NaruHina Canon is Trash | A Timestamped Analysis

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@softie_vinyl
@softie_vinyl 11 ай бұрын
when hinata almost dies twice to tell naruto she likes him and he still tells his dad sakura is his girlfriend..... that shows how naruto sees hinata. we couldve had hinata moving on and the og idea of sakura realizing through hanging out with/fighting with naruto that she likes him back. personally i wouldve liked naruto to stay single and just be that cool hokage uncle to all his friends kids but thats just how i though it would be if sakura never liked him back.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 9 ай бұрын
Both Naruto and Sasuke should've ended up together and adopted a few kids while running the village
@softie_vinyl
@softie_vinyl 9 ай бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 fr. They should've just adopted an army of orphans
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 8 ай бұрын
​@@softie_vinylSounds like a fair deal to me...😂 Otherwise both sasusaku and naruhina are forced and cursed ships.
@notgadot
@notgadot 6 ай бұрын
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@mofubunsart
@mofubunsart 6 ай бұрын
This needs to be a fanfic this is too good
@aliestor3273
@aliestor3273 7 ай бұрын
Both Naruto and Sasuke seems to be forces into this relationships and had to suffered.
@TamaraPizhadze
@TamaraPizhadze Жыл бұрын
In Boruto, Hinata is not even a character, which is awful. SP dropped her. They propped her up for years, but as soon as she got with Naruto and had his children, they had no idea what to do with her.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
Literally one of the biggest tragedies there ever was in Naruto 😭
@TamaraPizhadze
@TamaraPizhadze Жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes It's more like she served her function. Now she has no purpose in the narrative
@TamaraPizhadze
@TamaraPizhadze Жыл бұрын
Which is a tragedy
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
@@TamaraPizhadze Even worse was that she didn't care about anyone beyond herself and Naruto. She has no layers and depth. She didn't care about her clan politics or the fact that her cousin was quite literally a branded slave. Just Naruto's cock. Put her on screen and tell me what she has to say that contributes to anything else beyond Naruto? Nothing. How do people think she's a good character?
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
Y’all actually sound crazily misogynistic rn cause it sounds like your saying hinata was a baby maker.
@jaircletus7222
@jaircletus7222 Жыл бұрын
naruhina didn't even have a dynamic people confused naruto's gestures of kindness for something romantic being naruto never showed jealousy or much less interest in her the only time he blushed was when she praised his ability to not give up on anything
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
The chemistry between their characters was so minimal because of their lack of interactions and Hinatas constant love for Naruto and his disinterest in the manga makes it only more sadder. The fact that SP had to make a whole movie AND involve a genjutsu and space aliens to make them end up together ON TOP of Neji’s unnecessary death makes me side eye the canon couple forever.
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes I second that.
@xMysticxbutterfly
@xMysticxbutterfly 3 ай бұрын
this !! pain arc when she told she loved him look at his face as response ...
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 Ай бұрын
Not to mention that Naruhina as a ship, is just as toxic contrast to the Sakura's with Sasuke. Hinata views Sakura as her enemy, but Sakura respected her as an individual and didn't seem to have ill intentions towards her. Narusaku could have potential as a healthy ship, only if Sasuke and Hinata were out of the picture, since both of them looked like toxic characters without a personality.
@lavoniaholloway1245
@lavoniaholloway1245 Ай бұрын
@@missstranger7697where in the WORLD did Hinata see Sakura as an enemy? When Sakura hugged Naruto after the Pein Arc and after Hinata’s confession, Hinata was in the background *smiling*. Hinata had no ill will against Sakura ever in the entirety of the series
@spritelady4669
@spritelady4669 6 ай бұрын
Hot take I’ve always had: But I think Hinata should have died during the war arc instead of Neji. It would’ve been more thematically appropriate, a great shock moment, and Neji could’ve fixed the goddamn Hyuuga clan.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, that doesn’t sound too bad. It would have DEFINITELY shocked everyone since she’s such a fan favorite and really brought home the severity of the war. Plus Neji reforming the clan could have ended his character arc beautifully, especially because he can stop future generations being treated like him and honor a legacy that would have made a girl like Hinata thrive better in the clan. But it’s whatever 😔
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 5 ай бұрын
Neji waa supposed to die in part one during the sasuke rescue arc but the editor forced kishimoto to keep him alive​@@DayDayDoes
@Eucalyptus-g5n
@Eucalyptus-g5n 3 ай бұрын
Yes it was exactly how I wanted It to be
@lavoniaholloway1245
@lavoniaholloway1245 Ай бұрын
Hinata is one of my favorite characters but I second this. I loved Jiraiya and Itachi and Neji, and they still died, so I would’ve probably been okay with Hinata’s death. It would’ve made sense, but honestly Neji was protecting Hinata which also makes sense. Unfortunately he’s doing exactly what he was trying to avoid most of his life Either way, I would’ve just been yelling at my brother “HE KILLED HINATA OFF!!!” for weeks like I did for the other three, but I wouldn’t have shed a tear lol. It would just be shock but it would’ve been such a good shock. Hinata dying to save Naruto would’ve just made Hinata fans like her even more, no lie
@ferl.r733
@ferl.r733 Ай бұрын
I would have loved that. I mean I would still be hurt that Hinata died, but Neji shouldn't have died like his father. I don't care if they claim it's because they did it was because for love. It felt like they were just following the clan's rules.
@jchgbluedemon2729
@jchgbluedemon2729 2 жыл бұрын
The Ino and Sai pairing is also poorly written and poorly executed. When they meet, Ino is only interested in him because according to her he looked like Sasuke and Sai only calls her "pretty". thinking that she really is ugly to prevent her from hitting him like Sakura... That was all for them to end up together in the end as seen in chapter 700 of the manga. There are people who defend this couple because in Boruto they are seen to be happy together and in the Shikamaru Hidden novel they show you how Sai corresponds to Ino BUT it is still forced because following the original manga there was ZERO chemistry between Sai and Ino. Not to mention the fact that Ino was still interested in Sasuke in the ninja war (which made no sense because the series never developed a link between the 2 characters, Sasuke never spoke to Ino and Ino never saw Sasuke again until the war... but that's a separate issue) shows that Sai was a replacement. I love Naruto but the Romance and the female caracthers are relly BAD written.😫
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like Ino/Sai. It's not my go-to, but out of the mess of the ending, its not the worst pairing out there. I don't think Kishimoto intended that pairing because it was definitely hella random. Pretty sure it was just something thrown together because they needed parents for the next gen kids, like Choji/Karui (another example of random, but it works), and Ino liked him enough to add to her harem. At least they treat each other better then NH or SS 🤷🏽‍♀️ And funny enough, I've always known that Ino held a burning torch for Sasuke even after Sakura and her made up pre-Shippuden. I think she mostly just kept it to herself, but it was an open secret basically. She was canonically the first of the characters to crush on Sasuke, and any time Sasuke is brought up in front of her, she reacts. Even her Tsykuyomi dream had Sasuke and Sai fighting over her. Other then that, you're not wrong that romance and female characters are Kishimoto's worse nightmares.
@writer_man5318
@writer_man5318 Жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes I still say Ino/Chouji would have been the best pairing for Ino since the biggest issue with Ino's love that we've seen is that she bases it on being physically good looking over everything else. Sasuke and Sai's personalities didn't matter to her, only their looks. Chouji would have been a good example of her evolving beyond that shallow perspective. Chouji would have been the flip - acknowledging problems with his physical looks and slovenly personality. Which I thought they were moving towards in Shippuden because he's more muscle than fat at 15/16, and seemed to put more effort in his hairstyle and clothing to come off as more attractive.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the only ship that even was built up was Shikamaru and Temari. That says a little and a lot
@danielg.9075
@danielg.9075 11 ай бұрын
@@writer_man5318 There's a creator on KZbin who's working on a Naruto rewrite, and let me tell you. They gave us watchers a dash of what life would be like if Ino and Choji started dating and it's the most wholesome beautiful thing ever! They're called dygoknight
@shreksyq
@shreksyq 10 ай бұрын
The difference is that they’re a side couple. They couldve been written better but still
@hmoim1986
@hmoim1986 Жыл бұрын
Its just so funny to me that they made sakura and hinata best friends in the last ??? Like they barely interacted ☠☠ and making sakura out of all people give LOVE ADVICES to hinata 🤦🏽 I really dont think she's the one who should've been the matchmaker when kurenai is just there I mean atleast she had experience with love and was ACTUALLY close to hinata ! Or if they went the narusaku route they could've made ino and sai the matchmakers because they're actually close to the main interested and it would pave a path for inosai
@ad7265
@ad7265 Ай бұрын
there’s not a single meaningful interaction between Kurenai and Hinata, we don’t even know what kind of woman Kurenai is because Kishi didn’t give a fuck. Also, we don’t even know how Kurenai and Asuma got together. It was just skipped straight to pregnancy. Sakura didn’t even do anything bad with her advice. She was pushing Naruto to Hinata and said to him that Hinata’s heart will never change because she loves him so much. Tell me what’s bad about the fact that they chose Sakura for that role?
@TheyThemGhost
@TheyThemGhost Жыл бұрын
Studio Pierrot showed favoritism of hinata and they abused their power to make hinata important. It’s the same dumb logic as goku and chi chi.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
The bias for Hinata was HEAVY. You just know they were ecstatic when they got to animate Boruto and include ALL the Hinata they couldn’t in the original anime.
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
Hinata was important to the canon story though? She has saved Naruto twice and he has thanked her for it.
@wavestation999
@wavestation999 Жыл бұрын
​@@mae4life527 she's not, you're just a biased hinata fanboy. Also when does she save him? She goes and gets absolutely fucking destroyed by Pain and then goes and gets Neji killed vs Obito. And Naruto still would rather call Sakura his gf 🤣
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
@@wavestation999 I’m not biased if I have facts with it and I’m a girl. She saved him twice and NARUTO HIMSELF thanked her!? She goes and obviously tries to save Naruto NOT to fight pain. Please use YOURE brain. And she did not get neji killed? Neji WLLINGLY jumped infront of them to save hinata and Naruto. And Naruto took it as a JOKE cause once his father was actually leaving him, Naruto didn’t confirm it again, he kept quiet on it cause he didn’t feel it was true.
@iiheartboba
@iiheartboba Жыл бұрын
@@mae4life527wym he have thanked her twice? Which manga book are you reading?
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 Жыл бұрын
My problem with NaruHina is this: 1. It was poorly written to the point it feels like it only happened because the fans wanted it to happen. 2. Hinata’s main motivation and her as a character became about Naruto. 3. It takes them an entire fucking movie to even get together despite her confessing her love for him during the Pein arc. 4. Neji was killed off for this ship. 5. Hinata became a damn housewife. 6. Hinata has so much wasted potential where they never acknowledged the way her father treated her, never had her help to fix her clans problems with Neji, never became clan head. Nada. Zero. 7. They didn’t make Hinata standout more. This girl created TWO original jutsus and we rarely saw either of them. Hell one of them was in a damn filler episode and that’s it.
@ihatesasusaku
@ihatesasusaku 11 ай бұрын
They did Hinata so wrong T-T she deserves so much more bruh
@notgadot
@notgadot 9 ай бұрын
@@ihatesasusaku lol hinatrash is useless.
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
@@ihatesasusaku nah hinatrash is hyuseless. I hate naruhina 🚮💩
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
And nobody likes her kids especially boruto lol
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
Lol hinatrash is hyuseless . I hatte naru hina 💩🚮
@alices7422
@alices7422 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 👏 for 👏 making 👏 this 👏 video! I've been frustrated about this since 2009 and no one's been able to understand me or cared really. All my guy friends were pro naruhina , and after the ending of Naruto part 2 , they gave me a poor explanation as to why these pairings HAD to happen. One of them still does. I have felt bitter and alone in my opinion all this time, so thank you for making this video
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 10 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! Most dudes that I know like this pairing because Hinata's personality is something a lot of them supposedly "want" in a girl (timid, innocent, sweet, doormat, big boobs) so they don't focus on anything else. Or because she liked him first, they say good enough and don't think too deeply. You're not alone.
@notgadot
@notgadot 9 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes I second that.
@notgadot
@notgadot 9 ай бұрын
Dont worry, i think all the smart guys prefer sakura, she is like a wonder woman.
@kueimeen6872
@kueimeen6872 4 ай бұрын
@@notgadotI ship Naruto and Sakura it just makes more sense in my own opinion….Kishi suck at writing romance and female characters….if he would’ve made Naruto and Sakura end up together it would gave Sakura such a good character development, finally get over sasuke and realizing Naruto is the one who has always been there for her…
@maomi1852
@maomi1852 2 ай бұрын
Because they only care that Hinata had boobs and his timid and "obedient". It's the weebs fantasy. They don't care about what is better for the characters or what makes sense plot wise
@xensoldier
@xensoldier Жыл бұрын
I grew up with Naruto, watching it subbed as a pre-teen waaaay back in 2003... but yeah NaruHina felt so forced.
@Ryma_D_First
@Ryma_D_First 10 ай бұрын
Honestly most of the Naruto canon ships are shit. The only ship I care about is Shikamaru x Temari. The horrible ships make watching Boruto absolutely insufferable. I really don’t know which one I hate more NaruHina or SasuSaku.
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 Ай бұрын
Sasusaku had more drama, but Naruhina was more nonsensical as a ship.
@scottsommer9843
@scottsommer9843 11 ай бұрын
I can make this simple The Naruto manga has 13,728 pages total from the beginning to the end of Gaiden. Yes, I counted. In those pages, Naruto and Hinata interacted exactly 37 pages. Arguably 7 of those pages were shoehorned in to tie in with that stupid movie. That is exactly 0.02% of the manga. The movie sums it up Sakura: "Hey Naruto, maybe you should walk Hinata home." Naruto: "Why?"
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
So sad indeed..
@1st2nd-dp9uu
@1st2nd-dp9uu 8 ай бұрын
How long did it took you?😭
@mofubunsart
@mofubunsart 6 ай бұрын
Did he actually said that? Absolutely yikes
@Eucalyptus-g5n
@Eucalyptus-g5n 3 ай бұрын
Like really even when sakura asks that he's like why that only ask him to walk sakura home , he will be more than willing to do that
@Deity_devil
@Deity_devil 3 ай бұрын
@@1st2nd-dp9uuhe probably just added up all the volumes
@gbphilster2004
@gbphilster2004 Жыл бұрын
The last was hinata's movie... Not naruto
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
Basically. I could tell Studio Perriot was FERAL to make that movie.
@notgadot
@notgadot 6 ай бұрын
So sad indeed
@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane
@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane 6 ай бұрын
you are not wrong, the movie wasn't even about hanabi, it was just a movie to canon and mistankeniable ship.
@johnstrife7
@johnstrife7 3 ай бұрын
And it's garbage
@cuteJyotsna-jk
@cuteJyotsna-jk Ай бұрын
I first watch the trailer, and i like sasuke in that, and i watched the movie for sasuke but he had as much of screen time in movie as he has in trailer. They show him in trailer for like 30 seconds and he didn't even have 1 min of screen time in movie. Hinata knitting a scarf has more screen time then him
@StarLight-wd6nr
@StarLight-wd6nr Жыл бұрын
I have one thing to say: THOSE LITERALLY ARE MY THOUGHTS 👏👏 Well, done 👏 I seriously hate this pairing for all the reasons you mentioned especially that they had to guilt-trip Naruto to notice her.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
That's the main reason I can't tolerate this ship. The guilting is a HUGE red flag.
@ryokohonda4619
@ryokohonda4619 Жыл бұрын
I like this ship but its true. It lacks development. It really looks forced. It just doesn't make me furious like Sasusaku since they never tried to kill each other.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
At least with nh, Naruto isn’t disrespectful to Hinata. 😭
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
No. It's shit like SasuSaku. Naruto thought of her as a weirdo (first direct thoughts in the manga) and ignored her for the majority of the series. It's dumb and contrived as the rest of the ships
@Boss_Isaac
@Boss_Isaac Жыл бұрын
​@@lapplandkun9273 100% agreed. SasuSaku is equally as pathetic: Sasuke honest-to-God does NOT reciprocate her feelings, he's rejected Sakura at least twice, and when they encounter each other again 3 years later at Orochimaru's hideout, Sasuke himself straight up says that he's resolved to sever the bond between them... yet Sakura’s still hung up on him and on him returning to Konoha. Granted Sakura and Naruto were under the impression, even after that encounter, that Orochimaru was going to take possession of his body, they were *genuinely* concerned for his safety, yet even after learning of Sasuke's slaying Orochimaru, they're still clinging to the idea of him coming home.
@TheBlackOtaku
@TheBlackOtaku 2 жыл бұрын
To me kishimoto is really Bad at handling romance and he’s not good at writing female characters.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
Oh he's terrible. Just when it seems he's got it, he overthinks it and ignores the girls as if they're alien species. Like bruh, they're human beings like the boys. They don't all have to revolve around romance either. But as usual, he doesn't even try if he feels he's really that bad to improve himself.
@TheBlackOtaku
@TheBlackOtaku 2 жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes also my biggest complaint about naruhina is naruto just flat out ignore Hinata when she sacrifice herself for saving his life and confess her feelings for naruto and just completely forgot about Hinata feelings and a took a stupid genjutsu and took Naruto to finally realize that she was in love with her this whole time which is total bullshit, naruto just talk to her and just say thank you to her something besides ignoring Hinata this whole time 😡
@tettescobidubidoo5877
@tettescobidubidoo5877 2 жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes nh is better than ss
@eddieboston6540
@eddieboston6540 Жыл бұрын
not true you can't name one.
@eddieboston6540
@eddieboston6540 Жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes so you didn't read his other manga that got cancelled in samurai 8 .
@nunouno001
@nunouno001 10 ай бұрын
For me, Hinata is the living embodiment of Japan’s flavor of sexism. A culture and society where women are expected to be nothing more than submissive and subservient accessories for the men in their lives. While Hinata was a child, all she wanted was to be in love with Naruto and support him; because god forbid she had any of her own dreams or desires. When she becomes an adult, her career as a shinobi is effectively over as she’s nothing but a domestic housewife who looks after her husband's children while he has the freedom to actually have a life. Because that’s all women are good for, they’re just objects of affection for men to obtain and once that is done all they’re good for is looking after the kids. They, and Hinata by extension, will never challenge their husbands and only exist to satisfy and please them when they are needed & when they are not needed, they are expected to step aside and do nothing as the men in their lives take action and make all the real decisions. Obviously, western civilization’s track record with feminism isn’t much better, but Hinata is proof that we don’t possess a monopoly over gender inequality. I honestly believe this is why Hinata was so popular with studio Pierrot and the male-targeted demographic of Shonen Jump. A shy and timid girl who inexplicably devoted her whole life to loving you with little to no explanation grows up and is still obsessed with you. Add in her new “attractive” character design and gee, I wonder why she was so popular. Also, just to be clear, I’m not saying that’s the only reason to like Hinata, you can like her for any reason. But let’s be honest, that’s the main reason most guys liked her and that’s definitely the reason studio Pierrot loved her. In contrast, Sakura was the girl who dumped us, who defied us because she was into the cool dark popular guy and how dare she not reciprocate our feelings. Obviously, it’s more complicated than that, and Kishimoto did her no favors as the story progressed, but that’s one of the real reasons why Sakura was so hated back in the day. She rejected Naruto, which meant she rejected us (and by us, I’m mostly referring to the male-targeted demographic of Shonen Jump) and we rejected her so we could be with the girl who was given no reason to exist other than being in love with us. It’s because of stuff that I just can’t go back and enjoy Naruto anymore. The adventure of a kid in the Ninja world and trying to change it for the better just bogged down in so much BS, not just the romance, and in the end, it was painfully clear that Kishimoto just stopped caring about his own story at some point. He used Kaguya to get rid of Madara and Obito. Naruto didn’t really change or save the Ninja world and just reinforced the shinobi status quo. In the end, he took a romance that he, Oda, and his own wife said was based on their real-life relationship and threw it all away.
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
But Hinata had the hyuga storyline outside Naruto in part 1. And the hating on Sakura went beyond her rejecting Naruto...though it does make for good trolling jokes. Sakura us a strong, capable character but it's her actions that made the fanbase go wild. She was used to stir the pot.
@nunouno001
@nunouno001 9 ай бұрын
@@rhuonaChanel While the Hyuga storyline did involve Hinata, it was mainly driven by Neiji (Hinata's male cousin), Hizashi (Her Uncle), and Hiashi (Her father). Hiashi and Hizashi were the ones who forced this rivalry onto Neiji through the former's efforts to enforce it and the latter's desire to resist it. Neiji was the one who suffered the most due to the cursed mark and was the one who convinced Hiashi that he was wrong. Hiashi was the one who apologized to Neiji after his fight with Naruto finally gave Neiji some degree of freedom. Outside of being kidnapped (Helpless damsel in distress) and being beaten to a bloody pulp by Neiji (hooray for violence against women) Hinata had absolutely zero involvement in the storyline. And what happens once Hiashi forgives Neiji, the Hyuga storyline and conflict come to an end and are never touched upon again for the rest of the story. Why? Because the Hyuga storyline wasn't about Hinata, it was about Neiji. Also, it's kind of weird that Hinata's mother and aunt (Neiji's mother) don't seem to exist, it's almost like only the male characters in Naruto matter and actually get to do stuff. I do agree that there were reasons why Sakura left a bad first impression. Her bullying an orphan being the worst. However, the point isn't that she rejected Naruto, it's that she rejected the audience surrogate that most of the audience projected themselves onto. When Sakura rejected Naruto, she reminded most guys of the times when they were rejected by the girl they liked because she wanted to be with someone else and they in turn came to resent her. Combine those feelings of animosity with several genuine bad creative choices and poor handling from Kishimoto and it's no wonder why she was so hated. However, rather than direct that energy into critiquing the author and his writing in a healthy and constructive fashion, they instead chose to attack the fictional character. Sakura was definitely done dirty by Kishimoto and any criticism of the handling of the character should go to him. However, the audience didn't do that and instead did everything in their power to destroy Sakura's reputation with the shipping war against Hinata only dumping an ocean of gas on the fire. The only saving grace is that voice actors can hide in their recording booths and Twitter didn't exist until the late 2000s, so the voice actress was safe from harassment. But believe me, this has happened so many times that it's just sad.
@lxve_585
@lxve_585 4 ай бұрын
That explains why the studio favored Hinata over Sakura so much she’s the living embodiment of a shy submissive person who does stuff for her man and her man only
@Katokhann
@Katokhann 3 ай бұрын
​​​@@nunouno001I agree with some of your points. But i have to know where the whole "dudes projected themselves onto Naruto so they hate sakura" came from. I couldn't stand either her or Naruto's fixation on Sasuke since it border on obnoxious, and I'm not alone in that either. I don't think the whole "She reminds dudes of the girl who rejected them" holds any weight because of how easy it is to point to moments were her character was held back because kishi didn't know how to write her without her being obsessed with Sasuke. I just think the hate for that particular part of her character has more to with the bad writing of her romance with Sasuke, and less to do with "males are projecting". Also "hooray violence against women" ? Neji and Hinata were in a match.
@nunouno001
@nunouno001 3 ай бұрын
@@Katokhann I can't give you a scholarly source or citation to back up my claim, it's just a general phenomenon that is quite common and hard to ignore. Also, keep in mind I'm not saying this is some universal rule or principle that explains why everyone hated Sakura, it's a contributing factor that most of her haters aren't consciously aware of and will deny if you bring it up because it will delegitimize their arguments against her. Most audiences are generally hardwired to project themselves onto the character or relate to their struggle and the author encourages this mindset to keep them engaged and invested in the story so they continue receiving their support. Since Shonen Jump is mostly geared toward teenage/young adult males, they'll subconsciously bring their experiences and connect them with Naruto's story. This helps us empathize with Naruto and we in turn come to feel his emotions while adding our own into the mix. So when Sakura rejected Naruto, we weren't motivated to want Naruto to prove her wrong and end up with her, we instead wound up resenting her for rejecting Naruto and by extension us. Unfortunately a large of chuck of my argument depends on first-hand account during time of release. Growing up reading and watching Naruto, one thing that was almost completely impossible to avoid was the incredibly bad reception that Sakura and Sakura alone received. There were entire message boards, KZbin videos, and early memes that were focused entirely on denigrating Sakura as a character, denying any positive attributes or contributions she had as a character, blaming her for anything that goes wrong in the story in the most severe way (for example, people still blame Sakura for not destroying Obito's Rinnegan and dooming the world and not Kishimoto for breaking every rule in his story by asspulling Madara into the Kamui dimension) and insulting her at any opportunity. Believe me "Useless" was the kindest thing 2000s edgy teenagers called her back in the day. Granted, part of the problem is as you mentioned, Kishimoto's bad writing of female characters, and since Sakura was the main character, he unintentionally kept giving the audience more and more reasons to dislike her. Sakura made a terrible first impression as most of her initial interactions and relationship with Naruto was incredibly harsh and cold, in addition to being overly obsessed with Sasuke. This was further compounded by her being "useless" during most of part I as she contributed very little of value to the story. Combine all that animosity with the shipping war against Hinata, and it was the perfect storm that made Sakura into one of the most infamous characters in the early to mid-2000s internet. However, this same lackluster writing was a staple across most of the female cast in Naruto, yet it was only Sakura who was widely despised for most of the story until Kaguya's appearance. Meanwhile, someone like Hinata, who outside of the Pain Arc, contributed even less to the story and personality is basically "I love Naruto", is widely beloved and admired. Sure all the aforementioned reasons from above are enough to make any character unpopular, but why was the hatred against her so widespread and so personal at times that so many felt the need to tarnish her reputation and rarely criticize the author writing her. To put things bluntly, your average teenager and young adult doesn't have the best media literacy and instead of criticizing Kishimoto for poorly writing a female character, they blamed Sakura for ruining Naruto and wanted him to be with Hinata because she was the "better" option. This brings us back to the core of the issue, people hated Sakura and loved Hinata, and we can see that in their relationship with Naruto, the main character that most of the audience projected. One is the girl who dumped Naruto and went on to become one of the most despised characters in anime and the other is one who was created solely to love the main character and went on to become beloved despite appearing in less than 2% of the story. Again, just to be clear, not everyone thinks or feels like this, but a major subconscious reason for the wide gap in reception can be boiled down to that one difference. We wanted to be Naruto, Sakura hated and rejected Naruto, so we came to hate and reject her, and Hinata was always to devote her entire existence to making us happy, so we wanted to be with her. In short, Sakura was that first crush who crushed our hearts and we never forgave her for that and did everything in our power to destroy her. Meanwhile, Hinata was that shy, submissive girl who grew up to be super hot and only wanted to love us. One is bitter crushing reality and the other is idealized male fantasy. This happens a lot of times with plenty of female characters who are hated because they don't do what the male audience wants them to do. Look at Skylar White from Breaking White, Lori Grimes from Walking Dead, and when it comes to anime, there's no case worse than Sakura Haruno. Lastly, yes, Hinata and Neiji were in a match, but Kishimoto purposely chose to make the scene as graphic and painful as possible for the sake of Neiji's story and Hinata suffered as a result of that choice. He could have just had Neiji harmlessly knock Hinata unconscious, make a sneer, or shout some trash talk at her, and the same point of Neiji not liking the main family would have been made. Instead, he had Neiji nearly kill her and he never suffered any consequences for that choice. Meanwhile, the only lasting impact of Hinata being brutalized is motivating Naruto to defeat Neiji. In the end, Hinata's suffering and pain were irrelevant to her story, she was nearly killed, but it didn't bother her, as long as she got to see Naruto succeed, that's all she cared about.
@leavemealone802
@leavemealone802 Жыл бұрын
I always thought Naruto should have ended with either Sakura or Sasuke And I never even watched the show, and I know naruhina and sasusaku makes zero sense I hope boku no hero don't make the same mistake. Just don't make canon couples, romance in those Shonen stories shouldn't even exist
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
If at a glance it’s making you side eye, that’s how you know it’s a terrible pairing. There’s nothing wrong with having some romance in shonen, it’s how you execute it that matters. If there’s a lack of chemistry between characters in platonic form, don’t pursue it as a canon pairing. Simple as that.
@thecaprikid1329
@thecaprikid1329 11 ай бұрын
​@@DayDayDoeswell said ❤
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 5 ай бұрын
Huh? How much of the plot do you know then? Cuz like...Naruto being with Hinata at least makes more sense then him being with Sakura.
@lxve_585
@lxve_585 4 ай бұрын
@@Jdudec367Naruto has shown more care in Sakuras well being than he ever did in Hinatas the amount of times Sakura both saved his life and Defended him against (Sai and Yamato) her liking him back would of been additional character development for her and it wouldn’t be as much as a reach as him liking Hinata back even though he barely gave 2 shits about her existence the whole show Narusaku definitely makes more sense if you look at it objectively
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 4 ай бұрын
@@lxve_585 Not really. But she has shown MANY times she just views him as a friend, they don't have to be a couple. And nah he cared about Hinata and has stood up for her personally (something he never did with Sakura) so give it time and him liking Hinata isn't a stretch. No objectively Naruhina makes more sense and always seemed more likely and unlike Narussaku wasn't shot down numerous times.
@dimerodicaprio7943
@dimerodicaprio7943 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you hold no punches when discussing about the last movie because I watched that movie twice and was confused both times.
@smananderson09
@smananderson09 Жыл бұрын
Ugh when the manga ended and Naruto and Hinata was together i didn't care at all but and the same time i was pissed cause Naruto doesn't love hinata at all
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the last part.
@markveres7369
@markveres7369 2 жыл бұрын
I hate NaruHina and SasuSaku so much. It's tormenting me every year
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
Top tier canon couples I cannot jive with which ruins Naruto for me when they shoe horn it in unnecessarily in the old material. Maybe if they had a natural chemistry or was developed properly and wasn’t so toxic, I could tolerate it. As it stands, I just avoid anything nh and ss for my peace.
@GeeeksOtaku2020
@GeeeksOtaku2020 Жыл бұрын
Grow up 😂
@dragonempress8367
@dragonempress8367 Жыл бұрын
They are grown up. They're just stating their opinion. That's a terrible insult.
@Sahous4life
@Sahous4life Жыл бұрын
@@GeeeksOtaku2020shut up
@loveablesimp
@loveablesimp Жыл бұрын
​@@GeeeksOtaku2020 They just gave an opinion, no need to be angry:)
@VanLe-gk3ie
@VanLe-gk3ie 11 ай бұрын
For the Boruto anime, the writers turned Hinata into “Kushina 2.0” being an angry mom which doesn’t match her personality. For Sakura, Temari, Karui and Ino, they make more sense since they are angrier in nature than Hinata who is always a wallflower.
@notgadot
@notgadot 8 ай бұрын
Truth 👌✔
@NightMoonNavyCat
@NightMoonNavyCat 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention people were overhyped by that filler episode
@shaiDahan9
@shaiDahan9 3 ай бұрын
She has the personality of a cup holder so it's really hard to do anything
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 Ай бұрын
This is so true.😔🤌
@dgood5707
@dgood5707 7 ай бұрын
I would have had Hinata take some time to think of what to say to Naruto, then just SAY it! I may think NaruHina is cute, but Naruto and Sakura do have more in common and actually know each other.
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 7 ай бұрын
And actually both Sasuke and Hinata are dark and mysterious characters. I don't ship them but they seem to have common traits as well. Both come from entitled families ( uchiha and hyuga) and both lack social skills (antisocials).
@mtk1694
@mtk1694 Жыл бұрын
I love each and every aspect of naruto ( it's a master piece) except romance/ships it's pure crap only simps would say they like naruhina and sasusaku eww.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
Everyone has their tastes, but I can’t stand the way nh and ss are written and justified when it’s so obvious they don’t make sense canon wise. At least admit it SP.
@mtk1694
@mtk1694 Жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes exactly 💯, well naruto would have been better without romance too .But kishimoto did a blunder 🗿.
@wavestation999
@wavestation999 Жыл бұрын
Agree. If kishi sucks this bad at romance, he should have just left it out entirely and just focus purely on story and fights
@mtk1694
@mtk1694 Жыл бұрын
@@wavestation999 exactly 💯, it would have been better.
@malikbrewster6730
@malikbrewster6730 2 жыл бұрын
for me, its the fact that kishimoto had a clearly defined ship in narusaku and then just let Jump walk all over him and ruin an otherwise story perfect ending to a story at the time 15 years running.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
THIS. Like I can understand if some people thought NS was boring or not as great as whatever their personal ship was, but the story was clearly setting it up that Sakura would eventually mature, acknowledge Naruto, let go of the Sasuke obsession because its very unhealthy and toxic, and eventually end up with the hero who did so much for. Instead, her character regresses and Naruto gets the consolation prize he never wanted or even thinks about after he's gotten it. If NH was truly end game, Hinata would have at least been a more involved or at least spoken to the man outside of five pages in 70 volumes. Ugh, it's not fine, but it's whatever at this point.
@malikbrewster6730
@malikbrewster6730 2 жыл бұрын
the real terrible part is when you read/watch part 1 and you can see kishimoto’s passion-- the established foundations for certain relationships are enjoyable and fleshed out. Naruto was my top anime growing up and I knew without a doubt that he would get the proper ending, instead he’s shoehorned into the position after kakashi and tsunade fucked it up, married to someone he never loved with kids who he rarely sees. for someone who went out of their way to big bro konohamaru and take his whole gang under his wing, it seems very offputting that he doesn’t put his OWN children first.
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
Kishimoto never wanted to ship narusaku in the first place 💀 he always wanted to ship naruhina but he’s just really bad at writing romance stories
@mtk1694
@mtk1694 Жыл бұрын
@@mae4life527 he is a liar, well no surprise writers are the greatest liars.
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
@@mtk1694 bro what?
@shreksyq
@shreksyq 10 ай бұрын
The way their marriage was at the edge of divorce in Naruto Retsuden (I believe) too😭
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 10 ай бұрын
Bro, this pairing is a joke 😭 like was all that necessary?? Just say you're not in love and move on.
@samarrahhal6207
@samarrahhal6207 2 ай бұрын
@@shreksyq rumor started by salty Sakuratards still salty she didn't end up with Naruto
@shi304
@shi304 2 ай бұрын
No she was only feeling anxious bc she was scared Naruto wouldn't come home back bc of enemies and danger she was scared about his safety
@maryadhazor8920
@maryadhazor8920 Ай бұрын
Literally false😂
@noname144able
@noname144able 2 жыл бұрын
The "It's a shonen" excuse most people bring up is such a lazy excuse. Both Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood and Inuyasha were also shonen but Edward/Winry and Inuyasha/Kagome were better developed in a shorter overall runtime than NaruHina ever was in 700+ chapters/episodes. What gets me about this pairing is that it's sooooo easy to fix. Just have them talk after Hinata's sacrifice during the Pain arc and have Hinata slowly grow more confident from there, that's it. Maybe have her finally standing up to her abusive father, maybe even have her finally embrace her role as the Hyuuga heir with Neji's support and some sisterly bonding with Hanabi. Just something other than chasing after Naruto for once! It would have been a great way to develop Hinata as a character because she has no reason to act like the stereotypical shy girl at that point in the series. She just stood up to the strongest villain they ever faced at the time! There's literally no reason for her to go back to being a doormat post Pain. It's like whenever her character looks like it's finally taking a step forward, it takes a few steps back and I just can't help but feel disappointed in her wasted potential. There was a filler episode that was about Hinata and Hanabi and it actually brought up a pretty interesting topic. The conflict was that Hinata was struggling to balance having to train being the heir while also trying to be a loving older sister to Hanabi. It was the reason why Hanabi kinda looked down on her for a little while. Why Kishimoto didn't capitalise on this, I don't know. But hey, he was fine taking some filler elements like the Seven Ninja Swordsmen characters that nobody remembers but he still made canon in the manga though! Lol With that said, you could also have Naruto notice her for it and maybe start to feel something for her seeing this new side to her that we would eventually see in Boruto instead of making him go back to Sakura over and over and putting him in that very insulting genjutsu guilt trip in the Last. Like in theory, it's a good pairing, I can totally see the appeal and their personalities contrast each other in the right ways that they could actually work off each other well enough. But like Hinata herself, the pairing is just wasted potential written by an author who actively refused to take advantage all of the tools he was given. It really had the makings of a great pairing and it just sucks it was wasted that even his own wife called him out on. That's when you know he royally messed up with this pairing despite what the obsessive fanboys say, lol The problem really is that Kishimoto prioritised trolling to get more views (that's literally the reason why he kept teasing with that ham-fisted love square, he admitted to it) instead of actually working on it and with SasuSaku..... yeah that was just dead on arrival, xD
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most well-written thought out response that I 100% agree on. Like you hit the nail on the head in one shot. Personally, I don't vibe with Hinata's character at all, but I can understand her appeal to others and if she had been utilized correctly, I think she would have been really great. Instead, we get disappointment and a lot of people are too willfully ignorant and blind to admit that their fave is canonically just one big nothing burger. In theory and in fan fiction, I'm assuming here since i don't read NH fanfic, NaruHina works better there then it does on paper.
@noname144able
@noname144able 2 жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes thank you! I've had the same thoughts as you for a while now and the Last is what made me realise why NaruHina was such a disappointment even though I used to think it was cute back in the day. Honestly, Hinata to me is just a character that got done real dirty. Her character in part 1 was genuinely interesting with her conflict with Neji. The issue is Kishi, and especially Studio Perriot, saw the dollar signs with her and turned her into a generic waifu bait. She had the makings of a great character and the thought of her growing from a shy girl with anxiety issues, pressured by her conservative clan and becoming more independent and confident as she slowly breaks out from her stubborn father's ways is very appealing and inspiring. Not to mention that would be a brilliant way to parallel her story to Naruto's too since Naruto was more or less dealing with the same thing but from the opposite end of the spectrum. It really was there and it's so annoying how it wasn't utilised! Ughh, lol She could've been a female version of Itachi too when you really think about it. A lot of people don't see the parallels between them but it's there. Like they're both older siblings with huge amounts of pressure put on them by their strict dads, they both come from a prestigious clan famous for their eyes and is expected to continue the legacy of said clan, they both have younger siblings that look up to them greatly and were really attached to them as little kids but their relationship got strained due to clan stuff getting in the way and so on. The only difference is Hinata had confidence issues while Itachi did not. The fact that Itachi got what he got really tells me how Hinata could've been so much better and why Kishimoto really has no excuse. And about the filler I mentioned, it's funny because apparently that filler only came to be because Kishimoto really liked Disney's Frozen at the time and he really liked the sisterly relationship aspect it had. Why he never bothered to capitalise on that, I'll never know, lol And yeah, I agree that most people love NaruHina because of the potential it has, not for what it really is. Like whenever I ask them what moments they could think of that makes them so great besides what happened in the Pain and War arcs, they don't really have anything else, lol ShikaTema moments are much easier to pinpoint than NaruHina for a lot of people and that says a lot, lol Honestly, the only great moments for this pairing for me is in Boruto. The first one is when they checked on their kids while they were sleeping. It was cute seeing them act like loving parents and seeing Hinata comfort Naruto about feeling like a disappointing dad. Another is when they were shopping for clothes and Hinata excitedly picked out cute shirts for Naruto to wear that he was embarrassed to try on but in a fun, usual married couple banter way. They had genuine chemistry in those scenes and they ironically add to my frustration with the pairing itaelf. Those moments really show the potential this pairing has/has always had and it keeps annoying me how they actively refused and still kind of are refusing to take advantage of it. Seriously, I've never seen a pairing that's this easy to not mess up and yet somehow they keep finding ways to do it. Like how hard is it to just have them talk? It doesn't even have to be super romantic, just having them actually interact like normal human beings would be enough. Like you have all the tools laid out in front of you already, why do you keep refusing to use it?! Lol
@eddieboston6540
@eddieboston6540 Жыл бұрын
this can all be boil down to kishmoto didn't focus on romance and people give him shit for focusing on the story of contradiction instead of shipping. oh and don't you dare bring up edward/wenry when she was in the story from the start since she fixes edwards arm and inuyasha and kagome the whole story was about them. it was a love story not a battle shonen. the love stuff in naruto was almost not even there at all it counts like only 1% of the whole story.
@noname144able
@noname144able Жыл бұрын
@@eddieboston6540 this excuse again. Why even put it in there at all if you weren't gonna develop it? All it does is it wastes everyone's time and takes the focus away from the stuff that actually matters. Also, no, Inuyasha could arguably be about romance but even then, romance wasn't the only major focus. Inuyasha was also dealing with stuff like how his brother is kind of a jerk, grieving Kikyo, the rivalry with Koga and Naraku planning to corrupt everything. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is far from being a pure romance. The main driving force behind that show was that Ed was guilty he made Al the way he is and is determined to heal his little brother and have his closure with his deceased mother. Winry played a major role but Ed's story did not revolve around her. Meanwhile Kishimoto tried making romance look like such a big deal with stuff like Sasuke's departure, Hinata's confession and the Last yet he actively refused to do anything with it. You can't blame people for criticising him for it because he's the one who put it there. He could've easily just not do any of that if he wasn't interested but he still did it anyway. Like seriously, what was the bloody point of Hinata's confession other than to trigger Naruto's kyuubi transformation? That wasn't brought up again and the main cast acts like it never even happened. Hell, even Naruto and Hinata act like it never even happened. It makes her sacrifice seem even more useless when you realise literally anyone could've done what Hinata did there and it would've achieved the same thing since Naruto was close to his boiling point with Nagato during that time. Can you imagine if it were Sasuke, Gaara or Iruka that were in Hinata's position? Naruto would've been fuming, lol At least Winry and Ed grew closer with each moment they had together. Not to mention the author didn't make a huge fuss about it like Kishi did. A lot of their interaction were just casual conversations with some humor thrown in. The only moment that was treated like a huge deal was Ed defending Winry from Scar but that scene served multiple purposes other than the romance like Scar's development as a character and Winry's backstory. By contrast, the Naruto/Hinata moments were constantly treated like a huge deal and were done specifically to bring them closer. Obito literally stopped his onslaught just so Hinata and Naruto could have their little moment even though he was very determined to break Naruto's spirit during the war and how nice of Nagato to actually let Hinata monologue for a bit when he was very determined to take Naruto at all costs as soon as possible prior to Hinata's intervention, lol The fact that Neji's death was brushed over in favor of the handholding scene is kinda messed up when you really think about it. Hinata barely even reacted to his death and only focused on Naruto's strong hand sends some pretty mixed messages. After these moments took place, the story acted like they never even happened because they kept going back to the same tired dense guy/shy girl jokes until the Last came to do same damage control and it didn't even do it that well but that's a discussion for another day. Like one pairing keeps moving forward while the other keeps making huge steps, but takes even bigger leaps backwards at the same time, you see what I'm saying? The fact that Winry could just say she's in love with Edward so nonchalantly as a teen while she fixes Ed's arm as he complains about it while Hinata was still a stuttering mess in front of Naruto as an adult in the Last even after her confession and their handholding during the war tells us everything we need to know. Also, the Last's very existence destroys your entire argument. If romance wasn't supposed to be a big deal, why was the final movie that focused on the original cast a romance? Kishi literally admitted to trolling the audience with the romance and had no plans for any of it. He just wanted easy clicks. It's not a case of whether these stories are romance or not, it's just that one had great development while the other did not while coming from the same genre, simple as that.
@eddieboston6540
@eddieboston6540 Жыл бұрын
@@noname144able great bring up folk in the main cast not side characters which hinata is. She gets moments in the spotlight but the story isn't about romantic feelings. The story of Naruto has 1% romantic stuff in it but most of the tale is about contradictions in people. Your whole problem is kishmoto didn't focus on romance and that made me mad.
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
Naruto understanding romantic love as the same as loving ramen was so insulting, it was hilarious 😂😂😂😂
@TiltedPotatohead
@TiltedPotatohead 2 ай бұрын
I hate how “The Last” ruined both Naruto and Hinata’s characters. Hinata went from competent ninja to damsel in distress unable to fight or protect herself. Naruto apparently only liked Sakura out of a rivalry with Sasuke which makes Naruto look shallow and hypocritical. Plus it totally abolished Naruto’s whole “I hate people who lie to themselves” motive. Even Sai asks Naruto in the beginning of Shippuden why he never confessed to Sakura, Naruto says he was unable to fulfill his promise to her. Naruto still very clearly liked Sakura even after she begged him to bring Sasuke back. This ship like every other one in the show was poorly planned.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 ай бұрын
Exactly this
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 Ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree and Naruto fans are still rooting for Hinata, even when she turned out to be far worse than Sakura. ☠️ Sakura was despised for acting like a tsundere, but Hinata was overrated for being a yandere weird stalker who simps for Naruto.💀 Wow...🤦‍♀️🤢🤮
@maomi1852
@maomi1852 2 ай бұрын
That's because Naruhina was never meant to be... Plot and dynamic wise Naruto was written (yes, written! Because the anime changed so much stuff...) for Sakura to end up with Naruto. It is a triangle, where Sakura likes the "genius"\"cool" guy but eventually falls in love with Naruto who earns her affection ny showing his determination and unwavering love. Naruto story was supposed to be one from 0 to hero in all aspects of his life, including his love life, where it is shown that if you work at it you can earn the love of your life. But from death threats to Studio Pierrot distorting Sakura's character to favoring Hinata giving her scenes that never showed up in the manga (like amping on her sexyness even as a child with the dancing over water scene that is not cannon) to Studio Pierrot + Editors forbidding Kishimoto to delve into Sakura's character (he wanted to write an arc only for her journey) to Studio Pierrot+ Editors wanting to continue Naruto to Boruto (to which Kishimoto has nothing to do with exccept having his name associated with). Hinata was basically manipulated into becoming a vessel for his kids to have those weird ass eyes/okotsuki powers only for Boruto to exist. It is a retcon, much like "The last" and much like Kaguya (Madara was meant to be final villain ad it is foreshadowed from the beginning of the plot but hey if they defeated the big bad and all villages united where would there be conflict? So they had to pull Kaguya from their ass). So Kishimoto let his intended pairing be destroyed (sakura x Naruto), killed neji (when no else died and also when he had his 64 palm jutsu that could perfectly avoid those freaking sticks) and made a freaking retcon that completely denies the characters development and personality!!! It would have been so much better seeing Sakura get over Sasuke (which I believe she did and she loved Naruto because there are many scenes in the manga, during shippuden, where Sakura almost breaks when she thinks something will happen to Naruto, where she says she only worries about him and there js even the panel in the war arc where both Naruto and Sasuke will probably die and her image is over Naruto and Karin over Sasuke, and Sakura says "don't die on me, Naruto!!" soo...) and having Naruto realize all of his dreams (he always said he never goes back on his word and never gives up so he should be with his first love). They would have a beautiful relationship, filled with laughter, love, understanding and friendship. Sasuke should have died, in my opinion, or never return to Konoha (much like he does now) and be with Karin who understands his pain as a criminal and an Orochimaru pawn, and losing her clan, much like him. Hinata should reflect, after losing Naruto to Sakura on how she should fight to become more powerful and be in charge of the Hyuga Clan as the head (instead of becoming a mousy housewife) and be married to either Kibad or Shino who showed her support several times and were part of her team. This could also give more relevancy to these forgotten characters and let us a husband in a more supportive role having Hinata being the powerhouse. They could still make Boruto... They could lean into having Sakura and Naruto child learning the 100 seals and learn 8 gate and become a broken ninja that could use 8 gate to the max without harming his body (8 gate was what basically rivaled Madara in his final form). Have Sasuke repent and not have children (let the uchiha clan die with him) or have kids and hide them from the villages oe have them be a special op ninja that protected villages from the shadows. Have Hinata and her husband go to a tier beyond the byakugan they know and have kids that are raised free from the shackles of the branch families (master/servant relationship). They could still have Okotsuki... Maybe it would be such a great threat that the new generation could only keep them at bay and only an uchiha and byakugan child could fight them (like Hinata kid having a child with Sasuke kid) I think it would work so much better, especially because Hinata never loved Naruto, in my perspective. What she had was infatuation. She barely talked/interacted with him, she never knew him deep down... Sakura,however, grew up witth him, she was always there for him, she supported him, protected him, saved him and was the first to believe in him and defend him. That is real love. Hinata could grow into her own woman and become strong hearted and find a peaceful, supportive love. Now all these cannon couples are a hot mess... The only cannon couple that makes sense is Temari x Shikamaru. Even Ino how come she ended up with Sai? She always found him similar to Sasuke and handsome, her purpose was entirely superficial ... I always found more interesting for Ino to stay with Choji. She kept calling him pig and fat because she was always a very vain and superficial girl. I found it could be cool for her to overcome her appearance wise preferences and stay with Choji who is a sweetheart that was always there for her. And don't let me start on Orochimaru being allowed to ne a father and go around Konoha like he didn't do tons of underground and nefarious experiments on kids, either deforming or killing many in the process... Boruto is a mess... They only care for end results (powers) they have no care for coherence/plot/character growth + personality.
@Bomber_Fish
@Bomber_Fish Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, the nostalgia i feel when someone brings up the topic that caused the Naruto shipping war in the ancient times..
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, I wasn’t into the ship then but I didn’t really care one way or another. Sasusaku was my fave and now I’m due to make a video trashing that too. I love my character growth 🥰😂
@Westley6578
@Westley6578 Жыл бұрын
To me after Naruto and Sasuke dispel the Tsukiyomi the series ends, and everything else is non-canon lol
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
Me & u 😂😂😂
@Allstar_edits
@Allstar_edits 4 ай бұрын
I agree bro🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
@blackblaze4830
@blackblaze4830 3 ай бұрын
Agree but for me theres one head canon i will believe Guy should have died and he almost killed madara and zetsu at that point fisted madara😊
@Ajsobrainsalot
@Ajsobrainsalot 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Kishimoto had to change hinata’s whole personality too because his wife loves sakuras character and she wanted Naruto to get with Sakura. So when Hinata got with Naruto she was furious! And In boruto Kishimoto made hinatas personality be more like sakuras so that his wife could be happy- lolll 😂
@Ajsobrainsalot
@Ajsobrainsalot 9 ай бұрын
One example of her character changing is when she told sasuke she’d never forgive if he died because she knew how important sasuke was too Naruto (she actually scared sasuke in that scene too which is hilarious)
@faridkhan6037
@faridkhan6037 8 ай бұрын
Narusaku would've been MUCH better. They just destroyed everything with how it was Canon.
@Ajsobrainsalot
@Ajsobrainsalot 8 ай бұрын
@@faridkhan6037 Fr, the best Narusaku moment has to be in the pain arc when sakura hugs Naruto (in Japanese culture it’s not normal for friends to hug for that long in public that’s why everyone in the background were looking away or blushing)
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 8 ай бұрын
He was going to get Naruto with sakura but the studio said no
@Ajsobrainsalot
@Ajsobrainsalot 8 ай бұрын
@@ayhamahmad2277 yea the studio has a bias against sakura
@flyingcatmei6613
@flyingcatmei6613 Жыл бұрын
like, when I found out about NaruHina and SasuSaku is real I was so shocked I didn't even want to watch boruto. like I do like Naruto but the ship with Hina confused me. she didn't even exist to him. like even the side character has more presence then her. while Sasuke and Sakura, assume hated her. I'm not sure how to relationship from him avoiding another crazy fangirl to marring her???? like I don't even know how it works out.
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
She did exist to him though… literally back in og, proud failure speech or in her fight against neji made him notice her 🤦🏾‍♀️
@flyingcatmei6613
@flyingcatmei6613 Жыл бұрын
@@mae4life527 that part yes, but can you form a relationship just on that? idk... she did confess but Naruto didn't reply. I don't think he did? I didn't watch Naruto for a long time, don't blame me lmao
@mae4life527
@mae4life527 Жыл бұрын
@@flyingcatmei6613 that’s why they’re were other parts to build they’re relationship. And when she did confessed in the manga I think she said like but either way, Naruto thought all love is the same and didn’t think they’re were different types of love. That’s what the last movie is mostly abt Naruto learning different types of love, and the true point of his dream.
@flyingcatmei6613
@flyingcatmei6613 Жыл бұрын
@@mae4life527 ooh
@gautaminandi5572
@gautaminandi5572 Жыл бұрын
@@mae4life527 Naruto definitely knew there were different kinds of love prime examples are with kushina and the zabuza and haku in og naruto. Naruto ain't an idiot in love matters unlike goku
@jaykay1223
@jaykay1223 Жыл бұрын
For me Hinata was always just plain rice, boring af and useless. Just a creepy stalker with no personality at all
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
Yup, that's her in Shippuden. Like what happened to the hyuga storyline. In OG Naruto, it seemed her family issues were the main focus if her life and Naruto was a crush/motivation. In Shippuden, it's all Naruto
@yo_koso_9
@yo_koso_9 6 ай бұрын
Read the manga, she never followed him.
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 6 ай бұрын
@@yo_koso_9 so the stalking is just another scene freely added by the animators? 😲
@yo_koso_9
@yo_koso_9 6 ай бұрын
@@rhuonaChanel yep in manga that never happened. She barely saw him in academy years actually alot of her scene were not included by the studio because they hate hinata and were NaruSaku fans. They did the same with ichigo and rukia, same studio btw. One of the director actually admitted he wasn't found of Naruhina, even in bourto they didn't animate only her novel where she goes on a mission and some cute Naruhina scene. There is alot more.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 5 ай бұрын
She has some personality with her being shy and more reserved but she could have used more. She isn't a creepy stalker though.
@Westley6578
@Westley6578 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, everyone in Boruto seem so unhappy you think in this world of peace, they’d be more happy than previous Naruto Characters. But they Seem more happy in the OG you know the world at constant warfare lol
@rizikos_
@rizikos_ 3 ай бұрын
They’re called Studio Pierrot because they’re clowns
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 3 ай бұрын
THIS. I can't WAIT to make the video explaining exactly why.
@amarionm5675
@amarionm5675 8 ай бұрын
Love how Kushina’s dying wish was for Naruto to marry someone like her, which absolutely was Sakura ( someone kishimoto has even gone out and stated was based off of his wife ) But instead the editors pushed for the switch last minute to satisfy the popular ship whilst simultaneously pairing Sakura up with someone that literally tried to fucking murder her in cold blood twice
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 5 ай бұрын
The studio love hinata so much and just look what they did to sakura they cut a lot of her dielog and moments in the manga and the only reason hinata ended with Naruto because she was popular character because of fillers
@maryadhazor8920
@maryadhazor8920 Ай бұрын
Did you watch the war episode Sakura doesn't care about Naruto she loves Sasuke 😅
@maryadhazor8920
@maryadhazor8920 Ай бұрын
​@@ayhamahmad2277not about studio 😂
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 28 күн бұрын
​@@maryadhazor8920 Sakura cared about Naruto as a friend, even if she was in a relationship with Sasuke. If only Sakura didn't have the inferiority complexes which made her seek approval from Sasuke, she could totally have a more fullfiling relationship with Naruto. These complexes she had, were her downfall. Just like Hinata's lack of social skills.
@MrShadowSmith
@MrShadowSmith 22 күн бұрын
​@@maryadhazor8920 I Swear most people are under the delusion pairing naruto and Sakura would magically fix naruto's writing problems. This bitch actively bullied an Orphan, is a stupid yandere obsessing over a criminal. I'm supposed to root for her wtf
@Alar.Lillevali
@Alar.Lillevali 4 ай бұрын
I do not like Himawari eather 😂, glad I am not the only one
@genevieve7676
@genevieve7676 Ай бұрын
Plus her design is fugly, not adorable. Also hate that the little girl characters are sexualized in Ikemoto's art.
@ThePastAnalysis
@ThePastAnalysis Жыл бұрын
This video is phenomenal. Thank you for venting what needs to be said.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
It is an honor to serve 🫡
@ThePastAnalysis
@ThePastAnalysis Жыл бұрын
@@DayDayDoes Hold your head high. Your service is immeasurable. 😊
@meowsquared
@meowsquared 11 ай бұрын
It's honestly really sad. Hinata had so much potential as a character, not even just as a love interest, but as an iconic character within the franchise who a lot of people adored. Her showing at the Chunin exams was a huge surprise and really showed just how much potential she had, when given the proper motivation. Then she basically just got delegated to being a side character again whose only purpose was to simp over Naruto. Some of the part 1 filler did a decent job of propping her up for a bit, namely the episode where she creates the 64 palms defense; issue being that it's literally not even. The fact that she is now essentially just a background character in Boruto is especially egregious.
@shaileshpotula2870
@shaileshpotula2870 Жыл бұрын
These couples were rushed and Sakura gave up her dream to be with Sasuke and Sakura is paying the bills most of the time.
@ancix02
@ancix02 9 ай бұрын
The whole thing is so messed up in many ways, and I'm going to explain what bothers me about Hinata, her stans and NaruHina ship. 1.) Hinata - This is personalized. I just can't like her. I tried to give her a chance and understand her, and I do feel sorry cause she was being abounded as a child in her clan, but that's it. People like to say she was always there for Naruto, but my question is where? If she cared that much, why didn't she approached to Naruto and became his friend. We all know Naruto was always seen as "monster" because of nine tails he had inside him, and that was why he had no friends in the beginning. I've seen people say things like; "She saved him from loneliness," but my question is where? She just stalked him and talked when it was necessary. 2.) Chunin exams - Okay, she tried to fight Neji, who she was afraid of. Cool, but what about supporting your teammate? People like to shit on Sakura for being "bad," but that girl cheered for Naruto and showed her support all the way. Hinata literally said; "I'd cheer for you Naruto, but I can't because of Kiba". I can understand where she comes from, but I still think that's sad because Hinata, Kiba and Shino are team and should've support each other and cheer during exam. I didn't see Hinata cheer for Kiba or Shino. That's just unfair and it just proves that you are a bad teammate. Update: I forgot to mention that she gave a healing cream to Naruto, who was doing fine but in background you can see Kiba being hurt and all. It's just rude and unfair. 3.) I'm disgusted that people like to bodyshame Sakura for being flat (as if it's bad thing) and people only like Hinata because of her big curves and her shy, kawaii personality. Of course not everyone likes Hinata for her breast size, but most people do. You can see any post related to Hinata's looks, and you'll see people say; "Better than flat Trashcan". 4.) People like to say how Sakura is useless because she "doesn't do anything". I agree that in the beginning she didn't do much, but during chunin exam arc, she cut her own hair which represents huge shift for her cause she decided to train to become stronger so she can protect those dear to her. She was trained by Tsunade, one of the best medical ninja's. If you watched Naruto, you know rules for medical ninjas; you don't go on fronts to fight because you are supposed to be the last person who dies because you heal for God's sake. I'm sure Sakura would go out and help Naruto and other fight if she wasn't medical ninja, but since she was, she couldn't. Hinata just decided to randomly jump in order to protect Nartuo, but no one thinks what consequences her actions could have. It could bring everyone present there in even more danger than they already were. Hinata could die there among with Naruto and others, so her sacrifice wasn't something "too powerful" in my opinion. 5.) Naruto and Hinata just don't make sense. I admit that I'm a huge Sakura stan and huge NaruSaku shipper, so my opinion can be more biased, but I can't believe that Naruto ended with Hinata. They barely interacted in all those 700 episodes just for you to get caught in some silly genjutsu and fall in love. It's unrealistic, especially since you loved Sakura for so long and Sakura slowly but surely started developing feelings for Naruto and plus Kishimoto's teasing us with the possible Canon ship. Next thing, Kushina told Naruto to find somebody like her and we all know Sakura is the only girl that fits that kind of standard (hot headed, short temper, anger issues,...) and plus again, Kishimoto doing so many references on compatibility of those two. Next, when you look aestheticly at Naruto and Hinata, she just doesn't fit. Naruto has more brighter colors and is loud, clumsy, goofy while Hinata is completely opposite; shy, dark colors and so on. You might think the opposite is attracting, but it's not always like that. Sakura, on the other hand is more like Naruto. When you look at them, especially in Shippuden, you can see how much close they got to each other and they are being goofy to each other and you can see appreciation for each other's. "But Sakura was always in love with Sasuke and lied to Naruto about her feelings". Okay, she had crush, but who can't guarantee that she didn't fell in love with Naruto later. Check out Chatte Georgiana's video "Why NaruSaku didn't happen" on this topic. She made amazing points about this. Sakura's approach to this might be controversial, but it was definitely coming from place of love. She didn't want Naruto to suffer physically and emotionally anymore in searching for Sasuke and she decided to be "hated" by Naruto rather than put him through pain even more. 6.) Neji's death. Neji is my number one favorite male character in Naruto and seeing him die didn't only break my heart, but it also didn't make sense, especially since he could dodge sticks with his rotation technique, but they had to kill him in order for Naruto and Hinata to get closer which is bullshit. Not to mention that Hinata was left as the only heir of Hyuga clan (Hanabi was too little to take such responsibility) and once she got married to Naruto, she basically abounded her clan. She didn't even tried to fix rules for branch and main side of clan and make it better. We all know Neji was always viewed as "less worth" just because of being part of branch side of Hyuga clan and a curse mark on his forehead. When you think about it, that might bring harm to future Hyuga generation who are part of branch side, so it just proves Hinata's carelessness about safety of her clan. Update: I forgot to mention how Hinata was thinking about Naruto's big, warm hand meanwhile your cousin died right in front of your eyes. It's so sad and disgusting. I know this is really long comment and if you read it all congratulations. I just want to say that regardless of whether you are NaruHina or NaruSaku shipper, you have to admit that the way Naruto and Hinata got together didn't make sense.
@cherry6loom
@cherry6loom 9 ай бұрын
Amazing points!
@InvaderMedia420
@InvaderMedia420 8 ай бұрын
for the body shaming part, I won hundred percent agree. It does piss me off when they make jokes at Sakura’s chest size because who cares especially when 90% of the women in the series giant boobs which I might scared the hell out of me. Part of the reason I like sacral so much is because she isn’t the typical giant boobs. Bad ass but instead, just a simple, ordinary bad ass when Kishimoto isn’t being a dumb ass. I love girls with smaller boobs and it drives me nuts that unless the character is drawn like she’s 12 but actually she’s 300 years old because she’s a witch. The default for female characters is usually giant boobs.
@maomi1852
@maomi1852 2 ай бұрын
Agreed 👏🏻
@Noodles__cheeseburger
@Noodles__cheeseburger 9 ай бұрын
Thats why i ship narusaku Ppl: but Naruhina is canon Me : just let me ship what i want
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 7 ай бұрын
I like sasuhina but mainly as a friendship. Because both Sasuke and Hinata had many things in common.
@SkrubZero1
@SkrubZero1 Жыл бұрын
I like Naruto/Hinata from a concept perspective, though that’s mostly for part 1. It could work if built upon properly and having them interact and improve their relationship gradually. I think a lot of the issues with Hinata are from the lack of time being in the story. Aside from her crush on Naruto and her status in her clan, the dynamics of her relationship with her father and Neji, we really don’t know who Hinata is or what her goals and desires are. There’s so many directions they could have went with Hinata because she was virtually a blank canvas and what we ended up getting was (at least in my opinion) a doll whose sole purpose in life was to get the man she wanted and bear his children. A shy girl with emotional baggage with a crush on what was virtually public enemy number one outside of the Uchiha clan should have been if nothing else more interesting than what we actually have. It’s unfortunate because the Hinata in part one didn’t change any aside from the calendar to the Hinata in part 2. And after everything Naruto went through he gets a huge character regression to the point I don’t recognize my mans? The pairing I grew up wanting and the one that we got are not the same and it’s just so disappointing.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Part 1 is all it has tho. Hinata as a character is nothing in Shippuden. And their relationship sucks after that. They teased their potential but didn't really do anything with them later on.
@keelywimbley4069
@keelywimbley4069 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about naruhina and sasusaku
@bisma1840
@bisma1840 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on naruhina NOT SASUSAKU
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
24:10 On the Hiashi thing, the father-daughter thing should have been addressed in shippuden, either in an arc for sorting the hyugas issue or in a life & death moment in the war arc. Or even become the main underlying theme of the Last movie. It would be great to see Hiashi change his stance and give way to Hinata, but because it is never addressed, his loving grandpa persona in boruto is a whiplash. Plus, i also think in real life, people's opinions change ad they grow. What you thiught was right in your teens might not be so in your twenties. If that is so, then we should give people a measure of leeway for gaining more experience, seeing a different perspective and changing their minds on the beliefs they had earlier on in life.
@Redjay_Lee
@Redjay_Lee 6 ай бұрын
You are absolutely spot on with all these analyses!! As much as I love some ships in Naruto, the way those ships happen are so disappointing/lowkey manipulative
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 5 ай бұрын
Money happened it's very obvious that it was forced they probably forced him to change it because hinata was popular character because of fillers hinata barely exists in the manga and sakes has more moments with Naruto than hinata the studio hate sakura they cut a lot of her dielog and moments in the manga
@DominicWinchester
@DominicWinchester 6 ай бұрын
Even when trying to write something about naruhina in fanfic it's really hard to because naruto himself never did feel the same way for hinata he legit ignored her feelings until the war and the last one of the worst romance movie I ever watch
@noviceman1
@noviceman1 Жыл бұрын
The only way NaruHina works in canon is if Hinata had a teacher from the same age group as team Hiruzen who was in love with Jiraiya like she is with Naruto and if the reason behind Rin’s death was because a character who was in love with Obito blamed Rin for Obito being buried alive and was angry Obito loved Rin instead of her and under the influence of Orochimaru’s curse mark orchestrated Rin’s death
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
That would certainly make an interesting story!
@TecTitan
@TecTitan 4 ай бұрын
Longtime Naruto fan here I remember being a tiny boy on the playground talking to my friends about the debut episode of Naruto and I never stopped loving the series ever since... until Kaguya I guess. The Neji dying thing is something I'm pretty mixed on. I really don't like it as a a forced scene for the sake of the NaruHina relationship. It was already a heartbreaking moment with feelings I still process, but the suggestion it's just for Hinata's socially disabled ass makes me sick. Neji giving his life for the young man who taught him that fate is bendable was so perfect for me. It's no longer that when it's about Hinata.
@dragonempress8367
@dragonempress8367 Жыл бұрын
I am honestly neutral towards naruhina. I don't like it, but I don't dislike it either. It's a healthy couple that was writen wrong simply because it's an action manga. A few tweaks and this ship could've been great! But it's just meh. It was destined to happen and I wish it wasn't. If naruto or hinata were single I wouldn't mind it. I don't even mind that they're together. I don't get the fans that do act toxic over this ship or any ship for that matter.
@jaylonchachere2424
@jaylonchachere2424 10 ай бұрын
I’m a naruhina fan I see this vid to its end, and I agree with your logic. However, I have one thing to say, all the other girls in Naruto have not shown any interest in him romantically but hinata. I know it’s not the strongest reason, but out of everyone in the village who hated Naruto existence that alone is enough for me.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! And that's fair, I just wish it was reciprocated in some way because even in the Last movie, Naruto's disregard for Hinata is so insulting before the genjutsu. And if we're flipping that romantic coin, if anyone deserves to have their romantic feelings reciprocated, it's Naruto's. Boy went through the wringer for everyone else's sake, he deserves a reward.
@jaylonchachere2424
@jaylonchachere2424 9 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes big facts( I agree with you) also, would you mind looking at foxsage’s what if Naruto was a seal master? I think that this might help a little in regards of how naruhina is portrayed. I know it’s a fanfic, but I think it would be interesting to see.
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 7 ай бұрын
Also Naruto was the only guy who seemingly respected Hinata for whom she was, unlike others who just treated her as if she was just a parasite.
@Some_guy_passing_by
@Some_guy_passing_by 3 ай бұрын
​@@missstranger7697 her teammates were MORE than kind towards her , even Kurenai had so much affection for her . But we don't see her genuinely care for these people even once .
@SageSixer
@SageSixer Жыл бұрын
Yes that's all correct NaruSaku should be happening forever! For on Land of Iron and of course THE LAST too for fan animation video better then ever! Believe it!💛💛💛❤️❤️❤️💕💞💖🍥🌸
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
Lol, NS definitely had that peak narrative had it been allowed to end naturally
@SageSixer
@SageSixer Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly NARUSAKU ALL THE WAY AND FOREVER FROM OUR HEARTS!!! BELIEVE IT!!💛❤️🍥🌸💕💞💖
@wavestation999
@wavestation999 Жыл бұрын
NS made the most sense and felt the most natural based on how the story was actually written lol
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 27 күн бұрын
​@@wavestation999 For real and I don't hate Hinata's character at all, but Naruto didn't seem to have any interest in her, but in Sakura. It was her fans who were annoying to me. She is similar to Sasuke but unlike him, she doesn't attempt to kill Sakura.😅
@miggyboy3786
@miggyboy3786 3 ай бұрын
I love NaruHina but Kishimoto fumbled the ship when Naruto just ignored Hinata after she almost died for him in the Pain arc. I feel like Naruto The Last was his last chance to reignite that pairing.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 3 ай бұрын
The least he could have done was have Naruto have a conversation with her after she confessed her love for him. Not ignore her till the end of the manga and then three years after that! As if she never said anything and didn't sacrifice herself in the middle of the Pein Arc.
@ayhamahmad2277
@ayhamahmad2277 Ай бұрын
​@@DayDayDoesshe barely exists in the manga after the chunin examp she doesn't do anything and Naruto never mentioned her you can really tell she wasn't supposed to end with him
@EdsonR13
@EdsonR13 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is I actually like the naruhina ship, but everything you said is right. Theyre a forced ship with no cannon chemistry, they do not deserve to be endgame. I havent watched any boruto yet so I cant talk much on that, but your description of their relationship as adults hurts. 6:15 Also just a quick jump on the sakura hate train for a second, anything sakura did to keep people alive during the battle against pain was rendered irrelevant when nagato brought all the dead back to life. In fact the people who did die were better off in alot of cases (tsunade in a coma cough)
@LamaLKV
@LamaLKV 2 ай бұрын
🥴🥴🥴 nothing makes me more annoyed than Neji has to die for this trash relationship. He was a genius who’s been disregarded and suppressed his whole life. He’s ordered to shrink his dreams and purpose of life in saving the god damn privileged psychopaths in the main branch And after all of that effort he has done for himself he died protecting one of them
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 ай бұрын
He was supposed to be more, but in the end, this was his fate and Hinata gained everything and suffered no consequences. If he wanted people to die, he should have picked better.
@LamaLKV
@LamaLKV 2 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes exaaaactly he ruined a character with so much potential who went through a lot and pay tremendous effort in developing his skills, techniques, personality, idiology
@LifeHater2610
@LifeHater2610 3 ай бұрын
NaruHina is a forced relationship in the Last Movie, i mean throughout 720 Episode they never even had a good conversation and become a couple, yeah that's trash (i don't hate Hinata, at least she not annoying like Sakura) But i prefer Naruto x Sakura because they been there for each other throughout the entire series.
@Marrianno
@Marrianno 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Hinata sacrificing herself for Neji whould be more beautiful thematically, and it whould be in character for her! She has a pattern of jumping in to sacrifice herself
@abigailaceves9230
@abigailaceves9230 2 жыл бұрын
This video got me think about Sessrin and how their relationship is handled. I’m not really familiar with the Naruto franchise, but I have heard about its poorly handled representation of its females characters. For the way the Naruhina ship is described is pretty messed up, in compare with Sessrin, Rin is mostly around Sesshomaru for the majority of her screen time yet was given a background which explains her reasoning & was given autonomy by Sesshomaru himself. It’s just a shame Yashahime didn’t explore their relationship more or that the sequel just went from a show with potential to a disappointing & infuriating sequel. Anyway, those are just my thoughts that got me thinking & sorry if you enjoy Yashahime.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I was hoping they would give us some background on or flashbacks on how the SessRin courting happened but they really ended up jumping straight into the thick of it, which is okay, but not as conducive if you want to sell the love story aspect for Yashahime and have us invested in Rin's demise. But yes, SessRin has FAR better chemistry and character interaction than NaruHina and it was all platonic in Inuyasha! I'm crying figurative tears 😭
@abigailaceves9230
@abigailaceves9230 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there’s a manga version of Yashahime by Takashi Shiina that has been going out since last year (which is SO much better than the anime, BTW) & I heard that there’ll be a shot or storyline where the early wedded days of Sessrin. I HIGHLY recommend the Yashahime manga; so far, it’s SO good. Just one question; what do you mean by Rin’s demise?
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 2 жыл бұрын
@@abigailaceves9230 👀 BET. I know what I'm doing after this lol. As for Rin's demise, I just meant the threat of death during the anime. If I'm gonna be gasping crying because Rin is being endangered, I need more context about her because it's been years since the OG Inuyasha anime
@abigailaceves9230
@abigailaceves9230 2 жыл бұрын
Got it. Sorry that I misunderstood. Well, hope you’ll enjoy your day.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Sessrin is disgusting. I hate how they made Seshomaru a groomer in the end.
@kelsey1406
@kelsey1406 10 ай бұрын
Even if there was development, I still don't like NaruHina.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 10 ай бұрын
That's fair lol
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 Ай бұрын
Me neither. Hinata should have stayed single or be friends with Sasuke. And Sakura be with Naruto. Just my opinion.
@caxtillo9876
@caxtillo9876 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I never saw the appeal of NaruHina. It was nothing but a childhood unrequited love on Hinata's part. Naruto never showed interest in her. She was just another face in the crowd. Her personality was loving Naruto, and that’s just sad and pathetic. Hinata could have had potential to grow if she would have let go of her stupid crush on Naruto. Instead of doing things to get him to notice her, why didn't she do things for herself? Just like how she saw Naruto grow and build himself up, she could have done the same for herself. But no, it was just "N-Naruto kun" and faint. She didn't grow as a character at all, and was rewarded for doing absolutely nothing. Personally i would have perfered Naruto to end up alone with adopted kids, or have a different partner who he acrually has chemistry with. I don't care for "forced" romance. I could go on, but yeah i agree with you. I don't even want to get started on Sakura and he that shall not be named. 😒
@missstranger7697
@missstranger7697 2 ай бұрын
It is a similar ship contrast to Miraculous Ladybug, where the heroine named Marinette Dupain Cheng, just like Hinata had a crush on Adrien but instead of improving for herself, Marinette became just a stalker for him. Just like Hinata did with Naruto.
@Marrianno
@Marrianno 2 ай бұрын
SP bend over backwards to prevent Naruto and Sakura from beconing canon, and they made an hour long movie (shitty fanfiction) to justify Hinata and Naruto being together. Heck, they went as far as to butcher Narutos character entirely. So its weird that after that SP just sorta dropped this ship? You'd think for how much SP rooted fpr NaruHina, theyd show more chemistry between them.
@RhiannonSenpai
@RhiannonSenpai 9 ай бұрын
Have you watched the Bikōchū Search Mission filler arc in the original series? It had a lot of Naruhina moments and Hinata is a badass in those filler episodes, she's not "just a bland" character as you describe her as. It's a pity Hinata had such a tiny amount of screen time in Shippuden, we didn't have more scenes with Hinata to show her development.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 9 ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t watch the fillers, it’s non canon to me 😭 but I’m glad it paints Hinata in a better light because Kishimoto sure won’t do it 🫤
@1st2nd-dp9uu
@1st2nd-dp9uu 8 ай бұрын
It's FILLER which means it's non-canon.
@Some_guy_passing_by
@Some_guy_passing_by 3 ай бұрын
Imagine when they had to insert filler after fillers to make a ship canon .
@AlyssaJ14
@AlyssaJ14 5 ай бұрын
You are spitting FACTS with this one! While this ship definitely isn't as toxic/problematic/etc. as Sasusaku, it honestly bothers me WAY MORE because it has just no development until The Last. And if you NEED a (bad) movie to create and justify the ship, there's a problem. At least Sasusaku was a consistent possibility from the beginning, even if Sakura definitely SHOULD have moved on considering... everything. Personally the fact that Naruto and Hinata interact for less than 50 pages out of a 700 chapter series AND she literally confesses to him only for him to forget and never address it tells me everything I need to know. And then after their "bonding moment" at the cost of Neji's life he STILL calls Sakura his girlfriend? Yeah, no. You're so right about the character assassination in The Last, too. Naruto KNEW what love was and they really had to retcon that to make their terrible ship work? They couldn't have just had him either confess to Sakura and get rejected, or move on after seeing she'll always love Sasuke? It would have been EASY to end the lingering thread of Naruto's feelings for Sakura, but they chose the worst most stupid option possible. Dunno if you're familiar with Bleach, but Studio Perriot had a similar bias with that one where it favored Rukia and Ichiruki at the expense of Orihime and Ichihime. And Ichihime was canon in the end (which upset a lot of anime-only fans since the studio had really tried to downplay it), but it ended up being Naruhina done WAY right IMO. Hinata was irrelevant to the end while Orihime slowly progressed from a side character crushing on Ichigo to the main heroine fighting the final battle at his side. Tite Kubo stuck to his original plan (Ichihime was obvious in the pilot chapter that got the series officially greenlit!), and the majority of fans knew which ships were coming. It's only the ones clinging to a ship and story dynamic that had faded out 300+ chapters ago that were salty. We'll never know if it's true that Naruhina/Sasusaku was the original plan or just a bad excuse by Kishimoto. I honestly hope it's the latter, because I'd prefer to think he had to cave from pressure from his editors and "fans" than to think his writing was THAT BAD. The endgame ships should never be a plot twist - that's the one thing readers need to see development for. And Narusaku, the "red herring", got ALL the development. It had flaws but it would have made sense as canon which is more than I can say for what we got instead.
@SkrubZero1
@SkrubZero1 Жыл бұрын
Does Hinata even have a moment with her sister in the manga? Because I don’t remember seeing them together at any point during.
@xcheekymonkeyx
@xcheekymonkeyx Жыл бұрын
IM GONNA SAY IT... sakura should have ended up with rock lee and naruto and sasuke were so obviously gay and i will stand by this statement until i die
@wavestation999
@wavestation999 Жыл бұрын
Lee shouldn't have been relegated to the sidelines, let my hard working boy shine and get the girl! 😭😭 And if Kishimoto didn't want to go the gay route then idk just make Naruto or Sasuke a girl and shit would make a lot more sense.
@luna__00h
@luna__00h Жыл бұрын
i never disagreed so much in my life
@rhuonaChanel
@rhuonaChanel 9 ай бұрын
Naruto is the only anime that the romance is written so badly, the fanbase is convinced that the main characters (deuteragonists) are gay 😂😂😂😂😂
@mandystarr404
@mandystarr404 9 ай бұрын
most viewers are dudes if naruto was gay it wouldn't be in the big 3 and that's fax, they should have just dropped the romance and focus on the plot
@xcheekymonkeyx
@xcheekymonkeyx 9 ай бұрын
@@mandystarr404 im not gonna say ur wrong, but i still do find it funny that kishimoto wanted them to be together but the editors were like"nah miss me w that gay shit"
@missy7871
@missy7871 Ай бұрын
I'm really glad I eventually stopped reading and watching naruto/boruto... after everything, I ust feel like kishimotos writing was not worth my time anymore.. It's frustrating to see how he treats his female characters, and especially Hinata,,,, the MCs LOVE INTEREST,,,, suffers the most from it.. like aaaaaaaaaa go off girl thanks for the video 😂❤
@hanadunn7297
@hanadunn7297 2 ай бұрын
Yeah was unaware that Naruhina was forced ship when I was into Naruto but now that I have been watching more anime and other forms of entertainment, can now see that it would have been better if Naruto and Hinata ended up with different people plus trauma bonding only gets you so far.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 3 ай бұрын
Naruto the Last just changed everything. It was like after the war, it’s a whole other timeline… as if it was Infinite Tsukuyomi or something!!
@kokroughtoss1257
@kokroughtoss1257 11 ай бұрын
The Sponsorship almost sounded like Deidara's. As if we needed multiple explosions for artistic expression. Nah but for real, thank you for making this. It's funny. My enjoyment of this franchise burnt out a long time ago for similar reasons established in this video. Back then, I could never really express those thoughts properly due to my anger, stress, and my own inferiority complex. It's nice to hear someone who shares my thoughts but with a passion for Naruto still warm enough to discuss them in a productive manner. Your enthusiasm reminds me of the simpler time when I still enjoyed this story before all the shipping wars burnt me out. Like a brief nostalgia. I thank you for that.
@subhradeepghosh8263
@subhradeepghosh8263 Ай бұрын
So Hinata threw her life to protect you from pain and even directly confessed that she loves you Naruto: yes, now I'm going to introduce Sakura as my girlfriend to my dad!
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Ай бұрын
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!
@TiltedPotatohead
@TiltedPotatohead Ай бұрын
In that instance I believe Naruto was trying to follow his mom’s advice and find a woman like her….. but I thought NaruHina was planned from the beginning? Hinata is nothing like Kushina and they made her act like Kushina in Boruto which makes no sense because she never acted like in the show before and that’s not her personality. It feels like Kishimoto can’t be decisive. Is it NaruSaku or NaruHina? Pick one and stick to it.
@izachi-chan2432
@izachi-chan2432 6 күн бұрын
​@@DayDayDoesYou do know that Naruto was nervous at that hour by seeing his dead dad literally in his face, right? You can read the manga instead of watching the anime, since its clear you don't do that. Minato asked a question, Naruto just agreed, as it tends to happen when you're nervous. Because you know. Dead dad. If any other girl was there with him, the response would have been the same
@izachi-chan2432
@izachi-chan2432 6 күн бұрын
​@@TiltedPotatoheadNaruHina is MinaKushi But Minato is Hinata, and Kushina is Naruto And no, Hinata is not acting like Kushina in Boruto. She's still the same character, she's just a stricter Mother because, duh, that's just what happens when you're raising kids (let alone two of them like damn, my boy Naruto sure went busy for someone who "doesn't love his wife" LMAO) so of course she couldn't keep her passive attitude with her kids. You can't raise a child if you don't show some confidence
@TiltedPotatohead
@TiltedPotatohead 4 күн бұрын
⁠@@izachi-chan2432 We never saw her acting strict before. Hinata is NOTHING like Minato
@alishbaakhann
@alishbaakhann Жыл бұрын
The artwork looks sooo goood😭
@bhuvaneshs.k638
@bhuvaneshs.k638 Ай бұрын
Boruto series completely destroyed Naruto character to the core. Considering he can spawn multiple shadow clones with ease. There's no way he would sleep on couch & abandon his wife and kids. This is such a disgraceful writing
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd
@KhalilMurray-ei1rd 26 күн бұрын
I personally like the relationship
@KuroNeko22949
@KuroNeko22949 9 ай бұрын
1 year later but I need to point out, they used a genjutsu, even tho naruto CANNOT BE AFFECTED BY THEM, why? because kurama can basically get rid off them the moment naruto fell into one, so yeah, take your own conclusion
@DB-rp2gj
@DB-rp2gj 11 ай бұрын
I feel like i was cheated with NarutoxHinata. I was hoping beyond hope that Sakura would finally get her shit together and realize how much Naruto loved her and they ended up together. It always made me mad.
@mionara
@mionara 9 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said, yet I'm wondering who Naruto should have ended up with. He's such a great person, he's so precious and everything I wanted was to see his happy end, but with who else? with Hinata, I don't think we can consider as a happy ending... but it's the same with Sakura and anyone else I can think of. but still, Naruto had never felt the real love of having a family and I really wanted him to experience it, but who could give him that? he could have adopted a kid like Gaara did, but would it really give him the feeling of having a loving family? well I'm not sure, what do you think of that?
@mionara
@mionara 9 ай бұрын
sorry if english is not englishing I'm not fluent yet lol
@FangLeng-lh4gn
@FangLeng-lh4gn 7 ай бұрын
nah, the pairing we got was perfect
@yuhhare2441
@yuhhare2441 7 ай бұрын
​@@FangLeng-lh4gnthen why are you here ?
@FangLeng-lh4gn
@FangLeng-lh4gn 7 ай бұрын
@@yuhhare2441 maybe to see the other people's take, to share my take with them, blah, blah, blah
@yuhhare2441
@yuhhare2441 6 ай бұрын
@@FangLeng-lh4gn oh,I see So I just hope that when I come to NaruHina side to say how terrible the ship was,they didn’t get offended by my words then mad at me then,as you said
@IchigoKurosakitheSalvation
@IchigoKurosakitheSalvation 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, Naruto and Hinata doesn't bother me as much. My problem is Sasuke getting with Sakura. That's the number one ship that will always irk and confuse me
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 5 ай бұрын
That too
@UzumakiNaruto-b8n
@UzumakiNaruto-b8n 7 ай бұрын
and guess what about that movie? Naruto somehow uses shadow doppelganger before he even learns it from the scroll and he is somehow put under a gentjutsu despite being him a Jinchûriki
@blackman7186
@blackman7186 Жыл бұрын
Bruh SasuSaku as a term sounds so bad
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
I've been hearing that for years so my ears are jaded lol
@ismaelrodriguezbarrero4945
@ismaelrodriguezbarrero4945 2 ай бұрын
Naruto never felt anything for Hinata and now all of a sudden they marry? Naruto didn't even acknowledge Hinata when she sacrificed herself against Pain and declares her love...
@flamekiller32
@flamekiller32 Жыл бұрын
subscribing for the sasusakura can't wait to hear you rant when it drops =)
@unripetheberrby6283
@unripetheberrby6283 Ай бұрын
14:02 Does Fluttershy and Discord from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic count lol? 🤔
@BluemoonLacrymosa
@BluemoonLacrymosa 2 ай бұрын
It’s so weird how people and SP pushed so much. They didn’t interact and anything that people try to use to justify as “Naruto caring for Hinata” can literally be replaced by a number of other people. No one can tell me that if Sakura, Shikamaru, Iruka, Kiba, or anyone else had jumped in to fight Pain that Naruto would’ve reacted any differently. The fact that nothing came of her confession makes it not important. The Last was almost on the level of brainwashing and full on retcons to justify a non-existent relationship
@hanae4512
@hanae4512 4 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. I'm personally either Narusaku or SNS (narusasunaru). I would be happy with either of these ships. I literally avoided Boruto for so longgggg. In my mind it ended when Shippuden did. Eventually, I tried it out. Checked out like 50-100 episodes of Boruto. I didnt like it lmfao. I can't stand Naruhina as much as I cant Sasusaku. If there was a good ship in naruto it would be ShikaTema or MinaKushi. I can't even begin to express how shitty Naruto the Last is. Suddenly Hinata and Sakura are bestfriends and Sakura's pushing Hinata to confess to Naruto? Like she doesn't know that Naruto likes her? Huh? That stupid genjutsu with the stupid ass scarf is stupid asf. And their little adventure, having absolutely zero sense of urgency that Hanabi was abducted, making it seem like a little date with Hinata tripping over the broken bridges like what kind of shinobi makes such elementary mistakes, just so Naruto can help her up. Bffr. And when Toneri attempts to abduct her in the first part,,, no sense of danger and she doesnt even fight back huuuuh only going "Let me go!" Girl use yo damn gentlefists. Literally just so Naruto can play hero again. The starting part where Hinata is getting bullied..... thats literally Sakura's back story. Girl, there's literally more in the world than a man,,,,, how can u be so unchanging for your entire life?
@hanae4512
@hanae4512 4 ай бұрын
And she literally fainted a lot. Like everyone was busy powering up and then she meets naruto again in shippuden and the first thing she does is faint..... girl,,,,, stand up plssss it hurts to see.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I did not appreciate the studio taking Sakura's backstory. In the manga its stated that the Hyuuga clan is a well-respected clan in the NINJA village, not to mention Hinata, the heiress to the over-surveillanced clan who is paranoid anyone would take their eyes, would not be caught dead outside the clan compound BY HERSELF. She didn't even get far when someone tried kidnapping her. I would imagine a Hyuuga gaurd would be vigilant that the family heiress arrive to and from the ninja academy unscathed. Like be so ffr
@azuregrace214
@azuregrace214 3 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes She was kicked out of her clan to work as a child soldier, what do you mean?
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes 3 ай бұрын
@@azuregrace214 she was never kicked out of her clan. Disgraced and slighted maybe by her family within but not once was she living outside the compound.
@azuregrace214
@azuregrace214 3 ай бұрын
@@DayDayDoes Hiashi literally gives Hinata to Kurenai and tell her to leave. When Kurenai asks Hiashi if it's okay if Hinata died as a genin, he says it's alright. If that's not getting kicked out idk what is. Maybe she lived in the compound after she was kicked but we see her training outside of the compounds until her palms bled in her backstory, so we don't know it for sure, but living in the compound is probably worse for her considering Hiashi. Neji in his fight mentions her past trauma as "mental and physical suffering" so she was probably beaten day in and out as a child by Hiashi too, which probably do explain why she's acting like an abuse victim.
@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane
@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane 6 ай бұрын
Nothing about that ship makes sense, they just matched the two up because of the fandom of them liking Hinata because of her chest size and her dendere shy side. The last movie was just the writer's way of promoting the mid and making half of the side of the fandom happy, I won't blame the creator for the poor writing because we all have our weaknesses is stuff.
@ferrerarah9454
@ferrerarah9454 3 ай бұрын
But what do you think about crack or fanon pairings like NaruIno, SasuHina, SakuLee, do you think they would had made more sense, had they were given some/more moments? Because to me, these pairings have great potential.
@rubenlopez8522
@rubenlopez8522 3 ай бұрын
I would say that they are couples that made for an interesting dynamic, but the story that wanted to be told did not allow for that, necessarily many things had to change as well as the direction of the story for them to be credible, especially Sasuke who reaches a point sees himself as the final boss to defeat and see how the path of revenge consumed him completely, and only a tragic end awaits what was once team 7.
@ferrerarah9454
@ferrerarah9454 3 ай бұрын
@@rubenlopez8522 true I think for these pairings to happen, Ino should had been on team 7 instead, show more bonding with Naruto, and Hinata made less obsessed about Naruto and given more screentime as well as moments with Sasuke, the same way they are now trying to do with Sumire and Kawaki what they didnt do with Sasuhina
@MaestroGrey
@MaestroGrey Жыл бұрын
Pee-uh-row It's a type of character from French pantomime.
@SteelSquishy
@SteelSquishy 3 ай бұрын
why is it call ship? they pirates?
@chinmaywelapure1268
@chinmaywelapure1268 6 ай бұрын
Some super genjutsu Toneri did ig... I mean what the hell was even NaruHina? If not for NaruSaku, they could've just made him pair with any of those filler characters..🤌🏻 That bs movie feels more like Madara would come out anytime now and would say, is that what you wanted?
@JotoheKian
@JotoheKian 2 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: most (if not all) romance in Naruto kinda sucks. Some to a medium, some to an extreme degree. I would much rather there weren't any pairings and we finished the series sometime after the war, no significant timeskips involved. Perhaps that moment when Naruto and Sasuke say their goodbyes once again, with Sasuke embarking on another journey and with audience not knowing how any of future relationships will turn up, but feeling hopeful that they all will likely find their happy endings. Whatever those might be.
@ohno7153
@ohno7153 5 күн бұрын
best ship in naruto in my opinion was temari and shikamaru.
@JotoheKian
@JotoheKian 4 күн бұрын
@@ohno7153 I agree, they were one of the few ones who actually sort of worked. At least they seemed to have a respectful relationship.
@ananana5200
@ananana5200 Ай бұрын
Sorry but, what is the program you use for drawing?
@Marrianno
@Marrianno 2 ай бұрын
I litteraly hate how Kishi, after developing NaruSaku for years and teasing readers with this ship sideently made NaruHina canon and had the audacity to say that it was all planed, that NaruSamu was just a red hairing ti distract us. Let's be real, whether you like NaruSaku or hate it,wherter you think NS is toxix or not, it was much more developed. NS had more screentime and buildup, with more believable chemistry.
@Kaleidoscope235
@Kaleidoscope235 6 ай бұрын
I love Naruto, it was my favorite show growing up, but it's soooo poorly written!!. Naruto per se is pretty contradictory, all characters are (except maybe shikamaru), he was supposed to be the guy who had nothing but by working really hard he became the hokage, but we all know that's not the case. What they did with Itachi's character arc (my favorite character) was awful, had no sense and was pretty stupid, since all the crimes he commit would make more sense is he was truly evil, I mean the guy was basically a terrorist. And What they did with Hinaya father in Boruto it's similar to what they did with orochimaru in Boruto, like are we now supposed to like this wholesome and gentle guy here in Boruto and forget all the messed up shit he did in Naruto? smh 🤦🏾‍♀️
@karlluigi1987
@karlluigi1987 Ай бұрын
naruto and sasuke have a better pairing, they should have marry each other.
@tstar9158
@tstar9158 9 ай бұрын
I stopped watching narotu because of this forced narohina thing
@narutoanime5012
@narutoanime5012 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I support narutoxshikamaru. Granted, I don’t think he was necessarily gay, but I would lean towards Shikamaru being bi or asexual with his general lack of sexual interest in people (except Temari) and him finding women troublesome and only saying he wants a wife and two kids as his duty and what’s expected of him as clan head and is less troublesome than a non-typical relationship. I think of everyone with good chemistry; it would be these two. Shikamaru never mistreated naruto and included him in games as children, even asking his dad why the adults treated Naruto badly. Moreover, I think out of all the characters, Shikamaru was one of the first to believe naruto could be Hokage and was even willing to support/aid him in achieving his goal. Not to mention them bonding with each other over the deaths of their senseis. Them being there for and supporting each other when they needed it. I think it would be understandable for interest and a relationship to grow between the two. Not to mention them working together as adults in the Hokage tower could strengthen/stabilize their relationship, as compared to any other couple where being Hokage/busy working all the time could create a wedge in a relationship. They also fill in each other gaps, with naruto pushing Shikamaru, and Shikamaru being the voice of reason on things naruto may have overlooked/forgotten.
@DayDayDoes
@DayDayDoes Жыл бұрын
Naruto definitely had better chemistry with Shikamaru than Hinata that’s for damn sure
@wavestation999
@wavestation999 Жыл бұрын
At least Naruto actually likes Shikamaru 🤣
@TheMysteriousInsect
@TheMysteriousInsect Ай бұрын
Ppl say NaruHina is bad… when SasuSaku, BakuDeku, MadaSaku and BakuOcha exist.
@izachi-chan2432
@izachi-chan2432 6 күн бұрын
Literally lmfao Hardcore on BakuDeku. I really can't stand people who ship bullies with their victims
@TheMysteriousInsect
@TheMysteriousInsect 6 күн бұрын
@ mhm like how could u date someone who LITERALLY told you to jump off a building 🙏 and in general why would you be friends with someone like that?
@crshnaisinsane
@crshnaisinsane 4 ай бұрын
but this kinda story is what we can relate to right?😅
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