My Week with the 2023 Honda Civic Type R

I spend a week with the 2023 Honda Civic Type R to see what it's like to live with. With 315 hp all going to the front wheels, everyone knows the 2023 Type R was going to be fun to drive. But what is it like to actually daily drive it? Overall, it's a great daily driver as long as you come into it with the right expectations, but there are a few important things to highlight about the experience. What do you think about the 2023 Civic Type R? Thanks to Honda for providing this vehicle to review!
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[@marcomendez7001]

Man those red seats are just straight 🔥

[@mugens2k]

Yes! Been waiting for this one!

[@ClydeFog]

It's a great car at $45k but practically no one can get it for $45k. It's not a good deal at $55k+ before tax

[@dnice362]

You are crazy if you think this is good for 45k. How can I explain to someone I spent 45k for a Honda civic. 35k tops I’d pay for this

[@dnice362]

Also extremely slow

[@mistamaog]

​@@dnice362At most it should've been $40k, but since Honda knows people will pay big money, they jacked up the price. Just like with the Integra type S, definitely not a $51k vehicle

[@raynaldfernandez1436]

@@dnice362you sound broke. What other new car is like the Type R?

[@dnice362]

@@raynaldfernandez1436 sound broke or smart because me or my people would feel completely stupid for wasting 45k on a Honda civic ?

[@fayehall7483]

Glad you sticking to it, you are 1 of my pioneer who caught me on ssm... As always wishes never changed

[@StrongerThanEver84]

Absolutely loving mine. Perfect daily. Got my 1LE for weekends and FL5 for weekdays :D

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Glad you’re loving yours!

[@the27thaxe]

I understand why the comparison is made between the Type R and the Elantra N and as much as I love what Hyundai is doing I just don’t see the Elantra being able to deliver the same reliability long term, especially if modified

[@Marbind]

Is a great value but the reliability issues are there. I had being following the forums/reddit. Every now and then something serious pops up. Right now Im seeing a jump in fuel system issues that require new injectors/fuel pump.

[@BrayZap]

The type R literally has zero exhaust note from factory it makes barely any sound. The elantra N has one of the best sounding stock exhausts I've ever heard

[@Mmb0927]

@@MarbindI have a dct and 24k miles no problem with car what so ever and cars tuned since 5k miles and I beat the piss out this car very impressive car they built

[@antonroux6737]

Hands down the absolute best Type R review on KZbin - extremely helpful, thank you very much

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks, I'm glad you found it helpful!

[@ryanr482]

Great review. I think you really explained well how it drives and how it compares to the competition.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks!

[@Therafester14]

Awesome review Matt! Thanks for all the comparisons! ❤

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks, I’m glad you liked it!

[@Cooperdaleit]

Reminds me of my Mazdaspeed 3 I had. What a joy that car was. Especially after Bolt ons and a pro tune.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

The FL5 CTR and the DE5 ITS are both winners. You can't go wrong with either. If the DE5 didn't exist, I'd consider the FL5. I just love the upgrades and styling of the DE5 a bit more.

[@Marbind]

The DE5 can be bought cheaper than a FL5 too. I have one because of that.

[@CypressRacing]

Agreed. It's taken a while but there's (finally) a lot great options for compact performance...

[@Khaled.3y]

Whats the DE5 ?

[@Marbind]

Integra Type S@@Khaled.3y

[@rZBased]

24 Acura Integra Type S@@Khaled.3y

[@raist315]

I like the CTR and GR, but I'd have to pick the Integra. It just looks amazing, and has the nicer interior.

[@JMast]

It’s a beast. I drove one for a few days and loved it

[@nahalvin]

very informative as always. thank u.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

[@im_an_alvani]

Honestly love the FL5, but the DE5 Type-S really gives me 2003 Acura vibes, especially in the blue. "Competition" is a good thing and I'm glad there are a lot of options now!

[@INumba1Stunna]

Cool that you still drive these amazing rides Matt. Used to watch all the reviews way back. I dont even know which Civic Type R looks better, this or the older gen. They both look sweet in their own way. After getting rid of my MK5 VW GTI, I will forever be a fan of hot hatches. So much fun to drive in a busy city, compared to a bigger sports car I feel. You can just put your foot down and rip around, all zippy, while not looking so obnoxious because they aren't super fast. 😂 Really love that a few companies still offer a fun manual car in 2024. Civic Type R, GR Corolla, VW GTI (or Golf R), Focus RS. Slightly modded, I would love any of those. Such a fun style of driving. 🔥

[@KorasiPKed]

Ive been wanting a CTR since they were brought back with the FK8. I'm finally financially at a point now that i've been graduated and working full time for a few years where I can afford it but just don't wanna play so far above MSRP for a used 2020 or 2021 but I prefer the aggressive styling. Anyway all that to say I'll be pulling the trigger this fall or next years and I'm so pumped and hearing you talk more about the CTRs gets me that much more pumped!

[@looneyyang1326]

You can find fl5 for msrp now. I found 2 already within the last month.

[@quinnregis5141]

Great review!! Many say they would prefer a Elantra N vs Type R or Type R vs ITS etc. I would say drive them 1st, if you can. When I 1st drove the ITS, I was in love. Coming from an AMG, i just love the look and feel of the ITS - much more fun driving experience. Never drove the Type R but I am sure I would feel the same way as I do with the ITS.

[@tolgarupture]

Best review so far.

[@CaptainMcFly1]

Great Video, just subbed. Ah yeah and I going to order mine tomorrow in boost blue, greetings from Germany :)

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks for subscribing! And good luck with the order, I hope it comes quickly!

[@jonathanbarrow5963]

This looks so nice

[@fordmuscleluis9710]

Beautiful red suede on the seats

[@KuyaArbee]

6:35! thank you! the FK9 has some more improvements with the comfort setting!

[@aceofspades6667]

Looks like a blast

[@wbwayne8887]

The FL5 Type R's widebody integration imo, is executed way better than the more tacked on fender look of the Integra Type S. However, I like the Type S rear spoiler more than the Type R's rear wing. If only the Type R had a rear wing delete option.

[@QueTheChaotic]

Hey hey

[@wbwayne8887]

@QueTheChaotic What's up my car enthusiast brother!! 😂 Seems you and Matt both have the GR Corolla as the best driving in the class.

[@QueTheChaotic]

@@wbwayne8887 lol. I was shocked to hear him say that. I’m gonna see what the integra is all about this week.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@QueTheChaotic I'm going to continue to live vicariously through you. 😂

[@QueTheChaotic]

@@wbwayne8887 😆😆😆

[@GT-RTData9]

It’s at point where I’ll see someone driving one of these new sports/performance cars and I’ll be like “wow, they must be rich”.

[@newbwheeler9777]

Congratulations Matt Moran. You are the first journalist in the world to knock the Civic Type R seats. Everyone has an opinion they say…😂

[@MattMaranMotoring]

All I said is they’re a little stiff…didn’t say they were terrible 🤷‍♂️

[@newbwheeler9777]

@@MattMaranMotoring ‘twas all tounge and cheek my friend! Keep up the good work buddy!

[@kcrotary3724]

The fizz! Another James May fan identified! 😂

[@saucey99]

one of the best cars to drive ever!

[@mgobluevictor]

Coming to this video a bit late, but I’m curious if you were spending a lot of time in +R mode when you commented about the lack of obvious traction control. I spend most of my time in Individual mode with the suspension in Comfort because the roads here in Michigan are lousy. When I occasionally put it in +R mode it definitely feels like the TC is much less intrusive. In rain and with my winter tires still mounted I can break the tires loose in just about every gear when in +R…

[@stephenr115]

Hummmm no wonder your thinking about changing out Bullitt! Great review

[@ryanr482]

Having owned a bullit the sound is incredible but the sloppy shifter would make it difficult to be a forever car unless you were just into the nostalgia of bullit mustangs.

[@stephenr115]

@@ryanr482 such things can be fixed. I’m a former Bullitt owner and the look, styling and sound make me regret daily not still having it. Matt is a very practical fellow and perhaps not at an age where a forever car is in the family plan. I’m hoping he might sell it to me! But it is something I doubt we will see again.

[@42PRO]

Like every other car coming out, it’s hard to care when dealers will mark them up by 10k or more.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It’s possible to get any car at MSRP, just gotta find a decent dealer and wait.

[@rayk7612]

Thank you for the informative video! I've been going back & forth trying to decide which new car to buy. For price, practicality and fun, I was thinking the Civic SI which has a wonderful 6-speed albeit a little down on power rated 200 hp. (If only the SI had 220-240 hp). The hot hatches don't have the 'down on power' problem, obviously, but they lack the overall thrift of the SI. Sitting here, I still can’t decide! My local Honda dealer is willing to give me a good deal on a Type R. These 1st World problems make me realize how lucky we are!

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I'm glad the video was informative for you! If you can get a good deal (MSRP or less on a Type R), I'd say take it since it's pretty much zero risk. You either love it and keep it or sell it for an Si and at the very least break even on the Type R, or possibly even make a profit selling the Type R. Even used 2022 Sis seem to be selling for MSRP still.

[@NvSrAgE679]

The Si and the Type R are so very different. I had a 2015 Civic Si and a 2018 Civic Si HFP. The Si severely falls off on the top end. I now have a 2021 Civic Type R and it pulls so much harder all the way through the gear and doesn’t fall off at all. Not to push you into a higher priced car, but the Type R is so much better. My advice would be a 2020 or 2021 after the refresh.

[@chrisr4338]

Does the new civic type r pull harder up top then the integra type s?

[@Angryeddie14]

This car is so good, would love to trade up my ‘04 5spd EX 😂

[@Shono731]

Awesome video good sir! I thought you did a great job on the review!! In January I traded my 2019 fk8 and bought an FL5!! I was one of the few to get mine at msrp!! I have bought quite a few cars from my local dealership and have a great relationship with them!! I love my FL5 and in my opinion it is more refined all around than the fK8!!! Both great cars though for sure! Keep up the phenomenal content always!! 🚙😀👍🏼

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I'm glad you liked the video and congrats on getting an FL5 at MSRP! It's great to hear that with so many people writing these great cars off because they don't bother looking for a decent dealer.

[@jonathene6063]

Elantra type N may be slightly less MSRP now, but I feel long term you'll lose what you saved vs. the resale on the type R

[@ShaiyanHossain]

i also dont like the way the N's looks are even with the facelit, and while its preferrable over the DCT, the manual felt meh

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I’d agree if we were talking about a regular Hyundai, but look at used Veloster N prices. Even a ratty, high mileage one is still $25k and they were under $30k new.

[@himedia5354]

@@MattMaranMotoring agreed 100% Hyundai N cars hold value as they are rare but can be bought at msrp.

[@BrayZap]

​@@MattMaranMotoringabsolutely wrong. The veloster N with performance package was 35k+ they're actually selling for way cheap now and it hasn't even been that long

[@CTF33]

​@BrayZap You sir are the one who's absolutely wrong. Matt is right, the 2019 VN with PP was less than $30k at $29,920 and the 2020 with PP was only slightly more at $30,695.

[@shoresy6951]

Hey Matt, I'm curious to get your opinion on which generation Type R you enjoyed more. Great video!

[@MattMaranMotoring]

This one is definitely the best one I've driven, but I've only driven the American ones, none of the older JDM generations.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

How many countries outside of the US will sell the integra type S?

[@Tigerex966]

The problem is you cannot test drive them for the most part, there are no paper brochures, they are all sold, you basically have to trust internet reviews or put your money down first. I would love to buy a paper printed brochure at the dealership and would gladly pay $5 or $10 for it especially a limited edition sport model like this brochure, heck they can make money on it. Plus picking one up in person, gets you in the dealership next to the cars so a salesman can sale to you instead of the internet. I am surprised dealerships are not using limited edition brochures to get people in the dealerships. Type r type s gr r gti n fans would show up in drives pay ten dollars for it as a collectors item. But you got them. In your dealer speakership to see all of your cars, that stays with them. Now only car shows seem to promote cars with brochures. And a test drive is a must at $50 k year or more loan, or 3 year lease . I mean really? No brochure no test drive $50k+ Not. .dealers are getting cheap and pretending to be green

[@warwid5419]

I think you're the first reviewer I hear saying the seats in the ITS are better than in the CTR.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I’m not saying one is better than the other, it comes down to personal preference. Some people want racing seats, others want something with a little wiggle room.

[@JVette01]

I'm surprised you hated the Golf R so much. I guess the bad throttle response in comfort mode left a bad taste haha. For me, I chose the Golf R 20th because It's a much better all arounder. AWD grip, drift mode, sophisticated DCT trans, feels like more power than advertised (3.9 0-60), way more features, real carbon fiber trim, great handling, proper quad exhaust, nice adjustable suspension (feels like a luxury ride in comfort mode), customizable ambient lighting, every interior/exterior light is LED, and feels worth every bit of $47k.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Like I said towards the end of this video, if you're looking for the most stuff for your money, the Golf R is the clear winner for basically the same money, I agree. And with the manual, it's not a bad experience. It just wasn't as exciting to drive as I felt it should have been considering all the impressive stuff it has. To each their own though, I'm glad you're enjoying your Golf R and I hope it continues to treat you well!

[@JVette01]

@@MattMaranMotoring You're absolutely right. I appreciate the reply. Have a great rest of your day!

[@ToddShaw-om1fv]

Hey Matt, thanks for the great review. I know it’s not usually compared, but for about the same money, (46k) you could get an IS350 F Sport with 311 HP, AWD, NA V6, decent handling, super comfortable seats, Lexus reliability. Thoughts compared to this and its competitors? Thanks.

[@IsaacPoopsAlot]

Then these cars aren't for you, they're for the manual enthusiasts

[@Donarturo650]

Haven’t seen you giggle like this in a while!

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Haha I think I giggled more in the GR Corolla but this came close!

[@Benyo8990]

I have the #5435, put a smile on me everyday.

[@ranss]

Not for nothing, these are dope family/friends cars. Same with the Type S. It’s too bad you have to go through hoops to find it at or close to msrp. Even then, they’re going to have to sell you on nonsense like a warranty you’re never going to use since you very likely have to buy it out of state.

[@systemtrend3194]

These motor's can be modded to generate some serious whp too.

[@keith6360]

WRX fan is now a CTR fan

[@Vijaypall_96]

What else would you get for 45 -55k? Mine would be an Lexus ISF or a Stanggg

[@r3games1985]

Too bad you can't buy one. Super rare.

[@yourmanzach2307]

love the car but i saw someone buy a brand new one for 59k.... screw that. im happy i got a Kona N for 35k. worry free for 100k miles.

[@douglaskrueger357]

The issue with the Elantra N is the disconnected design. The CTR is just a good design all around that will still hold up in 10+ years. Add to the fact that the N interior is blah, makes it not nearly as special as the CTR. Sure the N is 11k less and it shows.

[@DanDiMaggio]

I'm sure these things are monsters but I can't get on board with the piped in sound. And just to clarify, I'm not against piped in sound. In fact I really like it in many cars that need it like the Fiesta ST, Cooper S's, etc., but this one sounds so weird in every video I've seen so far. What's strange is it sounds ok in the new SI but I don't know what they were doing here. Maybe it sounds better in person? But great review as always Matty!

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks! I liked the sound but the good thing is it can always be turned off for those that don’t like it!

[@BrayZap]

Its insane how Acura literally killed this car. The type S looks so much cooler its not even funny how much better of a styling it has over this

[@jonb7597]

Is this car only manual?

[@1anre]

Good to see the car evoking smiles on your face naturally. Your next step is to buy one instead of settling for the Type S

[@Marbind]

The ITS make me smile more than the CTR. That exhaust in sport+ sounds sick.

[@lilrockstarrs]

Cool cars but I still can’t believe how expensive these boosted new 4 bangers are getting lol

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It’s mostly just inflation, running it through the calculators it’s only slightly more expensive than the last gen. It’s just that wages haven’t kept up sadly.

[@GERONIMO326]

One of the greatest cars ever made, it and the FK8 and now the Type S. Have no clue why anyone would pick a GR Corolla over any of those vehicles. The Type R is faster, way better interior, better shifter and steering feel, the best seats in the game, more aftermarket support, more practical, reliable as all get out. It's PROVEN. I just don't get the hype behind the cheaply made Corolla.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

You gotta drive one to understand I guess. Rear-biased AWD, a peaky motor that reminds you of the Evo/STI days of rally machines for the road. You're right that if you're not interested in AWD the Corolla is worse on paper, but it ends up transcending the sum of its parts to be a really special experience.

[@GERONIMO326]

@MattMaranMotoring I can respect your opinion. However, the rear biased awd system, doesnt help the car rotate as much as it does push the car into understeer on track when pushed hard.The car felt a tad bit underpowered to me and was not eager to rotate at the limit. No oversteer at all, just grip for days (everything was off). I was getting more oversteer in the FL5, believe it or not, (by doing the pedal dance). The CTR felt like it was in a completely different league to me on track than the GR.

[@JMast]

U get your monies worth with this year

[@eyalschnider]

looks like real car…not robot with turbo and a lot of hp…type r vs megane rs(without realibility…)?

[@KrGsMrNKusinagi0]

sad the new cars its against are twice as powerful.. so its kinda not the good ole days.. still a cool car

[@MTater_]

I can’t say I agree with your weather statement, any car will perform worse in slippery weather with summer tires so as long as you get proper winter tires on this thing there should be no issues driving in the snow. Not saying it will outperform a GR Corolla, Golf R or another comparable AWD vehicle in the snow but if this was a Mustang or a RWD front engine car with a lot of power then I’d agree no matter the setup it won’t perform too well in winter.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Summer tires are made to handle rain, sure it won’t be as good as dry, but summer tires are not a valid excuse to have bad grip in any car as long as it’s within the tire’s operating temps.

[@MTater_]

@@MattMaranMotoring I own a Veloster N and there’s been a few times in wet summer conditions on the Pirelli P Zeros I’ve lost a bit of traction with slight acceleration while turning the wheel but I have amazing traction and zero issues driving in snow on my winter setup with my Continental Viking contact 7’s

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Not to be annoying but those Pirellis are crap, I agree the wet traction in those is terrible. But there's better summer tires that grip really well in summer rain.

[@RoxUnlimited]

Even if I had the extra money I just love the Elantra N way more. Especially the stock exhaust

[@Marbind]

As long as you are good with dealing with warranty. Good for you. That 2.0T N engine fuel system is starting to give headaches. The money Hyundai saved with lower grade parts is showing up now with issues.

[@BrayZap]

That's what I was saying. The civic type R literally had zero exhaust note somehow its so disappointing. The N cars have the best sounding exhaust of any 4 cyl turbo car

[@Marbind]

@@BrayZap Agree. I just find very annoying the weekly posts of people having trouble with fuel system or dct that need a replacement. For that reason I removed it from my to get list.

[@Mmb0927]

@@Marbind I have a 22 dct model and have 24k miles with no issues and car is tuned 5 yr 60k miles bumper to bumper warranty I mean if something goes wrong it gets fixed

[@parrou3]

I think it misses the AWD , what do you think ?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

AWD would be interesting in this, but it would lose some of the traditional hot hatch fun of front wheelspin.

[@reddhole3422]

Do you prefer the Type R/Type S or the manual 3.0 Supra for spirited backroads driving?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Totally different experiences. I personally enjoy RWD driving dynamics a little more so I’d probably go Supra if practicality and price differences weren’t a concern.

[@Marbind]

Obviously the Supra 3.0 is a superior car. Is in another league.

[@reddhole3422]

@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks for the feedback. I've been watching your video since the Suburu WRX Fan days. There is one manual Supra at dealers within 100 miles from me! These cars are like unicorns unfortunately. Integra Type S may be the only option based on availability of these cars without paying a ridiculous mark-up.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

@@reddhole3422 Thanks for all the years of support! I've done road trips to buy 4 out of my last 5 cars, it's a lot of fun! If you have the time, I'd expand your search radius to make sure you get the best deal possible and get the car you really want.

[@2aenthusiastshallnotbeinfr273]

I'm in the Process of buying one of these! I got the money and I'm gonna be cashing it instead of loan it I hate loans! I'm gonna pay it cash! But before that I'm gonna be selling my 2017 Honda Pilot AWD I hate SUV! I'm gonna be buying this car because I needed something that is California Legal since I lived in Texas I can't visit my relatives in California with my 900WHP Mitsubishi Evo X or my 1250HP Nissan Skyline GT-R R-34 because they are illegal in that state since I don't have cat converter on those cars they're deleted and their Specs are illegal as well they are built for Racing! So I needed something that is California Legal and at the same time with descent enough power and torque since my Ford F-150 and my 2017 Nissan Titan V8 are gas eaters and they're only my workhorses that hauls trailers and my tools for my everyday jobsite. For my personal commuting vehicle this Honda Civic Type R is well adequate enough. It's got descent power! 315hp is good enough since the car is so lightweight and I'm surprised! It's got Torque! 308! Not bad!!! I'm gonna be picking up mine next week! But still I'm gonna keep my Mitsubishi Evo X and my Nissan Skyline R-34

[@superc910]

For me, this is a car that i have to force myself to like. With that being said, honda tripping with the styling. Just plain. Not a fan of this. The type s though looks sharper. Most definitely would take the integra over the civic

[@Tigerex966]

GTI anniversary?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

GTI isn't nearly as sporty as this.

[@Tigerex966]

@@MattMaranMotoring I would think not for $20k less but is it 90%

[@MattMaranMotoring]

@@Tigerex966 eh I personally would say it's maybe about 75% of the fun.

[@Tigerex966]

@@MattMaranMotoring thanks. About 75% the cost seems fair. On the street. Track no contest at all. Type S versus anniversary not including markups😊

[@the0therst1g]

All these reviews are great, but this car is not worth the $30k markup dealers are putting on them. For $90k (Canada) there are MUCH better options. Dealers keep loaning these out to reviewers to sing it's praises. At MSRP, yeah it's a great car for the value, but good luck getting one at that price.

[@BrayZap]

The civic type R literally has zero exhaust note somehow its so disappointing. The N cars have the best sounding exhaust of any 4 cyl turbo car

[@KeepHammering117]

Reminds me of a car 😂

[@psewgobind]

Did extreme driving in 3 major snowstorms with 2023 Elantra N on Kumho all-weather tires (245/45/18) and it makes a case against GR Corolla.

[@oscarramirez7856]

Nice car but the MSRP is $44K+ & $10K+ Markup (extortion) + dealer installed options...Honda knows that dealers are doing this and it does NOTHING to stop it . I left the brand and I am never going back...I can't believe that a Japanese company allows their dealerships to take advantage of consumers...shame on you Honda... I wonder what would Soichiro Honda and Takeo Fujisawa would think about destroying the reputation of their honorable company by using this type of extortion to take advantage of their loyal consumers...

[@djsir901]

Am I crazy for choosing the WRX over ALL of these cars? I was OUT on the WRX until I saw the tuning potential. 300HP with just a OTS tune, no aftermarket parts needed... 350+HP with just a intake and exhaust... and the premium WRX can easily be had for $30K, no markups.

[@leozz8074]

Definitely not crazy. I chose my VB WRX over a GR because it was 12k cheaper and is making 310 whp with just an intake and OTS tune which cost $1100.

[@djsir901]

@@leozz8074 exactly. I have a VA WRX so I already have a accessport. I also emailed cobb and they said they said they will reprogram my accessport for the VB WRX for $100. All I need to make 310+whp is a intake. And the car is $12k - $15 cheaper than a GRC.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I'd really like to try one of these modded WRXs to see if it's as good as I've been hearing. I wasn't impressed with the stock powertrain.

[@Marbind]

Depends on your priorities. I picked an ITS because it was a more complete sport compact car. My second choice would be a Corolla GR but that backseat was too small for the family.

[@leozz8074]

​​@@MattMaranMotoringI agree, they aren't super impressive stock. The GR, ITS, and CTR are way more impressive cars, but I need AWD for our long winters and a decent backseat for kids. The WRX checked all those marks for me at a good price! You're welcome to drive my car sometime if you come out west or I ever come back to Pittsburgh to visit family. Also, check out @StreetInspired1. He is a PA guy with a nicely modded VB. Thanks for all the great reviews Matt!

[@Yob126]

The piped in sound is terrible..

[@skip741x3]

Pretty awful...its the 1st thing most auto enthusiasts would disable....

[@darrenprior6339]

Awesome car but my God! That fake engine note is one of the worst sounds I've ever subjected my ears to. Sounds like a swarm of bees in a funnel.

[@jauxed]

Type R is more appealing.

[@chrisiden1]

lol that looks like Joe Raitis White Honda!

[@BrayZap]

Idk how people pay this much money just to have less power than a used mustang ecoboost. Literally a 30k used mustang ecoboost fully loaded with performance pack will kill a Type R while looking better and having a better interior.

[@blueberrycobbler]

But then you would be stuck with a Ford😴

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Cool car, but it’s not that cool even at $50k, and especially not for anything over that. It’s a FWD 2.0T Civic. Yes, it handles. Yes, it’s “rarer”, but it’s still “Civic”. Don’t get me wrong, I think 2.0T FWD cars are a blast to drive. I mean, I own one (2017 MK7 GTI 6spd). But I also bought my GTI brand new in 2017 for $23k! That is literally 1/3 the price of what these FL5 CTR’s are selling for, and I guarantee I would be able to punch my GTI as fast through a canyon l, than those buying these FL5 CTR’s! I’m not trying to say my GTI is as good as the CTR. I know it isn’t. But it was 1/3 the cost NEW! The FL5 CTR, as cool as it is, is way overpriced! May I also add that my MK7 GTI is ~400whp/420wtq currently, and it didn’t cost me that much to get it there either. Just saying.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I guess it’ll take most people a while to adjust to the new prices post-inflation. This is basically the same price as the 2017 Type R when you do the math.

[@silentvalue]

I have the exact same setup 2017 mk7 6mt, and even with the suspension mods....rs3 bushings, bilstein, rear sway, deadset kit, 200 or 300 tw tires, i feel like my car still couldn't hold a handle in the turns to either an fk8 or fl5. Gearing is trash on the 6mt gti as its too long. I like my car as it's still very clean and paid off, but the de5 and fl5 are very nice cars. People put too much emphasis on a badge name (civic) and not enough on the merits of the vehicle itself.

[@clemnewton9007]

??? Who's type r is it another you tuber ??

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It’s Honda’s corporate car. Most of the cars I review come straight from the manufacturer.

[@realbeetlejuice]

I know, I know, save the manuals.... but I'd love to see these offered with the option to get Honda's 10 speed auto for those would do not want/can't drive a manual but would want this car.

[@nmode22]

The price is still off. 43k is a little silly if you ask me. I see 38k after driving both the Elantra N as a big win for what you get and price. Still a nice car though.

[@realbeetlejuice]

Oh snap, Elantra N is THAT much less expensive? Oh hell yeah I'd go for the Elantra N as well!

[@jjukjkjiok7782]

good, but not good for the price. Car is worth $3k-$5k more than the manual elantra N at most and that's a stretch at 37k$

[@briangasser973]

When you sell it in 3 years, look at residual values of the CTR vs Elanta N. It is not hard to guess which one will hold their value.

[@dnice362]

Couldn’t agree more

[@jasonbussey100]

@@briangasser973not when you consider the buyer paid $10,000 or more over sticker

[@jjukjkjiok7782]

@@briangasser973 perhaps, but then the second owner overpaid for a used civic type R, that's all that happened. His cost of ownership will be way more than a used elantra N. The upshot is that, residual values being high are due to this car being limited production and so expensive to begin with that more people are forced to buy it used. That is artificial of course, they could simply make more units like competitors such as the golf R do. If the integra type S was the same price as golf R and the civic type R was 37$ k, those would be fair prices in my book

[@ryandonoghue1703]

​@@jasonbussey100yep which Is the problem. dealer isn't going to care about markups when they buy it back. you're already 10k in the hole with the CTR.

[@jjmunz7718]

Companies in America need to continue building turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well as naturally aspirated car's. BANN ELECTRIC CAR'S IN AMERICA

[@BN99239]

I really did not like the CTR. I haven't driven the Acura variant, but this one just feels really bad around the corners when I drive it super hard. The front definitely still has way too much power than the tires and suspensions can handle and I can definitely feel a ton of torque steer. I can go like 90% and it's great but at close to 100%, it's just very uncomfortable to take those corners.

[@hanswurst6742]

wtf no sound? What has Honda done

[@davet4580]

Much better than GR Corolla

[@boots_n_coots]

I paid 10k over. Nevertheless, I am happier than a hog in his wallow. Go ahead… flame away… got my asbestos shorts on 😂

[@ralphthebulldog5163]

Such a chav car

[@racer247]

Since when is 22mpg Great for a 4 cylinder 😳.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

When it has 315 hp…

[@racer247]

@MattMaranMotoring the same 22mpg in the Golf R was bad in your review it also has " 315 hp ...". 😅🤣😂

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It was bad in the Golf R because it's rated higher, so it underperformed what VW says it should do, and it's also bad because that was with the car driving around in its regular mode that never wanted to downshift and was essentially lugging around at 2k the whole time. I drove the Type R way harder and still got the same MPG. That's why the 22 mpg is more impressive in the Type R.

[@racer247]

I just watched a video of the heavier Golf R destroying the Civic from a roll. While getting the same or better MPG with AWD drive train losses. And thought your comments were Funny. 😅🤣😂

[@Marbind]

My ITS did 31MPGs driving 7hrs back to home from the dealer @75mph.

[@user-pm1fs1dk5j]

Type S is for tarts. Purists want the type R. Simple’s

[@bj10jgo]

Moronic comment when they are exactly the same cars..

[@dnice362]

Sounds terrible

[@RoMeeHang]

That Elantra is ugly as hell, with terrible aftermarket support and will depreciate really fast since it's a cheap Hyundai that no one want, just like the Tiburon and the Veloster.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Wrong, Veloster Ns are barely depreciating.

[@RoxUnlimited]

Terrible take. Used VNs with tons of miles on them still going for barely under original MSRP

[@skip741x3]

Have you seen the remade elantra front end for 2024? I agree, the previous version was homely but the new bodywork made a an ugly duckling into a swan

[@venussavage]

I enjoy your quality content. But, please, I hope one day you'll realize that torque steer is a bad thing. It's not fun or engaging or the "opposite of a brainless interaction." It's the chassis being overwhelmed by too much power -- and not in a good way. Torque steer sucks. It always has, and it always will. Please stop extolling its virtues.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I understand that torque steer has traditionally been a negative trait, but as the times have changed and stuff has become more sanitized and "perfected", I think these days it adds a little bit of excitement versus something that perfectly puts down power with no drama. A lot of great cars throughout history have been loved because of their flaws, that's often what gives them some character.

[@billlyle8539]

Great comment Matt! Way to share some insight on what it's like to drive a present day FWD car like this one. I'm 100% sold on this Type R!

[@racer247]

Slow as molasses and bad gas mileage 😅🤣😂

[@williamsilvajr7009]

Yeah. 170 top end is so slow. 🤔

[@racer247]

@williamsilvajr7009 " 170 top end " in 3 or 4 minutes, it never hit that in the longest straight on the Nurburgring. lol