Naruto VS Shinobi Alliance

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Seth

Seth

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@Beefer300
@Beefer300 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I wasn't there to specify which version of Naruto I wanted but yall got it 🐐
@JottoHearthStone
@JottoHearthStone 2 жыл бұрын
8 gates guy is the only one that can deal with KCM 2 right? although, it's actuallty possible there would be so many clones that guy runs out of gates before he kills him, depends on how naruto fights and luck.
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 2 жыл бұрын
From what we seen of might guy he can’t identify real shadow clones and guys bones were disintegrating mid fight and he can’t use night guy in a crowded area
@gameuniverse5973
@gameuniverse5973 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 he can just be told by the sensory people who the real Naruto
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@gameuniverse5973 they would all be dead dude also he is might guy do you think standing near him would be a good idea and even then he doesn’t know where exactly the stick is for what he knows it could be buried under ground hell there could be five other tree branches to disguise that one nobody except madara can see through shadow clones
@gameuniverse5973
@gameuniverse5973 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 Madara can see through wood clones which are different than shadow with shadow clones any good sensor can see the real one they literally have ao with a Byakugan who with neji can see who the real one back in part one
@gameuniverse5973
@gameuniverse5973 2 жыл бұрын
@Blesson Franklin because Naruto spread his Charkra evenly your telling me Naruto with a thousand would be able too do a similar thing with Kurama he did like five or six in part one he would need too do it for a thousand evenly
@xr0ninx569
@xr0ninx569 2 жыл бұрын
I like how not only did Naruto boost the entire alliance but the cloak was enough to tank an attack that Kurama thought was dangerous. The fact that Naruto could spread his chakra to protect normal ninjas against 10 tails level attacks is just as impressive of a feat imo then cancelling out the 5 tailed beasts bomb.
@beersstrainsgames638
@beersstrainsgames638 2 жыл бұрын
HE LITERALLY SHARED HIS CHAKRA WITH THE ENTIRE ALLIANCE ITS NO CONTEST HE WOULD SLAP THEM IN THE FIRST 2 FORMS MUCH LESS 6 PATHS
@corey9014
@corey9014 2 жыл бұрын
Your forgetting 8 gates Guy, who essentially could kill every form below six path with one shot
@alexgnav2515
@alexgnav2515 2 жыл бұрын
Well Guy still has the AP scaling to hurt/damage 6 path characters like Juubidara, so you can't just assume because it's Naruto he'd win, realistically only SO6P (Kaguya Fight) Naruto should be able to solo the alliance. Even if you want to infer he has the stamina in KCM2 + sage mode to win you'd have to prove he can beat, EMS Sasuke, The 4 Hokage, The 5 Kage, Guy & Kakashi, Killer Bee, Konoha 12, and the actual thousands of regular shinobi in the alliance.
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@corey9014 no no he can't Naruto blitzes and one shots before he does guy blood lusted still isn't gonna be able to willingly kill Naruto the ninetails could take over for a fraction of a second and kill guy to protect himself and naruto
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@corey9014 also realistically it would take more then one shot to kill any forms in the war plus you act like Naruto is gonna sit there and be blitzed
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@corey9014 guy would also have to deal with clones all dealing and trying to take him on and in speed and sheer numbers Naruto stomps no contest guy even in 8 gates gets wrecked
@fuzzinator9523
@fuzzinator9523 2 жыл бұрын
I'm suprised six thought kakashi and guy weren't 5 kage level
@josiahharvey1315
@josiahharvey1315 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I said😭 there feats was way better than the Kages
@SethYouTuber
@SethYouTuber 2 жыл бұрын
(I personally think they are too but didn't say anything hahahaha)
@HumanB312
@HumanB312 2 жыл бұрын
Does he mean at base or at all
@sirnetflix7162
@sirnetflix7162 2 жыл бұрын
@@HumanB312 Obviously with Eight Gates and DMS, Kakashi and Gai would stomp the five Kage with literally zero difficulty. I think Six meant Base Sharingan Kakashi and Gai are not 5 Kage level. Which I heavily disagree with, Kakashi and Gai perform much better than the five Kage ever did in the war.
@gameuniverse5973
@gameuniverse5973 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirnetflix7162 i don't think base Sharigan Kakashi is above most of the five Kage except for like Mei
@iamdavidreardon
@iamdavidreardon 2 жыл бұрын
Kakashi’s Kamui was capable of warping away a full body KCM2 clone. He was also able to complete a Kamui warp in a shorter time than it took 8th Gate Guy to charge and attack Juubidara. Kakashi is slept on so hard.
@JayJay-xv8ht
@JayJay-xv8ht 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto got tired out after nonstop fighting for days. With him using powerful shadow clones against the edo powerful shinobi. Using up a lot of shakra. As well as him fighting Obito who had all of the other tailed beasts under control. On top of him fighting after that. Then later on beyond that powered up the entire shinobi aliance 3 times Kahkashi level. Then he almost runs out shakra after all of that. Meaning that if the fight against the entire shinobi alliance. Would not cause him to just about fully run out of shakra. Since in the anime he fought with those things stated previously. In my comment and then he amped up the entire shinobi alliance.
@thetruth997_
@thetruth997_ 2 жыл бұрын
All together Naruto fought for 2 days since the alliance started 1 day before him but in those 2 days he had breaks, given chakra by 9tails, healed by Sakura and given 6paths chakra which restored him
@KyubiCloaks
@KyubiCloaks 2 жыл бұрын
Youre forgetting the fact that unlike the edo people the alliance wont regenerate so naruto doesnt have to worry about sealing and can literally do a couple tailed beast bombs and wipe put 95% of the alliance
@yoboyrob201
@yoboyrob201 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth997_ did he really have breaks though? Cuz even if one of his clones stopped, he had hundreds more still fighting. Not to mention, he himself was still fighting. So he truly only got a break when he nearly died.
@Xportbob
@Xportbob 2 жыл бұрын
Love how when Six got to Mei, all he said was “Mei is Trash” had me fucking crying lmao
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
the sad thing is he isn't even wrong. Most of the female characters in the series were done dirty. Kishimoto was a misogynistic and sexist writer
@RareTheSage
@RareTheSage 2 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 I wouldn't say all of that🗿
@rohananil1266
@rohananil1266 2 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 poor guy wanted to write some shounen and has to handle you guys. And tsunade is a pretty goated character. Just cause half the female cast isn't god's doesn't mean he's a misogynist.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
@@rohananil1266 No sympathy for kishi. He knew what he was doing. Maybe you people should stop acting like he's god when other shonen writers did better than him
@kingk.d.m4620
@kingk.d.m4620 2 жыл бұрын
Basically from Sage Naruto and up this is the result “Shadow clone Jutsu! Now don’t say this is unfair you where just doing the same thing only thing to ask do you want them to use KCM mode/Sage Mode or not”
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 2 жыл бұрын
They’ve been using that Kakashi 3 times statement for years and only now they remembered it only applies to when Kurama gave him chakra. When Naruto gives them chakra it’s way more than 3, though it’s unquantifiable unless you do some mental gymnastics with part 1 scaling.
@AyeeShaad
@AyeeShaad 2 жыл бұрын
Uh huh yeah now that you’ve said that dumb shit…Now what? What’s your next course of action
@damienharbin242
@damienharbin242 2 жыл бұрын
Question: If the 8 Gates burns your chakra until you die, would Naruto giving Guy a chakra cloak make his gates last longer? Or would it be the same duration but stronger?
@BibboSama
@BibboSama 2 жыл бұрын
Or would he just not die cause he has an extra reserve of chakra🤔🤔
@Tob10k
@Tob10k 2 жыл бұрын
What if the cloak heals Guy?
@damienharbin242
@damienharbin242 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tob10k I think it might keep his bones from breaking (or at least heal him when they do), so he’s faster/stronger.
@damienharbin242
@damienharbin242 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibboSama I think he’d definitely die. We’ve never seen an 8th Gate turned off voluntarily, so I think it would keep burning until he’s depleted.
@joseole1117
@joseole1117 2 жыл бұрын
what if guy had the 100 healings jutsu?
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 2 жыл бұрын
KCM probably loses because Kurama is draining his Chakra, he'd die before he could win regardless if you think he is strong enough. KCM2, still weakened from the stuff before, scales just to high though, he should win. The only person able to truly beat him is Guy, no one else is fast enough (Sakura/Tsunade can't touch him) or strong enough (Ay isn't breaking the Avatar). And Naruto knows about the Gate's, he's dumb not stupid, he can just hide with Reverse Summoning, Henge so Guy can't see him, or Substitute away until he either surprise attacks him, or if Guy uses 8th Gate and drops dead on his own. Naruto isn't that stupid, he tricks plenty of characters, Guy isn't a problem.
@OveranalyzingNaruto
@OveranalyzingNaruto 2 жыл бұрын
KCM2 and up the real Naruto isn't even on the battlefield. He's off eating some ramen while his clones go clean up the battlefield. Guy can go 8th gate and kill some of the thousands of shadow clones until he burns out. The alliance gets dunked on either way.
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sethtone8634
@sethtone8634 2 жыл бұрын
If not for Kakashi Guy and the 5 kage I just see Sage mode Naruto on his frogs body slamming everyone.
@ericsavala4686
@ericsavala4686 2 жыл бұрын
KCM 1 vs 8 gates, Killer B, all 5 kage, any teammates who know reaper death seal, chakra blocking yamato, other sealings from elders, killer B with tsuchikage speed amp, gaara throwing up sand distraction everywhere and blockages etc?
@jareddanielcunanan4303
@jareddanielcunanan4303 2 жыл бұрын
Kurama: Did you do it? Naruto: yes Kurama: What did it cost? Naruto: My friends.. my sensei's and the innocent people of the hidden leaf Kurama: was it worth it? Naruto: Not on your life
@Anizi
@Anizi 9 ай бұрын
Innocent. Flash of abuse Flashback end I lied it was worth it
@KyubiCloaks
@KyubiCloaks 2 жыл бұрын
The issue is if he wins against all the top fighters, hes not running out of chakra when 95% of the alliance will be wiped with a couple tailed beast bombs
@jarrodkent716
@jarrodkent716 2 жыл бұрын
The question really becomes, would Guy's 8 Gate amp have reached the same level of power without the 2 Kurama chakra amps from Naruto.
@jarrodkent716
@jarrodkent716 2 жыл бұрын
But I'm too cool question marks. 😎😋
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
no.
@6PathsGohan
@6PathsGohan 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto just washes them with KCM2
@OP._.
@OP._. 2 жыл бұрын
This seth guys actually got some pretty aight ideas. He should try making vs battles or power scaling videos or maybe try taking up programming.
@fatherofjman2475
@fatherofjman2475 2 жыл бұрын
I feel if he tried he could unironically oneshot the entire alliance with some kind of six paths super biju rasen shuribomb.
@pcsheep3978
@pcsheep3978 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he can. Lol
@itachikamui966
@itachikamui966 2 жыл бұрын
honestly IMO he wipes out the entire alliance with KCM2 if he still has knowledge of all of them and their max power. all he'd have to do is make 2k clones so guy cant hit him then just spam biju bombs and if guy doesnt dodge he dies and so does the entire alliance but if he does dodge the alliance dies then hes just stuck there playing wackamole with 2000 clones until the like 2 minute duration of the 8th gate wears off. keep in mind 1 naruto clone can make about 100-200 clones of their own so really theres like 400k narutos here which ironically means he could jump the entire alliance 5-1 and still have plenty of chakra left. and i can only name like 2 people that are taking out a KCM2 naruto clone which is kakashi and guy. MAAAYBE onoki since he can fly and his particle jutsu just kills whatever it hits.
@yourworstnightmare7729
@yourworstnightmare7729 2 жыл бұрын
@@itachikamui966 oh yea this is how he wins he just kills the entire alliance before guy even turns 8 gates 💀
@ZzigZaG00NIN
@ZzigZaG00NIN 2 жыл бұрын
is so funny since a lot of the alliance feats are made possible with kurama chakra it might even be more fair if he gave them chakra before the fight anyway 😂
@bino9138
@bino9138 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto literally was the entire alliance
@godman1117
@godman1117 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto was able to make a clone that was able to beat the 3rd raikage, the clone was 1 of hundreds
@christopherfleetwood5252
@christopherfleetwood5252 2 жыл бұрын
Something like 3/4000 clones
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of cap tbh bt yea
@godman1117
@godman1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaekae1782 not really, naruto was really that strong
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 2 жыл бұрын
@@godman1117 all the fights in war arc were gimmicky and ended quickly by problem meets solution. It became villain of the week. Him turning into sage mode and defeating him and half a second is ridiculous. Especially the fact that he did it by the only way possible. “Making him hit hisself”. I don’t take many feats in the war arc seriously honestly. I saw Kakashi be able to defeat 6 v2 jinchuriki in one swoop.
@godman1117
@godman1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaekae1782 ok, well, either way he outsmarted the 3rd raikage then? Idk what to tell you, either way he managed to win with a clone, not to mention he was able to compete with madara pretty competitively pretty soon after that so I don’t think it’s too far fetched
@chaxx0248
@chaxx0248 2 жыл бұрын
six took an L when he said ay > bee
@tezcarpenter9
@tezcarpenter9 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do Sauske vs Shinobi Alliance 🤔
@neo84401
@neo84401 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a yugioh anime/manga power scale.
@domeurylantigua4520
@domeurylantigua4520 2 жыл бұрын
y
@kameronmiller2226
@kameronmiller2226 2 жыл бұрын
you're gonna have to ask swag to do that next time he streams.
@theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437
@theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437 2 жыл бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh powerscaling is beyond difficult considering everything that factors into it .
@kameronmiller2226
@kameronmiller2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437 That shit goes crazy
@ProjectFallenLeaf
@ProjectFallenLeaf 2 жыл бұрын
Man let's be real if naruto was full strength vs full strength shinobi army, Naruto is slapping everyone his charka storage is just to great. Remember naruto was only fatigue because my boy was full throttle since he sealed kurama. My guy gave chakra to everyone in a war fought madara a *God*and still fought sasuke. Naruto is ridiculously OP
@TheHulkbuster13
@TheHulkbuster13 2 жыл бұрын
Obito's army vs kabuto's army?
@raro4043
@raro4043 2 жыл бұрын
I like this one
@joseole1117
@joseole1117 2 жыл бұрын
itachi and nagato stomp the rest. not to mention hashirama.
@CarnageAwakens
@CarnageAwakens 2 жыл бұрын
As clones die he would only get better and better at fighting the enemy until they are tired and predictable.
@jasondarkflame4948
@jasondarkflame4948 2 жыл бұрын
Gave out his chakra to them like a stimulus check and now they gotta fight him?
@MacBoydFanAcc
@MacBoydFanAcc 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto would probably ask them if they wanted his clones to use kurama avatar or not
@tomchester22
@tomchester22 2 жыл бұрын
Bee is not beneath A. They clarified at the same time they let Naruto go to the war
@YoMrRice
@YoMrRice 2 жыл бұрын
Call me stupid but I've always interpreted the Minato/Ay encounter as Ay is saved by Bee who could not only see Minato's movement, but counter it with a tail. He then counters flying raijjn again and has a kunai to Minato's gut while Minato has his kunai at Bee's back.. all before Ay can even understand what happened. So how is it Ay is somehow faster and stronger than Bee. The show goes out of its way to show Tsunade as a rival to Ay and we all know Bee would stomp her. Then you have Bee vs Sasuke and Ay versus Sasuke. This battle is what? Weeks apart? Bee absolutely crushes Sasuke no dif. Twice. Then loses on purpose. Ay loses an arm and probably dies if not for Gaara. Whereas Bee would have globbed off that amaterasu and been fine. So how is it Ay is stronger than Bee?
@itachikamui966
@itachikamui966 2 жыл бұрын
well first i'd like to dismiss ur first part. that was literally like 14 years before the show even started and naruto was like 17(just about to be born when minato fought those 2) when they were first introduced so its not hard to imagine Ay getting stronger because there was a large time period when bee wasnt aloud out of the village cause ay didnt want him to die like his dad (the 3rd raikage) did. and bee says fighting=more strength than training so ay coulda just pulled ahead and stayed there. also you can argue bee was only stronger cause he had recently gained full control over gyuki the 8 tails so that could very well be why for that time period he was stronger than Ay. also bee saving Ay isnt as good a feat as you think cause its easier to react to something right in front of you thats not happening to you than it is to react to something right behind you thats targeting you which is what Ay had to do but couldnt. 2nd.: the show goes out of its way to prove shes physically as strong as ay not that their at all rivals. in a fighting tsunade would just get speed blitz and a punch to the head is gg. 3rd: against bee sasuke hadnt even awoken his ms abilities yet but against ay he had full mastery of the ms and amatarasu AND kagatsuchi(2nd ms ability which is to control his amatarasu) and could use the susanoo ribcage. also yes bee lost on purpose but theres no denying sasuke still damaged him when bee didnt need to be damaged. and bee couldnt of just ate up amatarasu but he could have gotten out of it yes. but thats only cause if you transform then de transform the amatarasu goes away as shown with naruto and madara just removing his armor. Ay>=bee and the show just makes sasuke become wayyy stronger in the span of a few weeks.
@YoMrRice
@YoMrRice 2 жыл бұрын
@@itachikamui966 we will disagree. First two parts are simply your opinion. You're acting like Bee stopped training but the raikage didn't. Bee can easily match the lariat and you've said nothing to disprove what we see during the Minato encounter. That probably sounds good in your head but I've read it 5 times and it makes zero sense as he reacted to something happening to someone else and himself. As for the last part, Sasuke hadn't mastered his abilities. That came later on in the war ark when he's able to use flame control as a weapon and not reacting defensively. So based on what's stated about combat experience, what battles did Sasuke have that made him stronger than his encounter with Bee?
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all remember that KCM 2 naruto was giving chakra to the entire shinobi alliance throughout the war...... also KCM 2 naruto biju dama could stop 5 biju dama from other beast... also the 4 edo hokage are not included in the allied sinobi forces they were summoned by orochimaru to help sasuke make his decision... oh by the way sasuke wouldnt be included in the aliance...... naruto then stacks KCM 2 with sage mode and can replenish his chakra with natural energy which he doesnt have to collect himself he can use a clone to do it.....
@Diezel_Mayweather
@Diezel_Mayweather 2 жыл бұрын
Bloodlusted Naruto is doing to the Shinobi alliance what Ten Tails did Shikaku .
@Ancient_Tribesman
@Ancient_Tribesman 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@susear5939
@susear5939 2 жыл бұрын
8 Gates Guy isn't doing anything. Naruto can make so many KCM clones. You'll need to find the original Naruto and get a Night Guy off on original Naruto before Guy dies from opening the 8th Gate to do any damage. People forget how short of a timespan the 8th Gate was active. Naruto multi shadow clone overwhelms and waits out the 8th Gate. Another thing to not forget. The full Kurama form is hella defensive. Only someone like a Jigen could kick Naruto out of that form. Naruto even make multiple of them in his fight against Sasuke. Granted this was probably with Six Paths boost. That was still a drained Naruto after the Kaguya fight
@Roymoney1998
@Roymoney1998 2 жыл бұрын
That was a Sage of Six Paths Kurama avatar the one KCM2 has is getting shredded like paper by guy. It's relative to the curse mark amped Susanoo Sasuke used. Now whether or not Guy could find Naruto is up for debate but if he does any form under SoSP is dead.
@jaylanrussell
@jaylanrussell 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roymoney1998 You do know kcm 2 naruto has the AP to kill might guy right? And what can guy do against a bunch of biju bombs surrounding him with no support.
@DieHard1912
@DieHard1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaylanrussell First kcm 2 has no speed feats over 8 gate guy.... kcm 2 not even touching, and again his movement stops other things from moving, even hax truth seeker orbs, shown with madara, he could not attack or move, also, clones? any clone that would attack night guy after he is in his move would most likey be taken out by the huge chakra dragon surrounding him, in fact the only thing madara could do was use hax truth seeking orbs.
@BlackMigoReacts
@BlackMigoReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Naw 8th gate guy sweeping any KCM mode sorry not sorry 8th gate guy was 10 tailed one rinnegan Madara level he even had to absorb the god tree during their battle We both know KCM ain’t doing shit to 10 tail Madara at that point KCM clones not even truth seeking level or limbo clones level
@AJ-bg6ko
@AJ-bg6ko 2 жыл бұрын
naruto doesn’t even get a chance to use clones, guy just blitzes him
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 2 жыл бұрын
An argument from a narrative perspective: the point of the shinobi alliance was so that they could stand a chance against the tailed beasts. As soon as Naruto unlocked KCM2, he solo'd literally the rest of the tailed beasts, handily. So KCM2 should easily be over the shinobi alliance.
@allenjoseph3905
@allenjoseph3905 2 жыл бұрын
Can't kcm2 outlast 8 gates, especially if naruto picks the five kage, kakashi, Bee, and the guy uses 8 gates at the end as a last ditch effort
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 2 жыл бұрын
as for might guy (strongest in terms of combat output on alliance) 1) his durability in this form is highly questionable.... even tho hes able to dish out alot of damage and hes really fast hes not faster than naruto who can also use basically infinite clones but he cant tank any hit from naruto be it a punch or a rasenshiruken
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 2 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched all of shippuden and i still don't get what the point of the zetsu and shinobi armies was. Even in the beginning the power cliffing between the heavy hitters and the normal soldiers is so massive that there is just no point in them beeing there. Like it doesn't matter if they are there or not and it just gets worse with the insane amps the top tiers get as the battle continues. Even if it was just madara and obito without the ten tails vs. naruto and sasuke no matter who wins no amount of soldiers stands a chance in taking down any of them who survives the battle. Just rly annoying to watch through how many hoops naruto needs to jump to keep them safe when there is just nothing they can do anyway. Sure i know its symbolic like all the shinobi come together to safe the world but its just not portraied in a way that makes sense. When naruto and sasuke even in the beginning of the battle are already almost equal to all five kage who got trashed by madara without any amps what is a paperbomb gonna do. Even more insulting is the fact that there are these shinobi like shikamaru and his dad who are supposed to be like geniuses and yet they never notice that there presence only hinders the fight. Its all just sooooo pointless when we could have had the same story in half of the time it took if only the people who mattered were there.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
shit writing. Kishimoto had no clue what he was doing.
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 2 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 Well thats a bit harsh isn't it. Maybe he just didn't consider how much power the characters would gain in one arc. This is rly insane everytime i rewatch/read it. In other shonen with huge power escalation like dragonball or toriko this shit is theire from the beginning. Naruto however i don't know its just insane. Only thing he gets in part one is a bit of chakra controll and the rasengan. He gained nothing from the timeskip. Atleast no huge power or jutsu. Then up until the pain invasion he only got a new form of the jutsu he already had in the rasengan. And then in terms of time in the story maybe a few weeks he jumps from high jonin low kage lvl to beeing jesus. I just don't get the authors thaught process hear.
@tameloszn
@tameloszn 2 жыл бұрын
KCM1 is the main argument. Was getting used to the form and out-sped A4, and a shadow clone was able to take on Mu who (if you exclude Hokage) is one of the strongest Kage ever. Is 7th Gates Guy faster or stronger than KCM1? If not, 100 KCM1 shadow clones >> KCM2 and above is just Naruto no-diff. Initial KCM2 with less chakra was narratively shown to pimp-slap an attack Guy was ready to unleash the 8th Gate for (not saying KCM2 is near 8G Guy, rather clearly stronger than 7G.)
@NinjaAimless
@NinjaAimless 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto: AH HAHA HA HA and I only got Half Of This.
@saul_goodman3932
@saul_goodman3932 2 жыл бұрын
War arc kakashi is definitely above the 5 kage.
@dantemitsoyu977
@dantemitsoyu977 2 жыл бұрын
It don’t sound right saying it but I agree
@Farenhyte-
@Farenhyte- 2 жыл бұрын
Are we talking all 5 at once or individually?
@dantemitsoyu977
@dantemitsoyu977 2 жыл бұрын
@@Farenhyte- individually obviously kakashi gets stomped hard vs all 5
@Farenhyte-
@Farenhyte- 2 жыл бұрын
@@dantemitsoyu977 Totally agreed. Just the way we say the 5 kage could be interpreted either way you know?
@dantemitsoyu977
@dantemitsoyu977 2 жыл бұрын
@@Farenhyte- oh yeah I feel you, when said like that it usually is as a group
@logandodge9522
@logandodge9522 2 жыл бұрын
Naahhhh gotta debate you on kcm2 vs 5 kage guy kakashi and bee
@joseole1117
@joseole1117 2 жыл бұрын
Hidan and kakuzu vs shinobi alliance?
@isangL
@isangL 2 жыл бұрын
i think 7th gate guy would give kcm2 issues bearing in mind he has help from kakashi and 5 kage
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with that argument is it relies on the thought that Naruto decides to brawl Guy. Naruto can be dumb but he's not stupid, he uses tricks and traps all the time. He knows Guy and the Gates, he feels pressured he has options to just...Not. Reverse Summon if the 8th Gate is used, Henge into Lee and stab him in the back, use smoke bombs or clones to sucker punch him. Like the entire fight between Sage Naruto and Pain is him being a tricky bastard, he tricks several Kage in the War, he's not gonna brawl if he thinks he'll lose.
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but the thing is that he wouldn't have to fight all of those combined. They wouldn't gang up on him because he would use shadow clones.he can summon a dozen of equal power without fatiguing himself too much and completely ovewwhelm the shinobi alliance. That's what he actually did during the war Arc only he supported them instead of fighting them
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
7 gates guy is not all that im telling you, full kcm2 i mean, 7 gates guy is nothing to mastered kcm2 naruto.
@sunflow57
@sunflow57 2 жыл бұрын
A few Bijuu Bombs and it's over.
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 2 жыл бұрын
Six is literally just the word cap summed up into one person. I cant even describe it but how he argues is so bad. Guy and kakashi not even 5 kage level wtf? Guy did better solo against both white mask obito and madara than the 5 kage combined and he wasnt even using gates bruhhhhhh
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT 2 жыл бұрын
Six do be kinda trash sometimes
@BlackMigoReacts
@BlackMigoReacts 2 жыл бұрын
Daz facts
@unluckyii
@unluckyii 2 жыл бұрын
your opinion tho
@Enja___
@Enja___ 2 жыл бұрын
You're joking right?
@unluckyii
@unluckyii 2 жыл бұрын
@@Enja___ like i said it your opinion what is there to joke about
@doctorfloppa2021
@doctorfloppa2021 2 жыл бұрын
naruto vs the alliance, is it the alliance before or after he amped them several times their normal power lmao
@emssasukeisunderrated7946
@emssasukeisunderrated7946 2 жыл бұрын
The lesser forms, this DEPENDS. Is this more of a timeline thing where KCM1 is fighting the alliance at the time he ONLY has KCM1 (so no Byakugou awakened Sakura, no deep war arc Kakashi, no 8th Gate Guy, etc..). I'll just have the alliance at their strongest (minus 8th Gate Guy & DMS Kakashi) and of course excluding the edo Hokage, since otherwise it'd need to be six paths (since no version of Naruto pre-six paths is stronger than Hashirama) KCM1: Alliance wins ("Base" Byakugou Sakura is relative, MS Kakashi is probably stronger, Bee is stronger, 7th Gate Guy probably stronger and 8th Gate Guy of course mops. Plus Gokage can defeat him together) Early War Sage Naruto: Pretty much same with O.G. KCM1 Initial KCM2: Alliance wins (Gokage may defeat him together given his limited Kurama Mode link. Sakura with 100 Healings may actually be relative or stronger and 8th Gate Guy is of course stronger. Of course this is including the fact he can make KCM or Sage clones so Naruto wins until Guy or Kakashi wins) Mastered KCM1.5: Alliance wins via 8th Gate Guy / DMS Kakashi KCM2: Alliance wins via 8th Gate Guy / DMS Kakashi KCM2+Sage Mode: Alliance wins via 8th Gate Guy / DMS Kakashi Any Six Paths version: Naruto one shots (excluding DMS Kakashi, who probably beats Naruto until Asura Kurama Mode)
@Randommanontheinternet9641
@Randommanontheinternet9641 2 жыл бұрын
This is good and all but why are you including dms Kakashi he is a six paths level character and plus obito isn’t in the alliance he was only in the alliance because naruto talk no jutsued him obito isn’t gonna give Kakashi his mangekyou
@seankoas
@seankoas 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto’s clones clap while the real one eats ramen
@brandonrader7942
@brandonrader7942 2 жыл бұрын
I personally believe war arc kakashi is stronger than the five kage. The stuff kakashi does in the later half of the war is nuts
@ryice944
@ryice944 2 жыл бұрын
Everything he did to make him kage level were after he got naruto chakra
@romaineeasy
@romaineeasy 2 жыл бұрын
Seth Swag Clyde Chuck Six
@SilentJnation
@SilentJnation 2 жыл бұрын
I'd bring up KCM 2 Minato, but for six paths Naruto, we gotta bring up DMS Kakashi. Edo Hokage Team.
@rlserik3751
@rlserik3751 2 жыл бұрын
Ay doesn’t scale above killer bee but everything else seems solid
@yoboyrob201
@yoboyrob201 2 жыл бұрын
All of this is assuming that 8th gate guy would even be fighting the real naruto. He could do all his shit, then poof, wrong dude. Then he just blew his load for no reason. Cuz the 8th gate doesn’t last long. It seems longer in the anime. But the manga it’s over pretty quickly
@sirnetflix7162
@sirnetflix7162 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Kakashi keep up with KCM Minato at one point? Also, can DMS Kakashi beat Six Paths Naruto?
@40mihirkulkarni44
@40mihirkulkarni44 2 жыл бұрын
He penetrated Kaguya on his first try while Naruto needed boil release to get a hand job done from Kaguya. And there's Kamui hax, so...
@DonRavioli92
@DonRavioli92 2 жыл бұрын
DMS Kakashi is gonna be able to swap hands but has no shot of actually beating Six paths naruto
@lightninghands3071
@lightninghands3071 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonRavioli92 I say naruto wins 7/10 times I can see scenarios where kakashi could win
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto six paths stomps simply one word truth seeker orbs also ashura kurama mode stomps blatantly
@LuhTwizzy__
@LuhTwizzy__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@truckerbob1465 fuck no ☠️🤡
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't DMS Kakashi be a part of the alliance?
@superqbone4622
@superqbone4622 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think KCM Naruto could handle guy gates unlocked/minato/kakashi and the like better than madara? They don’t get the 3x amp but it’s still teamwork vs solo
@hdl3044
@hdl3044 Жыл бұрын
Only issue is Raikage + Ohnoki speed buff. That’s the only real issue
@Whis__
@Whis__ 2 жыл бұрын
Bro his clones were saved over platoons of shinobi
@Musclingus
@Musclingus 2 жыл бұрын
the 5 kage are a non factor. Edo Madara, who is relative to if not a bit stronger than KCM2 Naruto, wiped them out with only 25 clones. This wouldn't put a dent in Naruto's chakra. And that's assuming he even needs 25 of them. 1 clone per Kage would smack them. Just look at how 1 sage mode clone did against 3rd Raikage. The guy who's arguably stronger than any of the kage active during the war. Imagine what a KCM2 clone would do against any of the kage if a sage mode clone beat 3rd Raikage
@Taoishim
@Taoishim 2 жыл бұрын
KCM1 Naruto blitz Raikage only once and never blitz anyone again after that in that form. Even Edo Itachi was able to keep up. KCM1 wouldn't beat The Shinobi Alliance. KCM2 gets stomped by Edo Hokages (if we're including them in). Hashirama himself can solo KCM2. He was amazed at Naruto by saying "Wow, you're Chakra is almost as big as mine" and thats before his sage mode & 1000 arms jutsu hax. If we're not including Edo Hokages, Ohnoki and Kakashi are a big threat especially if Naruto goes into his Bijuu Avatar form. Makes himself a big target to get dusted by Ohnoki or warped by Kamui Kakashi. And then there's 8 Gates Guy. Are we including Sasuke too? Since he's almost relative to KCM2 Naruto and how's he gon avoid amaterasu? It's not like he's gon keep shedding his Chakra to avoid it. Shinobi Alliance will win high diff. Plus, they have the smartest people backing them up. 6 Paths Naruto ofc stomps everyone .
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
for real though, KCM minato was the biggest asspull in the series. I was sitting there watching that episode for the first time and thinking "that should have been kushina, not minato."
@blvckpapii4598
@blvckpapii4598 2 жыл бұрын
Yall forgetting about his shadow clones gai dont have the time to wipe thru thousands of clones
@garka6135
@garka6135 2 жыл бұрын
Now make part 1 sasuke vs kimimaro
@jerod5636
@jerod5636 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that old boy is faded as heeellllllll.
@BabyMamaMaker
@BabyMamaMaker 2 жыл бұрын
If Naruto is near or equal to Hashirama, do you think Hashirama solos the Alliance? Do you think Madara w/Kurama beating the Alliance? And Madara with Kurama, Kurama is 99% of himself. He’s not half.
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, they slap without diff. Honestly I think that if Madara uses Great Attire, war is litteraly over, considering fact that Perfect Susanoo already has large scale attacks, and same goes Kurama. Combining those, we have being with nearly infinite Chakra+ attacks on large scale. Same goes to Hashirama.
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 2 жыл бұрын
for KCM II fight vs shinobi alliance naruto win condition start fight in KCM II sage mode with 2 clones gathering nature energy in the back..... create 100 clones to tear thru all the background characters use kurama avatar to blast multiple biju dama at remaining characters..... only characters than can help vs this is kakashi using kamui but he wont have enough chakra to spam this to keep up with naruto... no other character in the shinobi alliance can tank a biju dama..... ( 4 edo hokage are not included, sasuke not included in shinobi alliance per my definition) if KCM II sage mode naruto runs out of chakra..... which he wont cuz he doesnt have to share it with anybody he has 2 reserves in the back gathering narture energy....... any version of naruto higher than this instantly wins no debate needed
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 2 жыл бұрын
Does guy not body naruto in 8 gates ?
@domeurylantigua4520
@domeurylantigua4520 2 жыл бұрын
not so6p
@clickmaster3692
@clickmaster3692 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as if either one of them can one shot each other with one attack, so it's about who gets hits first.
@Bigmactrapn
@Bigmactrapn 2 жыл бұрын
Madara vs shin
@lilsupaSSR
@lilsupaSSR 2 жыл бұрын
He would slap all of them probably in base it's that bad km1 definitely got it anything above that is overkill
@NewtonMD
@NewtonMD 2 жыл бұрын
U guys didn't go too in depth tho Talk about the sharingan users, Sasuke, kamui, hundred healings, ohnoki ~ raikage combo, etc
@akarilight6331
@akarilight6331 2 жыл бұрын
KCM1 Would lose against the 5 Kage After that KCM 2 would just stomp the entire alliance unless Guy opens the 8th Gate or Kakashi manages to Kamui snipe him.
@animeato7865
@animeato7865 2 жыл бұрын
I know six didnt say gaara ohnoki and bee are weaker than ay BE SLAMMED V1 RAIKAGE IN BASE
@voidzy5303
@voidzy5303 2 жыл бұрын
Seth notice me dad plz
@fivestarmark1793
@fivestarmark1793 2 жыл бұрын
Not Seth’s channel it’s owned by someone else
@Zenith_Nulls
@Zenith_Nulls 2 жыл бұрын
@@fivestarmark1793 no Seth owns this one he's replied to someone in this comment section
@austinmc12
@austinmc12 2 жыл бұрын
Issa stomp
@highofflife3307
@highofflife3307 2 жыл бұрын
For the sake of argument Sasuke does betray Obito and technically join the Shinobi alliance right? Sooo if Sasuke is included then he’s taking a heavy L🤔…and there’s a possibility that Kakashi with his MS plus the help of the Hyuga clan can likely tell Naruto apart from his clone if Kakashi stays back and they set up Naruto right he could get popped by Kamui 🤷🏾‍♂️otherwise I agree Naruto claps
@Popcornkernal29
@Popcornkernal29 2 жыл бұрын
Each of the clones can one shot all the fodder background characters and they have equally distributed chakra but less durable. And naruto beat up sasuke after protecting this very same shinobi alliance for over a day at that point and wasnt even trying to kill sasuke while sasuke was 100% trying to murder naruto. And that was all after he made everyone 3x stronger, in this hypothetical scenario naruto has ALL of the chakra to last longer on.
@highofflife3307
@highofflife3307 2 жыл бұрын
@@Popcornkernal29 That’s true he wouldn’t have to worry about distributing chakra but also take into account that Naruto was also healed to full strength by medics a few times throughout that battle, and you’re forgetting that Sasuke has always been able to tell Naruto apart from his clowns easily so with hypothetical help from the shinobi alliance he’d be more than capable enough to coordinate an attack to defeat Naruto…Sasuke+Kakashi+Guy+ maybe the 5kage alone could coordinate an attack to kill Naruto
@imHim710
@imHim710 2 жыл бұрын
Goku solos them all
@Antpoppa
@Antpoppa 2 жыл бұрын
One pumch man solos goku
@imHim710
@imHim710 2 жыл бұрын
@@Antpoppa never.
@Antpoppa
@Antpoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@imHim710 prove it goku got hurt by a gun in the beginning of super and hit by a rock by krillin and dyspo is barley the speed of light omg
@MWMTEE
@MWMTEE 2 жыл бұрын
Rocks hurt goku, goku dumb asf too
@viroz6562
@viroz6562 2 жыл бұрын
@@Antpoppa Goku probably slaps Saitama but we haven’t seen Saitama’s limits yet.
@HumanB312
@HumanB312 2 жыл бұрын
What about Sasuke would he not fight Naruto in the situation
@statictheory6356
@statictheory6356 2 жыл бұрын
Bro they're deleting your subscribers. I had to resubscribe. I was wondering why your videos weren't popping up in my feed
@ellisongreene3259
@ellisongreene3259 2 жыл бұрын
Kcm1 if mguy doesnt start in eight gates naruto blitz him before he opens the 3rd gate idc
@DieHard1912
@DieHard1912 2 жыл бұрын
naruto kcm1 get beaten, kcm 2 nd up stomps. kcm 1 chakra limit ect. kcm 2 stands better to reason. only person who could beat kcm 2/sixpaths is guy with heavy support.
@MemeGodAzul
@MemeGodAzul 2 жыл бұрын
Night Guy still loses to Six Paths even with all the support.
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
Guy gets stomped by Kcm 2 low diff and then absolutely stomped absurdly in six paths
@DieHard1912
@DieHard1912 2 жыл бұрын
lmao, 8 gates guy by himself would smash kcm2. kakashi needs to hit kamui one time, which is passable considering guy bends space which can stop naruto truth seeker orbs plus movement when guy just moves lmao...
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieHard1912 the thing is eight gates guy couldn't even react to six paths also literally one ashura form ninetails kills them all in a single hit and considering Naruto has info on kamui from all his other fights prior its a blatant stomp eight gates guy gets shit stomped into next week so does dms Kakashi Naruto literally one shotted a madara that tanked all of eight gates guy and healed 8 gates guy guy gets absolutely blitzed krieged
@truckerbob1465
@truckerbob1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieHard1912 secondly its not kcm 2 that has the orbs thats how i know you don't know what your talking about narutos clones could dead ass one shot and kill them all with sealing rasengans lava splash rasengan damage theres so many ways sage of six paths stomps kcm 2 only stomps if kurama swaps places and takes guy out immediately
@immortalthumbz
@immortalthumbz 2 жыл бұрын
Six uses headcanon
@reallystupidgaming5291
@reallystupidgaming5291 2 жыл бұрын
is seth seththeprogrammer
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 2 жыл бұрын
He would be able to kill with SM
@Ancient_Tribesman
@Ancient_Tribesman 2 жыл бұрын
KCM 2 Naruto wasnt even a threat to Edo Madara, but 7 Gates Guy could hit Sixpaths Madara 🤔. I think 7 gates would be enough to hurt or k.o Naruto.
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
No he didnt whwt the fuck are you talking abt
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
When did 7 gates guy touch six paths madara? All i remember was madara being trivial and casually react to all his attacks with ease, what are you on about
@timwilson207
@timwilson207 2 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700Guy hit him with Hirudora.
@Ancient_Tribesman
@Ancient_Tribesman 2 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700 7 gates Guy literally hit Sixpaths Madara with Hirudora & moved Madara back.
@larryfoster8820
@larryfoster8820 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto was the Shinobi alliance
@funny719glass2
@funny719glass2 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with naruto beating the shinobi alliance but ohnoki is the strongest kage of that era
@omexheartless21
@omexheartless21 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@archielewis7514
@archielewis7514 2 жыл бұрын
And some people say that the ten tails jinchūriki can beat baryon naruto 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and 8th gate guy hits harder than him
@gameboi_dan1125
@gameboi_dan1125 2 жыл бұрын
The KZbin league
@anonakkor9503
@anonakkor9503 2 жыл бұрын
nice!
@RBALLER
@RBALLER 2 жыл бұрын
Six W
@jaywan_ii-6540
@jaywan_ii-6540 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mr.zendar885
@mr.zendar885 2 жыл бұрын
Upload deity Seth
@RestInGucci
@RestInGucci 2 жыл бұрын
Goku
@HumanB312
@HumanB312 2 жыл бұрын
The 4 dead at the start could beat him. His father is fast and 1st is near 6 path level. 8 gate could probably one shot using his last attack. Naruto regeneration isn’t that great can’t grow limbs
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT 2 жыл бұрын
True which is weird since he regrows a lung
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 2 жыл бұрын
Not at his full power. Juubito and then Madara stomped on the 4 dead and Naruto could keep up with a far more powerful version of Madara
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have no good analytical skills or understanding regarding these things, except the 3rd commenters
@HumanB312
@HumanB312 2 жыл бұрын
@@OK-yy6qz I said at the start
@dantemitsoyu977
@dantemitsoyu977 2 жыл бұрын
If they include the kage and 8 gates guy I think Kcm2 naruto loses
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 2 жыл бұрын
The kage weren’t there and were fighting madara also eight gates guy can’t see through shadow clones so he would try destroying each shadow clone one by one and try using something like the transformation jutsu and turn into a tree branch on the ground also night guy can’t be used in a crowded area with all the shinobi there
@skittles664
@skittles664 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 he said "if you include them".
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@skittles664 yes and I included them what are the others gonna do tell me please
@skittles664
@skittles664 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 I was just responding to "the kage weren't there" but I guess I'll go, Gai isn't killing kcm2 clones one by one,he is killing them by the dozens,they are fragile,and the more Naruto makes the easier they are to break,I'm pretty sure gai(one of the top jonin) can see through one of the most basic ninjutsu that is being used by someone who isnt that skilled in it.Ohnoki could surprise attack,and maybe Gaara as well, that's about it.
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444
@ibreathairunfortunatelyish4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@skittles664 number one nothing said he can see through jutsu especially since he doesn’t know how to use a chakra explain that a jonin not knowing basic chakra control also with sage mode clones naruto could sense him before they try some shit because of his precognition
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