*MUST SEE* - How To Gain FPS & Performance With New AI Traffic

MUST SEE - How To Gain FPS & Performance With New AI Traffic | Reducing your CPU load in MSFS 2020

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Easyjetsimpilot

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@tigrou37 3 ай бұрын

I hope FLSTL will include it as an option in their installer. It should allow to downgrade or upgrade easily!

@melb00m21 3 ай бұрын

This whole procedure is a myth that will result in no fps gain unless you’re badly VRAM constrained. AI traffic is super heavy on the CPU the way it is implemented in MSFS, but textures are loaded into the GPU memory. The only thing that really helps is reducing the maximum amount of traffic.

@nakaron5465 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. There are already some tutorials about this topic. But as long as your system is CPU limited, reducing the texture quality will not increase your fps. However reducing the texture quality will reduce the size of your traffic folder and this will reduce the loading time of your MSFS.

@denziiey 2 ай бұрын

@nakaron5465 very true. I have a 7950X3D and RTX4090 and I upped the rendering resolution and no fps change. I lowered texture synthesis and nothing.ian anisotropic filtering is also negligible. People need to know the sim will always be cpu limited because the current game engine doesn't do multi threading. I'm hoping the new one scales better over a 16 core cpu

@pilotguy27 2 ай бұрын

Agree. The biggest hit on FPS when dealing with traffic, is the traffic injector itself. FSLTL has since its inception suffered from some serious memory leaks with its injector. Since moving over to BATC, have really not had issues with FPS degrading over time. I think the biggest difference is having the traffic injector in the cloud. Its not the planes that is causing the FPS loss. All of these supposed fixes to increase FPS are just plain snake oil. These types of tweaks have been recommended since FS 98.....

@trin162 2 ай бұрын

I literally just tried it out with the 1024 option from 4092. No AI traffic at EGLL with a 4080 and i5-13600K gets me on average 48FPS, low of 46 and a high of 52 depending on where I pan the camera in external view. With BeyondATC or the FSLTL injector, I used to get 34 FPS before AI began to move and 25FPS when the AI began to do it's thing. After the downgrade to 1024...not a damn difference. Should have scrolled down on this comment section before I even bothered.

@najeejohnson3658 2 ай бұрын

Traffic at max works fine for me. I guess depends on your pc type of your gaming on pc.

@glenndefrancesch3557 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Gavin worked well. Best thing for me was that it free up some space on my drive which is always a bonus

@enriqueosuna 2 ай бұрын

Hello. I get this error wheb trying to run the CMD: "DIRECT3D TEXCONV INSTALLATION WAS NOT DETECTED. DIRECT3D TEXCONV IS REQUIRED BY THE TEXTURE OPTIMIZER."

@LeoStixx86 2 ай бұрын

Yea Im getting the same thing. Followed his step to the T

@mrflandoor Ай бұрын

@@LeoStixx86 You have to copy textconv.exe inside the bin/cli folder

@Jadro_4070 2 ай бұрын

Resolution was the problem (1080 vs 1024) not he backslash. Thx for the video!

@mgking777 2 ай бұрын

This is great and saves so much storage space. I don't even notice much difference in quality with 1080p unless you get really close.

@stevebassett3709 2 ай бұрын

This worked a treat. Thanks for sharing

@chavdapavan 3 ай бұрын

I was just at LEAL installing and testing FSLTL and this video dropped. What a coincidence!

@mercianeightseven 2 ай бұрын

Best tutorial video of this process, thanks,. All other video's i have followed have missed out steps or important points out. Thanks again!

@dronesim 2 ай бұрын

I actually have been using this improvement for a couple of weeks now and I was wondering "why is Gavin not talking about this?" - and now here it is 😀 And guys, even if you don't get FPS improvement, you are saving more than 30GB of storage. This alone is an advantage for me personally. Thanks Gavin

@Inupajuk1981 Ай бұрын

Haha amazing! I give cop a coffee some day here in Nuuk lol

@liveincork 3 ай бұрын

OCD is easier to treat than FPS optimiser disorder.

@SJT-d3s 2 ай бұрын

Hi all, it really works, thank you very much

@Morst434 4 күн бұрын

Followed two times and downscaler the fsltl folder. But No trafffic models shows up in vatsim despite a lot of traffic.

@alexgoodfellow6785 2 ай бұрын

Can I suggest keeping a backup of the optimized FSLTL folder on a back up drive for any future installs

@alexgoodfellow6785 2 ай бұрын

@@trin162 backup the optimized 4.1gb read the post

@trin162 2 ай бұрын

@@alexgoodfellow6785 That was retarded on my part. Very rare for me hence my deletion and my apology. Sorry man. Time to log off lol smh

@andrewculley8524 2 ай бұрын

I was just thinking of reducing the amount of AI traffic in FSLTL options when it starts.

@erikhany4486 3 ай бұрын

Great job!! Thanx a lot. I will give it a try. 🙏

@Puretajugon 20 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I have tried both 1024 and 2048 resizing but with Beyond ATC it doesn't seem to work, only native resolutions, the whole process is done correctly but it doesn't work with BATC. Does anyone have a solution?

@slizzy418 10 күн бұрын

They removed support for it on their dumb app totally uncalled for move and typical of them.

@ChosVirtualFlights 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this find! Downgrading them to 2048 resolution as we speak. :)

@trin162 2 ай бұрын

I've gone straight to 1024. Usually got 46-52 depending on where the external camera is looking at EGLL (4080xi% 13 600k/High Settings). Will report back to you with my results post this downgrade. If the livery textures are too jarring, will try out your choice after. This may be the last fix to fix all stuttering and FPS killing issues at major hubs :D

@streamer6646 3 ай бұрын

60 ai aircrafts? So reducing to 2k delivers 120k free memory? That's nothing. Why should that improve fps? I tested 1k and 2k with fsltl and saw no influence on fps. Nothing.

@KhopDi Ай бұрын

@Easyjetsimpilot so I use FSLTL compression and all my livery are 1k so my file size became 4gb in community folder, but when I run the game and in content manger were all addons are there it shows 40gb.

@Easyjetsimpilot Ай бұрын

It must be most likely showing the size of the initial installation. You can check the actual size in windows explorer.

@Nimiic 2 ай бұрын

I gave it a try, but when the process is finished, the flstl-traffic-base-OPTIMIZED folder is still 40 GB? I downscaled to 1024 but nothing happened...

@taketotheskies6950 2 ай бұрын

I'm trying to follow the tutorial on optimizing FSLTL, but when I run the command I keep getting this message DIRECT3D TEXCONV INSTALLATION WAS NOT DETECTED. DIRECT3D TEXCONV IS REQUIRED BY THE TEXTURE OPTIMIZER. I did everything correctly so not sure why I'm getting this.

@tompsu9536 3 ай бұрын

I've noticed that I've gained fps massively with fsltl after the latest update. I'm running rtx 4080 so a very good gpu but not the best. Before the latest update I've had around 20-40 fps using ultra settings and fsltl in let's say inibuilds LAX or Heathrow with fenix a320. Today I flew from LAX and I was very surprised that my fps was around 60-70 fps. And that's with inibuilds LAX and fenix a320 which are known to be quite performance hitters. I also tested it with Aerosoft FRA and inibuilds Heathrow. I actually have no clue how has this happened cuz I haven't changed any settings nor have I done this quality compression you showed. Nonetheless I'm very happy lol. Also my fsltl settings are quite high. I don't even use any other software that is supposed to help to gain fps. And yes, I've checked that my settings are still the same and haven't changed.

@AntiSociety100 2 ай бұрын

same here! it was very odd lol, I went to check my graphics settings convinced they were lowered.

@iancumming3708 2 ай бұрын

I have followed your procedure to the letter, but get this error DIRECT3D TEXCONV WAS NOT DETECTED, I copied in the compressonator/bin/CLI as advised but no matter what i try still same message returns

@iancumming3708 2 ай бұрын

disregard this comment please. I got it working, uninstalled all components & started a fresh. All working & file size reduced. Thank you.

@perpetualomega 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this, bit too close to 2024 for me to mess with the sim. but i hope it continues into 2024.

@djjoost1 3 ай бұрын

It saves space, but fps not so much on my system. 2048 is the lowest you should go to keep nice visuals in the ai models. This tool you can also use on scenery in your community folder. So some heavy fps airports with 4 or 8k textures can profit if you reduce it to 2k or 1k. With fsltl latest models I noticed better fps already without reducing the textures. Using this with the latest fshud (v2) works really well. And I must say fshud v2 at the moment I prefer above beyondatc with traffic injection.

@doktorjansson 3 ай бұрын

Is the traffic injection included in BeyondATC already?

@samdapro 2 ай бұрын

@@doktorjansson Yes but you need the supporters' pack for it as it opens the experimental version, which is $30 separately or $60 altogether with the base pack.

@doktorjansson 2 ай бұрын

@@samdaproOk. Problem is I bought BATC early and I don’t remember getting a supporters option. I can’t see that they offer an upgrade. Not a nice way to treat their early buyers. For the time being I also think it is to buggy for serious use. Tried it again yesterday after reading your post and got very poor vectoring into Helsinki airport. They cleared me down to 2300 ft. When already maintaining that it asked me to maintain 4000 ft. Thereafter it instructed me to turn left to a heading that was 45 degrees to my right. It gives unrealistically complicated approach indtructions often including directs to a waypoint that is already the active waypoint in the STAR. Unnecessarily confusing. “Descend 4000 ft. Cleared Direct to X (next waypoint in STAR). When above X turn left to 68 degrees. Cleared ILS runway 15. QNH 993.”. Tall order when operating a two pilot cockpit by yourself. It often does not understand readbacks (strangely much worse during ground ops). It has very very great potential, but for me it is not there yet.

@slizzy418 10 күн бұрын

@@doktorjansson I bought the app and it’s garboooge.. to say the least modified version of the Microsoft ATC with a heavier version of FSLTL F every content creator, who hyped to this stupid product

@antoniopettini9503 2 ай бұрын

thank you very interesting and useful. I have the fsltl in another internal PC driver (thus not directly in the communty folder) and I manage that by MS Linker. Can I use the procedure you showed?

@eraser2727 2 ай бұрын

To compress the textures or any other file on the hard drive you can also use the windows built-in tool. It shrinks my MSFS addon folder from 530GB to 300GB. The FSLTL base folder goes from 40.7 to 12.5gb, without any loss of texture quality.

@MOMAZOSPATO 2 ай бұрын

Please tell me how to do that!!!!

@eraser2727 2 ай бұрын

@@MOMAZOSPATO You just right click the folder you want to compress, go into properties -> advanced properties, and tick the third box that says compress files to safe disc space.

@harpsinuno 3 ай бұрын

Is this better than AIG? AIG is always getting updates and has much more airliners and models, as well as general aviation. What is your opinion?

@Easyjetsimpilot 3 ай бұрын

I've not used AIG for quite a while now as I found other models to be more FPS friendly & easier to install.

@harpsinuno 3 ай бұрын

@@Easyjetsimpilot The only thing I notice is that after some meters far away we can not see the wheels.

@trionons 3 ай бұрын

Yeah , AIG has way way more liveries and didn`t kill FPS as FSLTL but has worse sound and visual (lights/strobe, smoke) effects. But anyway I switched from FSLTL to AIG

@777tripplesevent7luv 2 ай бұрын

I‘m wondering; does beyond atc recognize fsltl and fstraffic models at the same time resulting in less white paint aircraft or is it choosing one or the other library?

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

Yes it does.

@elbapino6531 2 ай бұрын

Hey friend, since the last update of the fenix, i can't fil a flightplan in the mcdu, all the time i got "INVALID F-PLN UPLINK", how to fix that please !?

@sanket007hzb 2 ай бұрын

May be due to outdated airac cycle, try updating it to latest one

@elbapino6531 2 ай бұрын

@@sanket007hzb thks sir

@johnboy8846 2 ай бұрын

excellent video Gav thank you

@Old_Git_Gaming 3 ай бұрын

you can save time by copying the file location from file explorer and the copy the link in to CMD all you need to is click in the address bar of the folder in a blank area highlight the address then select copy then head to CMD and then in the source section past saves having to move files about

@melb00m21 3 ай бұрын

You can also just go to the desired folder in Explorer and type „cmd“ into the location bar, which will open a command prompt in exactly that folder…

@Easyjetsimpilot 3 ай бұрын

Great tip

@stoogeuk8088 3 ай бұрын

so im following along - got to the section on the cmd prompt. It allowed me to do the cd documents but when i did the cd texture it says cannot find the path specified - also 2nd question you said you would type the long text in the description but i do not see that in there

@Easyjetsimpilot 3 ай бұрын

It is in the video description... File Path:- "C:/Users/YOURNAME/Documents/fsltl-traffic-base"

@stoogeuk8088 3 ай бұрын

@@Easyjetsimpilot man im stupid i was lookin at the source source folder image resolution line etc :D also my commnuity folder is not in packages as im on steam version not sure if that makes any difference. the system is converting as we speak thanks for this hopefully should see a benefit.

@DarrenPilot 2 ай бұрын

Would this texture reduction also work on the AIG folder (I know AIG has a setting for 2k textures but I mean the folder itself)

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

Yes it would.

@DarrenPilot 2 ай бұрын

@@Easyjetsimpilot Perfect - thank you :) - i will prob only reduce them to 2K but that should still make a nice difference :)

@grayrd 2 ай бұрын

followed your procedure but get this error DIRECT3D TEXCONV WAS NOT DETECTED, I copied in the compressonator/bin/CLI as advised

@Nimiic 2 ай бұрын

Same me. I can't understand...

@erikhany4486 2 ай бұрын

I got the same message. But i did discover that was because I just moved the file with my mouse. Once I used cut and then paste, it worked. So don’t move the file with your mouse.

@Nimiic 2 ай бұрын

You are right! Using CTRL + X and then CTRL + V solved the issue. The problem now is that, after the process, the texture folder size is still 40 GB instead of 4GB. And I downscaled to 1024....

@erikhany4486 2 ай бұрын

@@Nimiic You know that you now have TWO fsltl folders right? Are both of them 40 Gig?

@Nimiic 2 ай бұрын

@@erikhany4486 problem solved: I didn't lunch Texture Converter with administrator rights

@capthmw 3 ай бұрын

Great video!

@thatflightsimguy 3 ай бұрын

FSLTL 1k textures are the way to go. 34GB FSTLTL file down to 4GB size file. +5-6fps improvement at busy airports

@MOMAZOSPATO 2 ай бұрын

How you do that

@doors2manual 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Gavin - this is a really cool tip especially for people that have 8GB VRAM cards. I assume I can do the same for FS Traffic textures as well?

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

I haven tried it yet - but I was going to, yes. Reduce all those textures and get loads more space and performance gains.

@MOMAZOSPATO 2 ай бұрын

You’re blessed I got 4gb vram

@enriqueosuna 2 ай бұрын

Hi, Does it help when using FSLTL through Beyond ATC Experimental App?

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

@@enriqueosuna yes as the models are reduced in size.

@KBNOtaku 2 ай бұрын

does this also work with the FS Traffic fleet from justflight?

@shihabahmed9802 2 ай бұрын

Hi Gavin. Is it the same steps with FS traffic?

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

Yes.

@esimprochannel 2 ай бұрын

Great video👍

@thatflightsimguy 3 ай бұрын

I would add to this if flying VATSIM go into vpilot >performance >model matching and untick everything except for FSLTL. You need to do this everytime you install a new plane on fs2020. I was flying on VATSIM for months suffering FPS loss because it was model matching fenix a320s everytime I flew 😅

@tj0cktj0ck 2 ай бұрын

would be great if the flybywire installer had this option when installing without doing the hassle of converting them yourself.

@CrimsonDawn63 2 ай бұрын

Will this work for traffic injected by BATC?

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

Yes as it affects the AI models.

@CrimsonDawn63 2 ай бұрын

@Easyjetsimpilot that’s a game changer, because right now BATC’s traffic as busy airports is a FPS killer

@adakushe8161 2 ай бұрын

Is there any big quality difference and is it worth it?

@trin162 2 ай бұрын

Is there any chance you're able to watch the video and find out for yourself and can you manage that?

@trionons 2 ай бұрын

Try AIG traffic. It loads the system less than FSLTL. But to be honest it has slightly worse graphic and sound effects and also more complicated to install but for somebody the increase of FPS is worth it

@DarrenPilot 2 ай бұрын

Does the texture reduction also work on the AIG folder also?

@trionons 2 ай бұрын

@@DarrenPilot There is no need to compress AIG traffic. It is already compressed well

@OGZification 2 ай бұрын

I think I'm the only one getting the "failed to launch JVM" error.

@OGZification 2 ай бұрын

Is there any suggestion?😅

@lauritamel9703 2 ай бұрын

Como se puede hacer en Beyond atc?

@f_-oy4jb 3 ай бұрын

Lol are you connected to the dev of fshud? This morning I texted him exact The same procedzre for probably posting it somewhere so that everyone can improve his Performance with maybe more Traffic then before.

@skyybirds 2 ай бұрын

Thanks

@olegsyzovenko1079 2 ай бұрын

did everything step by step, CMD says: Error: Could not find or load main class com.izeon.prepar3d.textures.TextureOptimizer Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.izeon.prepar3d.textures.TextureOptimizer

@aviationfin3456 3 ай бұрын

Hiya,I recently bought the fenix a320. (Month ago) and when I apply power to taxi take off etc it won’t move at ll or it’ll take ages, any idea how this could happen? Thanks!

@My320Sim 3 ай бұрын

If it’s a fully loaded Airbus it will be very heavy and require a lot of power, but check your brakes are released, park brake off, and in the efb that the chocks and GPU are removed

@dreamliner5112 2 ай бұрын

Sound like there is something weird with your controller settings. Shouldn’t take that long even the aircraft is heavy. Your throttle is correct calibrated via EFB?

@aviationfin3456 2 ай бұрын

@@dreamliner5112 yep…

@aviationfin3456 2 ай бұрын

@@My320Sim was never heavy!

@pm110978 2 ай бұрын

Want to save a lot of FPS. Just don’t run FSLTL 👍

@OrganAviator 3 ай бұрын

First comment!! How noticeable is the degradation in visual quality?

@Easyjetsimpilot 3 ай бұрын

See the video 👀👌

@OrganAviator 3 ай бұрын

@@Easyjetsimpilot I have, it’s just sometime watching a recording on a phone isn’t totally reflective of what it looks like in reality

@peterregan8691 3 ай бұрын

Try it and see what you think. The lower res liveries are created and your originals are also saved so it’s simple to restore the originals if you need to. I reduced to 2k textures, gained performance, freed up A LOT of storage and am happy with the results.

@evanblakeman8175 3 ай бұрын

I Tried mine at 1k and they were very blurry if you looked at them. I did it at 2k and it works just the same and they look just as good if they were 4k

@odin3066 2 ай бұрын

The FPS difference doesn't seem big enough for the effort

@Not_Lewis 3 ай бұрын

Why does model matching kill FPS anyway? Seems like it shouldn't be such a hog

@Easyjetsimpilot 3 ай бұрын

It's not the model matching per se, but the actual CPU usage in all the traffic around.

@IslandSimPilot 2 ай бұрын

I did this video 3 weeks ago.

@OneAviation 2 ай бұрын

Yess

@MrSunlander 3 ай бұрын

I have the three files on my E drive. What will I type other than 'cd'? Wish FSLTL just made a light livery option available.

@Easyjetsimpilot 2 ай бұрын

You'd need to access the E drive by typing E:\ (I think... Might need Google to help you there)

@twarog6825 2 ай бұрын

Tbh with the pc’s of today, you shouldn’t need to gain fps. It should just be a fact.

@umbreonpokemon8190 3 ай бұрын

more nonsense to download/run in the background. I dont understand how almost in 2025 we as users still need to do this tweaking BS

@1956guillermo 3 ай бұрын

You don't have to do anything, just be thankful to guys like Gavin that gives us tips and recommendations! Take it or leave it!

@umbreonpokemon8190 3 ай бұрын

@@1956guillermo shut up. Gavin isnt a dev or creator for any of these addons. I get its "his" video but you dont need to bootlick in the comments. Ive been simming since FS2002. This is not progressive AT ALL. Im sick of tweaking and you should be too.

@cjmillsnun 3 ай бұрын

I'm hoping that FS2024 will support multithreading better. That's the problem, MSFS is main thread bound. Put too much in there and it maxes out whilst the rest of the CPU sits idle.