My Top 10 Worst UFA Signings Thus Far

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Mike Bartner

Mike Bartner

3 күн бұрын

Basically every top free agent has been signed so lets looks at the WORST deals signed.

Пікірлер: 84
@nissin2029
@nissin2029 2 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you don't consider Monahan any different than the Tiffoli signing. Monahan is also there to mentor our young centers (Fantilli, Sillinger). How is this different?
@Junketsuadidas
@Junketsuadidas 14 сағат бұрын
Monahan has bad injury history, that’s probably the only difference
@sewerrat9086
@sewerrat9086 2 күн бұрын
I agree the Monahan term is slightly too long and one of the reasons we went for him was to get more veteran presence on the roster. I can’t see us keeping Jenner and Kuraly around for too much longer and Lindstrom is going to take at least a year to make the roster I’m guessing. I actually think with the cap going up the salary will be fine at the end of the contract. If Waddell went after multiple guys yesterday I would’ve been worried but this is a fair deal imo.
@RyanM0526
@RyanM0526 2 күн бұрын
Lindholm last time he had NHL linemates scored 40 goals and 82 points. I’m going to believe Pastrnak brings him back to that
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
As I said in it he's definitely gonna have a significant points bump, but he still isn't close to a 1C.
@RyanM0526
@RyanM0526 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner if he scores 42 goals he’s a 1C
@boxvango9021
@boxvango9021 2 күн бұрын
We had him in Vancouver, and although he's no 1C, the guy is a beast in the circle, checks hard, physical play, a pain to play against, and a clutch guy. You get a good playoff bump, too.
@MisterStealYourChick
@MisterStealYourChick 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartnerwasn’t he a number 1C in Calgary next to tkachuk & gaudreau?
@strategy666
@strategy666 2 күн бұрын
@@RyanM0526he isn’t scoring 42 goals when he was with Vancouver he didn’t do a whole lot until the playoffs
@cbjm36
@cbjm36 2 күн бұрын
How is the Monahan deal any different from those deals San Jose and Chicago made that you pointed out at the end? You can apply the same logic that Monahan was signed as mentor role and to help develop guys like Fantilli and Lindstrom that you applied to San Jose and Chicago? Makes no sense whatsoever.
@FumbleFusion
@FumbleFusion Күн бұрын
What you think about the Guentzel contract
@jordynbebus6641
@jordynbebus6641 2 күн бұрын
I think Guerin was banking on the fact that his numbers per/60 was better than what Minnesota had now. But at 4 year yeah makes no sense
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
He played 14:34 this year though, can't imagine he's passing 16 minutes in Minnesota.
@jordynbebus6641
@jordynbebus6641 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner said they’re gonna give him 3rd line minutes and top PK unit. Him with Folingo and Hartman is would be interesting. Not for 3.5 tho
@tylersees6665
@tylersees6665 2 күн бұрын
​@MikeBartner the wilds pk was the worst in the league basically. We need all the help
@jordynbebus6641
@jordynbebus6641 2 күн бұрын
@@tylersees6665 had a lot to do with goaltending but yes
@wolfxp2
@wolfxp2 2 күн бұрын
Sam carrick best baby! And curious what’s worse in your opinion: stamkos at 4x8 or hedman at 4x8?
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
Both are overrated but I think Stamkos one is worse
@xboltx275
@xboltx275 2 күн бұрын
I’m a lightning fan and my opinion on this is I would rather pay Hedman cause he is still a top 5-10 D man and he could make more on open market but I do think JBB could’ve easily paid stammer like 5 mil which he said he was fine taking to stay
@wolfxp2
@wolfxp2 2 күн бұрын
@@xboltx275 hedman is not a top 10 defenseman
@BQQKS
@BQQKS 2 күн бұрын
@@wolfxp2 hes top 10(ish). Not what he once was but still a great dman
@hoopskillerproductions2921
@hoopskillerproductions2921 2 күн бұрын
Off-Topic but Hurricanes do love signing their offensive defense man cause they projected have Burns (Just Signed Walker which It a great deal) Gostibehere and DeAngelo on their roster
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
Agreed I think they got some solid value instead of overpaying Skjei, Pesce or Teuvo. Losing Jake who only got $9M is tough though.
@marksbeats3053
@marksbeats3053 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartnerI agree about Pesce and Skjei, Im a canes fan and glad we didnt overpay 7 mil for him. But Im not feeling great about this new GM right now or our roster next season. Will have to wait to see what trades we make with the cap space we have left
@ChillBlinton
@ChillBlinton 2 күн бұрын
DeAngelo is a free agent
@hoopskillerproductions2921
@hoopskillerproductions2921 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner I wish They re sign Back Pesce but I do not think is worth it
@Voidcc12
@Voidcc12 2 күн бұрын
Mountour needs to be on this
@jimmyzarkis6276
@jimmyzarkis6276 Күн бұрын
Montour got paid for what he did, and not what he is going to be doing. He looked bad last half of this season.
@TylrVncnt
@TylrVncnt 2 күн бұрын
You don’t think Preds will be good this upcoming season?
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 2 күн бұрын
Toffoli's contract was also pretty much what was expected. Evolving Hockey had 3x6.1M and AFP Analytics had 4x6.02M. You could argue that the fourth year and the NMC are a "bad team tax" but I don't think it comes close to a worst signing. There's more of an argument for the Wennberg signing since that's probably around 2M more than he'd likely have gotten elsewhere, but getting some insurance in case Couture can't play and the two year term is short enough that it doesn't hurt them (Eklund will be the first player due a raise and this deal will be off the books at that point, as will Vlasic's deal and Burns' retention, literally only 18.6M on their cap for that year).
@DampfGecko
@DampfGecko 2 күн бұрын
Lindholm should fit very well into Boston's system. Last year's team was a textbook gap year team, it'll be really intersting to see what the B's can do with the "Bergeron light" they already wanted to retool with.
@msalvatore2559
@msalvatore2559 2 күн бұрын
We had no assets to give we already have zero picks and prospects. Considering he’s 33 in center AAV I really don’t mind Lindholm he’s built for the Boston system and they wanted a right shot for Pasta I just don’t think Necas was feasible. The term blows admittedly.
@whatzittooya45
@whatzittooya45 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts on Nashville. Everyone is hyping them up and saying they are now a legit contender. They are being very overrated. Good on them for getting the big names, but I don’t think the contracts are fantastic
@jimmyzarkis6276
@jimmyzarkis6276 Күн бұрын
they are good for the next two years but bad after that. However you win a cup next year or 2nd year, those contracts will look great. You now have multiple cup winners on your team. Lots of playoff experience. That doesn't come cheap.
@thomasjackson1205
@thomasjackson1205 2 күн бұрын
Preds fan introspective here: Skjei is def a long contract for the price, but we needed a SOLID replacement for mcd and honestly Skjei looks to fill that roll. Along with continuing to push stastney on to greater heights our defense just got rebuffed. But our REAL issue is the powerplay and scoring goals. we were 15th last year which is by no means bad but we didn't score goals when we needed it most. We had a TON of capspace to fill, and even with our DEAD cap we managed to pull 2 40 goal scorers. One of which could potentially boost our PP to top 10 ideally. Is stammer expensive? yes. But i see the extra money as a tax to make sure he came to us and not someone else. He clearly wasn't happy with what Tampa management offered (if i was him me neither) but our extra few million sealed the deal. It's quite clear we are pushing for a cup in the next few years. March was a good deal, and Stamkos will be if he puts up the same numbers. despite the price i think they were good signings and at least on paper, we nashvillians are quite happy. Just cause the price is large doesn't mean it wasn't worth it, plus we had plenty of money to go shopping
@Sw4ggB055
@Sw4ggB055 Күн бұрын
Mike since you didn't ask what is going on today I'm hoping you're doing ok
@James-kk4jm
@James-kk4jm 7 сағат бұрын
Can’t stand this. The cap floor this and next year are moving up substantially well. These are not overpays. This is why agents don’t ask for dollar amounts they ask for cap percentages when they negotiate.
@antthegamer7813
@antthegamer7813 2 күн бұрын
mike bo grouxl better be in the top 10 best 🙏
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
HAHAHHAHAHA
@aNightly
@aNightly 2 күн бұрын
You should bookmark each section of the video. Like for each player it has a section if you know what I mean
@aapoheikkila5542
@aapoheikkila5542 2 күн бұрын
I would give Zadorov maybe the number 1 spot. Or Tanev
@RBMGD
@RBMGD Күн бұрын
Lindholm is definitely being overpaid, sorry, but hes not that guy anymore, even with Pasta on his side.
@memphissander3512
@memphissander3512 2 күн бұрын
i think the monahan deal is great, Itll help CBJ now, and in the long term. While its a good amount of term to give to an older guy, he can help mentor the younger players, especially centers like Fantilli and Lindstrom, help their 2 way and faceoff game. + johnny hockey
@francisgauthier5063
@francisgauthier5063 7 сағат бұрын
Who tf is that guy 🤦🏼‍♂️😂
@shhhhip52
@shhhhip52 2 күн бұрын
Dumba instantly makes Dallas a substantially worse team
@user-tz6mk4xv5s
@user-tz6mk4xv5s 2 күн бұрын
you are right, Dumbo is just like Nurse, both useless
@jimmyzarkis6276
@jimmyzarkis6276 Күн бұрын
@@user-tz6mk4xv5s nurse has offensive upside. Dumba just has trash all over him in every direction. how a guy that can't get in a bottom 3 pair of d in Minnesota keeps getting moved, now gets paid....what do GM's see in him before he gets to the team?
@OriginalEraDesigns
@OriginalEraDesigns Күн бұрын
@@jimmyzarkis6276RHD tax strike again, Roy and Walker getting attached to teams early created some panic in the room I guess
@Habsfan56744
@Habsfan56744 2 күн бұрын
Barre Boulet is the best signing
@xboltx275
@xboltx275 2 күн бұрын
He could be good with Habs he didn’t fit us in Tampa at all
@Habsfan56744
@Habsfan56744 2 күн бұрын
@@xboltx275 it’s unfortunate to see that happened to a player not fitting in with there original team
@Bruins-vq5ey
@Bruins-vq5ey Күн бұрын
Johnny Gaudreau top 5? No
@Jakebiggs29
@Jakebiggs29 2 күн бұрын
What about Zucker to Sabres
@thunderhammerx2966
@thunderhammerx2966 Күн бұрын
1 year deal; the pay is a little high, but that's sort of the "please sign with Buffalo" tax.
@cam2159
@cam2159 2 күн бұрын
No leafs woo hoo
@DerbyKnowledge93
@DerbyKnowledge93 2 күн бұрын
Loafs
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
The Tanev and OEL deals terms are horrible but the AAV are good for the next 2-3 years.
@cam2159
@cam2159 2 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner they gonna be bad in 3 years that’s why we have robidas island
@DerbyKnowledge93
@DerbyKnowledge93 Күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner need a shockingly bad year for the Loafs, as Hawks have their 1st rounder next draft.
@NolanDonovan-ht7im
@NolanDonovan-ht7im 2 күн бұрын
I think ppl needa watch trenin play a lil
@nicktarnowski7069
@nicktarnowski7069 2 күн бұрын
Great player for 2m
@mcj44
@mcj44 2 күн бұрын
He’s a really good player and would love him on my team, but not at 3.5 million. Hes a high end 4th liner, low end 3rd liner
@mattangel7844
@mattangel7844 2 күн бұрын
I might get some flack for this but this is the most overrated free agent class that I’ve ever seen. I starting watching in 2010 but I was young during those years lol
@thomassheldon2132
@thomassheldon2132 2 күн бұрын
MBonHOLYSHITANOTHERVIDEO
@MikeBartner
@MikeBartner 2 күн бұрын
ITS FREE AGENCY SZN WE ACTIVE
@BlackIjs
@BlackIjs Күн бұрын
Trenin was a good signing imo
@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi
@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi 2 күн бұрын
One thing Id say If the players signed for these amounts It means there were teams PLURAL willing to pay these rates Value is based on the market, not players and agent's whims and beliefs. It is not like the players set these prices and hoodwinked the teams into paying these salaries. There were several teams offering Stamkos 7-9m per year from between 2 - 4 years I have read, so he took four years at the rate that was being offered. Only the term i think is an issue. He is id say a good bet at 8per for 3 years. Also remember the Predators were very good at even strength. with Josi and Forsberg they really needed to find a sniper. Theyve also never replaced Ryan Johansen. The one i think you missed was the Sharks, who have NO chance of making the playoffs, signing Toffoli. The price is fair bit for the sharks it makes NO SENSE!!!! The players you chose i think benefit teams that are aiming high I would also add the worst non signings would be the Rangers who were embarrassed by Florida. With their Cup window bout to slam shut they really needed to do something. Zjad and Panarin are simply NOT playoff performers as they are soft. They needed to sign someone like a Nichushkin (not him obviously)and were silent. Shesterkin will want out soon before he turns into Lundqvist and see his career in tatters.
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