My Secret To Getting a Cinematic Image In Camera

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Matti Haapoja

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@mattih
@mattih 2 жыл бұрын
What filters do you use if any??? I bet a few people are gonna be buying Black Satins 😂
@tomjugginsuk
@tomjugginsuk 2 жыл бұрын
I don't use any at the moment, never too sure what one I need, or if I need one!
@RassmusRoengen
@RassmusRoengen 2 жыл бұрын
Mckinnons
@josefsjoblom
@josefsjoblom 2 жыл бұрын
Tiffen black mist Pro 1/8 is my favourite for music videos!
@PaulHeimlund
@PaulHeimlund 2 жыл бұрын
I’m using a variable ND filter with a built in 1/4 pro mist on my Sirui anamorphic lenses. A bit strong bloom, but feels quite organic. I was also going for a more The Batman look. Tired of over sharpened video looks as well. Btw don’t tell anyone I use this on a GH6😜
@80white
@80white 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the Hollywood Black Magic 1/8. I think it's also more subtle than a Black Promist. If I want an even stronger Vintage Look I add Halation And Glow in Davinci Resolve:)
@SamSB250
@SamSB250 2 жыл бұрын
theres a very sharp white noise that hurts my ears around the 5 min mark. i heared it twice now. (every time when you do the no filter/with filter)
@KyleFilms
@KyleFilms 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I the only can hear it...
@jonsf
@jonsf 2 жыл бұрын
It happens every time the transition into the split screen comparison comes up
@burgunbeerd
@burgunbeerd 2 жыл бұрын
it made me turn off the video.
@robertolsen6797
@robertolsen6797 2 жыл бұрын
@@burgunbeerd same
@henry-visuals9186
@henry-visuals9186 2 жыл бұрын
its really annoying way too sharp
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 2 жыл бұрын
There's a bad sound glitch whenever those side-by-sides slide in... :/
@sloop24
@sloop24 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was very bad I could not finish the video hopefully he fixes it
@andyjamesryan
@andyjamesryan 2 жыл бұрын
it was quite annoying, i was wondering was it deliberate
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyjamesryan It _has_ to be a glitch
@EmceeGraffiti
@EmceeGraffiti 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The Black Satin is one of my favorite filters. Something got messed up in your edit. I think a swoosh sound effect wasn’t properly linked or was corrupted. Every time the comparison images pop in there is an awful glitchy white noise sound. Or maybe using a MOGRT and didn’t disable the audio? Either way. Solid video.
@worldbynath.
@worldbynath. 2 жыл бұрын
I was like is that my computer 😳
@BellHarrington
@BellHarrington 2 жыл бұрын
What Strength Black Satin do you use?
@matthillproductions
@matthillproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldbynath. I thought the same thing. Like "aw crap, gonna have to drop some more $$ on fixing this noise."
@Shanefaye
@Shanefaye 2 жыл бұрын
I heard this too... another Premiere Pro bug? 😅
@EmceeGraffiti
@EmceeGraffiti 2 жыл бұрын
@@BellHarrington I have the 1/8 now, but I had the 1/2 for a while. Traded it for a Pro Mist 1/4. The 1/2 was a little much for me. I do want to try out the 1/4 Black Satin. Just a little more oomph.
@valuxmedia9204
@valuxmedia9204 Жыл бұрын
In case anyone wanted to know (like I did) Matti uses the Black Satin 1/2 you can see it for about a single frame at 7:01 when he's turning the step-up rings.
@moritzpeterfoerster
@moritzpeterfoerster 11 ай бұрын
Haha thank you! Was wondering the exact same thing.
@nathangonzales8351
@nathangonzales8351 9 ай бұрын
Yessss. Thank you!
@editsbydaan6048
@editsbydaan6048 9 ай бұрын
Live saver!
@joshuadansby
@joshuadansby 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Love watching stuff like this! There is something weird happening with the whooshes during the side by sides that sound like a white noise glitch.
@stevenkralovec
@stevenkralovec 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it’s too loud, it wasn’t pleasant for my ears
@israelbracha6632
@israelbracha6632 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was annoying
@jakefelzien
@jakefelzien 2 жыл бұрын
Probably need to try DaVinci
@windycity92
@windycity92 2 жыл бұрын
oh man i totally thought it was my speakers or something lol
@alexradsby
@alexradsby 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought my headphones were dying or something. Wasn't awesome 😅
@mossgatherer_
@mossgatherer_ 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Tiffen filters. Old school film photographer since back in the day and I'd use coloured filters for black and white photography. Tiffen make gorgeous filters!
@jimmystewartuk
@jimmystewartuk 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti, I’m not sure if this is mentioned already but around 5:16 there seems to be an audio noise issue, that sounded like an interference while recording. Several more interferences soon after this point. Hopefully just an one off exporting issue.
@KennyomarGarcia
@KennyomarGarcia Жыл бұрын
Annoying as hell lol
@TwoOneSe7en
@TwoOneSe7en 2 жыл бұрын
Matti- what level of Black Satin are you typically running?
@therawwstories10
@therawwstories10 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti, thanks for the video, what’s the version of the Black Satin you use ? 1/8, 1/4?
@hamburgler_a
@hamburgler_a 7 ай бұрын
Did anyone find out?
@GRUBB-MUDD
@GRUBB-MUDD 2 жыл бұрын
hey Matt is it too late to get epidemic sound trial for 6 months if I buy a whole year? I'm ready to find a program, the ncs app has ran its course
@LiamStevens
@LiamStevens 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti, what grade of Black Satin do you use?
@wesjonesco
@wesjonesco 2 жыл бұрын
Curious what the strength of the Black Satin filters are? In the comparisons, there's a strength rating for the Pro-Mist filters but not for the Black Satins. Are they the same, such as 6:06 shows Pro-Mist 1/2 and Black Satin, is the Black Satin also 1/2 strength?
@anthonycammarata444
@anthonycammarata444 Жыл бұрын
Curious about this as well. Can’t seem to find strength reviews
@mikolajjordan
@mikolajjordan 2 жыл бұрын
Which strength of black satin do you use?
@GlobeHackers
@GlobeHackers 2 ай бұрын
do we need to commit to a look in camera when we can do it in davinci resolve? if you like to baseline look filters are great.
@redstudiostudio6380
@redstudiostudio6380 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much the whole video, inspiring! But which black satin do you use 1/8 or 1/4 or more?
@BlueGorillaVideo
@BlueGorillaVideo Жыл бұрын
He's uses a 1/2 you can see at 7:01
@redstudiostudio6380
@redstudiostudio6380 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Black Stein 1, that's what was in the link It feels too soft to me and I haven't been able to use it the way I like yet. I currently prefer the A7-4 without a filter if you have an idea for me I would love to hear it
@emilyginley4645
@emilyginley4645 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using filters for years, just learned from your video you can use step up rings. Not sure how I didn’t realize that before but thanks!!
@BelindaFarage
@BelindaFarage 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re not learning you’re not growing they say. Lol - I always feel like I’m a year behind all the time.
@sherifmusic
@sherifmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Eco Flow is amazing. Took the same model an solar panels to a 5 day camping music festival and it was a game changer!
@antystatyczny3882
@antystatyczny3882 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect speed of speech to understand everything. I like your movie
@mcmaschio
@mcmaschio 2 жыл бұрын
This is the very first problem i faced as a content creator …. and it was so damnn frustrating 🥴 Wish i had this video back then 🔥💯
@joyoffilming9500
@joyoffilming9500 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matti, thanks for sharing you insights on making footage look more organic with filters on your lens. While this might be a quick solution for some, I feel this is not the ideal way because it tries to 'emulate' an effect that takes place in the different emulsion layers of traditional film material - and not in front of the camera. As an alternative to using some of those filters, I would recommend the following: A) Never overexpose beyond your sensor's dynamic headroom B) For nicer highlight rolloff in general, use the Arri Alexa color space in your editing timeline - ist gorgeous what the difference is - at least in DR C) For this little glow around light sources, use the effect halation or build your own one (what I did)
@directed_by_steve
@directed_by_steve Жыл бұрын
Which Black Satin did you use 1/8 or 1/4 which ND strength?
@KatrinLoebel
@KatrinLoebel Жыл бұрын
Which density did you chose for your black satin? Thank you for your video!!
@MICHALISFILMS
@MICHALISFILMS 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matti for the video!
@iRorik
@iRorik Жыл бұрын
I love the H&F black Mist 1/4 look.
@ChesterBunglay
@ChesterBunglay 2 жыл бұрын
Eeeey just in time! I needed to catch up with all these vertical contents.
@SamMcGhee
@SamMcGhee 2 жыл бұрын
Love this vibe. Any time you wanna come hang in Montana and play with an Alexa Mini LF, you’re welcome. Take that Alexa vibe to the next level.
@sumanthms4140
@sumanthms4140 2 жыл бұрын
The screeching sound effect is irritating, please don't use it. 🙏
@CharlesLambert137
@CharlesLambert137 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! So many are about photoshopping and digitally modifying imagery. It's great to hear a case being made to do the work in camera.
@kylehessling2679
@kylehessling2679 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy you posted this today, I was literally taking apart my Rokinon 35mm f1.4 yesterday to modify elements for more character!
@MarioSoMedia
@MarioSoMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Love the look on the black pro mist 1/8. The satin one is pretty neat too!
@Shanefaye
@Shanefaye 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Matti! As a solopreneur DP/cinematographer here in San Diego CA, one of the ways I get motivated and stay inspired is by watching your channel! Thanks for always keeping it positive and inspiring! :)
@barrongaillard9623
@barrongaillard9623 2 жыл бұрын
Try the Rokinon AF 45mm 1.8. Closest "modern" lens with a little bit of character that I have run across. The Rokinon 24mm 1.8 and the 75mm 1.8 also have a bit of character as well.
@DylanBischoff
@DylanBischoff 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one
@KasaTavs
@KasaTavs 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Matti - I like MOMENT's CineBloom Diffusion Filters to bring down that digital feel from my SONY A7S3.
@BryanElliott_
@BryanElliott_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching your vids Matti , I laugh every time with you!
@Ansonandco
@Ansonandco 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out Tokina lenses. I use their vista cine lenses and they have much more pleasing highlight roll off
@TheNevoguy
@TheNevoguy 2 жыл бұрын
As much as it's a good idea to have lenses with a filmic vibe to them, I feel like it's much better to stick with using the filters so that you can only use the effect when you really need it.
@IhorPushkar
@IhorPushkar 2 жыл бұрын
I was always wondering how you achieved that look. Thanks for the tip !
@DenisAlexsander
@DenisAlexsander 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti! Loved your video and te information you privided. I've been a fan for a while now haha. I've come to tell that the glitch effect in the example parts are a bit too hight for someone using headphones. I really spikes when you hear it. But apart from that the video was perfect!
@mikes978
@mikes978 2 жыл бұрын
What’s with the sharp static noise throughout the video during the side by side views?? I keep thinking my headphones are malfunctioning
@FilipGrony
@FilipGrony 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot agree more. I love the helios lens but it would be nice to have those characteristics on modern lenses.
@KarlMarkusAntson
@KarlMarkusAntson 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti! Personally I would recommend dividing vlogs and tutorials, as I don’t care much for tutorials - title and thumbnail didn’t make me click, but I would have cared for watching a chill vlog - what it avtually started out as. This is just my 2 cents as a viewer. For me vlogtorials have never made much sense as video is never straight to the topic. Otherwise i hope you’re great and that you appreciate this input ✌️
@DJILLEE
@DJILLEE 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Hollywood Black Magic 1/4 filter. I had a black pro mist ruin a shoot for me by being too heavy handed so I've been a bit turned off on them recently. Just a bit too much bloom.
@Daniel.K.Crandall
@Daniel.K.Crandall Жыл бұрын
@Matti - what are your thoughts on the Black Satin 1 vs the 2, or 3?
@matthiasverfaille7451
@matthiasverfaille7451 2 жыл бұрын
Is it also good for photography?
@KofiYeboah
@KofiYeboah 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of the glimmer glass !
@ranjinirajainfilm
@ranjinirajainfilm 2 жыл бұрын
Really liking the new retro ish edits 😊
@chico3517
@chico3517 2 жыл бұрын
what are these audio cracks every few seconds? 5:14 and 5:22 for example. there's a ton of focus hunting in the talking head scene also..
@Slipsch
@Slipsch Жыл бұрын
@Matti, what's the strength of black satin do you use?
@ilovemyride1988
@ilovemyride1988 2 жыл бұрын
which Black Satin do you use? There are 3 Versions? Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 1 Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 2 Tiffen Schwarzer Satin-Filter, 3 which one? haha cant find a difference
@thetenthhouse
@thetenthhouse Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! 🌸😊💜
@elliotalderson2479
@elliotalderson2479 10 ай бұрын
I use 4x5.65 filters in a matte box a little more expensive but covers standard cinema glass
@BOTG_Adventures
@BOTG_Adventures 9 ай бұрын
black satin 12 or 3?
@adamc3616
@adamc3616 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, which strength do you use for the Black Satin? Seems there is a variety
@OaklynMediaLLC
@OaklynMediaLLC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still paranoid to take my Insta 360 one x2 into water without a housing. Do you think as long as the battery seats right it is okay? Obviously no deep dives.
@AnthonyHVids
@AnthonyHVids 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matti, great video, what focal length and aperture did you use for your talking head shot in this video?
@JeremyHalterman
@JeremyHalterman 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh dangit, the Black Satin was _my_ secret! Thanks for spilling the beans 🙃 For real though, it's everything I like about the BPM with virtually none of the drawbacks-the perfect balance of increased halation and reduced contrast and resolution. Another nifty aspect is that the halation doesn't change much between filter strengths, so it's easier to match the contrast and resolution of different lenses without affecting the bloom. So good!
@Northpaal
@Northpaal Жыл бұрын
It does seem like the perfect blend! Are you using 1/2 as well? I'm so scared to buy one before i know that 1/2 ain't too strong of an effect. I've seen a couple reviews and it seems like everyone is comparing the 1/2 to cinebloom 10% and BPM 1/8? Seems strange since you would think those are at waaay different levels of intensity?
@jarrodbarker
@jarrodbarker Жыл бұрын
@@Northpaal I would honestly say the Black Satin is too subtle, and Matti is incorrectly suggesting to use the same strength on multiple focal lengths, which will vary the effect. As others have stated in the comments, glimmerglass is the perfect middle ground between black pro mist and black satin.
@m.i.andersen8167
@m.i.andersen8167 2 жыл бұрын
There are hundreds of lenses with character that are being used, and have been used for many years, just like Black Mist filters. Check out what professional photographers use. A good and cheap place to start is Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm still lenses from the 1950s and 60s, and you save time by checking the apature and focus while you shoting, instead of spending time afterwards checking if the autofocus hit the right focus.
@northparkfilms3045
@northparkfilms3045 Жыл бұрын
What strength did you use?
@jarrodbarker
@jarrodbarker Жыл бұрын
Sooo, the issue with people recommending step-up filters, from Tiffen themselves, each focal length will present the strength of the filter differently, which is why they have so many different strengths. For instance, I used Black Glimmerglass for focal lengths 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, and 135 mm, at strengths 1, 1/2, 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8, respectively, and have found an even spread of the effect from 24-135. Also, I feel Black Pro Mist is too strong but Satin/Black Glimmerglass is not strong enough to be worth it, I more recommend a lower strength OG Glimmerglass for the best of both worlds.
@leadinglightfilms
@leadinglightfilms 11 ай бұрын
which strength do you recommend? I just tested GG1, GG3 and Schneider Hollywood black magic on many focal lengths and dont really see the diffusion changing. Its kinda obvious form filter to filter but not focal length. Maybe its the F stops that change the look
@Photostoodpro
@Photostoodpro 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips matti!
@DLivingston
@DLivingston 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot everything video with a promist 1/4. So good!
@theodorewestbrook268
@theodorewestbrook268 2 жыл бұрын
My Tiffen 1/8 black pro mist JUST came in this morning so I was really happy to see this video 😂
@theodorewestbrook268
@theodorewestbrook268 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely didn’t want to go above 1/8 because of how strong these are tho 😂
@NguyenJulian
@NguyenJulian Жыл бұрын
What strength of the Satin filter do you use?
@linnyunt
@linnyunt 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, shooting with two Insta 360s while on the surfboard to get multiple angles! 👏
@JonAdamsMinistries
@JonAdamsMinistries 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been wondering this for about a year, thanks for the answer!
@knotp37
@knotp37 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use Halation effect in Davinci Resolve instead?
@REVIEWSONTHERUN
@REVIEWSONTHERUN 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Thank you for sharing it.✌️
@MaoRamirez
@MaoRamirez 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I stack the Black Satin 1 with the Black Pro Mist 1/4. It gives interesting results.
@JordanHandwerker
@JordanHandwerker 2 жыл бұрын
You should try shooting on a Panasonic Eva-1, that camera shoots soft it’s really flattering
@GRUBB-MUDD
@GRUBB-MUDD 2 жыл бұрын
great video, not there yet but def interesting
@christianbeermann9006
@christianbeermann9006 2 жыл бұрын
I love my EcoFlow, too. As a drohnen pilot with the Mavic 3 Cine Combo and the included three batteries, it's so amazing to power two of them up while flying the third one. Just amazing! By the way: Thank you for your time and the video to help us creating better content. ;-)
@peterishere99
@peterishere99 2 жыл бұрын
Out of subject: is this "glitch" sound is just on my phone?! Or it's new cinematic transition sound😅
@JoeVazquezProductorMusical
@JoeVazquezProductorMusical 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti I use the black pro mist 1/8 and Peter McKinnon ND 2-5 for music videos, but the Satin blown my mind 🧠 🤯. Thank you to made the comparison. 🍻 👏
@saeedahmed_40
@saeedahmed_40 2 жыл бұрын
Blue Thunder sounds badass ngl
@JaymesMedia
@JaymesMedia 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed people want the sharpest lenses but then want to emulate film.
@tekguyphoto
@tekguyphoto 2 жыл бұрын
I find with step-up rings you can get vignetting if you have too many rings and also can't use any native lens hoods - so yeah rings or no rings - well its lens dependent or even if i'm shooting video vs photo. I know you can get metal hoods on the final ring or filter. I bought expensive 82mm filters and can't use the lens hoods on my RF 24-105L and my RF 70-200L F4 lenses since its 77mm.
@userbogr
@userbogr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bprdvlog567
@bprdvlog567 2 жыл бұрын
Love from Assam India
@film_advance
@film_advance 2 жыл бұрын
Matti what's happening with the sound at 4:44? It killed my eardrums. Still great content tho
@film_advance
@film_advance 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe its my Mac?
@jkingwhistler
@jkingwhistler 2 жыл бұрын
@@film_advance Happens on my PC too.
@stevenkralovec
@stevenkralovec 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s happening for everyone
@Imageyenation
@Imageyenation 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, whoever was editing that, thanks for putting the glitch noise in when you were trying to show the difference in the filters. When my eyes strayed, and that glitch noise sounded, it brought my attention right back to the screen! Kudos!
@jkingwhistler
@jkingwhistler 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, not sure what's going on with the loud white noise sounds around 5min in though.
@Potatisem
@Potatisem 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's the fx for the frames coming in but it murdered my ears using headphones.
@A1Bokeh
@A1Bokeh 2 жыл бұрын
I def had a phase with teh vintage canon fds adn they def have a look for sure , also part of why I went with panasonic lenses over sigmas cuz everyone is rocking sigma and the panasonics have a slight of vintage and modern look
@jpmcaptureone
@jpmcaptureone 2 жыл бұрын
Where do I find thta E Surfboard bro!
@cinematicsenses
@cinematicsenses 9 ай бұрын
Does anyone have a solution on how to secure a lens with a filter so that you don't have to remove the filter and can put the cover on?
@volkankvncsy385
@volkankvncsy385 Жыл бұрын
But which black satin;)? 1 or 1/2 or 1/8:):)??
@BlueGorillaVideo
@BlueGorillaVideo Жыл бұрын
He's uses a 1/2 you can see at 7:01
@ExtremeExploring
@ExtremeExploring 2 жыл бұрын
Kyle on the jetski is so cute 😂
@SzymonZylinski
@SzymonZylinski 2 жыл бұрын
What’s with the sound in some transitions? 5:14
@MoonDoggie82
@MoonDoggie82 2 жыл бұрын
What's up with the audio during cuts to b-roll
@Johnwicker1903
@Johnwicker1903 11 ай бұрын
Your major complaint is the 1/2 being too strong of an effect. Try 1/8 black pro mist for a subtle look.
@allenwc
@allenwc 2 жыл бұрын
Love your product placement. So well done and informative. If all product placements were like that, well. Have you tried to see if the green floater is still there with the filter as close to the lens as possible? (try shining a very bright flashlight through a triple glazed window at night). I agree about lens character. I've had a few over the years that just had that special sparkle.
@Liljoozy
@Liljoozy Ай бұрын
Voightlander is those 8:24 lenses that you are talking about
@AlexPresa
@AlexPresa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your secrets 🙈🙏
@alilevlog
@alilevlog 2 жыл бұрын
Thnx, top as always 👏
@DLivingston
@DLivingston 2 жыл бұрын
Moment cinebloom is great filter as well and use that for my sports stuff.
@aahritya_tv
@aahritya_tv 2 жыл бұрын
Black Satan filter is definately what I want!
@ganeshhamal9979
@ganeshhamal9979 2 жыл бұрын
Mr matti I want learn photography and cinematography with u Can u teach me ? If yes leave info Thank u
@joonasnieminenfi
@joonasnieminenfi 2 жыл бұрын
@Matti Haapoja have you tried Cooke cinema lenses? They should have some character that you don't find in any other lenses 😉
@darthjump
@darthjump 2 жыл бұрын
It´s mid 22´ and this is basically the "Hey i use a pro mist filter"-video everyone did two years ago. But with an explanation why which is nice to have.
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