Music and Politics? | PHILOSOPHY SATURDAY

[@mcfluffelduckelmfd3928]

DUDE I like your babbling, your art posturing, philosophical takes….. i think you talk well about creativity and what it means in the world. (And your stuff about framing was great too!)

[@jmp01a24]

I learned something valuable about race and I sat there nodding in confirmation, because Andy says things that have been weighing heavy on my mind the last 10 years.

[@glenrotchin5523]

All art is freedom. The essence of politics is control. Therefore the two are in tension.

[@martinhanson4281]

Love these philosophy videos Andy. Can’t wait for more

[@ESP77769]

The snow there looks beautiful!! And the landscape there, wow. I wish I was in the UK.

[@jmp01a24]

I hit the wrong comment and typed what I was going to say to the guy above you 😅 but I gladly repeat myself, now to the right comment: You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.

[@jmp01a24]

I watched you Andy. I saw you walking the dog, getting filmed by a silent partner, talking about things that matters. Magick is real. I have seen it work, felt it and been a part of it. Living is magical. You spit some valid truths on your snowy walk. I was there with you. For what it is worth. It changed my day.

[@bjwnashe5589]

In the USA, BLM is used to refer to both Black Lives Matter and the federal Bureau of Land Management. I propose that the people in charge of both of these entities should swap roles for five years or so. Just as a fun social experiment.

[@demonsbutterfly]

I am watching this in Thailand! Snow is just surreal 😅

[@445supermag]

The sound of the snow on the microphone and that background actually reminded me of the beginning of Black Sabbath rather than a christmas carol. Absolutely beautiful place.

[@jmp01a24]

You know at lower temperatures, the snow gives a special sound when you walk on it. I know snow. I was born and live in Norway, so yes, I know snow. There are many variations of snow. The one in UK is often fluffy and tends to melt really fast when it hit the warmer ground, as winters have become much warmer in the whole of Europe the last 50 years. It don't come in October, like it used to, and stays until end of February or March. These days, it's strange to see it last for more than a month from Christmas and until the end of January. It tends to melt and go away, because it does not rain every day. As Andy said, snow is rain that is frozen, then it falls to the ground as snow. If the temperature is below zero, chances are it will remain frozen until temperature raise to above 0 degrees. Which it often does during the Winter months these days. Climate change is real.

[@Johnnysmithy24]

That’s because we’re men of culture 😎

[@jmp01a24]

@@Johnnysmithy24 More like men of the cult. Gimme that handshake so I know you legit.

[@MiguelCruz-cm1fe]

Dealing with idiots comes with the territory. It is quite depressing though. Take care.

[@mihranbobson7753]

I absolutely LOVE philosophy Saturday!! And I totally agree with treating people as individuals. Not a group!! The largest minority group is the individual!!!!

[@johnburton894]

Keep these type of videos going. I myself like a good robust philosophical discussion. I've always found it good for the soul to get certain subjects of my chest.

[@nigelleaney8266]

Humour and comedy are essential for challenging what me may consider unchallengable. We can reframe our ideas and ultimately grow. Great video. Keep it up. 😎

[@cliverichards6282]

I love these Philosophy Saturday videos. Keep up the good work.

[@elithepitbulldog2209]

Bravo! 100% agree. And I’m also Blues and jazz lover and from Tennessee…..And yes I like Elvis! Look forward to your videos everyday. Keep up the good work!

[@christopher9152]

Excellent video. Keep it honest, keep it funny, keep it thoughtful, and your core audience will keep growing.

[@atlanticane]

You hit it on the head Andy. I posted this on Facebook. Considering you said this off the top of your head makes it all the more impressive.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thanks for that! I['m no longer on Facebook

[@martinheath5947]

The nice big window and snow falling is my favourite background to your videos so far

[@goatuscrow4135]

Love it, Sir. I think it’s an important and timely argument.

[@visionlandmusic]

Absolutely, too many of these 'crybullies' in our society today! Zero tolerance is my personal policy.

[@billphelps5611]

I agree with everything you said here. I don't always agree with you 100% but I have learned a lot from your channel and you are a great teacher. You always inspire me to think about things I may not have considered before and your Sunday school videos have improved my musical journey. I'm not the smartest musician in the room, playing by feel and ear to an extent but you are helping me understand some fundamentals that I never really knew before. I appreciate that. Please keep doing the philosophy videos too! Don't stop!!

[@mazieways]

Love your accent and especially your style, all your videos are interesting and fun and I always learn something- so there!

[@cphawud8242]

I love this stuff ❤

[@Hartlor_Tayley]

They say that politics is downstream from culture.

[@stevebeaney9684]

Another great rant. We love it. And a funky groove to close.

[@0L44R5]

That Jocky Wilson anecdote was great! Im going through all his pictures now, thinking about Jackie Wilson.

[@AndrewjWilson]

Great speech Andy ,against Identity Politics. All correct 👌 👍

[@TheTomryan123]

Finally finished the video, all the way through. Excellent and he has realized things that others are afraid to speak. But Andy does. And his infectious personality - just awesome! By the way, "twat" means something different here in the U.S.A. (Hee, hee!) Love the outro music.

[@macjackson6071]

I just realised it doesn't matter what you are talking about. It's always interesting and fun. Keep going, Andy! btw do you plan to do a video about Ian Carr and Nucleus. I think he deserves it. What do you think?

[@Bruce-w5i9o]

Andy, you have a ferocious and fearless intellect. I know you are not a racist. As an American, I’ve seen the horrible stain of racism and no one of good will would disagree with the statement Black Lives Matter. Now their organization as a formal entity I’m not as familiar with. I applaud your courage as man and musician. I would recommend you read Dr. Eddie Glaude’s amazing new book James Baldwin: Begin Again, “James Baldwin’s America and it’s Urgent Lesson for our Own.” Thanks for the thought provoking philosophical discussion. Much Respect.

[@davidbrown5683]

Very good video. In particular, I was most impressed with the subtle use of the bright green jumper immediately adjacent to the subtle dark blue cravat. Keep up the good work.

[@bendiatho]

Andy please don’t worry about negative comments. You are very talented and charismatic, and I love all your episodes. You are only encountering the dark side of human nature. It’s the side that allows cowards to criticize anonymously with venom Even those that claim they are offended can switch to something else if they prefer. Don’t change!

[@bobparr4723]

What a great speech!!!! ( I'm gonna get my vinyl copy of Milliontown out now and have a listen, because a certain great drummer is playing on it!) 👍

[@JHCdrums]

Man! these are your best videos! The discussion videos. The Jim Mullen interview was very entertaining and interesting. More of that! The video on what non musician's don't get about music was really on point. It's refreshing to hear someone articulate it well. I come to the channel for deeper music/art stuff. Not the ranking videos. Cheers

[@TheTomryan123]

Another thoughtful video. Maybe too thoughtful for a lot of KZbin viewers. But he does keep things entertaining so I hope viewership continues to increase and increase.

[@zoktoberfest]

When a counter argument can't be properly premised, ad Hominem is all that's left to engage in.

[@eveszokolai8939]

Excellnt choice of wardrobe colors today Andy. Brave theme for this episode, thank you for your courage and your calm.

[@vendasch666]

I love the song Cocaine socialism by Pulp. The lyrics are ridiculous. It shows how politicians look at the artists.

[@toddmcdaniels1567]

I don’t believe in systemic racism either. I do believe in demographic tendencies and I believe in ideological capture. What extent these are at play are a matter of perception until they start gathering proper statistics, then it’s an empirical question. Institutional racism is, I think, interchangeable with systemic racism. I agree that racism resides in individuals. “ So my 'identity politics' is to utilise colour blindness at certain key social interactions, and the Police restraining someone would be such an interaction.” Extended physical restraint while fellow officers are walking around is malicious intent pure and simple. Police are taught three cuffing positions. This often amounts to simply turning the hand of the person they are restraining palm up against the ground so that cannot resist by pushing up, then cuffing that person. Physically restraining a person without cuffing them is never an acceptable end goal. “ So for the police to go into an interaction thinking 'Black Lives Matter' is racist in that interaction. They should go into that interaction with concept that All Lives Matter.” - I was discussing the two slogans as pieces of rhetoric. In that, ‘Black lives’ is a topic of discussion at hand. You are re-introducing them as a thought process or mental state. How is ‘Black lives part of the thought process? ‘All lives’ is clearly wrong. We don’t value mosquitoes in the same way, so we really mean ‘All human lives’. In normal contextualized language using ‘Black lives’ no more excludes All lives than ‘All lives’ includes mosquitoes. Language is relevant to thought, but it can both under-specify it and over-specify it. Burdening a simple piece rhetoric with a thought process or philosophy with vast contingencies is a bit much to ask. Even ‘All lives matter’ a meager representation of how an assailant’s life matters, but may or may not have to be shot or may or may not require Psychological Intervention and so on.

[@martinscase3904]

Right on, Andy! X

[@michaelwelton4910]

Absolutely spot on Andy. Very well said and completely agree. Thought about becoming an MP???

[@fogzax]

Brilliant

[@lonewolf8667]

I just came in from grocery shopping and the snow in your video gave me the brrrr reflex. I'm trying to warm up under the duvet, but I often have to go in the shower to warm up, even if I have been outside for just a few minutes. I live north of the polar circle and I struggle a lot with winter and darkness depression. UK looks so much more cozy, but I lived there as a poor student over 20 years ago and the housing standard was rough. I can't imagine it's any better now.

[@peterhodge7082]

Tell us more about the music video at the end....

[@bwillie1793]

Enjoyed this. Recent subscriber looking forward to more. Love the track at the end. Well done.

[@mrinalkundu1521]

Is it possible that everyone doesn’t like conflict, and that the online platforms provide a safe/liminal space for people to vent their frustrations? Doh!!

[@allanspence1347]

Genius.

[@larshansen1978]

Amen, brother!

[@Bassdriver]

I wish someone with your ideas started a political movement. WE NEED IT.

[@thebat2785]

the snow is magic, living in Australia this is a dream to see the snow in the intro of this video , Cheers

[@MsTrotwood]

I can imagine Charles Dickens walking down those snowy roads… 🥹❤️

[@peterm.fitzpatrick7735]

My own instinct is to avoid indulging in the baser emotions like anger, hatred, and resentment. The last one is probably the hardest one to overcome, and Nietzsche did say that was a unique problem with Christian culture. Not the Church, but our unique culture that has arisen out of it. KZbin channels will often lead with titles of "What I hate. or despise, or can't stand", which I think is always a mistake, even if it does gain viewers. These are among the base emotions, I think it was Plato who defined "Anger" as a form of madness that overcomes one's reason.

[@TimothyJBerry]

I appreciate your argument!

[@howardduck2851]

This may be more Music & Religion than Politics, but I’ve discovered artists and creators who hold quite extreme deeply devout beliefs (even some that seem offensive and disturbing - or just plain irrational) have made some of the most intense, moving and beautiful music I’ve ever heard.

[@Mondgeist7777]

Andy, the snow is a massive percussion instrument! It is magical!

[@jedtulman46]

This one is kinda special .Loving it Andy Snow ? In England?. Awesome / just lovely.music and politics do combine i wrote my single ":All Hands on Deck " as a call to arms ,a cry to all humans out there.

[@williamfirstand5057]

Andy, I didn't expect it---but this is one of your best videos!

[@RickB-vg2lz]

this is genius. I can't think as fast as you talk 🙂

[@jublaim]

I feel reinvigorated by this video!

[@marknovak6498]

I can appreciate the frustration with race with wanting to play styles of music and people saying you need to be of a certain race to be authentic. I had no idea of your ethnic background but it is good to understand where you are coming from.

[@frankthorne11]

Thank you.

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video have a great weekend Andy and also I feel sad ❤😢

[@amarok5048]

Love and Peace Andy. I learn a lot from your videos. Big fan! (Who's the artist at the end of the vid?)

[@paulvassallo3317]

ONYA ANDY!

[@cliverichards6282]

Great video.

[@palacerevolution2000]

Fantastic. I think the Philosodays are the best clips you do. Edit - now if we can only get you to reconsider your dislike of the Stones.

[@TheTartanSpartans]

Keep up the good work Sir.Minister for common sense.✌️😎

[@duanedoberman]

I was in the process of typing up you've gone from Weather Report to weather reports and having a go at your hats again, basically because thats how I get my kicks these days, and I was nodding off round about the point of the nun joke, but then I have to say it unexpectedly got interesting and I couldn't help agreeing with everything you said after that. Well said Andy.I'd take my hat off to you but I don't wear them, and certainly none as daft as that one.

[@bobparr4723]

Everybody's right and everybody's wrong 😁😁😁

[@manikmoon]

Well said!

[@bjwnashe5589]

Thanks for this presentation. The snow looks wonderful. In the USA and in the UK, we have had identity politics for ages. It was always white identity politics, and it was racist. This still persists, unfortunately. Trump just won an election here by running a campaign based entirely on white identity politics. I agree with you that the solution to this kind of toxic white identity politics is not more identity politics, based on various “identity types.” The solution needs to be based on what unites us as humans, not what divides us. Universal justice and human rights (not to mention art) cannot be based on “identities.”

[@jesperthorsson3586]

The Great White Hope Trump will hopefully be dealing with the likes of you ie getting rid of DEI hires and other anti-White haters. Your utterly stupid comment shows exactly how powerful the anti-White propaganda has been, it's actually terrifying how brainwashed the left have become. WLM

[@boudiccamarchestorome9475]

💯

[@Qwerty-ks8dn]

I didn't quite understand whether you're saying that Trump is racist or his opposition is? If it's the former, then read on... If it's the latter then ignore what I wrote here... (I haven't seen Andy's clip yet.) You're advocating that Trump fights fire with a small wet blanket, rather than fire. You're applying the same "logic" that pro-Palestinians use when being extremely anti-Israeli biased, namely to not allow Israelis to counter violence with violence, because somehow Palestinians have a right to kill, Jews don't. If Democrats started identity politics, which they 100% did, then it is the Right's DUTY to counter that nonsense by addressing it, not by pretending it isn't there. The point isn't to initiate WHITE POWER as leftists very stupidly suggest (and secretly WANT from Trump), it is to address the blatant racism of the Left, and then crush it forever - if possible. (Naturally, it isn't possible, just as insanity isn't curable.) Besides, Trump did not win by ONLY addressing race-related issues, that is absolute nonsense. Perhaps you need to move away from your sources (CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and a million others) and perhaps, just perhaps, listen to what the other side is saying, not what CNN CLAIMS they are saying. Trump is far from perfect, but he is constantly being misquoted by liars from the Left. Even Bill Maher, a leftist, called them out on it recently... And anyway, the Left busted their balls to get Trump to become the Republican candidate in 2016, foolishly believing that would ensure a victory for Hellary Clinton. The Left wanted Trump as her opponent, and so they got their wish... Or how about Trump having been a Democrat for years?... Did you know this?

[@666MRMY]

Absolutely brilliant. “Make Huxley fiction again” is more accurate than Orwell, at least in the still quite free world. And “make the left look at the distribution of wealth again” without these totalitarian ideas. Thank you for the good music.

[@rattlededge-somemikeratled1630]

... like the story, perhaps apocryphal, that Charlie Parker was well pissed off that white men had been spotted notating what he and the others were playing in the early mornings at the 5 to 5 club, so they could nick it all and use it in white big band arrangements. Thelonious Monk said something like "well we'll have to play a music that they can't play and that they can't write down" ... and Bebop was born ... art is always informed by it's socio/political context imho.

[@stuartmenziesfarrant]

Hilarious take on community comments! 😂

[@Alex-nm7qx]

OK, So I'm trying to catch up after missing a day or two, and Andy seems to live in a space-time continuum where there are more than 24 hours in one day. I mean, I watch 24 hours of his content and there is still another 12 hours to go ON THE SAME DAY! I'm in the market for a used time-machine. ANYWAY - The comment that ended up in your "Offensive Folder" that said you needed to develop a huge dr*g habit and then commit s*****e had me laughing for ten minutes straight - tears were pouring down my face. I can see it from your end, but that one just hit me as hilarious. That's one of the reasons why I like this channel - because there is some levity to it - God knows we can all use some of that. BLM is a failing cause where I am from because people are getting fed up with the whole "Protest For Profit" thing. End of transmission.

[@RinnRuannan]

I do enjoy these videos. I do watch them. I hope the voices you mention in this video who dislike these videos would choose to be more positive. Or not say a thing. Haters do hate, whingers do whinge. Those are voices of limiters, of door-closers. Well done. Beautiful weather as well.

[@DannyMcGrath1969]

In the Bay Area we haven't had a measurable snowfall since 1975.

[@The-Chrystalmachine]

Your reaction to the snow is purely situational,If you were hungry and poorly clothed, you would respond with vastly different feelings, i'm sure. In the same way that your outlook and response to many different things in life are conditional. Our personal circumstances and experiences colour our emotional responses in so many ways. This is true of politics, music, and art, and it is always a struggle to balance our emotional responses with reason and logic. Perhaps this is our real battle with life. And at the the same time, the true source of much of our art and music.

[@srd8228]

Van Morrison wrote Jocky Wilson Says.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

thought they were one and the same

[@TraciSundari-ng9dt]

We luv u more Andy 😂

[@dougwebley9359]

2nd video i watched since i subscribed. Very well reasoned arguments. I knew you was a brummie. Lol.

[@cjd12319721]

Spoken like a true English man Andy. 😮, couldn't help that line, I'm influenced by your comedy: Seriously, I was amazed at the derogatory comments you received, I'm unable to fathom the motivation from some. Keep up the interesting, informative, and fun content.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Because there are many out there that think if they parrot the establishment thinking they are good people.

[@davidstair9657]

That bloody hat!

[@Hartlor_Tayley]

Thumbnail is straight out of Gorky Park.

[@sealisa1398]

It’s a Holden Caulfield hat.

[@mrssmith1845]

Love the videos, block the eejits! Life's too short to pay them attention ❤

[@Joethedrummer]

Yes very good. More of this although i am worried about how much of your videos i am watching lately. 😂

[@DannyMcGrath1969]

Hey Andy! I don't if you have Netflix but on December 4th there is a new documentary about Churchill during the War. Should be good. I'm assuming WW II. One didn't go so well.

[@paulgaskell452]

Hello Andy. I've followed you for a while. I get a lot from your videos. I really enjoyed this one. If I post up my email, will you respond? I would love to go deeper into certain matters with you. I'm a huge jazz fan BTW. I'm thrilled we share a passion for this artform.

[@Liisa3139]

Off topic, but Virgin Rock and Charismatic Voice just had a very interesting conversation about youtubing and music. Some views on AI in there too. Highly recommend the video. I saw it on Virgin Rock's channel, but I'm pretty sure it will be published by Charismatic too.

[@davidstair9657]

Yehaw!!

[@tromatrom]

I like these videos.

[@paulmartinson875]

I went to catholic school and I fell in love with some of the nuns....

[@calum54]

Agree with every word. Many people who believe in identity politics think they are doing good. I think some of the aims are good but the means are just wrong and, even worse, they are completely ineffective and in some cases mimic what they are supposedly against. Keep on speaking up!

[@eleanorchristiansen6125]

Another absolute zinger Andy...1) don't let the haters get you down - and if you save even 1 idiot from ignorance with your wisdom, that's a win for love and honesty and freedom - which is why... 2) you must NEVER stop doing your political/philosphical videos. I deny you're freedom to not speak!

[@sicko_the_ew]

The idea of "opposite people" creates a fracture (if successful) in what's really a continuum (a continuum because Human is the only simply valid description of such an ape). In other words it's XXXist in an ugly way. More than this, though, it's a scam. To have a Movement, you have to have a hard distinction between Yours, and Them, and so you need to have enemies. (Easy kapeazy. Just pick an enemy and hate him or her.) So I was wrong there; you have to _create_ enemies. (The ideas only really serve to create the enemies, so are secondary.) It's a pain, but it's probably best to call this what it really is - maybe "the fictionally opposite people". Or in short, you're exactly right on this matter. Unlike the idiots who don't get it. 🙂 Amazing music in the outro! That's more like what really matters in this world.

[@Liisa3139]

Buss drivers will be furious about this.😎

[@tangfastic7075]

Only the Greek bus drivers

[@timhewtson6212]

Another excellent video! And your hair, as always, is perfect. From the opening scene, I knew that this was going to be a snow-job, a whitewashing ... of the day-to-day horrors of working in a rope factory, with all the whirling fibers causing all sorts of lung conditions amid a beautiful, aesthetic setting. My wife is a writer, and her two favorite reviews are "This writer should kill herself" and "The first paragraph was so awful I threw away my Kindle." I'm not sure your video was about music and politics. I was all ready to champion Family's 'Lives and Ladies' as the best anti-war song of all time. Instead, we are back into the rights and wrongs of identity wars. Do they have a role in music? Of course they have, because they have a role in society. And art has to (sometimes) address issues in society. I think we have to recognize that, if you present as White, all issues are about you as an individual - Beethoven, Mozart etc. But if you are a non-White non-male, the conservative media will immediately focus on you being a female, a non-White, a gay, or whatever. The media is the market place, the agora, and that is how they categorize the market place, so inevitably you get identity politics. When Black people give their children "the talk" at the age of seven, they are not promoting Black identity - they are recognizing Black identity. They are referring to the reality that, if you are growing up Black, you will be stopped all the time by the cops, and you will probably spend some time in jail / prison, and you might get shot for a pretense that your tail light is out (what are called "pretextual" incidents). People do not choose their identities. Their identities are imposed on them by a supposed social norm of the male White person. So, obviously, they respond within their imposed identity, whether they are women, non-White, non-traditional sexual beings etc. Yes, all advocacy groups go overboard - that is how you move the needle. And the landscape changes. There will be a time when people who identify as cows, or sheep, or chickens will raise the identity politics flag and say "All lives matter." And people will push back, saying, "You are just playing identity politics."

[@Tomagotcha]

For a moment I thought you were fully going into Paul Whitehouse Fast Show 'BRILLIANT' mode at the beginning haha. I like your thoughtful videos and defence of art and freedom. sharpens the mind. You tw*t 🤣

[@TheTomryan123]

I WANT to see a picture of Jockey Wilson.

[@michaeldallaway1988]

Pretty sure Dexys were in on the Jackie Wilson thing.

[@spydrmnd]

i appreeciate your lack of stock footage bullshit, just you spitting from the stomach

[@WELLBRAN]

Gil Scott heron?

[@diegocruz5637]

Right after the nun's joke pops up an advert about adventist church, any coincidence?

[@mogulmeister]

With a clunky throwback to another of your videos, I find you to be a mustard analogising controversialist. I am urgently waiting for your take on the late Pete Sinfield and the fact that he is the only person I know that has managed to shovel “transmuting panacea” into a song. More power to your elbow and thanks for most of it! Well all of it really.