My First Ever Game of AUTOMATE CHESS

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[@cross5574]

Opponent: **Strategically thinking out their piece placement** Eric: "Siri, whats a three dimensional rectangle?"

[@skknireeker9073]

So what is it?

[@IONProd]

@@skknireeker9073 A cuboid

[@gtjevptje0491]

@@IONProd really?

[@IONProd]

@@gtjevptje0491 Also a rectangular prism.

[@unknownalsounknown4238]

its a cuboid

[@Emerald-Fluffie]

“You can’t mate with horses” No... no you cannot... that is very illegal

[@JR-White]

The furry speaks with authority

[@philismenko]

Underrated comment cause everyone in the world can't like it twice

[@chongus3092]

Lol

[@AethernaLuxen]

What made you think you can kink shame my people Horses are handsome and majestic

[@BH_Restorative_fitness]

You can as long as the opponent has a center pawn.

[@watermelon2977]

"Stockfish doesn't really understand chess" :0

[@gabbygabbe1894]

Rather, stockfish here is at 18 depth, not max depth posible, so ofc some moves are weaker compared to what stockfish would usually play here. Another problem is I think stockfish plays both sides, so I wonder how that affects it.

[@ieee12345]

@@gabbygabbe1894 Stockfish is developed entirely by playing against itself, really it's kind of the norm for it.

[@felixmerz6229]

@@ieee12345 I don't think that's true, form my understanding, Stockfish is a tree-search algorithm. Either I misunderstand that or you've confused Stockfish with AlphaZero.

[@vivtakanamalaa]

@@gabbygabbe1894 Stockfish plays moves assuming the opponent will play the best possible move so it wouldn't affect it

[@tunahanculcu4111]

@@ieee12345 wait stockfish developed by playing against itself? i thought it was just database and opening books.

[@ranjanrao3404]

I love how he gets excited "woo i can make a pawn cube, i can make a pawn rectangle" 😂😂

[@pearrot]

Realizes top comment has 1000 likes and no comments, this is free real estate

[@mewhenthe1]

fre relitsat

[@tasinibrahim95]

@@mewhenthe1 are you high?

[@mewhenthe1]

@@tasinibrahim95 only on Tuesday

[@aaronjosegalan4297]

Wow, 5 replies in a comment with 1500 likes, sus

[@johnwu5908]

Finally, a real autochess

[@nhatminh-pd4sl]

Underated comment 😂😂

[@fadhrigabestari4963]

Yea lul they cant use that name because its already taken by moba autochess

[@hoola_amigos]

I don't get it 🙄

[@jaishkhan7442]

Better than that shitty and boring af Moba Autochess

[@reyboyvideogames]

@@fadhrigabestari4963 you mean dots underlords?

[@StefanReich]

3:37 "I only had 8 pawns to be" - has placed 10 pawns

[@hoola_amigos]

Ohh Eric!

[@bobsimpsons3351]

Cool

[@peekachugaming3231]

He said 8 out of muscle memory. 8 pawns are on the board usually so he expected it to be limited to 8 when he realized he cant place anymorte.

[@pairot01]

@@peekachugaming3231 He assumed instead of counting

[@StefanReich]

@@peekachugaming3231 It might show that he is human. Not sure

[@muskyoxes]

"the engine doesn't understand the strategy" - well, it'd help to give it more than three microseconds per move. That was set ludicrously quick.

[@F1ng0riginal]

I dunno man, depth 18 is pretty deep.

[@tunahanculcu4111]

@@F1ng0riginal not really

[@mooncalf_4534]

@@tunahanculcu4111 Depth 18 shreds basically anyone

[@JelleStreet]

In this case, Eric is just wrong. You can set up the position he paused at (8:30) and no matter how long you let the engine run the evaluation is 0.0 - clearly it's a drawn endgame.

[@NLTops]

@@JelleStreet Yeah, I don't get where his insane confidence in knights comes from. There's a reason rooks are worth more points than knights.

[@tejaskarthickthangaperumal9530]

Eric : That can't be a good strategy Also Eric: Has 5 doubled pawns and 7 knights

[@nepunepu5894]

doubled pawns alone weak, doubled pawns together strong.

[@TheRaspberryFlavored]

I like how he says "ah I wanted symmetry" 10 moves after symmetry had become unattainable

[@phanmanhhung136]

''My pawns are shaped like a rectangle, or just a square that's been widened''

[@joeshmo546]

Rosen: "Siri, whats a three dimensional rectangle?" Siri:"here's what I found" Rosen:"oh your not as funny as Alexa" *sad Siri noises*

[@poseidonsmafia1160]

you're

[@loki-kt1jy]

​@@poseidonsmafia1160 "You're" is a grammatically incorrect sentence. I apologize for being a nitpicky twat as I recognize that someone calling someone out on the internet for grammatical errors is extremely annoying.

[@RogueEvasion]

@@loki-kt1jy how is “you’re” incorrect here? Oh you are not as funny as Alexa.

[@user-nj6ku8yx9p]

@@loki-kt1jy "You're" is correct as it is a contraction of "you are," whereas "your" is a determiner and is usually a possessive determiner, it's basic English. Correcting grammar is fine IMHO, it's part of feedback especially for common mistakes like these. What's even more annoying is people that try to correct what's already correct and get it wrong. It can get frustrating when someone tries to sound smart, but if you realize it firsthand and made the situation worse then you know it's a wrong approach.

[@SCHLMF]

@@poseidonsmafia1160 No YOU're

[@demerzel3798]

Eric: *makes a big pawn rectangle* Also Eric: I feel like I'm messing this up

[@tastlite]

LOL

[@adjunctentobtuse721]

Sooo it’s autochess with actual chess pieces

[@maxe159]

Autochess-chess if you're willing

[@halfaheartbongobongo]

When I play automate chess I play all the Agadmator setups. Trying to prep "very nice rook lifts", "the bishop pair from Hell", "monster knights", and "doubled rooks on the X file"

[@joshuajodrian7364]

Finally, a variant where I'm higher rated than Eric

[@bobsimpsons3351]

Cool

[@throwaway569]

Okay

[@redrobsanthem9206]

Nice

[@NStripleseven]

Huh

[@omg8724]

Bruh

[@KatoTornado]

“You’re not as fun as Alexa” Eric Rosen, 2020

[@krytycznyziemniok2394]

That was sad

[@ammaarkadri3221]

Sadge

[@ahmetemin1721]

I was loking for this comment :D

[@pecfexfextus4437]

i love how eric's always excited about pawn cubes, pawn rectangles and connect four/five

[@quirenciatala437]

Cuboid, we call it a cuboid Eric.

[@eggshibe3149]

rectangular prism

[@nicholastidemann9384]

@@eggshibe3149: more specifically a right rectangular prism; also known as a cuboid.

[@MrUwU-dj7js]

Regular parallelepiped also works

[@Nico-dt5hu]

in indonesia, we call it a brick.

[@nicholastidemann9384]

@@MrUwU-dj7js: actually, it would be a rectangular parallelepiped; a regular parallelepiped would have all equal surfaces, meaning that it would either be a perfect cube (a very special case), or that all the surfaces would be rhombuses.

[@vendingdudes]

Your commentary is priceless lol "The knights will maybe just chill." "A massive palace of greatness."

[@bobsimpsons3351]

Cool

[@Morphior]

"Stockfish really doesn't understand chess!" - Eric Rosen 2020

[@kingprick6849]

Usually I'm shouting about forks or something uselessly at the screen, this video had me shouting "Cuboid". Life comes at you fast

[@Nypriot]

Same lol

[@durbatul8153]

I remember one of my first games I had a king vs 2 knights and a king. At one point my computer could've drawn by repetition but it decided to play a different move and play out the game, because it apparently thought it had checkmating opportunities with just a king. I got checkmated... in a drawn endgame...

[@danielglidewell]

You were the one with just a king right? I'm not surprised the computer would want to keep playing then. 2 knights isn't enough to force checkmate, but checkmate is still possible if you walk into it.

[@MClilypad]

@@danielglidewell so if you only have a King, the best you can get is a draw, so why not offer it? No reason to keep playing

[@danielglidewell]

@@MClilypad Right, but the original comment made it sound like the computer should be the one forcing a draw even though the computer has more than just a king. If the computer actually had just a king then OC's last sentence is impossible.

[@tracyh5751]

@@danielglidewell This is about auto chess. Two computers are playing against each other on human's behalf. Durbatul is saying that the computer for him had an opportunity to force a draw when it only had one king, but refused and eventually was mated. This is not ideal as a king by itself can at best take a drawn outcome.

[@danielglidewell]

@@tracyh5751 Ahhh ok that makes sense, now I understand thank you. The use of "I" and "My computer" without explicit context confused me lol

[@alexismandelias]

Nobody: Eric: 3 dimensional parallelogram Mathematicians: *parallelepiped*

[@nephronpie8961]

Eric: Alexa, what's a 3d rectangle called? Me: A cuboid Eric: Alexa, write that down, write that down!!

[@danielkabakov]

Quader

[@Pedro-fh9ec]

brick

[@tolkienfan1972]

Orthogonal parallelepiped

[@justinbrockhaus4389]

This would be sick with leela instead of stockfish for more long term ideas

[@taco3131]

"I don't wanna play with you anymore" ~Eric after using Siri once

[@bobsimpsons3351]

Cool

[@comradered8125]

Eric Rosen: Stockfish doesn't know how to play chess. Stockfish hierarchy: And You got defeated by level 1.

[@patricktho6546]

that was just because level 1 is op with 1 min no icrement...

[@Swash984]

@@patricktho6546 I don't know, I faced level 1 and just used my queen. It never took it. xD

[@patricktho6546]

@@Swash984 in Bullet? Eric got decimated :)

[@Swash984]

@@patricktho6546 Yeah, I did bullet and other game modes.. the level 1 never gave me trouble. It is the lowest difficulty after all. I was actually trying to lose by it. Maybe Eric just gets unlucky lol

[@tunahanculcu4111]

@@Swash984 30 seconds with no increment on level 1 is like stockfish 5 on 1 minute. I dont understand the logic but its like that.

[@joeyharrington1863]

"Oh no, my agency!"

[@therealclp7488]

Underrated comment

[@moisturizedpotato179]

This reminds me of the totally accurate battle simulator just in chess

[@xirenzhang9126]

The strat for automate chess is pretty similiar to rock paper scissors, one type of setup can best another but fails to another, in general queens can get countered by bishop knights pawns, bishops and knights get countered by pawns, and pawns are pretty op ngl. Knights are pretty shit in endgames btw

[@tranquil_cove4884]

I just won two games where I put an aggressive trapezoid of 10 pawns in the center, bishops in the corners, a queen and a king. I think it might be The Strat

[@DEMERN]

Not gonna lie, ive found success just spamming knights

[@twen7yseven]

Interesting! I would be happy to see more, always enjoy your content.

[@MichaelIhde69]

I really love this. I'd be interested to see more and hear you explain your strategy and test out different ones.

[@teekay3747]

i love how Eric is easily excited ...eg "ohhh i can make a pawn cube"... watching his videos is so much fun

[@Jake_the_Brick]

I would really love to see more of this. Even just a couple more games of crazy ideas

[@sashirmunoz3780]

Thanks for the amazing content Eric!!!

[@eladyitzhak5320]

Eric describing Siri: "You're not as fun as Alexa" 😂 😂 😂

[@TheMathguy345]

a 3d rectangle is still a rectangle, The dimensions of an object does not change with point of view. The term you are looking for though is "cuboid" which is a stretched out cube.

[@HMASbogan]

This was so calming to watch. Also the first video of this channel that I came by

[@JoeKell365]

i did a little bit of testing after watching this video and found a decent starting position: it's exactly the same as normal, but put additional pawns on e3 and d3 and instead of a queen, place a rook. i'm assuming Automate doesn't allow castling, but other than that it seems really solid the actual starting position is also really good. my first time with it i checkmated on move 49

[@chriscatino5950]

I made this same concept up in my head at 2 in the morning and someone goes and builds it man so much for my big idea XD

[@AyushDaga]

Eric @6:44 ooh these knights are kinda like horses 😂😂

[@petersmythe6462]

I've had some success with Bishop swarm, All in queens, all in rooks, and more. But the thing is what you really need to do is think about how to gain the initial advantage against what they're building. One way to do this is to mess their arrangement up by threatening some specific piece or pawn.

[@Xcyiterr]

good advice actually

[@vedangarekar1390]

Commenting twice for engagement so this variant picks up. The kind of engine king moves you get is worth admiring. I just get awestruck and watch it like the moving piece of art it is.

[@davidramosby8288]

Nobody is more excited about pawn setups than Eric, love it.

[@blackman7186]

This is like a real battle where you control your army formation on the battlefield

[@LFSPharaoh]

1:27 PAWN CUBE :O ... ooOOoohh Omg lol

[@vedangarekar1390]

Glad Rosen found this variant. It's really a fun format.

[@NOKLAFF]

Please more of this!!!

[@imperialrecker7111]

I was screaming in the screen cuboid when he asked what's a three dimensional rectangle.

[@cashiscamping5126]

I’m just getting back into chess after watching Charlie beat xqc in 6 and ‘the queens gambit’; thanks for having so many awesome instructive videos

[@cashiscamping5126]

@Anton Anton I’ve been watching Charlie for about 7 years. He’s such a pure soul I’d follow him through the gates of hell and back haha. I used to really like chess but his reintroduction was a fresh start to finding real pros like Eric and Hikaru and Daniel and Magnus. All of them I would never have known about if not for that one pogchamps tourney

[@usuallinkinultimate]

Was anyone else hoping Eric would actually play from that position and do better than the engine?

[@kellamyoshikage286]

I feel like you could use machine learning to tackle this, as to what's the best strategy for placing a piece set. I wonder how that would go.

[@curtisw0234]

The problem with knights is they can be slow and take quite a few moves to reach their maximum potential. If you have too many knights you are choked in terms of the moves you can make to have them become valuable. I've had games of chess where I didn't even need to develop my bishops to have them contribute to the game. For the same to be true with knights is very rare. Clearly you were going with the synergy between closed positions and knights which was pretty interesting

[@nicbentulan]

i wish we could have like automate choker (not to replace the regular choker). i figure it's a way to test piece placement (and poker). maybe like a deathmatch or something as a practice for the real choker. idk.

[@emmettdja]

It would be cool if it was like a tower defense gamemode where you place peices as the game goes on and captured peices gain points to spend on material

[@karansandhu4827]

Well this was fun. Post more of these

[@DanielDugovic]

1:50 My earlier comments were read! :o Thanks Eric and happy Thanksgiving!

[@josim5290]

Thank you, Sir! 👍🏼

[@GiuocoPianissimo]

A 3-dimensional rectangle is a cuboid.

[@Sapphire9689]

Why play the Giuoco Pianissimo when you could sacrifice all your material in the Jerome gambit

[@mehdia5176]

Please do more of these

[@veryfingg9372]

Puts down 10 pawns in a rectangle “I feel like I’m messing this up”

[@DeepFriedOreoOffline]

For anyone who's wondering, a 3 dimensional rectangle is just a square cylinder, lol. Or a rectangular prism if you want to get technical.

[@GrayHatter]

Eric, you should challenge GothamChess to that position where you think the engine lost it. I'd like to see how to play it out by a couple of masters that are fun to watch. Also, I'd love it if you did more games like this, I would never have known the winning move was to walk your king in.

[@nef36]

It's good to see that Eric's starting strategy is identical to mine XD

[@greekfreak39]

They need to bring this back, it was fun.

[@24pavlo]

parallelepiped

[@christianvikkels4801]

Eric: I'm probably gonna commentate this. Also Eric: Waow, illuminati triangle!

[@Hoonter]

"Automate chess but I just make the Stafford Gambit"

[@ghostbluster8900]

Eric looking like a toddler playing lego :) i love him

[@kevinc7600]

Totally accurate chess simulator TACS

[@flippythefish343]

2:32 “you are not as fun as Alexa” @eric Rosen u know that Tim Cook can see your videos too?

[@Chakkaly]

2 engines play to a draw. Eric: 😲

[@leo25darklight]

If rectangles of same dimensions are stacked upon one another keeping their vertices aligned, it becomes a 3D figure known as CUBOID.

[@timcorman9094]

this position was really good I had something similar during my first game

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

The first round of Automate Chess I played, I put down 2 queens cause I could, I actually waited a bit to set the 2nd one down. I actually won that round hilariously!

[@columbus8myhw]

A 3D rectangle is a cuboid, or rectangular prism

[@kevingeorge5159]

"Botez, what's a 3-dimensional cube?"

[@jeffk1722]

I think since you only get 8 pawns per side, I'd load up on bishops instead (and of course not have a rectangle in that case). Eric didn't know that of course, so a bunch of pawns and some knights was a good initial thought IMO.

[@cheesiechess3656]

I do 6 pawns and all knights against anything had great success with it.

[@santaisreal]

So it's basically last stand in PVZ. That's cool

[@JustCallMe_Yolo]

Opponent: that was a bad move. *draws game*

[@EntityVsEntityInteractions]

I have a feeling that the reason why stockfish doesn't think ahead here is the extremely short time controls. I honestly wouldn't mind having 2 seconds of analysis between each move.

[@ALadCalledPruitt]

2:07 for "Alexa, what's a 3-dimensional rectal"

[@shami4236]

3d rectangle is called a cuboid! Prism actually has 3 rect. faces and 2 triangular faces.

[@squash9189]

Rosen: Oh no, I’m running out of points! *proceeds to have 7 more points than opponent*

[@michaelsmith8367]

"Oh you're not as fun as alexa" -Eric

[@test-ml9wr]

When was this streamed? I want to watch more.

[@harveybrewis5113]

It was I believe

[@Kingofgnome]

would be nice to see you take over the (end)game and show engine how to play chess

[@piotrfila3684]

a 3d rectangle is a cuboid there is also a 3d parallelogram, a parallelopiped

[@mikahfeldman-stein3470]

Eric, you set off my Alexa at 2:07

[@REKHAsINGH-rr2ds]

Love form India bro biggest fan of yours and bcoz of u I learned the best gambit Stafford gambit😊😊

[@sollertia_]

How does everyone always forget the cuboid? For me it's the other way round, I remember the cuboid but sometimes forget what a cube is called

[@deleteduser6774]

@eric Rosen a 3d rectangle is called a cuboid

[@tristanyablonski1982]

When he tried to ask Alexa it activated mine 🤣

[@tomasbeltran04050]

I remember just placing 3 queens, 6 pawns, king and probably a rook or bishop with what was left

[@andresmckay3672]

A 3D - rectangle is a rectangular parallelepiped

[@nicbentulan]

reminds me of choker (chess and poker)!

[@rhose8679]

rectangular prism jeez eric

[@poseidonsmafia1160]

A3-dimenisonal rectangle is called a Cuboid

[@xavier1964]

When I played this mode I ragequit after watching the engine draw a 2 rook vs king and pawn endgame by sacrificing both rooks for the pawn

[@stolencinnamon6230]

eric: whats a 3 dimensional rectangle, a prism ?, his 2nd grade maths teacher: 😐