My Secret To Getting a Cinematic Image In Camera

[@mattih]

What filters do you use if any??? I bet a few people are gonna be buying Black Satins 😂

[@tomjugginsuk]

I don't use any at the moment, never too sure what one I need, or if I need one!

[@RassmusRoengen]

Mckinnons

[@josefsjoblom]

Tiffen black mist Pro 1/8 is my favourite for music videos!

[@PaulHeimlund]

I’m using a variable ND filter with a built in 1/4 pro mist on my Sirui anamorphic lenses. A bit strong bloom, but feels quite organic. I was also going for a more The Batman look. Tired of over sharpened video looks as well. Btw don’t tell anyone I use this on a GH6😜

[@80white]

I really love the Hollywood Black Magic 1/8. I think it's also more subtle than a Black Promist. If I want an even stronger Vintage Look I add Halation And Glow in Davinci Resolve:)

[@SamSB250]

theres a very sharp white noise that hurts my ears around the 5 min mark. i heared it twice now. (every time when you do the no filter/with filter)

[@KyleFilms]

I thought I the only can hear it...

[@jonsf]

It happens every time the transition into the split screen comparison comes up

[@burgunbeerd]

it made me turn off the video.

[@robertolsen6797]

@@burgunbeerd same

[@henry-visuals9186]

its really annoying way too sharp

[@EmceeGraffiti]

Great video. The Black Satin is one of my favorite filters. Something got messed up in your edit. I think a swoosh sound effect wasn’t properly linked or was corrupted. Every time the comparison images pop in there is an awful glitchy white noise sound. Or maybe using a MOGRT and didn’t disable the audio? Either way. Solid video.

[@worldbynath.]

I was like is that my computer 😳

[@BellHarrington]

What Strength Black Satin do you use?

[@matthillproductions]

@@worldbynath. I thought the same thing. Like "aw crap, gonna have to drop some more $$ on fixing this noise."

[@Shanefaye]

I heard this too... another Premiere Pro bug? 😅

[@EmceeGraffiti]

@@BellHarrington I have the 1/8 now, but I had the 1/2 for a while. Traded it for a Pro Mist 1/4. The 1/2 was a little much for me. I do want to try out the 1/4 Black Satin. Just a little more oomph.

[@valuxmedia9204]

In case anyone wanted to know (like I did) Matti uses the Black Satin 1/2 you can see it for about a single frame at 7:01 when he's turning the step-up rings.

[@moritzpeterfoerster]

Haha thank you! Was wondering the exact same thing.

[@nathangonzales8351]

Yessss. Thank you!

[@editsbydaan6048]

Live saver!

[@AuthenTech]

There's a bad sound glitch whenever those side-by-sides slide in... :/

[@sloop24]

Yes it was very bad I could not finish the video hopefully he fixes it

[@andyjamesryan]

it was quite annoying, i was wondering was it deliberate

[@soundscape26]

@@andyjamesryan It _has_ to be a glitch

[@joshuadansby]

Great content! Love watching stuff like this! There is something weird happening with the whooshes during the side by sides that sound like a white noise glitch.

[@stevenkralovec]

Yeah and it’s too loud, it wasn’t pleasant for my ears

[@israelbracha6632]

Yes it was annoying

[@jakefelzien]

Probably need to try DaVinci

[@windycity92]

oh man i totally thought it was my speakers or something lol

[@alexradsby]

Yes, I thought my headphones were dying or something. Wasn't awesome 😅

[@jimmystewartuk]

Hey Matti, I’m not sure if this is mentioned already but around 5:16 there seems to be an audio noise issue, that sounded like an interference while recording. Several more interferences soon after this point. Hopefully just an one off exporting issue.

[@KennyomarGarcia]

Annoying as hell lol

[@mossgatherer_]

I LOVE Tiffen filters. Old school film photographer since back in the day and I'd use coloured filters for black and white photography. Tiffen make gorgeous filters!

[@wesjonesco]

Curious what the strength of the Black Satin filters are? In the comparisons, there's a strength rating for the Pro-Mist filters but not for the Black Satins. Are they the same, such as 6:06 shows Pro-Mist 1/2 and Black Satin, is the Black Satin also 1/2 strength?

[@anthonycammarata444]

Curious about this as well. Can’t seem to find strength reviews

[@SamMcGhee]

Love this vibe. Any time you wanna come hang in Montana and play with an Alexa Mini LF, you’re welcome. Take that Alexa vibe to the next level.

[@TwoOneSe7en]

Matti- what level of Black Satin are you typically running?

[@therawwstories10]

Hey Matti, thanks for the video, what’s the version of the Black Satin you use ? 1/8, 1/4?

[@hamburgler_a]

Did anyone find out?

[@Imageyenation]

Ok, whoever was editing that, thanks for putting the glitch noise in when you were trying to show the difference in the filters. When my eyes strayed, and that glitch noise sounded, it brought my attention right back to the screen! Kudos!

[@mikolajjordan]

Which strength of black satin do you use?

[@sherifmusic]

Eco Flow is amazing. Took the same model an solar panels to a 5 day camping music festival and it was a game changer!

[@antystatyczny3882]

Perfect speed of speech to understand everything. I like your movie

[@joyoffilming9500]

Hi Matti, thanks for sharing you insights on making footage look more organic with filters on your lens. While this might be a quick solution for some, I feel this is not the ideal way because it tries to 'emulate' an effect that takes place in the different emulsion layers of traditional film material - and not in front of the camera. As an alternative to using some of those filters, I would recommend the following: A) Never overexpose beyond your sensor's dynamic headroom B) For nicer highlight rolloff in general, use the Arri Alexa color space in your editing timeline - ist gorgeous what the difference is - at least in DR C) For this little glow around light sources, use the effect halation or build your own one (what I did)

[@LiamStevens]

Hey Matti, what grade of Black Satin do you use?

[@Shanefaye]

Another great video Matti! As a solopreneur DP/cinematographer here in San Diego CA, one of the ways I get motivated and stay inspired is by watching your channel! Thanks for always keeping it positive and inspiring! :)

[@emilyginley4645]

I’ve been using filters for years, just learned from your video you can use step up rings. Not sure how I didn’t realize that before but thanks!!

[@BelindaFarage]

If you’re not learning you’re not growing they say. Lol - I always feel like I’m a year behind all the time.

[@GRUBB-MUDD]

hey Matt is it too late to get epidemic sound trial for 6 months if I buy a whole year? I'm ready to find a program, the ncs app has ran its course

[@redstudiostudio6380]

Thank you very much the whole video, inspiring! But which black satin do you use 1/8 or 1/4 or more?

[@BlueGorillaVideo]

He's uses a 1/2 you can see at 7:01

[@redstudiostudio6380]

I bought the Black Stein 1, that's what was in the link It feels too soft to me and I haven't been able to use it the way I like yet. I currently prefer the A7-4 without a filter if you have an idea for me I would love to hear it

[@iRorik]

I love the H&F black Mist 1/4 look.

[@kylehessling2679]

Crazy you posted this today, I was literally taking apart my Rokinon 35mm f1.4 yesterday to modify elements for more character!

[@ChesterBunglay]

Eeeey just in time! I needed to catch up with all these vertical contents.

[@MICHALISFILMS]

Thank you Matti for the video!

[@FilipGrony]

I cannot agree more. I love the helios lens but it would be nice to have those characteristics on modern lenses.

[@CharlesLambert137]

Great video! So many are about photoshopping and digitally modifying imagery. It's great to hear a case being made to do the work in camera.

[@mcmaschio]

This is the very first problem i faced as a content creator …. and it was so damnn frustrating 🥴 Wish i had this video back then 🔥💯

[@DenisAlexsander]

Hey Matti! Loved your video and te information you privided. I've been a fan for a while now haha. I've come to tell that the glitch effect in the example parts are a bit too hight for someone using headphones. I really spikes when you hear it. But apart from that the video was perfect!

[@KatrinLoebel]

Which density did you chose for your black satin? Thank you for your video!!

[@BryanElliott_]

Love watching your vids Matti , I laugh every time with you!

[@MarioSoMedia]

Love the look on the black pro mist 1/8. The satin one is pretty neat too!

[@DylanBischoff]

Been waiting for this one

[@steve_arcenio]

Which Black Satin did you use 1/8 or 1/4 which ND strength?

[@GlobeHackers]

do we need to commit to a look in camera when we can do it in davinci resolve? if you like to baseline look filters are great.

[@Motivational_Flavio]

Getting flashback to my eye check up appointment with that weird noise in transitions

[@linnyunt]

Dang, shooting with two Insta 360s while on the surfboard to get multiple angles! 👏

[@KofiYeboah]

I’m a fan of the glimmer glass !

[@TheNevoguy]

As much as it's a good idea to have lenses with a filmic vibe to them, I feel like it's much better to stick with using the filters so that you can only use the effect when you really need it.

[@LokeyTavs]

Great vid, Matti - I like MOMENT's CineBloom Diffusion Filters to bring down that digital feel from my SONY A7S3.

[@theodorewestbrook268]

My Tiffen 1/8 black pro mist JUST came in this morning so I was really happy to see this video 😂

[@theodorewestbrook268]

I definitely didn’t want to go above 1/8 because of how strong these are tho 😂

[@christianbeermann9006]

I love my EcoFlow, too. As a drohnen pilot with the Mavic 3 Cine Combo and the included three batteries, it's so amazing to power two of them up while flying the third one. Just amazing! By the way: Thank you for your time and the video to help us creating better content. ;-)

[@ranjinirajainfilm]

Really liking the new retro ish edits 😊

[@m.i.andersen8167]

There are hundreds of lenses with character that are being used, and have been used for many years, just like Black Mist filters. Check out what professional photographers use. A good and cheap place to start is Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm still lenses from the 1950s and 60s, and you save time by checking the apature and focus while you shoting, instead of spending time afterwards checking if the autofocus hit the right focus.

[@IhorPushkar]

I was always wondering how you achieved that look. Thanks for the tip !

[@Daniel.K.Crandall]

@Matti - what are your thoughts on the Black Satin 1 vs the 2, or 3?

[@JeremyHalterman]

Gosh dangit, the Black Satin was _my_ secret! Thanks for spilling the beans 🙃 For real though, it's everything I like about the BPM with virtually none of the drawbacks-the perfect balance of increased halation and reduced contrast and resolution. Another nifty aspect is that the halation doesn't change much between filter strengths, so it's easier to match the contrast and resolution of different lenses without affecting the bloom. So good!

[@Northpaal]

It does seem like the perfect blend! Are you using 1/2 as well? I'm so scared to buy one before i know that 1/2 ain't too strong of an effect. I've seen a couple reviews and it seems like everyone is comparing the 1/2 to cinebloom 10% and BPM 1/8? Seems strange since you would think those are at waaay different levels of intensity?

[@jarrodbarker]

@@Northpaal I would honestly say the Black Satin is too subtle, and Matti is incorrectly suggesting to use the same strength on multiple focal lengths, which will vary the effect. As others have stated in the comments, glimmerglass is the perfect middle ground between black pro mist and black satin.

[@GRUBB-MUDD]

great video, not there yet but def interesting

[@ExtremeExploring]

Kyle on the jetski is so cute 😂

[@thetenthhouse]

Thanks for this! 🌸😊💜

[@chico3517]

what are these audio cracks every few seconds? 5:14 and 5:22 for example. there's a ton of focus hunting in the talking head scene also..

[@adamc3616]

Hey mate, which strength do you use for the Black Satin? Seems there is a variety

[@film_advance]

Matti what's happening with the sound at 4:44? It killed my eardrums. Still great content tho

[@film_advance]

Maybe its my Mac?

[@jkingwhistler]

@@film_advance Happens on my PC too.

[@stevenkralovec]

I think it’s happening for everyone

[@Ansonandco]

You should check out Tokina lenses. I use their vista cine lenses and they have much more pleasing highlight roll off

[@saeedahmed_40]

Blue Thunder sounds badass ngl

[@barrongaillard9623]

Try the Rokinon AF 45mm 1.8. Closest "modern" lens with a little bit of character that I have run across. The Rokinon 24mm 1.8 and the 75mm 1.8 also have a bit of character as well.

[@Photostoodpro]

thanks for the tips matti!

[@Slipsch]

@Matti, what's the strength of black satin do you use?

[@bprdvlog567]

Love from Assam India

[@KarlMarkusAntson]

Hey Matti! Personally I would recommend dividing vlogs and tutorials, as I don’t care much for tutorials - title and thumbnail didn’t make me click, but I would have cared for watching a chill vlog - what it avtually started out as. This is just my 2 cents as a viewer. For me vlogtorials have never made much sense as video is never straight to the topic. Otherwise i hope you’re great and that you appreciate this input ✌️

[@elliotalderson2479]

I use 4x5.65 filters in a matte box a little more expensive but covers standard cinema glass

[@AnthonyHVids]

Hi Matti, great video, what focal length and aperture did you use for your talking head shot in this video?

[@jarrodbarker]

Sooo, the issue with people recommending step-up filters, from Tiffen themselves, each focal length will present the strength of the filter differently, which is why they have so many different strengths. For instance, I used Black Glimmerglass for focal lengths 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, and 135 mm, at strengths 1, 1/2, 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8, respectively, and have found an even spread of the effect from 24-135. Also, I feel Black Pro Mist is too strong but Satin/Black Glimmerglass is not strong enough to be worth it, I more recommend a lower strength OG Glimmerglass for the best of both worlds.

[@leadinglightfilms]

which strength do you recommend? I just tested GG1, GG3 and Schneider Hollywood black magic on many focal lengths and dont really see the diffusion changing. Its kinda obvious form filter to filter but not focal length. Maybe its the F stops that change the look

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Cool! Thank you for sharing it.✌️

[@Liljoozy]

Voightlander is those 8:24 lenses that you are talking about

[@sumanthms4140]

The screeching sound effect is irritating, please don't use it. 🙏

[@NguyenJulian]

What strength of the Satin filter do you use?

[@DLivingston]

I shoot everything video with a promist 1/4. So good!

[@JordanHandwerker]

You should try shooting on a Panasonic Eva-1, that camera shoots soft it’s really flattering

[@JaymesMedia]

I noticed people want the sharpest lenses but then want to emulate film.

[@JonAdamsMinistries]

Ive been wondering this for about a year, thanks for the answer!

[@aahritya_tv]

Black Satan filter is definately what I want!

[@SzymonZylinski]

What’s with the sound in some transitions? 5:14

[@DJILLEE]

I just ordered the Hollywood Black Magic 1/4 filter. I had a black pro mist ruin a shoot for me by being too heavy handed so I've been a bit turned off on them recently. Just a bit too much bloom.

[@CodyScott]

I don’t even have to watch this video to know that you’re gonna say something about a promist filter. 😂😂

[@Canis_Fatalis]

This whole video just inspires me to stick with my 1080p Nikon.

[@MaoRamirez]

Sometimes I stack the Black Satin 1 with the Black Pro Mist 1/4. It gives interesting results.

[@Japhb]

Kai stop growing so fast!

[@AlexPresa]

Thanks for sharing your secrets 🙈🙏

[@tekguyphoto]

I find with step-up rings you can get vignetting if you have too many rings and also can't use any native lens hoods - so yeah rings or no rings - well its lens dependent or even if i'm shooting video vs photo. I know you can get metal hoods on the final ring or filter. I bought expensive 82mm filters and can't use the lens hoods on my RF 24-105L and my RF 70-200L F4 lenses since its 77mm.

[@andrewharris6347]

Now that electric surf board is the way to go!

[@userbogr]

Thanks

[@northparkfilms3045]

What strength did you use?

[@darthjump]

It´s mid 22´ and this is basically the "Hey i use a pro mist filter"-video everyone did two years ago. But with an explanation why which is nice to have.

[@knotp37]

Can I use Halation effect in Davinci Resolve instead?

[@JoeVazquezProductorMusical]

Hey Matti I use the black pro mist 1/8 and Peter McKinnon ND 2-5 for music videos, but the Satin blown my mind 🧠 🤯. Thank you to made the comparison. 🍻 👏

[@matthiasverfaille7451]

Is it also good for photography?

[@anuraganasane308]

I want Matti and Chris Hau's surfing competition.

[@alilevlog]

Thnx, top as always 👏

[@footballfreaks16]

Great tips bro

[@allenwc]

Love your product placement. So well done and informative. If all product placements were like that, well. Have you tried to see if the green floater is still there with the filter as close to the lens as possible? (try shining a very bright flashlight through a triple glazed window at night). I agree about lens character. I've had a few over the years that just had that special sparkle.

[@ilovemyride1988]

which Black Satin do you use? There are 3 Versions? Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 1 Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 2 Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 3 which one? haha cant find a difference

[@jkingwhistler]

Nice video, not sure what's going on with the loud white noise sounds around 5min in though.

[@Potatisem]

Pretty sure it's the fx for the frames coming in but it murdered my ears using headphones.

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Try Voigtlander VM lenses, they have much more of an interesting look

[@jpmcaptureone]

Where do I find thta E Surfboard bro!

[@A1Bokeh]

I def had a phase with teh vintage canon fds adn they def have a look for sure , also part of why I went with panasonic lenses over sigmas cuz everyone is rocking sigma and the panasonics have a slight of vintage and modern look

[@NovaJB]

4:44 scared the crap out of me lol Great video tho

[@RafalGendarz]

Black pro mist 1/8 to me is so subtle that sometimes I can’t say the difference

[@RobRoskey]

You should try Davinci Resolve! 10x less crashes than adobe, and the fastest render time ever! Plus best color grading/correcting in the game! Bit of a learning curve for fx going from layers to nodes but easy to learn and 1000's of tutorials lol. Such a step up in the software realm and renders, fx, color correcting/grading, audio, etc editing is so much better! And it's free!! *