My Girlfriend Is Obsessed With Her Friend's Relationship r/Relationships

[@skullphantom705]

I must have missed a few videos to the point where I have absolutely no idea of what the couch story is, but now I'm intrigued. Anyone has the link?

[@Markee]

www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/vwkyoz/oop_has_to_deal_with_her_mother_dressing_up_as/

[@skullphantom705]

@@Markee Thanks man! Edit: I am now traumatized.

[@TheSwordmanDrake]

Now that was just mean

[@Cooper016]

The only time Markee will respond to comments now is to scar them. Welcome to the scarred corner bro.

[@zafarsyed6437]

PTSD due to the word "couch"... that's going to be a tricky one for psychologist to handle.

[@poooooopy69]

I thought the 3rd OP was being overdramatic until the update! It's absolutely awful that they instilled in him such heavy shame around sexuality and dating, but when they sleep around, it's somehow okay? Like make it make sense??? I don't have any issues with polyamory but to punish your child for masturbating when you're having sex with multiple people is so hypocritical 😤 They were also neglecting him physically and emotionally in pursuit of their lifestyle which is NOT okay!

[@jimmyjohnjuan]

Poly is some weirdo ish. But what a lot people do is "do as I say and not as I do" which is a philosophy I abhor. Parent tell there kids not to smoke, drink or do drugs but they do it.

[@sadtitties222]

@@jimmyjohnjuan Dude, stop. Poly is not "weird". It's different. You're starting to sound like people who say that being queer is "weird" because it's different from heterosexuality. It's not weird just because you don't understand it. It's as valid as monogamy. You don't have to participate in it yourself and no one should ever force you into it, BUT there are actual real life healthy poly people who are just trying to live their lives without judgement from actual weirdos who are obsessed with the s*x lives of strangers that they don't know a damn thing about. If you want monogamy, that's fine. If you want polyamory, that's fine. It's no one else's business but your own. Also, to compare to healthy poly relationships to smoking and drinking?! Lol, are you joking?! Smoking and drinking are in no way comparable to poly relationships. To believe so is increasing inane and naive. Smoking and drinking excessively can kill you and harm your body. Knowing that Poly relationships and poly people exist will not kill or harm you, lol.

[@amemooress6291]

Okay. That extra info makes this story make way more sense. Because their parents traumatized them regarding sex and marriage... then expected them to just accept their open marriage because they said so.

[@MONKEYDZETS]

@@sadtitties222 it is weird hence why I I isn’t the norm and why people don’t bring it up

[@sadtitties222]

@@MONKEYDZETS Believe it or not, poly, open, and multiple marriages have been a thing for a LONG time. They go as far back as the Bible coming into existence. Hell, even the Bible has several important figures who had multiple partners. It's not as uncommon as the world would like you to believe. And again, being queer or non-heterosexual is still classified by homophobes as being "weird" and not the "norm" as Heterosexuality, but we know damn well that non-Heterosexuals and non-Cis people have been around for thousands of years. People being in the closet and hiding who they are from society out of fear and to protect themselves also helped with this belief that only Heterosexuals and Cis people were the "norm" and it's the same with Poly people. There are tons of books and websites dedicated to this topic, so I'd recommend you to crack open a book and do your own research. Just a thought.

[@surrealistgirlx]

OP was abused - plain & simple. They were negligence, abandoned & experienced mental cruelty. When a child is experiencing trauma you as a parent stop, listen & ask how to help. You hold them even when they stop crying. Continuing these behaviors when you are hurting your child is sick This is heartbreaking. It made me cry. Then you were living in your car, couch surfing & at school to avoid that. I am amazed at what a well adjusted person you are. Find a therapist who has experience with PTSD, especially childhood ptsd. Wishing you much happiness.

[@cheekyweb8055]

That one OP needs freaking therapy. The parents also didn’t handle the situation well. They needed to put him in therapy at the time all of that was happening.

[@piiinkDeluxe]

They were neglectful in a lot of things it seems.

[@amandasunshine2]

@@piiinkDeluxe how?

[@mkay4]

@@amandasunshine2 op said that the reason they were gone all the time was because of the open relationship. They weren’t there for birthdays and baseball practices. He had to teach himself how to ride a bike and to shave. Basic parent things.

[@amandasunshine2]

@@mkay4 I see that now. I find it very interesting how story 2 and 3 are basically the same, except the responses are veerrrryy different.

[@piiinkDeluxe]

@@amandasunshine2 what that person said above me. Also he said they never helped him deal with it, he was clearly upset and unable to process and the parents just left him be instead of reassuring him and helping him process. Also he said he lived at friends' places and in a car, which is neglect from the parents' side not to intervene (if he was still a minor at the time). He literally said himself he had to completely emotionally disconnect from them to deal. This experience obviously traumatized him. The signs for that: 1. emotional disconnect (as described by himself) 2. an emotional response as if the situation just happened (as pointed out in the comments - it's a sign you didn't process an event, the emotions are either not there (suppressed) or appear "fresh" 3. The neglect - even with a neutral look at the situation (as long as he told the truth), what his parents did was to neglect his needs.

[@askillissue]

Reddit in story 2 was hella onions. They’re stressing on how little the number difference is when the maturity of high school and adult hood is so different that there is a power imbalance from the very beginning.

[@hollowkid97]

Maybe they're from Europe where they care less about that. Ik if I dated a 17 yearold at 20 I would get looks. At least in canada

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Reddit is full of hypocrisy and idiots. Always changing their tunes

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

I know 2 girls who began dating when one of them was 17 and the other 23. Funnily enough, the younger one asked the older one out lol. I personally find the age gap iffy but now, 3 years later, I can say there is no difference between them maturity-wise. Maybe it's because they are both women idk

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@j.j.juggernaut9709 I had that age gap in my work place, guy was 23 and girl was 17

[@kijackson8374]

What power difference here though? He’s 20, she’s 17, OP is 18, roommate is probably 17-20. They’re all in school. She’s graduating in 3 months. They’re not sexual. They’re 2/3 years apart. They’re in the same circle. If they were both in highschool they’d be a sophomore and a senior. If they looked up the state laws for AOC it’s most likely legal especially because they’re not sexual.

[@potatoempress5731]

10/10 dramatic reading. Tony award winning Markee.

[@starbird3939]

Story 3 Update … Wait, so they shamed OP for exploring sexuality while they are polyamorous.

[@catandrobbyflores]

Pot meet kettle moment right there.

[@PrincessAmanante]

OP put it perfectly. Their carnal desires were blessings, his were sins.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

"But it's differeeeeeeent" -Every parent like these two ever

[@lydianelson7737]

Story 1: Since when is dropping hints an effective form of communication? I don’t get why everyone was backing OP’s GF like that, but I think OP should have also handled the situation better

[@skyelindsey687]

It’s Reddit where men are trash who need to learn how to communicate and get hints but women can do almost nothing wrong unless it’s something generally frowned upon in society.

[@Latashaharris95]

Right shes ah everyone relationship is very different and before you get in a relationship you need to have standards in a relationship

[@user-nb8tk6hh6x]

Reddit is full of toxic people who do toxic things so they don’t want to point out that expecting your partner to be a kind reader is asshole behavior

[@PurpleHeartsOnFire]

And then to break up with him through a text is the icing on the bad communication cake.

[@moviegal6000]

I agree with this 100%. I mean OP could have come at it a different way but adults talk about what they want and this passive hinting bs is ridiculous. I don’t think OP was the AH here.

[@toxicdotaep2890]

OP of the "my parents are polyam + not in my life" story needs therapy not because of their inability to accept their parents' lifestyle but because their parents clearly did not care for their mental health. they seem neglectful and i think the way they handled OP finding out about their arrangement(s) is just the absolute pinnacle of that neglect, like the straw that broke the camel's back

[@pippo17173]

The parents litterly set their own son up for a mental breakdown. Like I know kids shouldn't know the details but for the love of god, just give them the kid friendly version of it and they will understand. Seroulsy that break down in the post is just....jesus.

[@fluidwolf]

@@pippo17173 It's not even that but their whole lifestyle contradicts all that they indoctrinated him into. The worldview they pushed onto him clashes with their own actions. His entire world is that of people that taught him that self pleasure is sinful yet are literally jumping into so many people's beds in the middle of the day instead of taking care of him and not even caring how it effects him. These people should not be parents because they seem actively malicious

[@pippo17173]

@Ryuho the Wolf ya that bothers me too. Honestly even if the excuse is they live in a conservative church area, the way op mention sure show they don't give a crap hiding it.

[@magnarcreed3801]

@@fluidwolf Right. Like if they were casual the entire time and OP found out it would be a “huh, neat.” And move on moment.

[@Memento_Mori_Morals]

I disagree his parents are freaking loving compared to mine. I was beaten and left to be SA'd and nearly killed by my 1st bf. This boy needs to grow up and either not talk to his parents or just realize that they weren't actually so evil. There are actually people with truly abusive parents out there, people like him exaggerating makes me upset tbh.

[@laurameier7069]

I definitely need more dramatic readings by Markee in my life.

[@randomusername3873]

"She is telling you what she wants in the relationship" Can't she, like, talk then? And then the classic assumption that the Op is a bad person because "there must be a reason she doesn't tell him" as if the reason couldn't be that she is bad at comunication

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Yeah, I'm female and I HATE the "mind reading" routine some females demand their partners do!

[@zebnemma]

The way the story from his side was described it sounded like she was talking about the friend + friends bf constantly. That to me doesn't just seem like hinting. That would make me feel like she's trying to compare and say "our relationship is so bad compared to theirs, why are you so much suckier then my friends boyfriend". If you hear stuff like that constantly then who wouldn't snap??? That sounds passive agressive toxic honestly and I would not put up with that either. I'm a girl too, but not all girls are like this but sometimes when girls do shitty things Reddit love to jump to the girls defense. Why??? All the commenters that jumps to her defense are probably just as toxic and childish themselves.

[@league-of-shadows]

lol she had the audacity to say she was patient and clear.

[@owl7072]

Story 1: ...She's essentially insulting their relationship by constantly comparing it to someone else's and saying how much better it is and people are calling Op an AH for getting upset about that? "You should have told her you didn't like it." Pretty sure it's common sense to _not_ disrespect your own relationship in favor of someone else's. If _she_ wanted that type of relationship, then _she_ should have said something. Insulting yours while comparing it to someone else's because you want what they have isn't going to make your relationship like theirs. It's going to _ruin it._

[@ojogunleye2209]

It’s not disrespecting your relationship by saying ‘I like how A and B do 1, 2 and 3’ and the idea that you think having an idealism of a couple you know to determine how you think you could improve in your relationship is disrespectful is silly and shows a level of immaturity. Pointing out good qualities in one thing doesn’t sully another.

[@rubymeaddle]

Sounds like OP and their relationship needed to be insulted lmao, he acts like a fvcking baby

[@tayganroberts5098]

@@ojogunleye2209 but she didn’t say that. She said “Joe is so great to his partner” She was *not* clear and she needed to be.

[@Bala_Niranna]

op never said anything about her comparing. he just overreacted for no reason

[@Mr.andMrs.Smith_0420]

Exactly. No one wants to hear about how much better someone else's relationship is, her way of saying how great they are is comparing their relationship, men aren't mind readers, if she wasn't happy, she should've been straight up honest and communicated this from the start.

[@nicolen.4514]

The 20 year old friend is a creep. A junior in college should not be waiting on a 17 year old to turn 18. That is so gross.

[@eva_art_0533]

If you have to wait for your partner to be legal then yeah its effing weird

[@Me-wk3ix]

My main issue would be that if one person is in high school and the other is in college, they are in different places in life. By the time she gets to college, he will be out and starting his own life.

[@Redfoxa]

It depends on the moral, 3 years is not a big deal. I don't think it should be judged, 17 years old are not clueless people

[@jenimhills]

@@Redfoxa 3 years is fine, like above 20. But under that, kids are changing so fucking rapidly. They are in completely different stages. There is an uneven power imbalance.

[@anyjen]

Agreed. A three year age difference is nothing, as long as both parties are above 20. When one of them is still a teenager, not ok. People change and mature very rapidly at that age, and "waiting until she's legal" is creepy as all get.

[@Khaisz.]

Good lord Markee, you read that story2 with such intensity that I could feel the pain that guy was in and started to wonder if you was the one who had written that story and you just need someone to talk with.

[@AceFoxx70001519]

Story 2 op need therapy and to stop being so sexually repressed, man sounds like a bigot through the first half of the story then reveals he was traumatized by the existence of poly people

[@mattiekarwin3667]

​​@Abram Morton I think they literally * were * traumatized by it. And we can argue about whether or not it should have all day long but at the end of the day that's not something that can be controlled. Sometimes something hits you different even if it shouldn't, usually because it's actually a different thing much deeper that it's being hit by. This was never an issue with polyamory or sex. It's an issue of shi bag parents who wouldn't raise a mentally sound sack flower child.

[@AceFoxx70001519]

@@mattiekarwin3667 true but at this point toss the parents out and deal with the polyphobia and trauma in a therapist's office, don't bring that shit online

[@rubymeaddle]

@@holographicwing maybe don't go into someone else's house and you won't see your mom screwing someone else 🤣

[@AceFoxx70001519]

@@holographicwing that'd be the same as walking in on your parents, that they're poly has functionally nothing to do with him being traumatized, and you phrasing it that way leads me to the conclusion that you're likely a bigot.

[@LisaApril]

They put their sexual lives ahead of being parents to their child. They decided to have sex instead of parent or be there as an emotional support for their child. I wouldn’t want them in my life either. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with going no contact with absent parents. Someone needs to send this entire post to the parents. They deserve nothing except spit in the eye.

[@karenmurray4608]

The polyamorous lifestyle is not a good one. These parents were so disgusting and selfish.

[@BlueSkyBS]

I think OP in the last story should question if the father, that he's known all his life as such, is actually his birth father. Because the complete emotional indifference to him, by his parents, is confounding at best. Otherwise, this is little more than a case of toxic polyamory.

[@wmdkitty]

All polyamory is inherently toxic.

[@SutapaBhattacharyaKolkata]

@@wmdkitty No.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

@@wmdkitty Your statement is categorically wrong.

[@CanonSkyrissian]

story 3: hindsight is 20/20 but I do feel that this entire situation could've been avoided if the parents had talked to op together about them opening their marriage, before opening it. yeah, it's their business what they do in their bedroom, but this was gonna affect op and it affected him the worst way possible (also ffs show up to your kid's events and milestones) nice monologue btw

[@randomusername3873]

They couldn't care less about him, that's clear

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

Imagine being so bored in life that you get obsessed with your parents s*x life 💀💀💀 Admittedly, parents should have talked to OP better and explained the situation, but there is no guarantee that OP would have been okay with it, seeing as he had not managed to get over the fact so many years later. Imagine if it was the other way around and parents cried and cut OP off because of their sexuality after begging them to change their lifestyle. People should get it into their heads that what conscenting adults do in private is none of their business.

[@rubymeaddle]

Except it's none of his business. Poly people can't fvcking win with you people can they? If they're honest about it: y'all call CPS. If they try to shield their kid for it, y'all say they should have been open.

[@CanonSkyrissian]

@@randomusername3873 true, they were incredibly selfish from start to finish

[@JDKT002]

Agreed. I'm poly and my GF of 3 years has a college aged daughter. I get along just fine with her, because their was no secret. She knew who I was and why I was around before she ever met me. Communication is vital in all aspects of ENM, with EVERYONE who it will effect, not just your other partners. OP's own words in this post drip with so much trauma that goes SO far beyond his parents open relationship. There's a LOT of intrusive thoughts and (from our perspective) assumptions. He's basically blamed every single failing of his parents on them being open, which is highly unlikely to be true. It's a hell of a lot easier to just blame ENM for everything than to come to terms with the idea that his parents may just not be very emotionally healthy people regardless of what lifestyle they choose to live. I feel sorry for OP. His parents couldn't even be bothered to get him a therapist to help him cope and work through all this. They sound very emotionally negligent.

[@xlr8436]

NGL, Markee’s reading of OP’s rant round about 20min of the video made my day!

[@zapheil]

Story 3: I know all too well the feeling of your mother snapping at you for having a panic attack over something she regards as no big deal. It hurts. It’s a complete disregard for your wellbeing. Instead of sitting by me and trying to figure out the root cause of the feeling, she assumed it was about the surface-level incident and made me feel pathetic for my uncontrollable reaction.

[@CandaceDreamer]

I nearly died at the llamas with hats reference lol Edit: oh my gosh! Markee gave me a heart!!! Thank you markee. I’ve been listening pretty much from the beginning!

[@Markee]

Funny I just watched that video again the day before reading this one so I'm glad I picked up on it too ahaha. Thanks for watching though much appreciated!!

[@CandaceDreamer]

@@Markee thank you for providing the content that you do. Don’t forget to take care of yourself every now and then!

[@Mkay999]

Ending a friendship bc you’re 20 year old friend is dating a 17 year old high schooler IS normal. Just bc something is legal doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. I wouldn’t want to associate with someone like that!

[@janicepabros4939]

I agree so much. The comments kinda shocked me. Dating someone more mature is not ok. They’re at two different stages of life. That 20 year old definitely could’ve taken advantage of her. I don’t know why people think this is ok.

[@amandasunshine2]

@@janicepabros4939 and then people are saying that it's inappropriate for OP to contact her! 🙄

[@JaneDoe1812]

I can't believe folks thought it was fine for that dude to touch OP's boyfriend without his consent scares the shit outta me.

[@amandasunshine2]

@@JaneDoe1812 the response to Story 2 is just so clearly misogyny

[@catsncrows]

I don't get the hahagasm in the comments either. I think a percentage of the internet is people "I'm such a clever little cynical boo boo and I can catch people in a lie. Loook at meee!"

[@TessuDraws]

Damn, Markee going for an Oscar with that passionate reading!

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

Story 2: I feel like it's kinda weird to be in a relationship with someone younger but then say you won't be physical with them until they're a very age. Like, if they're too young for that, why are you with them? I don't think three years is the biggest deal, but that's very contextually based off both age as well as maturity. But with all the added context, the guy is definitely a total creep.

[@BA-qn7xj]

It’s grooming. He’s grooming her so he can have sex with her once she’s of age

[@damien678]

All of this

[@LamisonJamison]

2: what is wrong with the comments on that post? OPs friend is 20 going after highschoolers, she could have been 16 when they met but even if not whats the huge leap in maturity between 17 and 18? Yeah, some places have different min consent ages but its still weird for someone in college to be hanging with highschoolers if they weren't already friends IN HIGHSCHOOL, which is easy to say they weren't. People who wait for the bare minimum to fuck someone are just as weird as people who don't wait, because if they could, they'd go lower. OPs friend knows if he fucks her now, he could go to jail because he's not even protected under Romeo and Juliet laws and hes just preying on a clearly immature, and clingy teenager.

[@Hiimreggie]

This is what they call a gray area and the updates are red flags that the story might be fabricated

[@HarryVibes36]

I thought we all were aware this story was fake

[@LamisonJamison]

@@HarryVibes36 doesn't matter? The comments are still gross, egging on a relationship between a 20 y/o and a 17 y/o fake or not is gross.

[@insideoutcabbage]

Markee losing it at the couch 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@annanas9122]

10:29 honestly, without all that context NO WONDER people blasted OP. The little info in og post just paints her as a "holier than thou" condescending prick who sticks her nose into other people's business when the story is not as simple as that and there's context that makes her decision justified.

[@tamsel814]

Yeah, don't be mad when people judge you on the stuff you wrote down. That's literally what the sun reddit is for. Same goes for the last story don't leave out the the context/actual issue.

[@alexlyles5402]

Story 1: man. I get OP was TA for that moment. But apart of me feels like that break up text she sent him, was her basically saying that she wants her own perfect relationship, but doesn’t want to put in the effort to make it work. But that’s just how i feel from this one side of the situation

[@legendarybushidobrown560]

Story 1: honestly everyone kind of sucks here. She's not willing to communicate more effectively and he is reacting poorly. If you can't sit down and have a blunt conversation with your partner, it's never going to work and if you can't breathe and think about what you're going to say before you say it even while you're irritated from a long day of work, so you don't take it out on your partner again, it's never going to work. Also the amount of reaching in the comets for story#1 they all can be in the NBA 🤦🏾‍♂️. I don't believe it's controlling to say your significant other was supposed to sleep with you. Why assume it's something negative when there's a possibility that they plan to sleep together that night? (Not in the sexual way for those of you who can't think outside the box). Great advice I got from my dad: never go to sleep angry at your partner. Markee for Oscar ❤️

[@xelectrix]

I think some people forget that ESH is a reasonable judgment to make.

[@legendarybushidobrown560]

@@xelectrix I just forgot the abbreviation for it but I don't understand how they can't decide that everyone is in the wrong

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿

[@DrawciaGleam02]

And I think the "If you like them so much...." comment was rather tame as well.

[@skyetan86]

She even texted "if I was patient and clear about my needs"... I lmao'ed

[@FinnishLapphund]

2nd story: He's told OP he's not attracted to the 17 years old, and just using her as therapist, but that bomb slipped OP's mind when OP wrote the first post? Well, if you leave out crucial info in your post, the answers you get will be thereafter. Life would be easier if people didn't expect others to be telepathic. That goes for story 1, too. ETA: The same goes for story 3. If OP had included that it's possible his parents not only missed teaching him how to bicycle, and drive a car, without also missed celebrating birthdays with OP because they chose to prioritise going out to have sex with others instead, a lot of the answers to the original post would probably have sounded differently.

[@galacticalove]

The extra info shouldn't have to be what gets people to believe her, I understand the gap and being 16 or 17 is grey area legally, but if dude got with her AFTER he was legal instead of when he was 17 or younger, there is a huge question of manipulation. The comments were straight assholes, sory but hell no.

[@FinnishLapphund]

@@galacticaloveBut all that extra info OP somehow managed to forget when writing the first post, makes the age gap thing completely irrelevant. If OP's first post instead had said something like e.g.: Z is my BF's roommate, but I cut off Z as a friend because he kept constantly hitting on me, made comments about my, and BF's sex life, thinks I'm dramatic when I have period pains, slaps my BF's ass even though BF tells him to stop, and he have told me he's only using his GF as a therapist whilst allowing her to think their relationship is the real deal. Now Z's GF have reached out to me, she's told me once before to sort of stay away from her BF/Z, so I'm worried she just wants to repeat that message. Should I still give it a chance to see what it is she wants this time? Maybe even try to warn her about him? If OP had said anything similar to the above, I'm sure the majority of the responses would've been very different. By the way, no, I still don't view the 3 years age gap as a big thing. And that is not only because I happen to live in a country where the age of consent law have a close-in-age clause = if you're around the age of consent, it's perfectly okay to have a relationship with someone older as long as they're no more than 3 years older.

[@damien678]

OP of story 2 is 18 so I'll give them a bit of leeway tbh

[@kirtemoon529]

I feel really bad about OOP in the last story. The first comment put it real good, that it’s not that OOP dislikes their parents for being poly, but for the fact that they just weren’t good parents. When the story first started and they didn’t give much perspective in the beginning, I really thought that OOP was just upset their family wasn’t ‘normal’ and I was upset as a person who hails from a family full of ‘different’ people that they could be so judgmental. But it was me who was judgmental as I assumed bad things, and OOP was having bad problems deep down. Imagine having parents that don’t even want to spend time with you… that has to be awful…

[@Ospyro3em]

When you least expect it, the couch strikes! 🤣

[@chaseashley6775]

A 20 yo dating a 17 yo is creepy. My rule for dating in high school is: If your grades don’t touch, neither should you.

[@sfsin3380]

problem with that rule is is that at 3 years they could be in the same grade. Me and my sister were 17 graduating secondary (high) school and there were just turned 20 year-old graduating with us.

[@hanvi5358]

@sf sin they probably were held back a few grades at that point. Idk where you live but it's pretty abnormal to graduate high school at 20 years old lol. Regardless, that age gap is creepy as fuck!

[@LittleImpaler]

No, it's not. In a year she'll be 18. She practically an adult.

[@bluemoonslightASMR]

Lol “the couch the couch!!” 😂 I thought of that post too and you cracking up was just the icing.

[@Ospyro3em]

Here's everyone talking about the couch story, when here I am wishing we had a conclusion to the story of what was really in the box of "olives" in the fridge.

[@vanzy01]

POOP JAR

[@randomusername3873]

What story was that?

[@Ospyro3em]

@randomusername3873 it was a while back now, but the gist of the story was OP's husband brought home a metal container that he said contained olives, and that he was looking after it for a coworker and that she was not to open it. A couple of days later she removed the container from the fridge very briefly while she cleaned it and he absolutely freaked out. She was asking AITA for removing the "olives" from the fridge, but commenters warned her something really didn't add up and the container very likely contained something more dangerous or sinister, like drugs. Unfortunately there was never an update and both the post and user were deleted shortly after, so it's highly unlikely there will ever be an update.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

@@Ospyro3em Sounds like OP was murdered by her husband and/or coworker for knowing too much. 😳😳 🫒 🫒

[@randomusername3873]

@@Ospyro3em oh no, I want to know now😂😂

[@Cjaj2]

Every once and while there is a reddit post that makes absolutely no sense, OP is not the AH in story one it would be incredibly annoying to have your girlfriend constantly bring up other people and compare you to them

[@QuayHollywood]

I agree with this. People aren't psychic and won't know what you want unless you tell them. Even in the break up she was still comparing them/him to her friends. Like I don't care what it is out of a relationship but don't compare ours to someone else's because you don't know what goes on underneath the surface. I almost never take things at face value cause the surface may be polished but the mechanics can be rusty as all hell.

[@xelectrix]

Remember, in these stories, we only have the POV of the OP

[@rqstuv9336]

@@xelectrix Exactly, OP might be the guy who gets butt hurt when his now ex Gf tries to address it head on, so GF had to try a different tactic...

[@mindyschocolate]

So why not bring it up much earlier? Why didn’t he communicate that to her? He sucks just as much for not communicating as she does.

[@QuayHollywood]

@xelectrix I understand that . But from what we know she was the one who wanted to elevate the relationship whether said or unsaid. In my opinion she should have been the one to initiate that conversation.

[@The.S.M.Evans.91]

Story 1: Hell no he's NTA. The issue is that she's comparing relationships, when she has no idea what they may be dealing with behind closed doors. Edit: OP can find an adult as a partner that will actually be direct about what she needs. Some of those comments about OP being out of pocket are unreal, and if that's what the dating pool consists of, I see why MGTOW is thriving. I've been with my wife for almost a decade, and I couldn't imagine her or me not being able to have an honest conversation.

[@royoko01]

Markee, you were deep in character on story 2👏🏾 I really empathized the OP’s frustration and hurt. Noooo not the couch 😵‍💫🤢

[@maxinemyers9215]

The 3rd story was heartbreaking 💔 Thanks for the dramatic reading 💐

[@afroteddybear]

Everyone sucks in the first story, including the commenters! OP Sucks for being oblivious, rude and non-communicative. The GF sucks for being non-communicative and thinking she can "Raise a man" in the first place (the heck does that mean). The commenters suck for being rude and offensive to the OP, interjecting with supposition and making wild assumptions. And I suck for wasting my time with this dumb comment!

[@richardkeller346]

I liked your comment @afroteddybear

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿😂

[@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon]

So everyone sucks for everything? Got it. 😄

[@onlychrisallthetime]

I think you’re great

[@nyxspiritsong5557]

Damn dude you just HAD to reference the damn dress on mom while getting freaky with dad on the couch story?! 😂 God that's become reddit legend just like the marinara flag!

[@nanidafaq7626]

just be glad he isn't bringing up the art room. lmao

[@KrisKASK]

Or the weird techno sex song lmao

[@Star_Joker]

What's the marinara flag?

[@BlueSkyBS]

@@Star_Joker The story of the guy who thought marinara was Italian for red and alfredo was Italian for white. And thus the term "marinara flags" became a thing.

[@CalvinWilliams]

I'm definitely missing the context of the couch part, can someone possibly pass me the sauce for that story? Thanks!

[@katglad]

The people that are saying 20 and 17 ISNT creepy? Wtaf. Im 18 and wouldn’t date a 21 year old or a 15 year old bc we’re in completely different stages of life. He’s grooming her

[@3bwitch390]

Literally! Why is no one talking about that. Like 20 and 17 may be only 3 years apart but it's such a different stage of life. I've just turned 18 and the thought of dating a 20 year old is creepy to me

[@emilybarclay8831]

She’s a few months at most away from being an adult. She’s a senior in high school for fucks sake. He’s not grooming her because they have a 3 year age gap and it’s infantilising as fuck for y’all to act like she’s a baby who can’t make choices

[@3bwitch390]

@@emilybarclay8831 I understand that. And I could just have this view from rhe shit that I've gone through, but listening to the story the whole thing it's really un nerving. Yeah maybe he's not "grooming" her but he's still creepy in my books

[@katglad]

@@emilybarclay8831 I’m an “adult” legally. I haven’t gotten a car or license yet, I haven’t gone to college yet, I haven’t graduated highschool yet, haven’t paid taxes, haven’t experienced ANYTHING that is normal life for someone who is 20. You have to realize that he is purposefully not going for someone his age. He’s seeking out TEENAGERS because they’re easy to manipulate. She probably still lives with her parents and hasn’t gotten her license yet. That’s a child

[@katglad]

@@emilybarclay8831 also I was 17 as a junior in highschool. She could just as easy be one too

[@HoodieHorizon]

Markee needs to become a voice actor, dude is really good at this stuff

[@83gemm]

Everybody is taking OP’s version of events as gospel in that first story. GF might have mentioned them a couple of times, but because he thinks they are dull, he changed it to an obsession. The way he talks about her not staying with him “like she was supposed to,” makes me think he sees everything from his own wants and needs and doesn’t see her as having any agency at all. Honestly… I got an underlying vibe that he doesn’t want her to have any relationships with anyone but him. “Ask to be their third,” sounds like he’s jealous of her friendship. He might only be young and spoiled, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it was deeper and he wants to isolate her.

[@ronbeyak9886]

That girlfriend in the first story is a nut job. She’s too immature to be in a relationship if she can’t communicate properly.

[@AntisocialclubSJ]

I love the story 3 monologue. Where’s your Oscar?

[@Reality_TV]

LMAO! It's the dramatic reading for me! I love you Markee! You absolutely need to be doing voiceover work! Your reading of that guy's feelings had me on the edge of my seat not wanting it to stop!

[@ojogunleye2209]

With the age gap story: the issue isn’t the age gap, it’s the behaviour surrounding the relationship and the ages of the gap.

[@lizza4975]

That age gap is an issue though one hasn't finished high school and the other is near graduating college it is weird.

[@ojogunleye2209]

@@lizza4975 that’s what I’m saying the age gap itself isn’t bad, it’s the dynamthat forms from the two people in the age gap relationship due to their ages

[@ojogunleye2209]

@@lizza4975 that’s what I’m saying the age gap itself isn’t bad, it’s the dynamic that forms from the two people in the age gap relationship due to their ages that’s the problem

[@HeoBaby24]

@@lizza4975 bruh didn't even graduate

[@lizza4975]

@@HeoBaby24 bruh he’s a year away from finishing uni

[@Tsuki_Itsubi]

Story 2 reminds me of a story where people wanted a 19 year old arrested for dating a 17 year old. They had been dating for 2 years and the age gap was around a year and a half or something. They were calling the poor guy a pedophile. I'm grossed out at the thought of dating anyone more than 5 years younger than me, I wouldn't date a 21 year old. I don't really see a big issue with a 20 and 17 year old in age alone. People seem more okay with the 18 year old dating someone in their 50s

[@tamsel814]

Both story 2 and 3 add in a lot of information in an update that changes the entire story. I fully believe the 3th ops update but I'm doubtful about the second op.

[@Bleg94]

the Update on the second story was basically outing the story as an attempt in creative writing I mean ... most of those things were basically worthy of cutting him off but dating someone a mere 3 years younger is the thing that makes OP cut that friend off? bs

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

Im sorry but the gf and the people in the comments are so annoying. This is the one subreddit where they preached communication then turn around and say "Well read between the lines Op 🙄." People who try to lay out their problems by beating the bush irritate me. I don't like the Op either but omg.

[@randomusername3873]

Right?

[@EllieC130]

Story 2: I can’t express how much joy the random Llamas with Hats reference made me.

[@kitthefox8428]

The story about the poly parents was confusing to me hear the story my first thought was “oh op obviously has a problem with polyamory” it sounded more like op was feeling abandoned by them and it seems confirmed in their actions it’s unfortunate some much of op’s pain could have been softened or avoided to an extent if they just communicated properly and started therapy sooner I really feel for op

[@earcher]

That third story is probably one of the only times a recommendation of therapy seems absolutely critical. Good God.

[@isiaadiel3468]

Give Markee his goddamn Oscar!

[@legendarybushidobrown560]

25:50 There is literally no escape from that story... If you know you know 😭

[@DarkDesertRose]

The Poly parents story is why you should just get a divorce instead of "staying for the kids"

[@amandasunshine2]

..seriously? You do realize there are happy poly relationships with healthy kids? And that OP admitted that the actual problem was their neglect, not their relationships.

[@Jesusblowsme666]

Uhhh you know healthy poly relationships exist, right?

[@Listrynne]

Except it sounded more like an open relationship or a swinger lifestyle than a poly relationship. They definitely needed to either be open with OP instead of hiding it or just get a divorce. They also totally reacted wrong to his trauma. They suck as parents.

[@DarkDesertRose]

@@amandasunshine2 They neglected him FOR the relationships if you actually listen. They also told him it was the only way they could stay together. If they just divorced and lived their own lives separated, then it probably wouldn't have ended up like that with them blowing him off to keep the illusion of a happy marriage for the kid

[@amandasunshine2]

@@DarkDesertRose you can be a neglectful parent and not have an open marriage. You can be good parents and have an open marriage. The open marriage is irrelevant. It's the neglect that's the problem. You're demonizing a sexual preference for no reason.

[@ergotempusvernum]

1. NTA because the girlfriend is pussyfooting around whatever issues she's having instead of actually talking about them and assuming op would get them. She's going to be severely disappointed once she finds out that the relationship of the couple she is idolizing is severely flawed as well.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Agree. I've heard several stories of couples being admired as "perfect"..... and then some dark secret was revealed that shocked EVERYBODY.

[@hesherette]

my cat has been at the ER vet all morning + i'm super stressed. hearing you bust out laughing about the couch really took my head out of stress for a few min, so thank you very much!

[@HeidiGraham1982]

If you don't mind my asking, how is your sweet kitty doing? Best wishes for you AND your cat! ❤️😸

[@hesherette]

@@HeidiGraham1982 you are so sweet! He ended up needing 2 surgical procedures the day after I posted the comment, BUT he's doing amazingly well despite everything he's been through. Thanks so much for asking 💕

[@HeidiGraham1982]

@@hesherette I am very glad to hear he's doing better! Love from one cat parent to another! I hope he has a speedy recovery!

[@hesherette]

@@HeidiGraham1982 appreciate you!

[@karendaniel620]

Story 1: ESH She's being passive aggressive. He's being deliberately obtuse and, instead of communicating, bottled it up and then snapped.

[@skyelindsey687]

Or he’s just that dense and hints don’t work on him, similar to how they don’t work on the majority of men, if not all the population. We might think our hints are obvious, but they’re not. Strangers on the internet might think it’s obvious, but to the men in the situation it’s not. In order to have a healthy relationship, whether platonic or romantic, people have to realize that hints don’t work. You have to come out and say “hey, I wish you would buy me more flowers” instead of “OMG, Joe just got his girlfriend this really pretty bouquet of flowers. He’s so nice and considerate. Not toxic at all.”

[@damien678]

​@@skyelindsey687 idk mate, I'm autistic and could still tell it was a hint from his seemingly oblivious perspective on things men can be incredibly emotionally intelligent, too, and understand to look out for hidden meanings in others' words, especially if they're in a field like politics, or psychology

[@markeljackson7795]

The couch will never leave this channel and I love it lol 🤣

[@michealwatts7469]

Story 1: The girl was patient in saying what she wants by dancing around the subject. Look guys need to pick up on the queues sure BUT girls need to be more direct. "I was talking about another couple so much I figured you'd knew that's my relationship goal" I'm sure some dudes my pick up a hint but You can't expect everyone to do so... Hell he has probably said something direct and she was thinking "What could that ACTUALLY mean?" like its some game to figure out a puzzle. I'm not defending this dude since clearly he needed a kick in the ass but we don't have any full story of their lives just this specific tidbit and honestly its not enough to go off of. Point is, communicate your needs and wants clearly so you aren't wasting your time or theirs. So my verdict: Everyone kinda sucks here.

[@randomusername3873]

Last Op kinda shot himself in the foot by not mentioning how neglectful and hypocritical his parents were. Like it's obvious that the open relationship part is not the reason he went no contact, bu why didn't he mention that. The fiancee by the way is showing some red flags, the fact that she is pushing for reconciliation is not good at all, why is nobody pointing that out?

[@keithy1975]

The couch ref killed me 😂

[@demontoaster5670]

Edit: I had not heard the second story oml I really needed this today :,) my in laws are moving, they leave tomorrow and are moving to the other side of the country(usa) It's been so stressful, I hurt for my husband and his brother; as their parents hand the torch to me hahaha Finding a new laundry schedule so BIL can come do laundry, changing our dinner time as he's used to going to the parents a couple times a week. My life has just changed so much and it feels like I'm in the eye of the storm!! I really needed that laugh.. Thank you for always being there buddy. Know that many of us have been there for you the last few years! Love you guys, seriously ❤️

[@amemooress6291]

Story 3 - Even after hearing their rant, I still don't understand OP's point of view. I don't understand why their parents' sex life had such a dramatic effect on them. It sounds more like they felt their parents weren't there for them enough -- and they're wondering if that's because they were busy with other partners?

[@yikes625]

It's because they were prioritizing their sex life and personal wants over OP and their feelings for so long, on top of the hypocrisies they were shoving down their throat all the while. Finding out about their preferences was just the breaking point. Long story short, they were neglectful and OP was/is having a hard time putting the pieces together.

[@amemooress6291]

@yikes625 That's what I sorta got from it, more or less. That the neglect was just how her parents were. I bet they would have been that way even without additional partners, sadly :/

[@sarahraisingmyvoice]

I mean…mathematically, 17 and aren’t that far apart-but thinking of that in terms of life experience and maturity? VERY different story.

[@mayaya1613]

You gave your whole markussy to read story 3 with such intensity

[@bdf1696]

As much as I hate what I'm about to say, from the way the parents sound in the last story, OP sounds like he was an 'oops' baby. It was as if his parents were just agreeing around so much they didn't have a care in the world and just went on everyday as if nothing could go wrong. Then along came OP and they got a small dose of reality in the form of a child that wrecks any plans they had for their life. I'm certain that his parents do love him (albeit nowhere near as much as their lifestyle), but if you can see your child having a severe mental breakdown and you look at them tell them you'll do something then go out and do the exact opposite... then I have no words for you. From my own opinion if you want to have a child in a relationship that is open/polyamorous then you have an extremely difficult life decision to make, either you stop, have your child, and live the family life like we see usually or you can continue the lifestyle and either don't have children or let give the child up for adoption. Because with the stories I've seen where open couples who have kids, the kids are messed up and genuinely hate their parents. I've only ever experienced 1 person personally who was ok with their parents lifestyle like that but the parents were mad cool and made the kid their priority before all else. But they didn't come out about their open relationship til she was out of high school

[@zapheil]

Story 2… So OP is in the same grade as the 17-year-old, and dating somebody in college (presumably, since OP’s boyfriend is roommates with the friend). OP also doesn’t include the age of their boyfriend (unless Markee left that part out or it was only mentioned in the comments or something), so we can’t say for sure whether he’s a freshman or older. This isn’t about the age gap. This was never about the age gap. If everything that OP said about the dude is true, then I think OP began seeing everything the dude did as creepy, even if it wouldn’t be creepy if anybody else did it.

[@LawNerdsUnited]

I love every time you reference the couch story! Everyone’s cringe responses are funny as hell! Much funnier than peoples’ reaction to the slug references. Though, those are pretty funny, too.😂

[@eye-chan1711]

Story 1: People need to realize that it’s a lot easier to pick up on hints when getting a second hand account that is written. Also really liked all of those assumptions. I have no clue how they all get that from a Reddit post. Maybe I’m stupid, but I don’t see it.

[@skyelindsey687]

It’s because people think hints are supposed to be obvious to everyone while forgetting the majority of the population when stuck in similar situations to OP don’t pick up on hints whatsoever. Then they get mad when the person the hint was aimed at didn’t get the hint. Worst form of communication out there and not at all effective.

[@SnowyWolborg]

It's important to keep in mind that on Reddit, people will simply make things up in order to justify what they want the situation to be.

[@grecia3146]

Story 1 is a ESH, the two weren’t actually communicating. One was just dropping hints and the other just exploded on his gf.

[@wrenpeach6707]

25:51 DAMNIT MARKEE 😩🤣🤣🤣

[@CensorshipVictim]

Story 1 NTA: OP's girlfriend constantly comparing their relationship to her new friends sounds exhausting 😔. I'd be fed up with the constant, "my friends relationship is so perfect and I wish my relationship was like that". Update: the GF is a major AH for not opening her mouth and communicating with OP, instead of all the passive aggressive BS.

[@skyelindsey687]

It wasn’t even that. It was “their relationship is so perfect” but in her head she was going “I wish ours was like that so why aren’t you getting my hints that are obvious to me.”

[@CensorshipVictim]

@@skyelindsey687 that's even worse! Why can't people just communicate instead of this passive aggressive BS and for the record no relationship is "perfect".

[@skyelindsey687]

@@CensorshipVictim I’m well aware of that. It all comes down to communication and how well you can make cohabitation work as well as accepting your partner for who they are.

[@ThatFlamingFroggo]

I'm a little surprised at the concensus of people thinking it's ok for a 20 year old to date a 17 yr old. It's not so much the years, but the power imbalance between a legal adult and a minor, that feels off. If they had met as teens, maybe, but if it is rather recent, it feels off. Even before the update.

[@emanx222]

Those comments accusing OP of being controlling and stupid make me laugh, they went on such tangents and reached so hard my neck gave up trying to understand. Why is it that people love to cherry-pick word choices and act like removing all context somehow justifies their flawed interpretation of what he said? That one comment about how jd said GF was "supposed to stay over with him" ended up turning into how the OP thinks he owns his GF or was somehow implying GF was meant to sleep with him sexually AND THEM they go on to act like the OP exerts this control over his GF indefinitely. I'm sorry but reddit needs to get a fucking grip, reading comprehension is key! It's unreal that people took defending OP to mean that they had to find every possible way to break him down and make him out to seem far worse than what he is, and worst of all they do this all while at the same time trying to absolve GF of all her responsibility in the matter. Its pathetic Edit: the update ruined everything I had just said to defend the boyfriend. That's disappointing but I'm not stupid enough to discard what's empirically provable lol. Nah OP wasn't wrong but did nothing to properly explain things in the original post

[@SkyEcho751]

Story 1: I feel like this was a communication breakdown. I see this a lot, where couples slowly stop trying to look at a problem as "Us vs the problem" and instead start focusing on their partner themselves as the issue. Though we are missing a lot of context, the BF could also feel like she's never actually said anything to him, just said things "at" him. One _could_ also argue she was constantly passive aggressive with her comments. Sadly we are lacking way too much info, so I'd go with ESH based on what we have gotten. Story 2: Wait, so OP is 18 dating a 20 year old, and claims that the 17 year old is somehow the naive one? If the update is true then sure dude's a creep...(I mean I don't like the age gap regardless) But once again an argument can be made that she just made up the stuff so that she can be the "good person" and everyone else is the bad guy.(Biggest warning flag that it's fake, is the unneeded addition of "I cried myself to sleep over your comments" which I literally can't understand how that was relevant or helpful, like that would theoretically just add fuel to the fire for the trolls) Story 3: NTA, I'm someone who's against open marriages for religious reasons, but I'm willing to let it slide. BUT THIS IS JUST TERRIBLE, they are upset at their child for not immediately accepting their position on marriage, and yet it seems like they did nothing to actually explain how any of it is different. It would be like learning you were adopted at 16, it hits hard, and it seems they couldn't even slow down to let OP feel like they cared. Post all updates: Also OP teaching himself a lot of things his parents should have participated makes it all the worse, as now he has to question if his parents just weren't interested in him, if they were really ever 'busy' or if they were off getting a random hookup. Like it's as if they were choosing to just not be parents. Heck, the mother getting upset that OP masturbated, meanwhile she was getting railed by someone other then her husband... NO, just like you can't raise your child with the mentality "Stealing is wrong" then get upset when your child doesn't like you taking out of the donation basket, you can't raise your child to be chaste/celibate then dismiss him being upset at you being promiscuous, it's hypocrisy at it's finest.

[@literallycringeidk360]

Hearing Markee laughing while reading the comments was so fucking great lmao

[@shecoda4402]

OPEN MARRIAGE MOM I get this from OP's point of view. These parents didn't bother to help OP through a really tough transition. It also seems that their need for sex with others was far more important than taking care of their son. OP does not have to let them back into his life and the fiancee needs to just BACK OFF. OP needs counseling over this and should do it before he marries.

[@edgelordhedgelord2805]

God the 20 year old in that story is SUCH a creep! And the fact that the comments are defending him, when he’s clearly preying on a kid STILL IN GRADE SCHOOL, it’s disgusting. Dude gives off MASSIVE Scott Pilgrim VS the World vibes. I also don’t like the comments you chose to highlight, im almost positive there were comments there that talked about the age gap and why the power imbalance was inherently predatory.

[@SXLLYSTRXNG]

I’m sorry but OP in story 3 is so annoying😭😭 I understand he’s traumatized but JFC I’m not OP, didn’t grow up like him but it just sounds like he’s resentful his parents neglected him, not that their poly

[@redonyx5428]

Story 3 is another example of why some people shouldn't be parents. Hell, they probably didn't WANT to be parents but had OP out of societal and religious obligations. They said one thing while doing the other, punished OP for doing something natural, neglected and mistreated OP. I'm glad the fiance backed down on trying to force a reconciliation because that would have been horrible. They're selfish people more concerned with their sex lives that their own child.

[@crazypyp5871]

I feel like people were being really cruel to OP in the third story. Someone adding info in later when they don’t think it was necessary isn’t a crime. They don’t need to go into detail about them and their boyfriend being sexually harassed in order to tell the post. Also just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s morally right. For example, is it really appropriate for a college student to date a high schooler? Someone who is a junior in college is well into adulthood. Also the fact he said nothing physical will happen until the person is eighteen is just admitting to the fact that it’s wrong to date the girl. Why else would he try to make every single excuse if it wasn’t a bad thing to do?

[@BbiBbii]

Story 3: Parents stop traumatizing your children and then acting shocked when they leave you behind charged: FAILED. I’m all for poly however when kids are involved the parents HAVE to consider their child as well. Monogamous parents have to do the samething, once you have a kid it’s not all about you. You have to be careful with what you show your child & who you being your child around. For example my parents are divorced and they would wait AT LEAST a year before introducing me to their partners, and they never exposed me to what they did in the bedroom. Honestly OP’s parents went about this in the worst way possible.

[@Pikaman20008]

Honestly with the first story, I can’t tell if it’s a YTA or ESH. She says she was trying to change him and have him respect her, but since we only have OP’s side we don’t know what she means. Is he a controlling asshat or is she making mountains out of molehills? She also mentioned she tried to communicate her needs, did she mean she tried to talk to him before and he didn’t listen, or does she legitimately think that dropping hints is communicating. We really don’t know

[@bishat4974]

Story 1 : wtf those comments are talking about if my girl keep talking about random people relationships I would be mad to (my mom when I was 14-15 kept comparing me with someone who use to be a asshole to me and I definitely understand his point) if you want something talk about it don't compare me with some random guy if you fantasies their relationship so much go with them (she's not objective about them, her friend keep giving her 50 shades of gray stories about them and she's buying it smh)

[@jotitus2382]

op is definitely right in the age gap one. 20 and 17 is definitely wavering on the edge of being weird, but it depends on the people and the situation of the story makes it absolutely not chill

[@rebeccahayward9607]

Markee: *laughs about a couch* AHAHAHAHAHA the couch, THE COUCH!! Me: *confused, then finally gets it* Why is he laughing like that? Wh-....oh, oh no. *dies a little inside* 💀💀💀

[@Iflie]

Yeah those parents are not normal poly, they are sex addicts and that mother was feeling emotional so she had to get more sex to make her feel better. That's why addicts are terrible parents, it's all about selfish desires and they indulged themselves the kid's entire life at his expense, picking him up late, not being there to raise him. That's why he's vulnerable and needs therapy because his parents showed they never cared. So many posts are essentially about parents who do not place their kids needs above their own.

[@kateemma22]

A high school senior is still a child. A 20-year-old is also kind of a child but far less. OP2 did nothing wrong, the age gap is weird at that tiny age, but she needs to just RUN.

[@starbird3939]

Story 2 Yeeeaaah. A college junior versus a high school senior are different life stages. Also the friend can give the girl alcohol. And yeah, it is creepy. We consider high schoolers creeper for hanging around middle schoolers.

[@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon]

Oh god, the couch! Why you gotta do this to me, Markee? 🥺 lol

[@EluneAnzu]

Story 2 is peak "duality of reddit" because I know there's been posts with a similar age gap and the comments will go on about how shady it is for that alone, even when the younger party isn't 17.

[@Mglay556]

Story 1: unpopular opinion but they both suck. They both sound immature and not ready to be in a relationship. She needs to learn to speak up but he needs to listen in between the lines. It doesn’t mean he has to read her mind but let me put it this way, when my mom goes, “someday it would be nice to have roses in the backyard” in passing , the next weekend my dad would have not only bought the roses but planted them. When my dad would say “I got to keep on top of taking the cars in for the oil change” my mom on her free time would take the cars to do it. If you know your partner, you know what they need.

[@vanzy01]

👍🏿

[@skyelindsey687]

Or here’s a thought, hints are not and will never be an effective communication tool in relationships of all types so it should be cut out all together. It’s much easier and faster to say “can you buy me more flowers” than “OMG, Joe just bought his girlfriend a beautiful bouquet of flowers. He’s so sweet and thoughtful.” She took it as “I want you to buy me flowers.” He took it as “OMG, Joe just bought his girlfriend a beautiful bouquet of flowers. He’s so sweet and thoughtful.” To make any relationship work you need to learn effective communication skills.

[@Mglay556]

@@skyelindsey687 I mean I did say that she needs to speak up but when you’ve been around parents who have been married for 40 years they get it and get each other.

[@skyelindsey687]

@@Mglay556 when you genuinely take the time to learn your partner then it’s easy to figure out what they mean. By the sounds of that his ex was more interested in changing him to fit what she wants than learning who he was as a person. Everyone’s love language is different and when you start trying to change them and vice versa is when you should call it quits because they’re/you’re not what each other needs.

[@NixKyoimi]

MARKEE EVERY TIME I START TO FORGET THAT STORY YOU BRING IT UP 😂😂😂.

[@MusicGirl881]

Story 1: That was a clear example of no clear communication in a relationship. OP from how the story is written never clearly said he didn’t want to constantly hear about someone else’s relationship and the ex didn’t clearly state her wants cause dropping hints is not clear communication. IMO their both at fault for the relationship ending not just OP.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

And I fear the ex-GF might find herself in a WORSE relationshipafter this.....

[@Bleg94]

1. Story: ESH she is so damn passive aggressive and he bottled it up for too long till he exploded 2. Story: YTA „we will be in the same class“ OP is a nice guy that is angry that she is taken Update: so fake and damn is OP condescending 3. Story: NTA those parents suck, they don't care about OP and only care about themself they probably didn't want to be parents till the mother accidently got pregnant, atleast thats how it has been in other "polyamorous parents" stories and all that information he gave in the update supports that the last update makes those parents suck so much more, didn't think it was possible

[@elizabethvalenzuela4425]

The 20yr old dating an underage girl, the friend did the right thing. They removing themselves out of the situation is the right move. If things go sideways with them, girl is going to turn on the 20yr old and he’ll end up in trouble.

[@amemooress6291]

Story 3 - Okaaaaay. OP needs therapy...

[@Candyraven09]

I am SHOCKED and disgusted at the response to the 17/20 year old dating. Absolutely disgusted. Shame on all those people.