My Biggest Issue With Hazbin Hotel

So I recently finished Hazbin Hotel the other day, and there was one thing that really stood out to me.
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[@Liviart]

“It’s in hell of course they’re gonna swear 🙄” bro did you even watch the video 💀 my main issue was how the swearing affects the overall writing. I couldn’t care less about the vulgarity if it was placed well, that’s why I enjoy South Park. The issue with Hazbin is that barely any of the lines were well-delivered and served no purpose besides allowing them to get that MA rating. Let’s get some media literacy skills in the chat please! Edit: Also, if it’s all about the fact that they’re in hell, why are the angels swearing? Why is St. Peter swearing? If they kept the fact that ONLY the sinners in hell swore, I wouldn’t be as confused, but they didn’t take that route. It’s just lazy writing.

[@Solar_The_Silly]

I definitely agree! I loved the show and its animation, but the dialogue is where it got messy. Swearing should be used when a character is feeling strong emotions so the crowd can relate or laugh. Also, I love your art!

[@GogetaEiyuuYamcha]

I figure the angels swearing is supposed to be proof that they aren’t as pure as they think they are. That much is obvious with Adam.

[@Solar_The_Silly]

@@GogetaEiyuuYamcha Oh that’s true!

[@batim_b5815]

Yes I did watch the video and I literally had no idea what you mean? And the angels who swear are the probably evil angels

[@batim_b5815]

It just feels so stupid to complain about

[@DoodleDemon69]

It's like a middle schooler just learned the "fuck" word and is now violently abusing their power

[@Yume-AW]

That was me when I learnt what the word “shit” was commonly used for-

[@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq]

@@Yume-AWthats how the creator of hazbin talks in real life the swearing is organic

[@pinata111colada]

i think thats the point tbh, like look at adam and vox and lucifer. they mostly act like kids lmaoo

[@Eli-th3xi]

By age 11 I’m pretty sure all kids (at least Americans) have heard “fuck” good point still

[@HunterPoppleton]

@@Yume-AWI said shit when I was a little kid

[@smugbowkid9919]

I’m glad someone made an actual video detailing why the swearing is an actual issue for people, because the memes have sort of watered down the topic.

[@If-loki-was-a-fox]

:O *Smugbowkid!!* My friend keeps telling me about how often they encounter you in various comment sections, but this is the first time I've actually seen you (It's like seeing a unicorn /silly)

[@smugbowkid9919]

@@If-loki-was-a-fox Really? Man I’ve truly reached e-celeb status

[@tbeast151]

There have been plenty explanations on why people dont like to copius swearing.

[@tylermccaw8092]

@@tbeast151 Hi, just putting this out there, you have an alright profile.

[@Sherry_Moon2]

Profanity will not make animation for adult audiences, mostly all Western adult animation used this method which is a biggest flaw

[@DigiThorn]

“It’s called an F-bomb, not an F-machine gun” I’m going to have to remember that one 😂

[@CapitanoBull]

me too

[@TheAlmightyJaktar]

Same

[@HunterPoppleton]

“The F-nuke will be used by vivizepop in the future”

[@Certified_prick]

XD

[@spoioioing]

i’m gonna be completely honest, i really thought people complaining about the swearing was a bit stupid, but you made me realize why it’s such a big flaw lmao- thanks for talking about this!! I can finally see why people could be annoyed about the amount of swearing in this show. great video!

[@eelraM]

Even as someone who swears a LOT, even I thought the amount of swearing was unnecessary 💀

[@Yume-AW]

Same with me. I’m sure ALMOST every scene has at least one swear or something 💀

[@eelraM]

@@Yume-AW FR But I did find it kinda nice that even tho Charlie is the sweeter type, it doesn’t stop her from swearing occasionally- usually those type of characters get a heart attack when they say “crap” or smth so this change was kinda nice

[@Dragonmongamer]

Sometimes I look at this show and think “Jesus, and I thought I had a mouth…”

[@lauraw2526]

@@eelraM Yeah, but see, Charlie's use of swearing is tolerable because she's one of the few characters who doesn't do it all the time. It adds actual impact in her case while it makes the other characters a joke. So what that they're in hell, a person can be evil or a sinner without swearing constantly.

[@NOTFOUND-b2f]

YEAH it was so annoying

[@lunakitty847]

Hazbin Hotel sounds like if a kid just discovered they could swear for the first time in the backyard without spontaneously combusting.

[@Simone-n7y]

Omg, that how I felt when I watched Helluva Boss

[@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq]

Only 3 characters in the show don’t swear it used to be 4

[@DigiThorn]

🤣🤣🤣

[@iluvchess14736]

Gah! Hot Belgian waffles! Wait, I'm alone. I can swear for real! (Takes a deep breath) SON OF A-- ~Grunkle Stan

[@PatrickReuploaded]

⁠@@iluvchess14736I have noticed that you are a man of culture

[@eden-elysium]

An example of swearing used properly and sparingly: In Bojack Horseman, only one f-bomb is allowed per season. Without fail, it is dropped during one of the most (if not THE most) crucial, emotionally-charged scenes IN THE ENTIRE SEASON. I love Hazbin Hotel dearly. I really do. But, uh… trying to watch that with my dad was awkward, to say the least. And if they wanted to keep a high swear count and make it pack more of a punch, I do think they could’ve done some things different. An idea I had was that some characters kept it completely clean (like Alastor did for most of the show, and his swearing lacked that same punch it had in episodes 2 and 5 once he started cursing more often), some characters used the words sparingly, and others cussed up a storm. Another option is to take the Bojack Horseman route that I mentioned earlier. Characters that swear use milder (if you can call swearing ‘mild’), less vulgar words in normal situations, but when things get heated, such as in a fight or an otherwise emotionally-charged moment, they break out the big guns. Idk. I’m not an expert. Just giving my two cents.

[@syafeeqahisham1740]

Let's not forget south park as they used swears in appropriate time too.

[@eden-elysium]

@@syafeeqahisham1740 never watched it, so I can’t comment

[@syafeeqahisham1740]

@@eden-elysium yeah,haha. Don't worry about it

[@DragonFries12]

They actually kind of did that with stolas in helluva! The only time he says fuck that I can remember is in truth seekers when he's yelling at Blitzo. Now if vivzie could just do that for majority of the characters, that would be great.

[@Yume-AW]

and also, characters don’t swear when NEEDED. If they were arguing, like in the song “You didn’t Know” then it’s acceptable because let’s say…idk, Lute was mad that Charlie believed Angel could get redeemed so she called him a crack-head (yes Ik that’s not what she actually said.)

[@butthatsjustmyfilthyopinio5083]

Without being too long winded about it, I liked how Alastor swears. I saw someone phrase it as "he seems like he's above it" which among the amount of swears used seems like the case. The only time I actually remember is his "HA HA, fuck you" to Lucifer. Every other time he gets creative with his insults which lands a lot harder.

[@Heccy_weccy]

I think the only other time he swears is when Adam breaks his stick thingy and puts him in a state of vulnerability. Here we see him swear when he genuinely feels in danger which emphasizes the importance of the moment.

[@flamenami]

@@Heccy_weccy he also swears at Lucifer

[@thisistato]

yea! that’s what i was saying to my friend yesterday. “alastor doesn’t swear a whole lot, but when he does it’s savage!”

[@hikaru1675]

I remember Alastor swearing 4 times during the show. (that scene with Lucifer, he calls that cannibal character Susan a b*tch, and two times during the Adam fight) And yeah, it's also the only few times where I thought the swearing was effective and funny.

[@artistanthony1007]

No it's just predictable in these shows and it kills his Victorian Era mindset and style.

[@only_orsh]

"it's called an F-bomb not an F-machine gun" hits so hard

[@ezx8802]

I hate how they ruin really tense and climatic scenes for the sake of comedy. like the finale, where it’s incredibly tense, Adam is at his breaking point and you think there’ll some super climatic and satisfying end to Adam, maybe even him retreating.. Only for him to be killed by Nifty for the sake of being funny The cussing isn’t even a big thing for me personally, but the lost or abandoned sub plots, pacing, and (some) character designs have really gotten on my nerves

[@starzz_above]

OH MY GOSH THIS 😭😭 like i was so hype for the final scene and for the potential for adam to be SOMETHING more than what he was. i mean it's literally adam, the first man EVER in the context of the bible, why on earth was his role one of the most one dimensional comedic relief roles of the show 💀

[@amochikaay]

From the start, Adam was pretty much just set up as a static over the top comedic villain, so while a more complex Adam would definitely be interesting, I don’t find it inconsistent for his final death to be a punchline. Sir Pentitous’s death was pretty bad though 😬

[@ezx8802]

⁠@@amochikaayIt’s totally in character for him, and the show in general, but it was still really disappointing for me DON’T get me started on Sir Pentious’s death, he was my favorite character and I was sad to see he’d be sacrificing himself, but I was excited to see how the battle would progress with him.. Only for it to literally be over in a millisecond, and he didn’t even get to do anything! so he died for basically nothing!!

[@Unhappytimeaper]

To be honest as someone who liked Hellavu when it first came out and now doesn't really like any of Viv's work is because of this. I hate to sound harsh but I just don't think the team is good at pacing their writing because they want a 'drama' comedy but then can't EVER find a balance. They set up characters for arcs and then throw it all away because 'cussing would be funny haha innuendo/violence joke.' Characters never grow, they never progress because the second a chance comes to use them in some half baked joke they take it and undermines majority of the events that take place. Why something like Adam's death and so many other moments is annoying to the point it just makes the show bad is because with how long it was in production and I would have hoped Hellavu as a side project would have helped develop a lot of the flaws I do see in these series basically doesn't have growth at all.

[@CrusaderMoth]

He better come back as a sinner bro, but he probably won’t because he’s was killed with angelic metal :(

[@Alexander32490]

Honestly I agree, and this is coming from someone who loved Hazbin hotel and who swears like a sailor. So many jokes were made unfunny due to the amount of swears, and some smaller plot points got sorta over looked because of the swears too. I remember in the first episode alone thinking “well that one wasn’t necessary” it just felt lazy like they didn’t know what dialogue to put or what other words to use to express their emotions BESIDES cursing

[@M1CR0P0P]

i feel like the swearing in hazbin is nowhere near as bad as it is in helluva but it’s still sooo bad charlie saying shit like four times in the first few minutes was genuinely so annoying and it felt very out of place and out of character

[@Liviart]

Exactly!! For some characters I was “eh 🤷‍♀️” abt it, like Husk or Vox or whatever I didn’t care much, but for characters like Charlie and Alastor I was so confused?? Bc it felt so outta left field and soooo out of character

[@M1CR0P0P]

@@Liviart i was rewatching the court scene in heaven and charlie’s fuck yes to them being able to continue watching is just so random and out of place especially for her it made no sense 😭

[@Laura-iu8sp]

I agree so much. I wish so badly that they had kept Charlie and Alastor swear-free as that seems to suit them. At least until later on in the show.

[@T_E_G]

For them wanting to do a "Disney princess" type of character in hell, which was, allegedly what they were going for in her character I think. They really shouldn't have made swearing a part of her vocabulary, because it DOES seem ooc for someone as whimsical as Charlie is. It would have made her stand out imo 😭

[@Laura-iu8sp]

@@T_E_G Being swear-free made Alastor stand out pre-series. People liked how old-timey and gentlemanly he appeared and were surprised when he swore to himself in his comic. They should have kept him like that rather than turn him into an edgelord.

[@itsturtlefacemydudes]

Nah dude I get it 100%, I remember when I first played Life Is Strange and there was randomly cursing in random places every ten seconds with certain characters, it got...Tedious, even though it was simulating how college kids like to swear every ten seconds, and that's mainly so that when there's certain characters, like Max, who don't swear often as a contrast, so that when she DOES swear it's like OH WOAH OKAY UH SHITS SERIOUS NOW because everyone else is swearing constantly and she's not. I can't stand watching even three minutes of Hazbin Hotel because of, well, exactly what you said. Swearing can be funny, but it also needs a point, and it can't be every ten seconds or suddenly it doesn't even remotely matter. Seconded all the way!

[@Jdudec367]

I mean not all of the swearing is meant to be funny though

[@itsturtlefacemydudes]

@@Jdudec367 Same story with Life Is Strange, but as I said, there's a time, place, and amount for swear words to work instead of coming across as grating and/or like an xbox live lobby

[@Jdudec367]

@@itsturtlefacemydudes True, I was just saying I dunno if it`s as bad as Life is Strange in terms of context. Especially since not all characters even swear a lot in Hazbin Hotel.

[@enitenit2791]

NO BUT GENUINELY. Like limiting the swears you put in your story can actually lead to interesting character/writing decisions! For example, I'm going the pg 13 route with one of my stories so I'm saving the singular curse word until towards the end of the story, but for other moments where I would normally insert a swear, I did something different. One of my characters replaces swears with candy(ex: "Peanut Brittle!") due to growing up with a younger sibling, while others have different forms of swears since they technically aren't human. BAM free character and world building development!

[@lauraw2526]

Seriously, swearing is not a creative or interesting way to write. It can add shock value, but only if used in moderation. I have a character, in the entirety of the series she uses the word 'damn' all of once, and it scares the crap out of the person she says it to. If someone does nothing but swear, I just start tuning out what they say and stop taking them seriously.

[@TheKillerMoth]

My problem with Hazbin Hotel's swearing is simple. IT'S NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR COMEDY. Like yes, shows like South Park and Ricky and Morty swear a lot for jokes. But the difference between South Park and Hazbin is the fact that 9 times out of 10, it isn't the ENTIRE joke. There's still a delivery and a punchline. But in Hazbin Hotel's case, its just "swear = the funny." And I can only think of a few times it made me actually laugh, and that's when they did it SPARINGLY, like with characters like Charlie, Alastor, and Sir Pentious. Since they don't swear as often as the other characters, when they swear it's actually funny.

[@daikaijuguy5382]

This is the main reason why i just stopped caring for viziepop's shows as of late. She doesn't really take any of the criticisms into consideration and ignores them just because she thinks she's good at humor and writing... lol It also feels like I'm just watching vizie's self inserted vent art be in motion at this point because that's what hazbin hotel and helluva boss feels like to me now.

[@artistanthony1007]

Glad you're done with her stuff, she had a chance to prove she can take criticism and make better writing but we got Episode 1, there's no hope for her shows to get better and I dont care anymore.

[@NancyIsTheName]

I lost all respect for her after liking a tweet insulting someone. Her being a childish loser who can't take the slightest critiques only amplified that. (Source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZrFq6qEi9yBqc0si=PWfp1NClgn3zRQZw)

[@Jdudec367]

@@artistanthony1007 I disagree, seems like the biggest issue with season 1 is it being rushed but Season 2 will likely be less rushed.

[@artistanthony1007]

​@@Jdudec367 Stopping you right there, Edgerunners and Over The Garden Wall are on par with length as HH and they do more and better with little, example Niffty deserved a song and we care about her vs Carmilla and Vaggie's song about feeling doubtful could've been put into a long but short intimate moment between Charlie and Vaggie to show us they're a couple, a song that represents their love like M&M, there's so many other scenes and characters that could've benefited with being replaced with more important things and this show was already gonna be loved, EVERYONE knows of these shows and so they should've just waited for plots put in Season 2 and they should be proud of making 1 Season as if it's the last, that personality trait is admirable and humble.

[@Jdudec367]

@@artistanthony1007 Bad comparison since those intended to be short series. Nifty really doesn`t need a song and we got a song that represents Charlie and Vaggie`s love. What could have been replaced with more improtant things? Well yeah not all of the plots have been really developed yet like with the Vees for example. but like compare it to say...(and I know this series is MUCH longer but you get the point) One Piece, it introduces major characters and villians long before it may actually use them like with Doflamingo, Whitebeard, or even Blackbeard who you don`t even know is Blackbeard at first.

[@imnotadrien]

you NEED to make more content like this. your voice is so pretty and it was relaxing to listen to. I'm a big fan of commentary context so I would love for you to do more like this! also I totally agree, I love hazbin but I don't think I laughed one time while watching, the whole show...😭

[@starzz_above]

tysm for this this video explained it so well 😭😭 like hazbin was genuinely a lot better than i expected it to be and i get why people are hyping it up sm but the swearing just ruined SO many jokes and scenes for me bc they feel so unnecessary 😕

[@Laura-iu8sp]

I can't even watch the scene where Alastor says he's about to end Adam's f-ing life without cringing. Its just so weird and out of character!

[@starzz_above]

@@Laura-iu8sp OH MY GOD SAME 😭😭😭 like the first time i saw it i physically recoiled idk it flopped so hard.... i so wish they would have kept it to where he only swore once it would have made the scene where he actually gets hurt by adam so much more impactful 😭😭😭

[@Laura-iu8sp]

@@starzz_above I would have loved if they didn't make him swear until near the end of the show lol. I think having a clean mouth suits his character better.

[@starzz_above]

@@Laura-iu8sp exactly 😭 the swearing just felt so weird coming from him

[@Giagua-]

As a GTA 5 player i can confirm that Hazbin hotel's swearing is near to none. And yeah Helluva boss has like 100x times more swears so yeah 😭💀

[@arthurgamerpro6585]

Explain to me why everyone complains about swearing in adult cartoons, but no one complains about swearing in games like GTA?

[@conemancentral2826]

This was especially true for Alaster and Charlie. Both do NOT feel like they should swear as often as they did (and they both swore relatively infrequently.) Alaster's line about killing Adam in the final episode felt not just unnecessary, but out of character, he had no real reason to dislike Adam anymore than any other angel, so going out of his way to swear at him seems like the writers trying to give him a "cool" line, and it ruins the impact when Alaster swears after having his staff broke which is an ACTUALLY impactful moment since Alaster had seemed invincible up to that point. Also, while Alaster seemed to avoid swearing because of his confidence and 'radio' or whatever, Charlie feels like she should outright DISLIKE swearing, the fact she will swear after getting blown off by the angels a few times but WONT when Sir Pentious dies just feels wrong.

[@Jdudec367]

I dunno if I would say that at all, Alastor is jut trying to seem imposing really so it kinda makes sense. Well that`s the point actually, after he said all of that and seemed serious it`s meant to show that he isn`t invincible. I mean does it? She doesn`t mind it too much. I disagree that doesn`t feel wrong, not everyone would swear when someone dies.

[@Laura-iu8sp]

Yes yes and yes!!! Can you imagine what a shock Alastor swearing would have been when his staff broke if he hadn't already done it twice? Or 3 if you count bitch lol. And I agree about Charlie. They made her so sweet and saccharine that I don't know why they even made her swear as much as she did, as it seemed ill-fitting.

[@Jdudec367]

@@Laura-iu8sp I mean....if it was just the second time he swore it still would have been a shock really. He said bitch? Huh I don't even remember that. She swore only when it seemed fitting to be fair, like when she saw the cannibals or during "You didn't know" in episode 6

[@paradoxtatorstudios9681]

Agreed, I didn't like that "I'm going to end your f*cking life" line, sounded more tryhard then anything else. If anything, that simple "fuck" when his staff broke is far more effective, lol.

[@talonsandtails501]

I use fireworks and bang snaps as an analogy for Vivziepops “humor.” I personally don’t like swearing in any amount, but I can still appreciate a well delivered f-bomb every once in awhile. Well delivered profanity is like gorgeous firework in the finale of a Fourth of July show. Vivzies writing and line delivery is like annoying kids throwing bang snaps everywhere

[@xbreezee]

Lmao creative, I love that

[@NOTDNAOFDOOM]

Im getting tired of hearing the argument that comedy is subjective but it just looks like a 13 year old wrote the "jokes"

[@daddydwaved]

No one said this humor style is subjective, people are just expressing opinions of why they think this Comedy style dull and repetitive

[@meeeeeeeeeeeeeewi]

I didn't expect a commentary vid from you but I MORE THAN GLADLY WELCOME IT i love these types of videos sm

[@RiskoPlexus]

This has helped me realize exactly how much swearing has been integrated into my daily speech because I swear (pun unintended), that I barely noticed even 10 in the first episode

[@rumyum]

I didn't realize either and I barely swear😂 I don't know I it felt so normal to me

[@tylermccaw8092]

You cannot deny that 98% of Adam’s lines are consistent swearing. I also think it’s weird how they’re allowed to curse in heaven but regardless, the show’s still fantastic!

[@melonseed2814]

The scene that pisses me off the most in the show is an exchange between Husk and Angel “You don’t expect me to memorize all this shit?” “Awhhh, we could improv this shit, baby cakes.” Idk something about “this shit” being repeated twice in two separate lines just takes me out of the scene every single time. That’s not remotely a believable interaction and it’s entirely “this shit” ‘s fault I can’t get over it

[@Lizzylove6073]

I remember listening to “ You Didn’t Know “ and hearing the line “ That’s what the fuck I’ve been saying! “ and mentally and physically recoiling because ohhh god that sounds so terrible.

[@fairyberryblue]

SOMEONE SAID IT THANK YOU IT SOUNDED SO OFF

[@CRAZIESTCAKES1]

I cannot be the ONLY ONE who thinks Charlie should have sworn less like in the first few minutes of the first ep she swore around two times already😭 it just doesn’t fit her I feel like she would only swore when incredibly pissed

[@nummipills]

FINALLY FUCKING SOMEONE FUCKING MENTIONED FUCKING THIS

[@danaugg9183]

Could’ve replaced the line with “That’s the thing I’ve kept on saying”

[@artistanthony1007]

​@@CRAZIESTCAKES1 Viv doesnt understand how to make proper Princesses & Princes of Hell and I wish things would change, there's literally other things to have them say than swearing to get the message across show is adult and in Hell.

[@imafurrynow]

Another problem is the show felt rushed, there should've been more episodes for the story in season 1

[@Nerd_Joins_The_Internet]

They had plenty of time. They could have cut supblots, cut characters, etc and everything would have been more streamlined and fine. They have a whole other season ahead of them, they could have just moved characters and stories from season one into season two to focus on what was actually important in the first eight episodes. I keep seeing people saying that the show was bad because it wasn't given enough time but... no. They had plenty of time, they just used it poorly. And some indie projects don't even get off the ground in the first place.

[@imafurrynow]

@@Nerd_Joins_The_Internet that's fair enough

[@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq]

@@Nerd_Joins_The_Internetit was supposed to be 22 episodes and Amazon thinks 8 is enough

[@Nerd_Joins_The_Internet]

@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qqSo they could have just changed the story and cut characters to make it fit into eight episodes. Time cuts happen all the time lmao

[@DavidBlaiseSGaela]

And the second reason is that there might be a chance that will would be no season 2 after this which din't happened thank god im tired of shows getting silently cancelled mid season or been silently been cancelled since there launch or whatever its been happening to a lot of shows lately and them having less episodes than the shows back then, anyway i cant remembered when they started working on season 1 but after some time after a24 picked it up in 2020 or something and the episode count was reduce to 8 instead of the initial 22 episodes and the team thought there would be a chance that they will not green lit another season so they tried to put like almost everything in there to the story in the span if 8 episodes.season 1 felt more like season 1.5 at the beginning to season 2 worth of content i still like the show dont get me wrong but it also has its flaws like any other show/series

[@Cozm1k]

Helluva Boss Asmodeus: Lust is something to be EARNED and enjoyed. Hazbin Hotel: Cursing is something to be THROWN ABOUT and worn down.

[@someonerandom5210]

Helluva boss felt worse in terms of swearing though?

[@Skittlez-d7s]

@@someonerandom5210it’s not worse In swearing, it’s worse in the fact it’s humor is just one word. Sex, which is kinda worse in a way while hazbin can be kinda funny helluva is just sex jokes and does not at all feel funny

[@mostlyimpulsive3462]

This is ironic considering Helluva Boss is a LOT more egregious on the swearing...

[@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq]

@@Skittlez-d7sBrandon rodgers writes the humor

[@Skittlez-d7s]

@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq aint no way

[@Unhappytimeaper]

I swear a lot. I don't really have an issue with swearing, but what I do have an issue with is that Viv between all projects just isn't a good writer/character developer beyond creating adult content that caters to the humour of a middle schooler with the writing direction of something you'd find on wattpad fics. I get if this was just some niche project between friends who all have the same humour but Viv and the rest of the team are looking to make it big with shows like Hazbin and I think if they [the team] don't start taking parts of it semi-seriously with wanting characters that have plots/progression it just is going to crash and burn. Helluva is facing so many critiques of this with the characters in that show that honestly I would have hoped that there would be some growth in handling arcs/concepts better for at least the level of production the show is at and honestly it's more sad because I don't think Viv makes bad characters/ideas. It's just one where I feel the creator refuses to grow in their medium because refusal for taking in critiques.

[@AyoAce2]

thank you so much for this video 😭!! It’s literally so annoying when people say “it’s in hell 🙄” for bad writing and bad representation. It’s only compliant on cussing, really nothing else (like some good writing)… it’s all just shock value and it’s literally … “I’m edgy haha” I want to do the biggest groan ever when vivs diehard fans literally get so angry at you for criticizing anything of the show. I like some of it, but.. this is really bothering. AND IT BOTHERED ME EVEN MORE WHEN SHE SAID SHE WAS INSPIRED BY SOUTH PARK C’MON NOW 😭🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@AyoAce2]

This was 2 months ago but I also wanted to complain about something else. I’m not trying to hate, why didn’t she make Adam black or middle eastern?? I’m genuinely confused. I know he acts like a one note white asshole (which is so annoying because an ACTUAL misogynistic incel as a villain would be HEAT) but.. she’s going by actual Bible and religious stuff?? I know it was inspired by the VA but.. the difference between making a character that’s been used to be something else and changing it to something different to fit the VA and it’s not important is different. I was showing my dad the show and he was genuinely SHOCKED (as a fully black person and VERY, VERY, VERY religious and Christian man) that Adam was white. Yes, I know they’re supposed to be grey because of Heaven stuff. But.. you couldn’t of made it implied he was actually black or middle eastern? He acts like an asshole misogynistic & incel white guy on reddit. If she’s actually trying to go by the laws of the Bible a little why is he white? Why are MOST of them white?? It’s confusing me and I thought this would be the best video to share it since I’d already commented. Adam has a great importance in the Christian Bible and Jesus was most definitely Palestinian or Black. This with the “Alastor is black so he can do voodoo 🤡” (Lmk if that was just a rumor or she actually said that) shit while he has no black features and sounds like a 1920s white announcement radio person is.. weird. I know she’s not racist but it’s really not good for her case. As an African American who has been called “sensitive”, “snowflake” and etc for calling out things that are deeply offensive to me as a human being existing seeing some people on KZbin comment about it genuinely upsets me. But this is a genuine question.. other than the VA, “they’re grey because yada yada”, and stuff.. why was he white? Was there a writers choice for it.. oorrr.. IM CONFUSED PLS HELP 💀💀🙏🏽 *ALSO SORRY FOR THE ESSAY IT UPSET ME QUITE A BIT 😨*

[@MicahBell_4321]

​@@AyoAce2 Adam was never black or middle eastern according to the Bible, though..

[@hehemynameiskiwibutnotthefruit]

I so totally agree with you. The excessive amount of swearing in this show is insane to the point where I can’t even differentiate between regular words and curse words 😭 Thank you for sharing your opinion on this. I was waiting for someone to actually create a video with detail, explaining how the amount of swearing is just so unnecessary and ridiculous so thank you! 🙏

[@Necropherosis_Moth]

The Angels swearing constantly is really off to me! As someone that's been a fan of this franchise since it was a different thing entirely, I was really quite disappointed with Hazbin considering that 4 year wait between pilot and series. :') Also Vivzie most certainly does care about criticism/opinions on her work, so much that she will openly argue with people on Twitter and let her fans go after others on her behalf. And she's now "quitting" Twitter, playing the victim which is insane.

[@StingingNettle47]

It was refreshing seeing Alastor as a character that swears pretty infrequently, but by the end of the series he did so 4 times overall (imo they should've kept it to once or twice). BUT my point is that I feel like they should have handled all the other characters similarly. Sure, it's hell, swearing bad, the two are associated, but there have got to be thousands of people down there that were sent there for reasons that aren't just that they swear like sailors??? Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but the vulgarity was excessive (and helluva boss is apparently 10x worse which is why I'm afraid I won't be able to take it seriously if I watch it). Things like Lute's line to the exorcists about mutilating Vaggie were funny because they served a purpose, but whenever someone just swore casually (or like 6 times in a row) I just sighed. Going "haha, get it, this is an adult show so they swear" isn't funny if that's all you're doing with it. Though on an entirely different topic I was pleasantly surprised to see this video from a person I'd only labeled as "cool genshin animatic creator." I'm a fan of this type of content as well

[@L0ver0fHumanity]

My thing is that the in-universe culture around swearing is so inconsistent bc Lute n Adam swear A LOT but then Sera and Emily act surprised when Charlie swears. Why would angels even swear in the first place? At least with Helluva Boss, I do find the humor a bit more charming, but maybe it's because I do have a soft spot for Brandon Rogers, and he is also a writer for that show. I also feel like the tone in which characters swear is different too. Millie and Moxxie swear when under stress/Millie is excited, Blitzo swears pretty often, and Luna swears very often especially in anger. Additionally, since they're hellborn, I find it to be more of a cultural thing, but Hazbin Hotel doesn't establish that as well. Even in some of their songs, there's swearing where it's unneeded (dropping an f bomb in the slow, beginning part of Loser, Baby really breaks the seriousness of that situation) Helluva Boss just has...a different vibe to it despite the two shows being in the same universe. Maybe it's bc Helluva Boss is indie, but even the music keeps in proper tone with the situation. (the lyrics for Look My Way is actually so good for what Helluva Boss is)

[@artistanthony1007]

Brandon has not written since Season 1 (minus Episode 8).

[@flowerbloom5782]

There’s a difference making a show where characters curse vs the characters feel like 4 year olds discovering fuck for the first time.

[@LEO.H_PRODUCTIONS]

When viv said "i weep for you if you dont find a well-delivered F word is FUNNY!" She said well delivered and yet she doesn't realize she isnt doing it right.

[@mymom8611]

"Cursing. the crutch of the illiterate." -Mr. Freeze

[@CarolineWilliams2007]

I’ve been waiting for someone to talk about this

[@axelostlund2348]

The way it was used differently among the cast I think was positive characterisation. Adam is meant to be the biggest jerk and the opposite of someone who fits as a poster boy for heaven, along with being an uncreative meathead, so yeah his frequent swearing and having no care or tact for when he does it checks out. Alastor on the other hand swears, 3 times total in the show. And I honestly thought that was 1 too many, but except for that one all are used well to put proper emphasis on a situation. Charlie I believe swears, ~9 times across the show, maybe more depending what you count, and 3 of those are in episode 1. She doesn't have a frequency to do it, but certain situations can trigger a large frustration. Husk swears a fair bit though in a more casual refined way than Adam. Unlike Adam, Husk's swears actually have emphasis to them. Yes, Hazbin has a lot of swears, but they have a method to their madness, just like south park.

[@AJGecko18]

Vivzie can write well delivered swears, hell, look at Alastor! He only swears four times and yet they are all pretty well placed. Except for the “I’m about to end your fucking life” line. God, that would’ve hit SO HARD if he didn’t swear

[@artistanthony1007]

Alastor should have never swore, he gave off gentleman vibes and represents Victorian Era with his mannerisms and outfit, making him swear destroys that and just a predictable character, he swearing is a signature Viv character trait and that's not good.

[@Canibar13]

I know what you mean. Swearing can be fine, if used sparingly. But once it's overstayed it's welcome, then it becomes repetitive and annoying An example of using a swear effectively is in Full metal Alchemist. Where the word bitch is used (by Riza Hawkeye) for both shock and intensity. Especially, since the swears in that show had been pretty tame up to that point. And that word had never been uttered, until that very moment. Honestly, if Vivzie cooled it with the swearing, then those words might regain their punch in the show (when they are used).

[@wordsmith6154]

I loved hearing your opinions on this. I don't like the over excessive swearing (heck, I hate swearing all together) but I actually really like this show. Viv has often said that the characters do that because that's how they talk and, of course, not all of them talk like that. Characters like Angel Dust and Husk throw it around like Candy, Charlie may say one or two swear words per show and Alastor has said only a handful in the whole show (the f-word twice and at least one b-word). I think the problem is that we hear it so often from the majority of the cast that when characters like Alastor swears, it doesn't have the intended impact because we're so used to hearing everyone else throw them around in every day conversation. I love your work and I'd love to hear your opinions on the other things you listed to the side in the beginning of the video. I get the pacing, but I'd like to know the problems you saw with the songs, the plotlines and the voice acting. I've heard a lot of people with positive things to say about all of them, but I'd love to hear your POV and how much of a problem they really pose on the show as a whole.

[@ActuallyGwengo]

Viv is just so in her own bubble of ego and self centred-ness that she will never improve as a writer or even as a person. She’s like what 31? She needs to grow up

[@dpkave]

THIRTY ONE? jesus christ

[@ActuallyGwengo]

@JohnFitzgerald2008 thats fine, i have characters i made when i was like 10, but the thing is those characters need to grow over time and grow with you as you mature. It seems like all her characters are stuck in her aged 14 brain and its just weird to say the least

[@LouiseBelcher69]

To give a uncharitable summary 1. demons look like furrys 2.characters say F*ck every microsecond they get the chance to 3. Half descent music 4. Angels look like monsters with eyes 5. Underwhelming relationships (main character and love interest) 6. Weird daddy issues 7. Undercutting a serious topic such as sexual assault with a inappropriate music number 8. Generic character that aren’t fully explored or reinvented 9. To many sex jokes Need I go on like if you agree

[@1ty04S]

Well to be fair angels are literally monsters with eyes and like 9 wings 😭🙏🏼

[@yalovoyhznepomny]

​@@1ty04Sdid you pray today?

[@1ty04S]

@@yalovoyhznepomny LOLa

[@IMayOrMayHaveNot]

...Vivzie has to learn about a little concept called "it sounded funnier in my head".

[@Barnghost]

Am I the only one who never noticed the amount of swearing? I swear a lot when I talk to people, even in casual conversation, so that may be part of it. I mean, it's certainly not natural for everyone, but to me it felt natural in the context of the characters, which I personally relate to.

[@Firelava88.]

yeah i had no real issue with it, and it didnt really occur to me that it was so frequent that people had to talk about it 😭

[@topbottomswitch]

yeah, seemed completely natural to me

[@emanuelmora8204]

I think there just not used to it and they need to adjust to it

[@RayTheDumbass101]

Yeah and I mean it's hell so why wouldn't it be expected😂

[@Unhappytimeaper]

I think so much the bigger issue for me is not the swearing, but as mentioned the use of it in context. While swearing isn’t the overall problem it’s that swearing feels more of an excuse to avoid writing a lot of jokes because in the context it’s meant to be “pp joke funny. Cursing funny right?” Often times it can cheapen certain things that could be better punch lines or is used in a way that doesn’t feel it takes the time to often understand when and why a character swears. To be honest some of them feel like they’d suit over the top, causal swearing but other I think would be better established more if they gave specific instances on why they swear. Alastor is a great example because he really only swears a few time, meaning when he does it feels like it build into understanding character and leaning more freely into a joke if he was to actually curse. In personal taste it feels like a cheap way to contextualize hell by having every character sorta have the same “voice” by overly using curses and not thinking about placement of using certain swear words- mainly because as someone who swears a lot I know I tend to use swears in specific places and with a reason usually that not every one mimics, and really just left a personal sense of comedic timing feeling feel off. While it’s not the biggest thing I just think some of the best jokes/insults worked because they didn’t use cussing so being able to explore that more without feeling like something is dropped ever five words would be nice

[@OfficialGorousBow]

I'm glad you tried something new compared to your other content I would love to see more along with your usual content ❤

[@Laura-iu8sp]

Omg thank you for this video. The amount of times I see people on social media get trashed for critisising this show's writing drives me crazy. In certain spaces you can't even say something like "I wish Alastor didn't swear, or that it didnt bappen so soon" without getting trashed! Like wtf?? This show has several issues and I dont understand why so many people don't see it or refuse to admit it.

[@q1855days]

all the mfs i met who actually like this show and think its perfect also tend to act like they never read a book before and all the songs are peak poetry, like no all that shit was cheesy and lacked depth. the dad vs dad episode was so confusing because when was it clarified that alastor and charlie had a father daughter bond

[@Freybyss]

Couldn't agree more. As somebody who was a fan of the pilot I did watch the whole show, and frankly I realized the flaws really quickly. Watching the show was mostly due to my nostalgia because I was first introduced to it when my understanding of good writing and humor was not as defined as it is now. I will say the show was decently entertaining- my main reason to keep watching was to see the character arcs that we were promised with the premise of the show. The episodes lack a serious understanding of pacing and it feels like if you blink once half the episode will have gone by and you are left confused and not satisfied by the end. Also the community id concerningly young which especially leads to those fans that refuse to accept the show has flaws. Sorry for the ranr I just wanted to add to this as a "fan" of the show lr at least somebody who somewhat enjoyed some of the genuinely serious parts :')

[@Paradigm-Shift208]

With some characters, swearing a lot is totally in-character like Husk or Angel Dust. But when every character swears a lot, it just gets kind of annoying😭. Yet, on the contrary, I cannot even watch South Park XD.

[@reoij]

For some reason I feel like South Park is more vulgar than this, people just don't see it

[@Paradigm-Shift208]

@@reoij That's true. South Park's jokes also do not have an intelligent punch line, they're just... there, I guess?😂. In my opinion, South Park has more one-dimensional jokes than Hazbin Hotel. Funny, how personal preferences work...

[@Jdudec367]

@@Paradigm-Shift208 Yeah like they say it`s jokes are more nuanced but like....the one they showed with trey`s 3 year old little sister doesn`t seem very nuanced at all. Meanwhile there is the whole joke about Adam`s favorite food being ribs in Hazbin Hotel and the nuance to it and why it makes sense.

[@Funkadelic_zach4579]

Even in the finale, adam during his fight with alastor, he kept saying f**k like 20 times...it's not funny anymore

[@yalovoyhznepomny]

Adam is so fcked character so I don't care since the 1 series was released

[@pinata111colada]

thats the point. I think adam swore the same amount as angel, despite having like 5 minutes of screentime lmao. It's to make him look like a middle school loser. my point is he was uniquely made in that regard

[@ThePersonWhoActuallyAsked]

As much as I love Hazbin Hotel, its excessive use of swearing has become annoying. Almost as if they aren't able to form a sentence without adding vulgarity to it. The show is becoming slightly stale due to this.

[@WillTheWise04]

I honestly didn't think the swearing was that excessive. And this is coming from someone who doesn't swear at all myself. 😅 Like, compare this to The Big Lebowski, which is 2 hours long and has a total of 281 f-bombs alone. That's a little over 2 per minute, not even counting the other swear words. That seems way more excessive than Hazbin. And, if there was any setting where unnecessary swearing makes sense, it's hell. And it's probably mostly Angel and Adam bringing that count up. It feels very in character for those 2 to swear unnecessarily a lot. Idk, maybe I'm just desensitized to swearing in media after watching so many movies with my dad.

[@WillTheWise04]

@@percyvaleni I didn't say anything about how funny it is, I was just saying I don't think it's too excessive. 😕

[@WillTheWise04]

@batd0ll in my opinion, it's not. Maybe we're just used to different levels of swearing in media we consume, because I didn't feel like the swear level was anything out of the ordinary. It honestly didn't even cross my mind that some people would consider it excessive until people were talking about it online. Lots of adult movies and shows have a lot of swearing. The movie I mentioned in my og comment is just one example.

[@danaugg9183]

Watch Helluva Boss,got 2 seasons of swearings

[@hikaru1675]

You misunderstand the point made. It's not really about the amount of swears, but about their placement and effectivness. Because there is a difference between swearing to make a joke and swearing just for edginess sake.

[@WillTheWise04]

@hikaru1675 Lots of people swear a lot in real life for no real reason. Why is it bad for a fictional character to do the same? It's just true to life. Not everyone in real life always has a reason for their swearing.

[@someonerandom5210]

Idk is it’s because I live in Aus and the culture I live with but honestly it really didn’t feel that bad if anything helluva boss had more swearing

[@dragonempress8367]

You're kinda right

[@QuicheQuill]

i would love another video detailing your other issues with the show bc i love watching your doodles while you validly rant your points 😭😭😭 ive been getting into south park vv recently but i can immediately tell what you mean when you say that that show ACTUALLY understood how to use swearing effectively as a writing and comedic tool and i dont wanna be an *extreme* anti, but it really is difficult for me personally to really get into hazbin other than "liking the concepts but not liking the execution" bc thats my whole experience with it- and this is coming from someone that loves "dumb" jokes :'DDD it just feels so... unpolished in a "fanfic writer's 1st draft" sense...

[@StinkySienna]

HI LIV!!! I’ve seen it as well, my mountain of critiques for this show only grows larger tbh. as an Australian you WILL catch me swearing an absurd amount of times so this will be really hypocritical coming from me. HOWEVER, 55 swear words within 23 mins is fucked🤭, the mindset of “swear word = funny” is so childish and dumb and comparing it to South parks swearing abilities is almost laughable. I completely agree with you pookie, vivsiepop didn’t use the swearing in a creative or even humorous way, the characters are just swearing for the sake of swearing. They actually swear so much that as you listen to them swear and insult each other later on in the show it just becomes underwhelming and sorta hard to sit through, the constant crude insults between each character got old so quick for me, I’ve had my fair share of shock Humor but Hazbin literally milks it dry Viv milked the absolute shit out of shock value. Yea there were times where I thought the shocking insults were funny but it’s gets lame pretty quick when that’s the only dialogue you can come up with to use as filler. I do think this Hazbin has its flaws and I didnt hate all of it, but it was disappointing considering I’ve been waiting for Hazbin hotel to come out for 4 years. I have so many more problems with the show but overall, i think the dialogue is a huge issue and really doesn’t deserve a 2nd season until the characters can communicate without having to say constant dumb sex jokes and swear words. honestly I could ramble for hrs abt this AAAHHGHHHEJ That’s all I have to say rly Ly Liv💕 Keep preaching

[@StinkySienna]

SO SRY THE MSG IS HUGE 😭

[@niaomi6]

While I respectfully don't agree with most of the video, there is a character that is given too many swears: Alastor. When he cursed at Lucifer for disrespecting him, it FELT earned and made my jaw drop. Then it became cheap super fast; like calling Susan an "ornery old bitch" and saying he was going to end Adams "fucking life", those really made me go 😐. Lastly, it came full circle with Alastor saying a drawn out Fuck when Adam broke his staff thing and almost killed him, that felt like a natural reaction! He's a character that's not 'supposed' to swear so dialing it back next season for him specifically would be great.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

"calling Susan an "ornery old b*@ch" TBF, that title wasn't completely out of bounds......😆

[@IncognitoMode_]

It may seem like an extreme opinion, but just imagine the scenario where most people end up in hell. At that point, they would stop caring about censoring themselves since they would feel like it's pointless. From a psychological standpoint, this makes perfect sense. However, I can understand why some people have issues with this as a television show.

[@azuredrago001]

Yes but also, what about Adam? He’s an Angel isn’t he? He doesn’t have any actual reason to swear, he just does it. Like literally every single sentence that comes out of his mouth has a cuss word in it (Not tryna start a fight just sharing my pov)

[@genoob5843]

What about the angels tho

[@IncognitoMode_]

@@genoob5843 It's Adam and his army that mainly swear. The only exception is Saint Peter reacting to Lucifer. But none of the heaven born swear throughout the show.

[@kathyprior4281]

I'm making Hazbin episode remakes with no swearing in them.

[@djcupcake8662]

That’s not gonna work out well. Even thought the swearing is pretty repetitive a lot of the funny jokes include swears too.

[@puppydogs68]

Hazbin Hotel: Kidz Bop Version 💀 (I don’t like HH either but I don’t think that’s a good use of your time especially when it’ll get a lot of hate probably)

[@andriygriffin4782]

Well articulated. Love me some swears like Wolf of Wall Street or old Spill Com reviews back in the day. But it really shows Vivzeypop's maturity when she finds stuff that would only work on a 13 year old funny and gets extremely petty and spiteful when anyone tries to argue its merits. Between both Hazbin and Helluva, my biggest issue apart from everything else (Designs/Characters/Story/Pacing) is that they're both just atrociously unfunny. Depressing to say how classic Rugrats and SpongeBob run circles around these without a single swear in sight. Best the show got out of me was a chuckle at some of the voice cast line delivery

[@dandyman2182]

You've got a knack for explaining your position well in a critical manner whilst remaining entirely professional such a polite critique I'd love to see more from you in relation to media analysis be it a critique or praise

[@Unhappytimeaper]

I actually came back to this video after thinking about something. Another video I watched pointed out that Adam’s swearing kinda feels, weird only because of the reaction when Charlie says fuck. It got me thinking back to the Cherubs in Helluva where them swearing was treated as a big deal despite the fact the Cherub’s kinda sucked all along. Within this, I’ve been thinking about how Adam’s “comedy” I think could have been leveled by cutting him down on actual swear and instead doing that almost childish thing where you replace it by saying something similar. I feel not only would it enhance Adam’s character it could have added a level of humor where the morbid stuff he was talking about was explicitly hidden, saving for a genuine moment of shock to when he actually cursed. Partly too this doesn’t mean necessarily removing all of Viv’s humour that is being clung onto, it could still be dramatic, crass, and highlight that Adam’s is an outlier who sucks but still feels within the heaven’s structure- and makes Charlie feel more like a fish out of water when she swore. It doesn’t need to be difficult changes to characterization to alter cursing patterns to be honest, it just means putting a little more thought into longevity of the writing to keep swearing humor not always feel like it’s the backbone of a sinking dialogue ship

[@Solbrave00]

With the amount of swesring im suprised that no one in the show dropped the N bomb yet.

[@Dragonmongamer]

The one thing I learned when I saw Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is “Constantly swearing and spouting sex jokes does not make you a more mature writer.”

[@blue52611]

I personally swear a lot in sentences, when I really shouldn't, so I never saw an issue. But I do understand how it can bother people. Its why i try and swear less lol

[@danaugg9183]

I find it annoying and frustrating to hear swears in every sentence,like not all people wanna hear it

[@citrus3603]

​@@danaugg9183 Agree, it makes the person look as if they have very limited vocabulary

[@tc4331]

As much as I like Hazbin Hotel, that's also one of the main reasons why I can't completely enjoy it. It's very bland if they just swear for no reason other than just for comedy, which still didn't work. The only one I can somewhat excuse is Angel Dust just because of his job, but the rest are still not off the list. But for me, the only character that was done right with swearing was Alastor. He swore the least in the show so there is a bit of a shock value when he swears. The first time he swore is a shock for me but also funny because he did it to the KING OF HELL and THAT was the word he chose to use to his FACE. But the other few times aren't that shocking, they were just used to insult someone, which is pretty in line with his character. He does taunt many people and like to get on their nerves, but there are only a few that truly gets on his nerves than just being amusing. The other characters? Nah, they don't get a pass. But the swearing is not the only problem I have. It's all the misplaced inappropriate jokes in both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. It just disturbs me a few times and makes it hard to watch. Helluva Boss especially are guilty of that, which is why I don't watch it. This is my opinion, so you can disagree or say your opinion if you like to.

[@Momoyue]

Thanks for explaining this so clearly. The only character who used swearing correctly was Alastor. He only cursed twice in the whole season and it was perfectly timed. Over use of swearing to me just comes off as unintelligent. Cursing constantly just seems like you lack decent vocabulary and constant vulgarity shows a lack of mental depth. Frankly, only weak comedians overuse cursing since they can't come up with a punch line that delivers on its own merit. I've stopped watching shows and KZbinrs who curse too much since it just annoys me at this point. I'm even making the effort to curse less myself since it used to be quite rare for me.

[@nuggetbtl]

I thought I was the only one to have issues with the pointless swearing in this show. Thanks for making this video

[@cookieism.]

honestly i agree! even though i didn’t mind the swearing one bit as someone who swears way to much. the only character who’s language was actually impactful was Alastor. he only swears 3 times in the whole show and when it makes sense. (btw i love ur art style)

[@chamomile1115]

Random but i LOVE these kinds of videos, nostalgia for the animation KZbinr era probably.... Would love to see you talk more about shows you watch ngl 😌

[@karl6683]

agh your so valid for this

[@confu5ed_]

Bro there's a swear count on the ACTUAL Prime Instagram account and it was damn near in the 100s and this was early in the season 💀

[@SodaFrizz666]

Hazbin trying to act like an adult show is similar to how Taco Bell is considered Mexican cuisine. Something actually adult (that isn't only constant swears) would be GTA V. Let's just say that if I went out to eat, I'd choose the Mexican restaurant.

[@arthurgamerpro6585]

What makes it acceptable to swear in GTA V but not in the Hazbin Hotel?

[@Jpthecool1800]

You, may have started a war with this video. All I say is this: Hasbin Hotel fans are not human. They embody the demons of that show. Choose your final moments very carefully. (Not a fan of the show btw.)

[@Jayson_Atrack_43]

Vivzie uses the excuse that “it’s like South Park”, which that’s not why people like South Park. Also South Park is made to be humor, and the swearing blurs the line in Hazbin between a joke and comedy show haha sexy and emotional show with good plot. Also edge lords is Hazbin’s nickname

[@Bloobleeblu427]

Props to you for tackling an issue that isn’t often brought up in modern media. It’s not that I’m against the show or any others like it, but I’m glad that you understand how shock value swearing heavily impacts writing. Ps: I love your art style! It’s so cute.

[@spiderparades]

i appreciate the south park discussion, because many hardcore fans say that south park does the same. i havent even watched south park, and you already debunked the claims. awesome video, critiquing with a valid reason, constructive criticism! you covered everything. i would love to hear more of your opinions!

[@mastermuffles7097]

Interestingly enough, they do end up using swear words correctly to either add emphasis or for a punchline at some points. As in, they do it correctly with Alastor and occasionally Charlie. Mostly with how it contrasts with how swear-free they usually are. But the impact when they do it right still remains limited because of the amount of times Vivzie fails with it.

[@CooISkeleton96]

It’s not even the fact that they swear, I don’t really care about swearing, but almost EVERY joke in the show is just “haha guys a character said a swear” or “haha sex is so funny”

[@rumyum]

Wow. I didnt even notice the amount of swears. Your rant is valid😂

[@mckenzie9388]

the whole damn show just feels like “baby’s first adult swim cartoon” it truly makes me flash back to being 14

[@GEK0dev]

Finally someone who mentions it, I mentioned it on twitter, And people came to the shows defense? Saying people talk like that??? Like wha XD, Granted twitter is awful but it’s an easy way to give a review

[@Rainfromthemoon]

God this is so real, like yes they cuss but please do it better and not just non stop, like actually have jokes that land💀

[@tylermccaw8092]

Thank you! Hey, how’d you feel about Adam considering almost EVERY LINE is him swearing? I honestly found it annoying.

[@Rainfromthemoon]

@@tylermccaw8092 YES I found it so annoying and so inaccurate, I wouldn’t have minded the cussing so much if all the angels didn’t cuss

[@tylermccaw8092]

@@Rainfromthemoon That’s another thing. Do you find it weird for the angels to curse considering their explicit language would be forbidden in heaven?

[@thecrakp0t]

I can't remember where I first heard this but basically there becomes a point when swearing becomes an "um." That's what's happened with her shows

[@tiffanybrown6946]

me and my friend watched the first 4 episodes and counted up all the swears, and there were over 275.

[@Right_Bumper]

I've said this somewhere before, there's nothing wrong with swearing as it's an adult thing to do However my problem is when it gets overused

[@lidiez_1316]

I think I was able to enjoy hazbin and helluva boss more than others because english isn't my first language, so swear words don't have the same impact on me as they do in my mother tongue. I tried to watch some of the show dubbed and I couldn't stand a whole chapter without cringing, that is when I understood what the complaints were about

[@briangriffin5372]

What’s crazy is in season one of Chucky, he was only allowed to say “f*ck” ten or eleven times. That show does not (for the most part in season 1) feel like it over does it with the swearing, but it still feels prominent. And those episodes are twice (sometimes even more) as long as the hazbin hotel episodes!!!

[@monetmightnotexist]

This is why I appreciate Poison so much, it’s a song about the most insane shit without swearing once, and it hits just as hard

[@Moonstar79]

It's the lyrics of Loser for me 😭 "you're a loser goddamn baby" bro why did you put the gd in the most awkward spot it could've been

[@manyyoumas]

but if they didn’t throw a swear word in there you wouldn’t know its for ADULLTSS! you wouldn’t know it’s set in HELLL!! (heavy on the sarcasm)

[@OliverOilFr]

I guess it's something in character for Husk and they needed to put someone as not to repeat the same phrase again? I do see your point however

[@szweetsztuff]

the only character who kinda…avoids swearing begging old is alastor. as he only swears when he’s threatening people, when he’s with lucifer or… *susan*

[@JaredPictures]

The show itself feels like it was written by a 12 year old who just learned to start cussing.

[@thedastardlylizard5944]

This is literally proven by Hazbin Hotel because when Alastor swears people actually react because he usually doesn’t swear.

[@KPURPLEKiNG]

You're absolutely spitting here. This show is definitely a big hit with the "I'm 13 and I can say bitch" crowd.

[@danaugg9183]

Exactly,no wonder children shows without swears are more mature,plus i think Viv onlu wrote ecxessive swearings cuz thats her humor and she dont care how other ppl feel abt it

[@NoahtheGameplayer]

This demonstrates that the series is perpetuating the notion that the creator of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss relies heavily on a canon of humor that hinges solely on profanity-a tired trope of equating swearing with comedy. It falls flat. Furthermore, depicting Christianity, whether overtly or subtly, in such a manner only serves to reinforce misconceptions about the religion, potentially leading viewers to believe that this portrayal accurately represents the beliefs or imagery associated with hell, thus distorting their understanding of Christianity and possibly casting its followers as villains.

[@carsonvance1555]

The issue is that the Hazbin writers think that swearing is the joke. You can have a show that uses vulgarity but it needs to be used properly. I get comedy is Subjective and whatever but I like when jokes have a well written set up ,structure, and punchline. The dialogue is so fast paced that it doesn’t allow its-self to take the time to set up a joke with a great payoff. Also I hate the excuse of “ well it takes place in hell so obviously there will be tons of swearing 🤓”. Just because the setting is in hell doesn’t excuse it from lazy dialogue. Watching this was felt like the script was written by a 14 year old from 2009 who just learned about swearing for the first time.

[@mari3.g0ld]

“you’re only allowed one f-bomb, so don’t fuck it up” 😂

[@YourFavoriteStranger-jk3sw]

I feel like the only well written part of the swearing in this show is how Alastors first “fuck you” at Lucifer hit harder because he didn’t swear before that! It was actually funny (in my opinion)