Musket NERFS Are NOT What You Think! Musket Accuracy & Damage Falloff Changes Explained!⚔️New World

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DukeSloth

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In the New World Fellowship & Fire update, the Musket will receive major changes, which are mostly nerfs. The accuracy of the weapon itself is reduced, making it rely on the Accuracy perk to be effective. Ballistic Advantage is replaced with Steady Hands, reducing the damage at long ranges. The damage falloff of elemental gems slotted in ranged weapons is also fixed, further reducing the elemental portion of the Musket's damage. On top of that, Stopping Power also receives a direct nerf to its damage output. And last but not least, Mortal Empowerment, one of the most popular perks for Musket users, is also being nerfed. But how do these changes actually work? Is the Musket worth using after the patch at all? And why on earth would I claim that the Musket even received an indirect buff this patch?
‪@MaleOreo‬ 's video: • The Musket Nerf is Not... - The Musket Nerf is Not That Bad... (New World: Fellowship & Fire)
X-R's twitch: / xr3f
00:00 - Real sniper hours
00:36 - New range damage falloff
03:00 - Mortal Empowerment
03:43 - Accuracy changes & aim changes
04:39 - How does Accuracy perk work?
06:31 - The broken perk & what MaleOreo found!
08:43 - How this changes ability viability!
10:09 - Why this patch also BUFFS the Musket!
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@Horstor
@Horstor Жыл бұрын
Random inaccuracy is such a bad way to balance the musket :/ It should have been traveltime and bulletdrop like the bow has. Make it faster than bow but not hitscan as it is now (and i say that as a melee that was always annoyed by muskets)
@darknubent
@darknubent Жыл бұрын
RIP Team 10 on every war roster
@slumped7341
@slumped7341 Жыл бұрын
Good video, Duke. I wish you would of talked more about the inaccuracy while moving. The dmg fall off and bloom are doable (with accuracy perk). Not being able to move and shoot is completely unreliable. Duals/arenas are chalked, and players will be forced to sit on rocks in OPR even more so. Didn't like muskets running away before? They’ll hate it even more so now
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын
As long as you have the Accuracy perk, you can slightly strafe while scoped and will probably still hit your shot. The general playstyle is definitely slowed down a bit though. But I think really good Musket players that made Musket work in Arena before will still be able to do so.
@michallldobrovolnz9598
@michallldobrovolnz9598 Жыл бұрын
I would rather them standing on a rock and not being able to machine gun me then changing position and still have hitscan lol
@johnpoc6594
@johnpoc6594 Жыл бұрын
building RNG into a weapon is just tupid, this should be skill based
@Chuuuuma
@Chuuuuma Жыл бұрын
wasn't accuracy perk only related to hip fire of bows and muskets, or did they rework the perk to work when adsing?
@kurtdha
@kurtdha Жыл бұрын
They must have reworked it, because you're right, accuracy perk only affects hip fire currently.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын
It definitely must affect ADSing, considering even the targeter when scoped is significantly smaller.
@smashinghoney
@smashinghoney Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I’m confused about one thing though - I thought the accuracy perk was to help with hip firing?
@vortraz2054
@vortraz2054 Жыл бұрын
Not anymore, now its fucking mandatory and theres no charm for it gg. Shit balance team shit game dint trust them.
@musketchad
@musketchad Жыл бұрын
the devs want you to play like a bot. this nerf is straight up deleting the weapon from the game, there is no brightside. all the best muskets in the game were mobile, run and gun duelists. the rock sitters were just food for schizos. they are forcing everyone to pick firestaff. and there will be no counterplay to firestaff. just a bunch of firestaffs kiting each other until someone gets half hp and gets fireball'd. theres your immersive pvp. UNINSTALL
@badubadu2298
@badubadu2298 Жыл бұрын
dude hatchet/musket most toxic build for sure cause if u pick hachet u cant atack in melee taxi musket get nerf so im happy
@jonahrobinson5140
@jonahrobinson5140 Жыл бұрын
Wait. What are your movement key binds
@david2012slayer
@david2012slayer Жыл бұрын
the zooming x3 of the sniper's perk is bug too sometimes, at least with me, some dude in the same server can do the zooming and I can't. So fucking annoying.
@matthew8720
@matthew8720 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the positivity. We'll see how much substance it holds once the ptr drops-if there are no muskets in opr or wars anymore we'll know that it's just not viable anymore. Although let's be honest...that's...kinda what you all want, hehe. Btw, oreo is maining bow as of 2 days ago.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Жыл бұрын
I think those are bad change it changes nothing or makle it even worse when we gonna see Musket on m10 Mutation? another 1 or 2 years in future?
@BREAKocean
@BREAKocean Жыл бұрын
Came back after half a year of not playing and the musket that I i used to love now felt terrible. The hitbox does not make sense anymore. I used to be able to pull threat off the tank in the caretaker encounter in genesis and now it's just not the same :(.
@iFINNIX
@iFINNIX Жыл бұрын
They changed musket so it’s now a valorant playstyle. Stand still and stare at a corner 😅
@that773guy4
@that773guy4 Жыл бұрын
Aiming a little bit to the right is pretty much 1 of the most important things a player can do. If a player is facing me, i'll aim for his left ear or shoulder. Most of the time it will be a headshot or direct center mass bodyshot.
@inasatok
@inasatok Жыл бұрын
So, they made the already low dps weapon even slower. Waiting even more after each shot, being even more stationary so camping will be the only thing you can do and you are even worse in mid to close range and basically only pulling out the musket in long range and also lucking in a non damage perk as a baseline so from now on you will only have 2 perk rifles if you want to hit anything at all. I dont see how is this solving any of the problemw ith the musket, they either had to lower its range and accuracy but give it more damage or make it shoot faster, these changes makes no sense and so stupid. The game is close to being completely dead so I dont care that much though they could add lightsabers and m4s too it wouldn't change anything at this point.
@DreadfulNW
@DreadfulNW Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate the time and effort Dukesloth puts into his content. Unfortunately, one month later, turns out the musket changes were about as bad as most people initially thought they'd be. Sure musket is still slightly viable in OPR, but in highly competitive scenarios like wars, musket is absolutely terrible. RIP
@usmcabbott888
@usmcabbott888 Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one noticing the Greater Accuracy perk is useless now? It suppose to remove accuracy penalty but it does not
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Жыл бұрын
If this is true, then i still cant see accuracy being worth taking over another damaging perk. Most muskets would rather just be a little closer and have much higher burst potential. They also REALLY need to remove the bloom widening when you move your mouse. I am fine with it being less accurate if youre moving, but there are hardly ever going to be any situations where anyone is just going to let them shoot you. For god's sake most people macro a key to dive and run on repeat of a musket even looks at their general direction. Instead of bloom, AGS should have just made the musket a non hitscan weapon, gave it some bullet drop, *but much less than the bow ofcourse* and instead of the bloom nonsense gave it a +30% reload speed or so.
@QuimDosChurros
@QuimDosChurros Жыл бұрын
Don't kid yourself, until they fully fix everything musket related, the musket is officially a dead weapon. Period.
@looppoop9754
@looppoop9754 Жыл бұрын
can a new player access this accuracy perk
@Morbus47
@Morbus47 Жыл бұрын
Don't even bother, the game will be dead soon enough because AGS is running it into the ground. The only people left in this game have Stockholm syndrome.
@shanti1z
@shanti1z Жыл бұрын
Great video. The nerfs weren't as bad as I thought. Thanks Duke and Maleoreo.
@vortraz2054
@vortraz2054 Жыл бұрын
Their bad in a completely different way. Being they make the weapon RNG as fuck and not fun for no reason. Now you HAVE to roll accuracy or you HAVE to have RNG sidways shooting muskets. And the Range and Damage are still stupid. So nothing changes except people have to craft new muskets. And Lis musket is now Dog ass.
@ChindasASecas
@ChindasASecas Жыл бұрын
Soooo, musket is not nice at distance XD
@inquisitortaki6476
@inquisitortaki6476 Жыл бұрын
Looks like everyone gonna run ancient intention muskets 😎
@FearLegion-co8gg
@FearLegion-co8gg Жыл бұрын
My flame attuned, Vicious, Keenly jagged musket says otherwise 🤣 I still dont really think accuracy is worth it. I run high kill OPRs all the time and im rarely ever shooting people outside of the 30-40 meter range.
@inquisitortaki6476
@inquisitortaki6476 Жыл бұрын
@@FearLegion-co8gg for me accuracy is good for having hard time to hit long ranges like me 😅
@kakashispano7821
@kakashispano7821 11 ай бұрын
As man I liked the musket so much now is bs with all they have done
@TheCrushmaster
@TheCrushmaster Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing musket because I played it super up close and couldn't compete with mortal empowerment rats. All they needed to do was increase/competently do damage falloff (they didn't, as the ele split showed) and nuke ME. This will just make it so much worse for close up play. That combined with the EHP nerfs will just make playing ratty even more attractive, which is lame.
@Morbus47
@Morbus47 Жыл бұрын
How to kill a rapidly dying game faster: An AGS story.
@vortraz2054
@vortraz2054 Жыл бұрын
Duke the Sniper perk isnt bugged, he was simply saying that while your camera moves forward, the accuracy of your shot stays crappy. You can see the target better, but cant hit it any better, because the single shot rifle will still shoot sideways for some reason
@mikaelvellmun7228
@mikaelvellmun7228 10 ай бұрын
Was a top server musket main...returned to the game this s Week and the nerfs are ridiculous lol. Musket pretty useless compared to fire now or any other build...
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
i really hate when devs cave to PVP whiners in a game with PVE aspects. I saw musket alpha domination coming from since release, and i'm just mad i waited until after the nerf to pick the game back up... the whole appeal of musket was "if i can see it on my screen, i can hit it" made tagging mobs great. i haven't tried many other weapons, regearing is expensive, but i do now i'll be putting NW back on the shelf because none of them were as fun as the sniper
@trickpa80
@trickpa80 Жыл бұрын
For AIM users this all does not matter
@lukasbanasik
@lukasbanasik Жыл бұрын
bow is still broken
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
Good thing 95% of players are horrendous at the weapon
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Жыл бұрын
Blunderbuss is also dog shit in PvE
@sian1of2
@sian1of2 Жыл бұрын
When zoomed in, his mouse sensitivity becomes so low that it can almost follow the target. Either he changes the mouse sensitivity or a program is doing it. No way the cursor can move so smoothly with high sensitivity.
@domie1420
@domie1420 Жыл бұрын
Muskets sens when aiming is: Low on 1st scope - High on medium scope - low on 3rd zoom. Anyone who has ever zoomed in with a musket knows this. But you straight jump to the "Tool Assisted Aim" conclusion. Broken brain :(
@sian1of2
@sian1of2 Жыл бұрын
@@domie1420 You missed the "Either". Broken eyes :(
@SebboTheFro
@SebboTheFro Жыл бұрын
Also, muscle memory is a thing, practice makes perfect, if you honestly think a human is not able to track a target in a computer game after practicing it and getting used to the sensitivity, regardless of what it is, then your standard for what is possible must be exclusively set from the outlook of what YOU can do, and that standard seems very low, what the actual F, lmao.
@sian1of2
@sian1of2 Жыл бұрын
@@SebboTheFro Internet is full of people who thinks they are good and others are bad. What the actual F, lmao.
@SebboTheFro
@SebboTheFro Жыл бұрын
@@sian1of2 Your response literally doesn't even mean anything, you pulled some random statement out of your ass claiming the way this guy tracks with his aim is not possible unless on super-low sens or hacking, the only way I can rationalize how you came to this conclusion is because you are judging from your own ability, which must then be low, have you ever watched a single clip from CPL players in any given FPS game?
@testtesting5572
@testtesting5572 Жыл бұрын
I’m musket main and I’m happy for these changes, it will finally separate good musket players vs bad musket players. Good musket players will still make musket work.
@Hello-sw3en
@Hello-sw3en Жыл бұрын
Bad mustket player with aimbot : Am I a joke to you?
@testtesting5572
@testtesting5572 Жыл бұрын
I already played musket in ptr opr so its fine. Calling everyone who kills you aimbot shows how weak your mindset is
@zeronacltemp
@zeronacltemp Жыл бұрын
Played only melee but now I'm considering musket since it seems it will be fun to play instead of a broken bore-fest
@luzbrother
@luzbrother Жыл бұрын
@@testtesting5572 shows how braindead this weapon is and you all musket losers are no-skillers - GO PVE!
@vortraz2054
@vortraz2054 Жыл бұрын
Making your accuracy straight up RNG will NOT effect good shots any less than bad ones. The fucking bow has more range now and will now occupy the role of strongest ranged weapon and will be annoying. This change does fucking nothing but make a weapon feel like shit for no reason. They JUST daid they wanted ranged weapons to be viable in pve lmao, I was already getting ORDERED to get a bow because muskets shit by clowns in REGULAR expeditions. And then this games inexcuseabke failures of a balance team were like nah were gonna put Rng on musket, fix inflated crit chance, NERF crit damage (When those stats effect Pve and not Pvp) leave the damage and damage falloff alone, and then musket players will have to run into bow players arrows to get in range, because BOOWS dont shoot sideways, so now THEYRE the ranged weapon noone can get close to. These devs dont know fuck all about game balance and they even admitted it "Too scared to make changes cus were gonna ruin it moooore" Its not fucking hard you fake ass clowns. Nerf the fucking base damage and damage drop off. Musket has 1500-1600 base damage and no fall off up to 100m and they wonder why people are frustrated when theres no ANSWER for that. BUT YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE THE WEAPON RNG. CHANGE THE DAMAGE FALLOFF
@brandonlopez4491
@brandonlopez4491 Жыл бұрын
I want to point out accuracy perk makes little to no difference
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын
That doesn't correlate with what I found in my testing at all.
@brandonlopez4491
@brandonlopez4491 Жыл бұрын
@@DukeSloth still targets means nothing when trying to kill healers kiting and dodging all while trying to avoid being hit by bows and skitzos. You can strife slightly and not be affected by bloom. But the second you dodge it’s reset.
@planetg2125
@planetg2125 Жыл бұрын
It makes sense. If you want to play musket at long range you should need the accuracy perk, and at shirt range then dropped for something else. That is a positive chane
@jo1italianstyle
@jo1italianstyle Жыл бұрын
I returned to the game, i saw what happend to the musket, i've seen that the devs are just the same idiots, so i guess no returning for me!
@MetroidCannonBall
@MetroidCannonBall Жыл бұрын
Musket is one of the main reasons I quit new world. In a war, the defending team had 3 musket mercs (cool, I love the idea of mercs), elite group of hired guns. The problem is the use aim assist, later tries to sell this script to one of our players. It's a toggle on off thing. They really need to kill a healer on toggles head shot one body other lower body. And shot until target is dead. At the end of the day nothing in the game matters if cheats like this are not handled in a timely manner. Amen
@kurtdha
@kurtdha Жыл бұрын
What do you mean the bow didn't receive similar nerfs? The bow got nerfed quite a bit. Bow received the lowest base crit chance buff, and got less damage from evade shot, losing stagger on rapid shot, fixing the elemental damage gem for ranged damage, and had damage reduced on 4 additional passives that add up to another 20% damage nerf on top of all of that.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын
Bow got nerfs, but not in the way that Musket did where it affects range falloff and aiming as a whole. The nerfs are mostly flat damage nerfs. Those will definitely still make a difference, but not fundamentally affect the playstyle.
@ericwilliams6515
@ericwilliams6515 Жыл бұрын
Bow Cope
@F3L0
@F3L0 Жыл бұрын
Man they're gonna just delete the weapon at this point 😭😭
@natehiggers42069
@natehiggers42069 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would
@MrJuise22
@MrJuise22 Жыл бұрын
In that point they would be making favor for the game, musket should not be in the game tbf
@jamescrook9600
@jamescrook9600 Жыл бұрын
Nah it was super strong they had to nerf it. I'm glad they are actually balancing weps
@natehiggers42069
@natehiggers42069 Жыл бұрын
Musket is just thematically retarded. I mean, you have Massive Fantasy Melee Weapons, Magical Staves and Gauntlets, A Classic Bow and then just like..... a fucking gun. Its just retarded and has no place in a high fantasy setting like this.
@Josh-sv8nj
@Josh-sv8nj Жыл бұрын
​@@MrJuise22 but bow should be in it? this is a colonial era game, muskets existed in that time period. why should it be removed?
@michallldobrovolnz9598
@michallldobrovolnz9598 Жыл бұрын
People just got used to musket being insanely broken, running around with a lasergun like its nothing.
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
I don't really understand how we went from having mortal empowerment being the most broken perk in the game for some ungodly quantity of time to gutting ME, reworking CC abilities, reworking FS, reworking musket, and reworking fortify all in a single patch. I'm down to see them try to change things and even more down if their followup patches are also pretty heavy handed but I really, really hope they don't just make these changes and then do fuck all for weapon balancing for another 6 months. BB looking like it will go absolutely bonkers next patch.
@kurtdha
@kurtdha Жыл бұрын
There's lots of changes because it's been 6 months since the last balance changes. They've already committed to faster balance changes moving forward.
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
@Kurt There being 6 months since the last set of balance changes fills me with concern, not hope. Their last set of changes was also not nearly as aggressive as this one. And even in their balance changes since then, they have managed to introduce game breaking bugs in weapon balancing on several occasions. I don't really care what they say they will do when they haven't done a patch like this or a patch schedule like that (in terms of weapon balancing) ever before, let alone without introducing game breaking bugs.
@kadeskywalker8367
@kadeskywalker8367 Жыл бұрын
Players with aimbot: Lol AGS
@mrtendollarman6157
@mrtendollarman6157 Жыл бұрын
i ll tell you what. this game wouldnt be the same without you and xr
@rikmik3046
@rikmik3046 Жыл бұрын
I do agree that aim shouldn't reset but if this stops from 5 man muskets sitting on top of a rock with 20 plus kills I'm happy. Buff it later a tiny bit where it needs it.
@MaleOreo
@MaleOreo Жыл бұрын
they didn't gut my weapon YAY :D !!!!!
@BigDataDaddy
@BigDataDaddy Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Iicc3939
@Iicc3939 Жыл бұрын
Thank god the game added a weapon for people that usually play FPS. Poor people have barely any games they can play. Glad We have a weapon for them the poor souls. Us greedy people that have so many mmos that want to run around with swords need to stop complaining.
@NeonLine
@NeonLine Жыл бұрын
its not about swords even all other ranged weapons dont have hitscan lol
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
It needs to be in the game to counter bow. There is no bow counter without musket. It ain't about you bruv.
@NeonLine
@NeonLine Жыл бұрын
@@ab3240 ice mage hard counters bow
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
@@NeonLine Not even slightly, but ok.
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah my guy because god forbid a fantasy mmorpg tries something different for the first time in like 20 years. I suppose that's not entirely true tho because the game RIFT also tried ADS firearms years ago.
@GlenironPa
@GlenironPa Жыл бұрын
Something that needs nerfed and is a must perk on all the weapons is Attunement. It is way to strong. Just increase the cooldown. It's 1s cooldown is nothing. Increase it to 3s...imo.
@natehiggers42069
@natehiggers42069 Жыл бұрын
Or do something to make attunement not just superior to everything else, and therefore mandatory
@ericwilliams6515
@ericwilliams6515 Жыл бұрын
Musket has finally been balanced. Now for the bow
@marktackman2886
@marktackman2886 Жыл бұрын
I think they are focusing on musket changes so much because when this goes f2p they know people will flood in and play this weapon, that is why they want to get it right NOW.
@waterant7691
@waterant7691 Жыл бұрын
TBH. F2p might help a lot. They are focusing on starter exp. Have a battle pass now ect. I love new world combat. TBH if they can figure out raids and war systm to be more effective in getting a larger player base to participate. The game is good.
@marktackman2886
@marktackman2886 Жыл бұрын
@@waterant7691 They even slipped up and mentioned free-2-play, they would have edited that out if it wasnt true I bet.
@musketchad
@musketchad Жыл бұрын
the gear grind and level grind will prevent any f2p players from sticking around. you have to grind for literally weeks to months for your build. aint no one doing that
@jagiix2127
@jagiix2127 Жыл бұрын
Wtf... musket buffed ? BS
@MrJuise22
@MrJuise22 Жыл бұрын
Well kinda yeah, when people can take less dmg musket guys can just sit behind whit dildo in their ass and spam shots. Next patch is buff to every range weapon.
@jagiix2127
@jagiix2127 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJuise22 BS... this affect everyone... musket ain't getting a buff, it is having the worse nerf of all NW history... he didn't talk about the rapier, rapier nerf is also a nerf for musket players, you guys were complaining about musket players siting on rocks, there you have it. Thoses changes will only make it worse hope you'll all like it
@jamescrook9600
@jamescrook9600 Жыл бұрын
Glad they are balancing weps big time. There should be different meta weps every season and this is the kind of changes we need to see
@NeonLine
@NeonLine Жыл бұрын
not diff meta weapons every season, thats their flaw in game design to begin with
@evann4391
@evann4391 Жыл бұрын
thanks god that shit finally got nerfed to the ground
@Morbus47
@Morbus47 Жыл бұрын
Idc, my aimbot still works.
@freemanlee5655
@freemanlee5655 Жыл бұрын
Well high damage but lower hit rate is better way to do it.... end of the day musket is too low skill required and risk free.
@Josh-sv8nj
@Josh-sv8nj Жыл бұрын
the biggest risk is that you can't spec into const because you need to spec into both dex and int to get your damage, and you can't play med or heavy armor because you need the damage buffs from light, so you're a glass cannon. there is plenty of risk for using this weapon. more: -2.5s reload time in between shots -slower movement speed while reloading -only 1 shot -damage is not high enough to be even remotely scary, this will be exascerbated after the accuracy changes go live -no "heavy shots" -shooter stance 100% removes mobility to trade off for more consistent and faster shooting -pidgeonholed into very specific perks to be decent need i go on?
@freemanlee5655
@freemanlee5655 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sv8nj To be honest playing a mage is way more risky.
@ab3240
@ab3240 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sv8nj Weaknesses != risk. High quality low iq comment.
@Josh-sv8nj
@Josh-sv8nj Жыл бұрын
@@freemanlee5655 I don't think so. You don't have to have good aim to play a mage. Just throw your fireballs where ever and you have a good chance it will hit.
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