My First Impressions On The New 11.0 Hero Talents (Druid, Hunter & Priest)

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[@TheOmegaSupereme]

As a moonkin. All I want is the dot ramp in mythic plus and astral power mini games from talents like Starlord, B.O.A.T etc to fuck right off.

[@Nallebjoern]

Well...what's left of the class after that? Just managing eclipse? Sounds quite boring tbh.

[@AKRenlor]

@@Nallebjoern paraphrasing the words of Venruki and Asmongold 'Wow devs have done a great job of creating rotations that are interesting for people that make WoW their Job. For everyone else they are more complicated than they need to be.' Balance druid is deceptively seen as easy in that on the surface it is multi-dotting, managing eclipse, and spending. When you really have 6-9 Attack Spells, 1-2 Buff spells, and 15-16 status/buffs/debuffs.

[@sethsullivan3986]

Any1 else think Keeper of the Grove should be an alternative form? Like replaces Stag or even Balance form with a new animation model (like a dryad or Cenarius). You gain SOME balance stuff and some resto stuff: maybe starfall and effloresce that are castable while moving? Just a thought.

[@dustinfidalgo915]

I personally think expansiveness is a good talent. I know we shouldn’t be over capping but there is always going to be that moment when it does. Especially when a free full moon procs. This gives us a free starsurge if we were to overcap. A free starsurge means getting into pulsar that much faster

[@Mstrskeletor89]

Seems to me like the 5 regrowth thing is tailored to work with clear casting procs for restoration and a 100% increase starfire is a dmg increase for resto imo

[@Manoomu]

What’s weird is that for every other talent the balance part is on top and the resto is on the bottom. Unless both specs get both effects it seems weirdly swapped.

[@christopherneil8265]

I’m a little confused about the Cenarius’ Might node. For Balance, you can cast either spender to get the buff and keep the buff. And when you’re out of AP, you cast generators, lose the buff, then drain the well again. I don’t know why Naguura is saying that “you just sit there”. Is she talking about immobility while casting generators?

[@AKRenlor]

As it reads its basically like Starlord, but if you cast anything other than a spender you loose the stacks. It promotes you having max AP, then start spending, and not cast any builders again until your out of AP, or you have to wait for natural regen of AP to get anything more out of the buff at the 2 stacks. Currently that means you are getting no more than 1-2 Surges out at max stacks and likely never for starfall due to cost, without standing idle for multiple seconds. If you only do it until your AP bottoms out, you then have to be a turret as you mentioned until you are back up to dumping again. Not hasted that looks like what 5-6 casts of wrath while dots are ticking to get back up to full. That is a long time to be standing still.

[@Atljeepboy]

Maybe they are going to offer Keeper of the Grove as a choice if you are going with Trees??

[@kfactor99]

nah u just play Elune's Chosen. balance/guardian hero talents. these tree talents are swamp ass for boomkin.

[@Sebleh]

25:15 Bruh are you eating a raw bell pepper? This whole tree would be infinitely better if you didn't have to waste a point so high up in the spec tree. It would feel a lot better if it was a talent in the class tree or a baseline spell. At least the other hero talent tree they showed at Blizzcon was based around Moons/Fury which we always take.

[@bluemagic21]

5 prepull regrowth comment from the chatter had me dead

[@rmvanravesteijn]

A talent tree on a talent tree, great.

[@lemonjuice1471]

mohsch mol ontwortn schsich sichi schworez

[@GouacheGaming]

The problem too is that it then makes it hard to balance classes for average players and elite the more complex and the more potential that these support classes have. IF they balance around the elite then the average players will suffer since they cant maximize the potential of the support classes. League of Legends has this problem too with champions that are designed to be more difficult to play or higher skill cap, these champions end up being horrible at low ello and have horrible winrates because Riot will balance these champions around pro players maximizing the champions strengths.

[@AvatarRoku22]

as a resto who flexes balance i hate trees for both specs. they arent fun to play around and these hero talants are making me reconsider maining druid

[@eXpr3s]

One thing that has Always grinded my gears and Made literaly zero sence to me why they even did this move and whoever came up with this idea, obviously does not care nor play balance: why just WHY do we have to cast slow AOE spells to enter a single target rotation.. and cast fast SINGLE TARGET spells to enter a AOE rotation, its clunky and makes literaly zero nadda No sence in a gameplay perspective what so ever. Can they just change it so we make it and get a more fluid playstyle?

[@natholex]

Casting 2 Wrath’s is the same as cast 1 Wrath with 100% damage buff lol

[@eXpr3s]

I feel like they need to bring in a actual balance druid that actulay plays balance druid that knows the class how its played and knows al the flaws of balance druid to actualy sort the talents and al with balance druid. Like why still do we have to play aoe to enter single target and play single target to enter aoe? Most unfun clunky playstyle idea ever

[@osaca2273]

You're turning into Asmongold with all of this complaining :(

[@johnathantroxtel1502]

THIS IS THE WORST FOR BOOMKINS!! What prodigies at Blizz thought this was a good idea?! They ALL NEED TO BE FIRED!

[@eXpr3s]

I am 100% certain the whoever sits and designs this and designs druid in general, does not or has not ever played balance druid. Play aoe to enter single target. Play single target to enter aoe.. still to this day 3 minutes cooldowns when al other classes as far as i know has 2 minutes and ways to lower their cooldowns. Every class as far as i know has burst singel target and burst aoe. Balance dont. Every class has easy aoe. Balance has long ramp aoe that makes is kind of crap in any key under what, 25? You can be outfamaged by most if not al classes that are 10-20 item levels lower then you in keys under 20, you can be outdamaged by a tank in keys under 20 even… our rotation is al around eclipse, but we kind of loose damage when we are in eclipse becaus our damage needs to be spent kind of within the first 2-3 seconds of the eclipse becaus our crit drops the longer we stay in a eclipse even tho our entire playstyle is centered around eclipse… whoever Made the current balance druid, should be someone that plays and knows the class, and as i Said, i am 100% sure that the person/persons designing balance druid. Does not play balance

[@johnathantroxtel1502]

@@eXpr3s ABSOLUTELY! 100%!! Pair Orbital Strike with Mushrooms as an either-or talent. And Orbital Strike has a 1 min cd. That would help our burst in mythic+ and raids.

[@eXpr3s]

@@johnathantroxtel1502 they should make incarn a 2 min cd also imo. Look hunters cds and they can reduce them even

[@fiesbert5677]

I played this game for decades and listened to you for like 20 minutes and i understand NOTHING. This game became bloated with unneeded complexity over the years

[@showmetheheaterz2998]

Well it’s only been out for 19 years so that’s tough…

[@showmetheheaterz2998]

But agreed, it can be complex; but the synergies between talents can feel very fun, min maxing optimal play is so goddamn tedious though.