NASCAR Inconsistencies

[@bendtfender2894]

This is all why the NASCAR rule book isn't public, unlike Indycar and all FIA sanctioned races.

[@SigTheSauceMan]

I think rule #1 is "If it would be a violation, but it's more exciting if we don't ding them, then just ignore it."

[@supermccnasty4176]

Lol FIA is not a good example to follow when it comes to making and enforcing rules in Motorsport. Do we need to bring up the ending to the 2021 F1 season in Abu Dhabi or the other countless fuck ups the FIA have had?

[@bendtfender2894]

@@supermccnasty4176 your right, nothing's perfect. But remember that was just one guy who panicked and the FIA has fired him. Overall the FIA still is more consistent than nascar.

[@DaytonaPrototypes]

The Regan Smith thing still pisses me off to this day. I've never been so mad watching sports. Such bullshit!

[@kadens]

I know I'm so pissed at that

[@InsuredFrames]

So many of these "inconsistencies" are rule changes, Dillon's is a rule change, Jimmie's is a rule change as well

[@ds6329]

Careful, NASCAR might fine you about talking bad about them. XD

[@slimshady5757]

D S They’ll black flag him for rough criticism.

[@trentonmackey440]

Deduct 25 championship points too, lol

[@austinsteed1581]

God I hate how the announcers almost always side with Nascar.

[@ashenwolf98]

Has it possibly occurred to you that maybe they have to say it that way because that's their job? Moreover, most of the time they're just stating what the rules are so as to explain it to the viewers who might not know why something is happening the way it is.

[@WCWThunderRosa]

Think about who pays them and who they work for. Of course they’re going to side with NASCAR especially since Denny Hamlin got fined just for saying the car of tomorrow needed improvements

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

Buttercup III in their brains they agree with Denny probably or said driver.

[@joshlee1336]

Their job isn’t to be opinionated, their job is to cover the race.

[@dracowen1332]

Until dale JR didn’t agree at talladega this October

[@NascarNixon]

Playing with fire, bro. I had to delete my Inconsistencies videos after being threatened by a group who claimed to work with NASCAR. They said my channel would be indefinitely suspended if the videos weren't deleted. Those videos still exist online on other people accounts, but I'd be careful if I were you.

[@Leuel48Fan]

Oh wow... that's.... interesting.

[@DaytonaPrototypes]

Wow, bunch of corrupt bastards.

[@chochoobaca55]

Did they provide proof they work with NASCAR? If not, their threats are worthless

[@NascarNixon]

They didn't. But at the time, the last thing I wanted was my channel shut down so I just deleted the videos. I already had one strike by NASCAR at that point.

[@chochoobaca55]

Azerrz Good meme That’s Ryan Holman you’re thinking of

[@KuutenV3]

For the Dillion and Reddick one wasn't there one a few years ago where Almirola I think it was barely got into the wall but had no reverse. But instead of helping him back they forced him behind the wall? Its a shame there are so many inconsistencies with such simple things.

[@SparksFly4]

KuutenV3 no. I believe your thinking of the 2016 Eldora race. Where Kyle Larson and that one dirt racer had no reverse and he blew a tire and couldn't turn it around and they made him DNF.

[@zcarr87]

Also the rule changed. If you can drive away from a wreck this year then u have to get out the reddick was last yr

[@carcrasher88YT]

Exactly, and also with that rule, if for any reason, a wrecker is needed to free your car when it's stuck with another one, your day is done regardless (see Harvick and Kurt Busch at New Hampshire in the first round of the playoffs as another example), whereas the Reddick incident was before the rule was implemented (along with the rest of NASCAR's new crash protocols this season), so you're all right, there really is no inconsistency, rather it shows the difference of before and after the new rules were put into place.

[@Trainlover1995]

It's Dillon, not Dillion.

[@kkfan97]

SparksFly4 - That was Bobby Pierce that had it happen to him at Eldora (that was when Kenny Wallace was yelling at the track workers live on tv to push Pierce's truck back). Almirola did have that happen to him at Dover as well. He got stuck against the inside wall and had no reverse gear, but instead of pushing him back, they made him get out of the car.

[@jacobevenson8702]

+RPM Report The Jimmie Johnson situation at the end was legal. The team must complete the pit stop in the box, but if their is an issue during the stop after the driver tries to pull out, they can fix that issue out of the box, they just have to still be in at least a box and not on the actual pit road. They talked about that after the race.

[@Steventhe2nd]

it shouldn't matter, it's STILL doing service outside his pit box, therefore he should've been held a lap

[@brianwertman5848]

Rule Book said ONLY thing can be done in the box is Tires. You can start fueling if the car is IN or OUT of the box because they don't want you to connect and disconnect because it's a SAFETY issue NOT a advantage issue. And that the same for the Lug Nuts. It's a SAFETY issues not a advantage issue. Jimmie Johnson was 1 of the 8 cars this season that the driver had to finish tightening lug nuts in the 2017. He was the 3rd of the 8 that happened this season and all 8 didn't got penalized.

[@Steventhe2nd]

it shouldn't matter dude, it was outside his pitbox!

[@brianwertman5848]

Steventhe2nd like or not your opinion will not change the rule. NASCAR will not change the rules because fans like it or not. They will only change it if more then majority of the teams complain about something. NASCAR DO listen to the teams. Because last year before the season we complain about splitters are not universal because a RCR splitter will not fit on a Hendricks car. Then most teams asked NASCAR in the summer to make it universal and by November they made it a rule in 2017 that all splitters bolts pattern on the splitter and on the nose of the car need to be the same.

[@Steventhe2nd]

yeah, tell that to majority of dale jr fans, they'll be GLAD to disagree!

[@kura00skyline48]

2:16 um ok..? The call to the finish line was "Dale Earnhardt Jr 4 straight wins at Talladega!"

[@motorsportinsider9457]

The apron one wasn’t called because it was Dale Jr. I think everyone knows that. Also them not letting Austin Dillon get back in is absolute bullcrap.

[@Railer61]

That was back in the early 00's where it was all Dale Jr like how it sorta is with Danica now. Just an advertising name is all it is but the driver ain't crap or top notch really. At least Dale Jr can win races

[@jamesbraun9842]

cooldude20 They interviewed Dale Jr after that race and he didn't know why they took Regan's win away.

[@MrZachItalia]

He still had half of his car on track. He didn’t go all 4 wheels off like Smith did

[@rcracer8872]

Brent W that's a load of crap and u know it

[@Tazoutlaw8]

because kenseths came down on him and forced him below

[@alexthesniper1952]

nobody should make a pass below the yellow line on a super-speedway period. If the leader is blocking go high or stick the nose in there and dump him

[@nativemartian]

AlexTheSniper19 The 2009 Aaron's 499 finish and the 2009 Coke Zero 400 finish were both ended in crashes that stem from the 2008 Amp Energy 500 finish

[@alexthesniper1952]

Native Martian just dump the leader tony did the right thing in the 09 pepsi 400

[@allabouthewaves4354]

Brad did the same as well. I never understood how Dale Jr never got penalized at Dega but we continue to see drivers give spots back when they only put 2 TIRES under the yellow line like Junior did.

[@allabouthewaves4354]

They give the spots back like Nascar is about to give them a penalty instantly.

[@nativemartian]

justin dinkins Dale Jr never gave the spot back though immediately nor attempted to

[@DDS029]

The larger the track, the more you have to depend on other people stationed around the track. I used to work for ARCA. At Atlanta one year, Darrell Waltrip's last race actually, both races were postponed until Monday due to rain. Because of race traffic, regular Monday traffic, and a minor problem, two Cup officials were late. They asked me to spot for turn two and the beginning of the backstretch. So here's what really happens when something goes wrong for someone. I see it, I key my mic, and say, "Watch Car XX, scraped wall out of 2. Track Clear." Then RC decides if any immediate action is needed. If when the car gets to turn 3, and has started leaking something, that gets reported. There is no time to go back through a notebook of past similar situations, and read what was done then. If it happens often enough, it's remembered. If not, it has to be decided right there, right then, right now. At Talladega, you can't see the whole track well enough from the control tower. Now you have to go by what your spotters say and how they say it. TV cameras only cover so much. Each person sees the seriousness of a problem different. So it's not always the RD making the call independently. Now this doesn't address every issue in the video, but these are how problems have to be dealt with. And some examples, there was too much time between comparisons. Rules may have changed, personnel may have changed. Too many variables.

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

DDS029 < is the definition of a liar.

[@FrosteeWusky]

I am a hardcore Dale Jr fan, but I'm man enough to admit that there could've been some favoritism at play when he won 4 in a row at Dega. Of course me, I hate the double yellow line rule, and I especially hate it when someone gets pushed below the line and still gets penalized, but if they didn't penalize Jr, they shouldn't have done that to Regan Smith.

[@joshuazeidner5169]

Blasta 231 the difference i see in those two clips is jr got back up as soon as he could. Smith was on the apron for most of the trip oval.

[@FrosteeWusky]

+Joshua Zeidner true, very true, then again Stewart was holding Regan down, Kenseth immediately moved away from Jr as he was getting passed by him.

[@joshuazeidner5169]

Blasta 231 oh I agree. I was pissed when they took that win away from Smith. I'm just saying that might be why it was called.

[@FrosteeWusky]

+Joshua Zeidner probably. Oh well, at least Regan got to win at Darlington in 2011, besting Carl Edwards, you can't take that one away from him.

[@jasonryals7230]

I'm not a huge Nascar fan so don't crucify me but I thought it had to be all 4 wheels over the line? The other guy only had 2. If thats the case then Dale did nothing wrong.

[@matthews9041]

For the Talledega race Dale still had tires above the yellow line where the other incident all 4 tires were completely below the line

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

Matthew S btw u realized that smith got FORCED

[@horsecrazyviking7121]

First of all after incident number one NASCAR changed that rule so that if you're trying to avoid a wreck you can speed on pit road so long as you slow back down as soon as is safe. Second the incident with Jr I believe that was before the yellow line rule as there was no double yellow line back then. And everyone knows it's up to either NASCAR or the flagman as when to throw the caution (which is why it's so inconsistent.) And the incident with Johnson at the end is covered by the rule book which says no cars may be serviced outside the pit box except to tighten lug nuts. This rule was added so that cars that did not have tight lug nuts weren't losing wheels on the track, because previously cars that left the pit box would have to drive around the track and could potentially lose a wheel which was a safety concern. However for that incident with Austin, well, there is no explanation there. That was just dumb.

[@capriguy7333]

Just watched a "OFFICIAL" stop a uncontrolled tire in todays vegas race. LOL

[@BuschWhackerReviews]

If the inconsistency is fixing an issue like that first one then who really cares? They made a stupid mistake with Kahne and did it right the second time?

[@joekaput747]

BuschWhacker Reviews except the "fix" came a couple years prior to the kahne incident.

[@HHh-ej4rl]

@@joekaput747 According to the video, the fix with Cameron Hayley happened 2 years later

[@utlaw5830]

The regan smith/dale jr incident is; Jr was inches from a car being forced down there; Regan forced the issue and was a few feet away

[@O5fan]

Gotta remember, it is a different group of people making the calls for each of the 3 national series.

[@Redslayer86]

I like how they say Kyle saved it, when anyone with eyes can see the nose bottoming out is what straightened the car out lol.

[@trainsontape6531]

To be fair Kyle's car had damage annets did not nascar probably threw the caution for Kyle because if debris and stuff

[@NSmyth1031]

They said at the end of the race that Kyle had inhaled fumes so I'm sure he knocked out some crush panels when he got into the wall

[@carcrasher88YT]

Yeah, isn't that how the rule goes? If you spin, don't hit anything, and are able to continue before the other cars come back around without any potential obstruction of the track, they don't throw a caution. It's happened on short tracks, superspeedways, and road courses as well. Busch's incident resulted in damage, and the likelihood of debris (in fact, wasn't some debris seen coming off after that, or one of the times he hit the wall later on? Like some of that heat shielding or something? Because I recall seeing something fly from his car and shatter into dust on the track at one point afterwards.), not really an inconsistency there, either.

[@boobsball]

If that spin in the xfinity race was compared to Kurt Busch spin the next day. Then it would be a different story.

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

I have fallen and i can't reach my keg Spelling is your middle name.

[@ethanklein492]

Would have been nice for Haley tonight, but the inconsistency of going under the double yellow line.

[@Stinear35]

Dale didn't put all 4 wheels under the line, Regan did.

[@sludge8506]

“I think it’s legal on the last lap.” That’s just about the dumbest thing anyone in the booth has ever said. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@SPARTAN085B]

Dale Earnhardt Jr's last race at Texas was this past weekend, yesterday actually, and when he had to go to the garage, I'm surprised NASCAR didn't just throw a caution, and leave the caution out until Dale came back out. Just seems like something they'd do.

[@sideslick1024]

Coming from a Kasey-fan, I can understand the first one. When Kasey accelerated to get away from the 7, no caution came out, and the 7 didn't hit anything. When all of those trucks crashed, there was a caution that was thrown as a result, and many trucks made contact in one way or another. Do I like it? Hell no. Do I see some manner of sense? Yes.

[@vlogenericsrants948]

To me, it looked like only part of Jr's car was below the yellow line, while the other one the car was totally below the yellow line. I reckon something, like they have in V8 Supercars to monitor kerb hops, should be in the NASCAR cars, so if any part of that goes below the line, penalty.

[@joshuadempsey886]

The reason why there was no caution different track rules and nascar sees if the driver can still drive the car before putting the caution

[@Nitro55555]

For the first clip the caution came out, they were allowed to do that. Since the caution didn't come out , they gave him a penalty

[@JasonV3894]

It looks like alot of these were situations that were not against the rules at the time but they made a conversation and the rules changed accordingly then the second time it happened it was against rules

[@sabbathbassdude8491]

First up, even though I like Jr, but I don't want to start anything, but when he made the pass below the yellow line, NASCAR should've penalized him for that move. Second, NASCAR needs to fire those the track officials and should hire new officials like the IndyCar track officials who are more responsive

[@mike4auburn91]

#NASCAR Nation, Junior didn’t go fully under the yellow line. He still had two tires on the line.

[@allabouthewaves4354]

You really believe its 4 tires because its been plenty of incidents over the past years where drivers only put 2 tires under the yellow line and they give the spot back because Nascar doesn't hesitate to throw out penalties.

[@cocacola150dr]

As long as you are forced down, it's not a penalty. Junior was forced down. Smith was also forced down, which is why it's baffling that he was penalized.

[@-ragingpotato-937]

But Jr went halfway down the line, Smith went completely below the line, i feel like theres a difference.

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

Omar Smith was forced more idiot.

[@mcj88]

Y'know, even more than the gimmicky Chase, the segments, the awful Car of Tomorrow and all that stuff, _this_ is the shit that I think turned me off of NASCAR the most: the governing body's inability (or outright refusal) enforce its own rules consistently.

[@DevonMopiedmont1143]

i was at that race for the kyle busch caution it was called because everyone complained of debris not for clipping the wall.

[@bradmk.842]

It's because the Cup, Xfinity, and truck series have different rule than each other. Similar but different

[@williamdonahue8764]

The whole caution think was crazy

[@travisoliver2288]

Feel like some of these, outside of the yellow line stuff could really go either way.

[@fathergamin4152]

Yeah there is gonna be inconsistency with years difference I would expect them to update rules as necessary

[@HPayne62]

I actually think Dale's pass was legal. He had his nose past before he dipped down.

[@adriafitzy6459]

Clip 1. They learned their lesson. Clip 2. Jr. only had 2 tires below the line Clip 3. The damaged vehicle policy was different then Clip 4. Every. Single. Spin. Is. Different. Clip 5. They never changed the tire. They tightened lugnuts.

[@wimpman94]

Ill never understand why Jr. wasn’t penalized for going below the yellow line.

[@lenninho5113]

on the one with junior going below yellow line remember that there were rule changes after that year junior did it

[@timgreen856]

The first one. 2 different seires. The second one. Dale had half his car over the line. Who ever had their whole car under.

[@brianwertman5848]

Well the Dillion/Reddick of getting out of the vehicle and want to get back in. Dillion was this year and because of the NEW crash Clock rule that if a safety member touch the car or assist the car you are OUT. Reddick was that he can get out of the car and see if he can drive it off before the crash clock rule. Remembered Dale Earnhardt 1997 at Daytona he went to the ambulance and got out and went back in the car and finished the race in a car that flipped over. That was awesome moment in NASCAR history.

[@mcgauleymotorsports8634]

Gotta love when NASCAR only pulls cautions for the big named drivers, and don't care about the rookies coming up. How ridiculous

[@jessicataylor4071]

Wait so they didn't call a caution for a car that completely spun out but they throw one for rowdy tapping the wall and not spinning out? Wtf

[@wildhorsesslimshady8736]

Just so u know the last kyle busch save u have to remember he went through the grass which is debris

[@SR2448_]

What about the July xfinity Daytona race, where THEY WAITED FOR THE FEILD TO CROSS THE OVERTIME LINE BEFORE THEY THROUGH THE CAUTION?

[@TheRealNishil]

Shahzain Rana how's that inconsistent? They did that for multiple races.

[@iiaquatiq]

Because its the leader that has to cross not the whole field.

[@zgamer9805]

For the Jr. one at dega the source video you used had the announcers muted (probably to avoid copyright strike). I have the race recorded on VHS at home mike joy says "Dale Earnhardt Jr. Four straight wins at Talladega!" just an FYI

[@zachcarlson6316]

For the caution inconsistency, you should've shown the spring Martinsville cup race in 2016 when Josh Wise got out the groove and didn't spin or make any contact with anything and Nascar threw the caution.

[@papamax2144]

Earnhardt’s pass was different, he kept two tire over the yellow which in many different racing leagues is illegal. The second clip, the car had all 4 over the yellow, which is usually penalized.

[@chittychad18]

there were other cases that Nascar let them work on the car outside the box

[@theflashingscotsman]

At 5:00, maybe it was because of a chance of debris on the track after the second one, but no chance of it in the first one? Just a thought, I don't claim to know.

[@CloudStrife8894]

Actually, The one where Jr. passed Kenseth under the yellow line was actually a clean pass but kenseth did push Jr. under the line so no penalty was issued.

[@AlonsoRules]

Why did that yellow come out after Johnson had got it straight and was going?

[@sebastianochs7603]

1:40 stuff like that makes you even more upset about last night's finish with Justin Haley. (Xfinity July Race 2018)

[@girlwithaguitar24]

I feel for him - Darrell speak for "NSACAR fucked up".

[@ChiChiWoo]

However, Jimmie Johnson Was In The Box Sideways At Auto Club. The Car Was In The Pit Box. But Then, Johnson Got A Penalty At Kansas For Driving Through Too Many Boxes.

[@andrewmiller5427]

The first one when kahne went through there was no caution which is why he was penalized the 2nd one the caution came out which made it legal if the caution hadn't came out he would have been penalized

[@Josh-jo9kz]

Funny they never throw the caution when Michael Annet spins

[@rafahrichawesomefamous]

48: crashes and makes big one 18: to easy

[@daylencrews19]

For the last Johnson one the tire changer didn’t put any lug nuts on out side the pit box

[@makedragon]

Johnson actually has the possibility of 2 penalties: tools outside the box and and service outside the box. this is why we have seen teams gettin penalized for having their gasman halfway out of the box. but its Johnson, he is protected by rules changes during the race.

[@HHh-ej4rl]

0:20 I'm guessing NASCAR realized how stupid that rule was.

[@robg7430]

Idk Jr looked like he only went down there because Kenseth was about to run into him

[@ethantaube2512]

Smith won the race but gave tony the trophy

[@FernandoDaniel7]

I don't watch NASCAR that often but i still love it. But can someone explain to me what's the issue with the first situation? About accelerating away from the spinning trucks/cars, i didn't know that rule?

[@auburnltl7452]

These make the nba officials look confident

[@cdogclary1383]

NASCAR officials are so strict bc they will get flag for going like .90 mph over the pit road limit I've seen it happen

[@48fanfromky]

Actually, they already have a 5 mph threshold, but the drivers and teams use that to their advantage. For example, if the marked pit road speed limit is 50 mph, it is actually 55 mph because of the threshold; however, most teams will try to use the threshold and go 55 mph. If the car is clocked at 55.1 mph, the driver is speeding.

[@billygregory7661]

6:51 I think they called a caution was because he drove in the grass I don’t know

[@misplacedyankee6489]

The example with Kyle Busch getting a yellow and the 5 car not... the 5 car just spun. No fluids or debris. Kyle's kiss on the wall obviously left debris on the track

[@XReal0101]

48 cars pit wasn’t a penalty because the hose broke and no work was done outside the pit box

[@MLGProSwag69]

The Yellow Line: Dale only had 2 tires below, Regan Smith had all 4 2017 Kyle Busch Caution: He could have laid debris, Annett never hit anything, Riggs & 2012 Busch also never laid debris, and they didn't put it out instantly like they did with Johnson at Bristol

[@frederickschulze8014]

6:38 Stupid move by busch, not a "nudge from jimmie johnson." Jimmie was there and busch tried to come into his lane.

[@JosephDeStefano924]

OK, first of the one with kyle and jimmy, he saved it there for NO, that's not a caution!

[@nathanwells9136]

The caution before the Gordon/Keselowski incident was the biggest bullshit call I've seen in NASCAR I think. A car was loose and yellow wtf!!!

[@XReal0101]

With the jr Below the yellow lines you have to have all four tires below the yellow his were not he had two on the racing surface.

[@thurnquist6289]

The rule is if you get out of the car due to crash damage, then your day is over, PERIOD. (Est. 2017)

[@keivncraft1561]

Lots, not all, were fixing issues.

[@maddhattergaming6863]

oh with the yellow line passing juniors had part of his car above the yellow line which is legal but Regan smiths pass is not becasue he had is car fully below the yellow line

[@VeryKingly]

I REALLY dont like how nascar chooses whether they should throw the caution or not. I feel like if a car spins like the 5 at Charlotte, then the caution should be thrown. But if a car saves it and keeps a decent pace like the 48 at Bristol, then the caution shouldnt be thrown. Just like some wrecks at the road courses. If there isnt a car all beat up on the track, then they choose not to throw it for some reason.

[@XReal0101]

You can see the 18 drop debris that’s why it was a caution the 5 of annett hit nothing and put down no debris that’s why it wasn’t a caution.

[@jackmcpeake2137]

First one a caution flew so wasn't inconsistent

[@Dat-Mudkip]

But he still had to speed down pit road to get away from that...

[@boocebungus5839]

Of course nascar called jrs pass a clean one he was the sports most popular

[@HaloSprintRacing]

Johnson had a safety issue

[@joshuazeidner5169]

HaloSprintRacing yeah kahne had a safety issue when he almost got run over coming onto pit road but he was still penalized

[@ashenwolf98]

Kahne's incident was also 3 years before Johnson's.

[@tacticalginger9623]

pass below line wasnt an inconsistency. 1st car still had 2 wheels above the line

[@wyatt1355]

At 3:19 he went below the line but passed him with half his car above it???

[@lloydpryor2762]

Minutes 5:00, he didn't hit anything. The one just after that, the man hit the wall with the back of his car. (May be debris.) That last one, with 48? He didn't get penalized, because he didn't change the tire, he just adjusted the lug nuts.

[@OoogaBoog]

Happens in any sport with human officials....unfortunately.

[@monstertow2449]

about 3 of these rules would fit in if made in 2018

[@whippersnapper6456]

Dale Jr. and Regan Smith were in the same situation. Both drivers had position inside before being forced below the line. Both passes were legal. NASCAR probably penalized Regan because at the time he was a relative nobody. Had it been Harvick or Gordon in that car then the call probably would've been in their favor. That win should've gone to Regan.

[@Steventhe2nd]

7:53 was legit BS, he clearly was doing service outside his pit box, ok, so you penalize Dale Jr. in 2009 Daytona 500 for have a front tire outside his pit box, but they let Johnson get away with it, i see how that goes....

[@christianbarnes8249]

all of those were right.good video

[@markschlegel5867]

yo the last one nascar explained, johnson was allowed to secure the lug nuts outside the pitbox for safety. Did you watch the race?

[@10910roma]

Mark Schlegel In the race that was just the announcers guess. They didn’t say anything until two days later.

[@gagesstuff5946]

Well 48 was a safety issue... I will say im bias because im a 48 fan but the safety of the drivers is #1, he had great timing, a true champ, he lost 5+ seconds and i think thats penalty enogub

[@scottmccann3946]

The kasey kahne thing posses me off

[@runofthemillz]

I mean this could he like 2 hours long 😂

[@might_but_mini8814]

There are different rules in the trucks xfintiy and monster series

[@sethvanast8323]

What pisses me off is how often at talladega or daytona they wreck 300 yards from the finish line and nascar throws a caution before the leaders get back to the line. It's 300 freaking yards you are not gonna get safety workers to the crash spot before the leaders take the checkered flag, the cars aren't going to slow to pace speed in that time, let them freaking race back! they stole a win from Brennan Poole last year doing that. It's such bull crap.

[@jasonryals7230]

I'm not a huge Nascar fan so don't crucify me but I thought it had to be all 4 wheels over the line? The other guy only had 2. If thats the case then Dale did nothing wrong.

[@unimaginablefaliure799]

Darth Raider nope, smith got forced down more.

[@Festivus_Miracle]

That Regan Smith incident still gets me a bit annoyed to this day. Now I'm not glad that fans were hurt, I am glad the 2009 Spring finish happened. It showed NASCAR what happens when you don't want to be black flagged due to bullshit.

[@alexthesniper1952]

Speed Slaughter tony is the winner nobody should make a pass on the apron period. Your salty cause your a tony hater.