My Cheap Nailer and Compressor [video 463]

[@harveytr7106]

And, ps: one thing I love about this channel is that although you have high-end stuff, you recognise both that the budget stuff has its place (and you keep us away from the real rubbish) and that this is particularly important for us hobby guys who might desire the better tools but often can’t justify them. Thank you- it’s really useful.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌👍👍

[@bikingmagoosy1173]

Couldn't agree more. Loving all of PM's content and a massive inspiration to me and my amateur DIY antics. Checking out tracks saws...what a game changer.

[@brianhill1294]

Hi Peter Just a note, you should apply about 3 drops of fine oil into the air inlet at the rear of the nailer every time you use it, this lubricants the nailer. I’ve been using them for nearly 50 years and never had any problems with nail or staple guns. Thanks for another informative video👍

[@RagnBoneBrown]

Cheers for the mention Peter! 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Pleasure Keith! Great vids! 🙌👍👍

[@jcoul1sc]

@@10MinuteWorkshop its interesting how different both your bids are. Who is your favourite celeb woodworker?

[@iaidoman]

Just ordering my stuff now. You Sir are a top chap. No waffle. just facts.

[@matthewwhitley]

Was so relieved when you took the plastic off the guage!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂👍👍

[@mrklean0292]

I bought a cheap compressor to stand in for one that finally died after 25 years and didn't even notice the plastic on the gauge until I saw this video 🤣. But my compressor is much louder than Peter's.

[@johnfitzgerald4274]

I've just bought one (SILVERLINE 868544) to use with my small SEALEY 6ltr compressor (SAC0610E). Your own experience using one is good to know about. Thank you, Peter. P. S. Had a go with it this morning (Sat 11.11.23) with c.3/4" brads (60 psi) and was very happy with the result. Not bad at all @ £29.99 with free P&P.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Great vid bud! Huge fan of air tools since I'm a total cheapskate 🤣. Totally missed Keith's vid in all the recent kerfuffle. Good find! 👍🛠️😁

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Andy! 👍👍

[@cerealkiller4248]

I have an electric nail gun, but with a fence to put up, for the life of me I couldn’t find it. As I have a 25L compressor, I had a quick nose about, and found a Draper Air nail gun for £40/£50. With Saturday already here I had limited options so I bought it. I set it up, and put 30mm nails in it. We were replacing our feather edge fence, and as it was already cut to 6’, off we went. My wife was passing me the boards, and using a self made marker I pinned the boards on. I was so impressed with the set up, the tank lasted ages before it cut back in, and the Draper Nailer was a star performer. Normally I’m a tool snob, my kit is usually DeWalt, my hand tools are Klein, Knipex, Wera etc, but I was so impressed with it. For DIY these tools are fantastic, I can’t recommend the cheaper unit enough.

[@mrpoo7651]

Your arm movements in the beginning were like Jeff Goldblum. This is a positive in my book. Great vid

[@DrRideWell]

Brill, exactly what I needed. Considering purchasing a compressor with tools for a while but have no experience what so ever. Thank you, keen to more! Chris.

[@kanedNunable]

ditto. ive spent months deciding if i need a battery nailer but then what type? or a compressor and then the nailers are cheaper. plus you can use compressor for other things too

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! My experience is pretty modest, but I'm very pleased with the Hyundai. 👍

[@Geekolaus]

@@10MinuteWorkshop yeah, but not so much with the power cord, eh? 😬

[@huskyneusify]

A short, yet brief video, explaining everything there is to know. Well done Peter 👍👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! Turned out longer than I expected tbh, but we packed it all in! 👍

[@BensWorkshop]

If you are new to compressors "Wow, that's LOUD!" If you have had them before it's virtualy silent! Cheers for the review.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Haha, very true Benedict! 👍

[@58JMG]

@@BensWorkshop Haha, so true. My 25 year old Sip sounds like a spitfire starting up.

[@gilestennick3861]

Thank you so much, I had also settled on this pairing and am just agonising over whether to take the plunge! Thanks to your video Hyundai and Silverline will be profiting again!

[@adamwestwood7717]

I love your videos but they cost me a bloody fortune. Every time you do something like this it tips me over the edge of something I have been thinking about doing for a while. The worst are definitely your gifts for makers videos though. I watch them and then suddenly need all these new tools I didn't even know existed. I am now off to buy a compressor and nailer! Keep up the great work!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! 👍

[@zeemalota732]

Thanks for the video, timing is fantastic! I've been looking for a compressor and nailer, and your information has ensured that I don't buy the wrong size. Cheers!

[@peterprice8393]

Hi Peter , one other thing for the newbie compressor owners is how dangerous blowing compressed air is directly on to bare skin , as that air can carry lots of bacteria from the condensate that forms in the storage tank . As heat generated in the process of compressing the air help this bacteria to thrive. Also the danger of air embolisms. Please keep the fantastic vlogs coming my friend.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Good points Peter, thanks! 👍👍

[@ianelsley]

Glad that's been mentioned. Was taught this on day one of an engineering apprenticeship. Horseplay involving aiming the hose at a bodily orifice was particularly frowned on as I recall 😳

[@iankearns]

Good to hear the budget brand being acknowledged by a reputable YT content maker and channel owner. Appreciate there are brands out there which are very dubious but to put all budget brands into the same locker is nonsense.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 👍

[@kanedNunable]

yup. some are crap but i have found some to be brilliant value for money, not had luck with cheap routers but ive been using a cheapo erbauer track saw for a year and its been great for the cash. 160 as opposed to around 600 is a bit of a difference.

[@iankearns]

@@kanedNunable when you look at some of the middle of the range brands are made in the same factories as other budget brands then it is only the 'brand' that really changes. Yes some things are not worth scrimping on (the number of cheap clamps I have gone through) but if you have something which is only going to use once a month or even less (my biscuit jointer now has had no use for nearly a year) then what is the point of buy premium brands for them to sit on the shelf

[@davidsneddon2242]

Peter I think this is real Karma, every time I reach a new stage in my woodworking journey you are there or thereabouts in video delivery to offer me the solution to my continuing dichotomy, brilliant man ! I have been deliberating again on this very topic as I was on plunge saws when you give me the ready made solution, you are definitely a mind reader :). Thanks for this again Peter and as always your delivery and execution is spot on, first class man.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks David! 🙌 👍

[@fdkelly]

Honesty goes a long way Peter, Thanks...

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Fergus! 👍👍

[@joeladam742]

I have had air nailers for a long time. I recently bought a ryobi battery powered brad nailer and pin nailer to avoid all the setup and noise of a compressor. I have been very happy with both of them. The are reasonably priced in the states. Noticed you had them on the shelf behind the compressor. One advantage of the air nailers I have found is they seem to be able to drive further than the battery powered counterparts if you adjust the air pressure to the higher end of the tool range. Thanks for the video.

[@johntreweeks9345]

bought this exact setup after watching this video. thanks for your detailed info. putting together a privacy screen this weekend with 30mm brads - fingers crossed

[@barryspiers6956]

Just ordered the same set up, thanks Peter.

[@sjfarrell2.0]

I bought the same pairing of nailer and compressor after watching your basic plywood boxes video. Extremely happy with the results 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Very nice! I was so pleased with those results, glad to hear you are too! 👍

[@stefanopassiglia]

Thanks Peter, I was looking into an 8L compressor and a nailer and was actually wondering if an 8L was enough. This helped me a lot.

[@stien9330]

I am too. Where did you get yours? I am also in nl. Thanks

[@markherbert4799]

Hi Peter. Just bought an electric stapler/nailer from Lidl, their Parkside range. Gave it a good trial today & works really well. Not cordless, but £17.99!!!!! Also got their shop vac, has on board power socket so power's on and off with your mitre saw (or jigsaw or whatever) 30litre, really solid construction, £59.99!!!! If one is not a "brand snob" these tools are no brainers.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Mark. I’ve seen the nailer/stapler mentioned, will take a look thanks! 👍

[@PauloFerrariMKII]

The Brad nailer you featured here is really a DIY tool. If used day in, day out, it wouldn't last very long at all. Pneumatic tools like OMER are used professionally & are priced accordingly. In clear terms, you pay for what you get. In my experience, buying a cheaper tool is false economy as you would probably replace the tool 3 or 4 times before you would have to replace a better tool.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

As I say in the video, I’ve been using the £23 16g nailer since 2012, so for the usage they get from me, they work out just fine. 👍

[@andyjames8612]

Love the sound of an air nailer! I was thinking of buying a compressor and nailer but as well as using it in my workshop, I wanted to take it out on installs and the thought of lugging it all around put me off a bit. I ended up buying the Makita 10.8v pin nailer, obviously more money than buying a cheap compressor and nailer but it’s been invaluable. It’s no bigger than a cordless drill and the beauty is it uses 23 gauge pins from 15mm up to 35mm, ideal for fixing delicate mouldings and trim. Good review Peter, I still might succumb to a compressor in the workshop 😀

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Andy. I love the idea of the 10.8v 23g nailer, but I’m not in the Makita battery platform and it’s still a hefty chunk of change for something that I know I won’t use much. Lovely small gun though! 👍👍

[@sygad1]

I have the same nailer and it really is great value for money

[@dtwistrewind7361]

Had my silver line 1500w budget router 6 years no issues also their own dremel variant all been well used and still good.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nice! 👌

[@colinmottram4429]

Thanks Peter - my 100L compressor has recently moved from my workshop into the garage, and I'm really missing the air-nailer in the workshop. I bought a Dewalt cordless 1st & 2nd fix nailer set recently but they're so damn heavy and cumbersome compared to the air nailer - I have the Silverline 18ga air nailer too, and I'm no weakling! I'm going to have to buy a small, quiet compressor like yours for workshop bench work and keep the DeWalt twinset for heavier work.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Sounds like a plan Colin! 👍

[@davidmcarthur1093]

Good video as usual i had a Draper compressor and 16 g nail gun about 25 year's ago they were great only stopped working last year. My new nail gun is battery cost £600 including batteries and charger and i love it i can take it anywhere quick to use and no noise but i know they are not for everyone.

[@adi1955]

I have the exact same kit - Excellent kit for the money - very impressive

[@xinixxagnix201]

I have the 24 ltr version of the Hyundai brand and it works great for nailing and spraying small object with a Lvlp gun, if you put a 60 mm fuel tube in the airfilter output it reduce the noise more. Great video and thanks Peter for the great review.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Goof to know, thank you! 👍

[@muddywater6856]

Funny...similar compressor I have had the "fuel tube" straight out of the box. Couldn't figure out it's function till I pulled it off. Quite a difference!.... (pun intended)

[@BusbyBiscuits]

Thanks for the video Peter, cleared a lot of my questions about the topic all within 15 mins of time.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Paul! 👍

[@sofiacirigli4268]

Hi Peter, I'm looking to buy a Hyundai 8 litre air compressor but I have never use a compressor before. Came across your video and find it interesting. Thank you.

[@Goorney]

Good video. I have a Hyundai air compressor and it is very quiet.

[@reculvertowers]

I bought a stanley 24litre noisy compressor and five tools came with it.Used the spraygun to paint my 4' x 6' house gates finished in no time.Bought 844 silverline nailer for £31 to replace my electric £89 Tacwise nailer cos it started not picking up nails when fired.And as you say the silverline nailer has never missed a beat.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I think I’ve had every tackwise nailer they made, and they were all poor. Very impressed with the silverline. 👍👍

[@warrensmith2902]

Great video. Here in the states, our budget budget brand is Harbor Freight(HF). From the video, they had the same nailers. Been using my HF 23gague nailer for about 10 years now on a HF 5gal (Loud!!!) hotdog compressor that is now in a silencing compartment. Cost was about $100 US. for everything. My 18gague is a Ryobi battery operated one. Both work great and I'm not giving them up. One suggestion, For the builder. Understand your workflow and they buy your equipment accordingly. If your not going to be using a compressor for painting, you don't need a big compressor for everything else.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Solid advice - it's always tempting to get a bigger compressor than you really need, 'just in case'. 👍

[@Mr_Judge_Benny_Hinn]

I bought a 24l refurbished Hyundai from ebay (paid only approx £110)) about 7 months ago and so far it has been great...Runs a coil nailer fine...I do have a beast of a compressor, 200l sip for spraying cars and air tools but it's isn't very portable for dragging around...

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nice! 👍

[@encostablanca]

Those Hyundai super silence are great

[@tazmaniandevil1503]

The budget nail guns are fine for DIY or light use, I agree completely. There are many "tool snobs" out there who will disagree, but I have a B&Q Performance Power nail gun in my shed I have used regularly for over 20 years and it has never had any issues. I have a tiny wolf compressor to power it, which is also over 20 years old. Pretty sure I paid about £60 for both. I also have a draper nail gun for larger nails which was under £50 and has now renovated 2 houses with me.

[@charminglad124]

I have a small compressor but it has 2 gauges on it, one the tank pressure and two the tool pressure allowance gauge..TY for your video

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, mo old compressor had that too, but tbh I never touched it as it was very finicky to set right. As I say in the vid, this Hyundai is as close to ‘plug & play’ as you can get. Works great! 👍

[@MyGrowthRings]

Nailed it.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂 👍

[@Fran-fv6pf]

Brilliant, made me spit food laughing 🤣

[@markbussell1669]

Odds are the short power cord is to limit line loss where lack of power causes undue wear on a motor with "Value Engineered" windings. In other words, the Mfg. is trying to pull the CYA for warranty purposes.

[@harveytr7106]

I went through the same thought process recently. Wanted a cordless nailer but when I looked into it, and already having a small compressor, it was a total no brainer. Air tools generally are so much cheaper than their electric equivalents.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Absolutely! 👍

[@psychosean77]

got one of these yesterday, first thing i did was wire in a 5m cable. That is the only draw back!

[@psychosean77]

Also put a regulator and a Y splitter, it's great

[@Simon-Smith.]

I saw one of your recent videos using this nail gun and was very impressed with the nail hole and how clean it was, so much so that I slowed your video down to get the product make and number and then ordered one. it's a great little nail gun and a very good price.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Wow, that's dedication! Most folks would have emailed me at the wrong address, then emailed me again when I hadn't responded in 20 minutes... 😂 Glad you're happy with it - it's a great little gun!👍

[@Simon-Smith.]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Let's hope Silverline send you a commission cheque. ;)

[@michaelburton4521]

Great video Peter, nice to see you. I like the lightness and quick action of air nailers. I've got the same set up in my garage. Small, quiet comp and a cheap Clarkes air nailer

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Michael! 👍

[@whitewittock]

Just got a nailer to go with this hope it works. I tried to use an air hammer, you get literally one second of hammering before the pressure drops off and you have to wait half a minute for it to repressurise.

[@normanboyes4983]

Great video Peter. I think it is clear as horses for courses. Compressor for the workshop (preferably in a separate outbuilding) and cordless for site working.👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Sounds like a good division of labour to me Norman! 👍

[@hu5116]

Craftsman has a nice 23 GA V20 battery powered that accepts up to 1 3/16” pins (a lot are only 1”) and I own it and love it. Give you complete freedom from cords or hoses, is affordable and is small enough for most application.

[@daverobinson6384]

I’ve been using the 24ltr model for about 6 months, with a park side nailer…couldn’t live without them now! The really are so quiet compared to a normal unit! My only gripe…the 3 ft cable, exactly the same on the 24 Ltr! Fortunately I only have a small shop so not a huge issue!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Good to know - and madness isn’t it with the 3’ cable! 🤷‍♂️👍👍

[@marktilley6624]

Great video Peter. I actually have the same compressor and brad nailer and completely echo your comments. I originally bought my compressor for running constantly whilst connected to a resin pressure pot and its fantastic - it doesn't wake the house up at 3am whe nit re-pressurises.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Mark! Yes, very impressed with how quiet the Hyundai is - and how well it seals! With my old noisy stanley I couldn't leave it switched on as it would cut in regularly - with this one I have (accidentally) left it on and not known about it until I came to switch it 'on' again!

[@davidfletchfletcher]

I've got the Silverline gun and found good quality brads made a huge difference in performance/consistency.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Always! 👍

[@SouthpawDavey]

That compressor is quiet. I think you nailed it...

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂👍

[@hardipchima7828]

I have the same combo of compressor and nail gun and like Peter no complaints at all apart from the cord length 😁

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! And what is it with the cord length?? 🤷‍♂️ Cant be just a blind-spot, can it?? 🤔

[@kevinhowes3803]

Bought the 8ltr based on this video and love it. Upgrading to the 24ltr next year with a auxiliary tank setup. Great video

[@Chris-uu6dg]

Hi, thanks for this great video. The silverline 16g nailer is now over £102inc VAT which is ridiculous. Add the Cost of a compressor, and its well over £250. Better off buying a battery-powered one now. Dewalt 16g bare unit is only around £250. Pneumatic is getting more expensive and battery powered has got a lot cheaper lately. Pneumatic manufacturers are pricing themselves out of business at this rate. Thanks Peter.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks. It was an 18g nailer, still on Amazon at ~£32, and the 8-litre Hyundai compressor is still under £150. 👍

[@Chris-uu6dg]

@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for your reply. Yes, the 18g is still cheap, but for some reason, the Silverline 16g is very expensive now. Don't understand why there is such a huge difference in price between the two now. Thanks

[@andremoncrieff5028]

I've the same nail guns Peter, like you said they are great value I also have silverline framing nailer for past 12 years and still going strong

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I'd forgotten, I had the framing nailer as well when I put up our decking & fencing! Lent it to a friend afterwards and never got it back! 🤷‍♂️

[@andremoncrieff5028]

@@10MinuteWorkshop go and get it 😃

[@Cenedd]

Hi Peter. I bought one of these a while back and can also thoroughly recommend it. The power cord can be replaced if you have some electrical competence, a couple of blade crimps and a ring crimp. Watch out for PCL's "Euro" fittings as there is one that was called "euro" and has very recently been renamed as "A style". As far as I can tell, it matches the American "Industrial" (aka type D or Milton M-style) and is NOT compatible with the Euro fitting on the compressor. PCL's XL fittings are compatible and are being rebranded "XL Euro" (or maybe "Euro XL", I forget which I'm afraid). These aren't silent but you can quite happily have a conversation (usually about how quiet they are) while standing next to it. The non-silent variety you'd be wanting to put ear defenders on....and that's not an exaggeration!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! The cable replacement is on my list of jobs to be done! 👍👍

[@ianmurray3820]

Hey Pete top tip on the compressor, I’d started standing outside my shed whilst my old one clunked and banged it’s way up to 5 bar fearing it could let go at any time, Managed to pick up a factory refurbished ( essentially brand new )unit for £280 the new 50 Ltr Hyundai is super quiet in comparison And no where near as scary.👍

[@cooking.with.rob.official]

Consistently quality videos and advice. Thanks Peter

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 👍

[@stevenliggins1623]

Just brought the nailer, really happy with it and why didn't I buy one before.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nice! 👍👍

[@billyjay4672]

Peter it's not that loud really ,but for everything else except spraying it will still do the job .

[@tympt1]

Great stuff Peter. Might I just add a comment about putting a couple of drops of oil in the gun every now and then to keep it lubricated. Always enjoy your vids.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Good point, thanks Barry! So is that like, every 10 years, wether it needs it or not?? 😂 👍

[@tympt1]

@@10MinuteWorkshop 😁 nice one! I do it to mine probably every third time I I use it. I’m sure it’s overkill, but can’t hurt!

[@lightmechanic2370]

Great vids. Always a pleasure to watch. Being commercial photographer like your previous career, I worked on a campaign for Hyundai that used a slogan something like: Hyundai - As in Sunday. Also like you, the business got weird and I do small residential contracting jobs for some years now. The stuff most contractors avoid so the work finds me, I never have to look for it. Sure do miss the fees we could charge ad agencies. Enjoy your 3rd career of entertaining education. Edutainment... A new word?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Edutainment- that’s right up there with ‘infomercial’ 😂👍👍

[@kevyjay]

I've loved your explanations sir. Be blessed.

[@harveydavison8562]

Good video. I have always used air nailers, they are a lot less hassle. I've just had to replace my last one (which I bought from argos 30 yrs ago).

[@DrunkenKnight71]

Thanks for the video! I bought the 50L Hyundai after watching Keith's video as I wanted to do a bit of spraying, it's a great bit of kit.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nice! 👍

[@richardballinger517]

I bought the 18g Silverline nailer some time ago now, £27. It's worked fine but have had problems getting the depth right so sometimes it would leave a bigger indent in the wood where the hammer bit has dug into the wood. It's been great for what I've used it for so far but a bit hit and miss if you want a clean finish. I've since bought an 18g Makita nailer. Obviously a bit more expensive than the Silverline but not that much moe, can't remember exactly? It has no nail hammer height adjustment, they are just flush with the wood surface, brilliant. I'm using a vertcle 50L SIP compressor which is fine for short bursts but proved useless for spraying, die grinding, sanding and the amount it has to keep filling itself/noise drives you nuts. Just hasn't got the balls to keep up or flow rate? Looking at a screw compressor next time.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Interesting - there's a no-mar tip on the 16g Silverline, but nothing on the 18g, though I've had no issues at all, so far. 👍

[@paultay23]

Great vid and great info Peter.... I have mains 18g nailer and a mains stapler.... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... I DON'T need a compressor or any air tools... ......................Going now before i buy some...

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Haha, thanks Paul! And at least these are relative 'cheapies' - and you know, once you have that compressor, the air tools are really very reasonable... 😂 👍

[@mururoa7024]

Another significant advantage of the compressed air guns is the reduced weight compared to battery powered electric nailers (when working in the shop of course).

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yep. 👍👍

[@artfulcodger]

I've had the exact same compressor for a while now, driving a Makita nailer and an air duster gun - it's been flawless so far. I do have it sat on a small piece of Yoga mat, which further reduces the noise.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Interesting, thanks! Do you have a solid floor, or suspended wooden floor, out of interest?

[@artfulcodger]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Suspended wooden floor, so the yoga mat just reduced a bit of boom. the Hyundai feet are nice and stable but quite firm, so transmitted vibration a little. Not that it was particularly loud, I was making some systainer padded linings out of a 20mm thick yoga mat I cut up, and there was a handy sized spare bit - tried it and thought yep that's better!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! I have a solid floor so it probably wouldn’t make that much difference for me, but good to know! 👍👍

[@handle1196]

You can now buy adaptors to make certain big name batteries fit other brands. They are around 15 quid.

[@trevormillard1339]

Hi Peter here in Australia we’ve been traditional buyers of oil type of compressors either alloy or cast iron heads and most people I know have either 10-12 cfm which is about the limit on 10 amp 240 volt. They are very much on the limit for spray painting.

[@andycutlergfd1]

Terrific as usual, very helpful.. nailed it ( sorry ) for me as I've been trying to figure out what combo to get ... Many thx Peter

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Andy! 👍

[@thomaslillethun]

It’s not just the tank size that matters for spraying but also the pumping speed or volume (cubic feet/minute) This also makes a big difference for the little air gun and even bigger framing nail guns. My first compressor had a 1 gallon tank but I was able to do smaller spraying jobs and use large nail guns because the pump was fast.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

A gallon is only 4.5 litres - this is almost twice the size, and I don’t recommend it for spraying. 🤷‍♂️

[@thomaslillethun]

For sure! Not as a recommendation. My little compressor pumped 2.6 cubic feet per minute, many little compressors do less than 1, which in essence means the pump is on much longer to fill a tank of the same size. For air spraying I believe you need at least 4 cubic feet/minute. Even with a big tank, be sure the pump is also up to the task

[@rick91443]

Thank you Peter. Have been kicking around the idea of buying a nailer(as a strict amateur,) for years now; much less expensive than I'd imagined AND I already possess a fairly large(buy noisy) compressor. cheers rr Normandy

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Richard! Yes, very impressed with the Silverline nailers, and quite astounded for the money! 👍

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

Excellent intro to compressors and brad guns. I also balked at the eye-watering price of the cordless 23g nailers. Although, I am on the Hitachi and Makita battery platform, I just couldn't justify £300+ outlay on a tool I wouldn't use that often. I toyed with the idea of going down the more affordable compressor route, but just didn't like the idea of the extra space needed, and the noise in a small garage workshop. Might just have another look, as that little compressor didn't sound loud at all. Thanks for sharing.👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, the compressor is actually quieter in use that it appears on this vid because it's under a bench, not at head-height. Very happy with it, and the idea that you can get a 23g nailer and a compressor for half the price of a bare cordless tool seems like a no-brainer, as long as you can fit the compressor in! 👍

[@stevehough8528]

My first nailer/stapler (a Stanley Stormforce) I wrecked in just a couple of weeks as I didn't pay enough attention to the air pressure (it was set too high). It didn't help that I did not have an in line oiler fitted. The nailer/stapler combination also left a mark the width of a staple when just using brads so when it failed I bought a separate brad nailer and a stapler and a pair of small inline oilers. Interesting video Peter, I look forward to the follow ups.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, the nailer/stapler striker size thing is the real drawback of them, that and the reduced capacity; separates are definitely preferable 👍

[@declancorrigan2776]

The reason for the short mains cable is to do with voltage drop. Attaching it to an extension cable will void your warranty. Best practice is to plud directly into an outlet and use a longer air line. The actual problem is to do with the current the motor draws, if the cable is capable of supplying the current EG 2.5mm2 no problem, if you put it on an extension these are generally 1.5mm2 and cannot supply the requirement of the motor, this causes the motor to overheat and possibly burn out. Of course you could replace the supplied cord with a 2.5mm2 flex.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

550w at 240v it’ll barely draw 2A, so I find that hard to believe. 🤷‍♂️

[@jasonmartin5430]

Nice informative video :) One reason (probably the main one) for short cables is to prevent voltage drop. Just use a longer hose ....

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

My sockets are 4’ off the floor. Longer hose won’t help the 3’ cable! 😂👍

[@merk9922]

Great vid. Just bought a milwaukee cordless 18gauge for on site. Fantastic tech, doesn't have the whirring up like other cordless ones I've used before.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, I think the Milwaukee ones are straight battery nailers, whereas others, like the Ryobi, are actually battery-powered compressors, hence the wirring and relative slowness. 👍

[@RunarMagnussen]

I've got two super cheap 18 gauge air nailers, and the second one I got because the first one was terrible! It can definitely be hit or miss with cheap nailers.

[@barrysmith5466]

You need to attach a pressure regulator with a built-in water trap,longer pins require a higher pressure and smaller ones lower pressure.

[@ChrisYid]

I love your videos Pete. I've learnt alot.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌

[@ChrisYid]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank You Pete for sharing your knowledge hints and tips! Your making a woodworker from a mechanic 🤣 Oh yeah I was going to tell you. In the latest version of the Parkside Tracksaw D1 (I believe) which I bought in February 2024. They are now made supplied by OWIM GmbH & Co KG Registergericht Stuttgart as opposed to Kompernass like the others were.. I contacted Owim Service about the possibility of getting 2 additional rails. Get this. They sent me 2 additional rails for FREE as a gesture of goodwill. They asked what was up with the ones I had I said nothing I haven't even used them yet but wanted additional rails for rip cuts. They were sent on a 48hr delivery from Germany by DHL!! Outstanding.. £75 purchase price 2800mm of track with the bars and a 3yr warranty I believe. Made my 1st use of it the other days and it cuts like a dream. Well as good as any 75 pound setup we can buy 🤣. I think I need to calm down with your videos though I'm buying so many tools that I haven't got and I've got lots already 🤣 Thanks Pete

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@ChrisYid Wow, that's a bargain! Interesting too that Kompernass are't the default go-to for extras; I'll make a note of that, thank you! Back when I was starting out I'd have killed to get this kind of functionality for £75! Then again, I'd probably have by-passed the whole Festool thing, lol! Cheers, Peter! 👍

[@rainerl-h259]

Thanks for an again very informative (instructive?) video especially for those, who work with a smaller budget and will not pay too much only for the name of the company!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Rainer! 👍

[@TigerCarpenter]

nice mini review I think I'll start my compressor journey with a unit big enough to allow the spray painting, so that I gain an extra functionality for slightly higher price tag.

[@WinoSnip]

Hi Peter - I think letting off the accumulating water in the tank once and a while… that is one of the basic things to know as well I think / I learned the hard way :-). I recently bought two Senco nailers - those work with a nitrogen cylinder which is brought to pressure with a acuity driven motor for each nail. Effective combination of techniques and nice to use.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Wino! 👍

[@grayharwood]

i read that compressors generally have very short cables to prevent Voltage Drop.

[@perrygunn8610]

Nice intro to compressors/nailers It's a 10 minute (workshop) job to replace the mains cable on the Hyundai compressors - I replaced mine with 4m of flexible rubber-sheathed 1.5mm H05RR-F (cost under £7 delivered). Should also mention that nailers need an occasional drip or two of oil.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, the lead is on my list of things to do with the compressor, but for now it's working out just fine. And oil a nail gun? Like every nine years, wether it needs it or not? 😂 👍

[@skf957]

A few years ago I took a punt on a Silverline 18g nailer. I paid around £20 for it, so wasn't expecting much. Well as PM said of his one, mine hasn't missed a beat. It even feels like a quality item when handled. I've had a few different Silverline tools in the last few years and I'd have to say that they've come on a long way.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Good to know mine wasn't just a flukey one-off! Have to say I'm impressed, and astounded for the money! 👍

[@tworiversworkshop6111]

Another good video Peter and thank you for the link to the mixed nail pack, which will be really useful. I bought the Silverline 18ga nailer on your recommendation a few months ago and have been very pleased with it!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Dawn! Great nailer at a great price. 👍👍

[@kittsdiy]

I have the 50 liter version of this Hyundai . I like it .. verry silent compared to a normal one.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Ah, good to know, thank you! 👍

[@WeekendShedHead]

Informative video Peter👍wish my compressor was that quiet.. but at least I know if I’ve left mine running when I’m back in the house.. 30m away from my workshop 😆

[@Pistol_Knight]

I just got rid of my compressor and 2 nail guns and bought the 18G Airstrike, only very useful (IMO) if its neatly put away in a corner of a workshop and the hoses 'Managed' above like a extraction system my old compressor was 111db!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

110dB! Yikes - ear defenders a must! 👍

[@benjaqsonworkshop9974]

Good to know the Silverline pin-nailer is reliable - makes it worth a look. I've been using the 'silent' Hyundai 24L for a couple of years now with an 18-gauge Stanley and it's been faultless as well as quiet when it cuts in - which is good for my heart! The cable was surprisingly short...

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, the cable seems surprisingly short on a lot of compressors! 🤷‍♂️

[@natashagomperts4539]

HI Peter, I have just bought this compressor, (my first compressor) to power a new mini spray gun for spraying glaze onto my ceramic pieces. I wonder if you could answer some questions which were not answered in the supplied instructions. 1, Is the safety valve the same as the water valve at the bottom of the tank or is there a further safety mechanism? 2, In the models which are demonstrated by Adam on the Hyundai chanel, there is second gage which measures outlet, this comes with an adjuster knob I suppose for High Pressure Low Volume outlet, do you know if it is possible to to get this second gage as I understand that low volume is preferable for spraying. I bought this compressor because I had to purchase a portable machine as the spray room is 50m away from my storage space. Many thanks Natasha

[@carforumwanker]

Bambi and Hyundai make great compressors

[@jimbo2629]

I bought a cheap corded nailer. It was horrible to use and didn’t last. I then bought the Ryobi 18v nail gun as I already had other Ryobi tools including battery and charger. There has been no looking back. It takes up very little space and there is freedom of use. For me it’s a no brainer. I see you have one on the shelf behind you.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yep, cheap corded ones have never failed to disappoint. I like my Ryobi air strike stapler, less so the 16g nailer. Also really rankles how cheap these tools are in the US, when they ask DeWalt and Makita money for the identical tool here in the UK. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@jimbo2629]

I think I bought mine in USA and despite import charges it was cheaper.