Mustang quarter panel extension fitment. Brooklyn Pony part 26

There's always fitment issues with the quarter and extension. Here's how I fixed it. There may be other ways, but this worked the best for me.
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[@PapiDoesIt]

You, sir, are a craftsman! Your work is definitely better than the factory. I am old enough to remember the cars when they were new, and the panels didn't fit as well as what you've done. Remember, they cranked out Mustangs as fast as they could. They didn't have time for finess.

[@SMIFFYYYYY]

I just used this exact technique. Even for amateur me it worked great. Your videos gave me the confidence to tackle my project and it is honestly going great. Thanks for sharing these.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

David Smith awesome. Glad to hear that.

[@rcguygarage]

Don't quite understand ANY thumbs down on ANY of your videos. You explain things in REAL terms using REAL methods and as stated "this is my way of the repair" if you'd rather use another that's your choice. GREAT work as usual. 👍

[@billy.s.warner]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@thruitallauto2538]

The ones thumbing down is the ones who don’t want to take there time an do it right. There the ones you see at car shows with crappy cars you can tell they’ve took short cuts

[@DavidMoralee]

Can't wait to see this complete. Spent this evening watching your stuff, impressive and helpful.

[@nickanderson3440]

Awesome video Barry. Love the fitment videos. Everyone just posts the easy parts of these restorations. Really appreciate you taking the time to create these. Now create more. Ha

[@cecil6711]

Great attention to the details makes the pony proud. Awesome work. :-)

[@HarleyBikerDud3]

I love the pride and time you put in all your projects

[@kensendelofski3761]

Contour lines and round area's are more difficult, but when your all done and it looks like new. It really makes you feel good. You think to yourself, " I made that " thanks for the video enjoyed it.

[@mnwoodshop3877]

As always I find your videos interesting and very informative.As I’ve said before and I’ll say it again,your knowledge in resolving an issue that you encounter I find amazing.As always thanks for another great video.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. One great video, step by step, pony coming along, thanks Barry.

[@bernierezny8156]

Time and patience is what sets a sharp looking car from a heap. Thanks again

[@TheRaulr151]

Man your videos are just greatness! Learn a lot. Especially the work it takes to do it right!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Turned out great Barry. I always enjoy your vids. My friend is restoring a 65 and is having these same issues. This vid will be very helpful.

[@appelk1172]

Nice work progressing. Have to agree with the filler vs. steel on the quarter. Whenever something strikes that edge, you're going to have damage, no matter what you use. The filler is easier to work with, so it makes sense.

[@thruitallauto2538]

What I say when I look down a car that’s been done right is.man that car is straight. Don’t know what you did to get it there but I see how straight it is. Good work

[@JohnJohnson-ol4ij]

on my 65 convertible and my 66 hardtop, the fender extensions had a black neoprene edging on the extension, they are both factor original. I am the first owner of the 66 coupe and the second owner of the 65 convertible

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Yes. They all had them from the factory. Many people remove them for a clean line.

[@ericmartin923]

Hello Mr Jo !! when I think you're part of a car cut in 2 ... :), you are an artist thousand respects eric from France

[@gregernst3769]

Barry Thanks for another well done informative detail oriented video. I'm like others where I don't understand the thumbs down but to each their own I suppose .I will be doing this exact process on my car when I get to the finish work portion of the project. Thanks again

[@73turbopinto]

I had this same problem on a 68 Convt QTs with the top peak I added a 1/8 welding rod to the top peak after grinding to peak a splash of duraglass had a nice peak with very little filler.

[@seventy4jns855]

Great work there as usual. Nothing wrong with a skim of filler for detailing when the metalwork underneath is as near as perfect as you’ll get. 👍🏻

[@harryheaton1185]

Thank you....glad to see another build video....

[@Kalkaekie]

Very skilled work !!

[@canadianmarauder1923]

Neat trick cutting the fender and moving things back a bit. More good sanding tips too

[@tectalabyss]

Hello Barry. Outstanding has always. Love the out takes at the end. : ) Has always I Liked,Shared and added to Playlists. All my best. Bobby

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Thanks Bobby.

[@kadesam1]

Watching from Holland, another great video >> Keep it up

[@joeharrington595]

Good work! You make it look so easy, but it isn't. Thanks for sharing

[@billy.s.warner]

The only reason i can see for a thumbs down is making me realize all the things i want to re-do on my 66 convertible... Dang it!! Can't give enough thumbs up on your work. I hope the owner lets you do a final finished test drive kinda thing.

[@realtaur]

Ironman Loves you and your work!

[@MustangConnection1]

Nice fix Barry!

[@10223220]

As always awesome work 👍

[@leonardgilbreath9004]

Barry your work's speaks for itself your attention to detail and how you fox small problems say's it all thumbs up buddy.

[@josebriceno97]

Awesome skills. Wish I had some of that. 👍

[@RJ-ds6zo]

Thank you for doing this!

[@rubenfelix6452]

Thanks jo im happy with that👌🏼

[@gregworkshop5713]

hi glad to see you did not put bog there. it look a loot better wen you ad steal .the car is looking good.

I just went through this on my 69 Mustang. The match up between the extensions and the quarter panels was terrible and that's with all the original panels and extensions. So I did something sort of similar to what you did. I pulled the quarter extensions back away from the edge of the quarter panel so they matched up to the deck lid better and then I used about an 1/8" of Dyna-Glass to add material back to the outside of the extensions so they match the quarter panel contour. Dyna-Glass should have decent rigidity and durability to use this way. Then I finish it with a skim coat of Rage Ultra. We'll see how it holds up. I think it should do just fine.

[@aserta]

Whoa, now that's a big difference between those rear panels.

[@douglasknutsen]

Barry , I would have welded an 1/8 " rod at the peak with 1/16 " rods on both sides, then using a quality metal filler to blend it all in. I also like using a blast cabinet to to clean up small pieces

[@bigbird2100]

Barry the best way to remove old paint etc is to use the 2 inch scotchbrite disc's it removes the paint doesn't leave dig marks and you can get a great finish for paint prep great video 👍

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Thanks Sean. I have access to literally thousands of these 2" discs from my main job. All slightly used, but free. The scothchbrite discs are great as you say, but they're all used up before I can have them.

[@bigbird2100]

@@JoDaddysGarage I try not throw old disc's as they are softened up shape and worn grit are very useful and the diameter gets worn are good for tight spaces great video

[@waynejohnson1855]

Pc7 epoxy is the best repair for the mustang quarter panel extension I have restored numerous mustang over the years.

[@youtruckrek5121]

Thanks for sharing

[@restorationshop]

I note that you never mentioned the use of a seal in the extension which may take up a bit of that difference to the deck lid. I was surprised to find the exact same body filler corrections used on my 66 coupe, but I found too much filler was used and filled in some of the contours of the extension on mine when only a slight touch is needed to smooth out the factory imperfections. It is a really nice piece to handle and shape though isn't it? These corners as well as the headlight buckets have such beautiful styling not seen in other cars.

[@edweigman9683]

I'm having the same issue, the quarter fit well everywhere else.

[@jerrysgaragethemoneypit2028]

Now I understand

[@PapaVrooom]

Weld a piece of wire up there for the height and then fill it up...

[@rickydyess8869]

The filler panel never fit perfect when new. You always have to make them fit unless you want it to be like factory. Door gaps hood gaps deck lid gaps were not perfect either. Even side to side everything is different. Nobody notices on them when new but bring it for repair and they see everything. Even now new cars aren't perfect especially US built cars. Imports have closer tolerance gaps. Your doing a great job. Ive did that on many old cars i build for customers. 👌

[@nefaurora]

JoDaddy, Did you know that there is a Rubber Trim Cushion that presses into the channel into the inner the end of the End cap...... I don't see it being used in your "Fitment" mock-ups... Great work.. Tony K. , 1966 Sprint 200 Registry, MCA#70001

[@JoDaddysGarage]

This is not a concours car, and I prefer the smooth look. When I install the extensions, I shim them to just make contact, and not compress against the paint.

[@btoad303]

Love your videos. Just sat down over the last two days and watch from part 1 to part 26. Question- have you ever used a metal infused filler. I've seen it at various auto stores.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I've used it. Sparingly. I don't remember if it was a good or bad experience. It's been quite a while since I tried it.

[@thomasbraden2450]

Great job Barry, need to do the final cleanup as well on my extensions as well now. Got them lined up great but will probably end up cutting a slit in the quarter panel to get the edges to line up properly. Does those extensions have any type of rubber gasket between the quarter and the extension? My 73 extensions call for a rubber gasket/seal between them and the quarter. Thanks as always for posting these videos, they really help us out.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

It would have had a gasket. I don't like them. Looks out of place.

[@ethanmilgram2327]

Great video, again. Have you checked out one of those SCT grinders from Eastwood? I bought one and stripped the paint off the trunk lid in no time flat. Low heat and very efficient. Gary

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I haven't. I'll check it out.

[@elijahhall3207]

Hi Barry, yes you do explain the best. When will Brooklyn pony 27 come out.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Working on it.

[@3xzena]

Hey Barry, another great video. Glad to see you in a t shirt in the middle of winter. I guess the heater is doing you some good lol. Just 2 questions. 1 will you be using the seals on the extensions on final assembly? 2 Did you break any welds between the end cap on the quarter or the trunk corner when you cut and re welded the top of the quarter? Thanks again for all the great information.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

It's been really nice to have heat. Only difficulty is having fresh air, or venting out dust. Small problem overall. I do not plan to use the seals/gaskets. They just don't look right to me. I did not break any welds, but I made sure to cut deep enough to allow for movement.

[@3xzena]

Thanks. I noticed the same issue with the gap between the extension and the trunk lid on my project. I think it will be a good fix for me. Wish you were around 10 years ago when I started this resurrection.

[@davebrittain9216]

Jo Daddy's Garage I'm Happy With That! It's a great T shirt slogan. Barry I was wondering if there is any need for the gasket between the extension and the panel? Another good video by the way and thumbs up for sure.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

It could happen. I had to comment about it. There's really no need for the gasket. I like to shim the extension so it's just making contact.

[@joaquinsablan5406]

I really like your procedure in getting it done. Now when you paint the car, would you paint the extension separately from the rear panel ,then bolt them back together ones their painted? Thanks.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Check out the short video I just posted. That will show how I do it.

[@r_mac67fstbck41]

looking good bud! I'm a little nervous about using roloc wheels on my quarter extentions and headlight buckets. I am going to try soda blasting them. Have you ever tried this? I tried using paint stripper but I swear my oem paint laughs at the stripper. it pulls the pigment out but leaves the hardened layer of paint so to say.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I have not used a soda blaster, but I would say that should do the job very well.

[@ohmygodsocool]

Amazing stuff as always Your trunk gutters look really clean- is that because you salvaged/ replaced the QPs or does anyone offer those? Worried I’m going to have to fabricate the middle 6 inches or so

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I replaced the whole car... basically.

[@jackw3990]

Great video Barry. Keep them coming. Why such a difference in the angle on the panels?

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I can only say the tooling is likely worn out.

[@donthompson2188]

My 66 end caps have a rubber gasket where they mate to the 1/4 panel. It maintains about a 1/64" gap when the bolts are tight. Does the 68 have those?

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I believe it does. I don’t use them. I will make shims if needed to create a near zero gap.

[@Timbo428CJ]

Really good stuff Barry, I'll definitely be using your ideas when I get to that point on my wifes 65. Have some questions though... When mig welding has it been your experience that the setting on the machines are close? I've been getting a lot of blow through trying to weld old to new metal. I see your settings are like 2/2, I'm using an Eastwood Mig 135, 3 setting on the arc volts & 3.5 on the feed. I keep turning it down, but it doesn't look like it's penetrating really well. Thanks for the videos!

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Thanks Tim. Machines can vary, just like operator technique. I know what works for me and this machine. It sounds like you have plenty of heat. Might slow the feed a little so it has time to get hot. Hard to say without hands on it.

[@joebloeu]

@@JoDaddysGarage I've had the same problems,have a kempi welder and you set by metal thickness so I just notch it down a bit,I had heard that the old metal on the mustangs wasn't the best and this is part of the reason,true or not don't know but quite possible.

[@guizadeixan]

nice work, but i dont understand, are you doing the edge with filler? sorry about my question, im trying to learn. thanks

[@JoDaddysGarage]

The top edge? Yes. The shape is wring, and there's little that can be done to make it look right.

[@robertmiller2720]

Did you use the rubber seals between the quarters and extensions?

[@JoDaddysGarage]

I do not plan to. They stick out, and never look right.

[@robertmiller2720]

@@JoDaddysGarage Ok. Just put quarters on my '68 and was considering whether or not to use the new ones I ordered. I guess their main purpose is to help keep water out of the extensions, but wondered if they had some sort of isolation purpose as well.

[@chipjohnson5552]

I put them on my 66 but I see how it can be much cleaner without them.

[@aserta]

It's though, but don't forget, comparable to old bondo, the modern stuff is also pliable. Bondo would chip off before it would give.

[@donthompson2188]

Doesn’t Windex have silicates that will interfere with adhesion?

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Haven't had any issues yet.

[@wadechandler5153]

Hey Barry; might seem like a odd question, but what gloves are you using? Do you buy them by weight or mil thickness or material type. You are doing some pretty aggressive work with these and I don't see them ripping out on you.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

They're pretty tough. I tend to get a lot of use from them, and I will re-use them many times as long as they don't tear. www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/astro-grip-4868/tools---equipment-16488/shop-garage-16868/safety-equipment-16892/gloves-16894/nitrile-gloves-19431/60844c25fac3/sas-orange-nitrile-glove/66573/4710039?manufacturer=true&pos=1

[@greifill]

The fitment between the quarter panels and the extensions on my ´67 coupe is really poor. The quarter panels and extensions are factory originals but appear like they were made in two different countries.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

That's a pretty common issue.

[@joewilder]

I would think you could weld something like coat hanger wire on that top ridge before you cover it with body filler.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Could.

[@joewilder]

@@JoDaddysGarage Sorry, I left my comment while watching the beginning of the video. I couldn't imagine how to get a straight line without a guide of some kind. Looks good though.

[@mragentblue]

Barry...……...check out Roger at...….MrFireman164 showing the problems with (in a few episodes ago) the e-coat on a floorpan for his Camaro...……..You two guys are the BEST on the old garage gang network!

[@crazypainter57]

please don't take me wrong but i happen to be a old ...old school body man and i see you wasting a lot time yes for accuracy all the finish up with plastic should be done with hand tools but power tools are much faster and less wear and tear on the old body....and why didn't you cut that seam to the rear ext. while the plastic was soft,i always have a thin blade pairing knife when working plastic...... sorry but going that slow would get me fired......with out cutting on quality of coarse

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Good ideas. Luckily, I don't do this for a living. This is a side thing for me. I would think most people doing this work on their own aren't worried about time either. But those are valid points. Thanks for commenting.

[@charlesleake930]

always the black magic hand signs : (

[@leonardgilbreath9004]

Sorry fix.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

lol. I see now. You were replying to your previous comment. This one makes it look negative...

[@moesizlac2596]

So, metal work or filler work? Filler is a good idea if you want fast results that can be fine tuned with less effort. When money and time are short, in the real world, this is what gets done. But, metal-working that edge is what most people watching this want, especially if they have dreamed of having the time and money and space to do it themselves. Watching these types of videos is all about wish- fulfillment. Watching youtube videos is NOT about reality. Watching youtube is NOT about getting informed; It's about fantasy. It's about the viewer getting satisfaction that is just not possible for them in real life. They are living their fantasy through you and looking for the satisfaction they cannot get on their own. And they need to believe you, and believe in you to maintain that fantasy. For every person who might actually use what you show, there are 100,000 who will never remember anything but the joy or disappointment or frustration or satisfaction from having watched you do it. You, all youtubers, are entertainers. Of your viewers, 1 in 100,000 might learn something. 1 in a million might use what they learn. So the vast majority of the rest of us are just looking to feel better. To dream of something that is just out of reach. The vast majority of us watching you don't have the space or the money or the time or the skill. We just want that feeling of satisfaction we can't get at our shitty jobs and in our down-sized lives. You insult the vast (and silent) majority of us when you disappoint us with such an unsatisfying choice. This was our fantasy and you spoiled it with body filler. We watched you. All those episodes, all those satisfying details. We trusted you! And now you have cheated us! None of us would ever buy that car now. And none of us would ever want to believe that we would do this. YES, in reality, we might all fail even more tragically. But we don't want to see it. We don't want to watch someone do that. We want to applaud your epic and heroic struggle for our own selfish satisfaction! We crave it like a drug. And we craved it from you. At least we used to. But now you cut the purity with plastic filler. And all you have to do is fix it. Make it right. Gouge out that shit and get welding! If you do this we (the vast silent majority) will weep with tears of joy. For you will be the one in a billion who understands what you are to us, especially to all of us who could never find the words to say all this and just mash the "thumbs down" button instead. This is what it is to be an entertainer, to step out in front of a faceless and empoverished mass of suffering human life. If you step forth into that light you had better be tough and heroic and sensitive to our selfish and painfull yearning. We need you to be better than us so we can feel hope. If you can't maintain that (and not many can), we'll turn on you with an anonymous and cruel contempt. This is why you have so many down votes on this video.

[@JoDaddysGarage]

Moe, Thank you for the comment. I'm sorry you're disappointed with this video. You make compelling points, and I commend you for that. Few will take the time to type out what they may be feeling. I understand your opinions, but I also have difficulty with considering myself an entertainer. That would devalue those that are actual entertainers in this vast universe. Implying that people are here just for the fantasy escape from their daily lives also implies I have an obligation to provide that for them. I guess I don't feel the same way. I try to make it a reality for the viewers. I try to make my videos in such a way that everyone can learn something from them. I try to take into consideration that not all have the same experience, or tools at hand. I make every effort to keep my videos "clean" so no one has to worry about what words I may use. I spend hours recording, editing, and like this, responding. I understand the frustration of unanswered questions. I have helped countless people with emails, texts, and actual phone calls. I have talked with people in other countries to help them solve problems. I doubt there are many other youtubers that actually do all that. Or at most they have a hired hand or two to handle it. Perhaps the fantasy of perfection has been created by misleading reality shows. They rarely show their actual work, and for good reason. They are in it for the profits. They are skimming the surface for the production limits required by the show. In this case, I stand by my choice. Again, thank you for your comment. Take care, Barry

[@3xzena]

I strongly disagree with the statements made by this viewer. Not looking to get into a fruitless pissing match but I see youtube and in particular this channel as a chance to make my dreams a reality. I come here like many others to get the information and inspiration I need to tackle the jobs I would ootherwise not have the confidence for. Not only is Barry knowledgeable he is in this for all the right reasons. Its not about making a buck or becoming a famouse entertainer. To me people like him are rare and priceless. I guess it comes down to choice. You can be a dreamer or make dreams reality. I have learned to plumb, lay tile for my dream shower and even fix my dryer among other things all because of people like Barry and KZbin. Filler has a place and he uses it the way it should be used. I have been to fabrication shops where panels are made by hand by masters of the trade. They finish with filler as well. Keep em coming Barry. I am sure there have been many costly mistakes made to get you where you are today that might have slowed us or even stopped some from completing their projects. Because you pass this knowledge on to your followers we can avoid this pain and bring us closer to a finished product.

[@moesizlac2596]

@@3xzena I take it all back. The millions viewers are not part of the equation on this channel. 21000 subs are probably all car builders. And all of these car builders would rather see how to do bondo just right, because who wants to learn about metal fabrication on a metal fabrication project. 21000-1

[@scotthebert3433]

Barry once again it goes to show your a class act by your response to this comment. Not all of us would have the tools and more so skill to to weld additional metal on and grind back off to form the crease. That would take a lot of time and patience. Keep up the good work. Wish I was heading down there for the super bowl , I would love to meet you and pick your brain on my mustang project. In the meantime I will continue to learn from your videos. Keep them coming, I can’t wait to see it finished.