Mysteries Revealed: "Ghetto" Talkbox

[@Tigerman1143]

Damn dude. 11 years and this is song still gets stuck in my head every once in a while. You've been a legend to me since I was about 16

[@ItsTommiii]

For me it was when I was 13 haha.

[@artrouge1270]

@@ItsTommiii same ! hahahahahahaa

[@roadcommander132]

years later, still lovin that jam at the end! funky, funky licks. damn.

[@lukecinto]

Along all the technical capabilities that Moot Booxle posesses, I must say he also impressed me with his keyboard riffs and the way that he understands and performs music. He is a talented keyboard player as well. Thumbs up!

[@zzzzzzzzap]

The return of the (keyboard) king. First class video as always sir. Your understanding of this technology is obviously immense which makes your posts so enjoyable to watch. For me, I'm confused enough using my microKORG. Keep up the good work, and less video vacations please :)

[@guitarfreaktx]

I'm really surprised I haven't heard of you till now, you are pretty awesome. I've watched this vid a ton of times (along with talkbox christmas) just to listen to the end when you compare the ghetto and the good one cuz you just make both sound so great.

[@lilsoto777]

your my favorite talkbox dude on youtube, you should play some mc magic, it would be real easy for you cause your amazing with the talkbox. Keep it real and bro

[@Relics420]

There was surprisingly little difference between the two. We could most definitely hear you well when you were using the ghetto box. Thanks a lot for the informative tutorial Moot!!

[@SaltyTank07]

I have listened a few more times, and that is one of the most sick licks I have ever heard! Keep it up Moot!

[@rars0n]

That was one of the coolest talkbox demos I've ever seen. The ghetto one sounds pretty good, for a ghetto talk box, but you're right, there's no comparison to the better one.

[@icecold5x]

This thing is the real deal, y'all! Sounds good, even from 2007. Like a historical document, blast from the past. I like it, Moot! Keep 'em comin'. Also 3:53 is what you came to hear!!

[@GreatLange]

I experimented with it for a while and I found that the raw sawtooth is the best (and for some reason the lower frequencies sound a tad nicer when done right).

[@narutog]

after years after i found still video , still playing this funking tunr

[@anewgroove]

this is a great video Moot... I'm glad you show everyone the real deal about the Ghetto Talkbox and a real talkbox... and you sound good homie!!! Mister Groove

[@mootbooxle]

The plumbing section of Lowe's. It's the WATTS yellow color coded stuff...a 1/4" bushing and a 3/8" hose barb. But if you can use the outside threads, do it - you get more SPL that way.

[@machiwoomiapoo]

I sure love that funky song at the end.

[@basharcali]

Man I really like the beat and the melody that you play on this one. Good shit man!!!

[@manb4war]

Let haters hate it's what they're good at. Thanks for the info. I built my own ghetto talkbox, made a few changes. Instead of a pvc cap I used a pvc threaded cap, I stuffed the inside with a few foam curlers to absorb some of the sound. Since I'm not a top notch solo on keys it was pretty fun to make and I can even see myself improving the design. Thanks again it was a really fun project.

[@drcidd8153]

I keep coming back to this video so much. I bet I account for at least 1,000 of the accumulated views.

[@luiswega]

duude thats the best video ever man ! The jam at the end... bro you got mad skills

[@SaltyTank07]

WOWOWOW I like the little lick where it cuts in and out. awesome. I have never heard anyone do that before with a talbox. A "killswitch effect".

[@jimmyrich1]

Are you kidding me!!! your playing is amazing!!! I would love to see some tutorials on improv keyboard playing, you are incredible

[@mootbooxle]

Thank you! Much appreciated! Yeah....hopefully it won't be 5 more months till the next one! Working on getting some better video equipment too.

[@darkhurd]

LOL! Moot I've been on vacation ALL summer! This is so awesome! Its like i told you before...YOU ROCK DA BOX!

[@SouloDoloMusic]

lol. looks like you got better. not only with quality but the talkbox its self. good job man. off the hook music

[@TrueSoreThumb]

Great advice! I should look up 'tensioning' or 'striving' chords-- from my music theory classes, the only one I vaguely remember I think is the II chord..

[@mootbooxle]

Partly, it depends on the frequency response of the driver - you need a midrange driver that goes down to at LEAST 500Hz...I'm pushing 40w RMS into mine, and it's more than plenty. Just make sure you match the impedance between driver and amp.

[@gir]

You're really good at playing the talkbox.. every note you played was totally in time, and yes there is a large difference there between the two.

[@mootbooxle]

@gnrfanatic141414 That's weird! I know the sound you're talking about though - the only time that's happened with my drivers is when I've just got the volume too loud! Usually, if I get that "barking" or "flexing" kind of sound, that's my cue to turn it down! Do you run your talkbox pretty loud?

[@PowerRider16]

wow you're good with the talkboxes! i just finished my ghetto talkbox, and now i see this! show us how to make the good one!

[@mootbooxle]

Thanks my brother! Thanks for looking!

[@TrueSoreThumb]

I agree-- your normal ghettobox sounds superb just because of all that practicing you did with the one you wanted. :)

[@cassnate6259]

I honestly found it amazing how well the ghetto talk box held up to the real deal! I made my own today, but I think my computer speaker is too weak because it's pretty quiet. Maybe I went a little TOO ghetto.

[@blickblocks]

Wow, you're really awesome at the talkbox! I'm going to practice with mine this summer.

[@etfoshizzle]

Coming back to this after all these years wow!

[@mootbooxle]

amazing! I thought of this video for the first time in years today, and then you leave a comment on it! crazy how time flies.

[@mootbooxle]

Hey dude - you can def. use a DX-7. I used it before I got the 100. You can make the same sounds with it, it's just a little harder to program.

[@mootbooxle]

The 'real' talkbox is a horn driver - it's the part that pumps the sound into the horn on the top of a PA speaker. It's completely airtight, and it works with air compression...you can feel the air coming up the tube when you play a loud sound through a good talkbox. So I guess the answer is yes! Thanks for looking.

[@mootbooxle]

Eriatarka is my fave Mars Volta song. You hit it right too - you see where my weird improvisation took a turn for the worse! LOL!

[@AndyCam72]

wow.. i'm blown away by your videos and performance!

[@magp123]

at 04.00..soooooooo funky!!!one of my favourite talkbox solos ever!! thx!!!

[@ImSuchaGamer]

Damn man you are extremely naturaly tallented at this. Theres no way in hell id be able to make a quick tune like that on the top of my head just to show the diffrence of the talkboxs

[@gijsyo]

Man that sure sounds funky Moot! The real thing definitely sounds better but the ghetto thing ain't bad esp for the money spent. Thanks for the great vids.

[@scottizzlish]

i have a rocktron banshee and cannot get it to sound good on a keyboard. it seems like too much of the keyboard sound is getting through or something and i can't understand at all what i'm saying

[@lukecinto]

Now I am getting confused :((( The 150W driver was too quiet to hear a reasonable sound from the tubing... even when connected to an amplifier.. then it blew.. Then I tried the ghetto version.. with the same result - almost no sound at all, even though the speaker is well isolated.. what could possibly go wrong? :(((

[@Binford2500]

okay the ghetto sounds real good for a bunch of thrown together parts but the real one sounds siiick!! so much clearer, defined, and full!

[@mootbooxle]

goodness! What driver and amp were you using? You also need to make sure that the impedance (ohms) on your amp matches what's on the speaker. It really shouldn't cause all those kinda problems!!

[@MrHitTheRoadJack]

i think that you could get some cool sounds out of the ghetto box and that i could find a couple things to use it for but i play guitar and idk if it would work out lol

[@cassnate6259]

I do hear quite a bit of noise from the "box" itself. Should I duct tape more? Any other ideas? thanks!

[@mootbooxle]

East part - originally Greeneville, but grew up in Morristown.....I still miss the more temperate climate, even if there isn't all that much snow. A little is better than nothing! All I got down here is heat, humidity, and heat and humidity!

[@mootbooxle]

Mellotron! WHERE???? If a Mellotron sneaks into my studio during the night, I will take the next week off from work so I can give thinks to God 8 hours a day! That's a Wurlitzer 206 that you see there.

[@tothejazz4828]

the wurli is next to the mellotron right?

[@drezone]

Mr Booxle! I'm with U on the CZ range, based on "merry Christmas", I now refuse to use anything other than my CZ-101 that I've had for nearly a decade! I always thought the carrier sound would define the talkbox sound. Does ghetto mean U're usin' standard speakers other than the hose linked directly to the driver? CZ over DX anyday for Talkbox - Identity man!

[@musicalmiller]

hey moot i cant get any real words (consonants) out of my ghetto talkbox. its very airtight. the sound is loud. i use a 1/2 inch-ish tube. should i be using a smaller one?

[@heyyjoshh]

Does the horn driver need any power to work? or does it work by just plugging it in?

[@taxman806]

Just built a nice talkbox. I did some research and found the same driver you use and bought parts from the local hardware store to complete. Now, all I need is to find a good talkbox synth or figure out what patch to use from either my Yamaha Rack ES synth, Triton Extreme or my Roland XP60. Any suggestions?

[@choicemc]

That's nice dawg!...ur videos tell u what to get, but not how to put it all together. Help a brotha out Moot!

[@coolio49085]

Hey man could you do a tutorial on how to make the non ghetto talk box. I would like a more distinguishable sound. Thanks

[@PHILGSTYLE]

I need help I'm trying to find a comparable key board to use with my hail talk box i cant find cz5000 or a yamaha dx 7 can you give me some feed back on what other key board will be compaable I would surely appreciate it

[@mootbooxle]

For real man! The CZ is the bizness! I have a confession to make tho - the "Merry Christmas" vid was made using the big modular! I was just controlling it with that Casio...!

[@mootbooxle]

Thanks bro! Can't wait to see a new RTjman vid!

[@thevisionary2007]

I caught every word of your ghetto test, no problem. And I thought it was pretty good sound, too. It had a subtly to it, while still being its own thing. If it has enough strength for live performance, it would prove its relevence.

[@watcheruss]

Awesome! Soooo funky! More vids like this, Moot! Please.

[@Tigerman1143]

Ghetto: "This is my ghetto box. I don't think it sounds good. No it don't. This is my ghetto box. I don't think that it should. Well, can you understand me, yeah? I don't think that you can. Can you understand me, yeah? I don't think that you ca-a-aan. I don't know how you could, because the sound isn't that good no it's not." The Good Talk Box: "Well, this is the good one. The good talk box. I think it sounds better, don't you. Well I think it sounds real nice, don't you yeah? Well I really really like it. I think it sounds real nice."

[@drumsforever101]

I got a question. Why not just use better quality speakers for the ghetto talkbox? It for sure would sound better

[@lukecinto]

I used a Rockwood driver along with a JVC 15W amplifier. And I also found that the tubing absorbs some of the the sound waves and makes the sound dissapear. What length do you propose it should be? With a temporary setup I finally kinda made it work, although still too quietly. and I found it hard to pronounce some of the consonants properly.. does the diameter of the tube make a big difference? And where do you suggest positioning the end of the tube in the mouth ifself?

[@suzukirizla11]

Explain me.. Must I sing for use the talkbox?? because I can't sing sorry for my engish

[@Kraftewerk]

hey I like all your videos on this video what kind of driver was that i seen you had the EV1823m driver on one of your videos. which one do you like better?

[@roadcommander132]

You got some killer chops, Moot!!

[@plugexpert]

does the quality of the speaker and the amount of air-tightness contribute to a better sounding talkbox, or are there some secret compartments in your better sounding one? great stuff!

[@murcielago1029]

thats awesome!!! I love your stuff, man. so are you singing into the talkbox or are you just talking and the synth keyboard does the rest?

[@burrito873]

moot, your stuff is the jam.

[@mootbooxle]

well, there was only one ghetto talkbox! I'm basically comparing the one seen in the Ghetto Talkbox how-to video with the one heard in the "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" video.

[@heyyjoshh]

if i had an 80watt driver, would it work with a 15watt amp?

[@manb4war]

OK, another subject what sound are you using specifically? Some say sawtooth or sawtooth leads. I have Native Instruments FM8, I'd like to hear the raw tone to get an idea for which tone is comparably the best.

[@GreatLange]

Seriously I understood every word from the ghetto box. It sounds almost just as good as the pro one, just a little more resonant. Well, I'm off to the Goodwill...

[@danieldwwong]

Dude, can you do this kind of stuff with a Guitar? Like the Vowel and singing?

[@KXFOX]

what exactly did you use to make the good one

[@doogdoogdoogdoogdoogdoog]

You'd have to have a guitar amp hooked up to the speaker being used. The sound comes out of the tube and is manipulated by your mouth- hence you needing to have a mic right next to it.

[@heyitsRyanS]

could i have the old one then?

[@GorillaDesperado]

The problem with your demo is that you're a good musician, and subsequently make lesser instruments sound good. I really enjoy your videos, btw.

[@WalterMelones]

Dude! I thought that now one was store-bought all this time! what's the Grey blob/black base made of? Hey CrazyTexMex04, just use a standard 1/4 inch adapter. You can find them at any music shop, or try radioshack.

[@mootbooxle]

TN originally. Now I'm in SW florida. I don't recommend it too highly LOL! I miss the cold!

[@PHAEDRIDER]

DUDE i am both being educated AND entertained by your videos! thanksss.

[@mootbooxle]

@palgrim I really dig that song. In my opinion, though, the ghettobox can't do that sound. It doesn't have the sound pressure.

[@drmofcali4niktun]

god damn it, i love talk boxes now man... thanks! i gotta get me one, or make one or something. can you show how you made the good one? if you don't mind giving away your secret :)

[@cooljammer00]

they both sound awesome, and you're super funky just singing gibberish.

[@Boompass]

Are there any Amps other than the PA205 that you have used and would recommend for the talkbox?, as I am devoid of knowledge in this field ;).

[@Bobbyeagle]

This is true. They use Vocoders which is often built into a synth like the little one Korg produce. But I think what Lilbrooksy is trying to say is he prefers the sound of the ghetto talk box because it sounds more like Daft Punks vocoder.

[@tupimpx3]

Heay man I try using a getto talk box buy I don't now how to sing in it?,

[@SPAZZOID100]

I just got one but can barely form any words with it.

[@mootbooxle]

It is a lot harder than it looks, huh? Before long you'll be So Ruff, So Tuff with it! Just takes practice. A lot of it. Btw Nord Lead 2x is my preferred talkbox synth these days!

[@SPAZZOID100]

+mootbooxle tough?? Nearly impossible.

[@mootbooxle]

+James Reeno Some tips: Practice going through the alphabet. It's pretty easy for some letters but takes a ton of practice for some of them to come out clear. Pretend like you have laryngitis. The sound coming through the tube provides the pitched tones that your vocal chords normal would, but you have to supply the sounds that your lips and tongue normally do - like "t" "k" "s" "c" "p" etc. The combination of those two things is what forms intelligible speech.

[@pitblvd]

Can we hire you for some studio work in southern cali? Let me know. No demo's, only signed artist. Thanks

[@stupidgenius107]

They both sound good on this video, but the second one does sound a little better. By the way, I have a Casio CZ-1000. It's old, but I love it. I run it through a cry baby wah pedal and a POD 2.0. I'll have to try it through a talk box next.

[@hotlanta71]

man i love talk boxes with synths, kicks the shit out of talk box with guitar

[@gabedom_]

i agree with luigilover48. Could you make a vid showing how you made the real deal talkbox? both sound phenomenal, and the ghetto one could be useful in a pinch. but the real deal is, well, the real deal.

[@cameronharris3345]

where can i get a synth for cheap?

[@ohnevergoingtoquit]

what the best kind of talk box i should try to get im gonna get one for my guitar and i wanna know what i should be out there looking for the guitar g ot is a crome plated bc rich mocking bird and i just made a ghetto box but the speakers i have the only cord that plugs in to anything isnt big enough for my amp do they make any adapters? its liek a headphone jack

[@GreyFoxRamen]

While the "good" box does have a certain clarity to its sound, the "ghetto" talkbox actually has a very appealing buzz in its tone, or so I think.

[@210acer]

i built a talk box from a horn driver like you did, but it did not work, so i'm buyin the roctron banshee talk box.

[@mootbooxle]

basically, the sound from the keyboard comes out of the tube and into my mouth, and it gets picked up by the microphone, and that's what you hear.

[@mootbooxle]

Well, it SAYS 120 watts....that's peak, but it's 40w RMS, which is way more realistic. The horn driver I'm using in this vid is a 40w.

[@boogalooSHAQ]

can you show us how to make a good talkbox??

[@TheMightyKinkle]

when you make the nosies do you have to actually talk or just move your mouth?