My girlfriend watches Captain Marvel for the FIRST time || MCU Phase 3

[@HoldenHardman]

Thanks so much for checking out this video everyone. I know people have some STRONG feelings about not only the movie, but Brie Larson, social agendas, etc. And we'll get into all that at the end of the video. But I had Jen go into it just as is to give an unbiased opinion as possible. Whether you loved, hated, or meh'd this movie, I hope you still enjoy watching this superhero flick with us! Endgame will be this weekend. Currently, a full watch along to Endgame is available on my Patreon for Producer and above tiers if you want to break out your copy of Endgame to watch with us. The edited version will also be up early on Patreon as well. Otherwise, it'll be live on KZbin this Saturday! Thanks for watching with us! www.patreon.com/hthardman

[@joshuacampbell7493]

Brie larson won Best Fight in this movie.

[@keratinboy]

The sheer broke-brained rage Brie and this movie got pissed me off. An innocuous and relevant comment made thousands of misogynists rage because how dare something not be for and about them. That said, this movie wouldn't work nearly as well without the excellent chemistry between Brie and Samuel.

[@jonhassinger504]

"Let me stop you right there....I'm in." - Barry Allen

[@camplays487]

you gonna do agents of shield?!?!

[@vehemon]

Do some reactions on the Endgame teaser trailers that came out before you watch this weekend!

[@zamlihazeem8449]

Jen's 'Stan Leee' isn't just a phrase anymore. It's become an emotion 😌

[@jenniferhardman]

Truth. ❤️❤️

[@ramzes2624]

@@jenniferhardman please tell me what score you gave the first Ironman and Captain America movies, and Captain America and The Winter Soldier. My OCD needs to know

[@cooperlounsbury05]

Just remember, we are gonna hear the last “Stan Lee!!” Sometime soon

[@kagenoo1084]

@@cooperlounsbury05 don't remind us

[@TehFrenchy29]

@@cooperlounsbury05 Just means they need to be watched again. Into the Spider-Verse too, if that hasn't been seen yet.

[@racool911]

"Only if you learn to glow like your auntie Carol" Monica: Ight Bet

[@leonardolonghi3472]

Wanda: "Oh, I can take care of that."

[@ligamer6786]

"We should just go do regular things in super hero costumes." Marry her!

[@XXXenophile]

If that isn’t a “Where’s the damn ring” moment…………..

[@RedCaio]

guys, they read the comments, don't make it weird for them.

[@henrytjernlund]

Wait. You mean all those superheros at the grocery store AREN'T really superheros??? Huh.

[@dracoargentum9783]

Once a window washing company went to work in superhero costumes, because that day they were scheduled to wash the kids ward at the local hospital.

[@3Rayfire]

@@RedCaio He Knows.

[@jimmygreer6172]

They knew Stan was in his last days so they had filmed like the last 5 cameos in advance. But if you notice, Stan is reading a Mallrats script supposedly on his way to the audition. But Stan was in such failing health that they weren't able to use his voice. So Kevin Fiege approached Kevin Smith to see if there was any audio that they could use and he gladly helped out. It really is a beautiful story. Kevin had given Stan his big break into movies and in one of his last appearances they brought it back to Stan's first real role in Hollywood.

[@dracoargentum9783]

Actually, they pre-recorded more than just 5 Stan Lee cameos, they have loads of him just doing stuff that they will digitally add into future movies.

[@jimmygreer6172]

@@dracoargentum9783 I hadn't heard that. And pretty sure Kevin Fiege said Endgame was the last of the Stan Lee cameos. Hence, none in Far From Home or any of the TV series.

[@struggleskywalker1025]

@@jimmygreer6172 he said far from home was his last cameo, not Endgame

[@jimmygreer6172]

@@struggleskywalker1025 and what cameo was in Far From Home? There wasn't. There's rumors of a Stan Lee cameo in No Way Home but everyone seems to think it'll be in the form of a photo or maybe an old video of his on a TV in the background. But Stan's in person cameos were done with Endgame.

[@rodrigopena449]

@@jimmygreer6172 And there was no cameo of Stan Lee in Spider-Man No Way Home. It was obvius but there was no reference too.

[@NoOneNeededToKnow]

It's crazy how the Tesseract has become its own character , just showing up in the strangest of places.

[@99xplord]

Even more crazy is that Shield would just let Mar-vel yeet Earth's greatest weapon into space somewhere.

[@Kal-El105]

Loki's main love interest

[@PrabodhR]

Jenn: They're peaceful aliens! *Secret invasion intensifies*

[@vkdeen7570]

peace is relative lol

[@joshbrosh6626]

Hehe can't wait

[@dm_dude]

Hulkling will calm them down

[@thomasbramer7496]

They called themselves refugees and something bad had to happen in their home world for them to become refugees.

[@MainRapperACEsahi]

@@thomasbramer7496 sounds familiar

[@SamukelisoNgobese]

Petition for a compilation video for every Jen's reaction to Stan Lee in the MCU.

[@alexiskahlert6788]

It's just gonna be "It's Stan Lee!" "Ahh Stan Lee!" "Stan Lee!" On and on and on 😂😂

[@justsomerandomguy992]

It shall be done

[@joehung1552]

@@justsomerandomguy992 it has been done.

[@RobinInnaHood]

Really like how Holden isn’t saying much before going into any of the movies. It’s great. Also Jen was always good, but I must say there’s a noticeable improvement on speaking on these movies. You never miss a beat, hit all the points. Whether Jen’s gonna like a movie or not, the way she describes reasons why is very fleshed out an refreshing to hear. Very easy to understand and relate to even if someone has different opinions. Love it guys thank you Holden and Jen for the content🤝

[@the_ZAMURAI]

For the MCU movies, he doesn’t say anything. For DCEU, he says a lot lmao

[@kplayzxp2376]

@@the_ZAMURAI DCEU is just so bad its hard to keep your opinions to yourself

[@JAYWALKER1000]

Comic bookie story: The original Captain Marvel was a character from Fawcett Comics - the character now known as Shazam. DC filed suit claiming Captain Marvel was a rip off of Superman. Fawcett stopped publishing Captain Marvel Comics. Marvel Comics wasn't even known as "Marvel Comics" at the time (Timely and Atlas were predecessors). The copyright on the name Captain Marvel ended and Marvel Comics scooped it up - creating a male Kree Captain Mar-Vell who is misidentified as a super-hero (there's one on every corner) because of his Kree uniform (the green and white one that was teased just before Carol gets the red, blue and gold version). His "super-powers" are Kree technology but he eventually gets the "Captain Marvel" powers on display here. There's an explosion where Captain Marvel and Carol Danvers are involved and Carol gains Captain Marvel super-powers and assumes the name Ms Marvel*. Time passes Captain Marvel dies - other characters assume the name (to preserve the copyright) and Carol goes thru name changes as well (Binary and Warbird) before assuming the title of Captain Marvel. *There has been a cheeky cross referencing of characters between Marvel & DC (sort of friendly adversary - okay we'll both do it and neither of us will sue the other). Carol Danvers directly references Supergirl by combining both her Kryptonian name Kara Zor-El and her secret identity Linda Danvers and both have pet cats with super powers. Marvel even hired Jim Mooney, the artist who drew the original Supergirl stories for Action Comics, to draw the MS Marvel comics.

[@liamhoseasson9856]

No one asked

[@Simon-rq7id]

@@liamhoseasson9856 Holden asked

[@liamhoseasson9856]

@@Simon-rq7id what time did he asked in the video

[@Simon-rq7id]

@@liamhoseasson9856 24:11

[@marimo.santoryu]

@@liamhoseasson9856 that's why you need to watch the reactions till the end.

[@elvixoveliz]

These "My ______ watches a movie for the first time" videos have literally made quarantine so much fun for me. It's amazing to see somebody react to films that we've seen so many times, it's honestly the closest I've felt to seeing a movie for the first time again (I know it's impossible, but you get the idea). And you guys are adorable as a couple as well, thank both of you for making these!

[@abnormallynormal8823]

“Only if you start glowing like your Aunt” Damn, that foreshadowing

[@woods2424]

wait what is this foreshadowing? I either missed it or am not piecing it together

[@Puckett.]

@@woods2424 she's photon from Wandavision.

[@Jansenbaker]

And I didn't even notice at the time because I didn't know Monica was a super hero in the comics. When watching WandaVision, and seeing breakdowns, I was introduced to the idea of Photon or one of many names.

[@gleekthemonkey4570]

@@Puckett. As if anyone is going to know who photon is. Lol

[@alexanderthegreat5649]

@@gleekthemonkey4570 yet we did lol

[@aje8790]

Considering how excited she was to see Coulson, she would really watch Agents of SHIELD.

[@xmatobujnakx]

true coulson in agents its even better

[@chofferz4658]

It's been requested a lot, they really should, it's criminally underrated

[@aje8790]

@@chofferz4658 It really is. Such a great show

[@Foxtrot5]

@@chofferz4658 ​For some reason, Holden hates Agents of SHIELD and nobody knows why. He only watched a couple of episodes but is willing to give Clone Wars three entire seasons before it gets good. Jen promises she'll eventually watch it, although it doesn't look like it'll be a video. Holden would love the show if he gave it half a chance.

[@xmatobujnakx]

@@chofferz4658 yea but its pretty long :D

[@deadshot7062]

Everyone after realizing what’s coming next. “We’re in the Endgame now.”

[@AverageJoes-cm2eo]

Anyone else bust out laughing from the dogs barking when the cat jumped on the desk at the end. Lol 😆

[@BigScreenMovies]

*Video Spoiler* *Jen's MCU Reviews/Rankings:* *Captain Marvel:* Generally enjoyed it. Not favourite MCU movie. Liked her sense of humour. Liked the storyline and twists. Longer than it should have. Liked Coulson's appearance. Appreciate a female lead superhero movie. Not enough spotlight given to her power. *6.5/10* *My Opinion:* The trailers never got me hyped for this movie. Ultimately, I never hated it, it was just kinda nothing. Very average and felt like a phase 1 origin movie. A strange place to introduce her character i think. A little boring at times but I like Fury and the skrulls. Fury's eye was funny at the time but a rubbish reason. Brie Larson I think was treated unfairly at times for sure. *4/10* *Jen's Rankings:* • Avengers: Infinity War *10/10* • Black Panther *9.5/10* • Captain America: Civil War *9/10* • Thor: Ragnarok *9/10* • The Avengers *8.5/10* • Iron Man 3 *8.5/10* • Thor: The Dark World *8.5/10* • Captain America: The Winter Soldier *8.5/10* • Ant-man *8.5/10* • Thor *8.5/10* • Avengers: Age of Ultron *8/10* • Guardians of the Galaxy 2 *8/10* • Iron Man *(Not rated)* • Iron Man 2 *7.5/10* • Doctor Strange *7/10* • Spider-Man: Homecoming *7/10* • Ant-Man and the Wasp *7/10* • Captain America: The First Avenger *6.5/10* • Hulk *6.5/10* • *Captain Marvel* *6.5/10* • Guardians of the Galaxy *6/10*

[@ssamuel649]

Pretty good. The top order ratings is decent but it becomes a little uncanny towards the bottom.

[@tmac731]

What sense of humor did Captain Marvel have?

[@invictafilms2690]

I think the way fury lost his eye was alright. He the type of person that exaggerates things and make a big deal about small things to appear a badass, he is but, it’s what makes him funny.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

@@tmac731 dry and sarcastic. Not for everybody, but it was sweet honey for a cynical guy like myself.

[@Rushking20]

Still hard to believe guardians 1 is her most disliked loll

[@Mach1Greeble]

Agents of Shield is where Coulson really shines.

[@randycrawford1132]

And Avengers before he was written out of it

[@matthewogletree]

AOS is severely underrated. You get so much good stuff in it.

[@Y0Da77]

"I've met god's. God's bleed." 😎

[@TemalCageman]

@@randycrawford1132 Actually, Coulsons popularity among fans (he started to show up in several Marvel movies since Iron man, and was quite a mysterious character) landed him a TV-series, and I think it was planned. Here is why... 1) Avengers needed someone popular (as in emotional for the audience) to die to then allow the audience to emotionaly involve themselves in the story going forward... Killing Coulson did that trick. And, from a script perspective, it made sense as well... to instagate the team to reform after the shitshow on the Helicarrier... 2) Joss Whedon was writing the script for Avengers together with Zak Penn (Joss also directed the movie). 3) Avengers came out in 2012, in the end of 2012, Agents of Shield got a greenlight from Marvel Television. The pilot was written by Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen. The pilot was also directed by Joss Whedon.

[@PrinceIMC]

It’s just becoming more and more clear that they’re making Agents of SHIELD non-canon.

[@a.j.sumano7578]

Fun Fact: the original cutout she blew up in the Blockbuster was Jim Carrey as The Mask due to his resemblance to Skrulls. But sadly they couldn’t get the rights. Also that’s so cool they shot in Pensacola because they also shot some scenes in my hometown as well!

[@aacproductions996]

Could you imagine if just as a funny Easter egg The mask was just thrown into odins treasure room in one of the Thor movies

[@eatsmylifeYT]

And why is that fun?

[@damyr55]

@@eatsmylifeYT Why would it not be a fun fact?

[@Vijay0Yadav]

It was based in 1990, The mask came out in 1994, how would that fit in??

[@a.j.sumano7578]

@@aacproductions996 you sir deserve a job at Marvel Studios!

[@GenerationWest]

People in the comments already explained the name in real life, and I applaud you all. Now in the movie, She wants to carry the legacy of her hero, Mar-Vell, and Fury's naming suggestion of Marvel being better, and since she's a Air Force Captain, thus her codename, Captain Marvel! People start calling her that in universe after that.

[@blueasthelifeshefled320]

I really appreciate Jen was noticing/ appreciating the costume choices and the love interests (or lack thereof). I really loved that and I'm glad someone else notices that too. Plus her smirk when Carol blasts Yon Rogg and saying "I have nothing to prove to you". Jen is the coolest person ever.

[@jenniferhardman]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@PizzaHutCEO]

All the males have love interests and shirtless scenes. Something to think about.

[@StayFractalesque]

yes, the pandering was excellent!

[@mustafakucukkurtul3678]

@@PizzaHutCEO so?

[@HoneyReno]

"I can meet you halfway" "Only if you glow like your aunty Carol" HMMMMMMMMMMMMM BET

[@reeyanmaknojiya8921]

Hahahaha just realised that!

[@kR-qj7rw]

they rally told us what was gonna happen and we were like lol kid

[@dracoargentum9783]

But does she really glow, or just her eyes?

[@gbytsh]

@@dracoargentum9783 Trust me she does !!

[@hoshantamsagar4847]

@@dracoargentum9783 she will, just wait

[@matthewagosto5289]

I don’t think any of us are ready for endgame and all the juiciness 😳

[@Deathyy550]

I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready!

[@parsnipcookingapp9342]

The juice is loose baby!!!

[@zomish13]

I'm ready!!

[@harrison4473]

When Jen said "We should go out in superhero outfits to do normal things" Holden new that was a life long dream that is completed,

[@dracoargentum9783]

Extra bonus points if Jen cosplays as Elastigirl when she goes for food shopping.

[@alberteaux]

Mar-Vell was a male Kree in the comics and he was the first Captain Marvel, he fell in love with Carol Danvers. During their adventures Carol was bombarded with energy and got powers, taking the name Ms Marvel. A bunch of other stuff happened (including Mar-Vell's death) and eventually Carol took the name Captain Marvel.

[@Emeraldnite-if7vo]

The reason Fury didn't use the pager sooner was because the Avengers were around to handle things. When he sees people disappearing he doesn't know if they are affected, which is why he reaches out.

[@SiFTWofficial]

Yeah this was an okay movie to me. Wasn't my fav, wasn't horrible either. But just waiting for Endgame :D

[@genghisgalahad8465]

Same!

[@thenedsmmachannel8970]

Yeah same. One of my least favorite movies in the MCU, not that its bad, I like all of them(even Dark World) but maybe cause of the lack of stakes and just waiting for Endgame probably knocked it down a few pegs.

[@frankholland3025]

This movie was just boring

[@Aryan-ck9lv]

@@thenedsmmachannel8970 I agree, endgame isn’t the best on its own, but definitely is a great end for the infinity saga

[@FeelItRising]

It was good. Incels didn't like it

[@bretts8070]

"Is that Jude Law?" No it's definitely a fish.

[@lakshanaaramkumar4765]

What video is that from?

[@bretts8070]

@@lakshanaaramkumar4765 It's one of Jen's most frequently asked questions on these videos, usually while watching a Star Wars movie. :)

[@jenniferhardman]

Honestly, valid answer. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@dandotvid]

She didn't call the Skrulls fish. I'm disappointed.

[@XXXenophile]

That answer was immediately popping in my head as well

[@pranavnnair5]

I totally agree with Jen's criticism about her powers. I also felt that her powers were not clearly defined and just left ambiguous which takes out a lot of weight and thrill from the story.

[@pittayayas]

Because its from a movie. Just like how it took Wanda about 3 movies and 9 episode series to finally define her powers.

[@kaisteven5907]

@@pittayayas it can be clear though. Shouldn't need multiple films and shows just to show viewers what the powers are

[@pittayayas]

@@kaisteven5907 Well, not all powers are clear. Iron Man is pretty clear. But when it comes to magic and glowy stones its harder for normie to get it

[@pranavnnair5]

@@pittayayas Yeah but she wasn't the main character in any movie. She was always present as a supporting character for other important characters. Because of this, we had warmed up to her. Also, wandavision was a very unique show and didn't rely on CGI battles to make it interesting. Wanda's appeal as a character was not her powers but her personality which Captain marvel has none of.

[@BlueSkullX]

@@pittayayas I mean, Carol's powers are pretty simple. Flight, blasting hands, and super strength. Then she has a mode where she can enhance it times 10. 🤷🏽 Pretty simple. Wanda can basically do anything in creation from exposure from the stones and she even put up a better fight against Thanos than Carol did.

[@Jbluez1]

“Why IS she called Captain Marvel?” Me: ....uh...because comic books? Huh.

[@dracoargentum9783]

Ah... Ah... Shazam! oh... 'scuse me...

[@hoshantamsagar4847]

Isn't captain marvel a male according to comic books

[@niconiconick]

@@hoshantamsagar4847 So the original Captain marvel was a male whos name was Mar-Vell and he was a Kree, Carol Danvers was a love interest of his from earth. Short story she gain his abilities and went by ms marvel for decades and in recent years took his name of Captain Marvel.

[@hoshantamsagar4847]

@@niconiconick is this from the comics or you're telling me the story of the movie

[@niconiconick]

@@hoshantamsagar4847 comics, nothing I said happened in the movie

[@masterofthechimichangas1306]

He didn’t use the device to contact her during other events because she was meant to be a last line of defense. And the Avengers we’re doing fine.

[@EdwardNygma007]

Except Scarlet Witch had it in the bag before she showed up. 🤷😂😂

[@OneAndOnlyMe]

Agree. Had the Avengers started losing the battle then Fury would have paged Danvers.

[@masterofthechimichangas1306]

@@EdwardNygma007 He didn’t call her in Endgame. And Wanda would be able to take the whole gunship down at that point.

[@EdwardNygma007]

@@masterofthechimichangas1306 last line of defense? Thanos didn't even care about her. He was more threatened by Wanda is all I'm saying. She wasn't needed. Like at all. 🤷

[@masterofthechimichangas1306]

@@EdwardNygma007 Why do you say that? Because you actually think that? Or because you don’t like the character? I think it’s the latter. When she went through that gunship and then distracted Thanos from snapping she was very necessary.

[@APeskyDunce]

The most accurate description of this movie that I heard is “it feels like a phase 1 movie”

[@squarewheel1587]

It is basically a phase 1 movie. It's an origin story and set in the 90's.

[@haridaspalleeri6765]

It is basically a phase 1 movie tbh

[@MainRapperACEsahi]

It's an origin movie. What would you expect?

[@ioahII]

@@MainRapperACEsahi well doctor strange does it feel like a phase 1 movie. Ant-Man either

[@michelmorio8026]

@@ioahII well, they aren‘t set in the past, are they? 😉

[@tomkvideo]

The de-aging on Sam Jackson is amazing in this movie. Until he has an action scene, and you see the 70 year old man underneath jogging and throwing punches.

[@philipthefool7253]

Just like Robert De Niro in The Irishman! 😂

[@vdoggydogg3922]

@@philipthefool7253 Stopping watching the Irishman when i saw that. Was kind of boring up then anyway.

[@philipthefool7253]

@@vdoggydogg3922 bro, exact same here!

[@crimsonhunter7598]

But still Black don't crack

[@yowiewowie8388]

I still can't believe that he's already 70 like he's gotta be 45 or something.

[@mermaidmelodies1492]

The Kree were ACTIVALY dampening Carol's powers AND suppressing Her Human Emotions, so It makes sense in context that She didn't "show off" the extent of or even understand the limits of Her Full potential and powers.

[@Grimjr7]

You do know just because something makes sense doesn't mean you have to accept it as something you like. Jen stated that them not having her show of her powers more it's something that lowered her personal enjoyment of the movie. Just because you can explain why it happened doesn't mean it didn't lower her personal enjoyment. She didn't say it was a plot hole or anything she just said it was something about the movie she didn't like.

[@justarandomveryintelligent8934]

@@Grimjr7 i think that sometimes we might dislike things because we might have missed info that explaims it. It doesnt have to be fixing plot hole to be information that increases someone's enjoyment.

[@Grimjr7]

@@justarandomveryintelligent8934 point is Her specific critique would not change based on new information. She stated she wished they showed off her powers more. Hypothetically speaking what new information would have made Jen not wish this? I get what you're saying I'm just saying in this specific situation I don't think explaining it would have changed her opinion. Explaining why someone can't have something doesn't make them no longer want it.

[@corvus1970]

"Like why are their ears like that?" So, you gonna ask Spock why his ears are like that too, Jen? LOL

[@StayFractalesque]

ol' boy needs to make her watch Lord of the Rings

[@Moxypony]

9:30 Fun fact: the bar in which they filmed this scene is in the middle of some crazy shit because the owner fought back hard against California's covid lockdowns. The whole building is fenced off and boarded up now

[@VikingMobile0927]

Just saying…Put the ring on her Holden…She’s down for CosPlay…And just for regular day stuff. Winner=Holden Hartmen

[@mass-cp6jf]

you act like these girls are hard to find.. all you have to do is leave your house and look for one.

[@beastmasterbg]

@@mass-cp6jf the fuck are you attacking him for . He was saying something positive

[@ZenSponge]

@@beastmasterbg No, no, no. Now he actually thinks you care enough to read his response. Pretend your his father and just walk away.

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

@@mass-cp6jf Finding a woman who's into nerdy stuff, cosplay, among other things *CAN* be hard to find 😂

[@TemalCageman]

@@AscendedXSaiyan Especially if you are a nerd, but not that much of a nerd. :D

[@philipthefool7253]

The sacred timeline decrees that Endgame is next!

[@josebeteta8283]

The Time Keepers have deemed it so 😝🥲

[@donat5679]

@@josebeteta8283 those stupid robots

[@niklashannemann8482]

@@donat5679 I mean noone said that we saw the actual Timekeepers. Having their powers I actually would create a clone to do things like talking to the TVA, knowing that they can fck me. I know that several theories say that those where the actual "timekeepers" but thats the fun of thinking, you can do it apart from what others say^^

[@MeteoraFigure.09]

I think there's only ONE "Time keeper", and that is Kang, and he just made robots to talk to the TVA when needed

[@WoodysPickle]

Jens face during the Flurkin scenes: PRICELESS

[@madnessarcade7447]

Captain marvel is fun and wholesome Doesn’t deserve the hate

[@jonsimpson6240]

If you just turn your brain off and ignore the writing, sure. I guess.

[@diegopansini3152]

Captain Marvel's character definitely doesn't scream fun and wholesome. She screams...not much other than snarky

[@phantomfaith2001]

@@diegopansini3152 I think he meant the movie as a whole

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

@@jonsimpson6240 I like that it didn't turn its brain off the entire movie, and had something relevant to say about xenophobia and empire. Especially during a time when refugee children were being kidnapped by Stephen Miller, despite every judge ruling against him.

[@jonsimpson6240]

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 like how the scrulls were villainous and made no attempt to preserve their lives untill after the "twist" was revealed? Whatever current issues you want to bring into the fiction, and whatever you get out of the movie is up to you, but from a pure writing standpoint if you think at all about it it starts falling apart.

[@Sunkcostfallecy]

Not one of the greatest movie of MCU but still a solid enjoyable movie.

[@plutoniumparker3849]

Jen would love Agents of Shield You guys should start watching that when you're done with the MCU

[@reedharrington6954]

Yea honestly I’d be more excited about them watching agents of shield rather than clone wars

[@Sunkcostfallecy]

@@reedharrington6954 Holden is a huge Star Wars fan.

[@unoverse2438]

@@reedharrington6954 as a fan of both sw and marvel i think it’d be much more rewarding for holdon to watch the clone wars in regards to what he’d get out of it

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

AoS has its moments, but it’s mostly very eh.

[@blopez8599]

Too long. It worked okay when it was airing but the mcu has evolved & the show will feel outdated.

[@connerredson7242]

As someone who went to the London premier of blackwidow, can say it's absolutely amazing. You are all gonna absolutely love it

[@eatsmylifeYT]

As if going to the premiere wasn't already cool, you had to throw in London, too. Humble much?

[@ioahII]

Does it have humour?

[@connerredson7242]

@@ioahII yes and it's actually really good

[@ioahII]

@@connerredson7242 so excited to see it!

[@rv2664]

Has to be with all this wait

[@2demilanesa]

It was a pretty weird situation when this movie came out. But at the end is a decent movie! So hyped about the Marvels!

[@ChrisDoesLife]

It's rewatchable and enjoyable for me. It feels like it's missing something, but I can't 100% figure it out

[@itsyvonblitz6819]

@@ChrisDoesLife a good main character

[@zero_snow4511]

@@itsyvonblitz6819 haha lol

[@xlmlghazexl1005]

A decent villain is what it's missing. It's basically bre Larson battling herself the whole movie

[@genghisgalahad8465]

@@ChrisDoesLife know exactly what you mean although I don’t know exactly what it needs. It needed a better story and screenplay. The writing credits weren’t assigned with focus. It was written like a polite classroom group project for the sake of a grade instead really working out a good story, you know? Plus there was a lot of story TELLING done by the characters instead of playing it out and showing the audience. It was often distractingly meta and its action for a mega-powerful hero were not that kinetic.

[@Foxtrot5]

Brie Larson talking about reviewers was in response to 'A Wrinkle in Time', a movie predominantly colored/female in its cast. A lot of minority reviewers favored the movie, while some white male reviewers were more critical of the movie. When asked her opinions on the latter, Larson stated that as the movie was made for minorities, she valued their thoughts more in that instance, which is more than fair. People twisted this to say that she hates white males, and I don't know why.

[@c3cil89]

That movie was garbage..

[@jesusmarley2607]

because valuing a persons opinion based upon a persons immutable characteristics is a dick move. My skin colour has no bearing whatsoever on the validity of my perspectives. Saying otherwise is based in hate. full stop.

[@Foxtrot5]

@@jesusmarley2607 When something is catered for another person, their opinions are valued more. Do you think Victoria's Secret is going to conduct market research on men or women?

[@jesusmarley2607]

@@Foxtrot5 given the new "models" that VS is going with, you answered your own question.

[@619able]

@@jesusmarley2607 stop playing the victim card

[@xmatobujnakx]

That truth lives inside you, Coulson. Before it was torn apart, S.H.I.E.L.D. was a lot of moving parts. Guys like you were the heart.

[@snoshio6043]

“I understood that reference”

[@markmckeever3237]

Stan Lee's next to last cameo as himself w/Kevin Smith's script was perfect. #RIPStanLee

[@itdano]

Which officially puts Kevin Smith in the MCU as himself.

[@brandyanderson3522]

Extra special as Mallrats was his first

[@pigs18]

Born of necessity. Stan was very feeble at this point and couldn't speak up. The audio you hear is discarded audio from Mallrats.

[@MaxStone289]

@@brandyanderson3522 you've never seen Clerks?

[@itdano]

She meant that Mallrats was Stan's first cameo.

[@gundamOPS]

In the comics, Mar-Vell who went by Dr Walter Lawson on Earth, a male Kree, was the original Captain Marvel. Danvers got her powers the same way, but Lawson didn't die here. Danvers went on to become Ms Marvel for many years. She only became Captain Marvel in 2012.

[@goldiebackwash]

Tony: Up there that's the endgame Strange: We're in the endgame now Holden: We'll catch ya in endgame All 3 provide goosebumps

[@randycrawford1132]

If Samuel L. Jackson likes Brie Larson then she can’t be that bad she’s no nonsense

[@EdwardNygma007]

If amber heard says she's innocent I believe her too. 🤷🤣🤣🤣

[@OneAndOnlyMe]

Exactly! You don't argue with Jackson's judgement.

[@natecloe8535]

Watch ANY captain Marvel interview with her and any cast members. They can't stand her and it's obvious. Snapping snarky at Chris Hemsworth about doing her own stunts..thank you very much...Don Cheadle got VERY annoyed and told her to stop touching him like 4 times in one interview. He wasn't joking, that's wishful thinking from women who think she's suddenly the face of Marvel that everybody is blessed to be able to witness...all hail the fem..... She's AWFUL. Entitled is too tame a word for Brie Larson.

[@gleekthemonkey4570]

@@natecloe8535 People think they know about people's relationships after watching a couple interviews. Lmao

[@OneAndOnlyMe]

@@natecloe8535 Wah wah wah. So what? Just enjoy the damn movie.

[@Mistah47]

10:43 Holden was tempted to pause it here before he remembered that they show it again later.

[@phantomjokers2347]

“Stop right there , I’m in” I understood that reference 😜

[@tigertoes7212]

What reference?🤣

[@zeke4994]

@@tigertoes7212 The Flash says it to Batman in Justice League.

[@seniorordenanza2387]

Lol that’s a DC and a Marvel reference in one comment this is insanity! You’re awesome. 😂

[@temporary7883]

35:00 what does Jen mean more power display loll she flew into space and destroyed multiple alien ships probably the biggest power feat we’ve seen

[@mrfamer3752]

She meant more display throughout the moive, not just at the end.

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

@@mrfamer3752 it’s an origin story though.

[@PantsuMaster]

@Halbinoni Sees more of her power but knows less of her power. That’s an oxymoron bro. The thing with all of the mcu origin movies so far is that everyone has a limit, right? Her origin, however, was very different. Her limit wasn’t tested physically but mentally. She never reached the limit in her power because throughout the movie, she was already being limited. Her ending became a release instead. A release of that limiter. That is why she had nothing to prove, because she had already proven it.

[@Helldog6]

As far as the controversy goes, I think one of the biggest issues was that you already had some really great female superheroes in the MCU that Marvel kinda just pushed the side (namely, Black Widow and Scarlet Witch) that the fans loved and had wanted to see have their own movies for a while, only for Captain Marvel to be the one to get the "first female superhero" movie of the MCU, shoved in between the finale of over a decade of build up, for what was ultimately - in my opinion any way - a role that didn't need to exist. I think the somewhat strong "feminism" and political messaging throughout its build up and in its trailer, in addition to the comments Brie Larson had made and the perception of her being "unlikable" just added to the fire. I absolutely do not believe that this movie would've received the backlash it did had it happened after Phase 3. I also don't believe that this movie would've been as divisive had Brie Larson not said what she said. Wonder Woman, which treads on very similar lines in its own universe and came out BEFORE this movie, was not nearly as decisive or politicized and was viewed at the time (and still is by many) as the best movie in the DCEU.

[@brucenatelee]

6:49 I like casting like this, where they get actual relatives (they are actually twins here) to play as something other than actual relatives. Got a small list of these, such as Sarah Conner in Terminator 2 having her real life twin sister play her reflection to avoid showing the movie equipment in a real mirror, as well as Dark having the antagonist (forgot his name, but represents 3 generations of the same guy) have the oldest and adult versions played by the father and son. In Black Panther, the younger version of King T'Chaka was played by the son who played the older King T'Chaka.

[@adaytorememberfan121]

As a quick reminder to Jenn, Wanda still hasn’t been called Scarlett Witch in the movies but we as an audience still know her by that name. I assume that down the line, she’ll be called Captain Marvel by someone

[@nykovik]

prediction before watching this: Jen is gonna love Goose the cat Edit: Eh

[@10Athulroy]

How is your comment 1 day ago While the video is just released 1hr ago

[@samuelstephen2762]

@@10Athulroy patreon privileges for patrons, if I'm not mistaken

[@ekanshgupta2421]

@@10Athulroy he used the time stone

[@winthorpe7561]

@@ekanshgupta2421 The TVA: 😐

[@jacktait9849]

@@ekanshgupta2421 lol

[@Jon_FM]

So in case no one covered this. Mar-vell in comics was a Kree who came to earth and eventually came to disagree with the Kree on a number of things. He and yes in comics the character is a he. Became a super hero taking the name Captain Marvel... Carol Danvers was his love interest in the 70s I think, when she got hit with a power wave during an experiment gone wrong. She became Ms. Marvel in CM's honour. Eventually as both the two characters lead comics stopped selling they were removed from single issues. Ms Marvel would go through some awful storylines that eventually ended up with her essense being accidentally stolen permanently by Rogue making her a different and very cold character as her life was basically taken away and combined into Rogue... which is how Rogue became an X-Man. Carol eventually takes up the mantle of Captain Marvel after his "death" and that is kind of where the modern character was born. Kelly DeConnick has a fabulous run of a couple of years covering these changes and basically is the basis for the MCU version. As someone who read a lot of the post Civil War Ms Marvel and Captain Marvel I was excited for this movie but it did not hold up as well as I hoped. I thought Brie did OK but I think the storyline was weak. There was just too much to do in a short period.

[@taljaardtmostert]

No it's because of Shazam

[@valithevali]

Woohoo! Been waiting patiently on Patreon for this :)

[@SeanS102]

I love the way the origin story is told as back story, a really inventive way to remix something we've seen a million times.

[@gabriel812]

I don't know why people question why Fury didn't use the pager in the other movies; the point of creating the Avengers is so they can protect the planet while Captain Marvel is gone, and for emergencies only, and that is when the Avengers fail, once they truly failed, it was time to bring in the big gun.

[@samuelmcloving1761]

Why not call her? she have better thing to do? she could take a break of exploding space battleship with her fist to save her planet

[@gabriel812]

@@samuelmcloving1761 Well she does make the point that big shit does happen on other planets. If the Avengers fail, then Captain Marvel comes in. It's basic chess strategy lol.

[@CandleLight129]

There were a lot of weird decisions made for this movie. I also know Brie is a better actor than the performance she gives here. It was a fine movie but it could have been better. As for why Nick Fury didn't call Cpt Marvel earlier, Matt Patt from Film Theory actually comes up with a pretty good reason if you want to check that out.

[@haridaspalleeri6765]

That was my problem with this movie too. I've seen Brie give amazing performances before far better than this

[@youmadornahhh]

Maybe Brie’s performance is based on the direction sh was given.

[@speakingofcinema8810]

I'll have to check out Film Theory's video. ScreenCrush did a video comparing Captain Marvel to The First Avenger and basically fixed Captain Marvel. I really wish there they had taken the approach ScreenCrush describes.

[@CandleLight129]

@@youmadornahhh Could have been. I'm not necessarily blaming her personally, just critiquing the final result.

[@jamesburgess2k]

Great actors, okay/passable script, but very poor directing. You can tell that they gave little direction on how to deliver lines or what type of emotions to portray in scenes. That's partly why Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelssohn give the only great performances, because they just did their own thing with their roles, whereas Brie Larson and Jude Law were a bit "phoned in" with their performances. I really hope they get a new director for the sequel

[@sergeantk]

agents of shield is really good and honestly very underrated. u should watch it with matt and jen

[@daniellanctot6548]

Jen MUST react to Agents of SHIELD : She will love it (Betcha Holden will learn to love it too)

[@littlesparrow303]

Well I don’t think Matt & Jen will be doing anymore. In the My friend watched end video. They talked about it & Matt will be working on his own stuff.

[@markmckeever3237]

Good to see your pup w/o the cone of shame and alert ready to "attack" your TV. Ha I spent $3000 to save my pup who had his intestines clogged up by pieces of a (bleepin) tennis ball. Money well spent as I feel you know yours is worth every cent.

[@thereallyst]

When her mentor, the original Captain Marvel (Mar-vell), who went against his own kind to defend Earth from the Kree died of cancer, she took up the mantle of Captain Marvel. Anyway they try to kill Mar-vell. Danvers was head of security on a USAF base he was at in his secret identity. His DNA was spliced into hers from an explosion and that's how she got her powers. She originally went by Ms. Marvel and then Binary, Warbird then Captain Marvel. She is also the reason Rogue from the X-Men gets her powers ...

[@kbob9625]

Jen, “what her super power is going to be” She’s basically a super saiyajin lol

[@chand911]

This movie would have probably been recieved better if it wasn't between Infinity War and End Game, At this point people just wanted to get back to the main event.

[@kavehteimory6413]

But it did get recieved better box office wise!

[@Fathom_CC]

It would have done better if Brie Larson wasn’t making enemies with the rest of the avengers cast.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

@@Fathom_CC she didn't. Please just from one interview no one can say csst hate her

[@blinkachu5275]

@@Fathom_CC She didn't. That's what online commenters made out of it due to the overflow of misinformation or misrepresented information.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

@@blinkachu5275 yup

[@mathewlang5749]

The whole reason for naming this Character Captain Marvel is all because of a lawsuit between Comic Book Publishers which started back in 1941. VERY long story short, Marvel Comics must publish some type of story featuring a Character named Captain Marvel to maintain its Copyright on the name Captain Marvel.

[@sdb7092]

No it isnt, and thats not what he ask. hes asking how he ended up being called that in the universe. and the reason they call her Captain Marvel is because before Caroll became Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell was Captain Marvel, and the reason they called him that is because(just as we see in the movie, where Furry is talking top Carol while washing dishes he accidently mispronouncess Mar-Vells name, then he goes on to say that Marvel sound better.) i believe the same thing happens in the comics, why was Mar-Vell called Marvel? because people mispronounce his name so he went with it. also, he was an airforce captain, which axplains why hes has "captain" in his name as well, and thats what Holden was asking.

[@ohb71303]

Jen: “why is she called Captain Marvel?” Me: wait a second… why do they call her Captain Marvel?” Jen complains about not knowing about the movies and how people had to wait a whole year for End Game. Me: “So when’s Blade?”

[@gahrie]

Captain Marvel was created by a different comic company that Marvel bought. he was Superman clone, and DC sued. (This original Captain Marvel would become Shazam and ironically is owned by DC now) Marvel comics took over the copy right for the Captain Marvel name. The first Marvel Captain Marvel was a Kree named Mar-Vell who was a captain in the Kree military. They published different versions of the hero over the tears to maintain the copyright to the name. The Danvers version is at least the sixth version of the character by Marvel.

[@22antricha]

Probably because Nick Fury is really the only one that talked to her and he said marvel sounds better than mar-vel. When asked who she was he probably said captain marvel.

[@danilopapais1464]

Another one? Aren't 3 movies enough for blade?

[@masterofthechimichangas1306]

@@danilopapais1464 An mcu Blade is coming out, if you didn’t already know…

[@danilopapais1464]

@@masterofthechimichangas1306 Well, with the old ones being Marvel productions and owned by Disney I thought it would be enough. I might have heard about another Blade movie but I probably forgot because I don't really care for Blade.

[@redvulpa1324]

Ronan the accuser was in this film as the Kree commander. He was the main bad guy in Guardians of the Galaxy.

[@EclipseEH]

“Let me stop you right there, I’m in “ I see you Holden with Justice League/Flash reference

[@PotatoesFromSaturn]

God I remember the shitstorm when this movie came out. I love that these guys feel the same exact way I did. I honestly didn't care at all. Sometimes people get so angry & carried away with these controversies. It's just a movie... it wasn't even bad either 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@spirittammyk]

Yes, it was that bad. It's why Marvel is dragging it's feet in making the sequel because they know the box office will be terrible. I think Marvel knows it's next best thing is going to be diving into the X-Men now that they finally got the rights back.

[@619able]

@@spirittammyk marvel dragging their feet? A sequel has been worked on even before the first movie came out. Feige even said she’s the most powerful avenger which is justified. Is she the strongest? Probably not. But the must powerful can be justified. Marvel is no way hesitant in making the sequel. Ms. Marvel was already talked about when in production of this film. Let’s not forget, there were scrapped plans of introducing capt. marvel in age of ultron. To say marvel is dragging their feet just because of box office shows you’re projecting your frustration and sexism onto things that aren’t necessarily true. Toxic masculinity is a real thing

[@spirittammyk]

@@619able I'm a lady, and there is no toxic masculinity going on in the MCU. And Carol Danvers is boring. I prefer Black Widow or Gamora because they are real heroes that women can relate to.

[@619able]

@@spirittammyk I never said there’s toxic masculinity in the mcu. There’s toxic masculinity in these comments and all over the internet. I have not seen 1 justifiable reason for not liking capt. marvel. Every reason relates to the misquoted thing she said. No actor should deserve hate or death threats just because what you said is misquoted

[@mythsmiracles]

@@spirittammykthey had character development plus acted in many MCU movies. Captain Marvel was only in one movie just give her some time

[@alike03]

21:35 They knew the WandaVision script. I just realised it.

[@luffysho8216]

Warlock should of gotten this spot and had a movie it would make sense 4 years since vol 2 and he’s the main character in the actual infinity gauntlet storyline no plotholes would be needed

[@shirolalama8408]

This

[@jimmygreer6172]

Yessss!!! Finally. AVENNNNNNGERSSSS......*assemble* I've been waiting a LONG time to see how she reacts to Captain America in the next video.

[@swaswj414]

I'm sure this has been answered a hundred times before I even watched the video, but "Captain Marvel" in the original 1967 comics was Mar-Vell (a male Kree). Carol Danvers made her debut in 1977 and was in an explosion with Mar-Vell like the movie, but her powers came from him, not an Infinity Stone. She went by Ms. Marvel for years before inheriting the title Captain Marvel, after Mar-Vell's death and with Steve Roger's recommendation. The little girl in the movie, Monica Rambeau, actually became Captain Marvel in the comics way back in 1982, while Carol didn't get the title until 2012. Superhero names in comics are very often passed on to multiple holders. Jane Foster even became Thor for a time.

[@scarey23]

Agreed that the backlash was heavy handed. There are a lot of people that were super defensive for the critical view of men in the form of the biker and the flashback male pilot... but they fail to highlight the fact that Fury, Colson, and even Talos modeled a balanced and feminist behavior. They didn't immediately categorize Danvers or Rambeau as female. Unlike biker and pilot, they identified them as a superhuman being and a fighter pilot first. It's not about vilifying men. It's about modeling appropriate and inappropriate behavior as well as normalizing the appropriate behavior. Honestly, I've seen a lot of inappropriate behavior towards women from men (women too). We could use more of this in the media we consume.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Plus the US Military WAS like that to women in the early 90s. It's thankfully gotten a lot better since.

[@Bensonders]

Remember, this is the MCU, where every male lead must have a topless scene in his own movie so he can get sexualized, even the underaged(character wise) ones. People just don't like hypocrisy and all the stirring that the media did before cpt. Marvel + the weird time to shoehorn her in + actually and retroactively naming the avengers after her didn't go unnoticed. Then on top you got Marvels cutthroat policy in the cinemas and the whole scandal about sold out cinemas that were completely empty, not just in the US. There were many factors that overshadowed the actual movie.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

@Halbinoni No... Most guys really were like that in the late 80s and early 90s. Times've just changed a lot.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

@Halbinoni I fucking LIVED it, man. It's how it was.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

@Halbinoni Weren't a very observant kid then, were you.

[@ZenSponge]

Jen: Stan Lee. Also Jen: Stan Lee! Still Jen: Stanly!!!!! Jen’s Stan Lee has evolved into a Stanly, Ghost type Pokémon.

[@Thrifty646]

I think that the only thing holding this movie back is how it’s very hard and awkward to introduce a brand new lead role right before endgame came out which was suppose to the closing story to most of the main avengers. She feels very forced into the saga and I think they should have waited until after endgame or her story could have come out and anytime in the last two phases

[@vdoggydogg3922]

That being said, some of the major plot points early in the movie revolved around her power/knowledge, so in way they wrote themselves into a corner. They had a plan, not everyone will like the outcome. Glad she was not the major factor in End Game.

[@Thrifty646]

@@vdoggydogg3922 she’s practically the Superman of the mcu and it’s hard to make a character like that compelling and relatable when she has no weakness and can do anything

[@TemalCageman]

@@vdoggydogg3922 I think she was A major factor in End Game, not THE major factor, true... I think all of the Marvel heroes got their moments in that movie... That said... even if her screentime was short, she did save Tony Stark from dying in space and in the end battle she completely destroyed Thanos all spaceships quite quickly and during a tense moment when Thanos got hold of the gauntlet, she managed to prevent him from doing the snap. She stalled Thanos long enough for Stark to use his techology to transfer the glove to himself.

[@TemalCageman]

@@Thrifty646 Well... to early to say... sure, she is very powerfull. Unlike Superman, she currently doesn't have any know weakness. Maybe we will learn more about that in the second Captain Marvel movie that is planned? I am currently watching Superman and Lois TV series, and damn, they make him very relatable. I do not want to spoil anything, but, he is exposed to lots of his weaknesses in that series for sure.

[@papl20]

Goddamn... I think you just solved the puzzle. Ever since the movie came out (with endgame) I've been racking my brain over what felt off about her. And let me tell you I really liked this movie and I love captain marvel but you guys are absolutely correct. She's like the superman and we don't know her weaknesses.

[@CineRam]

Captain Marvel is Carol's "brand" like Iron Man. The other avengers don't call gum that, they just call him Tony. You may noticed that one ever calls Wanda "Scarlet Witch" in the films, either. Basically, the movie is called Captain Marvel because the comics (in which Carol is the main character) are called Captain Marvel.

[@hgc7000]

That Stan cameo with the Mallrats script, and the opening crawl.... Them feels! !!!

[@Etticos.]

“As a woman that has been in the military” Daaaamn, not only is Jen funny, smart, beautiful, likes good movies, but she is a warrior too? Holden you lucky devil.

[@edgarcia4794]

Dress as superheroes? Jen as Maria Hill in the SHIELD uniform would kick ass. She could easily be a credible agent.

[@ahdvd]

“Only if you learn to glow like your auntie Carol...” !

[@Adman009]

Great video man, wish everyone could be as patient and respectful as you guys. Everyone has an opinion especially when it's a how we feel on topics. No one is wrong or right, just feelings. Love the video can't wait to see you guys react to endgame 😁

[@TerenceReilly]

I love watching this whole video series. It's awesome to see Jen's reactions during the movies. It makes me feel like I am watching the movies for the first time all over again. You two are doing a great job and I am anxiously waiting for the next installment.

[@CultOfMU]

I'm doing the same thing. Live the best moments again in 1/3rd of the time. And I get to do it again when mini-me grows old enough :D

[@kilroy987]

I went into this movie being excited about what Captain Marvel would add to the universe. But her character really didn't have that much of an arc, and I didn't feel a lot of heart to the movie - I found it pretty basic. It was of course marketed as a woman power movie, but that doesn't mean a lot when the character doesn't have a lot of arc. Her flashbacks of falling weren't changed much by her memories being blocked, and that all along, after falling, she stood back up. Remembering your past and removing a piece of tech suppressing your abilities isn't much of an arc. I saw sections of comics with her as a character, and she displayed emotions there - but I didn't see a lot here. That would have added a lot. Really waiting for the Endgame reaction!

[@SquirrellyFries]

All it needed was a few tweaks, honestly. They could have had something good if they played up her insecurities early in the film - perhaps she's too eager to prove herself and often gets goaded into doing reckless or unwise things - and then at the end when she says "I have nothing to prove to you" it feels like she's grown. Her arc could have been from "desperate for external validation" to "secure in her innate worth". That might even have been what they were going for, but it didn't land.

[@GFV28]

I feel like the movie was decent for what it was but I strongly think it deserved better directors like the first half of the movie had really slow pacing and it didn’t help Brie develop her character properly.

[@GFV28]

Aggelikos 88 stfu it’s my opinion dude...

[@giuseppepiuma1965]

Yes I like a lot of stuff about her more in the comics, she's definitely more tridimensional

[@matthewagosto5289]

And I also think y’all WOULD LOVE AGENTS OF SHIELD on Netflix !!! It’s kinda lengthy but I think it’s well worth the watch

[@isthou]

best superhero show and it's not even close, even high on my overall shows list :D

[@reedharrington6954]

@@isthou what about daredevil and punisher

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

Even Iron First is better than AoS.

[@jwhitaker42599]

1000% agree. Jen would love it.

[@matthewagosto5289]

@@reedharrington6954 those two shows and agents of shield are the holy trinity of marvel shows besides the ones we’re getting on Disney+ now.

[@kveld9893]

The visuals in this movie are outstanding!

[@Wade978]

In the comics, Carol was working a dude(forgot his "name") on some stuff when something went down and it was revealed that he was an alien named Mar Vell. They was an explosion and some kree energy/DNA mixing with hers and that's how she got her powers.Later on, she used his(Mar Vell was a dude, the original captain Marvel) name inspiration and became Miss Marvel (before revamping herself into Captain Marvel later on)

[@eugenegrewing2587]

Her powers are true to the comic. She’s extremely powerful. So powerful she doesn’t know her full abilities.

[@JamesWiseMagic]

I'm definitely in the minority when I say I actually enjoyed this movie. Was it the best marvel movie in the world, no of course not, but I still really really enjoyed this. I personally don't really have any issues with Brie Larson and I'm very interested in where her character goes from here. It kinda sucks that people spread so much hate especially since a lot of the overall point of superhero movies is to stand up against that very thing. Constructive criticism is good, some people just won't like this movie and that's ok but this HUGE outrage over Brie Larson and this movie I just don't believe is deserved. Next is ENDGAME!!!! I can't wait to see her reaction to that movie!

[@sbubbs6738]

IMO Most people enjoy this movie. But there is a very vocal minority that hates it

[@benweaver3267]

Fully agree with this statement!

[@throwacnt7603]

Well the thing is, Brie Larson herself spread "hate" herself, that's a BIG part of why people don't like her, it didn't come out of nowhere. Wonder Woman has a LOT of feminist undertones but Gal Gadot has never been combative, unpleasant and unwelcoming to a large segment of her audience. (Also kinda ironic you mention that that's the point of a superhero... when she assaulted that dude in the motorcycle but that point has been beaten to death by now so I wont really bother with it)

[@vkdeen7570]

it was a meh movie to me personally but it did get some over the top hate. brie was unnecessarily antagonising and controversial but that's not the movies fault. I also think it suffered from the fact that ppl wanted a bw movie especially as the first female lead mcu movie for me it was a 6/10 not dreadful but certainly 1 of the weaker mcu movies (but that is a good standard)

[@stefan3597]

I think a lot of people realy overreacted on hating larson without knowing why. The statement she made wasnt even that bad, if a movie doesnt appeal to a specific audience and that aucience is giving it bad reviews then obviously their opinions shouldnt be what people take away from a movie.

[@neptunemedia8746]

Watching this movie after WandaVision and Endgame makes it even better.

[@cameronbaker97]

not only should you two watch Agents Of SHIELD (even though it starts getting non-canon with the MCU with season 6), you should also watch Agent Carter, which takes place from 1946 to 1947, Agent Carter doesn't really impact the MCU in any way, but it does explore Peggy Carter's character more after Steve is presumed dead, it's also more canon than Agents Of SHIELD is, but that's a whole other story honestly.

[@connormacmillan2803]

22:07 I think the answer to this question is in the first avengers movie. Fury says during the battle of New York that until he is certain that the avengers can’t handle the problem he isn’t going to order a nuclear strike. I think the same thing goes for calling captain marvel. He won’t do it until he is certain the issue is out of the avengers control.

[@slurpdurp9359]

You would not believe how loud the movie theater got when Fury said he was born in Huntsville Alabama! I live about 40 minutes from Huntsville and saw the movie a couple miles from the city!

[@Sunkcostfallecy]

I appreciate how maturely and rationally Holden broke down the outrageous events to Jen. I'm not surprised but rather impressed. Love ya man.

[@MrDash711]

“They didn’t give her powers enough spotlight” …she spent like 20 straight minutes in space dogfighting alien spaceships & flying through warships?

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

I was about to type this lol

[@the0thersyde725]

Fury didn't need to contact her in Avengers and Age of Ultron because he already had the Avengers which was the whole point of forming the Avengers in the first place.

[@spirittammyk]

And it's too convenient that she never hears of Thanos and that she survives the snap. I just think they should have saved her for phase 4 and be part of one of the new time lines.

[@howradisit]

Jen brings up a really good point about us not getting to see a story about her powers. Although I do think we got to see some progression in that regard, I definitely don't think we got to see enough as might be expected out of a hero's origin story. I won't fault anyone for this, as they had so many things going on. What everyone had to do was astronomical. They had to introduce not only one character and backstory, but basically introduce 2 species. They also had to introduce a Thanos-level power and come up with a good enough explanation as to why they were not previously involved. They also had to fit everything into one movie. That's a really tough job. A lot of the other movies really got to grow and had their own breathing room, so they could really take their time with the hero and their struggle. Some of them even got several movies to do this, like Thor and Iron Man. I think they did about the best they could do with what they had going for them

[@bertolwong9109]

Carol is actually the 2nd Captain Marvel in Marvel comics. The initial Captain Mar-Vell was a male Captain of the Kree army. She got her powers in the comics in a scene somewhat similar to the movie. A device hit Mar-Vell and transferred them to her. She was initially known as Ms. Marvel until Captain Mar-Vell died in the comics. She took his name in honor of him after he passed away.

[@sdb7092]

Actualy, there have been several people who have take the mantle before Carol. Mar-Vell , Monica Rambeau, Genis-Vell, Phyla-Vell, Khn'nr, Noh-Varr and finally Carol Danvers. though i feel Carol should have gottenthe mantle after Mar-Vells death. she just seem like the right choice.