My Sister's Family Became Homeless And Need Help But I Know I Can't Trust Them r/AITA

[@TriFekt]

For story 1: That part when the nephew said he liked the tent better because he could be himself and it felt like his own little house... That hit different, he is just trying to hide from the crap situation he's constantly surrounded with by his parents.

[@krafka]

Therapist is old boss's spouse: the update and comments seem to want to believe that the therapist was less unethical and willing to put the blame on the old boss. I'm more inclined to believe that the therapist got the wife to confess and throw herself on the grenade to save his license. Based on the update, NOTHING happens to the old boss while the therapist saves his license and gets a small reprimand for what many people would chalk up to a small indiscretion (talking a bit too freely and not keeping records more secure) - notice that their story is that the old boss figured out it was the OP based on small hints and details, not from the therapist revealing who the patient was. Sure, therapist closed his old office. But, at least he still has his license, so can open another one in another location after the dust settles.

[@dionysus_adores]

Sounds like a conflict of interest it's gross. If your a therapist don't disclose your patient's name or issues

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

Most likely, this, although I can't imagine it would help her career, either. Demonstrating a willingness to violate an employee's privacy is a liability for the company. I imagine she doesn't have reports anymore.

[@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypse]

It sounded to me like his license was suspended and under investigation. It can take a while for a formal decision to come down

[@sazzaxeight3124]

Yeah guarantee the boss at least asked him if it was OP and he affirmed it. Hope he loses his license and she loses her marriage. What toxic people.

[@maxsupernova]

Story 1: Toxic family is toxic. They have no ability to respect boundaries. If they keep harassing, I recommend going no contact with the lot of them.

[@lkayh]

Story 1: Well, I guess the adults in that family found a housing solution. Free, very secure housing for the next few years. But seriously, if there’s any kind of therapy available for a kid in the nephew’s situation, it’s a good idea. He needs a much better way to deal with his problems than his parents modeled for him.

[@Justaperson354]

Not only did they find free housing, but it’s in a gated community!! Lol

[@LeggoMyGekko]

@@Justaperson354 💀

[@lkayh]

@@Justaperson354 Right?? I really hope that young man gets counseling. He’s got a lot to overcome.

[@groofromtheup5719]

Some people actually choose prison as a solution for housing problems. I had a former coach "try to" stab a cop near the end of his life because he didn't want to be a burden on his family. I don't think he served more than a week.

[@lkayh]

@@groofromtheup5719 My grandfather came from a wealthy family that lost it all during the Depression. He used to tell he story about going to the Sheriff in one town and asking to be arrested, just to get something to eat. And I’ve heard of people who couldn’t afford healthcare committing crimes after they learned they had a major illness like cancer, just so they could get treatment. It says a lot about our system.

[@kateemma22]

I KNEW THE PARENTS WEREN'T JUST HOMELESS BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC! I KNEW THERE WAS MORE GOING ON!

[@captaainleese]

literally one of the first classes we have/had to take is ethics. even if they are your family, significant other, or whatever they may be, you aren't supposed to bring what your client tells you in confidence to anyone else no matter if you are vague or not. you never know who can identify someone else (no matter how small the details), if you flat out just tell them who they are, or how that will affect the client themselves.

[@debbymccormack6525]

I totally agree. Disclosing info given to you in a patient/doctor scenario is private. Breaching that trust, whether it be to a spouse or someone else is significantly unethical and shows your patients are not valued by you. I'm an extremely private person and always have been. It takes a lot for people to seek help and when they do, they should know it won't be compromised in any way. Sharing someone's private info because you want to discuss your day is not your option if you are a doctor. His wife is a total POS as far as I'm concerned. They have both violated their positions of power.

[@browhattheactualfu-2659]

While it is sad, its for the best that the nephew is away from his parents

[@maxsupernova]

Story 2: I tell everyone that I'm depressed and have issues. I really wish we could normalize discussions about mental health, so it can't be weaponized the way it was against OP.

[@goreslashdow3813]

Yeah, I literally joke about being on anti-depressants and such. These things need to be destigmatized. Not to mention if there's better education, people can be better able to realize they have a problem and reach out for help.

[@lee-jj1js]

Your just suposed to lie and say your ok and the look on peoples faces when your honest about stuff not being good is shocking but if you've never woke up disappointed that you did you can't understand that feeling so why burden anyone else with that.

[@groofromtheup5719]

Blame the government. When I was at my lowest, I decided that I'd rather be dead than get the "scarlet letter" on my permanent record. I won't even hint at depression to a medical professional. It's the next thing to being a convicted felon, thank to HIPPA.

[@luciferandassociates9255]

Story 2: And this is why I couldn't be a therapist, having to listen and took in so many things, trying to help them through it and you're not allow to talk about them to anyone. I'm too emotional for that.

[@piiinkDeluxe]

i think it's part of the education to learn how to deal with it. I think you can talk to other people of your profession about it, without mentioning identifying details.

[@DoctorJaneDoe]

You can also get your own therapist, so you can discuss stuff in confidence. Even therapists need therapists

[@CompanionCarli]

I hope the poor nephew gets a ton of therapy. That kid has a ton of trauma and while giving him his own space is ok he's definitely seen some shit because of his parents addictions. more than likely he's seen at least on parent OD or a friend of a parent OD.

[@agentzapdos4960]

S1: Yeah, once you're poor, that's it, it's over. There's no way on Earth that OP's sister will ever "get back on their feet". OP is NTA.

[@Hiimreggie]

@@aduckofsomesort there's alot of stories of former drug addicts getting back on their feet, soo the world may never know

[@Mia-dt3gl]

So they wanted the nephew out of the house so they could do drugs. Stellar parents.

[@untiedshoelaces2588]

Story 1: NTA x 1000! From the words, attitude and actions of the "family" members, it is very easy to deduce that, once they get their hands on that camper, OP will never get it back! This is as good as lending them money - it will never be returned! Story 2: OP needs to immediately report their psychiatrist to the relative authority. This is the time to make a fuss - a huge fuss - about all of this! After hearing the update. I believe the psychiatrist simply closed down his practice and will eventually reopen somewhere else when everything cools down. If this had ended up going to court, the office staff would have been subpoenaed, and they would have had no choice but to tell the truth.

[@cynicalminion]

8:50- the zombie baby from trainspotting... NEVER SLEEP AGAIN!!

[@Pastel_Dreams]

2nd Story: The path seems clear. 1) Leave that person's practice 2) Find a new therapist 3) Gather evidence and testimonials from witnesses 4) Find a blood-thirsty lawyer 5) Sue the crap out them for breach of Patient Confidentiality, Defamation of Character and Slander

[@keepdancingmaria]

LOL! "They called the tent temporary." Well, YEAH?

[@reallyisay]

The State has fund for nephews medical needs..don't use school counselor for intense therapy ..

[@EluneAnzu]

Heard the first story before, opinion is still the same, OP was 100% wasn't getting the camper back if he did "lend" it, if a tent was "temporary" there's no way they weren't planning on keeping the camper.

[@GIChiyo]

Story 2: That's a HIPPA/ethics violation (or equivalent in other countries), report them immediately

[@heatherweir8726]

The nephew should be in therapy. He needs someone to talk to about the situation.

[@PeterShipley1]

the old boss's company is also potentially liable, and I can guarantee, from experience that they will be willing to quickly settle.

[@peteranon8455]

Story 1. NTA. That story was done when the family came by a vehicle to tow away the trailer without OP's permission.\ Edit after update: I guess it keeps on going!

[@jimmyjohnjuan]

I think the parents were the one that was the missing ones. The kid just picked up the habit because that's what he has always seen.

[@reallyisay]

Was op really Surprised??? It's was always going to end in tragic tears

[@stellamccoy5259]

one word or acronym, HPPA. Report him to the board asap.

[@theroyalbugness]

Markee!!! Top o' the morning to you sir! I hope you are well. Thank you so much for the upload. You are very appreciated 💜💜💜

[@LisaApril]

Story one: if a social worker is coming to check on the Nephew, aren’t the parents getting the childcare fee that all foster parents get? They should be able to afford whatever the child needs. In California, relatives do get funds for taking care of Children related to them. (Another one of the reasons why I adore the great state of California).

[@aprilfox9205]

Typically foster parents get paid but unfortunately family does not. My mom took in 2 of her grandkids instead of sending them to foster care. She received no help. All her kids had to pitch in. It's sad and not easy that's why a lot of people won't do it.

[@harrymiller7517]

Story 1, not surprised about the turnout of the story. I would have used a trailer lock on the camper, as well, just in case A tent for the nephew is not a permanent solution, he may have to go into the attic in the end, or even set up a shed in the yard and deck it out for him. Not ideal, but the attic could be useful for if/when he changes his mind and later for storage etc. But overall, some stability should be good for him.

[@CaulkMongler]

Story 1: so they need a camper but he doesn’t need to worry bc it’ll only be temporary, BUT a tent isn’t feasible bc it’s too… temporary? Like what. Also, some tents are rather large and can accommodate a lot of things inside of it.

[@maxinemyers9215]

I remember both these stories and love the update, thanks💐

[@kimberly8164]

Ntah, You don't owe anybody anything. And if they want him to have a room bad enough they will save what they need to save and make it happen the right way

[@Jynxninja]

I hope you are well

[@Markee]

Thank you :) I am well just got sick last week again and decided to take some time off. Appreciate everyone’s concerns for me though you’re all too sweet xo

[@Jynxninja]

@@Markee I am glad you are taking care of yourself!

[@darninacoleman2562]

I’ve been homeless for 25% of my life. The neighborhood the intake shelter was in had an ice cream truck. This ice cream truck played 2 different melodies. The normal 1 we all know and love then a different 1. Well come to find out they play the special melody when they were selling cocaine, crack, and heroin.

[@UchuKejiMovan]

AITA for not lending my sister MY CAMPER? Smh

[@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypse]

Story 3: I wonder if the therapist spouse could divorce and sue the former boss if he does indeed lose his license over this.

[@nightdweller6446]

Nta. The flying monkeys can p off Just ganging up on OP is an AH move. They'd trash it. Update wow, glad that it ended up better for the nephew. It sounds like he may turn out for the better as a result of his parents being jailed. Hopefully, he won't fall off the rails. OP is definitely NTA and stepped up.

[@casket.case99959]

I was wondering why no one sent ops sisters family sent them towards a shelter for help. But the drugs made it all make sense. Can't go to the shelter if you cant pass a drug test. Smh. That's really sad. I hope ops sister and husband get clean and pull they're lives back together.

[@GBunnyG]

A tEnT iS tEmpOrArY. Um. Opposed to the camper you're BORROWING?!

[@torukurebayashi1960]

Imagine having a spouse so nasty you loose the job you most likely have worked very hard for and thought yourself secure until retirement. I honestly doubt that he kept his files so badly, because if nasty people want info, they dig and destroy until they get info. I hope the divorce is heavily in his favour, and if I were in his shoes I'd sue my spouse into repaying all the lost money and potential lost money.

[@groofromtheup5719]

Your spouse is going to have keys to your office. My father has a medical office. I am in regular contact with at least 4 people with keys. I don't have a set myself because I am very minimal with keys. I put keypads on the house for this reason.

[@torukurebayashi1960]

@@groofromtheup5719 that's why spouses of people with NDA jobs that keep their info outside of work buildings often have to sign NDA contracts too. When I started homeoffice due to covid, I brought contracts for the whole family home. If even one wouldn't have signed I would've been forced to work in the office during the pandemic.

[@axlengland]

Markee I just love you man. You're always spot on with the judgements. 💕 Could you please do another r/legaladvice and/ or /treelaw?! Those are my favorites, and you do them so freaking well!

[@tennesseedogpack]

When you live in an area where everyone carries fire no one threatens that pull a gun shit

[@fishsticks3729]

Everyone in story 1 failed nephew

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Hey Markee have a good night 👋 Have a great day/night everyone 🤗

[@sophdog2564]

Glad to see you back Markee!

[@telinhajp]

Good night, Markee! Sweet dreams. おやすみ！❤️😴

[@jbgra2566]

Hey! Glad you are back! Hope you are feeling better ✨

[@jessicawolfe5861]

Professional ethics of talking about therapy sessions with someone especially someone who knows OP is a huge Nono. In fact if this is in the US, it’s a HIPAA violation. Plus all his records need to be locked up. Complain to the licensing board.

[@ceciliacalvin207]

Marker, I miss seeing your smiling face.

[@MN-zh2vd]

Dude. Tou took in a minor... but he's still in a tent? Wtf. Take him, or don't. ** edit ** ohhhhhh, he likes the tent and has the option. Ok. Apologies. That's cool.

[@magicmiya7545]

I’m glad you’re back ❤

[@danter33d74]

Welcome back Markee

[@RWorley3sl]

Yep, knew they were on drugs

[@philomenaquinn1158]

Story 2 Your therapist is discussing you out side of the office and it's in breach of HIPA regulations and then his partner is discussing what is said in therapy with every Tom dick and Harry this is in total breech of the license and I would sue your therapist for damages and you can destroy his career and look at the damages from your old boss , for gossiping and breeching your personal records which was illegal,and you can go for damages

[@roberthickman2907]

If the one with the therapist, is in the USA they will receive a fine of at least $25,000, that is if they keep their license. When they break HIPAA the least fine they can get is $25,000.

[@Justaperson354]

Actually it can be as low as $100. 25,000 is the highest not the lowest. But you can easily lose your license for things like that.

[@groofromtheup5719]

2 things going on. The blabbing (I bet very common) and the insecure record keeping (also, very common). The real issue is the old boss. What kind of idiot married to a therapist would pull that crap? I grew up as the child of someone with a medical practice. I heard stuff I shouldn't, even if it was just because my voice sounds like my father's on the phone. I actively send that stuff "out the other ear" and always have. I still have access to keys for the building. If I really was that type of AH, I could have done it too. My wife worked in an ER in the past. She had to talk about some of the crap she went through. Probably good I developed my "not remembering" skills and am not a blabber. There was some sick shit she got involved in. I think 1 case hit the national news. Some of it did stick, but I'm still not one to blab.

[@zozocecp]

It’s actually illegal to live in a camper on somebody’s (or your own) property. It’s illegal to camp in a tent in your own backyard for more than 2 weeks also.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

Depending on where you live and if you live in a city or neighborhood or not

[@emilybarclay8831]

That’s not a universal law. It’s perfectly legal in most of the world and in in a dozen US states

[@zozocecp]

@@emilybarclay8831 wow really i thought everywhere had the same laws. sarcasm

[@reallyisay]

No it's not.. HOA or condo communities yes but it's not a state law

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

As long as it's set up right it is legal at least where I live.

[@kiraalexandraruizburgos1236]

🦐

[@peteranon8455]

Story 2. Nope, not a good resolution. Therapist should lose his license for this.