Pseudointellectual Gets WRECKED

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[@justinwatson1510]

I have never before felt such intense secondhand embarrassment.

[@sampeeps3371]

This caller needs look in mirror and come to the realisation that "oh wait, I was dumb in school".

[@takoja507]

Just at school? He is still dumb. ;)

[@colesunwood1656]

Did he really attempt to turn the burden of proof onto yall? That’s priceless

[@lubrew5862]

It’s actually extremely common with theists. They know they can’t back up their own claims. As soon as someone called them on it they do whatever they can do to shift the burden or runaway from the topic.

[@waketp420]

I don't think I've ever had a discussion with a theist that hasn't tried to push the burden of proof onto me. Literally every time at least once.

[@Soapy-chan]

literally any theist and/or conspiracy theorist does that

[@ritchie6162]

The unanswered question: “What is life?” My broken thoughts: “Shrek… Shrek is life.”

[@ChristopherGoodwin79]

To be fair, saying I don't know is a valid answer to any question.

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

Yeah but then you can’t have opinions about it if you don’t know.

[@ChristopherGoodwin79]

@@TypicalEveningPictures Sure you can, Peterson honestly answered that he doesn't know the origin of the big bang, or how abiogenesis started, but he clearly has opinions on both. The guest Generation was asked What Is Life? for 16 straight minutes. He kept replying I Don't Know. A very valid answer. Generation did try by answering a few times, saying Life is the difference between rocks and animals. When I look up the definition of life, it says "the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter". Seems to be the same answer to me. This back and forth was so annoying and childish.

[@frenziedfive]

@@ChristopherGoodwin79 he has opinions on how it works, because we know that. We don’t know how it stated, and he says as much. You can have an opinion on something based on what you know about it. You don’t have to have 100% confirmation of every element to know how it works

[@isaacbruner65]

​​​​​@@ChristopherGoodwin79 I dont know where you found that definition of life, but it certainly isn't a good one. The condition that distinguishes ANIMALS AND PLANTS from inorganic matter? I guess whoever wrote that definition forgot about the estimated 1 million species of fungi, plus every single single-celled organism, from protists, to bacteria, to archaea. Apparently none of them are alive? Here's a far better definition. "Life is a quality that distinguishes matter that has biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from matter that does not, and is defined descriptively by the capacity for homeostasis, organisation, metabolism, growth, adaptation, response to stimuli, and reproduction." There's nothing magical involved here, and non-living viruses give a good indication of how non-living self-replicating molecules could have given rise to the biological processes that define life. We don't know definitively all the details of how life originated, but we don't have to know how it happened to know that it could have happened completely naturally, and since there's no evidence that anything supernatural was involved, it's a reasonable assumption that it did happen naturally.

[@spin.chicken]

@@ChristopherGoodwin79 A definition isn't necessarily what something IS. It's a very rudimentary summary and description of a thing or concept, but not necessarily what it IS. And no, Generation was not using "I don't know" genuinely. He repeatedly said "I don't know what YOUR definition of life is" meaning he has his own ideas and thoughts of what life is, he's just refusing to answer by saying "I don't know". And if he DOESN'T know, then he shouldn't be arguing about life in the first place.

[@telsonater]

“Life is something that is living” 😂😂 #knifetoagunfight

[@PhilipDresdenWayne]

Clearly this guy decided to use the “I’m rubber and you’re glue” argument today.

[@wolfgangbeeber2086]

If you ever wander into a debate and don’t immediately recognize which is the Creationist….. They’re the one the answers a question with a question

[@kaweckipiotr]

Guy is exposed .... he doesnt know what is he talking about ... all hes doing is projecting. Clueless

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

This was amazing. Love how you cut off his nonsense at the core. If you can’t define life then you can’t make claims about how it works 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@timhallas4275]

This is your brain. This is your brain on presuppositions that you don't really understand.

[@obsleet]

A literal child.

[@tysongalloway5700]

I could pick up dirt from anywhere in the world and breathe as much life into it as possible, but it will never create a human. Checkmate

[@catpoke9557]

"Give me an example of life coming from dirt" "plants" "Not like that!" Basically the exact same arguments they make

[@Soapy-chan]

while he is stupid, he's smart enough to not answer the question, because he knows he has to stop believing if he does.

[@ianchisholm5756]

'I've already told you.' How many times have I heard this from theists who have repeatedly avoided the question?

[@thebaseballchad9256]

Kent Hovindisms

[@dylans0630]

Boooooooo 👎🏻 he sucks

[@alphaghost9672]

If religion didn't occur humanity will now possibly be a tier 1 civilization.

[@obsidian1111]

People like him start ad hominem attacks and when you call them out on it, they spin it around like you are the one that started it. Haha.

[@dylans0630]

Narcs they are 😒

[@aaronlietz]

He knew he was trapped. "Mr. Ignorant+Arrogant, since you don't know what life is, how can you then honestly claim 'Life can't come from non-life? Yeah, exactly. You can't.'"

[@jeffreyjdesir]

Yes, it incorrectly casts life as an object and not a pattern then just states the law of contradiction in terms of Life. Its so lazy, and just pushes the buck back with extra steps.

[@JayordanC]

Whenever you see Victor, you know you're in for a bad time.

[@Soapy-chan]

"what is life?" "this is not alive, this is alive" genius

[@marasmusine]

The "Victor Nieves Show2 promises in depth constitutional analysis, social conservatism, and the pressing issues of today." I wonder if he's as "in depth" with politics as he is with biology?

[@roccondil5]

"Hey, how are you?" " i dUnNo, hOw aRe yOu?"

[@RafaelKeveluk]

"I think evolution doesn't explain the diversity of life." What is diversity then? "Woah! Enough with the gotcha questions!!!"

[@nicholasbanton]

This conversation began well, but having multiple people involved can sometimes make it less focused. This is especially true when some participants argue dishonestly, avoiding the main points and intentionally going off-topic instead of admitting when they're wrong.

[@MurderCraw]

Omg, did he start talking like Chills at you? Lol!!

[@uncommonman]

Life can't come from non-life: What is life? I refuse to answer... It's as bad as when they refuse to define Kind

[@stevenpike7857]

Dunning-Kruger effect on full display.

[@GeistView]

Imagine someone go's back into time 3000 years to the Greeks and had a debate and they said "You can't make lightning and because you can't make lightning Zeus is the creator of all lightning.

[@MrAicex3000]

That other poor guy cant get a word in edge wise

[@colesunwood1656]

“Thats literally what you believe” i love when people tell me what I believe

[@mrhades652]

I don't have no dog in the fight, but that Victor guy made an absolute clown of not only himself, but the position he was arguing. An absolute wally show.

[@danbush8437]

Peterson: I would like to have a conversation. Generation: NO U

[@hymenpierce]

What kind of person would answer the simple question what is life by asking I don't know, what is life? Jordan Peterson my friend. I can almost guarantee this tool follows him. It also explains him being a pseudo intellectual. I also detect some Kent Hovind.

[@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1]

That was painful........

[@crackshotscreenprinting]

no, speaking of car parts and putting one together... there are less than 1% of human body parts represented in car parts. they are much less complex than a human being.

[@Soapy-chan]

"you believe strawman" "I don't believe the thing I believe" This is the difference between a dishonest theist and honest anyone else.

[@vulcaestus]

I made it 9 minutes in before i had to rage quit on petersons behalf 😅

[@johanahonen8627]

Wow..just wow

[@happygilmore8321]

What's the callers TikTok so i can like the comments that are bullying them

[@paddyofurniture3988]

Victor Nieves is an intellectual fruit fly.

[@Tenebris_Sint]

YEC: “Life can’t come from non-life.” also… “God created Adam from dirt.”

[@cajohnson130]

Right. Something can't come from nothing... accept when God does it. They insert god and it makes it ok but argue against themselves.

[@colesunwood1656]

In the end its up to them to prove to you God exists, its crazy how they cant grasp their head around it

[@Robeebert]

That guy is coping so hard, holy shit. "then what is it...?" He's having a meltdown live in 4k

[@AlexPBenton]

“Your next line is…” - -Joseph Joestar- Planet Peterson

[@Jo-JoandTaffy]

A lost boy.

[@themandoLAUREN]

He is an example of needs less “Jesus”, and more attention in all science classes.

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

That drippy theist got totally ruined, as do they all!

[@AsixA6]

Just point out that there’s not a single atom nor molecule in their entire body that is alive yet, they are.

[@NevilleBamshu23]

Well that's me goin bsck to bed with a headache..fml..this geeza is a divvy..😊

[@TackeMatty]

Does the third guy ever get to just say one thing? Lol.

[@suelane3628]

Poor sausage. He has been brain washed.

[@beachedwhale2695]

Are these people real?

[@Bunny99s]

I don''t want to say the caller is at the top of mount stupid because he actually admits that he doesn't know here and there. Lets call it "bipolar dunning kruger"? :) So he admits he doesn't have a clue about the fundamentals but at the same time claims he has all the answers because of "common knowledge". He tries to explain what life is by a dichotomy between a rock and a human. That's the reach of his understanding of life. He wants his world view simple: good, bad or life, non-life or right, wrong. He only thinks in absolutes and compares the most extreme opposite sides against each other. He seems to be quite young, but I don't have much hope that his attitude towards knowledge would drastically change in the future. I got shivers down my spine thinking about the fact that people like this are allowed to vote ( at least at some point ).

[@monodescarado]

What an absolute child

[@WetDoggo]

2:26 "seems like a miracle to ME" well, there's your problem... you don't understand it, but you can't possibly not understand something, so it must be a miracle 😁 yea nah mate... it's just not a miracle

[@LanceHall]

Amazing.

[@Andy_Babb]

IS THAT ANTON PETROV IN THE CONVERSATION?!? I love Anton!

[@bloodyshrine1369]

Faulty Analogy

[@AfonsoCL]

This was painful. How is he so mind-numbingly dumb?

[@GrimAngel01100]

Let me be pedantic, ACTUALLY, it means to be focused on minor details and rules, or ones own academic knowledge. Now you can say his applies, and science deniers love to use this complaint, because I'm a sense yes, we are concerned withvhe details, rules, and academia, however isnt proper to say they are being pedantic, because the discussion IS on topics REQUIRE carefully wording, precision, and involves terms with specific meanings. Complaining about semantics and pedantry is a tactic to AVOID being held accountable for this like equivocation fallacies. That's not comparable to just making random and trivial corrections and distinctions, or just trying to show off your academic gusto.

[@drickaway]

I do not like this victor Nieves fellow. He speaks with unearned assurance and smugness.

[@fletch0t]

Guy just came to troll. Not argue or debate.

[@Robbie_the_Rabbit]

Victor is the worst!

[@accerone7545]

This is actually infuriating to watch, its like 5 minutes of deflecting, the fact that other guy continues it says alot

[@jim7831]

What is Life is a George Harrison song 👍

[@Weirdaman]

Where'd found this dude? XD

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Move to Canada. You'll get a good teaching position and you won't have to put up with so much anti science crap!

[@SkepticCyclist]

With three people all talking at the same time, it is difficult to follow what is going on

[@Pootycat8359]

SMART broadcast engineers & recording engineers (like me!) know how to properly adjust an audio processor, or if one is not available, to "ride gain"! 😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛😛

[@lazybones1746]

Definition of life a little after 22:32

[@Nekotaku_TV]

Probably is trolling.

[@timber2lease]

why is this channel still in my queue :/

[@OceanusHelios]

It is your god making you have a brain and wanting you to use it. Look at it that way. Maybe it is a "message."

[@Brascofarian]

Pedantism! lmao!

[@kaseysheridan3863]

Is this actually victor??

[@jordanmoran916]

I don't mind Victor on most things but this was so hard to listen to.

[@colesunwood1656]

Hey he’s right!!! It is illogical for a human to come from a rock!

[@wessla]

Noone comes from a rock, but even if that was the case. Why is that illogical?

[@hydrogenesis7395]

yes strawmans are illogical. dont make them

[@colesunwood1656]

@@hydrogenesis7395 my boy, the guest literally said we come from a rock

[@hydrogenesis7395]

@@colesunwood1656 that's called making a strawman argument, no one who actually understands how evolution and abiogenesis work says we "came from a rock" only thiests trying to misrepresent it

[@colesunwood1656]

@@hydrogenesis7395 have you never heard of a concept called sarcasm, im literally just using his argument against him

[@cthackers]

you act like a child sometimes

[@killer660]

just when the other person is acting like a child, which honestly, I wish he wouldn't stoop to their level of childish argument but that seems to be his content for the most part.

[@pizzurron36]

He can act however he wants when he’s talking to absolute mouthbreathers

[@johnbynaker1910]

Sounds like you lost an argument to him as well

[@planetpeterson2824]

When the other guest starts off by meowing like a cat and straw manning then I tend to shift gears to match their energy.

[@kristopherfisher2517]

his last name sums everything up

[@powercheese2580]

These new generation tiktok debate-bro theists are so fuckin cringe

[@DaviniaHill]

Every metaphor falls apart because he keeps trying to describe non-natural processes as an argument against natural processes.