The Harbour Air eBeaver Electric Seaplane | Everything Electric Canada 2024

While at Everything Electric Canada 2024, Sandy was invited by Harbour Air to check out the Beaver they've converted into a fully electric seaplane.
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[@shazam6274]

Nice to watch interviews with people who are competent, know what their talking about, can answer details and are concise. Good job Erika and Shawn!

[@Shontaku]

English much?

[@shazam6274]

@@Shontaku OK, ya got me! Should be: "are competent and know what their talking about, and provide details in a concise manner." Better yet: "are competent, detailed and concise" I knew what I meant and was in a hurry, so no proof reading it. Domo arigato, for catching this. Konbanwa.

[@fullthrottle7985]

Omg really !!?? She doesn’t have a F#%*ing clue !!!!

[@shazam6274]

@@fullthrottle7985 Examples?

[@HarbourAirSeaplanes]

Thank you for stopping by for a visit!

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for having us!

[@jeff119990]

I've been following this since it was announced and it is great to see all the progress. Its gonna be amazing once it is certified and in regular use. And this will only push battery tech forward for longer flights.

[@JoeCool-l7h]

I live nearby and look forward to booking a flight as soon as it is flying!

[@_electricvehicle]

As a Vancouverite, so cool to see this on Munro Live!

[@foreststewart1968]

So impressive to see what the company is doing to navigate the technology & the regulatory process. This peek into their efforts made my day!

[@TonyGrayCanada]

Everybody assumes electric aviation means fancy carbon fiber airframes. I love that these guys are making it work with tough as nails old bush planes.

[@BillericaBunnies]

No they are not.

[@Gerhardium]

@@BillericaBunnies You must be a Joe Rogan fan being such a contrarian without anything to add to a discussion you simply aren't equipped to take part in.

[@MashDaddy]

Thumbs down the Troll 👿

[@MsSomeonenew]

Well it's all about how much you want to carry, if the base plane is lighter then you get to carry more weight per flight, or in turn have more batteries for greater range. An all carbon Beaver could very possibly get to double load capacity.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

of course they dont do long distance flights, composite materials have made modern aircrafts significantly way more efficient

[@abelincoln3261]

As many may know, The Philippians has about 2,000 inhabited islands The Philippines is an archipelago consisting of approximately 7,641 islands. These islands are grouped into three major regions: Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao Interestingly, only about 2,000 of these islands are inhabited... they run a lot of small commuter planes there everyday... imagine the savings in fuel pollution and noise...

[@38whitcomb]

As a retired pilot it's nice the see someone that can speak with a good command and knowledge of the subject

[@lesbendo6363]

Amazing technology! Thanks for sharing Sandy! 🇨🇦

[@carholic-sz3qv]

how exactly is it an amazing technology? its just like evs

[@lesbendo6363]

@@carholic-sz3qv one difference, if it stop working it falls to the ground.

[@1voluntaryist]

For extra safety, a "free wing" (control wing) design would have been better.

[@Dusty0116]

@@carholic-sz3qv Well for one thing, if a EV car's battery fails in use, it just rolls to a stop. In a EV aircraft they don't have that luxury. The reliability requirement's for EV Aircraft certification are a lot higher and more stringent. In the case with Harbour Air they are building a EV Aircraft motor system into an old airframe. Basically abuilding a new motor and battery system to meet the specs of that aircraft. They don't have the luxury of off the shelf motors or battery systems. Each one is unique and the costs are much higher.

[@tonymazelon3400]

Sandy is checking out the beaver

[@IndaloMan]

0:56 Erica smiled when he said the 'B word'....

[@Mrbfgray]

@@IndaloMan She doesn't get as much beaver attention as she craves.

[@ralphrietveld]

Ooh nice beaver.

[@jinpingthebear110]

I doubt this braver is that great.

[@williamscoggin1509]

Don't tell his wife! 🫣

[@krakken-]

So cool to see options like this and the Regent Air Seaplane electrifying flight.

[@davelariviere682]

Wow, this next generation power package is going to be quite the build. VERY EXCITING.

[@Coyotehello]

Terrible decision from Harbour Air to discontinue the route between Vancouver-Salt Spring-Maple Bay. Destroying the communities that have supported Harbour Air for over 30 years is, to stay polite, disappointing. With a 14 day notice. I hope they will reverse that decision. That being said I am hoping to be trying this electric plane as soon as possible!

[@BillericaBunnies]

Ha ha, enjoy having an unscheduled crash landing in this electric plane. They can't compete with liquid fuel powered planes on any metric except for CO2 emissions.

[@dmacpher]

Oh that’s too bad, loved the maple bay route

[@Coyotehello]

@@dmacpher Please consider writing to Harbour Air asking the route not be cancelled. There are entire communities who will suffer from that decision: Hotel, restaurant, marinas, families with relative in Salt Spring and Vancouver. Thank you.

[@CajunGreenMan]

2:50 TBO. Time between overhauls.

[@JoelSapp]

"It was so nice seeing your Beaver"

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

[@stickynorth]

That joke gets old here because it's so common a phrase here... Just you wait till you here about our big Regina!

[@KevinT3141]

​@@stickynorthThe city that rhymes with fun.

[@larrybremer4930]

The Beaver being a bush plane is almost as funny as Viagra being made by Upjohn.

[@JoelSapp]

@@larrybremer4930 hahaha!!

[@PixelBlenders]

One huge huge thing with fuel aircraft is, the massive weight of full is burned off during the flight, thats not happening with batteries. Batteries would have to overcome just too much for aircraft. Also a battery fire would be concerning. Battery powered will never happen when it comes to planes.

[@jerrymcintire7902]

Except it's happening. Efficiency is increasing for both fuel and electric aircraft.

[@jup52]

I really would like to see even a small demonstration and hear the motor running, but still fascinating , battery planes.

[@sandmehlig]

It is a bit far away and thus not optimal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZjPmqyZj6yHopI

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@sandmehlig Also they played music over the takeoff run to avoid tripping ContentID from background music.

[@johnarnold893]

All you have to do is look, there are numerous videos of it.

[@jup52]

@@johnarnold893 I have looked at some, but they are usually from a distance and don't show how the plane feels and sounds inside ( or close to the plane ).

[@andreasnewitsch59]

Nice to see sandy here in Canada!

[@haileyr.s8107]

In reality it flys for 30 minutes with 15 minutes of backup power. What a piece of garage

[@davidelvin1380]

Brain of a dinosaur 🦕

[@felixaudet5860]

This will become more practical as battery tech evolves.

[@tkorte101]

Battery powered aircraft are a spectacularly bad idea. It takes a special kind of stupid to build something like this, one that's no doubt funded by large amounts of taxpayer money.

[@-LightningRod-]

YES !!! i am so Excited to see this,...

[@1voluntaryist]

They were not able to demo at Oshkosh Air Show because the FAA didn't issue them a permit. Another instance of regulatory ineptitude? Why or why do the public put up with it?

[@michaelpaczynski941]

I’ve been following this for years. Hats off to Harbour Air to pursue this dream. I’m left with some questions… How many cycles per year? If operated 10 flights per day at 20 minutes each day with 30 minutes to charge…2000 charge cycles/10 flights per day = 200 days. Looks like the battery gets replaced approximately every 10-18 months depending on usage and remaining tested charge capacity. If so, this explains the need for updates to the supplemental type certificate(STC) as battery technology evolves. Further explains why there isn’t a huge cost saving over combustion fuels, but should be a big saving over sustainable aviation furls. Good thing they are quieter and shift their energy source to hydro. This will be fascinating to see how it pans out. Excellent program.

[@jimmykelly2809]

Sandy asking a lady about her beaver is peak internet

[@AlbertZonneveld]

An electric plane would benefit from low weight but also a sleek profile.

[@egoequus6263]

The certification process is how the government will ensure that these machines never see service outside demos. The regulatory agencies in the US are completely captured by oil interests and legacy aircraft. They will continue to streamline approval for junk like 737-Max, while putting up endless expensive hurdles for anything electric. Hopefully, Canada has better luck and politics.

[@stickynorth]

The future of aviation right there, if only for a few niche applications to start... The Vancouver to Victoria run for example...

[@comment8767]

The future if they can find a breakthrough technology. There is not guarantee that things get better over time. Have coal powerplants gotten better? Gasoline engines? Nuclear reators? Sure, at little bit. But not 100% better ... more like 20%. The laws of physics still apply, even to EVs.

[@ShahryarSaigol]

The problem with electrifying an old plane especially a utility plane like the Beaver is that the plane is heavily built to withstand the vibration and weight of a radial piston engine plus the airframe is overbuilt with a very high service factor to make it more rugged. If an electric plane is designed from the ground up, it will be much lighter and more streamlined, needing much less power to fly and therefore have a longer flight time. Since the wings are not carrying fuel they can be thinner and lighter too.

[@mikegilkey]

It will be so great to see where this goes in the future. Hope Sandy and fly in one

[@tizio5103]

This is very exciting. Perfect application for the short-hop flights in the PNW. I can't wait until we get a lighter battery chemistry that will allow us to slash the battery weight and get truly amazing range out of these things.

[@BillericaBunnies]

No, it is not going to happen, you can't magic any of this into reality, sorry.

[@tizio5103]

@@BillericaBunnies No magic required. We may be many years out, but I am certain we will continue to discover new battery chemistries that have > 1kwh/kg Materials don't have to be heavy to hold a lot of electrons. It's not wishful thinking, it's materials science.

[@markadler8968]

Unless you increase the price of flights several times over and increase the size of your fleet multiple times these will never work. The extended model has 1/10 the range of a gas powered version and has to spend endless hours charging to achieve the same distance.

[@tizio5103]

​@@markadler8968 80mi range is enough for their longest scheduled route out of Seattle. If you require enough juice for a round trip, you can fly from Orcas to any of the island ports and back.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Power density of batteries is still light years away from what plain old gas has. This will be shackled to short routes. Won't fly in places like Alaska.

[@leftcoastcorrie]

Great Video, great interview! Well done! Harbour Air is one of my favourite local companies. Best....Corrie

[@nicholasmurrell7904]

'Nice Beaver!' 'Thanks! I had it stuffed with batteries last year!'

[@Vagabond1209]

Electric MOTOR! Engines have pistons

[@meofnz2320]

Not all engines have pistons!😂 I think you’re right about the difference though: motors convert energy directly to mechanical force, whereas engines convert fuel to energy to mechanical motion. But it’s hard to find an authoritative definition these days and they overlap in some cases.

[@hughwaller6789]

​Tranpprt Canada and mos t likely the FAA insist on "Engine"​@meofnz2320

[@toddfleury7324]

Do motorcycles have pistons? Motorboats?

[@Vagabond1209]

@@toddfleury7324 meofnz2320 is correct. Think of Wankel engines. The engineering perspective is that engines convert exploding or expanding gasses to pressure (energy) to move a mechanical device. Either way, thanks Sandy and the Harbour Air team for this experiment in electric motor propulsion. We will never get to the end goal without taking these steps

[@ParkourBrian]

FORD ENGINE COMPANY doesn’t even understand this!! 😡 makes me so angry I could shit myself. Terrible people and damned straight to hell, the lot of them! 100% agree with you, vagabond

[@andrewashmore8000]

1 hour flying. On full electric that's cool.

[@markadler8968]

Hardly, it is a complete joke. A gas powered version can fly 10 times the distance without refueling and doesn't have to spent literally days charging to go that distance.

[@andrewashmore8000]

@@markadler8968 frankly I thought it would be less than one hour. But 1 hour is useful for alot of small regional flights, so not too bad.

[@markadler8968]

@@andrewashmore8000 But you did not acknowledge the huge amount of time wasted charging. These planes will spend far more time charging than in the air which makes the beyond impractical and nothing more than a novelty

[@andrewashmore8000]

@@markadler8968 yeah , well that's where good design comes in , you know it's possible to swap batteries in seconds in need a super quick turn around. But in the video , the operators talk about charging in 30 mins , and that's about the same time as a turnaround time also.

[@markadler8968]

@@andrewashmore8000 Sure they going to swap batteries on a floating airplane that weigh several hundred if not over a thousand pounds on a dock on the ocean.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣You are hilarious.

[@josephalberta1145]

Electric planes and salt water. What could go wrong?

[@elrolo3711]

Completely useless in the cold anywhere especially winters of Canada.

[@JxH]

Geezuz H. Don't let him near it; he'll take it to pieces !! You'll end up with a pile of parts !!

[@mrkzed709]

Love Sandy talking to such an expert. Great technical details. They are discovering why we love electric cars! Better performance all around (as long as within range):)

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nope they arent! a giant chevy suburban diesel has up to 800 miles of range on standard fuel tanks, litteraly doubling the range is super easy with a replacement bigger fuel tank

[@outbackev-hunter6035]

Gee, that's a surprise tge FAA is slow on approvals, ask Elon!

[@bill6255]

Cool plane, I'd put the batteries in the pontoons. Then they can be easily changed/jettisoned in an emergency.

[@brianb-p6586]

That's why you're not an aeronautical engineer.

[@ranig2848]

If they fly only 20 minutes they should be able or charge 20-80% easy. This should allow for SIGNIFICANTLY longer battery life. 200-300 cycles is very low for today’s batteries

[@MrAdopado]

They referred to 2 to 3 thousand cycles. Aviation will have tighter regulatory limits on battery performance.

[@deepgroove1000]

So cool.. glad Munro come to Vancouver for a visit.

[@mbabcock111]

Is the short-run float plane in secular decline with the advent of eVTOL such as JOBY and ACHR?

[@glike2]

I worked on R-985 and R-1340 one summer in the late 80's. But happy to see progress needed for the climate, and safety.

[@jamesdillon3320]

Great stuff Sandy!! All the best to the amazing "TOMATOE PICKER"!! Greetings from the sandy shores of Lake Huron!! Ontario, Canada!! GIDDYUP!!

[@davidpearn5925]

Maybe 300wh/kg is better than Tesla's 4680 CYLINDRICAL cells. Sandy was a little bit quiet there.

[@MrAdopado]

4680 is something of a side-show and certainly doesn't define Tesla despite the internet hype ... Tesla uses several different cell sizes and non cylindrical form factors and is not tied exclusively to a single one. (A big point being made in the video was 300Wh/kg at the module/pack level ... that's way higher density than 300Wh/kg at the cell level.)

[@tonyguarino3594]

Wow so cool, game changer for short haul flights

[@kisssys5414]

It needs a sound system inside that plays R985 sounds, the best sound of any engine and would give total confidence to the passengers.

[@vvvci]

FANTASTIC! To see the first "real life" EV aircraft be a DeHavilland eBEAVER mod! I've long thought that the Beaver is one of the very top aircraft candidates for a new, carbon-fiber generation _(I believe someone has made something similar in a 4-6 place, also STOL, even more capable, but expensive turbine powered ac)_ - but to see this super versatile, super reliable aircraft be one of the first to be fitted with a production EV battery powered electric motor is great. IF these do work out, go in to production, and prove reliable... then you can bet the AEROSPACE community will jump in, THEN there will be EVEN MORE DRIVERS for those developing the next gen of lightweight, high power, super reliable EV batteries.

[@leoyoung7547]

I remember studying mediation at the school beside Balwf's monstrosity. Sometimes, when the wind was just right, they would warm up and take off from right outside the school. The fumes were the stuff of nightmares. So toxic. I am so happy that they are going electric - the first company in the world to start the process. So, I am quite proud of them.

[@brainworthy]

Erika Holtz is very knowledgeable and it was interesting to hear her explain the details of going electric. Watching the float planes in Coal Harbour in Vancouver take off and land is fascinating to observe. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Well done.

[@titussteenhuisen8864]

Thank you the world needs this development

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🙋‍♂️THANKS SANDY,ERIKA ,SHAWN AND MUNRO ,FOR THE UPDATE 😎🔋🔋🔋

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

So no passengers?

[@brianb-p6586]

In this first conversion (registration C-FJOS), there is no space or weight capacity for passengers; it is only used for testing and working on regulatory approval for the electric motor and controller. The second conversion is being built. It uses a different motor from the same supplier (to meet regulatory requirements) and will have a different battery that is closer to practical usefulness. It is expected to fly by the end of 2024.

[@flwi]

Soo cool! All the best with the certifications! I've seen those yellow planes live from an AirBnB we stayed in when we had our road trip through Canada. Such a beautiful place.

[@MikeKisil]

No end in sight for beaver impressive men and woman and their flying machines what can be done .

[@williamcrowley5506]

The haters really don’t get it, this whole thing is pretty damn exciting. Ice vehicles are horribly inefficient, the engineers and all involved are driving energy efficiency and capacity. The next 10 years are going to be fascinating

[@bozosplayhouse]

I wouldn't call them "haters" as maybe a few have been around aviation for a while.. that said, I would consider them as being merely cautious. My father was a bush pilot from the early 70's in the arctic and northern Canada.. Beavers and otters were a mainstay in every operation of your day. Now if you could ask one of those pilots if they would replace it with an electric one, you would lose the conversation hands down. They know these aircraft and what they're capable of like a slide rule and a bag of books.. contingency plans and operational safety are welded into their operation as a "safe" aircraft.. nothing spared! Replace their near 500Nm range power plant with an iffy at best bomb in the back seat that requires esoteric care and temperature management and flies for a small fraction of the IC engine's time.. where are the margins for contingency or just a bad day?.. a 10 minute reserve?.. 5 minutes? That may work for a trip out to the spit and back. Then there's the new CARS amendments for this technology that are still being written and not to mention STCs before it ever goes into regular commercial passenger service. I've seen that some of this has been "fast tracked" because it's a new technology and the BC government wants the feather in their cap for their green initiative. This being called a perfect fit by Harbor Air has it's questions.. I've flown to victoria many times on floats from the YVR float base, some days it's nice, but most it's not so nice.. and to be quite honest, having a full tank of fuel is a piece of mind.. even in a 60 year old cessna. What about an "emergency" situation? Li-ion technology really doesn't like water, especially salt water and prone to violently erupt if they meet. So landing on water is inherently a dangerous task in itself.. flip the bird or tear open a float and your ultimate failure point has been attained.. a Lithium battery fire that won't go out, a haze of heavy toxic smoke that bubbles to the surface for hours if not days. A tank of avgas or kerosene just doesn't have the same urgency or peril. Your EV starts puffing a bit of smoke and you can just pull over and let it cook off.. a flight battery maintains flight and without it, you cease to fly.. after that point there will be a battery fire in the water and your raft has burst into a chemical fire. Harbor Air is a landmark along the river on the south terminal of YVR, I've flown with them several times over the years and probably will not try their electric service until there's significant improvement in the technology.. call me paranoid or a 'hater', but some would call me cautious. The waters of the pacific northwest eventually took my father and others I've known over the years in various aviation accidents, every one of them 100% avoidable.

[@williamcrowley5506]

@@bozosplayhouse I am talking about the electrification haters. The ones whining about renewable energy and electric vehicles

[@bradkubota6968]

You mean "the haters" sorry realists the KNOW electrification CANNOT happen as there is not enough COPPER. The isn't. Stop pretending there is. We have long since exhausted the high grade and easy to get to copper ore bodies. The remaining ones are at 14,000 ft or remote and often pristine locations. Some are in countries in Africa being corrupted by China to secure. There is no substitute for copper. Future demand is near TRIPLE of projected supply. Just EVs will more than double the power GRID needed. That's all COPPER. Everywhere you see a transformer you will need another big can of copper. B.C. dark rainy and mountainous is totally unsuitable for efficient wind and solar. The pristine river valleys are pretty much all dammed. So where are you putting the Nuclear plants? Better get on that. Now add in home heating by electricity. Delusional. Won't happen.

[@billhanna2148]

Also aviation gas is STILL leaded gas and has been since the 50's and removing it should be a priority.

[@williamcrowley5506]

@@billhanna2148 it makes me scratch my head why people would want to cling to gasoline when it is toxic, and requires a whole ecosystem of other toxic crap to help turn it into motion. How have we grown to hate m innovation so much that we would harm our lives to cling to an arbitrary thing

[@feandil666]

Respect to the lady for delivering her full spiel very efficiently while not being annoying. Exciting actually.

[@JillesvanGurp]

Those batteries are a big deal. This is a relatively big/heavy airplane with a 70 year old design. It's going to be interesting to see what people do with other old airplanes. There are a lot of decades old planes still flying that could be upgraded like this. This beaver apparently has has 200kwh. With the new battery, they'd push that to 300kwh. That's a lot of energy. And of course new planes can be made a lot lighter and better optimized for battery placement. It's interesting that it's not just the weight that matters here but the center of gravity. There's only so much volume available for batteries in these old planes. A more optimized design would not have that issue. For reference, a really light electrical plane like the pipistrel velis electro is flying with only a 24kwh battery. Kind of comparable to what the Nissan Leaf shipped with and probably not a lot better in energy density. That plane entered the certification process sometime last decade. You could probably cram 60-70kwh in there with these 300 wh/kg cells. That would probably more than triple the range (you only take off once at 100% power, the rest is cruise). Probably the sweet spot is when you start getting 2-3 hours of range in something like a Cessna 172. That is starting to look doable. There are a lot of experimental planes in the US that could upgrade with relatively little hassle from the FAA too. IMHO this is going to revolutionize general aviation in the next ten years. The other interesting thing that was mentioned is the cycle times of these batteries. 2000-3000 cycles is not a lot these days. There are better batteries available. And not having to swap them out as often is going to matter for cost. And of course batteries are getting cheaper too. Solid state is going to be a big deal for electrical aviation. And push things closer to 1kwh/kg densities eventually. Possibly higher even.

[@TekNullOG]

Crazy coincidence. Took my first Harbour Air flight today. So cool to see how they’re investing in battery electric motors.

[@deltaskyhawk]

Just enough range to get from Vancouver to Vancouver Island one time! lol Could have done a turboprop configuration.

[@dmack1827]

Besides Vancouver-Naniamo, where is an 87 km range going to get you? What is the turn time on battery charges?

[@pathfollower]

Cool plane, but very use specific. It's not an ideal EV Plane. That's a lot of drag with pontoons and struts everywhere. Wonder who battery people are? CATL has their new aviation battery going into flight testing. Claims of potential coast to coast US flights. That's a lot different than this 30 minute flight time. Don't know the pack level wh/kilogram on those batteries but might help this plane.

[@JoelSapp]

The cycle time quoted sounded more like a non-nickel chemistry, the pack weight sounds like a nickel chemistry.

[@pathfollower]

@@JoelSapp Another thought occurred. Perhaps I missed it. Was that 30 minutes total or 30 minutes each way for one hour round trip? A 15-minute flight into the bush isn't far. Where/how do you recharge in the bush? The magic number goal for aviation grade batteries has always been 500 wh/kg. This plane desperately needs that.

[@JoelSapp]

​@@pathfollower 1:35 - 60 minute range and hoping for 30 minute charging. 13:55 they said they do a lot of 20 minute flights. Its niche but I know someone that does trainers and these electrics could be amazing for them - which a lot of folks do. But still seems like Elon was correct that they need to get to 500 wh/kg to get medium haul flights.

[@BillericaBunnies]

There is no "ideal EV plane" you are smoking crack if you think battery technology can provide storage densities on par with liquid fuels.

[@waynerussell6401]

@@pathfollower Pipistrel Velis Electro is already revolutionizing flight training in clubs, flight schools and trialing with the RAF. With 50 minutes flight time and a 20 min reserve for local flying (EASA certification), and one hour recharge, it fits the bill for instructor/pupil roles at a fraction of the price of ICE training.

[@treynolds94]

How do you measure the battery dagradation over years of flying and environmental changes. Flying 86 kms max depending on weather winds ect. at 100% maybe okay for a couple years but how do you know when 100% is no longer getting you as far when you crash.

[@dalel3608]

MagniX is also working with NASA on their multi-engine eTransport; so hopefully they'll be able to certify a few different motors and battery packs to choose from for aviation.

[@warrengee-f9l]

Old school Beaver fan .....love what you are doing

[@mpoulter54]

I think this is valuable from a research standpoint. They are sure depending on a lot of technology improvements by 2027. May make sense in some limited markets. For widespread use, still a lot of work to do to make this economical and practical.

[@douglasatkinson2476]

Nice to Vancouver as your back drop. I really enjoy your talk talks Sandy.

[@nathanbanks2354]

Neat. Was wondering when I'll be able to take an electric flight to Nanaimo.

[@tazeat]

Been following this project for a while now, fascinating to see what's going on just a few hours north of me.

[@misterx280]

The hair ebeaver

[@davefroman4700]

With how far battery recycling has come today? I can foresee a time in the very near future where the cost of purchasing the new battery will be weighed against the material value of the old battery you are trading in. Think of it like a core charge on your alternator or water pump today, only much more valuable. Its already cheaper to recycle and reclaim materials in batteries today, than it is to mine, ship and refine new materials.

[@swecreations]

With time cycle life will continue increasing so operating cost will go down.

[@duncanjames914]

I love this! It's the ideal aircraft for electrification given its STOL capabilities and intended usage. This is the future.

[@BillericaBunnies]

No it is not.

[@ButterfatFarms]

@@duncanjames914 no it's not the ideal airplane for an EV is one that's designed from the get-go to be an ev. Retrofitting something like this is always going to be a half-ass solution that's less than ideal for many reasons.

[@markadler8968]

130 km range is basically nothing and that is on the extended model in ideal conditions. Not to mention this plane will spend far more time charging than in the air. This is nothing but a gimmick with a fancy paint job.

[@BruceBusby]

​@@markadler8968Exactly!

[@AlbertZonneveld]

@@markadler8968 There are many short haul targets you could cover with short haul ePlanes. Think of coastal islands that often have regular or even irregular services. Installing a battery and solar panel on those islands could makes charging to extend the range easy. Not sure a seaplanes is the best option as it does not seem to be a very energy efficient plane

[@DouglasJMark]

Awesome video! Thank you very much. Oh dear, not another FAA story?😭😭😭

[@yorkchris10]

BC is hydrogening again. CPKC railway has a freight locomotive demonstrator in the Kootenays.

[@JimLambrick]

And Edison Motors with their hybrid logging truck in Merritt

[@ryuuguu01]

I have used Harbour Air, and I hope I can ride on one in a few years.

[@mikegdanner]

Better call Forge Nano for 300+ Watt hour/Kg batteries with high cycle life

[@bdjm8595]

I would point out that unlike fuel, batteries weigh the same when they are dead........

[@jamesphillips2285]

I think ultimately long-haul aviation is going to have to go to carbon neutral synfuel to decarbonize. But it will be expensive enough that it makes sense to electrify short-haul.

[@solartime8983]

Yes, but current 200+ Watt-hours batteries in this converted eBeaver get 300 lbs. More Thrust at Same Power setting. (than old turboprop version) Since batt. weight limits payload & range now...the higher Energy storage density (300 & 400 Watt-hours/kg in development at same or less weight) will make battery weight irrelevant...and will make 6-7#/gal. Jet fuel too expensive/ flight hour.🤓

[@mike5695]

Really wanted to hear it running next to an internal combustion engine one to compare the difference.

[@WardenClyff]

Literally no such thing as an electric engine, LOL

[@869Dansky]

Nice idea and prototype but we’re not technologically ready to have those batteries on an aircraft. The beaver is an amazing aircraft. If when you have the batteries go thermal runaway and catch fire you won’t have time to get out safely without burning or the fumes killing you. We’re not ready. I would be scared to be in one. Also the short fly time is not practical. I would also be afraid to the total pollution created manufacturing and disposal of the batteries. Amazing idea though.

[@jerrymcintire7902]

Amazing idea but you can't see it succeeding despite the fact that competent engineers and entire companies are making it happen? Any plane can catch on fire, that's why you have systems to prevent it. They know what flight time they require, and are happy the electric power can provide it. Finally, the pollution is much less, especially in B.C. where most of the power is from hydro. I sincerely hope you overcome your fears and get to enjoy an electric-powered flight in 2027.

[@jairokg]

Cut!!! Lunch time

[@lewispaine4589]

It'll be even better when solid state batteries come into use.

[@CyberTankMan]

👍

[@MichaelHBallard]

Interesting. Great to hear how much more efficient things are coming down the battery tech pipeline.

[@MFWebPea2935]

Complimentary stick of Doublemint gum in gift bag

[@FlintStone-c3s]

The de Havilland Beaver, the aircraft that refuses to die.

[@Subie-Driver]

Sandy likes to drive and ride in electric vehicles….why not this one?

[@kevin_6217]

1216lb is not "just over a ton", it's just over HALF of a ton. Six 202lb passengers and that's it. Not clear if that INCLUDES crew... It's almost surprising how incredibly stupid Sandy can be sometimes.

[@jerrymcintire7902]

One mistake does not equal stupidity. Quit showing your lack of appreciation in public.

[@aaronpops4108]

All that money for an 82km range. crazy.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Sacrilege! The OG Wasp is timeless (and has much better range FWIW), and a million times better sounding.

[@brianb-p6586]

On that basis, turbine conversions are also "sacrilege"... and they are very common. Most if not all of Harbour Air's Otters are converted.

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Tell us about your beaver....

[@ВладимирКозлов-д8щ]

The range is still short, but technology is developing very quickly. So soon all these current Boeings will have to give way to electric planes. Let's wish good luck to these pioneers!

[@joeperrone6677]

That is a very long way off - seeing as a gas powered Beaver has a five hour flight range (780 miles) and these electrics are at 30 minutes (roughly 50 miles), it might take some time to scale up to a Boeing 777-300 ER (8,900 miles - 16 hours plus reserve). They are cool and will have a use; but unlike cars, you just can't stop every 2 hours while crossing an ocean to top off your plane at a Tesla supercharger.

[@BillericaBunnies]

No it will not.

[@ButterfatFarms]

"so soon" no 😂

[@markadler8968]

You are delusional if you think this will happen in your lifetime. These planes have maybe 20% of the range and tremendous amount of time has to be wasted charging them. This is nothing more than a model with a fancy paint job.

[@FB-gm6el]

​@@markadler8968 regarding "time wasted charging" batteres...spent battery pack modules could be swapped out on the ground for fresh ones in seconds, much faster than refueling. do you think hobbyists flying radio controlled airplanes fly once, then wait around at the field for 90 minutes while they recharge the battery? no. they bring multiple fresh batteries with them.

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

Do yeahs know of any electric boat

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

For like commercial fishing

[@jenkinseric2]

there was an electric boat, maybe chris craft and outboard motors up to about 70hp.

[@MrAdopado]

It looks like you have access to KZbin ... try the search and look at a few hundred examples.

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

@@MrAdopado there is one fella in PEI that is building new EV boats for lobster fishers but it's a cbc article

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

@@jenkinseric2 yea I saw some outboards but I'm looking for onboard set-ups as I don't wanna be getting tangled up in drift seaweed er ropes (ie my own fishing gear)

[@CristianEnacheRealtor]

Can't wait to buy one. A boat EV too. Why?

[@McCanicScot420]

Canada, leading the world in aviation.

[@marcschouten3527]

Canadian beavers are the best beavers!

[@G11713]

This platform will only get better due to cheaper electricity from renewables, battery recycling, improved batteries, better props utilizing electric motor torque, etc. ICE is a dead-end.

[@gregfredericks5201]

Electric motor not engine.

[@michaelbartell1166]

❤ wonderful thanks😊

[@cascade5682]

I'd like to see a Taxi-Takeoff tug that positions the eBeaver for takeoff through V1 where it then drops away and returns itself to the FBO's charger. The eBeaver will have increased flight time as a result.

[@charlesmarsh9608]

Good luck