My Serious Review of Project CARS 3

[@KoeingseggCCM]

And the best thing is? Slightly Mad Studios will look at the criticism and respond by throwing a shitfit.

[@lockettlv]

Ian Bell is litterly one of the worst people in gaming industry, a proper keyboard warrior

[@KoeingseggCCM]

@@lockettlv Hate to be that guy, but we have to refer Ian by his proper name: Bell End. We also refer to Slightly Mad Studios as Batshit Insane Developers.

[@Mike-1000]

@@lockettlv He is an arrogant prick, he banned me from his forum when I asked a basic question.

[@MrAyybee2cold]

Mike 1 Bell End strikes again.

[@Mike-1000]

@@MrAyybee2cold Haha, Bell End indeed

[@abloodynova7625]

SMS planned a mobile Project CARS?... That explains why PC3 looks like a mobile game... I'm not talking about the graphics - the UI is straight out of mobile.

[@NikitaOnline17]

Yeah, according to them Project Cars GO is still planned and in development too

[@ATribeCalledCars]

Yep, really seems like a lot of that made it into PC 3.

[@jonkarsypm6348]

This explain a lot of things...🤔

[@soulest2081]

And then they have to go up against Real Racing 3 🤮

[@CarKiller92]

Indeed, the menu UI is really garbage. I hope they patch it somehow soon, I can put up with it for a while but not too long.

[@spongy7x]

6:35 I bet they are planning to release these tracks as DLCs for 9.99$

[@tommy93hun]

Reiza doing the same thing.

[@1RolandG70]

Stigie Reiza aren’t probably sitting on the code. It’s likely they got to pay SMS for the resources, AND the venue for the license. And let’s face it, few of SMS’s tracks got laser scanned up to the standards Reiza’s customers want to see.

[@bensoniusprime]

My thoughts exactly

[@Lego___]

@@tommy93hun Not really. AMS2 has a huge amount of base content and will continue to get free updates. Reiza is a smaller studio than usual so unfortunately they do need funding outside of the base game. Its not nearly as bad as rFactor or iRacing. Plus the quality of content in AMS2 is great and worth paying for.

[@tommy93hun]

@@Lego___ "Plus the quality of content in AMS2 is great and worth paying for" If so, then why are they charging for Hockenheim that I bought already for AMS 1? Why not include this to the base content if the player base already bought these tracks in the previous game?

[@TrippyTrain]

The other vid was great tho

[@johnfitzgerald4456]

Totally agree 😊. So good.

[@SS_Sin_Of_Pride]

The guys behind GT and Forza must be laughing their asses off right now lmao.

[@markisaki979]

They were laughing their asses off when the game was announced.

[@drwgalabuschagne3287]

I'm not sure you'd put those two with the word sim...

[@vandecayear10]

@@drwgalabuschagne3287 they're arcade Sims. Not quite arcade, not quite sim, but a mixture of both. Project cars 3 is an arcade racer. Need for speed is an arcade racer. Iracing is a sim. Forza and GT are somewhere in between.

[@markisaki979]

@@drwgalabuschagne3287 I think they mean that they're laughing at SMS and saying 'Breaking into the simcade market is not so easy now, is it?'

[@lucasguimaraes5927]

@@vandecayear10 finally someone who actually understands how Forza and GT works, and what they proposes to do. All i see on the internet are people that don´t understand shit about racing games trying to fit those games on this or that group and saying absolutelly nonsense. Thank you for your sane comment.

[@felipefrango]

I was actually hyped for it being more arcadeish, it could be the Gran Turismo we never got on PC...but this is just horrible. What a shame.

[@xyetian]

true... it doesn't even seem like a Shift spiritual successor

[@F1ashingblade]

Yeah me too, as a xbox gamer I was really hoping for a simcade more toward the sim end of the scale like GT Sport. PCARS 2 game but with Forza like controller steering and the tyre wear time multiplier GT Sport has and I would have been a release day buyer.

[@MikeOnTrack]

Same. Absolutely gutted.

[@michaelskoomamacher5652]

Actually Shift 2 is just better looking game with more consistent gameplay, despite the gravity straight from Mars and delayed input. Just add a physics mod and its borderline (although not proper) sim now.

[@MrBurgerphone1014]

@@xyetian Yep, Shift 2 had more features.

[@Yardliver]

I can't stress enough how important your videos here are. They show how much of megalomaniac we're dealing with in the shape of Ian Bell. People has to know. Keep blowing that whistle!

[@xaf0163]

here’s someone with too much free time on there hands!

[@sirsilver1968]

Perfectly summed up there "don't waste your money"

[@truantray]

Idiots are still buying this overpriced game. The bar is getting lower and lower.

[@LIX56]

True. I have pc3 and i instaled try and delete. Real garbage

[@bartpaelinck8321]

I bought it for 30€. With a wheel the game is enjoyable but its a grind. Good thing about the game is the rivals mode (online time attack), and the pace setter events. Easy platinium trophy too if you spent some time on it. If you like grid i would recommend it when its on sale. The season pass (35€) costs more than the game in my case.

[@BlindReflections]

I'm gonna paste a comment I left elsewhere because well, my thoughts haven't changed in the slightest in regards to this. I tried 30 mins of it and I simply couldn't bring myself to play any longer (not to mention the game itself had me hostage by not letting me access any sort of setting menu until I'd completed the first couple of races). It has nothing to it that would make me pick it over any other generic arcade street racer, nevermind actually good series like Forza..the VR would have been an interesting feature, except I can't be bothered immersing myself that much in a game that quite simply, bored me in half an hour. The marketing itself has been all over the place, in Ian Bell's words: "All of the sim you could want with all of the fun you could want. Handling is massively improved, input on pads is transformed and FFB is amazing. The career mode is massively involved." Leaving out the blatant false advertising, I don't think even marketing it as a mobile game port would have saved the game. They seemed to focus it all on the 'definitive pilot experience' that they call their career mode, and yet PC2 had a much more rewarding career than PC3's back to back 2-lap races. I could've gotten behind the old school GT approach of unlocking cars and slowly upgrading them to make them competitive, but PC3 makes it completely pointless, as you can only afford 1 or 2 minor upgrades before you accidentally lock your car out of its group and are unable to race anymore, resulting in having to reset the whole game if you don't have enough credits left to downgrade. It's all a series of choices that make absolutely no sense, more so considering the somewhat solid background they could've easily built on. I guess the signs were all there though, SMS giving Reiza their engine for AMS2 should've been a red flag for PC fans. The fact they stuck to the 'Community Assisted Racing Simulator' name is just spitting in the face of the people who made the series possible. Bottom line is, if you expected an upgraded PC2, this is not for you. If you wanted a more arcade-y racing game with good customisation, nice tracks and cars, play Forza Horizon..or anything else, really. We all expected Project Cars 3 to raise the bar before it was even announced, then we were lied to, and now that it's out, even those who were ok with playing an arcade got an unfinished, unpolished, terrible game, with no purpose or aim.

[@heated_seats2869]

Ermin I was genuinely impressed at how quickly you got that Roast of PC3 vid out, especially considering how entertaining it was. I'm even more impressed that you released a genuinely honest review. Keep up the content!

[@MisterRay15]

I like project cars 1, it's a bit janky and inconsistent, but the formula rookie, c and b cars are genuine fun to drive. I've spent so much time doing laps a spa to see how different cars do. My biggest peeve is that the cars could be accelerating in a straight line and all of a sudden lose ALL traction and just spin off to the side for no reason whatsoever

[@JCTiggs1]

Even as an arcade game PC3 barely does anything right, especially the actual gameplay which is downright awful.. - magic boosting rubber band AI, pulling away out of turns even when using the exact same car as the player - brain dead ram to pass AI - AI cars all crammed together closer than morning rush hour traffic, driving 2 or 3 wide at every turn while bumping off of each other - magic brakes with insane stopping power - magic tires with maximum grip rain or shine - zero damage effects to car performance, ram away just like the AI! - gamepad control with so many hidden assists it removes any feeling of dynamic car behavior and basically drives itself.. yep their testers were getting better lap-times compared to using a wheel. Lol What? The above issues only describe the actual 'racing gameplay experience' portion, which is THE most important part of any racing game, regardless of sim vs arcade style. Not even going to mention the plethora of other major problems and terrible design decisions.

[@od13166]

Even funny GRID 2019 has fun ai to compete with ai seems do mistakes like real player Such as Locking up wheels or slips out on exiting corners and also ai fights well That reason i sometimes boot up GRID 2019 but Pcars Ai is allways dumb down since first game they usually cheats over straght or full throttling into Water puddles on corners

[@magnussencube]

Last line reminded me of F1 2014's controller handling

[@od13166]

@Massimo De Grazia F1 2020

[@leo523]

​@Massimo De Grazia Maybe Forza on controller. But forget Forza on wheel. Or Grid Autosport.

[@socks2441]

@@leo523 grid autosport was alright. i hated the, i think it was tuner class though. had all the cars i like but you barely needed brakes for the corners, never needed anything other than 100% throttle. was impossible to spin out etc. all with assists off. felt horrible to me. other cars were good though. i liked the formula one type cars, they were tough to drive and required delicate throttle etc.

[@lottalava]

3:15 that rain graphics is to brake any heart!

[@CarlRaven91]

I'll stick with PCars 2 then. Thanks for the review!

[@fahmiperwira]

Same. Just got it from last week’s steam autumn sale, and it’s so enjoyable I don’t even think about pcars 3

[@LIX56]

Sell it instal ac and that's it. Gt is good to. I will sell pc3 because is garbage

[@LogiForce86]

Ermin, I think now you will be told to make a Ermin Racing Simulator by SMS since you know so well how to make one. They did to me when I had too much criticism like this within WMD. In the end though, I guess this is how far they can get without community guidance that hinderd their development according to them and was cut out of the equation this round.

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

Imagine damage model from first GRiD with Shift 2 level of car modification with PCars 3 physics (adjusted for more authentic feel on gamepad), online ranking system and full weather simulation from madness engine... This is arcade game I would spend hours playing and considered buying DLCs.

[@markisaki979]

Damage model from DiRT Rally 2.0, car customization from Forza Horizon 4, physics from PCars 3, online ranking system from Gran Turismo Sport and weather from F1 2020.

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

@@markisaki979 * Weather from Automobilista 2

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

@@markisaki979 Also all games mentioned in my comment are currently owned by Codemasters. This is the reason why I think game like that could be created and it's not just a fairytale.

[@Manuel-zc7po]

Pc3 physics? More like Pc2

[@diesel4ever273]

@@Manuel-zc7po both feel good tbh, but PC2 is still the more realistic one

[@007Spadge]

I think sim-racers just need to let their favorite scapegoat go and return to the games they enjoy. It's not a sim, and once one can accept that, there's a lot of fun to be had, if your pride can surmount the shame of playing with a controller that is. Actually, for an arcade racer, it's one of the better games on the current market, it's a little hidden gem for those who can appreciate it in fact. It has the advantage to be the descendend of a family of sim-racing games, which in it's third installment, took another approach to game design. In that way it still benefits from a good game engine which emulates real-life car behavior quite adequately, yet due to it's makeover dispenses itself of all the complexities and depth which a mere mortal gamer like me would consider as boring or dreary. Yes, it's not a sim-racer, and I understand the people who were rightfully disappointed at what project cars has become, but if you can get over that, there's very fun arcade racer here to enjoy.

[@bookle5829]

8:00 Raceroom is pretty great too for casual sim racers. Just you know, they usually get server maintenance, which make me wish they have a backup server or offline mode or something, which idk if that's possible for a small team, but I hope they can do that.

[@aces-ww8zl]

To be honest calling this pcars3 leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Sure I have zero problem making a gtsport forza clone, just call it that from the outset, the brand is knackered now. Automobilta 2 the true successor.

[@Lego___]

10:26 'Dont Simp' on the number plate lmao.

[@jerryk7862]

Well am having a lot of fun with Project CARS 3 and am getting a very strong vibe of NFS Shift

[@blue5peed]

At least we have Automobilista 2

[@LuukVdStreets]

they release it on ps4 or ps5. I don't have a pc so I am kind of hoping some will pop up. GT7 will be great but not a full sim

[@cionni-queenhunter2400]

The bad thing about that I has ask for my money back because they did not have any GT3 cars in the game not yet any way they say is coming I dont have to be waiting

[@My40Love]

Thanks Ermin, another killing review

[@KastaRules]

Better luck with PC4.

[@that-guy213]

I'm a casual racer and I've played 5 hrs of this game and I'm loving it graphics could be a little better but racing online against others is super intense and satisfying single-player campaign was okay nothing amazing but not totally trash AI are too aggressive pushing you out wide all the time but who buys racing games for the campaign. I think they multiplayer in this game is great and for anyone on the fence wait for a sale honestly, I believe you will have a blast online.

[@jamesbolho]

Thank you Ermin. The previous "review" was understandable, but this serious take was really needed after I saw some comments on other channels accusing the reviewers of being "simps" for not straight up bashing the game like you did. It's a shame what happened to this series, a perfect example of greed over passion. I'm mainly an AC guy now but I still like PC2 despite its flaws... and I guess I'll be sticking to it.

[@TWCRWEEDMAN]

It's sad everyone bashes this game I've had a great time playing it! Minus the occasional bugs like frame rate drops

[@diesel4ever273]

I just got it and I've been enjoying it too, it doesn't feel much different from PC2 on a wheel tbh. If you look at it like you would at GT Sport, it's actually a really nice game. The physics feel better and mpre realistic than GT Sport. On GT, it feels like most cars are on rails, specially GT3 cars. I love how those feel on PC2 and PC3. They have good grip but will still spin out if you aren't careful. The road cars feel like they have better grip than on GTS, both in PC2 and PC3, but at the same time they encourage more of a dirty driving, they make you work harder to control them and drive fast. This game isn't as bad as people are making it look like. The menus might not be the prettiest, but they sure are intuitive and easy to use. I was also one of those people talking crap about this game, until i started to look at it for what it was and not for what it should've been, decided to give it a go, along with a friend, and it turned out to feel a lot better than i expected.

[@lockettlv]

I am sad now. This should have been much much more, I loved Pcars 2 even playing on my Xbox, but this is just madness

[@psyaviah]

And it reflects what most of us are after I think... What you say on 07:28 is exactly what I pointed out before on PC2 development, but now even more so on PC3... Again, as said in video & by me: nothing against a good arcade racer, hell next to the last Need For Speed, next to DiRT, Wreckfest and FH4 I do my simracing in ACC (occasionally in AC, but just for trying out formula cars). Why? Only one sim title on a sport I like really much: gt racing. And it does replicate it well, it eats time to learn a track, a car, dial yourself in: but that's also fun. What's also fun is jumping in an arcade racer and just blasting through the tracks, fictional or real. But, that progression, the bonkers nature, the graphics then have to live up to it. Take FH4 to this and you'll see graphically FH4 is lightyears ahead, as well lightyears ahead in terms of that "tuning" or "upgrading" your car aspect. It's nothing new. Even the last Need For Speed was better in that department. It is sad it is conceived so badly, I would've liked a good arcade racer, or simcade even. But it isn't. I even prefer the boring grindy GRID then over this mess... No that's not true, I would rather like a good PC3 fixed, optimized, decent graphics, better economy, visuals when upgrading. Because now I'll fall back to FH4 for those - and what I mess in arcade racers is "real tracks" + a better or at least more in tune handling model (even if toned down, not bad for this type of game), which is what PC3 can bring!

[@SpressoMan]

2:28 "...you can still feel an immensely capable and nuanced simulation engine underneath it all." Exactly, so turn that simulation engine over to somebody who cares (say, Reiza); and let them make a driving simulation. SMS can tackle the arcade portion. Great video Ermin!

[@1RolandG70]

James Clausen I’m praying the next gen consoles can run this gen’s PC sims. Reiza have hinted about a console port.

[@PeteBaldwin]

That’s what’s happened already - the arcade portion is called PC3 and the driving simulation version is called AMS2.

[@1RolandG70]

@@PeteBaldwin And meanwhile, back in the real world where not every sim driver has a PC...

[@sevenbelow7]

I'm just glad people are at last seeing sms as a bunch of charlatans. Telling the public what their game will do,but 3 times in a row now its done none of the 'hype' pre-release spraff. Ian Bell is a lying thief!

[@DV-ou1yu]

Yes..please spread this!!! SMS is awful

[@1RolandG70]

Opinions vary... on PC, with better alternatives, yes SMS look a bit shady. On console, despite the bugs, SMS delivered the best sim experience ever in PC2. If you had an upper tier console, that is...

[@DV-ou1yu]

@@1RolandG70 an unplayable experience on gamepad

[@1RolandG70]

D V Yet some managed. In fact, some WR’s are set on pad. It’s not unplayable. It’s just not noob easy. Bottom line, for the cost of PC3 deluxe and all DLC, you could find a used baseline wheel. And play what you like rather than be forced into lousy choices because you are stuck on a pad.

[@DV-ou1yu]

@@1RolandG70 lmao defensive much? I have no interest sitting down using a wheel to drive in a video game...a video game. And you're trying to imply my preference towards a gamepad is due to a budget limitation Lmao just stop, I told you what it is....I thought is was unplayable on gamepad and many agree. The few who got those deadzones just manageable enough to enjoy, Great for them.

[@RobOngrui]

I think we can kinda blame this one on codemasters. PC2 wasn't a bad game, it just had one too many flaw. Paul Rustchynsky was the game director of this one and usually knows what he is doing, combining this with the team at Slighlty Mad something just feels wrong and maybe rushed.

[@junkawakami3193]

it's like they're simply porting what has to be a mobile game but didn't even delivered that one

[@Totalpckge]

Just for the record though, it was stated in the other video Project Cars 2 improved from PC1 and was expected to improve on PC3 but you also have to keep in mind that's when Codemasters bought them and even though I don't know I'm sure it's safe to guess that CodeMasters influenced how Project Cars 3 came out. I don't think it's fair to jump all over Slightly Mad Studios. Slightly Mad came out with two games trying to be what they set out to be and as with anything it was a work in progress but when you have a new owner come in things can and in most cases change if the new owners want a change. As anyone knows whoever is spending the money usually has control over the final product. I know what I'm saying isn't revolutionary BUT it was said to be put out there as food for thought for those who didn't think of it. What do you guys think?

[@janwilkowsky4588]

There are plenty of other realistic sim games out there you can continue to play. As for arcade games, as long as this one is better than Codemasters grid re-release I’m still definitely considering PC 3

[@tylerfox6245]

I haven't bought the game but after watching reviews I feel like a lot of this will be made better in the first couple patches because they don't seem unfixable

[@MilhadSalihi]

I'm shocked by the disrespect that SMS has shown towards the player base that crowdfunded PC1. If anything, you have an obligation to commit and develop what players are looking for, if you plan to use the name PC3 and continue that legacy.

[@HyperBlueWolf]

PC1 crowdfunding was nearly 10 years ago.... You can't expect any developer to be your lifetime servant just because you gave them $40 a decade ago. Should Sony give you a free new 65" TV every year for the rest of your life, just because you bought a 14" black & white portable 40 years ago?

[@MilhadSalihi]

@@HyperBlueWolf But it would be OK if they sold you a microwave called PlayStation 5?

[@BigT812-o3s]

Cry me a river you probably vibrate your chair and desk to simualte racing cars

[@PPedroFernandes]

@@HyperBlueWolf not the point. It's about respect to the PC brand and fans. Wanna make an arcade game? Sure, it's your fucking company. But call it "Speedy cars" or something, not PC3

[@niklassilen4313]

Dude, you are so out of whack with that comment. It was NOT a typical crowd funding. We got our MONEY BACK + more. SMS doesn't owe anybody anything. They can do what the heck they want. Unfortunately they ended up creating a bad game but that's their prerogative.

[@yuriykaraivan8310]

Unoptimized is an understatement, weather seems to give extra dofficulties to drop fps from5 to 20 randomly and some cars seem to giving fps drops as well

[@SpressoMan]

5:50 that's not a bug, silly Ermin, that's a feature! It helps you see the corner apexes better. :-D

[@christhiell1524]

Spa and Le Mans are "missing" because they will probably be released as some goofy season pass/DLC. That's the video game world today; release a half finished game, make your consumer pay $60 to beta test the damn thing (why pay people to do that when you can just charge your consumer full price anyways???) and then add the unfinished content as a "deluxe" or "special edition" to squeeze some extra cash out of the consumer.

[@charlizesampson2650]

Just like Assetto Corsa then. Which according to many people is a great game

[@christhiell1524]

@@charlizesampson2650 I just happen to get into SIM racing years after it came out so the whole game for me ended up being $12 lol. Just have to be slow to the party I guess :)

[@arkekkers]

Its like that popular business quote, “If you try to satisfy everyone, you satisfy no one.”

[@hamishthecat4370]

Hey Ermin, oi oi oi and all that. Thanks for the honest review mate. Nothing worse than being "influenced" into buying someone's second class products as I was with PC2.

[@DanyGee83]

GR8 REVIEW MAN. U pointed out everything that needed to be pointed out in this case, including SMS backstabbing the community.

[@graysonbyass-rascoe4326]

Looking like csr 2 on mobile

[@Pe11ePD]

After all, Ian Bell is PROUD, and that is the most important thing. xD

[@MJY5drives]

the one game where GT3, V8 super cars, and a sesto elemento are in the same class

[@Illuminacent]

What they did to PC2: Released it half finished and never fixed the bugs n problems(Dumb ai, inconsistent physics etc.). Was the last SMS game bought by me.

[@yrtracingteam106]

Thanks. Didnt had the intension to buy it. Now i’m sure. Cheers 🍻 👍🏼

[@bookle5829]

9:00 Oh, and they're responsible for the latest fast and furious game.

[@carlgray6764]

you nailed it ! it is very inconsistent across the board and causes the fans on my 2080 to go into a spinning rage! we should have a graphics engine from them that has been tweaked since PC1 to run like a greased ferret ! they did it in ACC.

[@MrPaulmc1981]

What a amazing review of a game that I didn't know what to do about getting or not getting. It is such a shame that the developers of project cars 3 could be so confused about what they should have created for this game. There's nothing wrong with choosing between simulation or arcade but this was a shockingly bad way to go about things. Like you said this game engine has so much potential. I genuinely hope they have not destroyed there place within this long running incredible industry that is racing games. I commend your review of this game. Well done.

[@mateojimenez5905]

As funny as the other video was I prefer this one way more. The other one was biased and just sounded like u were mad bc u didn’t get an early version of the game. Thanks for a killing review Ermin!

[@JamesTumilty]

Nice follow up, thanks for the ultra honest review, hope this sends messages to all developers about what happens when you mislead the sum racing community. 👍

[@coffeebreak5751]

The review is great and entertaining. I actually really like the game, although the fact that the game is based around finding yourself cluttered and bumping other 20 cars in turn 1 is absolutely right. rolling starts would immensely help that

[@michaelmonstar4276]

Good to know that Automobilista 2, which I just got in a Humble Bundle with some of the other big ones, is basically like a follow-up to the first two Project CARS games. - Because for the longest time I was considering still giving those older ones a try, or at least one of them, even though I'd already decided against them (because a person can't play everything). - I didn't even know they used the same engine for it, which is kind of weird as well, since it's basically SMS's proprietary engine, but I guess they licensed it out. - And I also won't (effectively) give EA any money anymore when it comes to racers. Because I don't even agree with what they've done with "NFS" in the last 15-20 years, and I realized (only recently) that Forza actually does the essence of NFS better than NFS itself, and NFS basically became "Burnout" (which makes sense considering Criterion took over as far back as 2010). - Ironically, the only NSF-games I would still consider are the "Shift" ones, even though they're absolutely NOT what I'd want out of NFS-games. But they're such outliers that they're original enough to consider. And I didn't know those were by SMS as well. - Anyway, I've decided to just stick with Assetto and Automobilista, which seem very similar in terms of quality and how serious the creators take it (fingers crossed that Kunos and Reiza will stay independent for at least a good while), and then Forza and I suppose GT for the arcade-ish side of things.

[@oj7177]

As a pc2 fan, this is tough to watch. Pc2 is a great game, with an amazing ceiling. It has its flaws, and most of them are due to the lack of support and laziness after the launch of the game (after just one year the support stopped...), but i still believe that this is a great racing game. Flawed, but still great The most infurating thing is that, apart from the short support on pc2, pc3 was supposed to be the definitive project cars, the game that really put pc and sms on the map. But it fell short, very short Sms can't get away with it Yesterday i saw a twitter image of a message from ian bell, responding to a fan, considering pc4. He said that it is going to be a proper sim At first i was like "yes, finally a pc2 successor, maybe they will sort out some flaws in pc2" (example, the extreme grind to have a great setup for many cars, or the handling of some of them). But then i realized they are the same company that only supported pc2 for a miserable year and released pc3 after saying many many lies to the public. Also, the same company that has been bought by codemaster and will release pcgo. So my hopes went straight to the bin I'll keep pc2 as a reminder of what pc3 could have been Thanks sms for tricking your fans. My faith in game developers has never been lower after seeing ea, cdpr, sms, bethesda...

[@johnfitzgerald4456]

I enjoyed your review video of PC3. Thanks for the hard work.

[@Brand-yk6dw]

We're gonna take a chill review Also him: this game is flawless and gets a ign 10\10

[@roffatiskanal2592]

@Ermin - is there in the settings menu of PC3 for Pc a setting for UDP Datastream? I think i have seen it in a video. On my PS4 version is no option for UDP.

[@adamrichter4113]

My theory of what happened: They were making PC3 as a mobile game and when they were almost finished they found out the game engine didn't work on mobile. They then quickly changed up some things released it to consoles and PC instead.

[@Class380Fan]

Loving the Fallout music near the end of the review!

[@Ermz]

Good man!

[@nooobounds]

I feel so sad. The first Project Cars was the game that made me get into sim racing. When I saw what they did to the third instalment... I really wanted to cry.

[@MRD0889]

Holy crap.. I'm definitely new to sim racing. I've always played Gran Turismo games growing up. Now I'm running PC 🙂 so last year I decided to buy assetto Corsa. I loved it BUT I was gaming on keyboard 😂😂 So just recently I got my first wheel and pedals. I love it just love it So I was thinking about buying this game but before the reviews started pouring out, I already caught up with the slight controversy of the Project Cars games. So far every review I have seen is consistent and just not doing it for me to give the game a shot. Thanks for saving me money lol

[@cionni-queenhunter2400]

Thank you sir for your INFO I couldn't say it any better 👏 I was so upset With console racing games I Went out to buy a gaming computer just for racing 🏎

[@jonboy2950]

I thought the last review was serious, hehehe. Pity as i was looking forward to it being a good arcade game and something to drive around in having some fun. However it just dosent look like its something i will enjoy. Maybe if it gets patched but for now its a steer clear for me.

[@Jt7166]

My mind is still blown from discovering the Periphery and Architects thing 🤣. How about an Ermin and Misha get drunk and play pcars3 video 😂

[@Ermz]

I think Misha would love that, actually.

[@Jt7166]

@@Ermz definitely he's a car guy, and I think does a bit of sim racing too, or at least he used to.

[@Ermz]

I've been trying to get him into rF2, but he mostly does ACC with the guys. That and driving the Performante around the canyons with Tosin.

[@Jt7166]

@@Ermz those two get their hands on some badass cars...

[@kullanbroadway]

Keep in mind that they game just came out recently. There will be plenty of patches etc. but right now I’m gonna stick with project cars 2. Where it has LeMans when it doesn’t on 3. Which piss me off. Don’t waste your money until they do something about this game

[@axelode45]

Why the hell did they remove Spa Franchorchamps if it's in project cars 2?

[@snoozieboi]

I've owned no PCars game and still I'm bummed and watching this trainwreck

[@Derivedwhale45]

It been like that since day 1 for pc1 n gotten worse overtime

[@Kyleconley59]

I Actually Like this Game. I love Indycar Racing. And the cars are Incredible

[@paulb4519]

Great review. I wish I had resisted the temptation to give the game a go. I know it was always trendy among the sim community to diss PCars 1 and 2 but I genuinely like them. I only game on console so it was nice to have some sims to play. PCars 1 made me go and purchase a wheel. PCars 3 is just awful with a wheel, feels like the cars are floating. The AI is absolutely terrible too. I very much enjoy racing the AI in PCars 2 and it also looks graphically superior to 3

[@lordadz1615]

Can't believe its been almost 2 years since that game came

[@nicholasmills6489]

This will be a polarising game. Plenty of cars. Plenty of tracks. A sim like acc no way. Graphics ok. Sound ok and yes acc does the sim better. But project cars is more accessible than acc imo. It’s a step up from arcade but down from acc. It has its own uniques style of driving mechanic. For the middle ground of racing’s it’s good. So just like acc this game is growing on me and just like acc you have to understand the game and find its balance that suits you. Don’t get me wrong I love acc and on Xbox it’s the best racer but it got panned on this system but under the bonnet is a worthy sim. And it project cars 3 under the bonnet is actually a worthy simcade. You need accuracy and you can trail brake.

[@raztufik3590]

after playing, I've realised that the reason that the ai will wreck you on straights is because, they have instant shifts, the effect is even worse if you have a car with h pattern

[@prashanth8969]

Among AC, rfactor 2, automobilista which one is the best realistic sim? Kindly suggest me. Can you rank them in order.

[@Ermz]

rFactor 2 > AMS2 > AC in order of realism.

[@prashanth8969]

@@Ermz really are you sure? Why? I'm shocked that AC is last. Atleast AC deserves to be in 2nd place, if not 1st. The FFB, handling of AC are very realistic almost equal to rfactor2.

[@Ermz]

Did you ask for an opinion just so you could argue with it?

[@prashanth8969]

@@Ermz no. That's just my opinion and some other sim racers opinion. I really expected AC to be 2nd atleast

[@Le5sterleCheMiDevi]

Strange that as soon as Codemasters got its hand on Project CARS, they made a TOCA Race Driver game out of it.

[@Nago15]

If the really wanted to make a fun arcade game, that can compete with Forza they should have added 4 player splitscreen and a lot better music. (The menu music is quite good, but I can't imagine what drugs are needed to enjoy the race music.)

[@scotty6346]

I'm really surprised that this game look's worse than Pcars2, Pcars2 still look's great and is well optimized IMO, I still play it along with AC, ACC, AMS2 etc, Popracers FFB file transforms it, Sorry to go off topic mate!

[@ActNasty5]

Youre right. Hows the ffb file feel compared to ams2?

[@scotty6346]

@@ActNasty5 Popracers file is the best ive tried, He put alot of work into it, It's got me back into Pcars2, There is a lot of content in Pcars2 that i like so it's all good mate.

[@stigtuneback1966]

late respond to this game but anuways , what you Ermz say aboute it is spot on how it works driving in laps and races , your given almoast nothing to reach first place in some cases , and back n forth player feels like the opponents goes back n forth in speed during races laps , the others can run through the curves with almoast full speed with a tiny tiny brake before the curves while the player has to really really execute a HARD brake in order to take the curves at all , have noticed that through all the races i done playing this game PJC3 , HUGE shame really it is , then there are other issues that the players noticed during the play , from nowere one or a few cars can get a HUGE speed when almoast reached the last laps of a race , the opponents can be driven away from quite good in range to make the player feel safe in driving his own pace through the race , but then a few other cars can from somewere get a HUGE speed boost and come closer to the player during a race reaching the goal line and win , its dam weird and feels HUGE strange and ruins the gameplay quite good , .

[@VaunShiz]

The replay especially in those mazdas looked like granturismo 6 😂

[@r32juan]

i see people say it runs worse that pc2 and 1, but my i3 7100 and rx460 can run it at medium highs at a consistent 50-55fps, whereas in pc2 its impossible and pc1 barely

[@poppajack5332]

Have always considered Automobilista 2 to be what Project cars 3 should have been, This is the first sim where it feels like my steering wheel is really connected to the front wheels of the car, so realistic.....and to me that's what makes it fun

[@1RolandG70]

Poppa Jack And if Reiza were serious about a possible console port, that’s it for SMS. GAME OVER, MAN... GAME OVER!!! (Visions of the xenomorph bursting from Ian Bell’s bloated chest!) 🚀🛰🛸

[@trick6579]

Great review again. Honest and directly to the point, I totally agree with all what was said 👊🏻

[@yannick3900]

I'm getting Sebastian Loeb Rally flashbacks

[@RydogGaming2002]

I just wish that there was a sim game with races like in project cars but with the physics and handling model of beam ng drive

[@digitalcamaro9708]

Am I the only one who kinda feels bad for this game? It's okay that it's an arcade racer. And it's okay that it has bugs. But think about what SMS did and why. Their first mistake was naming it Project CARS 3 (which has been said a thousand times by now). They did it because it's their only popular title and wanted to grab attention. But that's also misleading. What else is misleading? Calling it a damn SIMULATOR before it comes out. That's literally lying to your fans and deceptive to newcomers. And the worse part is that in 2018, they told us it was going to be a spiritual successor to NFS Shift (they were the devs for those games), but they didn't really make it very public and didn't stick to that story as well. Now for the game itself. I have yet to play it but it already is in trouble. Idk the sales numbers yet, but the reviews range from pretty good game to SHIT. Some people like the game for what it is, some are on the fence and want to see it through, and a lot of people won't bother touching it. Criticism is mostly negative and hateful and some is constructive. The actual gameplay is said to be "Smooth but a bit floaty" with "missing tracks" and "missing features", which are signs of a rushed product. And SMS is not known for producing quality updates and patches. Games can be fixed, saved, or just released correctly, but there is already a lot of damage done to what could be a genuinely good game. Between the alarming controversy, SMS's poor advertising and lack of response to the situation, and the rather stiff competition (we all know it will be compared to Forza and GT), this might be a bust. And it really sucks.

[@wordsshackles441]

So Igor Fraga and Mikail Hizal are casual racers according to you ? Did I understand that right ? The FIA GT manufacturer and nations cup are casual competitions ? Is that correct ?

[@stormskiller]

I have a Question, should i get this game on my xbox(brcause it has Controller and more power) or my pc(with a weel)?

[@dokken1212]

Great review - honest, objective and utterly truthful. Thank you :-)

[@humandroid53]

Was a sad end to a promising series. I still enjoy PC 1. Cracking review!

[@holyboy1]

I just got this game, after a few races I upgraded my car and now I cannot enter a race because its class is too high, how the hell do I unequip the upgrades?

[@Precisionreelworks]

Is there a sim-cade type game that's still good for customization? I have yet to cavf and buy the forza PC games. Thanks!

[@PowerQ]

Thanks for this review Ermin, enjoyed this way more than the sarcastic review. Didn't feel like you gave it a fair shot in that one. I get why you are mad at SMS and Codemasters, but the sarcastic tone really felt like a childish approach. This review is wonderful, and feels a lot more like you're giving it a fair judgment. And I don't know if I'm right but it doesn't feel like you're putting up and act in this review, which I like a lot more

[@JamesTumilty]

After the dev threw his toys out of the pram with his comment on Ermin's PCe video, I thought that the ultra sarcastic approach was more than justified. It got a whole load of attention and it's what SMS probably feared most. I am glad, however, it has been followed up by a very tidy, succinct and fair review. It shows that the last video was not simply childish, but was very well produced seething comedy.

[@psyaviah]

And it reflects what most of us are after I think... What he says on 07:28 is exactly what I pointed out before on PC2 development, but now even more so on PC3... Again, as said in video & by me: nothing against a good arcade racer, hell next to the last Need For Speed, next to DiRT, Wreckfest and FH4 I do my simracing in ACC (occasionally in AC, but just for trying out formula cars). Why? Only one sim title on a sport I like really much: gt racing. And it does replicate it well, it eats time to learn a track, a car, dial yourself in: but that's also fun. What's also fun is jumping in an arcade racer and just blasting through the tracks, fictional or real. But, that progression, the bonkers nature, the graphics then have to live up to it. Take FH4 to this and you'll see graphically FH4 is lightyears ahead, as well lightyears ahead in terms of that "tuning" or "upgrading" your car aspect. It's nothing new. Even the last Need For Speed was better in that department. It is sad it is conceived so badly, I would've liked a good arcade racer, or simcade even. But it isn't. I even prefer the boring grindy GRID then over this mess... No that's not true, I would rather like a good PC3 fixed, optimized, decent graphics, better economy, visuals when upgrading. Because now I'll fall back to FH4 for those - and what I mess in arcade racers is "real tracks" + a better or at least more in tune handling model (even if toned down, not bad for this type of game), which is what PC3 can bring!

[@grrinc]

I agree. I thought the first review was too much - he seems to be taking this far too personally. Even in this review, he seems way to preoccupied with the politics and business practices of the developers. He just cannot simply review the game on its own merits.

[@psyaviah]

But he did review in on its own merits@@grrinc, you can listen to it. Yes of course he mentions some politics but also says he understands some of that. All in all this is a very on point and fair review - which echoes many others. Why personal? Well we know what SMS can do and that is is a good team of devs, when a crew can't do it's work well, it's a shame really.. And sometimes that leads to things like that. Certainly if a captain of a ship is touting that it's the best game ever....

[@StruggleGaming]

Excellent review, thanks for your hard work! Money will saved

[@SimRacingVeteran]

I agree that AMS2 is really well done.

[@tem0079]

This game looks like a miserable mess. No thx SMS

[@grrinc]

I'm 11 hours in. It has problems for sure but it's great fun. The vr is great.

[@glengirot3087]

Let me start by saying that I actually agree with you. Only? I did buy this and have to say once they fix the bug fixes and improve the AI this is actually a half-decent game for the console market. once you get past career mode and treat it as what it is, a racing game that you can hot lap and create a custom grid to race. The fun factor is there xp grinding for the next upgrade 🙂(this game has potential)

[@1RolandG70]

Glen Girot Once they fix the bugs..? Excuse me while I have a fit laughing. 🤣 This your first SMS game? LOL

[@reilandeubank]

I think it’s odd how the game looks so different when you’re driving vs a replay camera. In the cinematic cam you could pretty much pass it as any other sim

[@1RolandG70]

Eubank31 Replays capped at 30fps on console... PC any better?

[@reilandeubank]

Destinkeys Racing Videos I haven’t played, I just was judging off of the videos I had seen including this one

[@1RolandG70]

Eubank31 I’m more concerned about just how bouncy everything looks in replays. Eye candy’s ok, but the car needs to move right...

[@NikitaOnline17]

Strictly as an arcade game, how do you think it'll be if they patch up the AI, difficulty, and bugs? I think the AI is an issue carried over from PC2... I only played that in multiplayer because they were clearly not using the same physics system as the player was, and could take turns at impossible speeds while being incredibly slow on others. This just isn't good for an arcade game though, where you have to spend a significant part of your playtime in single player grinding out cars and upgrades.