My Idea For The Isle's Magyarosaurus(i've cracked the case)

[@crabhater9373]

A couple other ideas I had were to make it more of a supportive element for big herds. Maybe the ability to stun quicker animals so slower herbivores could land the finishing blow. Or maybe it can provide some sort of dietary buff. Like maybe it's dung acts like really good fertilizer and make plants spawn faster/ yield more nutrition. Another way would be to make it live on the beach. The real animal was an island dweller, so it's not a bad inference to say it swam well. Or maybe they can drink sea water or can eat seaweed. Not that many animals live on the coast so it would have at least some protection. The problem a lot of people seem to have with magy is it's stats being too realistic making it useless or being too absurd where it becomes a different animal. Maybe what magy needs is a couple of non stat related buffs to improve it's utility rather than it's matchups.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i think some people mentioned magy and some other dinos to be supportive to others's gameplay but they shut that idea down pretty quickly

[@graciliraptor3990]

I guess the whole problem with magy, is that irl it only got dwarfed when it was isolated from all potential predators in an island, so it is unbalanced in its essence 😂 but I hope they come up with an innovative way to fix it, otherwise I think its hella cool to play a mini sauropod

[@amirayub4974]

When I think of magy in the isle I think of an okapi, laying in thick jungles and only coming out to drink,eat fruit or migrate

[@StelloTyrannus]

I like the idea of making it heavier than it looks, making it slightly less than allo makes enough sense to me, being a sauropod it should be a bit more defensive

[@lvl5dino749]

Honestly, I don't think it needs the weight buff. Give magy Tail whip: for smaller things Body Slam (does a little bleed from the armour, let it maybe stun) Neck attack -> stomp (can knock over creatures as big as a carno) Armour: attacks to its back deal .8x damage instead of 1.0x damage. Make it approximately teno speed, but give it much more stamina. Basically, have it similar to teno, able to fight carno (even though both of them can be knocked over) and win, but can outstam Allo and Alberto. I don't personally think it's too hard to balance magy, if you treat it similar to teno.

[@magnarcreed3801]

I’d put it a little slower than te to due to its biology but definitely agree with the rest. Give that bitch stam and great strode length.

[@shoe644]

I think it shouldnt be as fast as teno because then it is essentially a giant teno

[@scottthesmartape9151]

@@shoe644 it’s a dwarf sauropod in a world where carnos are going to go Mach 1 once they become hypo

[@BaldianOfIbelin]

should be a good distance runner and take reduced damage in the tail

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

id like that

[@lynx17012]

Magy's posture looks really sturdy as compared to other (theropod) dinos so bigger dinos will have hard time toppling it down and damaging its poise. A Defensive Stance ability with stun and bleed resistance and ability to topple bigger dinos of their feet will be good

[@lectroeel6290]

Devs should replace many with shunosaurus because it's also a small sauropod and and can actually be viable with it's club tail. Either shuno or amarga but PoT already has amarga so I'm more in favor of shuno.

[@Spider-r6d]

I’ve heard people say that Magy is gonna have some kind of poison, if this is the case then I think you should only be able to get it by eating a particular plant. This way it will be more difficult to acquire, so it will give predators a chance to be able to attack/eat it without getting the effect.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

This idea seems alright. But I hate the idea of poison magy

[@Spider-r6d]

I know, this is just a way to add some more to the mechanic and to add a reason for players to attack Magys other than for sport.

[@freddiewilliams3589]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx How about making Magy a sort of sauropod skunk, spraying a diet derived noxious dung/musk at opponents it can't outrun or physically fend off. The spray could temporarily mess with vision or smell and maybe cause some creatures to vomit. That way unless you can ambush Magy quickly from the front or unless your a predator that is meant to hunt Magy, you have a reason to be cautious and think twice about jumping it.

[@BirdBrainAU]

Great video, Orni 👍 I don't think a weight buff is necessary, like Lvl 5 Dino said. You could give it stuns, reduced damage multiplier on body. Damage on its attacks can always be altered, so that doesn't matter. This would even it out in a fight against carno and let it defend well against smaller creatures. Also letting it be decently paced 38km/h~. with great stamina. It would probably have one bad matchup (vs allo) potentially, which can be changed around if you make specific creatures not live in similar biomes. Also onto the allo and cerato thing. Allo is significantly larger than cerato (over 2x), so if it was to be grabbed, there is no way it wouldn't man handle it. I see it more as it knocking it over, rather than it holding it up. Also, trample will be a universal feature - so magy will have it (like all creatures will)

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah the weight i was contending with,and i didnt truly know how big allo is compared to cera,merci for letting me know:)

[@BirdBrainAU]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx All good! Keep up the work man. These videos are interesting 😁

[@pypeschuym]

About the allo being like over 2× larger. I don't think that's quite right. Yes it is bigger but like c'mon cera is like 7-8m (8m only the really large ones but still) and allo 8-9m. Everything bigger for allo would mean you are going of of the sizes for saurophaganax, which could be just a big allosaurus, but as of now it is still a separate animal. When it gets to weight you'd still have to think about ceratosaurus stocky build. But in all fairness I do think an allo could knock over a ceratosaurus like that if it got up to a certain speed.

[@Forestguardian]

I desperately want Diplodocus in the game. I want to see herds of massive Diplodocus migrating across the map like in walking with dinosaurs

[@theissacrite2143]

I love you

[@Cognac0543]

Oh and I think that concept of Allo taking down the Cerato would be a pin attack on lower weight dino's that comes from a second attack only through a fully charged ambush. So an example is say a Gali cant just run off after one bite or claw slash. So id say that's ok but it should only be available for Sub adult/ adult Allo's again with a FULLY CHARGED AMBUSH, on the plus side of losing stamina quick like a Utah pin it does (small) bleed as allo claws amir.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah i think allo is getting something like that,yeah that'd be interesting,its gonna be cool to see how ambush works,once again sorry for not seeing this sooner :(

[@hpjive]

I do wonder how the match up between magy and quetz will be sense magy used to have to worry about Hatzegopteryx. And presumably they likely didn’t have that even of a match up either sense most depictions just show hatze just devouring and running down magys.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

probs too heavy to pick up,or devs will make it not edible for them.

[@Excusatores]

I feel like magy should be 1650-1700kg. It looks like its a bit heavier than teno and a bit lighter than carno but could still knock things carno-sized animals and maybe a bit heavier

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

thats probably a better size estimate

[@E_E-001]

If they’re going for realistic sizes then not even close to that Magy IRL could barely reach a ton (750 - 1,100kg) But, look how big they made teno despite the irl size.

[@Excusatores]

@@E_E-001 like the isle is going for accurate sizes (looks at cera, teno, spino and so on)

[@E_E-001]

@@Excusatores They said that in the discord while planning for evrima, that theyre going for accurate sizes, but idfk

[@Excusatores]

@@E_E-001 Yeah on some but they increase the sizes of some animals to make them more viable, look at spino, teno and maybe cera for example

[@hanashbinasif2586]

such a cool looking dino, hope it’s viable💀

[@Cognac0543]

id understand 1.5 ton's but I cant fathom 1.7 -1.9 ton's but the defensive bleed or damage makes sense considering the reality of how prehistoric armour works. and a shove attack makes sense as well.

[@otter8399]

1.7 for magy is the sweet spot personally, i like the idea of it having decreased damage and bleed on it's body.

[@gollumgollum8773]

Honestly I’m my opinion it shouldn’t have that much stamina if it is that big and it should rely on it’s fighting strength and hiding to survive

[@SirKolass]

1:43 Megalania is MUCH bigger than that based on the concept arts, it's even bigger than Magy.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

damn😳chonky meg

[@Misto_deVito6009]

YOU SHOULD SEE THE MEGALENIA CONCEPT ITS GREAT!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

It is very very good I like it. Probably the best we’ve had in a while.

[@kittycatcpieqw7772]

As someone who loves sauropods I hope many doses not end up amarga in path of titans and doesn’t look like a crack head

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah i hope magy isnt like amarga in pot

[@HyperBassYT]

Damn you were very close on that fight from the beginning

[@scottthesmartape9151]

rhinos weighing 2 tons can get up to 60 or 50 kmh so magy being that speed isnt that bad

[@Why79-dx4rf]

Cheetahs weighing 100 pounds can run up to 70 mph, wolves(who are about the same weight) can run half that fast and humans( who are a bit bigger) can run half of that. All of this is to say anatomy plays an important role in determining how fast an animal can run.

[@graciliraptor3990]

Since in the future servers will be able to choose playables, even if you don't buff magy, it'll be fine in a low to mid tier only server.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah true,that'd be interesting.

[@Kogasengaha_Hishoshi]

This is MY OPINION here folks, but just MY view on things with Magy. Whether or not its "realistic" or "Mechanic Quality of life" ect. 1. Weight being transferred to 1.7 from 1.1 seems a LIL over kill. Maybe like 1.2-1.4 AT MOST for an animal of its size and considering its a sauropod. Its still a DWARF sauropod, hell even in real life we have actual Smaller of the Smoll Sauropods who have actually been Dwarfisized due to their environment by like... almost 33%-66% just like mammoths have back in the Ice Age. But this is obviously not that and YES its a game, but this is still a legit small sauropod which is even smaller than an allo would be so of course it probs would be lighter even if by like 300 kg. This also goes with the ability to stand on its hind legs, yes it is a small lil thing but its still able to stand on its back legs to make it seem bigger even though most stuff WILL tower over it. Still a sauropod. 2. Armor is kind of a no brainer, especially for this thing. As said in the video its depicted to have some form of armor on its hind back and mid-section. Plus considering that ingame already it does lower dmg anyways it doesn't have to worry about that, Plus again.... Why do that against a Sauropod lol 3. Stamina, Having more stam than an Allo or really any medium predator seems.... Off. For a multitude of reasons even for ingame mech stuff for such an animal. Like sure since it is (Once again) a small sauropod, its still like this heavily built animal for its size and to outstam "bigger" predators of much bipedal lean running just doesn't seem right. Being able to run fast when it needs to? Yes I can see that, outstaming a predator in the open field even from a football lengths away of being watched? No I don't see that depending on its distance of course, Just doesn't make sense. Out running, but not outstamming. Its like an Elephant running away from 12 lions, can it run faster than the lions? Of course, but not for 15 minutes consistently and yes btw, Allo's are the Lions of the Jurassic and Cera's would be the Hyena's. 4. 6:05 I personally don't see a problem with this lol Its not like Cera was a big therapod dinosaur in the same environment as its bigger competitor. As mentioned before, Lions and Hyenas. 5. Having Tenno speed I don't see anything to change with that, just of course not as much stam. 6. Now I can see this thing just being... Absolutely fucked over by Utah's/Omniraptor (goodlord) unlike stego's cuz... Stego's. Dilo's I can see being quite a bitch to fight OF COURSE in the night, dilo's are much bigger than we previously thought back then (lol Jurassic park) I also agree its biggest weakness should be bleed which ALSO relates back to Dilo, UTAH(Omni), Cera AND Allosaurus. All are really good bleeders, carno's you sorta can think that too but its sorta that blunt inbetween but more reliant on force persay. Now if it runs into Alberto, just r.i.p man. R.I.P theres just almost no way unless of course you have good enough distance to run because the stam would be almost the same but gg if u try to good faceVface. It'd have a chance certainly but it'd be soo low against Albert and actually even against a single full allo on circumstance as a whole. Anything else it can just run but absolutely cannot fight cuz obviously you're basically a cow for killer whales on land so gg to you good sir. But thats just my thoughts on the video, long yes. But MY thoughts on the subject.

[@rickyraccoon5754]

Hear me out delete maggy and bring shunosaur

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

hmmm

[@zedrianmiles9806]

I want to make the game less laggy first and improve server stuff but it shouldn't take this long to release 1 dino so I think they're gonna mass release an update just praying that it doesn't break everything

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

they should do smaller quicker updates,and i have a feeling that something may break the game in the future.

[@zedrianmiles9806]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx exactly it reduces the chances of a break and difficult fix and keeps the playerbase updated, interested and happy

[@lane945]

Magy got to about the same size as a pony

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

nah its bigger i believe

[@Medium_soup]

Like how theres just Partly german in there 6:22

[@maiawalters413]

Bruh what the hell bruh

[@Maximloeb.]

are you german or why is was there speed dauer and growth zeit

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

im learning german/can speak a little german

[@_Marrow_.]

worst maggy in my opinion but i like ur other ideas usually!

[@somerandomperson6511]

Magy is trash, it lived on a midget island IRL and got dunked on by an azhdarchid, then it went extinct once a land bridge opened up to its safespace island. Its running reel is slower than allosaurus, it needs to be upsized to even stand a chance against carnotaurus, they should have just replaced it with a better sauropod. There are so many amazing not-colossal and unique sauropods they could have picked from, and yet they went with the first google result for “smallest sauropod”, which is probably how they made their decision. I will kill every magy i see if I am still alive when it is released

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

midget island 😂

[@shaxo5364]

All cool and all but if magy is gonna have a poisoned flesh so why bother risking your life fighting it when u can't even eat it (I mean u can eat it just tho you might die doing so) unless ur a Cera.

[@Lonely_dove]

That’s a massive cop out on the devs part for that

[@shaxo5364]

@@Lonely_dove well whatever it is personally if I play anything else than Cera and see a magy I wouldn't even bother fighting it

[@Lonely_dove]

@@shaxo5364 thats how you know theyve made a bad playable

[@shaxo5364]

@@Lonely_dove I think they did that bc as a sauropod you're naturally not fast and being so small you can die from pretty much anything bigger than you so to make sure that magy doesn't die all the time from big preds they gave it poisoned flesh so u don't have a reason to attack it which again idk if this is the smartest move to do if they want magy in the game so badly but ye idk.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

@@shaxo5364 that is a cop out,shame really,my magy would've thrived in the isle

[@ljsecret1543]

I- I just want to hurt magy

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

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