Nappa vs Madara was Never Close!

[@azrielasamoah2484]

“Do you want these Saibimen to explode or not?”

[@lonkstakes]

LMAOOOO

[@detectiveplays]

@@azrielasamoah2484 OK that's pretty funny

[@MalosiAudios]

“Greeee~!”

[@yuncelluz8709]

😂❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

This is so out of pocket bro..😂

[@e-duh3529]

Madara: give me back the rinnegan, Obito! This is base Nappa's index and middle fingers we're up against

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. LONK'S TAKES DRAGON BALL Z VS NARUTO

[@thereddungeon]

LMFAO

[@VinMann]

Strongest slander in history

[@JoshuaEricSViana]

Goku's sperm wipes.

[@shadymilkman443]

Saying base nappa like he has other forms…😂😂😂

[@yandereneko5523]

ah yes, Nappa and Saiyen Saga Vegeta, the first benchmarks for if your favorite series is considered "strong".

[@adrianmarion4625]

Love how most series tap out at the first - second arc of DBZ. it just shows how dragon ball is in a league of its own

[@yandereneko5523]

@@adrianmarion4625 what i find funny is that the ones that don't, end up going so far beyond the cosmology of DB it is laughable. Edit: or they are some cartoon characters with crazy one-off feats because they are a cartoon, and fighting isn't real the point of the character.

[@vegeta9501]

​Sailor moon cooks DB​S@@yandereneko5523

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

@@yandereneko5523Such as?

[@wilfridekoue1405]

@@thelettucebarrel7784 Popeye

[@lonkstakes]

"Vegeta I dont think I like this Pokemon..." - Nappa, probably

[@cwms0311]

“I wish I caught that chiaotzu so I can weaken it”

[@AntonioRo111]

Oh it used self destruct vegeta, I hate it when they do that

[@rhatala27]

Did you hear that, Vegeta? It's a Chiaotzu.

[@I.disagree]

Chiaotzu vs Madara when

[@8Smoker8]

@@I.disagree aww man Chiaotzu probably has better hax, that's rough xD

[@Handyrandy2233]

Also dosent help nappa has a bag of seeds that when planted,grow into moon busting faster then light little green gremlins

[@SosukeTYBW]

@@Handyrandy2233 don't help that madara has 4 identical clones on a separate plane of existence that have all the abilities of main madara that nappa can't see, sense or interact with

[@Absol125]

​@@SosukeTYBWand what could those clones do? Give tickles to Nappa with the same attacks Madara used in manga?

[@vini6432]

​@@SosukeTYBW still weaker than a saibaman, Madara cant even deal damage to nappa 😭😭

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

I'd say planet

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

​@@Absol125fr lol

[@MalosiAudios]

Damn, Nappa raises two fingers and straight up wipes a lot of anime

[@malekith33]

Goddamn db fans r dum

[@ToniCiprianiX007]

For Madara, he'll only need his middle finger.

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

​@@ToniCiprianiX007glaze

[@Enojoy582]

Its a correct statement dragon ball scailing is ridiculous ​@Bardocks_Fig_Collection

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

@@Enojoy582 um madara isn't even star level or planetary he's fodder

[@Vince-rh8es]

whats wild is this 100% confirms namek saga yamcha wipes the floor with the entire ninja world

[@Fain255]

Hahahahaha

[@draklen2244]

Saiyan saga Yamcha wipes the ninja world. Remember they were all moon level or higher at that point.

[@Himathyyy]

Yamcha is a real ninja

[@teeboz6237]

I hope this isn't based on that filler on King Kai's planet that's irrelevant because it never actually happened in canon? Although you wouldn't need the filler, he was already vastly above moon level in the Saiyan arc.

[@TheBloccobill]

​@@teeboz6237 filler is Canon. Toriyama said it

[@interdimensionalcommunicat9750]

I remember some joke powerscaling video that deliberately wanked Madara to an absurd degree so it can then put Nappa at a higher tier than every other Dragon Ball character because "as we all know the strongest character in Naruto is weaker than Nappa".

[@opadrip]

I need to see this

[@interdimensionalcommunicat9750]

@@opadrip The video is called "Fither and Flair's Definitive Everything Ever Power Level Chart" (not to be confused with the similarly named "The Ultimate Everything Ever Power Ranking" from the same channel) on the youtube channel Fither. A lot of it is just injokes relating to the channel owner's interests so maybe some jokes won't land.

[@BlgD122]

The strongest character in Shippuden is kaguya the Madara statement is fake and irrelevant Madara slams existence erasure+ limbos clones

[@bulletxwound3559]

​@@BlgD122 yeah bro sure

[@BlgD122]

@@bulletxwound3559 im jus speaking fax

[@good8619]

"Madara could just outsmart him" thats like you trying to use your superior Battle IQ to stop a falling Hydrogen Bomb.

[@koolaidsniffer]

Stephen Hawking staring up at a nuclear bomb surviving the blast because he's smart

[@Nova-Franconia]

1945, Hiroshima: “Don’t worry, I know the science behind that thing falling on us. It’s actually quite ingenious, there’s a timer on it to explode mid ai-”

[@WaylonMoone]

More like He can just smite him out, Madara is billions time stronger, His Eyes can break Nappa, Hell his susano took can smite anything in the universe with mostly a swing. Nappy from memory just ripped jet planes apart, Like no one cares thats really nothing.

[@romell06]

​@@WaylonMoonemadara was even having a hard time against 2 teenagers. Lol

[@WaylonMoone]

@@romell06Yeah one being the 9 tails with limitless power and With sage powers, The other one with rinnigan, even the susano which can smite almost anything in the universe, Sorry not sorry, DB fan here, Saying Nappa can kill him is just insane.

[@Dorxiz01]

Seems like Madara can't handle the Colgate Breath of Nappa

[@Aloha_SnackBar]

"BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE LEGENDARY LISTERINE!"

[@revotempo2082]

Wouldn't Madara just absorb it because that literally what he did to all the rasengans and particle style blasts they threw at him.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​​@@revotempo2082 1 they aren't chackra, 2 madara can't comprehend that speed, ki explode alot This is like asking someone if they swallow an exploding nuclear bomb

[@revotempo2082]

@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman rinnegan can absorb more than just chakra. Sage mode is nature energy which pain absorbed using Madara's eyes. Also speed and explosiveness isn't even an issue for Madara. Uchiha reflection is literally just full counter and it's worked on multiple opponents. Also tanking a nuclear level explosion is something that Naruto has done twice once against momoshiki and 2nd was when Toneri used Naruto's own chakra to split the moon. I always find it so odd how people forget that these guys can do these things.

[@SosukeTYBW]

​@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatmanlike they said, rinnegan can absorb more than just chakra so you gotta prove ki is a power source that wouldn't be absorbed by it

[@redcastlefan]

The fact the saiyan race trusts sending low tier *infants* to subjugate entire planets with aliens that are probably stronger and more advanced than humans an elite fully grown soldier like nappa wipes the floor with the whole Naruto verse.

[@WaylonMoone]

Talking about kids, You put them in any verse like Naruto or others, they dying in seconds, Hell Kakorat can dodge lighting but thats feats easy for some kids like Rock Lee who had atleast 1 megaton on one leg while doing extensive Workout. Just sayain

[@JosiahAnderson-ws8ot]

​@@WaylonMooneroshi blew up the moon before that lightning feat and I'm pretty certain Goku was stronger than him by then.

[@WaylonMoone]

@@JosiahAnderson-ws8otAgain, as kids, You put kid goku in any normal series he aint gonna make it, I never seen Goku being bullet proof, Wasn’t he also injured by an AK bullet in super? Sure the bullets strong but it still scratched him. In naruto Kid lee was atleast able to life more then 5 tons knowing he carries 2 tons on his legs everyday for workouts and fight, Lee would kill Goku as a kid in a physical fight, Then You got others lik Maka from soul eater, Hell I dare say even that weird red head from Demon slayer has a shot to kill Goku, You also gatta remember most of those creatures in dragon ball besides sayains or their old rivals were pretty much easy kills that possibly any normal human with weapons and skills could put down. As a dragon ball fan I’m saying any kid sayain can and would die in almost any series or world you put them in.

[@JosiahAnderson-ws8ot]

@@WaylonMoone you really didn't prove your point but aight man

[@th4tevilburrito]

@@WaylonMooneexcept goku was a low class warrior, and you have no information on how a high class warrior saiyan would do as a child sent to stronger planets than earth

[@The_Ghost_King]

The fight ends, and Madara is slowly regenerating. "You can't kill me! I'm immortal!" Nappa grins. "Vegeta! I got us a new sandbag! It repairs itself!" "Dibs!" Vegeta calls out instantly. Madara adopts a look of horror. "I've made a series of terrible mistakes."

[@thch5855]

Otherway around

[@haystackbill6187]

@@thch5855 Cope

[@lssjbroly9477]

@@thch5855Cope

[@WaylonMoone]

@@haystackbill6187Nope, Nappa aint that strong hell Even spiderman can beat him, Didn’t nappa struggle against a giant ant? How is that impressive.

[@Chad-jy9uk]

Madara isnt even immortal, boruto retcons this

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

"But he's immortal tho" Nappa gets a new sand bag.

[@Resonantscythe]

Watch the dungeon soup lich video to see how that would go for him.

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

Nappa gets erased.

[@EverettArmishaw]

No nappa would lift his fingers faster

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Nah

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Nappa a Ninja victim fr Lol lemme stop I haven’t seen the video yet but I saw you here so I had to drop by ofc

[@lazonaasombrosa8688]

New legendary character: Locked in Nappa

[@marcuscrowell6964]

Nappa (Locked In)

[@Jsipki265]

Damn Madara did not pass the vibe test. 😔

[@WaylonMoone]

Exactly, He kills Nappa in seconds, Anyone who says otherwise really don’t know Naruto characters. Nappa aint that strong.

[@elyas2852]

Nappa wins easy

[@JohnMartenez]

​@@elyas2852Why?

[@JohnMartenez]

​@@WaylonMooneW I agree

[@WaylonMoone]

@@elyas2852Nope, Madaras 6D, Check Yourself

[@tetsuosoprano7382]

The idea of Great Ape Nappa in the Naruto verse just made me chuckle out loud

[@shaynehughes6645]

Tailed beasts if they were good

[@ItsAme7143]

I picture a tailed beast trying to hit him and breaking their own arm🤣

[@mrslap1924]

It’s funny how everyone forgets that as an ape Vegeta was taken out by the worst fighter on the planet with a normal sword😂. I think the anyone from the Leaf could handle that lol

[@ARCHER-ch4xn]

​@@mrslap1924 It seems you ignored the Original Dragonball where Yajirobe is absolutely a beast.

[@SosukeTYBW]

He'd get dealt with as easily as any tailed beast, have fun when an Uchiha with decent genjutsu makes him their pet now

[@Someguyfromtheinternet36]

Even if Nappa lost, he could just haunt Madara as Ghost Nappa. "Oh, Veg-I mean Madara!~" "What!?" "I'm haunting you."

[@CrazyAnimeGamer3]

Madara: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[@513gposey]

😂😂😂 what makes it funnier is Madara speaking Japanese

[@vader4786]

He would lose

[@azurephantom100]

he would get fed up with it and use the reanimation jutsu just to be able to tap his mouth shut lol

[@rungunninja1289]

Vegeta: he is your problem now. No take backs. Madara: What!

[@dmareskira8649]

0:59 I’m about to sum up the actual discussion. King vegeta casually blows up multi planets with one wave of a cape. Napa made a whole city a glass floor with two fingers💀.Madara is simply mountain level. The susano and tail beast bombs are shown to blow up mountains in manga.

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

That’s awful downplay of Madara lol clown

[@SaviorEdits]

One Piece fan here, did you just seriously say Madara is Country Level? Stop, just leave and go back to bed kid. It's passed your bed time. 😂😢

[@1BuFo]

Kaguya is confirmed at least star level...and Madara is basically equivalent to her power. Nappa gets dog walked.

[@joaquincortescasas8114]

​@@1BuFoWhen has it ever been stated Madara being Kaguya's equal?????? It has been made very VERY clear by Sasuke that Kaguya's chakra was on a whole other realm of power in contrast to Madara.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Me when i lie ​@@1BuFo

[@giovannicastillo8581]

Nappa may be much more powerful but he's super dumb.

[@Halal_spider_man]

Intelligence doesn't matter if you can rise the middle finger and nuke the area

[@DarkEclipse23]

Id argue he’s more cocky than dumb. He didn’t really start getting serious until kienzan scratched him. He saw the earthlings as infant cavemen.

[@giovannicastillo8581]

@@DarkEclipse23 I bet that that's exactly how they were perceiving HIM, just some big Neanderthal bullying planets calling himself chief of the Saiyan army.

[@malekith33]

@@giovannicastillo8581 he isn't much more powerful, he's just dum

[@Raymond-v5t]

​@@giovannicastillo8581The people that think madara can win is even dumber than nappa

[@detectiveplays]

Marada is getting cooked by Nappa

[@thch5855]

Make nappa thousands times stronger than he is and still not beating madara

[@detectiveplays]

@@thch5855 Nappas already stronger So if he's thousands of times stronger it's a even bigger wash

[@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768]

@@thch5855 nappa solo the vers

[@reallyhimongod]

@@thch5855you m0r0n edit this

[@kamitaku4548]

Limbo+TSO combo should just one shot nappa tbh.

[@Nemesislord001]

Bruh the Naruto fandom have lost it to even think the Naruto verse can even scale to the DBZ verse

[@sharks4fun40]

I once met someone who said a team of madara sasuke and naruto can beat vegito buutenks buuhan and ultimate gohan with no sweat 😭😭

[@bulletxwound3559]

​@@sharks4fun40 damn I need whatever they're smoking lmao

[@Kokomi552]

​@sharks4fun40 WTF?! Not one of them boys is getting past saiyan saga Vegeta & they think those monsters were getting beaten???? Absolute insanity 🙏😭

[@sharks4fun40]

@@Kokomi552 a wise man from a rap once said:we’ve been fathering these [redacted] like a foster.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

a good writer probably can make that work.

[@superzilla784]

Madara: I'll cast an illusion. Nappa: I'll cast one too. it's called "Fire and Death Everywhere" oh wait, I don't need to fake it. I can just do it right now! *Lifts fingers upwards, causing a 1000 nuke worth explosion at his feet*

[@jordanjackson8873]

Madara can wipe out a country on accident and destroy the planet. The ten tails first form in its incomplete state was small planetary and they showed it on screen. Not only did it transform, but Madara is stronger than Juubito before he even becomes the complete jinchuriki which is like 4 amps being stacked on top of each other that multiply. He's far beyond planetary.

[@rythianlonghammer5263]

The genjutsu in Naruto can get pretty hard to deal with, funnily enough. Like, Itachi uses a genjutsu on another member of the Uchiha clan, and she lives out an entire life in the illusion and dies of old age inside of it, which causes her to actually die. That illusion was only seconds long in the real world.

[@Eliras24]

@@jordanjackson8873 Nope. 10 tails have continental feats, not planetary. Is clearly stated and shown that Kaguya is at that level, not madara, and when she took after Madara's body her power incresed significantly

[@neffos713]

​@@rythianlonghammer5263if i recall genjutsu using sharingan is not possible on other people outside of naruto because it's use chakra flow in the body , and im sure ki doesn't have the same stuff because i didn't remember if anyone in dragon ball did it

[@rythianlonghammer5263]

@@neffos713 That argument is dumb as shit, though. That's like saying Asta can disable Quirks or Ki-based abilities because he has Anti-Magic. No, that is not a joke, I have heard and seen people scrambling to use Asta's Anti-Magic as a magic bullet for anything and everything, despite the only thing it does being right there in the name.

[@bigyoshi5170]

“Was it ever close? Was it ever the real Madara or Nappa that appeared here? Oh wait that is the real Napp- *gets one punched* “ -Sōsuke Aizen

[@raphaelph52]

Your comment was part of my plan

[@malekith33]

Both madara and aizen embarrass nappa btw. Literally one shot him

[@KodexKat]

@@malekith33rage bait

[@Aurelius1239]

​​@@malekith33Ok I was taught to respect people's opinions no matter how asinine they are

[@randomyoutuber2633]

​@@malekith33 Aizen can beat Nappa, Madara gets clapped.

[@fd2315]

0:25 I also remember that someone once told me that Kishimoto once said in a interview or something that Raditz can beat anyone in Naruto with moderate difficulty 💀

[@nirjhar4803]

Kishimoto damn near more misquoted than Einstein💀... Especially during that era of cross-verse powerscaling..

[@CasualCat64]

Can he?

[@EmperorChrollo]

⁠@@nirjhar4803He made the series so I don’t necessarily think power scaling matters, especially when you realize that the majority of Naruto characters are continental at max and have to rely on a genjutsu to actually win 😅 Not to mention, with the difference of how Ki flow and chakra network, theirs a pretty high chance that it wouldn’t work anyways.

[@debreceniszabolcs8494]

My headcannon is that Great Ape Nappa would be caught in the Infinite Tsukuyomi since only those with Otsutsuki blood & SixPaths chakra are know to be immune to it because that ability is considered a Shinjutsu. Also those without chakra or possesing different life energy are affected all the same. Remember people didn't have chakra before Hagoromo started sharing his own with the people as Ninshu.

[@JarlinJamesNDK13]

@@EmperorChrollo continental at max ? so splitting the moon in half is continental.

[@Goji-C]

Madara is cooked 😭🙏

[@detectiveplays]

Ong

[@CJ-qv4sd]

@@Goji-C how is nappa gonna kill him if he’s immortal and has regen?

[@shido_rimru_]

​@@CJ-qv4sdhe is not immortal just got regen almost got killed by by might guy madara litteraly says almost killed him lol and got stabbed by zetsu

[@CJ-qv4sd]

@@shido_rimru_ that statement he made about almost getting killed was before he attained the rinne sharingan as Madara verbatim said he was immortal after gaining the rinne sharingan and Zetsu didn’t kill madara he simply extracted the ten tails out of his body and that’s when kaguya was summoned

[@thch5855]

​@@shido_rimru_that was before getting the third eye or second and the tree.

[@InvinciDon]

A lot of people fail to realize Saiyans in general are very adept, so even if they fight someone stronger than them, they’re somehow winning or going down swinging, and leaving a massive mark/impression. Nappa’s always been a very interesting and curious case for me, because he, much like Raditz, was only in 1 Arc, but is significantly stronger than Raditz. Topics like these also make me question how other people scale separate characters, because they usually use feats outside of combat and pretend they translate into a fight instead of taking into an account what those said characters can do in a fight with other characters. I absolutely loved this video, keep up the phenomenal work.

[@skullkid325]

Yeah, that's something that gets me too. They also fail to take the character's personality into account along with whatever time/prep is required to use a certain move. Like, people bring up Susano and just sort of...Assume Nappa's gonna stand there and take it on the chin? I actually think the destructo disc bit with Krillin is a poor thing to bring up for Nappa's battle IQ because the only reason he was in that situation is because Vegeta put him there. Vegeta was the one who wanted to wait for Goku and sadistically toy with the Z warriors 'til he got there and Nappa was fighting for Vegeta's entertainment. Nappa didn't want to wait for Goku or dick around, he literally just wanted to murder them. When he got the chance to fight after having to watch the Saibamen have all the fun he just went straight for a kill punch and shlocked Tien's arm right off. The first thing he did when he landed on Earth was turn a city into a crater. If it's just Nappa alone then any debate should assume he's going straight for the kill imo

[@quotivation47]

Nappa being close to 8000 makes sense as to that's why he killed piccolo so easily. Piccolo had a pl of 3500, that 500 difference should not have been that drastic.

[@boredomkiller99]

Yeah I took the 4000 as more at base but serious Nappa is probably stronger. It would explain why initially Piccolo was able to keep up but then gets one shot by a beam

[@alexsavin4064]

Creo que su poder total era de 7000 o 7500 si no recuerdo mal

[@T.Gundham]

No, small power gaps in DB are enough to easily destroy a person easily. Plus, he only killed Piccolo because Piccolo threw his life away.

[@Authenticnerd123]

​@@boredomkiller99nappa got lot stronger when he powered up thats the answer. Otherwise, piccolo is far more skilled so nappa could not one shot him just because of 10% difference in power level

[@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk]

Piccolo was only 3000 max, and no, Nappa wasn't closer to 8000, that makes no sense at all. If Nappa was close to 8000 the z fighters all would have noticed the power increase and made comments about him holding back.

[@luisavalos4415]

One of the realest things I learned with modern Shonen shows was finding out a lot of these final level villains were weaker than early DBZ villains like Raditz and the Saibamen.

[@1BuFo]

then u find out its just rampant dbz stan bias floating around, disregarding a bunch of stuff

[@TraxMaster_99]

​@@1BuFotrue, actually, we both are in the comment section of a DBZ stan

[@SosukeTYBW]

Literally only the most stupid dbz fans actually believe this, it's usually proven wrong 90% of the time

[@chowdhuryomar4993]

I mean some guys re just delusional thinking characters like from shows like mha and naruto when the weakest fighters in dbz have enough power to blow up planets in seconds

[@KakaCarrotCake.]

"Please Nappa I'm begging you , I need this win! PLEASE... 🥺 I'm not relevant enough to actually scratch you. If I lose every kids are going to cry"

[@Nappa_Monke]

Nah -nappa

[@KodexKat]

Madras had to be at his peak just to pull out that ultimate double meteor attack. Nappa in base form leveled a city with the flick of his fingers…..like this isn’t even a debate.

[@olagokeemmanuel9625]

Madara in his reanimation is not his peak. It was stated numerous times. His peak was his alive state

[@KodexKat]

@@olagokeemmanuel9625 he still loses……

[@olagokeemmanuel9625]

@@KodexKat and why would he lose? I would like to hear a legitimate reason other than absurd glazing.

[@IAMBEOWLF]

@@olagokeemmanuel9625 nappa can blow up a planet a couple of time the size of earth madara has nothing that can match or get close to that.

[@KodexKat]

@@IAMBEOWLF exactly. It’s like people forget that nappa was seen transformed as an ape literally destroying cities and eventually the planet in a flash back. Giant space monkey beats edgy ninja any day

[@spicyboi544]

there was also a fake madara is as strong as captain ginyu statement too right? takes me back

[@lonkstakes]

Hadn't seen that one but I wouldn't be surprised

[@unknodaemon9220]

​@@lonkstakesDon't Madara need Prep time/Gardening to Hit Planetary

[@jordanjackson8873]

​@@unknodaemon9220no. The ten tails first incomplete form was small planetary

[@unknodaemon9220]

@@jordanjackson8873 feats and so what Madara could summon it on his own and 10 tails couldn't get strong on its own

[@jordanjackson8873]

@unknodaemon9220 wdym feats? He grew an entire tree around the world, grabbed up every living life form, and put them in a genjustu in a matter of seconds. The ten tails chakra was shown on the screen as a small planetary ball of energy next to their entire planet. It transformed, got absorbed by obito which means his chakra got multipled by the ten tails chakra, then it got taken from him by Madara who is undoubtedly stronger, and it multipled his chakra even further when he received his other rinnegan and became a perfect jinchuriki. Have you seen the show? He accidentally summoned a metoer shower that dwarfed the entire country. Naruto one shotted the entire thing in seconds with a cluster of planetary tailed beast rasenshuriken.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Something else to consider in the Goku vs. Nappa matchup, Nappa had gone through Tien, Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo before fighting Goku. So his max power level may have actually been higher than 8,000 if he was fighting fresh. Where Goku came into the fight fresh with no loss in stamina or battle damage, Nappa definitely wasn't at 100% from the getgo. He may have been more than x2 as strong as Piccolo, but Nappa still definitely tanked hits which dealt some damage to him before Goku showed up. Such as that combo attack from Piccolo and Krillin, getting smacked around by Gohan, taking both Chiaotzu and Tien's suicidal attacks and getting shot from behind by Piccolo.

[@maravreloaded]

We did it Obito, we beaten Goku. That wasn't Goku you fool, that was Yamcha. And I had to use Izanagi to survive.

[@SunlightGwyn]

Madara: Oh look, Krillin sent his wife to die for him. Obito: I think we should run, Madara…

[@Erioni01]

The whole Naruto universe, ‘’finally, we beat up the strongest fighter in dragon ball, Jackie Chan!!…. No wait who is that child with pale skin!?!?’’ Dragon ball era chaotzu: ends the whole verse.

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Krilin wife will be overkill lol..she stronger than super saiyan ​@@SunlightGwyn

[@SunlightGwyn]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Yeah I know she’s overkill, lol.

[@ShahinshakpShahinshakp]

Yamcha ❤️

[@sizzle13xd94]

" Impressive. But how will you handle the second saibimen ? "

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Now I wanna see Madara tossing Saibamen like teddy bears lol.

[@basilioboy777]

“Don’t look him in the eyes, Nappa! It’s a trick!” “But, Vegeta…Trix are for kids!”

[@strikingsarcophagus]

"That boy Nappa got great ape huh? I better keep my ass in limbo or I'm FINISHED!!"

[@Zoro-ky2pj]

"oh, nah Nappas got great ape I better keep my ass in Naruto"

[@louisschmelz9544]

Imagine a bald ape, blitzing Madara😭😭 Shi would be hilarious to watch

[@pabletoday9782]

Lmao i just had the realization that a great ape being tens of times faster than light is absolutely terrifying

[@RS-bi1pc]

Honestly you were even being extremely generous to Madara because having abilities that can spread across a planet under very specific ritualistic conditions requiring multiple outside factors is hardly a planetary level feat in the terms of actual power, and even the most powerful attacks in Naruto that aren't being glazed to the extreme are at best only city level considering the ten tailed beast bomb itself wasn't even impressive compared to when Piccolo turned himself into a nuke just for Goku to tank it point blank purely to prove that he could.

[@itachi-weasel]

Ngl people who doesn't know about scaling shouldn't really try to scale characters

[@Karlos1234ify]

It’s not much of battle, if the Battlefield AND the Planet is blown up. 🌎 💥

[@DS-po6zd]

Inb4 the "Multiversal Naruto meta".

[@opadrip]

"But bro, in the background of a stage in a video game, there are stars and shit, therefore they are Multiversal somehow."

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

Naruto is star level maybe at best but people wank him so hard

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

The Von Key special.

[@capturedhydra1444]

Even that’s dumb given that space time is used to describe literally every feat of teleportation/ space manipulation in the verse, space time ninjutsu has zero time component whatsoever demonstrated to it

[@malekith33]

@@opadrip no one said that actually. Stars don't mean multiverse. And the scaling is more complicated than what ur ahh thinks. Nsuns4 absolutely packs up goku

[@locosword3985]

“Madara would be Beerus level” Mfs when Nappa shows up:

[@HeyLelouch]

The first attack ever seen from Nappa would no diff any version of madara utter annihilation

[@SosukeTYBW]

Literally nothing to a bijuu bomb that can destroy entire country sized landmass

[@burrglar6734]

​@@SosukeTYBWexcept if Nappa put all his effort into it it would have more than the destruction of the bijuu bomb

[@BigZ52]

​@@SosukeTYBWcountry sized? Nah b

[@aceclover758]

Bijuu bomb on average destroys a village, which none of the villages shown in Naruto are as big as a regular city Napp destroyed a whole city with two fingers and not even trying

[@LittleDevilDarlin]

​@@aceclover758More just didn't fit into the screen. And he was told to restrain himself...

[@RookzTV]

It’s not even just the strength, it’s the sheer speed that anybody in the naruto verse could not keep up with in the slightest

[@crimsoncomet2209]

Nappa with heart virus, no hands, no feet, and blind, he still stomps the verse lmao.

[@rterrell641]

get nappa over naruto lmao

[@KingOfAquilonia]

I feel like If Yajirobe did mild training since dragonball he'd be fuckin stronger than Madara lol

[@Lego_vegeta]

Vegeta: Nappa his power level is…1006 Nappa: oh

[@Mindhaxors]

Naruto fans be like “creating a hollow moon is planetary.” And uhhh, it’s not even a moon level feat…

[@Playeryewen]

Naruto fan’s be like: « Destroying a sub space that’s not even the size of the moon is universal »

[@jordanjackson8873]

​@@PlayeryewenKaguya's dimension had stars, red nebula, entire solar systems, and a day/night cycle.

[@Playeryewen]

@@jordanjackson8873 you read that on what novel because in the manga and anime I can only see a single planet system wich is probably planetary at most

[@jordanjackson8873]

@Playeryewen In the manga and TV series, they show a sun in the background of her dimension. In Boruto, Sasuke was star gazing in that same dimension while it was night time, and there was a red nebula traveling across the cosmos. It's the first shot before momo and kinshiki attack Sasuke.

[@dyllannudo-g3c]

​@@jordanjackson8873narutard

[@megahellreaper]

I didn't even THINK about the fact that Nappa would probably turn into a Great Ape, cause Madara would want to use the moon. Yeah, that's a wrap, if it wasn't already.

[@frieza1143]

finally someone point it out that nappa power level is 7.5k to 8k like 4k and going toe to toe with 8k goku is just doesn't make sense every time i say this those kids who don't know to read and believe every thing they hear "oh but nappa offical power level is 4k lol 🤓" + also good analysis

[@Mrbullet20004]

I'd say it's like 6k,and he's just really durable

[@frieza1143]

@@Mrbullet20004 power level in dbz is crazy like vegeta who has 24k easily destroyed didoria who has power level of 22k, that mean goku with 2k advantage would have done the same but when looking at it nappa was actually close to goku here and the fact both goku and vegeta also said the fight might take forever is also supporting this.

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

​@Mrbullet20004 power level=life force people with just a slightly higher power level can nearly one shot there opponent

[@jasonredic9457]

@@frieza1143 saiyan PLs are just weird because they can increase it during the fight so that now they can match/defeat the opponent after this

[@blueicydasani4543]

Please punctuate...

[@himanshurohewal1623]

Its crazy db was already miles above in power lvls since the 90s.

[@TraxMaster_99]

Golden age superman destroying a star with just his breath 🗿

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

​@@TraxMaster_99comics has some wild ass feats

[@robertcopp2411]

I've only seen one of these guys blow up a city by flipping it off.

[@YNBA_arsoncommiter]

I dont ever want Lonk to EVER power scale in his life again 💀

[@MusashiMiyamoto-w8q]

No one thought Nappa vs Madara was close.... maybe Raditz vs Madara.

[@yuriairesbarbosa1535]

Nah, maybe Tao Pai Pai and Madara

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

In early dbz piccolo and goku already at moon buster level and they lose to raditz ,raditz at least low planet level,

[@ashchisalleh1454]

​@@yuriairesbarbosa1535😂definitely that level. And tao pai pai still win

[@vn9574]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Nah Raditz is no where near planet level. It takes at least 10k power level to be considered low planet level.

[@Francisco-fw5fe]

@@vn9574 nah, Piccolo destroyed the moon effortlesly with a power level of 400 at most

[@Qilver]

In the anime king vegeta raises his hand and three planets explode like its nothing. Thats how you know dragonball is on a different level

[@TraxMaster_99]

Filler, and no, filler isnt canon

[@Qilver]

​@@TraxMaster_99 a piccolo who was weaker than nappa blew up the moon in seconda without difficulty. This is canon.

[@TraxMaster_99]

@@Qilver thats canon, king vegeta destroying the planets isnt canon, its a chain reaction anyway

[@TheSupremeBanshee]

nappa takes madaras innocence

[@michaelfr6290]

3:05 They were never linear. If that was the case, farmer with a shotgun would be Multi Continental

[@daichei6882]

Can we do Saibaman vs Madara? I think that would be closer-

[@thouken5777]

It's not at all

[@toniyanez4949]

No DGB character can handle a genjutsu and Madara is immortal, he will win by simple exhaustion.

[@daichei6882]

@@toniyanez4949 Immortals can be either Erased or Sealed like in the Z sword or with the Mafuba, and Genjutsu, just close your eyes I guess xD, DBG character can, at eyes closed, perceive attacks Billions of times faster than Juubidara or 8 Gates Guy can even remotely achieve

[@toniyanez4949]

@daichei6882 So you're giving Goku the advantage of knowing Madara's weaknesses in order to beat him? Because Goku isn't going to figure all that out by magic. Goku will be defeated in the first few seconds of the fight with the genjutsu and that's it. And it's obvious that you know nothing about Naruto's scales. Guy deformed reality by moving, a feat similar to Goku and Bills fist bumping. In DGB they exceed the speed of light and little else, there's no measure of comparison to say that one is faster than the other, that's just your fanaticism.

[@daichei6882]

@ no tbf we actually know in DBG they're several times faster than light, just consider that Namek Goku could dodge fairly easily light-speed attack, such as Frieza's death beam, and this was in Namek's Saga, imagine now in DBS super hero, I think they got stronger than that, so Madara would have to make eye contact with a being that can Auto-dodge every single thing that his body considers a menace, like a genjutsu, and moves several thousands of time faster than him

[@YohanRelationshipAdvice]

Nappa destroy leaf village lifting two fingers alone. Moves faster than Minato teleportation. Atomizes hashirama

[@BROLYEDITZ]

Remember power levels being not linear means even having a slighter better power level means u would slam your opponent. So nappa being 4000 - 8000 power level means nappa could be pretty strong. I would personally give him star level as a solid. And ftl+ to maybe mftl at a higher end

[@BasedMexx]

The fake interviews you mention in the beginning reminds me of when the JoJo community would often make up interviews and quotes from Araki 😂

[@ye87]

The first 15 seconds is a straight up lie 😂 the new era scalers definitely are the ones who came up with shit like hyperversal outerversal you can right now go look back at guys who actually backed up everything they said with math actual calculations vs oh this guy said he can do something so it’s true go look at guys like GUBZ and Comic books vs the world those guys don’t even post anymore because of how stupid the new scaling is 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Saki-Malo]

“I can’t believe it, I finally beat that guy, it took everything out of me and it broke every bone in my body” “Vegeta look, imma firing my laser”

[@yungbandup]

You can bring together all of the strongest people who have ever lived in the naruto universe actually revive every single person who was ever born and combine they’re efforts and still wouldn’t even make nappa bleed LOL.

[@dizsolos]

Last video was lowkey massive downplaying, im glad we're back on track, W video Lonk

[@FinalAnthony]

Don’t let death battle see this 😂

[@jonbrewer1896]

Nappa takes the win in this one. Sorry Naruto fans. But Nappa would have fun

[@WaylonMoone]

Nappa would die in seconds 😂 Nappa aint that strong, I would maybe put him at most Garra with those tail abilities as a kid, If we mentioned buu or beerus then maybe Madara wouldn’t be able to match them at all based on super and the movies we seen.

[@jonbrewer1896]

@@WaylonMoone 😂😂😂 your guy isn't nowhere near powerful enough to to get that far Cell would destroy him long before the buu Arc 😂😂😂😂

[@Giant_dad69]

​@@WaylonMoone this 🤡 is you kid nappa solos

[@klyzer5725]

​@@WaylonMoone😂 nappa would clap the naruto verse infinitely times

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

​@@WaylonMoonenappa folds them goofy ninjas

[@jackferdinger4180]

7:50 Ay is not "barely stunned" by Madara's genjutsu. It was a wood clone, and it took Onoki to break him out of it

[@MohamedAmineSebei]

Grenade vs nuclear bomb aaah comparison.

[@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2]

Yeah this was all correct but Madara would beat SSJ4 Gogeta tho

[@Kamil-hy4jv]

????? how ?????

[@thechadlordboros]

@@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2 “Vegeta we need to fuse this is base Madara we’re fighting” - Goku probably.

[@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768]

Bro is not goat cabba

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

Bro stop😭

[@RandomYnontheinternet]

​@@gogetomasterultrainstinct5768he not the goat

[@NtheHecker]

I find it hard to believe Nappa could stay levelheaded as a great ape. Also even though Nappa could trade punches evenly with Goku who was at 8000 doesn't mean Nappa is at 8000. Goku often holds back in fights and sometimes overestimates opponents. I believe Nappa could be somewhere around 6000 when he's level headed and focused. So he's at 4-6k making him 40-60k as a great ape. But he's likey closer to 40k in that state because it's even harder for Nappa to control his primal mind. Add to this that Nappa probably does not know how to perform this transformation by himself you could argue it's fair that Nappa has to be around 4-6k when he Fights Madera for the purpose of this video. A power level of 4k is still more than enough to stomp Madera even in his strongest form. Nappa stomps and there will always be a soft spot for Madera at the bottom of his boot.

[@Zer0Main43]

1: Madara’s Genjutsu probably would work on Nappa, given Sharingan Genjutsu (and similar techniques, like Itachi’s finger) directly inserts Chakra into the target, unlike most other Genjutsu which only manipulate the existing Chakra, this is best shown when Obito and Madara use their Sharingan to control Kurama, as he is made of Natural Energy (NOT Chakra), likely has no Chakra, and they can still use Genjutsu on him perfectly fine 2: Madara can regenerate, so unless Nappa goes for his head, or completely atomizes him, he wouldn’t be able to put him down, and genuinely I think it’s in character for Nappa to not realize he needs to do that without Vegeta backseat fighting for him 3: Madara could rip his soul out with the Rinnegan 4: Infinite Tsukuyomi doesn’t take that long for Madara to use, I mean him just throwing a few meteors in Naruto and Sasuke’s general direction, not even at them specifically, was enough of a distraction that drew their ettention for long enough for him to activate Infinite Tsukuyomi, and it is a win condition, and Great Ape transformations seem to take at least like 30 seconds, which is plenty time for Madara to loot at the moon, take his headband off, and say some words Here is how I think this fight would play out: Madara gets one shot and completely vaporized by Nappa pointing his fingers in the air before he even finishes processing that Nappa is attacking him

[@Spoonwizard1]

Actually for the first one we aren’t sure if you need chakra networks because even when forcing genjutsu onto a person everyone in Naruto has Chakra network so nappa someone who doesn’t have those networks probably won’t work without the networks but we ain’t sure really

[@Mad_scientist_ha_ha_ha]

Kurama is made out of chakra, the ten tails is the one that's made of natural energy

[@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk]

Modera wouldn't be fast enough to react or movie. He just dies.

[@skeliton1505]

Madara would be blitzed faster than Guy did him

[@WaylonMoone]

@@skeliton1505Didn’t guy broke time and space itself doing that, Nappa aint that fast it was shown earlier some Naruto characters like Haku can move and attack at light speed.

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

People often disregard the basics of powerscaling when it comes to their favorite characters.

[@TraxMaster_99]

Yes, like lonks thinking tien is universal lol

[@finnmarr-heenan2397]

Dbz are so wildly strong compared to shonen, what’s wild is people don’t realise classic comic characters make dbz look farmer with a shotgun

[@TraxMaster_99]

Yeah, golden age superman had star level feats and planetary before it even became a thing

[@blame7121]

People often forget how ridiculously powerful DBZ characters are, even during the Saiyan Saga. Very few characters can compete against the DBZ universe.

[@WaylonMoone]

You mean all of them can? Dragon ball had strong characters but at most are easy to trick and can easily be put down physically, Nappa, Raddits, those weird tiny people the sayains had a rivalry with, maybe not Piccolo but anyone beneath him should be achievable with the right weapons. no whats OP in anime would be like Gurran langdrum, Anyone from the hulk series in that old cartoon, Bleach, soul eater, helsing, that weird series elfiend I think had these weird humanoids who can easily resist 50 cal Armour piercings like nothing which is known to pierce through helicopters and tanks plus she has these weird arms that block almost any attack and will slice up anything and anyone they want thats close by.

[@blame7121]

@@WaylonMoone you're comparing 50cal bullets to energy blasts that can literally destroy entire solar systems. Bruh, you're tripping. Btw it's *Elfen Lied

[@snspect]

Some Naruto scenes I recognize here are just too high quality to come from the anime, they look movie quality. What's that source?

[@hirudegarns]

some of them look to be from the Ninja Storm games, which redid some scenes / added some like the Hashirama v. Madara and I believe Guy v. Madara

[@snspect]

@@hirudegarns thank you! I was beginning to think the same for some DBZ scenes in this vid but maybe those are just scenes from Kai

[@Quasartist]

to add onto what the other guy said, there was also that 20th(?) anniversary animation they did last year where they reanimated a handful of the big fights, I think some of the animations were from that as well.

[@dbzsupersonicfan]

do chiaotzu vs pokemon fr it seems some gradevoar baby havers didn't get the joke

[@thechadlordboros]

@@dbzsupersonicfan Pokemon probably wins. Even fodder Pokemon have crazy scaling like Gardevoir for example can create black holes when its trainer is in danger.

[@Rl55322]

@@thechadlordborosyeah Pokémon feats go crazy, tho power scaling them is difficult since the anime disagrees with the pokedex entries which also conflict with gameplay. Still they go crazy tho, like a little toucan can fire a giant laser (oblivion wing chatot)

[@azohoangi69]

Bro this goes to far im a dragon ball fans but nah arceus is too strong

[@Sandy_do_wis]

These black holes are fake, because even a black hole the size of a gram of sand would be the weight of the Earth, so logically it should suck in everything around it "but fiction has different rules" only if the author states it, and I don't remember them saying that this specific rule is different ​@@thechadlordboros

[@somersaultinggiraffe1901]

​@Multiversedestroyer2.01Goku died to a laser, Vegeta died to the Earth's core exploding. DBZ niggas are weak as fuck

[@UwU-xk5cx]

Madara vs Nappa was the OG version of Base Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta

[@vellichor7676]

This is why "Naruto Vs Goku" debates are braindead. Juubi Madara gets stomped by Nappa, whom Goku defeated rather easily in the Saiyan Saga. Look, don't even talk about SSJ3 Goku, or something crazy powerful like that; just talk about Goku the moment he arrives on Namek. No Naruto character, on their best day, could possibly have a chance against that Goku.

[@JoeLikesBlue]

Nappa loses to a single genjutsu. Madara doesn’t use it all that effectively against strong threats because they know how to break genjutsu as they are ninja would be trained specifically against it. Nice try to brush it off tho. 🥱

[@Bdavis2475]

Nappa could kill madara with his eyes closed. Or if vegeta is there to snap him out of a genjutsu he would be ok. Changing into an ape could probably snap him out of an illusion

[@JoeLikesBlue]

@@Bdavis2475 Lmao. Notice how you needed to introduce another character for Nappa to win? Also eye contact is not needed for genjutsu. That shit has been disproven since the chapter it was introduced. And the you’re assuming Nappa is also knows that Madara has genjutsu. Stop the cap xd.

[@WaylonMoone]

@@Bdavis2475As a dragon ball fan… No, The great ape if memory serves is Nappa himself and not anyone else, If he rampaged he would still get locked, It was even said in Naruto, Those who have very little understanding of both genjutsu and ninjutsu are the easiest to trap in the weakest of Gen. Nappa can close his eyes but thats not gonna do anything plus I wouldn’t even put Madara to fight him since hes more beastly then skilled I would probably put in Zabusa or even kabuto.

[@WaylonMoone]

@@Bdavis2475As a dragon ball fan… No, The great ape is still Nappa, If it was split into 2 people then yes it could work, But its not. Nappa can’t win this, Hell Hes so weak You dont even need a strong character You can easily put someone like Kabuto or Zabusa to fight him, As long as he rages on, You can kill him, He can tear through dozens of ships like paper all he wants that won’t help him win.

[@KidGoku-g4v]

Shet argument tbh. Why would you assume Nappa won't do anything before genjutsu? We don't even know if that would work on other verse character and Nappa speed and strength is so high that he will kill madara easily bro. Just like he vaporised cities. And I don't think Nappa is kind of a guy like Goku that plays around when he can kill he will kill

[@arcaneluck578]

I've always been curious about this😂

[@IssMoth]

Nappa vs Evolved Chiaotzu

[@calvinoleary]

I’m at 1:16…. I will say I remember Napa destroyed an entire town the size of New York City like it was nothing, straight dropped a nuke instantly and you could see it in space…. Soooooo yeah idk man. The fact that Napa is a no one at this point, not a single person in Naruto can compete with the characters in DBZ…

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

Fun watch! I love the idea of using Nappa as a benchmark for other anime to see if they can beat. Hope you do more Nappa VS videos lol

[@marinomele4575]

Man this video is so bad it's basically a voiced-over reddit post. So much so, I had to stop mid Nappa analysis... Bro is legit lying to his followers here. 1. "Locked on Nappa isn't a thing" Since Lonks knows his DBZ, he should know Vegeta and Nappa CAN'T manipulate their PL at this point... Yet he chose to lie and wank Nappa. Nice fanfiction tho. 2. "OG Dragonball isn't Planetary." 3:18 that's obviously an hyperbole since that's a scan from 'El Manga Legendario'... the same guidebook that explicitly STATES a power level of 10K is needed to destroy a planet! But you can't show that here, right? Cherrypicking was the only option, otherwise your whole video would auto-debunk itself.

[@TraxMaster_99]

Bro also thinks tien is universal lol

[@marinomele4575]

@TraxMaster_99 And he's telling that to 50 thousand people. These youtubers are factually ruining the Power scaling scene, using headcanon instead of logic. But hey, Trump proved twice this IS what people want.

[@andrewspencer121]

Dragon ball master roshi is seem like more of a close fight for madara Madara would loss but I think the fight would be good

[@isu152stalin2]

How tf blowing up the moon is considering large planet level?

[@the0therch0ice]

Because of how you blow up the moon. The moon was turned to dust meaning the energy exceeded the threshold of simply destroying it. Blowing up a car with a nuke doesn't make the nuke car level.

[@geraldoedoby6868]

The explosion was enough to blow up a large planet. And the explosionof the moon was so big it coverd up the entier sky in light .

[@isu152stalin2]

@@geraldoedoby6868 Is the moon in DB bigger than our's?

[@justaguy5862]

​@isu152stalin2 precisely the planet in DBZ is like 10x larger or something and the moon scales with that. Moreover it was an uncharged ki blast so someone like piccolo at that point could still pretty easily blow up a planet

[@TraxMaster_99]

​@@justaguy5862no, its the same size, there is no indication of DB planey being either bigger or smaller, and no, before you came up with arale statement of the earth being bigger than the solar system, its get debunked in the chapter 82 of the manga and dr umashika is literally a fraud and even scripts his interviews

[@klojhail9634]

madara doesn't scale to kaguya but scale to her son who fight her. amazing logic

[@nicholasshawfryer2135]

Finally scaling that makes sense ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. U got a subscriber lol

[@6PathsGohan]

😈 "Do you want 1 finger or 2" Nappa probably

[@JSantiago1990]

I don't disagree with the take Nappa murders Madara easily. But I do argue that Madara doesn't have anything in his arsenal that, if not kill, would at least majorly hurt Nappa or at best minimum WORK against Nappa

[@mkchable]

He doesn't have anything that would hurt Nappa. Chiaotzu was comparable to Raditz who was 3 times stronger than planet buster (beginning of Z piccolo). That means Chiaotzu had more AP than Madara as well. Chaiotzu literally self destructed on Nappa and only managed to bruise him. Tein's tri-beam outranked Roshi's moon busting Kamehameha in DragonBall and literally became over 10× stronger than he was by the time he fought Nappa. Nappa still tanked an even stronger version of it. The AP doesn't even come close.

[@TheBloccobill]

​@@mkchableactually chiaotzu's Power level was 610. Less than half of raditz' 1500

[@mkchable]

@@TheBloccobill I remember Raditz being around 1,200 and Chiaotzu being around 900, but fair.

[@danielgedeon6454]

​@@mkchableMadara IS large planet to star lvl, he destroys all of Saiyan saga

[@legrandelysee98]

@@danielgedeon6454 He's not

[@dandredawkins2885]

2:30 i think there was another power level stated for him atp to be 7500 im not sure its been awhile

[@Mikerille]

Nappa after adapting was in the 7k~ish range, with a single focused blast, he’s casually in the large planet ranges, since the el legendario says 10k to EASILY destroy a planet, and earth is stated several times to be a tiny planet. Which is shown in the anime with the 10k king bardock waving his hand to obliterate 3 planets, which as you know is dwarf star.

[@lmpious]

god, i can’t imagine vegeta’s struggle in the torment of universes if they revived nappa instead of frieza

[@LegOptimusprime]

Why does 1:30 go so hard

[@FroYoOG]

@LonksTales I range from being fine with this to slightly disagreeing, and I'll outline why here: A. To start i think you were just mildly disingenous when talking about both characters AP, for instance you were willing to use calcs to buff Nappa's already insane AP from Casual Moon/Planet Buster to Casual Large Planet Buster meanwhile for Madara you barely used a calc for declaring he was Multi-Continetal and kinda just went "he might be planetary" and that was it, no other calcs nothing. Not to mention just the overall problem with the 9 Tails statement you used, even assuming it was true (i agree) you failed to acknowledge that that was only half of Kurama so Madara just with EMS has AP 2× Base Planetary B.The way you handled Madara being above Kurama was...questionable, we have multiple statements about the 10 Tails power/chakra just being straight up Limitless compared to Kurama, showing hiw infintesimal he is compared to him, and thats JUST the 10 tails, thats not including the boosts from Rinnegans, being a Jinchuriki, and having the Rinnesharingan, honestly i think the best way you couldve done that was to use a lowball of 50× a midball of 500× and a highball of 5000× (or higher numbers but i think Increments of 10× work best here) this wouldnt even necessarily get Madara comparable to Nappa off of these multipliers alone i just think it wouldve made the final conclusion more accurate C. Another thing i had was that you didnt really justify as to why 3 Eyed Juubidara wouldnt scale to Kaguya fight Naruto and Sasuke, all you said was that they got more proficient with their abilities but like...that doesnt really equate better AP, not to mention that its clear they were low end relative to Kaguya with the only severe bit of damage done to Kaguya being boil release Naruto which gives a multiplier in strength D. I think the speed segment was a bit scuffed, you went to say that you thought LS Naruto was consistent as far back as the Pain Arc but then despite admitting that they got vastly stronger they somehow barely got FTL? Not to mention once again lack of calcs or even Multiplier usage to try and reason things out, for instance KCM1 Naruto blitzed Version 2 Ay and Version 1 AY was already near LS, blitz values should range from 2 to 10× faster than something or someone, so even assuming at worst that V1 Ay was only 50% LS that would make V2 AY potentially LS and KCM 1 Naruto ranging from LS to 5× FTL just in KCM 1, now i dont necessarily think even using this that Madara would be severely faster or even the same speed as Nappa im just pointing out how you could be better E. I think my final "nitpick" is about the lack of a multiplier, now im totally fine with Nappa being given those multipliers it makes sense, but i think your lack of attempt to even give a Multiplier in Naruto is a bit disingenous, for instance you could easily assume that Naruto's 1 Tailed Form ranges from a 2× to a 10× multiplier (off of scaling to the Curse Mark) and the one confirmed multiplier we do have (SM) is a 10× multiplier, so i feel that it would be pretty fair to give that same multiplier AT LEAST to someone utilizing SPSM since its SM on steroids or someone utilizing something similar ie the Rinnegan and 10 Tails, and once again thats just completely ignoring the 10 Tails and everything else Overall i think this was a solid video that was for the most part right, i dont even necessarily disagree that Nappa would lose i just think you couldve done a bit better with Naruto

[@TraxMaster_99]

Bro thinks tien is universal, dont expect him bieng too much logical

[@FroYoOG]

@LonksTakes

[@bishopdaking717]

Nappa isn’t planetary in both the filler & databooks it’s stated that u need a PL of 10k to be planet level. Nappa never reaches that level of power specially since King Vegeta was the strongest known saiyan & had a 10k PL. Also idk y ppl think infinite tsukyomi takes time, it’s instant he showed that when he used it on Obito.

[@Sandy_do_wis]

Correction: it said 10k for MULTI PLANET level, not planet Also, the planets in Dragon Ball are much more massive than normal ones, like Earth, which is 4 billion kilometers in dragon ball xD

[@danielgedeon6454]

​@Multiversedestroyer2.01Madara IS easily large planet lvl with star lvl AP

[@KuroFrog]

@@danielgedeon6454but bro doesn’t have a single planet level or star level feat strange isn’t it

[@WaylonMoone]

@@KuroFrogYou forget is Susano? If he can’t place a trap on Nappa, His form is so strong it took Hundreds of planet like destructions from Hashirama in his buddha Sage form. But besides that, Hell nah I wouldn’t put Nappa aginst Madara I would die in seconds, Maybe Buu if he sees him as a threat. Maybe Cell to but Imm not sure.

[@KuroFrog]

@@WaylonMoone bro no one in naruto at this time is even planetary wtf are u yapping about?

[@DomiEE]

"or does he rival beerus" proceeds to show beerus blow up half a planet with a tap of his finger 😺

[@DirtyBobBojangles]

The amount of people I've spoken to who say Nappa is a better villain than Madara because hes stronger is absurd.