Napoleonic Bayonet Sparring - Vali vs Peter [HEMA]

[@yolloswronson9063]

Nice to see you back! I always love to see other 19th and 18th century weapons explored other than sabre and broadsword

[@historyandsabre]

Thanks! Some sword vs bayonet stuff will also be coming up when I get the chance to film :)

[@connormcewen7667]

I've been itching to see some more bayonet videos kicking around! Hope to see more

[@historyandsabre]

Hi, I'll definitely be trying out new stuff whenever I can! :)

[@jasonjames9836]

I missed this one when it first came out and saw your impressions video of the Blackfencer rifle with bayonet simulator. It is interesting, I don't know anything about bayonet fighting of the Napoleonic period but modern bayonet fighting, in many ways looks like longsword half-swording. No butt strokes in Roworth? Some nice exchanges there. Good video. Two thumbs up.

[@historyandsabre]

Hi, great to see you back in the comments dection! There are no techniques described in Roworth at all, it's just sword vs bayonet. Pretty much the same with Mathewson (1805) aswell. Regarding British sources, there is an (almost) complete lack of bayonet manuals around 1800. If you're interested in later 19th century bayonet stuff, Waite (1880) goes into more detail how the bayonet itself is used before he talks about how it counter it with the sword. There are however many illustrations of Napoleonic bayonet combat. My favourites are the plates by Amster and Prinzenberger, you can find those easily via Google. As for butt strokes, I can't and won't categorically say no here but I honestly don't think that's very practical as a basic technique with a slowish and heavy 185cm weapon of around 5kg. You'll see pretty quickly that reach is the only thing you have going for yourself as the bayoneteer and once the sabre or smallsword guy gets past your point, there isn't a whole lot you can do. Cheers!

[@alexandermartzok_vikingcombat]

I really like the clean footwork and posture!

[@historyandsabre]

Thank you, appreciate that!

[@jeremy4655]

Great video! Would you say quarter staff is a good starting point for bayond drills?

[@historyandsabre]

Thank you, yes absolutely! We have only got these two musket simulators at the club so we drill with staffs aswell. In fact, you could use any kind of stick to get used to the footwork and motions.

[@jeremy4655]

@@historyandsabre Great! I have it on my future agenda for when I have developed further with the current systems I am studying :)

[@polymathart]

You should look for one of those old fencing rifles. I’ve seen fencing rifles where the rod will slide into the barrel when it makes contact and then comes back out with the help of a spring. I think there are a few Martini Henry fencing rifles you could find somewhere online. I’d love to see bayonet fencing with real steel.

[@blowgunman4016]

You make another bayonet clip, I want to watch it again.

[@historyandsabre]

Sure, I will! We have been in lockdown unfortunately, so we can't fence at the moment. Won't be until the new year, I'm afraid!

[@blowgunman4016]

@@historyandsabre 😁❤❤❤ I want to thank you very much because these clips are really rare. So I tried to find different clips, history and movements and fights.

[@July__Frost]

Nice! I was recently thinking to suggest my clubmates to test some sabre against bayonet from J.M. Waite book...

[@historyandsabre]

Nice, bayonet fencing is great fun! I've been trying out all kinds of combinations from broadsword and sabre to smallsword even! :)

[@maritimeswordschoolmoncton6513]

This is dope

[@historyandsabre]

Cheers, it's also really fun :)

[@effigytormented]

nice