Mustang VMP Odin VS Whipple 3.0 Supercharger: Head To Head Comparison part 1

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Zander13

Zander13

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@zakhoch
@zakhoch 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see the weight difference. Can't wait for the follow-up testing!
@excelmaestro9798
@excelmaestro9798 3 жыл бұрын
Went from a VMP GEN2R to the Gen 5 3L. Both blowers are great but the Gen5 hits sooo hard when you dig into boost and you can actually put your hand on it after making a pull. I imagine that Odin is going to make a butt ton of power though. Both are great IMHO!
@alexmiller6133
@alexmiller6133 Жыл бұрын
Gen2r is old a blower compared to gen 5 whipple
@bondobird
@bondobird 3 жыл бұрын
This test was already done at VMP...only few know about it because the Odin something like 150hp down vs the Whipple. This was at over 1,000whp however. Really spinning them up. The Whipple did have the cobra jet intercooler though. Summery...a Whipple car came in, they tested, swapped blowers then did more dyno testing, customer said put the Whipple back on so it left with a Whipple 😁
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Cobra jet adds like 150hp. So minus the cobra jet, the two would be more close. I imagine VMP could come up with their own big lid cobra jet style if they wanted.
@goodnoughperformance
@goodnoughperformance 3 жыл бұрын
This is 100% not true. I am the one that dyno'd this car, so I would know.
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@goodnoughperformance 💪💪💪
@bondobird
@bondobird 3 жыл бұрын
@@goodnoughperformance okay, then enlighten us about Zach’s car.
@goodnoughperformance
@goodnoughperformance 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobird not going to get into it in a youtube comment thread. If you want facts email me.
@victorxavier9977
@victorxavier9977 3 жыл бұрын
I'd go Whipple for my money! Good to see you posting again and BTW I contacted CM for a seat delete using your code, thx!
@backwoods5oh
@backwoods5oh 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you're going for 1000+ then odin is the way to go bigger isn't always better until you really push the blower... so for me imo for a 750-800 whp build I would pick odin
@mattjones1378
@mattjones1378 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, too much horsepower leads to problems and headaches and more dollars, like the 10 speed transmission
@Jamie-ww3yz
@Jamie-ww3yz 3 жыл бұрын
Ported whipple for me...
@kingkrushkiller
@kingkrushkiller 3 жыл бұрын
strange comparison, going from a stock stage 2 whipple? to a vmp odin port and polish with e85 full fuel system?
@TLW1022
@TLW1022 3 жыл бұрын
Not a True Head to Head test
@thatvibemusic
@thatvibemusic Жыл бұрын
well considering the whole vmp kit costs less than just the whipple, price to price its more than fair
@mustangfan2453
@mustangfan2453 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone brave enough to compare these two 💪💪💪
@helicoptermadness311
@helicoptermadness311 3 жыл бұрын
I live a few hrs from vmp. They are awesome people. They did an amazing job. I'm happy. Still a fan of Whipple. Both great blowers. Know people with both.
@scottmorgan2239
@scottmorgan2239 3 жыл бұрын
The VMP is a magnussen supercharger. They’ve been around just about as long as the whipple. They’ve both been top tier performers since their inceptions. In my opinion, I’d take a whipple over the VMP because a twin screw is the most efficient form of supercharging. TVS is still based on a Roots style blower (which is slightly different than a twin screw) but with more efficiency. That said, neither blower should be taken lightly on the street or strip because they are both deadly to go against (competition wise). A twin screw is just my personal preference.
@50_sally
@50_sally 2 жыл бұрын
You are so knowledgeable can you please explain how the vmp works as far as internally compared to a twin screw?
@lexustech48
@lexustech48 Жыл бұрын
@@50_sally Basically, the VMP "Roots" blower doesnt technically generate boost. It generates a massive amount of airflow between the rotors and the intake valve(s) such that the air in that space pressurizes forming "boost" pressure. The Whipple Twin Screw actually generates pressurized air (boost) between the 2 supercharger screws and that pressurized air charge fills the volume between the rotors and intake valve(s).
@RipitRon
@RipitRon 3 жыл бұрын
The Whipple is a much better looking Blower for sure, And for my $ its whipple all day long............VMP just doesnt have the Heritage of Whipple.
@jrjhanson
@jrjhanson 3 жыл бұрын
Great content and looking forward to the test results, man! If possible, show the difference in IAT2 temps, including after repeated pulls. Obviously hp/torque numbers are good, but the difference in cooling would be great to see as well. Once again, thanks for doing this comparison.
@joshodin19
@joshodin19 3 жыл бұрын
Ive never been in a Whipple car yet, but I'll tell you the Odin hits real hard! I only went with it because I could get it so much faster and I'm very pleased with my choice! No question!
@derekaragon970
@derekaragon970 2 жыл бұрын
Same here and damm performance wise this car is a absolute monster on 11 psi I was beating hellcats making 900 crank Hp
@ImVaiiderr
@ImVaiiderr 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekaragon970 any issues with heat soak or any other issues?
@derekaragon970
@derekaragon970 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImVaiiderr no heat soak the car is running mid 10’s on 100 octane at 6000 ft elevation DA over 8000
@TheWigg
@TheWigg Жыл бұрын
much love to the guys at VMP for taking an existing mag blower and IMPROVING it, however, they are competing at a price point on par with Whipple, and it feels like its Harley Davidson vs Victory. If they were to try to play in an area of price $1000-$1500 less than whipple I would imagine these would be FLYING off the shelves. This coming from a previous consumer of the original VMP 2.3 TVS on my 08 GT500. 650whp to the tires and $2000 less than Kenne Belll. Via the reason I chose VMP over KB
@ssfouryou
@ssfouryou 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Whipple, 3.0 to a 2.65.. The VMP is basically a Magnussen blower but very nice because it has been ported. The Whipple has proven performance and the horsepower upside is massive. The Whipple looks better under the hood. Of course is just my opinion. Looking forward to seeing your car again Alex, been too long.
@09shelby15
@09shelby15 2 жыл бұрын
The tvs is a better blower period. Better rotor housing better rotor makes more hp in a small package its more efficient its just a better blower and tvs hit way harder then twin screws down low and maintain that all the way to redline.
@mkb1690
@mkb1690 4 ай бұрын
Yeah peak horsepower isn't everything. I've heard you really need to pulley down on the Whipple to make it bite like a TVS blower. It does have more potential than a TVS, but it's also a bigger blower. If you're chasing a peak horsepower, Whipple is better, but usable horsepower in the rev range that's not 800+ whp, the TVS is probably the way to go
@tracybasler7387
@tracybasler7387 3 жыл бұрын
As a whipple owner i will say it comes down to the tune. with the right tune 93 oct 1/4 mile in the 10s on no prep street tires.
@ResnicksRvingJourney
@ResnicksRvingJourney 3 жыл бұрын
Whipple is what I’m looking at!
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Whipple for me. The gen 5 W was designed to fit under the '18 and up mustang hood.
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
So, the VMP doesn't?
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA I don't know. My SC fits right against the bottom of the hood. We will see...
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
@@thereissomecoolstuff it does fit, it’s my car lol ;)
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA I thought it did. I thought I'd seen them before. Zander mentioned him buying his hood.
@midnight347
@midnight347 3 жыл бұрын
The odin was designed for 18 up cars too lol. They just started using them on pre 18 cars.
@joshuaslawncarellc
@joshuaslawncarellc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you see you back Alex! God bless
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Same to you 🙏
@lovebassets868
@lovebassets868 3 жыл бұрын
If someone came out with a SC that was $2k cheaper than these, they would rule the SC world through sales volume. Of course quality would need to be atleast OK.
@SixStringRacer
@SixStringRacer 3 жыл бұрын
Wait he has a $9k Whipple and replaces with a $9k vmp. Why? Makes no sense. What did I miss?
@lhv8
@lhv8 3 жыл бұрын
Bet you Sponsor $
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Not sponsored. He paid for it
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 3 жыл бұрын
he was manipulated into believing the VMP is much better for some reason and yes its absolutely a mistake. Theres not going to be a big enough diff for this to be worth it.
@waynebollentin989
@waynebollentin989 3 жыл бұрын
@Donchanli11 In this situation yes but if I'm being honest and you're starting from N/A with nothing that's a different conversation and going to be a matter of opinion. Which everyone has a theory and most think theirs is absolute. The truth is regardless if you pick whipple, VMP, Kennybell, Procharger, Vortech, good turbo or nitrous they all will work if the combination is right. That's the key to any good build. To many people get caught up in brands and power adder choices rather than who's behind the build and helping them. People pick things for different reasons. What kind of racing, trans, tire that's going to be ran, suspension, budget, etc. Also remember it's not how much you can make on a dyno that matters. It's how much you can get to the ground and how quickly you can bring it all in that matters. If you're really looking for some guidance let me know. Take care.
@Not-a-bot222
@Not-a-bot222 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynebollentin989 NA track build. Poor mans GT4, what kind of suspension would you go for with a budget or 3,000.00. I’ve been considering the Ford performance track handling pack and using the remaining budget on brakes and other parts but haven’t seen much on whether it’s good enough compared to some BMR or something. What’s your opinion?
@jeffdouglass5107
@jeffdouglass5107 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great comparison, I am on the fence between the 2, so now ill follow this to the end and then pull the trigger. Awesome content!!
@BrailsfordsRides
@BrailsfordsRides 3 жыл бұрын
Tell Ken my offer still stands, I'll take whichever one he doesn't want haha
@benniewalters1171
@benniewalters1171 3 жыл бұрын
The whipple will cool better, the Odin decreased surface area and increased volume, but when it comes to cooling you want surface area, it's why your cars radiator isn't just a 3 gallon tank with fins.... its low volume high surface area
@agustinpuente6383
@agustinpuente6383 3 жыл бұрын
The fact the Odin needs to be ported to compete with a unopened whipple settles the debate already 😬
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not totally true. Stangmode went 8s with basic unported 6 rib Odin and only the basic twin jet throttle body stock motor . That1320chick with built motor went high 8s too with a whipple. My point is I think the two blowers, unported, are more closely matched than ppl realize or are afraid to admit. I think they are both great. Flip a coin honestly
@codymiller1994
@codymiller1994 3 жыл бұрын
The Whipple is also bigger than the VMP. A ported 2.65L TVS vs an unported 3L twin screw is a pretty fair comparison. I think VMP is currently working on a 3.1L TVS as well.
@douglasm3310
@douglasm3310 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zander13Productions and Lund went 7.9s with the whipple. This is a downgrade
@chuckharter5954
@chuckharter5954 3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasm3310 Dwayne Hickman and Micheal ciborowski have been 7.7s with VMP...
@douglasm3310
@douglasm3310 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckharter5954 on an actual street car? or we talking racecars on stand alone ecus and straight axels we could easily bring up the 2000hp monsters in nmra renegade running whipple blowers but I figured this was more of a stock ecu still IRS debate
@mavricxx
@mavricxx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really curious to see a weight comparison and which one cools better.
@Gdimina
@Gdimina 11 ай бұрын
I have a 426 HC challenger witj a Maggy 2650 with al the support and fore triple pump e-85 mskes 1100 whp and still has room for more power so not maxed out. I have a ZL1 1e witj the exorcist build going with the gen 5 3 liter whipple for the blower because of tbe new cooling upgrades. Almost went maggy 2650r but the cooling system on tbe new whipple sold me on it. Be done in a couple of weeks. Staying with 93 pump so only looking for 959-1000 crank tops so won’t be killing it either so should be mad efficient
@disngager
@disngager 9 ай бұрын
When I got my pulley swapped stage 3 phase 2 in a 2016 it rocked. Its sitting around 900 and is the most fun mustang I have had. My buddy had a Whipple and I use to whoop him. From the factory mine was at only 745 and his Whipple was at 850 I use to smoke him bc of the torque and power the whole time. Whipple's st only get their top HP at their highest RPMS.
@LongMoneyShaun
@LongMoneyShaun 2 жыл бұрын
If the Odin made that much of a difference over the whipple there would be information about it on the internet
@aporras71
@aporras71 3 жыл бұрын
He made the right choice. The vmp odin system is absolutely a beast
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
💪
@milleniallgt9715
@milleniallgt9715 3 жыл бұрын
Whipple all day baby. Plus I need that 50 state legal as vmp is not 50 state legal.
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
actually VMP is Carb Pending! Waiting on their paperwork!
@milleniallgt9715
@milleniallgt9715 3 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA cool, hopefully it would be 50 state legal too!
@coyoteslugger3936
@coyoteslugger3936 3 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA good luck, I've heard that before, when I called about two yrs ago regarding there VMP R, they said the same pending. It's not supercharger, its the tune that need CARB approval.
@troyfrazier4558
@troyfrazier4558 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to stay with the whipple.
@vincep.4002
@vincep.4002 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting my Odin put on by vmp in April. Can't wait!
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you like it
@onetrickpony5884
@onetrickpony5884 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking at going with the Odin at VMP on my 19 PP2 but they never answered me back on email so I said fuck it and went with the Vortech V3 through Steeda.
@vincep.4002
@vincep.4002 3 жыл бұрын
@@onetrickpony5884 vmp got back to me pretty quickly. How do you like the vortech?
@onetrickpony5884
@onetrickpony5884 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincep.4002 It’s getting done at the end of April
@micahbrown8259
@micahbrown8259 3 жыл бұрын
Who is doing the install what was installation cost?
@ericwood84
@ericwood84 3 жыл бұрын
WHIPPLE FTW! Stage 2 whipple VS full race version VMP isn't exactly a fair comparison but understand needed to even the playing field 😂 jk jk. Great video looking forward to seeing the rest of this series.
@02autogt
@02autogt 3 жыл бұрын
2.65 vs 3.0 isn't exactly apples to apples either... I'd take either by the way...
@giena0
@giena0 3 жыл бұрын
I have vmp odin it great I love it crazy power
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
🏎
@avgjoe1836
@avgjoe1836 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting swap. Wanting to see the difference. Love them chin whiskers z. Great vid bro.
@bustinyanutz4195
@bustinyanutz4195 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion VMP are the guys to go with for FORD power
@marcusbarnes5929
@marcusbarnes5929 2 жыл бұрын
Why not go twin turbo? For the superchargers You could just set up and do a volumetric air flow test on the 2 blowers using the same pully at different RPMS and measure the air flow produced L/minute. More air produced/pumped through blower/L/min = more power potential.
@CanadianCruisin
@CanadianCruisin 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. One day I hope to get odin slapped onto my own 2019.
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
Well when your ready please let me know! #1 VMP dealer ;)
@CanadianCruisin
@CanadianCruisin 3 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA when the time comes I will let you know 💪
@1slow5.03
@1slow5.03 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the vmp. I like the down low power from tvs. The Whipple makes more power top end. Acts like a centrifical supercharger. Thats why i prefer the vmp
@Reecesavage-Alwayswin
@Reecesavage-Alwayswin 3 жыл бұрын
Odin has done Mamba well however i would rather have it on a Gt350, mach 1 or a 6r80 car. The 10r80 has issues handling higher boost levels with these blowers. The stock MT82 is out of the question just get a t56 or stage 2 ben calimer mt82.
@50_sally
@50_sally 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean the 1080 has issues handling boost? I’m looking to get a whipple or vmp for my 10 speed 3rd gen coyote build
@stevenPounder-p4b
@stevenPounder-p4b Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered what the effect of plenum volume/how quickly the air has to make the 180 degree turn has to do with anything. I know air being pushed by a compressor doesn’t care as much air being drawn in ect. Would be neat to see though.
@slyr1
@slyr1 2 жыл бұрын
Whipple for the WIN WHIPPLE LOOKS AWESOME
@bustinyanutz4195
@bustinyanutz4195 3 жыл бұрын
They need to have the same driver in each car when they do the comparison
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Stratted843
@Stratted843 3 жыл бұрын
I’d even say same suspension with wheels and tires but that’s asking a lot lol
@thomashagwood5050
@thomashagwood5050 3 жыл бұрын
KZbinr Stangmode has a Oden on one of his mustangs
@cjcat27
@cjcat27 3 ай бұрын
@Zander13 was there ever a follow up video to this?
@Stupidboi1
@Stupidboi1 2 жыл бұрын
Whipple and Kenny Bell have the most experience with mustangs. VMP is mostly a GM focused shop.
@williamharris9066
@williamharris9066 3 жыл бұрын
Is the VMS a roots style? Assuming so because it’s ported. Twin screw whipped is a better design.
@hermannweinzierl5731
@hermannweinzierl5731 8 ай бұрын
i'm very interessted in the temperature of the bossted air
@Rocca500
@Rocca500 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool. Looking forward to the outcome
@codymiller1994
@codymiller1994 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the fastest Whipple Gen 5 Coyote is, but Stangmode is running high 8’s with his VMP Odin.
@douglasm3310
@douglasm3310 3 жыл бұрын
7.9s for whipple Lund racing did it.
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
True but no one is running 7s in a whipple unless built motor and mods to the blower like cobra jet and extreme weight reduction. Stangmode is pretty much a full weight car and has the basic 6 rib kit with entry level throttle body and still went 8s. Very impressive either way
@douglasm3310
@douglasm3310 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zander13Productions your guys over at lethal went 8.3s on a full weight car stock motor come on now lol
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasm3310 that’s awesome
@zachbrown7699
@zachbrown7699 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so some that really needs to be said on the stock pulleys and stock blower of the Whipple the car makes 875 to the wheel on 10lbs and it’s a 3.0L vs the odins 2.65 however with the whipple there’s a lot more head room to increase power by doing different pulleys and porting and polishing that blower as well it’s got more capability from what I have heard and seen then the VMP not knocking VMP they’re great and the supercharger is phenomenal but stock VS stock they’re the same price but the whipple has way more power to it then the VMP
@jameshows5419
@jameshows5419 3 жыл бұрын
Zander , it’s great seeing you back on U Tube videos again . Any hint at all about your car as to when we will see it again ? I hope to see Both you and Ken at the track soon . J BULLITT 40
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Car hopefully coming back end of month
@BossMan302
@BossMan302 3 жыл бұрын
VMP blower tuned by Lund can’t go wrong.
@markhall3434
@markhall3434 Жыл бұрын
What about Kenne Bell? They make some big claims, and maybe a tad cheaper. 500 ft. Lbs just off idle is my goal.. probably never go over 6500 RPM. With manual is the 3.31 an optimum ratio? I know my 3.73 trackpack ratio has to go. Would be nice to wind out 1st to maybe 50 MPH at least w/o big drama.
@ferrarikiller4921
@ferrarikiller4921 5 ай бұрын
Ngl can that fit into a 2015?
@nunziorose1749
@nunziorose1749 3 жыл бұрын
The one with the loudest blower whind. Lol
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
😉
@midnight347
@midnight347 3 жыл бұрын
Loud whine means its more inefficient. I get that it sounds cool but i dont understand the obsession with whine lol.
@donellealexandre2732
@donellealexandre2732 3 жыл бұрын
Whipple 3.0 for my 71 Chevy convertible LS motor 6.2
@derekm5212
@derekm5212 3 жыл бұрын
@zander13 thoughts on the RPM Act?
@chrisreynolds6152
@chrisreynolds6152 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the follow-up video?
@cindyarnold6333
@cindyarnold6333 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody seems to think it is un unfair comparison because the VMP is a ported blower, what about the fact that the Whipple is a 3.0 blower compared to the VMP 2.65 volume blower. Does the VMP ported version even get to 3.0 in volume. From my research, the Whipple will be considerably lower on torque than the Whipple. Torque = fun and a big smile, for the street it's VMP all the way.
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Whipple is still the champ for racing IMO
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 3 жыл бұрын
For pump 93 I like the 2650tvs rotor pack.. But the Odin, they told me, IS ported stock ( then you can go up stages) the unported version of the Odin is called Loki.... So really just send the whipple out to Kong and let her bump.... Also wbipple due to their relationship with Ford has access to their Dyno ect and they develop their own custom OS to get around things like Enleanment built into the 18up depending on PCM strategy you can only defeat by removing the "Dyno plug"... Be interesting to see the tuners perspective starting with that custom OS and tuning it vs some of the stock strategies with the VMP.... A warranty can be bought for the Whipple and has paid out before...see Coyote Car Guy...they have a MUCH more developed racing program....VMP has excellent customer service and support their blowers for a long time.... On a street strip it's a toss up, I just cant see a max effort fully ported Jokers or Kong Whipple get taken out by an Odin with similar load outs...its IATs would also be higher because rotor speed higher and belt slip ect ect ect..... Clean sheet probably doesn't matter Stangmode has been fast on Odin, and 1000s have been fast on Whipple... This seems weird unless he just couldn't get the 60ft he wanted without adding a stall.... The test Ken mentions would be awesome and also max on 93.......
@ryanfreeman5987
@ryanfreeman5987 2 жыл бұрын
So can I ask the direct question...Which is better? Same mods just different blowers!!! Which one would you suggest?? I know alot of people really do not want to answer such questions etc but since you have had both and I have a GEN3R blower I'm wondering should I switch??
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a gen 3R. I don’t see the point in switching honestly
@thejohnnerparty
@thejohnnerparty 3 жыл бұрын
For me, function trumps form. At the end of the day, overall performance and reliability win the race. :-)
@ericyirka684
@ericyirka684 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt hear you. Has this not been done yet?
@jasonetter9171
@jasonetter9171 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. IC brick size has very little to do with how well they cool.
@cklochaklipira11769
@cklochaklipira11769 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the part 2 video?
@mikezenda1340
@mikezenda1340 3 жыл бұрын
What about a KB Lc. 3.2 also a top blower?
@larryboydjr7461
@larryboydjr7461 3 жыл бұрын
Nice hopefully it will be a great upgrade. If he would like to donate the old one to me I can drive down for the installation
@ssfouryou
@ssfouryou 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah Ken bought the Whipple
@stepside2839
@stepside2839 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see an overlap of the two on dyno for hp & torque at All RPMs Must show IATs as well
@kgthegreatone943
@kgthegreatone943 3 жыл бұрын
Are you getting rid of the turbo chargers
@bardstables8909
@bardstables8909 3 жыл бұрын
I like them both, but if I had to choose right this minute I'd take the Whipple.
@reocejacobs1259
@reocejacobs1259 11 ай бұрын
Where's part two?
@jdmrider
@jdmrider 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a little biased towards whipple. I’m from where they’re from. Gotta support home grown.
@ON_THREE
@ON_THREE 3 жыл бұрын
What compression is he running on his car?
@braedenwages8699
@braedenwages8699 2 жыл бұрын
anyone else think upchurch is holding the camera at the begenning
@angreygt3508
@angreygt3508 3 жыл бұрын
Is he being sponsored and getting it for free? Thats the only reason anyone would take a larger, more efficient twin screw and replace it with a smaller, less efficient roots. Hell have to run more boost to make the same power. He MIGHT get a little bit harder initial hit for torque, but otherwise both blowers will make more power than most people can use, the Whipple (twin screw) is just the superior product. But I understand if he's getting free chicken out of the deal, otherwise it's a downgrade
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
He was not sponsored 🤷
@tlascu213
@tlascu213 3 жыл бұрын
Whats going on, I have a 20 gt pp2 6mt with now about 2k on it, im looking to supercharge if you guys are interested in the job/video content, let me know the approx price range and build info. I appreciate it, thanks.
@littlekid9019
@littlekid9019 Жыл бұрын
What’s up man! I just had a whipple stage 2, kooks headers, oil pump gears and it dyno 700hp-610 whp with a whipple tune, in my 21 mach 1. I was told the whipple tune is very conservative. Does this sound right??
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions Жыл бұрын
Correct. I’d recommend wengerd performance
@littlekid9019
@littlekid9019 Жыл бұрын
@@Zander13Productions thank you sir
@uae5.06
@uae5.06 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting the comparison.. I hope whipple win ..sound amazing
@threexxxphat
@threexxxphat 3 жыл бұрын
What kinda numbers you getting between them both ?
@PatrickScottlxw
@PatrickScottlxw 3 жыл бұрын
Stangmode Odin kit 8.90s turbos are still faster
@bernieowens4360
@bernieowens4360 3 жыл бұрын
Stagmode has a lot of passes on his and has gone through a trans or three. His Odin kit has room for a lot faster passes!!
@charleshenson4183
@charleshenson4183 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but everyday driveability lacks. If you're drag racing alot maybe turbos are better. I'm building 2 cars,one supercharged & one turbocharged as I like them both.
@PatrickScottlxw
@PatrickScottlxw 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernieowens4360 pretty sure stangmodes Odin isn't even ported yet just has a small pulley on it. Not sure if its maxed out pulley wise or not
@PatrickScottlxw
@PatrickScottlxw 3 жыл бұрын
@@charleshenson4183 I know multiple people with turbo cars they have no issues with drivability thats usually in the tune.
@charleshenson4183
@charleshenson4183 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickScottlxw It's the power delivery that I'm referring too
@bryondrill9239
@bryondrill9239 2 жыл бұрын
I would take the twin screw! Much less paracitic. Roots from what I read are not the way to go. I have my 2020 6.2l trail boss getting a 3.0 whipple installed!
@davidforsman5973
@davidforsman5973 3 жыл бұрын
I'd go with the VMP
@DiablitoSpeedz
@DiablitoSpeedz 3 жыл бұрын
Dope video man !!
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@DiablitoSpeedz
@DiablitoSpeedz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zander13Productions 👍👍
@token_hard2824
@token_hard2824 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the oden has a louder whine , I've heard the whipple isn't that roudy 🤷🏾‍♂️
@antoine6515
@antoine6515 3 жыл бұрын
VMP 🤟🏾
@TheModAddict
@TheModAddict 3 жыл бұрын
You got more on the Supra?
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
I can possibly lol
@shaner1200
@shaner1200 3 жыл бұрын
If i had the $$ and was in the market for one, i'd go VMP cause i can get it now. Not into waiting who knows how long. Would give me an excuse to drive to FL and drive it back too! When are we going to get an update on your car Zander?
@hooyabaaa2
@hooyabaaa2 3 жыл бұрын
VERY strange to see. It´s like a downgrade somewhat... Both are very good options, but the Whipple 3.0 on full tilt can make a LOT more, or can run a bit ''loose''... Dont understand that choice...
@markbevilacqua3415
@markbevilacqua3415 3 жыл бұрын
Little confused here. Whipple was on the car, why not add the fuel system and dyno it then swap to the Odin. But even with that the motor is stock i don't think you will ever push these 2 blowers to their true potential. That 3.0L can easily make over 1300whp! How will you show a fair comparison? Was the Odin free???
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA
@MODERNMUSCLEPERFORMANCEMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
VMP wasn't free actually.. The whipple was! And Im not looking to make 1300whp. 1000 is enough for me! And I dont like crappy customer service!
@markbevilacqua3415
@markbevilacqua3415 3 жыл бұрын
1000 is awesome power. I think both blowers are great, you can't go wrong with either...But the video is a VS's!! So how will this be determined is my only question?
@shaunmarkel2595
@shaunmarkel2595 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be shocked if the vmp outperforms the whipple even with the port. mustang lifestyle had a vmp on his gt500 and had all kinds of problems with heat soak where he switched over to whipple and made way more power
@midnight347
@midnight347 3 жыл бұрын
He didnt have problems with heat soak because of the vmp blower it was an intercooler issue stop spreading false bullshit. He barely even tested the vmp never seen what it could really do and he switched over because hes part of the bigger is better louder is better crowd. The 3.8 really didnt perform that far above the vmp to be honest with you considering its 3.8 vs 2.65 it picked up 100 whp or so but alot of that gain was from the bigger intake he went with there would have been gains with that intake on the vmp blower too he was at 1100+ rwhp on the vmp and was running a jlt 123 is known to not support much above 800 rwhp. That intake was holding the vmp back. Had both blowers had the large intake there would have been even less difference between them. Those heat soak problems was directly caused by intercooler issues not the fact he was running that tvs. He never even attempted to dial in the setup he immediately switched to the big blower thinking its this end all be all blower and well....it makes alot of power but i think those gigantic blowers have more problems than anything this has been well known for years. The gen3r made well over 1200 rwhp on lunds built gt500 it can make plenty of power too and have a way more basass powerband overall. They arent heat magnets any more than a whipple is.
@midnight347
@midnight347 3 жыл бұрын
And this is 2.65 vs 3.0 not 3.8...i wouldnt be shocked at all if it outperforms that 3.0. Itll be every bit as fast if not faster watch and see.
@shaunmarkel2595
@shaunmarkel2595 3 жыл бұрын
@@midnight347 very doubtful and you do realize the intercooler sits right underneath the blower on the car that cools the blower making it a heat soak issue
@nissanbrown6144
@nissanbrown6144 3 жыл бұрын
Turbo. First whipple second vmp third.
@GoFastNation
@GoFastNation 3 жыл бұрын
I am going whipple for my gen 2.
@paulhudgins5120
@paulhudgins5120 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see these type comparisons videos, my choice would be the Whipple, but the VMP Odin is impressive setup on Stangmode 2018 GT, definitely will be interesting on the performance aspects between these two. Can't wait to see more of this.
@helicoptermadness311
@helicoptermadness311 3 жыл бұрын
Love my vmp
@AndrewBaker302
@AndrewBaker302 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Whipple going to get ported too?
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
🤷
@AndrewBaker302
@AndrewBaker302 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zander13Productions Seems logical if you want an apples to apples comparison
@dannyMCDelight
@dannyMCDelight 3 жыл бұрын
price of whipple versus Odin?
@Zander13Productions
@Zander13Productions 3 жыл бұрын
About the same
@Rome_504
@Rome_504 3 жыл бұрын
I’d go whipple with a stage 3 port polish
@alexanderiaartis6627
@alexanderiaartis6627 3 жыл бұрын
if you sell the whipple let me know
@gashthrasher_8976
@gashthrasher_8976 3 жыл бұрын
Those blowers are fantastic but nope... Twin turbos all the way baby
@coyoteslugger3936
@coyoteslugger3936 3 жыл бұрын
You better have a stall converter.
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