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[@diegofontenelle1162]

Best session I have watched for sure. Many useful advices, great discussion and pov from the player. Keep it coming BSJ

[@rorschachmaximus9976]

35:02 "dont worry, Jankins hasnt neither!" i had to laugh so hard Greate video, as lich player absolutly insane input. Thx

[@lifenote1943]

yeah so mean : (

[@Raphael.P.]

since BSJ worked so hard on himself, his coaching sessions reached another level. Very nice content

[@no3ironman11100]

Stopped watching BSJ for months, now back to it and I'm finding his content even better than before.

[@SakiJura]

Most tactile and useful session I've seen so far. More of this please! :)

[@DanKaschel]

Tactful?

[@SakiJura]

@@DanKaschel tactful yes sorry I don't know why I used tactile lol

[@Meyveda]

What a great coaching session) this map control thing is great concept to talk about as many feed right there.

[@EsElChulo93]

I just wanna say its great to see the Replays again on the channel. Ty and keep it up

[@franciscogarcia8797]

Amazing analysis, very well explained. Sometimes it's hard to just know what to think during the game, and this is what you should be thinking about

[@SpHxalen31]

It would be really interesting to hear an update on how this "thinking abiut how much of the map the enemies are farming" apply with the recent map expansion.

[@HamyHaxxor]

Thanks for the link to this! Lich isnt even in my support pool, will need to give it a few runs this weekend.

[@Maccelerate]

As a 3-4k support this video is triggering my PTSD on the hundreds of games my team controls 75% of the map, I ping and type/talk "control the rosh pit", then my team gets impatient and proceed to feed at the enemy tier 2 mid tower.

[@sensai1983]

Mate, I'm much lower MMR and you just killed my illusions that some day things might be better...

[@dumbfailurekms]

its a bummer that you were forced to play support at birth and have no option/free will to play mid or carry. unlucky

[@Cobusftwmahoniez]

i'm stuck 1600 mmr playing pos 5 / 4

[@lionelperez-]

Even divine 3 still do that shit😂

[@bass5445]

@@lionelperez- Can confirm @5.2k this shit happens all the time

[@bozhidartonev2853]

most useful dota2 content in the entire internet. Keep it up BSJ you a legend

[@chasingmypinnacle]

well done BSJ, very underrated, you should be at 500k to 1 mill subs.

[@kevorkyijan118]

I remember when there was just one courier for the entire team, and now you can play more relaxed by fkying over a bunch of resources...but back then was all about micro-managing skills and rotations.

[@AchinthyaHemachandra]

The thumbnail makes it look like Lich is malding at me like "This is why your MMR hasn't changed "

[@nethrace7284]

Kek

[@mitchell9959]

It’s his sinister gaze..

[@Zagryzaec]

@@mitchell9959 as a lich I approve this message

[@flixarnD]

I want the laugh at 0:32 as a voiceline, what a perfect little evil taunt laugh

[@zaky4978]

Do you know what hero he spam last patch? Because i can't hear very well and the captions said "cauddle" and i can't figure it out, thanks

[@theheartbeatsdiscord]

@@zaky4978 It's KoTL, Keeper of The Light lol.

[@Cyd99]

This is a perfect video for me, I come from league and I’ve been really liking lich so far. Honestly using spells/auto attacking enemies is pretty damn easy and basically the same as in league. Courier has taken some getting used to but after a dozen or so games it’s starting to become second nature to have my regen/wards on a constant re supply. Honestly it feels more like im playing StarCraft2 then league. It’s really helpful seeing this lich pull the allied minions to the jungle camps, im gonna have to start doing that. Going good so far Dota isn’t THAT hard if you have rts/moba experience imo.

[@motchness]

classic student submitting a stomp for review

[@animal10.05]

best coaching ive seen from bsj period

[@ZachisSublime]

Since you mentioned Jenkins around half way through the video, I'm curious of the person being coached is Newsham lol

[@BB8enjoyer]

50:40 Hi chat, the girl is 5k core when drunk. where u 2k nerds at HAHA

[@KidTrigger]

5k is very low lmao. I’m like 9k when I’m drunk

[@DanKaschel]

@@KidTrigger lol I love how you commented dozens of times and literally nobody has taken you seriously

[@leonbishop7404]

that session was amazing!

[@DecemberGift]

9:56 this concept is used a lot in LoL, and it's referred to as "tethering", when you keep the same amount of space between you and the target. Great video, thanks bsj!

[@ogolthorp]

Or footsies in fighting games

[@nosorrybuy]

great vid, would be really cool to see more higher MMR coaching sessions

[@KidTrigger]

6k is very low mmr not high at all

[@PseudoDak]

@@KidTrigger 2k-3k is low, and that’s where most people actually are lol

[@KidTrigger]

@@PseudoDak most people are above 10k mmr delsuional herald lol

[@PseudoDak]

@@KidTrigger Go look at the distribution tables for MMR. Only about 80,000 people are even immortal (6k+). Most players are Archon 1, with 2.2 million players, and it’s a pretty standard distribution table. The very middle of the pack is average, with both ends of the distribution declining as we reach both extremes. There are more immortal players than Herald, but immortal is HEAVILY outweighed by the middle groups.

[@DanKaschel]

@@PseudoDak don't feed the trolls

[@dwinealiviado1047]

watching this coaching session got me like goddamn 2 games of 6k pubs in NA, pos 4 really did not give a shit about enemy's small camps, meanwhile in my 4.5k to 5k pubs in SEA, both camps are already blocked by sentries before the game starts and most likely to have 2v2's on pull camps and counter sentries every minute lmfao.. 🤣

[@KidTrigger]

Every server is horrible at dota below 10k mmr. All players with 4 digit mmr know nothing about the game

[@supdota2]

That's Alaska!!! I get queued in your games EVERY DAY!!!!! ps. that ursa is my friend haha, he's an ex professional LoL player.

[@zpokie123]

And now you have to tell hin he sucks at playing with io😀

[@drewcruickshank9354]

Interesting that the two games chosen were easy lanes translating to easy wins, I wonder why evaluate these games? The pos 4 didn't control the small camp in either lane and there was no kill potential on Alaska's pos 1s.

[@theacme3]

The hero tab bar is not how good you are with a hero. It is just your win% combined with how many games you played. So 75% with 4 games is a smaller bar than 60% with 400 games. But it is essentially your % win rate.

[@T_Vk1327]

I use my chat wheel when I mute my team it has the main things i need to comm to the team

[@KickKnete]

This makes me wanna try playing support. Looks fun.

[@motchness]

placing a deep ward and coordinating your team to fight under it feels better than a 5 man chrono

[@joeltravis9446]

I love playing support. I feel like I can make my team do something and I get to watch all of them pop off in a fight is so fun and satisfying

[@dnrevan778]

I watched this whole thing, as a 3k, and I feel like I have learned a few USEFUL things. Trying to better understand what my carry wants to do, little lane things to do, identifying my feeling of the game state and playing accordingly, and understanding how much of the map each side is farming and what to do/not do about it. Thank you BSJ. -Long time cringe viewer

[@pcxxy]

beautiful session

[@ezalor9555]

Bruh what's that sound at 46:53

[@Vei--]

Why is there LIVE in thumbnail, when this was a replay analysis

[@icata12345]

this is to advanced for my pleb brain, but it's good to have a general idea of what a perfect dota game would be like

[@KidTrigger]

All of this is basic lmao. Bsj only said basic things since lich is low mmr

[@balyeet6479]

46:53 For dota 1 tiny enthusiasts out there

[@lechvermilion7113]

i love dota 1 tiny page he a real n

[@pierregrobbelaar9116]

My friend use to tell me when i played that i am shit but i am smart. He told me you always think 5-6 steps ahead. That's what makes dota a fun game i am rusty now because i moved from mid to pos 5 or hard 4. I don't play dota anymore but they asking me to go back so i appreciate this video to give me a more in depth view of how dota transform from the time i played . I will be going through for pos 5 coaching sessions and maybe start playing with my friends again. I struggle to get use to dota 2. I am still a baws in dota 1 but people say dota 2 is easier i disagree i found it harder but i also say, if you want to get good at dota master dota 1 it was 90% player 10% hero in dota 2 they made it easy with scout etc. Not saying it's a bad thing just saying it's different than what i am use to.

[@donezze]

❤

[@downeyjr3603]

"That's about right" sounds so much like sheever

[@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152]

The Jenkins special !

[@daninbar3446]

31:55 If enemy team controls 25% of the map they have 1/3 of the other teams farm, not 1/4. yes, I am fun at parties. Awesom video!

[@soldieroftruth77]

Good point, though this makes his lesson even stronger!

[@seikashii733]

How much is your coaching lessons?

[@shubhamsingh-hn3tr]

love ur videos. I misunderstood what "live coaching" meant, I was expecting u loosing ur shit trying to coach in a live match.

[@motchness]

no no this is a replay analysis, live coaching is what you said, where the coach watches and coaches a live game

[@shubhamsingh-hn3tr]

@@motchness I think they edited the title, previously the title was "...(live coaching)" insted of "...(In-depth coaching)"

[@CatInTheHand]

BSJ can you summarize lessons from this video in the description. Would be very helpful.

[@Reciever80]

10:00 29:00 47:00 are some of my fave highlights (halfway through atm), but really this is one of the best videos ive seen. you gotta watch the whole thing and listen to how theyre chatting with each other.

[@fatherhooding]

you better be this nice to me when my coaching session happens.

[@wheres6thstreet]

💪🥶

[@michaelyoon9355]

Road to 0k

[@Happyrral]

Consistently getting out of auto pilot is the hard part imo

[@BannyMuth]

I would get windlance + ring + 2 stick + 1 firefly + 1 clarity. Depend on situation, I get tranq-boot or wand + another windlance. After this again it's depend on which hero I try to catch for my carry, I would go atos or orchid. Skill wise would be max 1 3, again depend on my carry I would get 2 if carry too soft.

[@blase9786]

How to get a replay analysis with BSJ

[@briancanavan4204]

Why send in replays where you stomp?

[@shezh9597]

ahem ahem ;)

[@michaelchen4317]

I'm allergic to every lich who cast his Q before everything. It hurts my eyes. Also, what's wrong with you putting sentries on hg when not fighting?

[@xoomzera2830]

BSJ FOUND SOMETHUNG BETTER THAN DOTA

[@ottomann4846]

Do people not block pull camps at 6k mmr?

[@zbway57]

layers get added as you go up in MMR. When I started dota in 2013 it was low mmr that never warded or blocked, or pulled, and high MMR where all of that happened frequently and was well contested etc, with shades between in the middle MMRs. Those behaviors have trickled down, and higher MMR players analyze the situation differently. Now in guardian and herald the pull camps are usually blocked or contested. The difference is at high MMR they all run a small decision tree (subconsciously or not) involving what heros are in their lane, who is their support matchup, how well can they contest me if they are 1v1? How likely is it their core can come help? How likely is it my core can come help? If I contest, can I help my core? can their support easily? What happens if they block? does their lane push, or is it very defensive? Does pulling even help me as much as harassing if i have to choose? Both teams re running that calculus, and if they both arrive at similar situations betting on the other ones thinking the same thing, sometimes neither does anything cause they try to make a counter play to THAT, and then have to replan. Its like when pros say it is harder to hit an arrow or hook on low MMR players, because pros are thinking of what a pro would do to dodge, or the vision they may have. Low MMR players may just not dodge, and the pros will have thrown a hook that misses because they anticipated skill.

[@DaDonnoro]

like like like like like like im mean like thats like seriously like its kinda like mostly like

[@LifeForAiur]

I am a dota noob; which hero were they talking about in the beginning?

[@LifeForAiur]

ohhhh KOTL = keeper of the light

[@Zero-lr7xf]

that tinker is a major greifer 😂 ive played against him so many times and hes so bad

[@MrAlmoOndo]

If only thinking like a 6k was an insult for a 2k player.

[@KidTrigger]

It’s a insult for anyone 6k is very low

[@SuperThunderPanda]

NA master tier Tinker LUL

[@ahmedabdelshakour5799]

She sounds fun. I'd love to watch her stream

[@heartofdragon0401]

When will the smurf teaching series comeback? I want to see you play the worst hero of the patch like AM, slark, etc. Into lower bracket like legend ancient to see how you deal with toxicity and all that stuff

[@sh3nnanigans79]

He just played slark today. It might as well have been a smurf game with how bad his teammates were.

[@Antido0]

in low mmr split push is your best option and heros like am are the best at it so i dont think it really matters if your team is toxic or not im playing on 6k to 7k bracket and trust me a lot of people still dont know how to deal with split push and they get bored and tilted just because the enemy is split pushing like maniacs

[@Antido0]

@@dresk2380 bad or good heros only apply to people with very high mmr that actually with x hero can dominate and earn a free win this doesnt apply to the average player the average players play a lot of diff heros that can be out of "meta" and thats why it can make "non-meta" heros good again but only for these mmr brackets just play whatever u want on those ranks lol

[@RedFlare2]

Never. Valve banned his smurf accounts and warned a ban of the main account

[@heartofdragon0401]

@@Antido0 unless your teammates run down mid and feed, sentries to block yourown camps, leave core at lanes to farm jungle, tiny air-lines you etc. If that's not toxicity and it makes the game unplayable, idk what is

[@fardin3371]

Please do one for carry Hard stuck at 5.3k

[@GadBoDag]

Pay him for a coaching session, lol

[@Maccelerate]

@@GadBoDag Be the change you want to see in the world

[@fardin3371]

@@GadBoDag yea cuz money grows on trees innitttt

[@GadBoDag]

@@fardin3371 get a job, lol. BSJ doesn't do this for free either

[@fardin3371]

@@GadBoDag woah there buddy, 4chan down or something?

[@alZiiHardstylez]

"Who did you play" "Lich" Of course, every time.

[@Carloscossi]

So passive playing as lich and she’s 6k? Or he’s 6k? . I’m 5k and I know that dual it’s super strong against melee hero’s and in that game. They could rape beastmaster

[@ogolthorp]

Solo beast master sure, but the only way dawn can get anything accomplished in that lane is if lich is playing too far forward. You’ll notice the way they played the lane, dawn did nothing.

[@chrisnotyourbusines7739]

He's definitely inspired during this session. Wonder why.

[@BB8enjoyer]

she should have got a 50% discount, bsj is having too much fun

[@nikolamijailovic599]

6200mmr doesn't know how Dawnbraker works? Am I dreaming?

[@KidTrigger]

Well 6k is extremely low it makes sense

[@ExceedProduction]

"Have you played Dawnbreaker?" - "I've never played the hero." This is mindboggling to me in so many scenarios. I've played every hero at least once and I read up on all their abilities and Agh's effects, even if I don't really like them... and I'm a total noob that doesn't even play ranked. I just feel like that's basic game knowledge? And also a desire to, well, experience everything? Really odd.

[@KishanYadav-br5kx]

its easier comment on things what has already happened… this guy was struggling with 1.5k smurfs 🤣

[@scienceteam9254]

UOOOOOOHHHH GRILLLL

[@BB8enjoyer]

who who who dat girl

[@Rnjeazy]

GRILL?

[@jovianjovian6294]

I cant believe player like this girl still exist. All I find in my games are toxic kids who blame and flame (myself included 🤣) .. but yeah thats the norm in SEA

[@bernard4459]

Don't aspire to get good at this game and don't patronize content that encourages you to get good at this game. There is no more hollow and less edifying experience than climbing Dota 2 rank.

[@juliusrendon5936]

ok sad for you then

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

well i dunno how to make more than $20/hr so nothin more interesting to do with my time

[@bernard4459]

@@xxxViceroyxxx go look up professional credential for white collar jobs or take up a trade

[@Kai-sz1vf]

not that it matters but idk if he's a man or a woman from that voice

[@kxw295]

you can use the pronoun ''they'' if you don't know a person's gender :)

[@Kai-sz1vf]

@@kxw295 not really my point but ok

[@travis9529]

@@kxw295 LMAO

[@hansgie673]

dude it is crearly a woman are u kidding me? Never heard a man that sounds like that

[@ahmedabdelshakour5799]

@@hansgie673 my voice sounds like that. And I'm 26, sadge

[@berryesseen]

A girl with 6.2k MMR? What is going on? I don't mean that girls can't play well. They just don't exist in my games. So, I am very surprized. Also, she looks like she knows what she's doing. She dominated both of the games by making right calls and being at the right place.

[@lexeouslicious]

stop being weird

[@KidTrigger]

6k is very low how are you surprised?

[@robinv1485]

that type of comment is exactly why she stated she was uncomfortable giving calls. She's a player like anybody else.