Muscle Growth Science | Lee Haney & Dr. “Squat” Hatfield

[@glennhankins6927]

"Stimulate, don't annihilate." - Lee Haney When an 8 time Mr. Olympia gives advice, I take it.

[@entitiessoul]

I couldn't care who says it. If it works for me it works me. That's what you need to understand OP.

[@IvanM272]

@@entitiessoul nobody needs to understand what the great Matta A has to say. This is just a good advice from a good and proved source. Very few people have the credentials to even give advice on fitness like Haney have.

[@entitiessoul]

@@IvanM272 As I said again, I do not care what anyone says or does great "Ivan ponyback my "idols". Whatever they do I must do. I stated that it doesn't matter who it is. If it works for me it works for me. Not of everything Haney said works for me but some does. Btw, don't think everyone wants to be famous or in better terms idolized. Some just like the look and enjoy their lives the way it is. Also, I am very content with how I look and I'll even piss you off even more idol worshipper. I wouldn't want any other physique but mine. Maybe one day I'll compete or show myself to the toxic fitness industry. 28 inch shoulders and a 30 inch waist with a vacuum and that isn't even my diced. Real life photoshop exists. Goodbye.

[@NPColoured]

😂😂 look at these 40inch Pythooooons!! 😂😂

[@hamishh3865]

@@entitiessoul no

[@RichardsWorld]

As Dorian Yates has said, Lee is a true Southern Gentleman.

[@habbaticchio2468]

He’s a legend

[@92pittsburgsteelers]

Good dude never negative about anybody

[@Daniel-mb5vp]

One of my favourite bb

[@jollyrancher1374]

2 legends.

[@zardoz7900]

By the time he was 31 he retired with 8MrOlympia. Ronnie Coleman's first mr. O was at 34.

[@deancrisp3596]

The fact he has no health issues or injuries he clearly done it right 👍

[@JohnBowl14690]

Exactly. Lee would always say, "Don't lift that way. You're lifting like an amateur". I used to laugh, but I knew Lee had done his homework on doing things the right way.

[@larrywang9537]

Lee is very humble and knowledgeable. Even in powerlifting, his point is practical. Safe weight, effective number of set, reps and frequency are all helpful for muscle growth and strength growth. You can always trust the person who won Mr. Olympia 8 times！

[@pinkyellowblue007]

He never got hurt like Yates and won more Olympias, never went to extremes in diet and still looked and was bigger and better than anyone else at the time.

[@sardonyxcorporation]

@@pinkyellowblue007 Yes, but times change. Dorian would have beaten Lee if he didn't retire when he did. Lee was lucky to have competed in the healthier, more aesthetic era of bodybuilding. Lee was my idol, for lack of a better word when I was entering the bodybuilding lifestyle. Great advocate for the sport.

[@atiphwyne5609]

@Sardonyx Corporation Had Lee indulged in Winstrol and HGH and used his system of training versus the high intensity of Dorian I reckon not. I think Lee who was 254 in his last Olympia would have gotten just as big but with more aesthetics than Dorian thereby beating him every time.

[@djo-dji6018]

Well, in Easter Europe strength athletes have been training with that philosophy for decades. Personally, I achieved my best results in terms of size and strength while working with two Kazakh trainers - one of them was a powerlifter, about 5'10 (178cm), 190lbs (85kg), I saw him bench press 420lbs (190kg) for 5 reps for several sets with perfectly controlled form.

[@MrCobi63]

​@@atiphwyne5609Dorian bringing insulin in bb and this is new era.Difrent level.

[@douglasvieira1824]

I'm here at 45 because got injured by lack of knowledge. My shoulders hurt about 11 months, my knees hurt. Finally I'll try Lee's method. May God bless Lee and his family and help me to recover and grow again.

[@jimcarson2977]

I had severe knee pain from squats and front lunges .... I stopped squatting for a while . I only did high reps on leg press and leg extensions for like 4 months ...I don't have any pain anymore ... I am back squatting now but I always do high reps on leg extensions first before I squat .... The main reason I had knee issue is I was not warming up my quads on the leg exntension machine ...Warming up meaning doing 30 reps per set ( 10 reps outer, inner and straight ) ...Try that It may help you ...Is quatted for too many years since 1993 .. Sometimes you gotta step back to move forward ... Give your joints some rest to get back on track .

[@thehomefront1905]

Lee is the epitome of class.

[@gharte1808]

Lee Haney one of the best Mr Olympia's of All-Time.

[@Maya-xs9xn]

Holyfield had an incredible compact physique. He had the bodybuilding signature in a strong powerful body of a boxer.

[@ericjablonski8838]

Lee has always given sound advice that can be used by a regular guy. You do not have to be a genetically gifted, over-juiced mass-monster to benefit from Lee's experiences. Thank you, Mr. Haney !

[@michaelclifford6468]

Lee was a genetically gifted juiced up mass monster

[@shanuv12]

Look his focus on being injury free. That's how one should train. Great interview

[@ebbanjenkins5960]

Love Haney and Holyfield..a team made in heaven

[@roxannefraser1388]

Mind blowing interview and advice. My most powerful take aways: take notes, partner with wiser folks, set goals and work towards them, believe that you can, and most importantly stick to and don't deviate from Plan A. This was truly great!

[@christopherdranias6217]

Legend! What a gentleman, great for the sport.

[@Himothy704]

The real GOAT. Longevity personified.

[@PaschaYou7ube]

My childhood hero and still is! One comment tho; you DO grow from the negatives - gymnasts are the perfect example of it. They don't lift (curl, etc.) like a bodybuilder, and look at their biceps..

[@morecharacterswithamix9067]

Yep, slowing negatives actually help prevent injury along with building muscle. When you slow negatives it becomes harder to use the same weight. So you are forced to use a bit lesser weight to get close to failure for same reps.

[@DateandElevate-ju7lj]

Gymnasts imo are a bad example. People forget gymnasts are actually tiny compared to how strong they are. They do freaking maltese. They generate like triple the force a top natural bodybuilder can. Don’t get me wrong many look great. But the level of intensity in their training and strength are both so high that their training is SUPER inefficient for big biceps. Chen Yibling for example one of the goats. He looks great. Training 6 hours a day for decades elite genetics. Bodybuilding hard for two years for 6 hours a WEEK and guys with merely decent generics could look similar.

[@setharora521]

What a legend, pure wisdom right there.

[@philipevans576]

Best in BODYBUILDING period. Representative/ Passion/Teacher/& GOAT!

[@marksullivan1736]

Lee Haney had what he called the instinct principle training program back in the the day and I still use it today.

[@hotrod490]

Great interview. I mimicked his workouts back in the day. The best physique in bodybuilding 💪🏾

[@Obnoxious_Dad]

Very intelligent with so much knowledge and experience. Respect and blessings 💪🏾🇺🇲

[@firstnamelastname3558]

Haney is the GOAT to this day.

[@Phil5150Bower]

Lee Haney always a classy gentleman.

[@drewzcutz1]

Thank you for this video. Lee is a big inspo

[@pcj8029]

This is a great interview. I really learned a lot listening to Lee Haney. Wonderful.

[@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΣΤΑΣΙΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

What a guy!!the best Mr Olympia

[@NAVEENCHAURASIYAA]

Train to stimulate not to annihilate

[@RJ-is9ko]

One of the... top smartest bodybuilders.

[@frankhanson9260]

it's such a joy listening to Mr. Haney talk about the Science of bodybuilding. It's amazing how he can control the growth of his muscles and stay injury free...🙂

[@zacharyoverlien6050]

I used to disagree with some of his methods ie. Not doing negatives. Once i learned about Fred Hatfield and CAT or dynamic effort method its balistic and explosive. Its about the speed of the lift. So youre stimulating your fast twitch without taxing your joints. Its a controlled negative but not super slow and the weight has to be moderate in order to have the rep speed be fast. Its actually a genius method that works great for powerlifters but he used it for bodybuilding.

[@themuscleministry4398]

Lee Haney is a legend 💪🏿Great video‼️💪🏿

[@pawlucutajar6147]

Great lee haney , the worlds he said is gold . Thanks 😊

[@alexbayani8376]

Lee we love you gentleman and wish a long happy life for you who are useful for other people

[@bharatlaw]

Speaks slowly, clearly and to the point.

[@TheWarpgang]

It’s so nice to listen to Lee explaining things

[@SmoothLife.]

Very articulate and masculine.

[@anupammahato1]

He is indeed a Legend.

[@ggtjr4]

I could listen to Mr. Haney all day

[@justvibing2497]

7:05 such gems. Great interviewer. 13:25 thank you cuz you got dr.mike and others saying to that nonsense lol

[@metal-lm6ue]

I like that he has a personal base line and healthy limit yet he knows when he exceeds it as to limit catastrophic injury depending upon his ability and workout

[@williamlawlor7445]

You have to hand it to Lee haney. Multiple Mr O and still looks great and healthy. We all know he's smart, has real good genetics and only competed mostly in the Mr O in his prime but still. Not many can reach the top of bodybuilding and come out of it in one piece.

[@Andrew-cc4vk]

Extremely valuable insights from one of the greatest to ever do it.

[@RealAmericanPatriot76]

This man is the best period

[@richardbranson8658]

I could of listened for hours

[@Yabbadabbadooskiii]

Thank you Lee Haney

[@miker5233]

The best bodybuilder Mr Olympia person man of God

[@toreandrejenssen9045]

What Mr. Haney says makes totally sense and i agree 💯 more so. It works💪

[@barryhowell8992]

Some of us use the gym as a "mental exfoliation", which is why we work out 2 hours per session. It's actually very HEALTHY to do that. You build endurance, mental fortitude, and some of us are genetically built for it. I personally know the EXACT time my body has had enough because it lets me know. Any "quitting" before that makes me feel like I've cheated myself and gotten lazy. I'm gifted with natural cut and lean muscle, so there's no need for cardio, especially with my physical day job. But I spent 2-2 1/2 hours at the gym each session because my body loves being there. I've never tried gear, never will, but people have asked me what I'm on because I'm 51 but in much better shape than guys half my age. Some of us just have minds and bodies that belong in the gym for 2 hours or more.

[@plantbasedchef7569]

Yes also slow movements while lifting and working in the negative definitely stimulates and builds muscle.

[@farhanhussain_]

What type and style of training sessions you do? I mean, do you take longer rest periods between sets and exercises? Do you like high volume? How hard you like to push on scale of 1-10? How many days you train per week? And other such stuff. Thanx.

[@TOOL-22]

This man has been to the top of the mountain he's an Everest 🗻 of the Bodybuilding industry. Of course genetics play a huge roll in things bit Mr. Haney's knowledge of everything else will certainly help others who want better results.

[@pratiksengupta3534]

Such a great orator, Lee Haney, all time great.

[@everetto.261]

Hmmm, I am not so sure I agree with his view on eccentric component (negatives) of lifting. He knows his stuff so I will have to look a little deeper but my current understanding of the benefits of the accentuating the eccentric is the opposite of his, that is to say, it greatly induces growth and tendon/ligament strength. I saw a few other comments expressing my sentiments but someone else with a different take on mine please hop in and give me some feedback, meaning, am I missing something here?

[@salj.5459]

Eccentrics and isometrics are great for working the tendons. So yes, that's the one thing he is wrong about. HOWEVER, if you are doing heavy eccentrics with a weight you are ready to handle yet (egolifting), that is when tendon tears are most likely to occur. Eg. preacher curls

[@Innovativephysiquedevelopment]

eccentrics are beneficial for creating serial hypertrophy and tends to put on muscle distally

[@baylorbaylor2401]

The guru has spoken... 🎤 listen n learn

[@fastingfrugivore]

Lee is the GOAT

[@davidnorton2473]

Lee is the greatest

[@SalVios-l1l]

This man is amazing and true champion

[@donjohnson7550]

Guess I’m subscribed, after the Zane interview and now discovering there’s an interview with Haney, well, new subscriber right here!

[@willowwale2000]

Lee looks great,a real gentleman

[@sofumba]

'Total 'Lee' Awesome' Haney-THE GOAT!!!

[@jmrgaston6249]

What a wonderful interview, very informative! I love that mix of knowledge and common sense

[@greveeen]

This guy got the longevity genes you can tell, He looks way younger than he is

[@salj.5459]

Mostly diet

[@JohnBowl14690]

@@salj.5459 Yep. The old formula. Diet and exercise. Seems to be the answer for 90% of all heath issues.

[@Maximum_Natural_Muscle]

Thanks Lee for your speading your wisdom

[@danielhopkins296]

He is a very likeable fellow

[@exploringwithbellanoche1286]

Jay Cutler said he never bench press using the pole, he only uses dumbbells. This the 3rd time a bodybuilder talk against using the pole for bench pressing

[@JohnBowl14690]

For isolating the chest muscle, I agree. But I still use the pole anyway. It's a bit more practical for me.

[@Alihasan.2023]

A lot of wisdom on bodybuilding.

[@martinthemillwright]

One basic thing about the traditional African American diet, that is not widely known to rest of the world, is the importance of vegetables and greens. Yes the meat is there, and quite a bit of healthy starches and fibre also. That is a big reason behind how so many “country strong” athletes emerge out of rural America and the South. The fuel into the machine is very high energy.

[@nemanja6037]

I need to put those quotes on the wall. Thanks for educational information very much

[@brianpistolwhip]

Man I want to learn his program.

[@taomahNEGEV]

Both Lee Haney and Dorian Yates are such a please to listen to. However, with all due respect Lee Haney is wrong about " You are not gonna get any growth from a negative". It is proven that negatives stimulate both muscle strength and size growth.

[@Иванов-в5ш]

Он просто боялся травмироваться, ведь с негативами нужен огромный вес.

[@D.Appeltofft]

..plus, you don't have to increase the load as frequently. As we get older I think it makes sense to stay with the same load until we exhausted all possibilities to make every rep harder.

[@taomahNEGEV]

@@D.Appeltofft Agree 100%

[@AaronHooper-ij5px]

He is wrong about the negatives there 3 parts of a lift and doing negatives when you failed on the positive can make you go beyond failure, om more for the Dorian principle, mike, Jones but he is right abouts calves

[@saintlouis1087]

Lee and Robby Robinson are the goats

[@nutznchocolates56]

Pre Exhaust!!! The key 🗝️

[@TruthTriumphs777]

I wish I knew his training philosophy earlier. I wasted years doing one body part and my knees and back ate wrecked

[@bryanfrombuffalo7685]

They gave Evander the clear

[@fredgardner2870]

Big dr squat fan

[@TheKinetic]

I never go slow... two minutes later: nice and slow :DDDD

[@rjagger1395]

What great interview,,,

[@TbXL]

"You're not gonna get any growth from a negative" Let the sports-scientists roll in the comments on this one 😄

[@johnyoung5589]

Would like to know what the pros favorite foods are most effective for muscle growth, ie; lean beef, chicken, salmon, etc... How many grams of protein in a day? What about salt...

[@nicolaiecristea486]

Good explanations!

[@jeanpaulalmeida]

The best 💯 Mr. Olympia ever to exist! 💪🏻☺️👍🏻 🇸🇪

[@brucejensen3081]

I get it, but training 8 times in 5 days, all the cooking, eating. You wouldnt have enough time to scratch your arse. A period of doing this would be good

[@salj.5459]

It's good if you are a professional bodybuilder. For a college student or average 9-5 guy, not so much.

[@adamd8424]

I love this guy, but no growth from the negative? There's evidence now that the negative is potentially even more powerful for hypertrophy. At least as good as the concentric.

[@stevendan9878]

But yates said the negative is more important and always slow down so two competing ideeas i guess😃

[@thehomefront1905]

Yes he did, so that tells us there's more than one way to get there, it's what works for you and how much you personally believe it to be right.

[@Jag-bm8od]

But they both stress controlled negative 👍

[@themiguelmartinezjuarez]

Keep it controlled. They are not too far from each other. Not slow but not fast, Keep it moderate speed.

[@KHLB516]

Is this the guy that got Evander on the gas? Holyfield got juiced heavy to go to heavyweight from cruiserweight and was as dirty as any boxer ever

[@michaelclifford6468]

Probably

[@stevejamieson8468]

He looked like he easily could have stepped on a bodybuilding stage, he looked like a tank

[@ryanmiller3141]

"dirty as any boxer ever" 😂😂😂. Did you see the Mike Tyson fight? Who bit whose ear twice? Evander was and still is a stand up guy with utmost character.

[@hirepgym6913]

Fred was as sharp as a Razor even when he was wrong he was right we just couldn be bothered to argue with him 😆

[@mrswolls]

Why are you releasing this interview 4-5 years after it was recorded?

[@geraldvounas2452]

Total Lee awesome . 💪

[@thelog86]

Trying to lift the world was a mouthful. These new bodybuilder try to lift the most possible. Old school didnt do that. They was more reps orientated

[@DC-fb9tt]

So when did he train triceps?

[@matthewtomlinson8490]

Lee Haney looks the healthiest post Mr. Olympia

[@MichaelB1979]

Legend

[@mattiaswisemann7266]

Didnt Arnold have heart, knee and shoulder surgeries?

[@cnwil4594]

Yes, but I believe Arnold trained heavy trying to keep up with natural powerhouse Franco Columo who was shorter and compact.

[@ibberman]

I believe he and Stallone had shoulder surgeries at the same time.

[@brunogingras798]

Lee Haney look's amazing: skin, size, WOW!!

[@stunnabreezy3]

The GOAT

[@MajikBoxx]

Why would an elite Olympic amateur and professional boxing, multi-weight world champion like Evander Holyfield - and renowned for a scientific approach to training while being surrounded by the pick of sports scientists and nutritionists, as well as legendary boxing trainers like Lou Duva and Emanuel Steward - suddenly need to consult a non-expert in sports science and sports nutrition outside of pro bodybuilding like ex-pro bodybuilding legend Lee Haney (who was never 'built' naturally anyway)? In this interview, Haney even admits that he had to consult with a sports science expert for that aspect of Holyfield's programme. Holyfield had already been known and documented for including a qualified team of advanced strength, conditioning and nutrition experts in his camp alongside his trainers, on his rise to bulk up his natural light-heavy/cruiserweight physique to the heavyweight crown. Obviously, the pot of gold waiting for him if he could rapidly build up his size to fight the dominant, ferocious, talented, undisputed HW champion, Mike Tyson, was huge but prime Tyson weighed 210-215 lb). When he fought Douglas (246 lb) for the title instead he was still just about 205 Ib and again at massive disadvantages against eg., Foreman and a 235 lb Bowe. Holyfield and co. probably decided that they had gone as far as they could naturally go at this stage against opposition that was almost always bigger than him. Allegedly gaining 20-22lb of added muscle in just 5 weeks (according to Haney) and bulking up that much for the second Bowe fight in '93 was always suspect, including Steward suddenly leaving Holyfield's employ after winning that rematch. There was talk of problems in the camp but not why suddenly. Evander was eventually suspected of using HGH, steroids and flushing agents during this period: this would have needed 'specialized' help to administer these treatments effectively and then cycle and flush his system in time and thoroughly enough to pass the drug-testing routines. Without naming any names, elite pro bodybuilders would expertly know that administer and flush routine. During the Balco Labs scandal and cross-sport investigations, a lab called Signature Labs plus an associated lab called Applied Pharma in Alabama were also raided. Amongst the documents and evidence found was a patient under the name of “Evan Fields” with the same date of birth, telephone number and similar address as Evander. This was coincidental as they were not investigating Holyfield but it raised suspicion among investigators and when reporters called the phone number associated with those prescriptions, Holyfield himself answered. According to SI.com (Sports Illustrated), Holyfield was believed by investigators to be using the pseudonym “Evan Fields”, and allegedly picked up drugs from a private Georgia urologist whose offices were also raided. The report stated that authorities traced the drugs to Applied Pharma in Mobile, Ala., and in June 2004, an individual believed by investigators to be Holyfield picked up three vials of testosterone, two vials of the drug Glukor, and injection supplies. One of the drugs was for hypogonadism. Then, less than a week later, he received five vials of human growth hormone (HGH) and related supplies. Asked about his alleged involvement, Holyfield issued a statement through his promoter that said: “I do not use steroids.” However, Holyfield was questioned about possible HGH use in 1994 when he suffered a mysterious heart condition after strangely lethargic performances and the loss of his title to Michael Moorer. He also performed poorly, if not losing, to average opposition like John Ruiz, Larry Donald and ex-middle and light heavyweight, Bobby Czyz as he aged, between looking jacked and giving almost superhuman performances against incomparably tougher opposition in e.g., the Moorer II, Bowe III and Tyson I & II fights. Dr Goodman (chairman of the Nevada Athletic Commission's medical advisory board) stated that whenever a boxer has a heart problem they are questioned about steroid or HGH use. Holyfield simply denied it and the commission accepted that there was no accepted test at the time to detect the use of HGH. It was later proven that Holyfield's sister collected these HGH, steroids etc private prescriptions for the 'Mr Fields' pseudonym., and Holyfield belated claimed that they were for his father, but only after his father had passed away. Holyfield and Haney are both legends in their respective fields but were all of these HGH and steroid allegations, stunning muscle mass increase, temporary heart problems and fluctuating performances, and pro-bodybuilder input, customer details, addresses and phone numbers - and commission reports; all just coincidental?

[@natepolidoro4565]

13:56 The recent science actually says that the negative is the most important part of a movement and where most growth comes from. You SHOULD lift slower. It is actually better for growth AND joint health.

[@luera331]

pre exhausted meaning warm ups?

[@petercalicchio4973]

The Super slow trainers have left the room

[@davidkazaka4339]

Greatest Bodybuilder of All-Time IMO ! 8 -time Mr. Olympia! Still a record (tie).

[@javatahut1914]

My generation Haney was the man .

[@Njsjdjdjdj]

6:23 his routine

[@CoolSnow-fm8pf]

Smart guy👌

[@anthonycaruso5527]

We all need a Mrs. Betty