Newsnight Tony Wilson Obit / Discussion

Newsnight - Tony Wilson Obit / Discussion
Peter Saville ,Paul Morley and, Richard Madeley

[@Gavb66]

Worked with Tony in 2000 and 2001, Joy Division are my favourite group so there was common ground, but he was just brilliant to work with and a lovely man. In 2003, I was in the news room at Granada and he noticed me as he was called into the studio to read the news, he ignored the call and came over to speak to me, ask how I was etc. They said 'Tony you're on in sixty seconds' and he was going 'ok, hang on'. Always remember him for that. What a fantastic man and a true hero of mine.

[@Bungadin2845]

RIP Britain’s most interesting man.

[@diskochimp]

"Metaphysical Mayor of Manchester." :)

[@manuelgoncalves5853]

Tony Wilson died too soon. I agree he had so much more to offer. Great personality and essential in pop culture. RIP

[@silverapples75]

With incredible generosity he let me do my work experience shadowing him for a week in '89. Looking back that's staggering. Day one was at Granada, lunch with Wilson and Craig Charles. Along the week we were flashing around town in his Jag, to the Haç, Grand Central Design, Factory on Palatine Rd before he jetted off to NYC for In The City. He walked me into a newspaper that was about at the time, Uptown, and got me a job doing music listings. He asked my opinion of the Stone Roses, being a smock and parralels wearing 14 year old manc I obviously loved them and told him so. 'Fucking rubbish' he replied before putting a demo tape on and declaring it the best new band in MCR. It was Northside! Later on, just weeks after he died, I moved into the old Factory office on Palatine Rd, now a flat. Erasmus lived there and still does, along with a lot of ghosts. The postboxes in the lobby, once shelves for stock LPs are still labelled - BUMMED - HAPPY MONDAYS etc The last time I saw Wilson he was DJing at HOME, a short lived Factory nighclub, maybe '97. I went over to say hiya and thank him for his generosity those years ago. 'Hi Tony...' He looked at me with absolute disdain and said 'Oh, fuck off!' 😂 Amazing people, incredible to have seen a glimpse of it.

[@phasetransition1781]

this is an amazing story

[@strawsonian]

Bit of a blind spot regarding the Roses. Oh well. He didn’t sign the Smiths either, but it’s what he did do that matters. Rest in peace.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

@@strawsonian he admitted he was wrong about the Roses when they played Waterfall on his Show The Other Side Of Midnight (great performance)

[@strawsonian]

@@ChubbyChecker182 Thanks, I'll see if I can find it to watch. Have just recently got back into the Roses after belatedly watching Shane Meadows's film about their reunion shows 10 years ago.

[@grizcuz]

If you're still living close to Alan Erasmus. Please tell him that he needs to write his autobiography. He's the last person still alive who was there at the very start of Factory (Wilson, Hannett, Gretton all dead) and one of the few people that hasn't written a book on it. I've always admired just how low-key and out of the limelight he kept himself. But I'd still love to hear his take on his life and what Factory was like at the start.

[@valley_robot]

Met him once , gave him my bands demo tape, I thought he’d just throw it in the bin , he didn’t ,he invited me in to his hotel foyer for a cup of tea , he left a message on my mums phone saying keep doing what I’m doing . Nothing but love and respect for Anthony H , wonderful man

[@Alfie-ft3bx]

Do you still have the demo Tape

[@valley_robot]

@@Alfie-ft3bx I wish I had a copy , alas I have next to nothing from the 80s and 90s , lost all my cassette tapes a long time ago

[@Alfie-ft3bx]

@@valley_robot That’s a shame where you singer or a guitarist or drummer

[@rayvaughan3197]

"Arguably started the cultural regeneration of Manchester" ? Who could argue with the fact??.... without doubt he did ...as Morley said, it was like he was intentionally putting all the pieces together via music via art via tv and radio via writing via attitudes...all the ingredients that bring a generation together and in doing that,shaping and changing everything! The man was a genius! "St Anthony St Anthony please come round,something has been lost and cannot be found....." Anthony H Wilson R.i.P

[@MrDazw72]

Manchester had new life injected into it and is now a city to be proud of because of Mr Anthony H Wilson's endeavours in music and culture.

[@MaMu-fv8uo]

+Darren Wilshaw You can also point to the achievements of United - Tony's team - for making it a world wide known city.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@MaMu-fv8uo Football teams are ten a penny. Cities need more than that, at least he's given it back a cultural scene and not just out of some government quango. To be fair, it already had a place in world history, but it was a while ago.

[@adrianwhiteley4790]

I liked him very much and named my son after him.

[@fionagregory5774]

adrian whiteley so did I.

[@backcombed2559]

@@fionagregory5774 legend

[@backcombed2559]

legend

[@backcombed2559]

legend

[@41061keef]

He brought Punk and much more to The North West, i remember "so it goes" and "whats on" with great affection, not being rude to John Peel but Tony Wilson was a bigger influence on my early musical life!

[@adrianwhiteley4790]

41061keef me too

[@fionagregory5774]

adrian whiteley and he was a large part of my teenage years.

[@adejames1960]

A real character, loveable yet anarchic, and gave a buzz to Manchester during some shit times during the Thatcher era. Cheers Tony.

[@kristianTV1974]

I look forward to the same shit time we will have when kindly uncle Jezza comes to save us all with his particular brand of inept politicians. Think you're smart just because you're against the current political status quo? Think again.

[@carl5192]

You will always be remembered Tony Long live the north!

[@kollusion1]

North? . . . North West mate!

[@cliveedwards2958]

He was somebody I listened to..he was confrontational and great telly and great fun..but intelligent ! I thought he went well with punk and I loved it

[@kenward6306]

, remember the Jolly Sailer Macclesfield listening to Joy Division. 1978.not playing just talking.

[@kennethdougall5141]

Iv'e had a pint in that pub,on my first visit to macclesfied,i went to see where ian curtis was buried,im a joy division from edinburgh,🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍❤️

[@matty7dream1]

It's a shame Tony wasn't present participating in this discussion of himself. He would have told them all they had missed the point. Not because they had, but just to stir it up a bit.

[@grizcuz]

Like or loathe him. Consider him a genius, a pompous big-mouth or anything in-between. I don't think there will ever be someone like him again. Coming from fairly humble roots, the son of a tobacconist, getting to Cambridge, being a respected journalist and the head of one of the most famous independent record labels ever. He really was a complete one off. I used to work in a restaurant kitchen washing dishes on a weekend as a teenager. One Saturday in around 87-ish, the boss comes into the kitchen and says: "I think that bloke who runs that record label you're into has just come in". I put my head around the door and there he's sat with a stunning looking woman. The boss let me run home and get all of my Factory Records releases in my vinyl LP case. Then as AHW asks for the bill, the boss approaches him and explains how the lowly dishwasher was a Factory fan and would he mind signing some records for me? He honestly couldn't have been nicer and was visibly chuffed that I owned the first Mondays LP (that had only been out a few weeks) and told me to keep hold of it because the next pressing wouldn't have the Desmond track on it because Wacko Jacko's lawyers (who owned the rights to the Beatles catalogue at that point) were threatening to sue. I had the nerve to say that I thought within 2 years, the Mondays would be as big as New Order, he replied "I do hope so, because the label needs a new band to take the pressure off them". And I was pretty much spot on, by 89, the Mondays were probably the biggest band in the country as the Madchester scene exploded.

[@douglaseivindhall3291]

I wouldn't be alive now if it was not for him. RIP... the best to your family.

[@Flur1]

Anthony H,Sean Boylan,great friends.

[@sicks6six]

"everybody loves you when your dead"

[@Rjgmanc]

This is the closest I've ever seen to Morris getting upset/showing emotion before.

[@alihughes6882]

Oh dear sorry to hear this .

[@janemcfaddenmeep4199]

😢😢😢 Tony talk to me

[@rayvaughan3197]

jane mcfaddenmeep "and when it comes to footie Tony dont talk to me about the scousers..."

[@michaelmonkhouse3036]

Excerpt from 'Last Interview With Tony Wilson', the last Tony Wilson interview: 'Manchester was Manchester and it was Manchester and Manchester was Manchester. And out of Manchester there came this city - Manchester - and this band - Joy Division. There couldn't have been Manchester without Manchester, or Joy Division, and I thought, F**k - this is Manchester, right? So let's - let's just have... Manchester. And that meant Joy Division, who became New Order - yeah, Manchester meant New Order too right? Gonna shoot me? Never shoot people, that's the fundamental rule of television. Never shoot. Just Manchester, New Order and New Order. And I'm like, on the telly, so I'm like, Yeah, let's put Manchester on the telly. And Joy Division, and New Order. Gonna shoot me?'

[@clg850b]

I remember Mr Wilson on the beach looking for the new wave!

[@backcombed2559]

some thing never die his spirit never left the earth rite nw it a rainy sunday nite and he is in my heart posh wanker x

[@fuzzy1237]

Legend

[@Spectrescup]

Peter Saville's hair hasnt changed colour in 40 years.

[@charliebigplumz]

Look at Richard Maidley's pupils

[@thursoberwick1948]

To be fair, he has some interesting things to say here. I don't think most people would know what "Joy Division" meant.

[@losttango]

It was fairly well publicised at the time. Also New Order, another Nazi-related name (although to be fair Gramsci also called his newspaper that).

[@dbag3345]

Good Catholic lad who understood the meaning of the word "vocation".

[@thursoberwick1948]

Perceptive comment.

[@noyoureafuckintube]

Pat Roach!?!!?! 🤣

[@chrisst8922]

Doesn't Kirsty look nice. I think it was Tony Wilson who said that he didn't want to book artists that wanted to play, only those that HAD to play.

[@thursoberwick1948]

Meh. Kirsty Wark. Shockingly bad writer. Smug presenter.

[@Johnconno]

Poor Tony, killing himself like that. He had so much left to offer...

[@JoeyXSmith]

He didn't kill himself. He died from a heart attack.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@JoeyXSmith Did he know Ghislaine Maxwell? That seems to be a dead cert way to go. Jean-Luc Brunel being the last one

[@sparx550]

Love you tony, god bless you lad.

[@multiplepersonalities2304]

Didn't Joy Division finally reach peak sales amongst the ingnorant baby boom in the USA? New Order and the other Factory Acts will all achieve peak sales in the US over the next ten year is what will follow logically. If you are interested you will need Album Production and then you will tour. Let me know if you need production help.

[@taffyfusilier]

F

[@danh5637]

I liked Tony. But really he was just a low grade bargain bin Malcolm McLaren

[@losttango]

Then again, so was Malc.

[@Spectrescup]

He produced more and better records than Malcolm.