone else to shine). Religion just wasn't in the cards for me

[@callmehotnotpretty1]

Thank you so much for saying this, I was thinking the same thing!! The message that "we're all stardust so everything's connected in a way" is comforting. No idea how he read hopelessness or meaninglessness into that lol.

[@MrsYasha1984]

I know how he meant it. Ex-atheist here. The christian world view does not exclude us being made of star dust (from dust you came, dust you will become). It excludes that that was an accident or just coincidence. In the christian worldview, God had thought each of us into existence before He even created the world. He loved us all, specifically you personally!, to create YOU. Beats your existence being a coincidence by far imo😊 That does not mean atheists are by default degenerates, and that is not what the video said or implied. It's just that a secular worldview has more chance to lead into nihilism, because if you are your own 'summum bonum', 'highest good', it's way easier to cut some moral corners when dilemmas arise. (Granted, there are christians who fall into that too. The human condition affects us all, we are all sinners). Without a summum bonum outside of yourself, it gets sometimes hard to cope with the hard things in life. It can get really close to break you, can lead to despair and depression. At least that was the case with me. And then i fell back into the catholic Church, and whoa... suddenly i was flooded with an inner peace that i was looking for so long! And that inner peace comes from a connection to God, and makes it just easier to cope with life, and do the right things.

[@catelynh1020]

@@MrsYasha1984 "Fell back into the catholic church" sounds like you were of the faith and left it temporarily. Going back into the faith generally means you never became atheist (as it is incredibly difficult to believe something, not believe it, then believe it again), which makes it hard to determine if your difficulty to find meaning was due to your struggle during a time of not wanting to believe. For you, it was likely that your belief in god and my unbelief are as inshakable as "the sky is blue" (try to convince yourself to actually believe the sky is royal purple or forest green and you'll never truly believe it). But back to the religious comment, i do in fact need to point out that that god specifically does not in fact have to love you and want your existance. The abrahamic god starts with the same source material before each sect added their own work to it to change the god. The self-proclaimed jealous and wrathful god has to use rainbows to remind himself that destroying all life with a flood is no longer an option. Many people's lives were only as important as their worship or what they could do for god, such as any time god has someone killed for not believing (this is any city razed to the ground throughout the ot, or the innocent people wiped out in sodom, but also the installation of new kings and killing of people otherwise innocent just because they did not fit the idea god had). I think it was tamar who had her husband die, then her husband's brother was killed by god entirely because he did not want to get her pregnant. King david tried to rush into a marriage to have a pregnancy be legitimate and god tortured the resulting baby for a week before killing it. Job's family was killed (except his wife) to test his faith. Moses led a troop through the believers and had some 3k people killed because they weren't following the rules they hadn'r heard yet. Sure, the "chosen" people were supposed to receive good things, but that was entirely off the backs of the non chosen people. God didn't care for the firstborns of egypt when he killed them, nor for the needy when he had his followers turn all water in the land to something undrinkable for a while (i don't think it was a full week, but it wasn't just a day, either). He sent a bear to attack children, sent flaming snakes at people who asked for water, drowned the world because he regretted things... You *cannot* convince me that that god is good and loves everyone and wants the best for us. You aren't even a chosen person if you believe in christianity since that religion follows a false prophet just as much as mormonism does with joseph smith (and the abrahamic god would not take kindly to that as the first rule of the religion is "there's only one god and it's me") Edit: hit send too early

[@SleepyLuigi]

As a Christian, 16:53 felt a little too pushy. I was fine with the Adam and Eve/Garden of Eden stuff, but I felt like the other stuff was a bit too harsh on non-Christians.

[@Save_our_soulsV7]

Also, bacon did kind of say he might be pushing it a little bit or that it was definitely not intentional, but there are some similarities there so at least he’s self aware

[@kaitlynmorina583]

Exactly this. Especially the picture that was used at around 17:39 😭 Like “You’d be happier if you were gay” among other things is WILD

[@x-LunarEclipse-x]

Not being a Christian, it did feel like it was really pushy… and the ‘being made in god’s image’ really misses the point in my eyes.

[@piss7610]

He's joking lol

[@smcphee8499]

Fr. I'm Christian, too. But I'm sure other religions and people also have hope. And saying all that while comparing Magnifico to God made it a little weird.

[@meowsielee]

as a christian i think your point on i’m a star was a weird reach. it’s actually meant to do the opposite, trying to argue that everyone is important and magical considering how stars are the most important thing in this film. it’s a bad, bad song but i wouldn’t go that far

[@ek0dev]

I agree

[@autumnleaf4380]

I’m not a Christian but I am an optimistic nihilist, and I also felt like it was a bit of a reach. The song is largely meaningless (I’m pretty sure the only thing it was supposed to accomplish was explaining why Asha connected with the star and why she can understand the animals sometimes?) so I don’t blame them for seeing something like that in it at all, but I don’t think it was ever meant to just say everyone is meaningless stardust, it was *supposed* to say we’re all connected and inherently magical so it could tie in the “wish on yourselves” ending it had going (again, extremely poorly executed, but not the point). I’d also like to mention that the nihilism brought up in the video is pessimistic nihilism, and that a lot of people instead subscribe to optimistic nihilism, where you say “the world has no inherent meaning, so let’s make our own” instead of just laying down and accepting that we’ll all die one day or whatever. I agree that the movie he brought up had a pessimistic nihilist message that is overall harmful, but it’s not representative of nihilism as a whole. Optimistic nihilism is a pretty good worldview and motivator for a lot of agnostics/atheists like myself :)

[@gachalifelilly]

Yeah 😅

[@vertx6186]

Tbh i can see were he comes from with magnifico and the forbiden fruit, but this part did seem like a jump and i also disagree but only on the topic of the song

[@winterfrost589]

Yeah I agree! The message was so weird at that part. The “you’d be happier if you were gay” at 17:39 is just like??? NO ONE is saying that. In fact, I’d argue that they say the opposite. Just because it’s becoming more accepted doesn’t mean it’s being pushed onto children. It’s just a weird message to include if we’re talking about why the songs in the movie are flopping.

[@ran_out_of_oxygen_]

17:40 "You'd be happier If you were gay" is just wild? Also like why was there so much christianity in a video about a wish movie like I get the garden of Eden stuff and interpretetuon cuz that was interesting but you dont have to push your beliefs lol

[@tombolt13thexehanort29]

So talking about beliefs you hold in a video made by you is pushing your beliefs. So Gay people and everyone else can talk about all their beliefs they want, but Christians can't speak about their beliefs even in their own videos.

[@CrustyMajesty]

Right, that was super weird-

[@LoretheCryptid]

Ok damn ngl I didn’t read the stuff there and was honestly bracing for a “gay ppl in shows bad” thing after all that and was almost happy to at least be proven wrong there… didn’t realize it was there that’s so nice sometimes it’s sad being proven right😭

[@H0wCl3ver]

Ever heard of a thing called “Freedom of Speech?” If you don’t like it, watch another video.

[@LoretheCryptid]

@@H0wCl3ver sooooo funny story freedom of speech means you can’t be arrested for saying smth shitty (not protecting anything that can harm/kill ppl tho) it has nothing to do with social interactions and the consequences for saying smth stupid. Plus if you wanna use that logic you’re limiting my freedom of speech to argue with you💞

[@ladypool1404]

The climax in Mulan: She worked with her friend Mushu to KILL the villain. The climax in Lion king 1: Simba is fighting his uncle to save his kingdom. The climax in Aladdin: Alasdin fight Jafar in a fire circle. Wish's climax: The citizens sings and it somehow defeat a powerful sorcerer? It makes no sense, is not cool or entertaining either. Worst climax in disney's history ☹️

[@tabitharust304]

For real it was literally the most underwhelming part in the movie(okay, maybe not, but definitely one of them) and actually the whole movie was. You watch it once and you go "hm, yeah once is good enough" whereas the others there is so many things you can go back and rewatch and it amazes you every time

[@karathewolfsfanficchannel933]

That let it grow ending was so disappointing IMDb said Asha and Magnífico duel it out but no all there was was “so I make this wiiiiiish”

[@rednpurple]

Just wait until you've seen the climax to the Rodfellows movie

[@KendraElizabethh]

I liked this video but was a little put-off by the sudden veer into Christian elitism. "At least we have hope", is a pretty condescending thing to say to those whose lives do have meaning, born from themselves and not a god. Not everyone that isn't a Christian is a nihilist.

[@AbadaAnon]

I was sure he meant in comparison to the sentiment of underlying nihilism he said was represented in Wish. I don't think he said that in reference to atheism.

[@H0wCl3ver]

I agree with the other reply, and he knew that literally almost every comment was going to say “Your wrong, I’m right, you should change because I said so.” So he was likely just putting that out there.

[@613aristocrat]

At the very least, you have to have some higher purpose so you don't veer into nihilism. But sticking it to Christianity only is definitely a biased choice.

[@ianmurphy3840]

I completely agree with your points on At All Cost. It is a good song, but it not relevant in the movie's story. It a hero and villain duet, but has the tones of love song. Tonally it can give people the wrong idea out of context because in the movie Asha just met Magifico. Heck, the main song writer purposely want people to use it for their weddings and lullabies. But the main point of it on perspective of protecting wish's? Which on is it? A love song or a song about protection?

[@Rikrobat]

This is my biggest issue with the music in Wish; these songs weren't created with storytelling in mind. They half-heartedly assist sometimes, but they don't exist as a way to progress the story or reveal something to the audience that is integral to the characters/plot. And it makes sense since the songwriter was tasked to write the songs before the movie was even completed. Creating "At All Costs" to be meaningful to anybody in the audience is logically fine for regular songs, but it shouldn't be for a musical number. It should be integral to the similarities and differences between the protagonist and the villain: they start on the same page but by then end, it's clear they have different priorities or ideas of how to fulfill their goals. If the audience finds meaning in the song outside of its story context, that's amazing, but it shouldn't be the goal of the songwriter.

[@ianmurphy3840]

@@Rikrobat I agree, the song should tackle the similarities and differences between Asha and Magnifico. The only information we get is protect the wishes and how wonderful there are. That is not enough for a villain and hero duet.

[@Rikrobat]

@@ianmurphy3840 - Especially when it can be the first hint that Magnifico is willing to do anything to maintain things “as they are” versus Asha who wants the people to thrive with their wishes. (Of course, the visuals would have to change so that Asha isn’t only focusing on her grandfather’s wish while singing about protecting everyone’s wishes, but I digress. XD)

[@apnosaurus]

Treating Jesus like other cultures aimless and looking for something because they don’t have them is so Christian.

[@Lexichi22]

"You're A Star = Nihilism" seems like the hottest take. Considering the fact that moments before the song, a MAGIC STAR came down from the sky, I can't help but be inclined to believe that the point is "we all have magic within us," as opposed to "we're all insignificant." This is first and foremost a Disney movie, after all.

[@opinionatedbacon]

A good take, honestly, but I was more examining it from the point of "what does literally being a star actually mean for you", simply because the song treats the characters being stars as pretty literal (the turtle's line about being nebulae in a nursery hits that point too) and that somehow that fact is supposed to answer all of life's questions. I can totally see it having the moral you mention, but if it's there, it's so hidden beneath horribly written lyrics that suggest something more literal. I get what you're saying though ;)

[@Lexichi22]

@@opinionatedbacon honestly it doesn't help that the song that's supposed to explain everything barely explains anything at all.

[@tylerharris7081]

I would say that while the song itself isn't intended to be nihilistic but the meaning behind it is. "You're a Star" is such a cliched and empty platitude that it ultimately has no value to it. It is the thing you write on a birthday card for a coworker you can't remember the name of. Nothing but an empty praise to artificially boost someone's self esteem for 5 minutes.

[@leavemealone802]

Great review dude. Just two things: There is a difference between nihilism and positive nihilism. I haven't seen the Orion movie, but if the message is "nothing in the end will matter, so do what makes you happy," I do not think is a bad message, since we live in a very anxiety heavy society. But I haven't seen the movie. Will check it out and see if you are right And i just want to say to everyone who has religion trauma like I do: the answer for all questions, comes from you. God it is not the ultimate answer for everyone. If it is for many people, great! It was my answer for a while until I realized following the word of God blindly made me unhappy. If the answer for you isn't God, that is okay. The ultimate answer isn't, and it doesn't have to be God

[@Window4503]

Positive nihilism is just dishonest nihilism. It’s Mr. Peanut Butter vs. Bojack. Allocating meaning to yourself is what’s exacerbating anxiety because now you’re the sole reason for triumph or failure. No one’s there to catch you or help you. And in any circumstance beyond your agency, it’s all up to you to turn it around and if you can’t, too bad. Not everyone lives that out but that’s only because they haven’t followed that line of thinking to its natural conclusion. Besides, “humans make meaning in a meaningless world” is circular reasoning. If there is no meaning then it should not be comprehensible to us, much less accessible to make-much like creating a new color-we don’t have the tools to make or understand something that doesn’t exist in some form (even our fantasy art uses bits of reality). As for Christianity, “Follow the Bible” can range from “participate in aspects of Christian culture that may or may not align with Scripture” to “confuse Christian living with salvation and burn out trying to be perfect while claiming I live by grace” to “fully understand the gospel and its implications”. For many, it’s usually the first two and once they’re done, they don’t go back and simply question whether they actually had a sustainable theology. One person tried to warn me that I should leave the faith because she was so passionate and it damaged her. But I never held the belief that I have to participate in everything and hold to a strict regimen and try my hardest to feel holy in order to be a “good Christian” like she did. The gospel brings rest because at its core you’re admitting you’re not perfect and you need and have a Savior. Freed from the guilt of sin, you have genuine agency and are given a sense of real meaning that isn’t based on circular reasoning. Now I don’t HAVE to make my own meaning, I can just be, because it’s taken care of. I don’t have to find my own fate or even worry about finding some obscure idea of “God’s plan” (a product of Christian culture using Isaiah out of context) because my God-given agency as a Christian IS part of the plan. All that to say, consider looking again. Was your theology sustainable to begin with, or was it woven in with other teachings and movements?

[@i.cs.z]

​@@Window4503My guy, no that's not "dishonest nihilism" it's way closer to the actual philosophy of Nietzsche than the other one. There is no god, there is no destiny, you don't have to live up to anything. So it's just up to you to figure out what makes you happy. To quote Terry Pratchet: "YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES. "So we can believe the big ones?" YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING. "They're not the same at all!" YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET-Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED. "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point-" MY POINT EXACTLY." It's not "circular reasoning", it's only humans, it's basic logic. Humans made up faith, humans made up all the gods that were ever worshipped, humans made up the hospel, humans created your saviour. Humans created everything you believe in. We are the only ones who can create meaning. Maybe you are unwilling to accept it, but you also make up your own meaning, you choose to believe the human created concept if God. A concept humans created, to give meaning to things. Some people are just more honest abouth doing it, or aren't satisfied with the pre created options.

[@cc_trash]

​@@Window4503 whole lotta words that i can just retort to you with: Have a support system. *Any* positive support system. Hell, have many different support systems! We're not born with a purpose, so *find* meaning in the life you live every day. Whether it be finding love, compassion, understanding, or just self-fulfillment, you can find ways to achieve all of these. Friends, Family, Communities, Hobbies, Faith, (...) These are source that can have either positive or negative effects on your overall life and happiness, and it IS up to you to seek that quality of life and that happiness. You owe it to yourself! You *deserve* to be happy and loved, no matter where that comes from. We're all just trying to get by! Each of us has our own way! It's ok if mine and yours aren't the same, it's just my job to respect you and give you the empathy you deserve. Like the bible says, Love Thy Neighbor!

[@fastandthecurious3372]

​@@i.cs.zHey @i.cs.z! I really appreciate your perspective on this topic, but have you ever considered the idea that if there is no God, it raises questions about what created the world? I know you might point to the Big Bang, but it does seem a bit hard to grasp that something just happened from nothing. When you think about it, the concept of life coming from non-life can feel like quite a leap. On the other hand, believing in an omnipresent and all-powerful God suggests that life comes from life, which seems to have a certain logic to it. I truly respect your beliefs, and I'm not trying to dismiss them-just hoping to share my perspective on this interesting discussion.

[@i.cs.z]

@fastandthecurious3372 No. And this questiong bring the question up: what created God then? Why is it so hard to grasp that sonething just happened, when by your own logic God also just happened. "Life has to come from life, so that's why it's logical that there is a God, but God had no progenitor" is extremly illogical. An all powerfull God coming from nothing, or having always existed just because is a leap so wast it's uncomparable to any other logical hole. In other words. An all powerfull God existing is the most illogical conclusion one can make.

[@andrijatomorad9885]

Good video, but I think this nihilistic reading of "I'm a star" is really far-fetched. Don't get me wrong, the song is AWFUL, but I just don't see where that expanded reading at 16:35 comes from. I don't really see that in the song... I think "you're a star" is meant to be a way of saying "you're awesome"... It's a very hacky and played out way of saying that, but I don't see any nihilism. In fact, this "you're nothing but stardust or cosmic accident... so there is no meaning" is something I hear very rarely... and when I do hear it, it's usually from religious people presenting that as the alternative to their religion. Even people who would say something on that "you're stardust" note and connect it to the meaning of life (which is not necessary; you can just recognise the fact that the matter that makes you was stardust billions of years ago, and think it does not imply anything about meaning) would probably find meaning in the very thought that their existence is extremely unlikely while being kind and understanding to others because they recognise that others are in the same situation. So, even if we make that thought existential, it's still not automatically nihilistic.

[@miigi-p4939]

No joke this is literally how i tried to stick myself to the church cuz in my mind it was like Theres either god or theres nothing so i prefer to be unhappy all my life with the promise of paradise instead of.embracing myself and doing my best to have a good life As someone who got out of church this feels so far fetched Atheism is not oh we are nothing and we are gonna die (except when its nihilism Its more like oh theres no god so i should be able to do what i want as long as i dont hurt anyone and i shouldnt let family be the only thing that defines who you are

[@kapoopy2856]

honestly, that whole bit threw me a bit out of loop. I didn't know there would be a major religious reading into these songs, which i don't mind, (The first part about the snake I didn't mind, it was a fun idea) people can have their own interpetations. However that pic at 17:39 I dunno, it felt pretty tasteless to me. Like wtf was that thing in the corner *evil scolding voice* "You'd be happier if you were gay". Lol what the hell does that have to do with anything (i really really hoped it was just a joke, but I don't think it is)

[@andrijatomorad9885]

@@kapoopy2856 Yeah, I agree with what you said. I didn't focus on 17:39 in my comment since that moment felt to me like a very minor part of the video and it is possible that the whole image was just taken for somewhere and meant to be a joke/meme to some extent. But yeah, most of these things I haven't really heard and just find confusing, especially the "gay" one (well, that and the "color" one, which I'm not even completely sure whether it's talking about race because of how awkwardly it's phrased)... I think I'm just gonna take that statement as if 'gay' was used as a synonym for 'happy'. That's how it can actually make sense, even if it's as trivial as "you don't need to pay rent when you're living for free".

[@vadalia3860]

Save your energy, the creator of this video just wanted to evangelize and buried it under the cover of a critique of the big movie. Christian apologetics like this video creator's doesn't have to actually follow logic or even be true because it only attacks a strawman of their own creation, rather than engaging in good faith with the real beliefs of those who disagree with them.

[@katrp_5700]

@@kapoopy2856I thought he was making some good points but he totally lost me there. The “false happiness” image was so tone deaf 😭

[@valentynar1143]

I feel like the christianity part was lowkey useless too, because everyone has different beliefs and just because nihilism was so oddly and badly portrayed in some media doesn't mean it's bad. I personally don't ascribe myself to any beliefs except my own morals and the belief that every living being not necessarily has worth? Because what does that even mean? To be worthy of something is a odd concept, I would rather say we all have the right to a good and fulfilling life, but it's only up to yourself to figure out what you want and achieve it all while respecting and not putting down or hurting others

[@MeemahSN]

'There's no meaning to life' doesn't mean that nothing matters--it means that you create your own meaning and follow your own path.

[@ek0dev]

THIS!! It's annoying when people assume that because I don't think there's a grand reason or meaning to life, that I think nothing matters. It just means that there isn't a predetermined purpose for existence, but it doesn't make anything matter less to us while we're alive

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

SAY IT LOUDERRR👻✨

[@avivastudios2311]

No, because you can't actually create something. We don't have that ability. We can only rearrange what's already here. If meaning doesn't exist, we can't make it.

[@MeemahSN]

@@avivastudios2311 Meaning is not a physical thing. We can create meaning. It is not matter.

[@tombolt13thexehanort29]

You are missing a descriptor. To say "there is no meaning to life" is contradictory to "you make the meaning of life" as you have already declared there isn't meaning. What you are trying to say is there "is no predetermined meaning to life". Yes this is symantics and yes usually people can get what you mean, but I feel like being pedantic.

[@SyvaTheWolf123]

Being of no religion myself, its actually less nihilistic to think that we're all made up of the same stardust. To me, it makes me feel more connected to people, that when a person dies, they will return to the stars where we all will eventually join them. And while we're alive, we are still connected to those we lost through our own stardust. But it also makes us individuals, as every star is different and special

[@Grey_3438]

Had to dip after 17:38 because of how badly it turned me off this whole vid, but I had to return because I just can't leave alone the fact how odd and disconcerting this image is along with the overall overt Christian messaging in this entire video. Apart from this single image just being the stock-standard fearmongering over people "turning" kids gay and trans by simply being more open and accepting of the LGBT+ community, the sudden bombardment of Bible verses beforehand left a bad taste in my mouth, especially when there was hardly any of that prior to this point. Coupled with the preaching about "morality" (that we all know specifically means Christian morality in this case) and kids being "'attacked' on all sides" just gave me super off vibes about this whole video. You were making some genuinely valid critiques about the songs already, breaking down the individual structures and lyrics; I'm really not sure why you decided to suddenly interject with a Sunday school lesson. Frankly, the whole "I'm a Star" section of this video is just a gigantic reach that's looking for something that really just isn't there. Is the song bad? Oh, yes, definitely; it's absolutely atrocious. But it has *nothing* to do with it supposedly being nihilistic or telling kids that life is meaningless and that nothing you do matters or whatever. I initially didn't think too much of this review being viewed through a Christian lenses; Biblical interpretations of media are nothing new, and I actually found the idea of Asha and Magnifico being viewed as the snake and Eve respectively from the story of Adam and Eve kind of interesting. My issue is when this review started to feel less like a critical analysis on why Wish's song lyrics don't work on a fundamental level and more like a church sermon from a preacher on the side of the road. My nail in the coffin was when the homophobia and transphobia were snuck in with that tasteless image to try and drive what was an already baseless point home.

[@gothiqplague]

could not continue the video after that, 😶 talk about shoving stuff in peoples face

[@rolyatinsonia]

Legit a jumpscare 😭

[@bookfairy01]

Same. I was going to subscribe because I liked the video but then....yeah. Not the channel for me

[@pinkdiamond1847]

I mean, I guess I'm a Christian nihilist because I've already accepted my place in hell due to the fact that I'm a sinner no matter what (just like everyone).and it will be a pleasant surprise if God accepts me into his kingdom if I'm somehow able to repent before I die. But I still do the right thing as often as I can not because I'm afraid that I will go to hell if I don't, but because it's the right thing to do. I don't trust the type of Christians who claim that there is no morality without God because I don't trust their morals because they're essentially admitting that if they didn't fear the big man in the sky watching them all the time, they would do horrible things because there would be nothing else stopping them the idea of just doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do doesn't cross their minds. They have to fear eternal punishment to do the right thing. Those people are scary. At least the so-called nihilists don't need to fear any eternal punishment to be decent human beings.

[@musical_trash4_your_inform115]

I was previously subscribed cause of his shorts and thought maybe I could get into his long form content. But the nosedive into religion, saying Magnifico is God, and Asha is the snake (who is commonly associated with Satan). I just can't understand how we could go from a critique of a bare bone's children's movie into this ridiculous notion that Disney is trying to push Nihilism onto children, not even to get started on the religious supremacy regarding it. Felt like he couldn't even stop himself after the section either with how the references kept popping up throughout the second half of the video. Honestly...

[@monedooo]

i feel like disney just forgot how color theory works i swear 80% of this movie is grey

[@gserulle323]

Star is the only one with great color

[@subtleteacup]

This video was pretty fun until you started with the weird christian analogies... I don't know, i guess maybe i wasn't expecting it? I don't know, it felt a little too stretched...

[@fieldofdandelions1508]

Lol, same. I felt like I was interrupting something. I'm here to make fun of a low quality movie, not be forced into a weirdo preach session. I'm blocking this guy, lmao.

[@AbadaAnon]

​@@fieldofdandelions1508 lol people have different faiths it's really not like that's the entire focus of the video either

[@ECSOrder66]

@@fieldofdandelions1508 Blocking someone because they shared their beliefs, and not yours? Beautiful. Sounds like you have an unhealthy moral structure.

[@Violets_and_Madness]

​@@ECSOrder66 You can block someone for any reason at any time. I don't want to be preached at either when all I did was click on a video to make fun of a bad movie. It's not some moral failing to not want to be preached at randomly, especially since we've all heard the same Christian rhetoric a thousand times over

[@ECSOrder66]

@@Violets_and_Madness And that's where you're objectively wrong. If you block someone because they don't share the exact same beliefs, that's a testament to your unwillingness to hear them out, rather than it is an issue on their part. Side note: We've not all heard the Word. I've talked with people the other day in my local center who's never even heard of the idea that we have a Saviour who died for us. So that just proves you are ignorant of how many people need to hear this, but you don't want them to because YOU'VE already heard it. It's not for you, it's for those who have never heard about it. It's entirely on you if you feel like you DESERVE to block someone over different beliefs, simply because YOU didn't want to hear it, and speaks to your failed morals through blatant selfishness.

[@user-xe7vz1wn2r]

I was on board but like Jesus jumpscare man, I’m a Christian too but like that was not relevant at all 😭

[@jajairaidoru]

Jesus always is relevant 😔☝️

[@tmtorsmth]

​@@jajairaidoruno. It's an objective review, he shouldn't have put in personal beliefs

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

@@tmtorsmth no, its not. its a review made by a person. a person will always has their own personal beliefs and biases, no matter how objective they try to be.

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

i dont see any problem? the comparison with the story of Adam and Eve was correct, and its our own experiences that shape our view on problems and dylemas. bringing Bible into it is no different from bringing other Disney movies into it. both are works of culture and pieces of art, after all. im a Christian too

[@lexezlao]

​@@jajairaidoruthis is giving answering Jesus in like a math problem because "Jesus is always the answer" or something

[@keshang_laow8325]

My favorite Disney movie would be hunchback of Notre Dome. The thing is, as a kid, i saw the movie, and my mother got me the PC game, but i never owned the movie. Then my friend gave me access to Disney Plus, and i watched it for the first time in at least 15 years. I had completely forgotten about the villain song, but then watching it as an adult just made it hit harder for me, and it's honestly my 2nd favorite song from the whole movie.

[@avivastudios2311]

The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a Masterpiece. I love God Help the Outcasts. Second favorite song in the movie.

[@Napkinthekat]

17:28 I feel like the random tangent about believing in god was pretty weird and presumptuous. I’m an atheist and I got nothing against Christians but like the dig at saying there’s not particular purpose to life and using ‘no actually there is god did all of this! You may hate Christians but you have to say we have hope!’ Is like presuming everyone who isn’t part of your religion hates you for being religious and doesn’t have hope. We do it’s just that we have a different set of beliefs. Like I’m not nihilistic but to me the fact that everything in my belief system happened by chance makes everything a bit more special and the fact that I don’t think there’s an afterlife or a point to life motivates me to make sure the life I have is as good as I can make it. I want to have as good of a time as I can before I go and that gives me peace of mind. This comment isn’t meant to be antagonistic and I randomly stumbled upon your channel so idk if this is a regular thing you do but like nobody is out to get Christians. The way you phrase your statements feels very us vs them when it really ain’t. This is supposed to be a video on why the music in wish is bad not a bunch of unrelated mentions of other movies and how they’re corrupting your kids. Who are ‘they’ why do they want to corrupt children. Is they just anyone who doesn’t believe in god?? The music is not bad because it thinks things happen because of chance or has a vaguely nihilistic line. Just like wanted to ping that out again not trying to mock your beliefs or anything I don’t care what you believe it’s just that in the context of the video it doesn’t really make sense nor is it that good of a criticism. Also before any Christians like say something about atheism, it’s literally just me believing in science. Science ISNT against Christianity. Science is just like stuff you can prove about the universe and life through research. You can believe in science and be Cristian there are plenty of Cristian scientists that I like. That’s all atheism has really ever meant to me. This doesn’t mean I don’t have morals or think everyone else is dumb I just don’t believe in anything else because for me it’s not my thing . This goes for any religion. For me science is the only thing that really guides my decisions and rationale.

[@maddythedorito8343]

the tangent threw me off a little and i couldn't understand why but I think your first paragraph sums it up pretty well. That's a lot like how I think of my life as well

[@moonfish3638]

The creator of the Big Bang (the theory, not the show) was a Catholic. I’m Christian and believe that the origin of the Big Bang was divinely inspired- our scientific advancements is just us learning more about how God formed our world. This video sounds like it was made by a creationist who thinks the earth is 8000 years old and evolution is fake, and the only people I know who think that are homeschooled evangelicals. He doesn’t have to agree with other’s views but it sounds like he doesn’t understand them in the first place and sees any criticism as “blind Christian hate” or whatever.

[@moon7shinev150]

This isn't even the songwriters fault, Julia Michaels was literally given a description of the movie and a 3 week deadline. Which is so confusing to me since songwriters are usually involved in the entire movie process. Like look at Alan Menken and Lin Manuel Miranda both were heavily involved throughout the entire movie process. Hell in Encanto Lin Manuel Miranda even changed Bruno's original name Oscar to Bruno solely for the song We Don't Talk About Bruno for the line Bruno no no. It's not even the fact that Julia Michael's is a pop song artist since we know that pop songs can work in a Disney movie from Phil Collins songs in Tarzan

[@vibely.7511]

I totally agree. From what I know about Julia Michaels she's an amazing songwriter. This soundtrack really doesn't feel like the quality she usually writes, and I totally don't blame her "knowing what I know now".

[@My-mind_me.]

Yea honestly im still confused why Disney made that choice. It truly makes no sense at all. Also i love ur profile pic! RAYLA!

[@Monkeyfish000]

I can just see the stilt person crying in a corner 😂

[@WolfTrot]

I saw him, he's not okay

[@julianestebanarroyave9509]

I think the songs were rushed julia michaels was only given 3 weeks to write this wish with very little context of the plot of the movie the story wasn't finished yet and these songs were probably written early in the production because of the higher ups micromanaged the entire development of wish

[@avengirl6479]

I feel so bad for Julia Michaels honestly. Disney really did her dirty

[@julianestebanarroyave9509]

@@avengirl6479 nit disney the higher upside ruining disney pixar marvel and star wars as a whole

[@rolyatinsonia]

What’s up with the homophobia and transphobia in that speech bubble part?

[@ECSOrder66]

@@rolyatinsonia you mean... common sense? Weird.

[@rolyatinsonia]

​@@ECSOrder66 boo loser👎 😘 Go pray to be a better person please x

[@ECSOrder66]

@@rolyatinsonia I think that's for you to do. I know my God is the truth, and what he deemed as morality. I'm not a loser, I'm one of the only people you'll ever know who wants the best for you. You need to understand that homosexuality and transgenderism is a sin. It's an abomination of twisting God's great design into something it isn't. I'm not going to take sass from someone who accepts delusion as the norm, and can't be bothered to have a civil conversation with anyone who isn't in their echo chamber. Go pray to be a better person, please. God loves you!

[@trashracoonnn]

ok no that's not common sense, in fact, it makes NO SENSE at all.

[@ECSOrder66]

@@trashracoonnn You're right, LGBT makes no sense.

[@stephenclaridge5654]

They coulda have said "watch out world here we are" but no. W A T C H O U T W O R L D H E R E I A R E

[@elianaslivia4405]

Me at 3am rewriting At All Costs

[@Roxie_ET]

I legit feel like "you're a star" in this sense was meant to be a pep talk, like "rock star" or "superstar". I think it was supposed to be metaphorically encouraging Asha by saying that everyone is special in their own way, but that message was just delivered terribly that it sounds like they're just talking about literal stars, which, yeah, maybe not a good idea

[@opinionatedbacon]

yeah exactly, and the "we are our own origin story" line makes it seem even MORE like the song is actually supposed to answer those questions :.)

[@tabitharust304]

That's the thing, it's so vague you have no idea what it's actually supposed to be talking about😭and without the context of the movie, you just have to assume(even WITH the context, still unnecessarily incredibly hard to understand lol) if you want to see a much better song then search up "wubbzy you're a star", its from a kids show but at least you actually know what the point is!!

[@opinionatedbacon]

@@tabitharust304 yeah I think "You're a Star" is so meaningless it can pretty much mean whatever you THINK it means. I took its meaninglessness to mean that its meaning is meaninglessness, but I can see why someone else would have a different interpretation simply because it's so horribly written :.)

[@leebulger7112]

​@@opinionatedbaconI thought Your a Star is pretty cringy like it was the only song in the movie that I covered my ears and hoping for it to end. I think part of it is the talking animals that come out of nowhere and somehow know everything about stars.

[@carolinadegennaro666]

pep talk??? that sounds like an OMORI REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!

[@beatrizcosta8137]

I was e joying the review of the music until "the reason is... your a star is so meaningless, because the reason is God". Yep you stop analysing the movie to feel hurt about your believes. Both answer are pretty meaningless

[@A_Mellow_Axolotl346]

Bro what? That’s his opinion from the movie and also he was just trying to make you feel better about yourself as well. Just because you don’t like Christian’s doesn’t mean you should have something ruined for you because someone is.

[@fireflight7226]

@@A_Mellow_Axolotl346But the thing is, there was no reason the creator had to bring up the subject, especially in a video about a Disney movie. It feels kinda forced how he suddenly started bringing up Christianity and Bible verses.

[@A_Mellow_Axolotl346]

@@fireflight7226 if he saw parallels in his opinion between this and the Bible and he wishes to speak about it, let him speak. It’s a take on this, not a truth. Besides, brining up his beliefs drew was to attempt to boost your confidence. You don’t need to talk about how you don’t like it, nor should it ruin a whole video for you

[@fireflight7226]

@@A_Mellow_Axolotl346 it wasn’t a parallel between the two things, it was just straight up referencing the entire religion because the song was about people being stars

[@KaeMcSpadden]

Also in a previous draft, both the king and queen were going to be evil, making the first Disney villain couple. That would have been so fun to have an evil couple who are madly in love.

[@devinskoglund6320]

Like blades of glory

[@KaeMcSpadden]

@@devinskoglund6320 kind of, but in blades of glory, they were brother and sister.

[@devinskoglund6320]

@@KaeMcSpadden they still kissed at the end

[@KaeMcSpadden]

@@devinskoglund6320 yeah, because the actors who played them were husband and wife at the time, but they were playing a brother and sister pair. So the characters are incestuous

[@devinskoglund6320]

@@KaeMcSpadden I know

[@syntaxstudy1931]

17:16 wouldnt have guessed a random silly video about disney songs would segway into unsolicited religious indoctrination that quick, given how good the rest of the video was

[@Tartaglitwo]

Was on board until the video became some Christian preach camp I’m a very queer positive nihilistic person and I can assure nihilism isn’t just “you’re useless, life is meaningless and we’re all gonna die”. It’s more so of a belief that every living being has to find meaning for themselves- that we all only have one, meaningless life, so the best for us is to find the meaning in life. Everyone has a different meaning for life, and everyone’s meaning is valid because in the end, why does it matter to me what you want to do? My meaning is mine, your meaning is yours, and we shouldn’t force that on each other. If you believe in God and I believe in.. well, nothing, I’m not going to go around telling you God isn’t real and you shouldn’t go around telling me I’m nothing without God. Even if somebody worships an objectively evil entity, why should you care? You’re going to your ‘afterlife’, and they’re going to theirs. For me, my ‘afterlife’ is nothingness. And because it is nothingness, I don’t have to worry about what is ‘morally correct’ because when I die, it all fades to black. I will do what I want, I will do what makes me happy, and I’ll do all that because otherwise, what is the meaning of life? Also for the gay/trans part that’s very disrespectful, as a Christian shouldn’t you not judge and respect everybody? It seems in that image you were very much judging queer people, insinuating that they forced children to be like them. I was not forced into being trans. I was not forced into being gay. In fact, I had no idea what being queer meant until I was around 11. My parents are against the LGBTQ+ community and my environment wasn’t friendly to the idea either. Yet, here I am. As of now, I haven’t pressured anybody into being me and neither has 90% of the community. Thanks for listening to my pep talk >3

[@maddythedorito8343]

I found the comparison of Adam and Eve to wish interesting but he lost me a little bit after that. I agree with the first half of your paragraph and I would like to add that I always found the idea of doing what is 'morally correct' for the sake of going to heaven a little strange, i think if you are going to do something morally correct it should be because you empathise with the people and animals that surround you, because everyone has unseen circumstances. I'm happy for people who find purpose in god, I have friends of various religions and we all respect each other's beliefs and boundaries. Can't say much on the 2nd half because I'm just bi and haven't struggled with that, all I can say is I hope you've found your happiness and community.

[@GoldenHawk18-dp9js]

You know what really annoys me? The fact that Asha's braids are always over her shoulder. They're never just behind her.

[@mari_golds-bleeding-ink]

I always thought it’d look nicer if she had braids behind her with a few braids over her shoulder. It’d stay mostly true to the design while still looking good.

[@R3que1tus]

Had me up until the transphobia, homophobia, and overall disrespect to other religions. Just because someone is aware of science, or expresses themselves differently, or believes in a different afterlife, doesn’t mean they think life is meaningless?? Like, what??? Where did you draw that conclusion?? You were here to talk about songs from a Disney movie, what does this have to do with anything? This is coming from a Christian, by the way.

[@ECSOrder66]

I don't think this is coming from a Christian. Christians do not support homosexuality or transgenderism as they know it is a sinful lifestyle and choice. And if you were a Christian, you'd know you can't be disrespcting something that doesn't exist. And as the Bible says, there is no truth but God. Anything that is not of God is not of the truth. The false religions are not being disrespected, they're being called out on BEING false religions.

[@three_mr_three]

I love your channel and your videos, but I don’t understand what “I’m a star” has to do with nihilism or Orion on the Dark’s messages. It sounds like it’s trying to do the opposite of telling you that you’re meaningless (it’s still a bad song though7

[@three_mr_three]

Didn’t mean to put that 7 there

[@ECSOrder66]

It sounds like it's saying "You're nothing, except what you make of yourself" which is a dangerous mindset. It means you can do anything you wish without worry, because it means nothing in the end. That mindset is exactly what leads people to Hell.

[@justfaeriethings]

i feel like 'you're more because god says so' is also a weird moral tbh

[@ECSOrder66]

It's moreso that God created us with the reason being that he's given us a purpose and a reason to live. Without God, we are nothing. And I mean that literally. We would not exist without a Creator. So you take away the Creator, you take away us.

[@mossyrocks3967]

@@ECSOrder66 there is no creator. we evolved.

[@ECSOrder66]

@mossyrocks3967 No proof of that has been discovered, hence why evolution is called a "theory", which as defined is observable evidence not yet proven. Sure, people have valid reason to believe it is what happened to us, but nothing PROVES without a doubt that IS how it happened.

[@hackshackers3513]

17:39 ahhh i was agreeing til you pulled out the homophobia and transphobia outta nowhere :/

[@drackyslime]

I could go without the Christian ideology tacked onto this, but at the very least that perspective can provide an interesting outlook on the film from a personal standpoint that you might not get otherwise The homo/transphobia though was *really* deflating. I just looked at my screen and went “oh this is what we’re doing now”. Really soured the entire video

[@alexjewett7455]

I don't think you're a star is nihilistic. Preachy and unhelpful, certainly, but not nihilistic. But on the subject, what's more nihilistic, thinking life came about through random chance, or needing an outside source to give your life meaning?

[@ECSOrder66]

The answer is: The idea that life came about through random chance. I don't think you know what nihilism is. It's basically: "You mean nothing, so do whatever you want" Christianity is a polar opposite: "You mean so much that I sent my Son who died to save you, and I gave you a plan for your life."

[@alexjewett7455]

@@ECSOrder66 life not being created doesn't prevent it from having meaning, it just means you get to choose what that meaning is. And personally, that sounds a lot more appealing than being told your life only has value because someone else said so.

[@ECSOrder66]

@@alexjewett7455 Then you're into nihilism, simple as that. You claimed that the idea of God deciding for you is nihilist, but that is the exact OPPOSITE of nihilism.

[@alexjewett7455]

@@ECSOrder66 if that's the definition you want to work with, then sure, I'm a nihilist. But is that really a bad thing? What wrong with wanting to decide your own destiny, instead of letting the universe's deadbeat dad tell you what it is?

[@ECSOrder66]

@alexjewett7455 Deadbeat dad? He's still there. Always watching. And you still do decide your own destiny. You either go to Heaven or Hell. And that's YOUR choice. Nihilism is different though, and far more dangerous. It deals with the idea that if life is meaningless, you can do whatever you want, whatever you decide for yourself. (Legally, of course), which means that morality is irrelevant. For many, that means they've chosen to go to Hell. As they subscribe to the false belief that we don't need morals, and therefore will lead yourself to the only place in all of existence without any sense of morality. To clarify what morality is, it's the objective concept of good and evil. We can't define morality from a subjective point of view. What it is is what it is. If you do not follow moral objective standards, you are not worthy of Heaven. That's the choice YOU make. Nihilism is about rejecting the idea of God, and thus dooming yourself to forever being without Him. There IS no in-between. No tunnel you enter where God is like: "Hmm... so you were a terrible person before you died. Wanna try again?" Nope. Once you die, that's it. No trying again. No other chances. That's the end. What's the end? That's up to you. Is the end darkness and suffering, or light and happiness? Your choice. Christianity subscribes to the idea that life has meaning because we have someone who cares for us even if no one else does. Who cares for us SO much that He died for us. And wants us to be His.

[@bobjone8039]

As an atheist, your take on youre a star seems like a not so subtle reach to become a preacher. The power of yuor argument completely apart to anyone who isnt christian because the moral teachings of the bible are not relevant to a non christians life. I do agree with the adam and eve comparison because one could reasonably draw the parallel. I was not expecting the bible jumpscare at all.

[@Sikes_76]

*Your

[@pinkdiamond1847]

I think this person would make a brilliant youth pastor. I might have actually taken more interest in Sunday school if the Sunday school teacher was talking about Disney movies and how they apply to the Bible instead of just reading the Bible. But personally I didn't ask for it.

[@ptolemyhenson6838]

The concept of "You're a Star" is supposed to mean all people come from a common source of "stardom," therefore they are intrinsically connected. Not a completely terrible concept for universe lore, but communicated in the worst way possible and not expanded upon AT ALL. I disagree with you that it's immoral to promote alternate philosophy and on the quality of Orion and the Dark.

[@rogerroger9952]

eehhh got preachy. i guess this is a religious channel? good video up until then. (around 17 minutes) wish you all the best, of course, though. just a bit awkward to be telling me i'm made in god's image and stuff when you don't know me or my beliefs or the gods i worship.

[@hlk323]

Hahaha yesssss, I totally felt the same. I loved the video until the religious part. I had to stop the video and laugh for a bit

[@frenchhufflepuffie83]

Uhm, I agree that this movie sucks but I don't think the Christian part was necessary...

[@RennHans]

Agreed

[@cyncir]

was on board with bro until that part

[@rowan5891]

Felt a little awkward when he started preaching lmao. Like I agree that the nihilism of Orion and Wish is bad but the opposite of that isn't Christianity?

[@ItzMuffinzz]

Same it caught me off guard

[@Window4503]

People add in their own beliefs all the time. As a Christian, I hear plenty of New Age or atheistic or secular beliefs when someone discusses media and it hits me just like a talk about Christianity hits you. If you believe in people having an equal voice, then it doesn’t make sense to ask a Christian to de-Christianize themselves for your comfort.

[@GAM3M4ST3R]

17:22help my youth group at my church has infected my fyp with Bible lesons🗿

[@carolinadegennaro666]

OMFG AUBREY FROM OMORI??????!?!!!!!! BIG FAN OF OMORI!!!!1!1!11!!1

[@romanastasia7]

Thank you so much for mentioning Rasputin, a pure evil villain

[@asaleilani1205]

why the random preaching in the middle of the video. im not against religion, i was all for the parallels you were making with adam and eve, but i cannot stand being preached to. didn't ask, don't care, and am now more bitter towards christianity. thanks!

[@ECSOrder66]

... You're not against Christianity, but a Christian tangent made you bitter towards... Christianity? "I didn't want to be preached to." Hey, us Christians don't want to be preached to that our God is a lie. But we aren't bitter towards atheism. You have no excuse, it's literally just you being unable to process the fact that not all of us subscribe to the idea of there being no God.

[@kushagrakumar3952]

​@@ECSOrder66I agree

[@tmtorsmth]

​@@ECSOrder66again, objective review that should have NOT been interrupted with his personal beliefs You guys can live in any world you want to imagine you're in, just don't project it please

[@ECSOrder66]

@tmtorsmth Do you not know the definition of a TANGENT? It's where you go off topic to make a separate point unrelated. You no longer have to be focused on your objective review when you go off the objective topic. As seen in this video, once his tangent was done, he got back to his review, and it remained objective.

[@asaleilani1205]

@ECSOrder66 I have not seen an instance of someone preaching about your God being a lie, nor do I believe that. I'm pagan myself and respect everyone's religion. what I don't do is go around telling people that they should believe what I believe in! thank you for assuming I'm an atheist though lmao

[@doozsromhacks]

17:39 BRO ARE YOU good???????????????????????????????? THE GAY BUBBBLE?? BRO??

[@catelynh1020]

Okay, but as someone who is not religious but has been around christianity, i really don't see it as a genesis parallel. The story in genesis is the "why is the world" and "what makes humans different" that you see in pretty much every religion. It's that the gods fear Man and them having a higher knowledge that only the gods should have must be punished. In genesis, it's the knowledge of good and evil, and god at that moment says if they take from the tree of life they'd "become as us, gods" so they have to be punished. I think it was the greek mythos that had humans obtaining fire. Heck, in moana, maui stole from a god to give to the humans and was punished for it. In wish, asha didn't understand consequences from a rational viewpoint. To her, her grandfather who was 100 years old deserved to have his wish granted. But he's 100 years old. Why would his wish be granted at that point? Magnifico made the kingdom, so unless he's much, *much* older than implied, the kingdom hadn't been around for more than a generation and her grandfather had (assuming a generation is 20 years, he was part of the founding, and 1 wish was granted a month from the founding), he'd have had 240 opportunities to have his wish granted. The wishes we are told were granted in the beginning song are stupid (ie, have long hair), but with the founding of a city you'd want to grant useful wishes first, like for a great tailor and blacksmith and baker before long hair. Her grandfather would have been 80(ish) at the founding of the city and his wish was not immediately useful and was in fact easily able to be something bad because it _was_ vague. Everyone we saw that had a wish granted was working age and had a lot of years left to use their gifts. So that's one thing. The other is that, the moment she's told his wish would not come true, she pivoted immediately to "he's evil" and wanted to have everyone have their wishes, regardless of how useful or even good (as opposed to evil) they are. Her friend that wished to be a knight proved that his wish was not the best since his desire for the title overshadowed his loyalty to his friends and his own ideals. He got the armor, but i don't think he got any training or anything else; just the title and looks. If someone wished to be king, what would happen when that wish is granted? Nobody thinks of the consequences and that's pretty much it. Magnifico is the only one i agree with and they had to make him twist himself into knots and be taken over by evil magic in order for him to be the villain.

[@Window4503]

God didn’t prevent Adam and Eve from the tree of life because he was scared that they’d be gods. They were already as close as possible to being like him in their original state. After they ate the fruit, they brought sin and death on themselves. Death isn’t just losing the body, it’s also the separation of the soul from God. Had they also eaten from the tree of life, they and the rest of humanity would be trapped in that fallen state eternally alive with no escape. He prevented us from a living hell that would start upon birth with an increasingly degrading world that would never be rid of the worst of us because they’d never die either. You consider that evil?

[@StarWarsUnconditionalLover]

What everyone misses is that Asha only wants to get back the wish of her grandfather, and the wish of her mother once Magnifico told her he wouldn’t grant hers either. That was all she wanted, not give back everyone’s wishes. She only comes back to free everyone’s wishes after Magnifico takes away her mother’s wish. And she isn’t wrong to think about that : what’s the point of living here for free if they can’t leave for another land ?

[@albinosquid9871]

I had an epiphany while thinking about this song the other day, which I think helps make it make more sense. The question asked at the beginning of the song “Your a star” is ‘have you ever wondered why you look up at the sky for answers?’ And they actually answer it by saying ‘your a star!’ And it makes sense because as “a star” your looking to your brethren for guidance

[@Mockingdragon]

What fascinates me is positive nihilism, actually. I don't believe there's a higher meaning or plan to life, but that doesn't mean I don't have purpose. It just means it's up to each of us to decide what our lives mean for ourselves. Which makes "You're a star!" even LESS meaningful. It's almost as if the song doesn't WANT me to be able to decide what being a star means. I'm just supposed to stop thinking about it there. I honestly think that's the worst song in the movie for being so pointless, so irrelevant, and so lyrically bad.

[@jjjasperr]

I was with you until you started going religious- if there's nothing after this, then that makes life all the more precious imho 🤷‍♂️

[@Xenephos]

Right? I live with the hope that my actions will make life better for those who come after me. I’m going to spend my life doing positive things and enjoying my own life to its fullest. Sure, it’d be hella nice to poof into eternal paradise when I croak, but I’d rather that be a surprise reward than my only motivation to be a good person.

[@lucia5227]

17:30 what is this guy yapping about wasn't this a disney song review? damn

[@B33_humanpersondudeguy]

Fr 😂

[@memandylov]

I agree with so many of your points, but to say that "we are stardust" is nihilistic is so laughably wrong. The point of the song is that all living things are connected, that we're all made of the same stuff (stardust) and that's meant to explain why we feel so connected to the stars. The song is stupid in a lot of other ways, but it's far from being nihilism, and you can't just throw that label on anything that doesn't align perfectly with your views. Acknowledging that we're all made of the same stuff isnt inherently a nihilistic idea, and they didn't even elude to the implications that fact would have on the meaning of life. If anything, it comes across as naive and overly optimistic. The song insinuates that you're ✨SPECIAL✨ because ✨ yOu'Re A sTaR! ✨ and because of that, I would argue that "we are stardust" is quite the opposite of nihilism. Could you take the message of the song and come to a nihilistic conclusion about it? Absolutely, but you can do that with anything that tries to insinuate that everyone is special, because if everyone in the world is special, nobody really is. That doesn't mean that anything with the message of "you're all special!" is inherently nihilistic. It's a well-meaning but misguided attempt to make people feel good about themselves, and that's all it'll ever be. As someone that is admittedly pretty nihilistic in my personal views, that song reeks to me of a delusional and conpletely unfounded optimism that you will never see from a nihilist. As far as I see it, the idea that you're all special because you're made of starfust is far more similar to your belief that you're special because you were handcrafted in the image of god. Both ideologies center around the thought that everyone is special because you're all connected by a shared origin, whereas nihilism is the belief that nothing and nobody is special, that life is meaningless and there's no point to anything because nothing matters in the grand scheme of things. You can't take a song that was intended to make people believe that they are special and powerful and that their life matters (even if it was admittedly bad at getting that point across) and genuinely tell me that they were being nihilistic

[@ek0dev]

Christianity jumpscare

[@bee1275]

omfg same i clicked off genuienly got annoyed lmfao. You should get this google extenstion I use to permanently block youtubers

[@NN1IKTO]

right dude like its not hard to leave your personal religion out of your videos😭😭 i was all for it and loved this until that! like what it gotta do with how bad the movie is lmao

[@neonrainbow47]

exactly, i came for a objective look at wish's songs, not personal beliefs

[@matjcf8911]

would've been better if he just described the video as a Christian interpretation in the title. Because an objective analysis of the lyrics suddenly turning into "the movie is bad because some songs teach children to reject God" was certainly something

[@watch.th3.k3k13]

It was ok

[@caitlynschwoerer6284]

17:32 they didn't make it religious because not everyone believes in the same thing, like be fr. I was liking this video until you started shoving Christianity down my throat😭🙏

[@polskabalaclava]

Nobody is shoving Christianity down your throat

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

"as a christian" dude, stop putting your religion into everything, that is not why this movie is bad XD

[@misterm7486]

He’s also transphobic and homophobic

[@Czar_Moss]

17:00 ngl that rly threw mw off lmao 25:00 the videos good but the christian stand point kinda drags the video ngl. no issue with christianity but its just not relevant like the movie is bad but it doesnt support evil and nihilism

[@valenxizaw245]

Agree with this. The video was going so well but then he started talking a lot about Christianity, I clicked off the video, I couldn't stand it

[@Czar_Moss]

@@valenxizaw245 idm the Christianity it just distracts from his point and is unnecessary

[@polskabalaclava]

@@valenxizaw245sounds like someone’s upset

[@lovelylizbian]

I was enjoying this look into Wish's soundtrack until the video suddenly veered into Christian elitism. I have nothing against Christians or christianity but I don't appreciate the assumption that all non-christians are nihilists and don't have hope.I also don't appreciate the "you'd be happier if you were gay" part of the video. As a gay woman, nobody is telling ANYBODY this. Acting like gay people have it so well off when that is further from the truth is disrespectful.Also the dismissal of trans people in that same image is also insanely disrespectful. You're not doing a good job chasing away christian stereotypes bro

[@lallaki]

Gay woman?

[@littlewolfyzapling8810]

@lallaki lesbians exist

[@lallaki]

@littlewolfyzapling8810 nope 👀

[@Sparklewolfgirl67]

I don’t think im a star was supposed to be nihilistic. Mostly because Disney was only thinking about how much money Wish would make them instead actually trying to make something with any real meaning

[@TheUnmitigatedDawn]

It's amazing how Hazbin Hotel completely destroyed Disney during their 100th anniversary by giving us the Disney soundtrack we always wanted.

[@M00N_CH1LD]

THIS!!! “Hell is Forever” succeeded where “This is the Thanks I Get” failed. Adam, while also being painted as an arrogant jerk just like Magnifico, is still very obviously a threat when he sings about how much he enjoys extermination, and the shoe drop at the end where he reveals that the time until the next extermination was cut in half before roughly throwing Charlie out of the room. Magnifico’s song is just….a huge joke. The part where he is supposed to become this “huge threat” is obnoxiously shoehorned in before being brushed off again in a matter of seconds. And that’s just one example of how Hazbin outshines Wish in nearly every way possible

[@VelvetteSimp]

Hazbin is better in every way especially with its Music Characters and Animation

[@alexandersean4708]

​@@M00N_CH1LD My choice for a Hazbin song to compare to "This Is The Thanks I Get" is "Stayed Gone." Maybe that's just because I got into Hazbin because of a video comparing Stayed Gone to Thanks, but I feel like drawing that comparison brings a light to the problems with Thanks most easily. One: Intimidation factor. In Thanks, you don't feel intimidated because the music is too upbeat and peppy and the visuals are too well lit and welcoming. Now, upbeat villain songs CAN work, but only in certain situations where either the song itself is still Intimidating or fits the villain or situation (I.E. I Wanna Be Like You from The Jungle Book, Kitsch from Elisabeth, Killer Instinct from Bring It On). Thanks is none of these things. Stayed Gone, on the other hand, has Intimidating visuals and instrumentation, with Voxtech HQ being only illuminated by TV screens and LED strips running across sharks, and Alastor's radio tower being even darker, helped by his Intimidating character design, accompanied by booming notes and slower, more intense rhythms, while still having the fast, frantic majority of the song to show the rapid exchange of insults. Two: clever lyrics. I don't need to explain why the lyrics to Thanks are dumb. On the other hand, Stayed Gone is full of clever wordplay, plot revelations, creative lines, interesting rhyme schemes that could only work with the frantic pace, and character moments. Three: making sense. This one's self explanatory.

[@darbythegamer5152]

I liked this review...until it just turned into bs christian rambling, i didn't click on a video about bad music to hear a Christian tell me why he hates non christian movies

[@ECSOrder66]

That dismissiveness might be your problem there. Discrediting his beliefs as religious BS shows an ego. That you apparently have the CORRECT beliefs that aren't BS.

[@polskabalaclava]

Well that’s a you problem, you don’t like hearing what a Christian thinks so you avoid anything that goes against your beliefs

[@runefactoryappreciator899]

the homophobia was a really weird choice. you can be christian without being hateful-in fact, it’s unchristian to be hateful

[@lovelysartstudio8299]

I finished the video but I didn't catch that part. Can you explain it to me? He didn't really say anything about gay people in Strange World. But he said he wanted the message to be more subtle and not in your face and stated that in comparison to other recent Disney films.

[@NN1IKTO]

@@lovelysartstudio829917:39 the speech bubbles

[@runefactoryappreciator899]

@@lovelysartstudio8299 look at the graphic at 17:38 and read what the word bubbles say. "you'd be happier if you were gay" and "the only reason you feel uncomfortable is because you're the wrong gender" are both statements that imply that lgbt people are pressuring school children into being lgbt. if he didn't feel this way, he could have chosen any other graphic, or he could have not added one at all.

[@MindyB2004]

Or maybe he just didn’t quite read all the messages from the picture he showed from that other movie…

[@maryoraha2637]

facts! like stfu a gay or trans person isn’t taking down your religion we have the right to exist.

[@VelvetteSimp]

I don't get how a indie animation show was 100x better than a multibillion dollar company's 100 year anniversary movie

[@Riley-vy5qm]

The fact I'm not sure which one you mean speaks volumes.

[@victiniplayz3965]

Which one? There's tons of amazing indie shows

[@carolinadegennaro666]

I think he/she's talking about Hazbin Hotel

[@connorshover9572]

I know im late, but I like the idea of nihilism. Well, part of it. Life is meaningless and nothing matters, BUT what you make of it. Believe what you want to, love who your heart wants, have fun, do nothing, do everything, in the end the only people who have to care is you. Your life is yours to do with it as you please. You are a colonial organism of billions of cells all working together to keep you alive as long as they can, built with software of atoms and chemistry that all originated from the heart of a long dead star. You are made from stardust. And I think thats beautiful.

[@PaziPazzo]

I went to read about Nihilism in the middle of this video and it went quite deeper than I expected, but the main sentiment I got out of it (specifically from Nietzsche's philosophy on the matter) is that Nihilism being about the meaningless of everything is only right on the inherent level, and it is our perspectives that we cultivate our own morality and find the meanings of various things in life. Nihilism is also posited as a problem, and what you described is more akin to your resolution to a problem, how you overcome it and carve out your own reasons to live. That to me is very beautiful. The whole 2 hour read honestly isn't enough to do the topic justice, it is far more complex than I expected but I am nonetheless happy to understand something I only had a bit of knowledge about.

[@Sketchyfella182]

Now, firstly, I'll start off by saying that I don't have ANYTHING against Christianity. Now, the video itself was great, but at arouns 17:00 it got kind of strange, and going as far as to say "Life has no meaning without God" (or something similar) was a bit weird, and might be seen as offensive for non-christian, and/or atheist viewers. Plus, it adds little to nothing to the review of 'You're a Star', and just makes it seem like a pessimistic Christian rant. ANDDD the homophobia icked me SO hard that I just clicked off on the spot. Well, I found this video again, wondered why I never watched it fully, and understood seconds after merely clicking it. Again, I don't hate Christianity, I support christians just as much as I support any other human, I just thought that it was incredibly unnecessary. :/

[@Manelneedsaname]

This isn't it. There's viewing something through a religious lense and then there's this. It was pushy and didn't respect and understand other ideas. Specially with that image saying stuff like "you'd be happier if you were gay", it's distastefull and even disgusting

[@Pushpopz]

Finally somebody else is talking about it

[@CrustyMajesty]

Yeah okay thanks, this video is super weird

[@wondaraptor]

Even tho many people as well as me don't believe in god, saying life is meaningless is very insensitive. It may be objective from some "scientific" point but as a creatures with complex emotions we have to go around it with EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE or it's not going to end well for anyone 🤔

[@Window4503]

Logically it can’t be meaningless. If it truly were then we shouldn’t have any notion of meaning nor should we be able to comprehend or debate it in the first place. You can’t create something out of nothing without any aid, including concepts. So creating meaning when it objectively doesn’t exist is like creating an entirely new hue for the visible light spectrum. A universe can’t be truly meaningless if its inhabitants can understand meaning.

[@josephdavis9234]

​@@Window4503Different definition of meaning(less).

[@eatasock4134]

as someone who’s jewish, i don’t understand what the bible or christianity had ANYTHING to do with a disney movie. if you’re gonna make a disney video, try not to cram your beliefs and bad takes into it.

[@ThatCrumblee]

Hey bro, just wanted to say, im christian as well and i like your references to the bible but i recommend gou should also say something like: "even if youre not christian" and then explain from a non Christian standpoint, not exactly another religion, nor atheist, but more like a general way of saying God.

[@StarWarsUnconditionalLover]

12:26 again, no. She only goes to get back her grandfather’s and mother’s wishes. The parallel with Eden’s garden doesn’t hold on when you consider that Magnifico is no god, he is a man. He may have a god complex, but the fact that he is a human makes it so that he is himself tempted by darkness. Again, Asha comes to free the wishes only after Magnifico turns evil BY HIMSELF. Magnifico could just have let Asha and her family go away with their wishes back and still keep everyone else’s wishes safe. This would have been a good compromise. But he didn’t because he turned to this magical book by himself once everyone started questioning him. My point is Asha isn’t the one responsible for the king’s descent into madness.

[@Addahandle-x5f]

I agree that the “magnifico is God” thing doesn’t really hold up, especially since Magnifico is just a man who makes mistakes and has failings. I still like the parallel of Asha and the snake, but saying Magnifico is God just gives me the ick.

[@natsukitamura5100]

Good video, but a bit pushy on the religious stuff at around the halfway mark. Like, I don’t mind you being Christian, but calm down there a bit bucko. And the “At least we have hope” line. 💀

[@JClin-c3c]

y the random shots at gay people... 17:38. And nothing wrong with nihilism and/or atheism.

[@Artsylittlewitch]

how I’d rewrite wish would be that the point of the story is that we all have the power to make our wishes become reality. I’d make magnifico truly evil by having him be a sort of metaphor for Ai and wanting to the easy way, Asha would represent those who are truly passionate in their craft and her grandpa would symbolize a dying art that’s slowly becoming lost. Plus the whole movie could be a metaphor about creating art and telling your story.

[@flivexo]

Lets go, more long form content!!!

[@monedooo]

english is not even my first but the sentence writing is so painfully bad that even i notice it

[@dtaina]

I was loving your video until you started with the evangelizing, which I wouldn't have minded so much if you hadn't used that to jump on how not believing in God means that life has no meaning. Yes, we're stardust, and we don't have a cosmic reason for being here, but it doesn't matter because we decide what life means. Just because we don't believe in God doesn't mean that we don't think life has meaning and that we're just waiting around to die. I couldn't even finish your video, which is a shame because I was really enjoying it for about seventeen minutes.

[@MateoFa08]

He dont said that, film said about it, and he just shared his point of view

[@annsh.6487]

Bro was doing so well and then god showed up

[@opinionatedbacon]

yeah, I knew that would rub some people wrong, but that song rubbed me even MORE wrong, so I had to discuss my thoughts in detail ;)

[@Window4503]

Because people who believe in God can’t express their thoughts with their own worldview? I find it weird that any time someone mentions God, people get upset even thought plenty of other videos are either fully agnostic or even anti-Christian. I watch channels of all sorts of views including ones that are snarky toward Christianity or religion in general, so seeing this sentiment feels like a double standard to me. He’s not even attacking atheism, just nihilism, which is a philosophy, according to his beliefs…just like every other creator.

[@bumbabees]

@@Window4503 christianity has done a LOT of harm. so i think for a lot of people, religion in general is just something that rubs them the wrong way. ive known a lot of people who have some real bad feelings towards it because of their experiences. and its always felt annoying and hypocritical to me personally, though i recognize thats mainly because of how i grew up. i dunno. its a complex subject and im not saying randomly attacking religious people is warranted, thats just my two cents on it. its like politics, i suppose. most people really dont like talking about it.

[@ek0dev]

​@@opinionatedbacon that's fair lol Although personally I didn’t view the "you're a star" line as being nihilistic

[@christionpulliam9870]

@@opinionatedbaconI understand still have to say it feels like a reach as well

[@crimsong8068]

I'd bugs me how underdeveloped Asha actually is. She doesn't even get the baseline of "Making my family proud!" Or "Proving myself." It's just, "I've decided I disagree with the rules, so I'm going to break them despite how that will impact everyone else!" What a great and very moral message... Also, I can't believe how many things they forgot about. Like they mention Magnifico had other apprentices... Uh, what happened to them? And though Asha's mother's wish is of huge importance, we NEVER find out what it was. It's like they drained the color and life from this film... literally.

[@opinionatedbacon]

yeah, the film falls apart if you think about anything for more than a second. Great job Disney, this is just what we wanted :.)

[@moon7shinev150]

I listened to the movie version of At All Cost before seeing the movie so I had no context. I bet you could imagine my confusion when I heard an obvious love song being sung between a grown man and teenage girl

[@B33_humanpersondudeguy]

He looks to be around 30-40 too 😭

[@grookeymon]

0:03 I don't know that because ive never watched wish.. and yet im watching this videos anyways lol

[@jashalu]

22:57 You know what would have given this movie a better plot and promoted Magnifico to a real villain? If Asha managed to convince the town people that by giving their wish to magnifico and losing their memories they basically lost their freedom of choice and just succumbed to a meaningless life where they have no dreams or wishes (since they gave them up to hopefully be fulfilled one day without remembering them anymore). So after she convinced them that it was a bad thing to just give up your wishes instead of working on achieving them yourself (SEE THAT MORAL OF THE STORY RIGHT THERE?) the entire city the starts to protest, demanding back all their wishes from Magnifico (which would render him powerless). Enter his villain song where he declares Martial law, essentially shutting down the city and trapping everyone inside in order to keep everyone’s wishes for himself. There you go: a powerhungry, self-serving villain that takes away freedom of his people and the freedom of choice from them, while still trying to sport a charming facade. It‘s not that hard Disney.

[@IhaveNofriends6969]

Yapptiy yap

[@VFM_of]

I see most of your points, I just think you were a bit too pushy with the Christianity stuff, I don't think it is necessary a problem but it just throws a lot of people off.

[@My-mind_me.]

Its his channel and he can have his viewpoints on it. If people are thrown off then they can toughen up. I say that for anyone who has an issue hearing an opposing viewpoint whether its Christian or not. So many of you are thoroughly opposed to hearing opposite viewpoints especially Christianity.

[@VFM_of]

@My-mind_me. Ok, I don't have a problem with Christianity or any religion. Plus I never said that I did or didn't agree. I just think that it wasn't necessary to involve religion in this discussion, since the movie doesn't have nothing to do with religion.

[@LazEden07]

9:37 , You don’t even HAVE to give your wishes to the king. In Welcome to Rosas, Asha mentions that “you GET to give your wish in a ceremony”. So you’re not even forced. You can just arrive and live in a prosperous kingdom for FREE 😭

[@calliefiletti519]

Bruh, I just realized that King Magnifico is just a worse version of Chris Jericho from WWE

[@ChaseWalker-sq5yi]

As an Atheist, I expected pretty much anything going into this video, except for bacon guy saying that the answer to everything asked in "you're a star" is God. No hate to Christians btw or any religious people for that matter. I may not agree with you, but you can agree with you.

[@H0wCl3ver]

You have to be the only respectable non-Christian in the whole comments section. Thank you for not *YAPPING* about how you’re right, he’s wrong, and how he should change his opinion, and understanding it’s an opinion.

[@deltaphazon4688]

For a mage king and for Disney's 100 year anniversary film, I think they missed a major opportunity to go full mage battle at the end. I get wishes are Disney's thing and you could still do that but imagine for a moment if Magnifico was a wish stealing evil wizard who... I dunno, uses some magic power from people's hopes and wishes or something like that. Asha then becomes a mage herself somehow to fight Magnifico and the final battle is just this epic magic duel where Magnifico summons visages of old Disney villains and Asha counters by using old heroes? Like, Maginifico summons Hades to conjure a massive blast of fire and Asha summons Hercules who smashes right through it. And in the background, you have this massive, epic, orchestral mix of old Disney songs. Have it end with Magnifico turning into Malificent's Dragon form or even Chernabog from Fantasia at the very end and Asha blasting him with the power of everyone's wishes. I dunno. I just thought that would be cool for an anniversary movie.

[@opinionatedbacon]

Good point! I dunno about summoning past Disney villains, but I agree that the finale should have been WAY more epic

[@deltaphazon4688]

@@opinionatedbacon My mind goes to strange places some times. I dunno.

[@windws7137]

I would never guessed that I would get a Wish Biblical analysis from a Bacon Guy

[@opinionatedbacon]

yeah probably not exactly how you expected to spend part of your Monday ;)

[@misterm7486]

I wished I didn’t I was cringing so bad😂

[@georgerichardson7505]

@@opinionatedbacon honestly it was surprising but refreshing. I liked it and it was the sort of comfort that I needed today.

[@wilchimooncake]

Underrated video, unlike Disney's Wish, i loved watching you clown onto a bad kids movie. I wanted to watch it but i just felt it would be a waist of time xD

[@AidenWelch-p2s]

Wish belongs to hell! 😈

[@condolcezza5850]

This movie takes place around the same time as the Hunchback of Notre Dame. With that said, compare the two soundtracks and see HOW FAR GONE Disney has went.

[@georgerichardson7505]

hunchback is my favorite Disney soundtrack

[@SmilingArcticWolf-zb6md]

Bro cant wait for another video hoping you do more long form videos such an underatted video 👍 love it ❤

[@opinionatedbacon]

Thanks a lot!!! Currently working on the next one, hopefully it'll be out before the end of the month ;)

[@KaeMcSpadden]

The other problem with the art and animation is the backgrounds have outlines, so it is hard to tell what the depth is and what is supposed to be close to us or far away.

[@georgerichardson7505]

they should've either done all 2D animation or great 3D animation. It felt like a weird mix