Nate Hagens: "Episode 100 - The Great Simplification” | The Great Simplification

[@SeventhCircleID]

...Nate... I gotta say... as an Architect who has been trying to get to grips with all these problems over the past twenty years, who has read every paper, historical and philosophical book he could get his hands on looking for answers, and has gotten very ill trying to carry all these issues (along with the expectation of needing to design solutions)... you are right, these podcasts are an absolute balm... thank you so so much, and for the kind words from Kate, there are indeed people out here trying who nobody knows who they are... but are trying regardless.

[@em945]

Wishing you well with your health! and also hopefully you can keep adding your gained knowledge and skillset into the mix.

[@daytime12]

All the best to you!!!👍

[@georgegrader9038]

Or we have given up. Learned to love the bomb.

[@RogueDemagogue]

Maybe he should try harder to tell the truth, America has over a thousand years of clean natural gas in the ground, over 300 years of coal, uranium mines bigger than some states for nuclear power and oceans of oil under the ground the government refuses to allow the oil companies to drill on. America is very far from running out of power or energy, America exports power and energy and yes, oil.

[@iancormie9916]

As a Petroleum Engineer who modeled a solar heated house for the Pacific North West in 1975, I understand exactly what you mean. Petroleum is a finite resource and Solar and Wind will not become viable alternatives due to the life expectancy of the equipment and the lack of cost effective storage. Next Gen Nuclear is an option for electricity generation and a lot of the marine industry. For the rest, synthetic diesel (and gasoline) can fill in the rest while technology in every field improves. China is looking at a 300 to 500 million drop in population over the next 40? years and the west has been below replacement birth rates for decades. Baring nuclear or germ warfare, things will start to normalize in a multigenerational time frame. China is well in to a financial crisis or potential collapse and how China deals with this over the next few years will give us an indication as to how the world debt situation should be dealt with and how bad things might get. One issue that concerns me greatly is in an electric only world world is the lack of redundancy. If (when) the grid fails, people freeze , starve, or die of thirst. Regards

[@wildriver42]

Congratulations on 100 Episodes. You are doing a great service to the planet.

[@clarkdavis5333]

A great service for sure.

[@brucefrykman8295]

The planet does not care, it does not need servicing. It works just as well with us as without us. It has no motivations; it has no feelings; it has no purpose. You are confusing the real cares of humans, i.e. your cares and my cares as well as the cares of the other 8 billion people inhabiting the planet with the planet itself and some assumed proper destiny for it, the planet we embody with some mythological Gaia spirit . The planet does not feel pain when we disembowel it for what we assign as its riches and its value. The planet has no regard for these things, neither do the untold trillions of the other individual plants and animals. They do not worry about the future. Only humans do this. We are doomed, we are doomed as individuals, we are doomed as a species, and the planet we live on is doomed. Humans will all die and our species will go extinct. This is unavoidable. Of all of the species that have ever lived on the Earth all but an infinitesimally tiny residue of surviving species that have mutated sufficiently to live in the here and now have all gone to dust. In this regard we are no different. We have lost the faith of our fathers and are trying to supplant it with one that is much inferior to theirs. Humans show far greater restraint when fighting for their human masters, when fighting for some assumed purpose they assign to the universe all such restraint is betrayal of their own limited perception of infinity. Do not worry about the future, our leaders will show us the way to our own destruction, and those clever enough to fool us with their BS all will gain what they rightfully have inherited.

[@noelezen]

Thanks for your commitment and engagement in these core issues. I am a 21year old French boy and your podcasts have been unbelievable and the greatest source of education to understand how the world works. Much love and support !

[@noahbrown4388]

If I could recommend anything to my 21 year old self (not that I’d listen ;) is learn all the practical skills that you can. And make and keep as many meaningful relationships as you can. Good luck young man 🙏🏻

[@Seawithinyou]

My daughters future is so precious to me along with all of our future generations Be Strong in the knowing of what lays ahead 😇🕊🌏

[@rodr5099]

Thank you Kate and Nate, ❤ you both. Regarding MMT. If you believe in Fiat and that Fiat can work then MMT with a universal basic income for the poor sounds like utopia. But if you think about it, it's fate is similar to any Fiat currency. It must eventually realize its true value - which has to be zero. No fiat currency has ever succeeded - all eventually fail because humans in government cannot resist the temptation to debase and debauch them. Any currency, if made too abundant, will result in hyperinflation. Even silver lost most of it's value when Christopher Columbus and his thugs invaded South America and found a mountain of 40 % silver-rich ore in Bolivia which they exploited with profideous cruelty to the natives. Spain became awash in silver and its perceived value fell off a precipice. What causes hyperinflation is not the cost of real biophysical stuff going up but currency losing value because it is too abundant. What makes precious metals hold their value is their huge embedded energy content and associated scarcity. It takes about 100 MWh of energy to produce a kilogram of gold. That's enough electricity equivalent to run my families household for about 17 years. No government can print gold and silver the way they can print Fiat into oblivion. You might think of inviting a chap by the name of Steve St. Angelo from the SRS Rocco report onto your podcast to discuss this vital concept of embedded energy as the backbone of enduring wealth preservation. I know this isn't what people want to hear but I believe it's the inconvenient truth. We need to deal with reality head on and stop searching for quick fixes. If we don't reality will deal with us. Thomas Malthus correctly pointed out, in his essay on human population, that hand outs to the poor will never eliminate poverty - this just transfers poverty onto the next poorest rung of the economic ladder. We live on a finite planet. All wealth comes from the Earth. Wealth is a zero sum game.

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Tu connais Arthur Keller?

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

This is one of the best conversation on this Podcast... The idea of pro social prepping is a true gift to handle the darkness that surrounds these topics. In fact this conversation just rolled from one amazing point to another and put together really was a loving embrace and has moved me from the depression that has settled on my soul to acceptance of the future and the reality we face.... The grief part of the emotional response to these topics can be mitigated by acceptance and i have come to understand the Buddha and other wisdom teachings in far greater detail through these topics and these conversations... So i can't thank you enough Nate and Kate ....everytime i listen to Kate i get such a warm loving feeling from her intellect and her warm heart. I hope we choose to bend .... ❤

[@Hathasolar1]

"not selling fear, selling Understanding" BRAVO!!!

[@treefrog3349]

The Great Simplification could easily be seen as one of our "natural resources" that is NOT diminishing. It has been an oasis of deliberative sense-making amidst the intellectual desert we call Capitol Hill. Good-hearted sense-makers like Nate Hagens and his many brilliant guests stand in stark contrast to the spoon-fed message coming from the status quo.

[@9340cody]

Nate, I hope that the HBO thing works out because that would instantly quadruple your audience. Everyone listening here knows how important it is that your message reaches as many eyes and ears as possible.

[@TransitionWhatcom-hg6br]

Big smiles to see this 100th episode, and to see Kate interviewing Nate!

[@Twisted_Cabage]

Kate really did way better than i was expecting at the beginning. Bravo to Nate for having her lead.

[@peterclark2374]

Yes, I think Kate did a wonderful job. Good choice!

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

We need a lot more Nate Hagens in the world,

[@janklaas6885]

yeahh

[@cheri238]

Indeed ❤

[@rondellapenna8766]

Congratulations! I've learned so much from your podcasts. You care deeply about our world and I appreciate what you do.

[@matthewdolan5831]

'People are still dancing but they're getting closer to the doors'.... great quote.

[@karate4348]

Yes literally like the set up of Oct 7 in Israel. Set up to be allowed is likely...and set up to create more suffering. Stop the wrongdoing.

[@abraunw]

Nate, there is such integrity in the way you have offered these podcasts from the heart and free of charge. If you are looking for volunteers to do tasks to help keep this going please let us know how best to express interest.

[@harveytheparaglidingchaser7039]

Why do I enjoy these podcasts so much despite the grim message? Because it's a rare and great thing to see people with different opinions treat each other with respect

[@musicstonesme]

My respect and admiration for you and your work grew while listening to this entire podcast. As a 66 year old white Canadian man, I can relate to your appropriate humility and certainty about some items. The acceptance stage of grief for the ongoing death of nature is one of the things we share. Brilliant work Nate. ❤

[@one4change4thebetter]

I enjoyed you sharing your path to here

[@dncbot]

I came across this podcast, this episode, today, and it was a pleasant discovery. Nate seems to be a man full of thoughtful wisdom, who understands we cannot just run with simplified activist solutions when we want to solve the challenges we are facing. Simplified solutions will end in economic collapse. While that might benefit the climate, it will definitely not benefit the environment. The idea that we need global control of the development is also dangerous. Such attempts always fail. Dictatorious leaders will never be smarter than the intelligence of distributed effort. Instead set up rewards for the proper goals, and let the distributed intelligence work at it. Great podcast all in all. I'm subscribing.

[@marianneomalley2682]

Thank you Nate. ..these episodes have been empowering and engaging. Please keep going - we need this information.

[@barbaragreene392]

Such a great one! Thanks Kate for really opening a space for Nate to drill down into the understanding he’s accumulated during not only his lifetime, but specifically here in the last 100 episodes! Bravo Nate, this was one of my favorite episodes and I’ve enjoyed many!! Thank you!! I can see and hear the personal toll it’s taking from you to do this work, so again thank you! It’s very important that you do it, as long as you can.

[@genekellyisnice]

I loved this conversation, and generally get excited every time you pull back the curtain about the decisions behind making the podcast. It's vulnerable and it respects the audience. I agree that you're better at listening, letting the guest have the floor and asking good questions to draw out even more.

[@draper67]

Mr. Nate, I found your channel from the Canadian Prepper channel, I love both these channels, gotta alot to catch up on your videos, thank you Nate, JD lex ky

[@cfitzstrum]

Where does one get a screaming goat?! Congrats on 100! Hands down the most important and informative podcast out there. Keep up the great work Nate!

[@cal48koho]

Ebay! Its a children's toy and book.

[@RodBarkerdigitalmediablog]

The messages are strong and clear as well as thought provoking. Thank you Nate and guests (Kate included) for sharing your wisdom and heartfelt intentions for guiding us towards a different paradigm. A paradigm with broader and deeper considerations for the natural world and our role within it.

[@namzarf]

Why am I feeling the urge to buy a globe? Seriously, thanks for being there. I can't recall now how I stumbled upon this channel, but glad I did.

[@UnderOneSky]

Nate and Kate flip the script. What an incredible way to celebrate 100! As a fellow podcaster couldn't relate more with the complexity of convos and creating space for innovative ideas to shine and connect the brightest responses to our polycrisis. CONGRATS - we are rooting for you.

[@BrieHoblin]

This is the first episode that I've watched--and it is so uplifting. This is stuff I have thought about my whole life, and it is so soothing to see someone talk about it in an intelligent and meaningful way. You mentioned how seeing others in person who are also working on bits and pieces of the metacrisis was helpful, and I think for me watching your podcast on youtube does the same thing. As a Vermonter I can relate so much to having a connection to animals, that then gets replaced with status seeking and wealth accumulation...that leads you right back to a humbler and more rural life. Maybe there's more of us than I realized. Thank you.

[@vu4y3fo846y]

Great work Nate! We're so grateful to be able to learn from these conversations.

[@carolesea]

Nate, you and Kate are great together! I’ve been watching your podcast for the last year and sharing it with my friends and family. You help us to think seriously about inevitable changes that are coming because of humans having overshot our planetary resources. I appreciate that I get to think along with you and your guests about how I as an individual can deal with these changes, and how societies can help or hinder the process. I agree with Sir David King that we need you to keep doing your podcast even up to 1000!!!

[@smartartification]

I agree with Nate and appreciate his honesty and about the harsh reality. I think honesty not worry, about how what we say will disturb or influence people's interpretation (which we can only guess at based on our own limited view of reality). If we are to be empowered we need to be able to deal with and continually discuss the truths of our situation.

[@treefrog3349]

"The "gold-plated super-organism", you quipped. I have come to recognize you as a benignly-intentioned, wise human being but I never realized that you were a poet too! Well said!

[@justcollapse5343]

Smaug.

[@ziggyfrnds]

1:40:49 "who am i to tell people what to do?" Humility is the mark of a learned man.....we need more humility! I see everyone putting on a mask of confidence....even arrogance when online, becase thats what gets you noticed. But not Nate! I hope Nate gets the recognition he deserves for doing this amazing stuff!!

[@adambohm4367]

The 4 horsemen. The challenges on one screen. Everyone with a special skill set can easily “slice off a chunk” and focus on their part. You have done an incredible function of organizing all this chaos. Thank you sir!

[@rgsteinman4842]

The Kate & Nate show! This was great - a really important interview because it clarified many aspects of the Great Simplification and provided a deeper window into your Heart. Kate asked really challenging, Mega questions - deep, difficult, and prescient.And I am so glad Kate asked you the signature end-of-interview questions. My 'Magic Wand' answer has always been to change the Hearts of Human to Fall in Love with the Earth and thus to choose to live in Harmony with All Life on Earth. I was heartened to hear your answer ~ the same, but in different words. "Heaven know how we will get there; we know we will." Thank you, for everything. 🌎♥

[@knightonlibrary1183]

The resource that this podcast provides to the world is invaluable. Great to see 100 reached, here's to the next 1000!

[@rolfvanharen]

Congratz Nate... Thank you so much for all the insights and wisdom you brought to the biosphere. Deeply respecting the work you do.. 🙏

[@davehendricks4824]

Congrats Nate. Hopefully I’ll still be around for podcast 500!

[@zoecohen9071]

Thank you @kate Raworth, especially for asking Nate about civil disobedience xxx

[@toddthedrysocket]

Thank you for your efforts - one doesn't know what lies down the road, but your informed and unselfish efforts are inspiring - there is a proverb, "There is such a thing as destiny, but continue with your own plans - and if they are in accordance with destiny you may reap a rich reward."

[@Corrie-fd9ww]

I also like “fortune favors the prepared mind” (I think Pasteur said that lol)

[@DominicCorbeil]

Bravo Nate for this 100 ! The work you're doing is really important. It may not be viewed by millions of people like it should be but it makes many people to talk about these issues in their life. This is so important to understand what is going on with the predicament. I am following you from Quebec and I will continue at least until the 1000 th episode 😁.

[@KimberleyHare-r8r]

Absolutely outstanding - thank you so much Kate and Nate.

[@MetabolismofCities]

Congrats on the 100th episode! Thank you for bringing on interesting guests. Kate is a natural! She needs her own podcast in 2024!

[@tylerreeves8026]

Hey Nate, just finished the last exam of my college career 2 hours ago and I'm 1 hour into this wonderful post exam gift from you and Kate. I just want to let you know out of the last 9 years I've spent in college undergrad (spent 5 years with no idea what I wanted to do), none of that education will come close to the things you have taught me over the past year and how profoundly that education from you has fundamentally shifted my view of the world and the systems around us. Nor do I believe any ounce of that college education will stick with me for rest of my life like the things I have learned on this podcast will. Thank you, and keep changing the hearts and minds! The young people ARE listeners too! P.S. I'd love to see a guest who has done research on computing what equitable material consumption budgets are for an individual over their entire life for various resources we have a good understanding of on. I.E. How many kg of aluminum am I allowed to consumer over my life? I know its complicated, you'd need to model population growth, projected recycling rates, future cost of energy and how that affects what portion of the global reserve is economically viable for extraction over time (or recycling), as well as define for how many generations are we considering in our time frame... and many more things I'm sure I know nothing about and cant imagine... I understand it probably cant be done with any accuracy, but I'd just really love to see what some of those numbers would be for different materials. Why? I'm now officially an engineer (computer engineer) after today, and as I enter the workforce and am tasked with designing products that will convert natural resources into what will eventually be landfill waste... I'd really like to know just how unfair and inequitable my designs will be for future generations. I.E. making copper in PCB's hard to remove from a product or even incapable of being detected via standard recycling equipment due to the design and where it is located in the component, etc. Having metrics, even ones with massive error margins, is a starting point. This podcast deals so much with macro overshoot... but what does micro overshoot look like? I'm sure Kate's work crosses into this quite a bit too.

[@fireflyfarmletontheeno777]

I cannot say how much I appreciate your work. Knowing there are others that view the world in a similar approach as myself helps on days when things feel bleak! You like to soar high- I view things like I am using a microscope. Zooming in and zooming back out for macro and micro viewpoints! Hope to see many more episodes 🌲

[@OhioValleyWandering]

I'll be among the many to congratulate you on getting to 100. I came across the podcast about halfway in, episode 50 or so, and was initially gobsmacked that there were people attempting to discuss all of this on a holistic level. Thank you for giving us an opportunity to hear the eloquence of so many minds, even if we don't agree on every aspect. It's been enriching overall. May you keep reaching people, and at the very least, get them thinking.

[@fredhoppe2286]

I never comment, but am grateful. I think one of your best episodes I’ve seen. ( still many to see) I’ve wanted to know more about who you are, and felt this was achieved. You lead with humility and respect, and are self aware. Be sure to take the time for yourself to just be. It’s a large burden of commitment you’ve put on yourself. Know you are doing great work and the heavy lifting in creating awareness and education. Thank you for sharing. Enjoy the journey. Don’t stop. …if you need to get away, I’ve got a great cabin on remote island you can enjoy surrounded by large fir/ cedar trees and beach on the BC coast.

[@wizardoftas7779]

Oh wow, Kate of Doughnut Economics. I was walking past a small book stall last week that offers donated books to raise funds for our local scout group in small town Southern Tasmania, and acquired a copy of your book. Love this podcast interview between two great people.

[@TennesseeJed]

Nate, you are going to have to tell more people, you can make them understand! You are a great teacher

[@karenkoerner6015]

If each of us shares these podcasts with our own social media contacts, that would go a long way in helping Nate share his message.

[@TennesseeJed]

@@karenkoerner6015 I do/did, but I have dropped all of them.

[@peterclark2374]

I enjoyed the comments interspersed throughout about the challenges of having a podcast about the meta crisis. And Nate's comments about some of his choices about letting his guests talk. I particularly learned from the discussion contrasting the podcasts and the franklies.

[@burtonsschool9532]

I've been here in South Korea reflecting a lot on your conversations from your farm and abroad. Congrats on your steps here and there.

[@barrycarter8276]

Congratulations Nate on your 100th “The Great Simplification” podcast. liked your choice of Kate Raworth as the questioner, putting you in the hot seat. Seeing this was a 2 hour conversation did wonder how you’d hold up, as over those 100 podcasts you’ve covered a lot of subjects, but wasn’t disappointed, and you didn’t embarrass yourself by falling into the trap of hypocrisy. Having looked down through the comments got the feeling you and like minded others have built a wonderful “The Great Simplification” playground, of philosophical, ecology and biosphere swings, roundabouts, helter-skelter, but as soon as it’s left unattended it’s trashed and set on fire without any explanation, other than wanton destruction, and therein lies the problem of communication🤔

[@Anthropoid333]

I have watched almost all of these 100 episodes. This is by far one of my favorite channels. Thank you Nate! ❤

[@Deep_Sorcery]

Every time you have Kate Raworth on the program it makes me want to eat donuts. But other than that, another great show. Good idea being the interviewee for your 100th episode.

[@imackenz]

I've listened to a lot of your episodes, Nate. #100 helps to get to know YOU better and is great context for learning more from you in future episodes. I appreciate you. Keep going.

[@davidbarry6900]

SO MANY good ideas and important concepts mentioned and discussed in this episode! Thank you!

[@tristan7216]

Kate's question "we can't all go rural" - yeah. It's great if you can live out in the country and grow your own food (until you reach that age when you start needing serious health care, then you're gonna wish you lived 15 minutes or less away from several high quality stroke care and oncology facilities 🥰). But the great simplification is likely to be much uglier for most people. Not just less vacation travel and annual gadget "upgrades" (so what), but less general mobility, foregoing better jobs because you can't get there from here, awful communal living arragements with one room SRO dwellings and shared bathrooms and kitchens, or worse, multigenerational family living, expensive energy making every part of your life smaller and darker. I'm really hoping non carbon energy tech can help us out of this mess, because I understand what simplification actually means, for most people in the West (developing countries have less far to fall, and many of those folks might see improvement in standard of living, compared to the hell they live in now, unless development collapses with spiraling energy costs).

[@Seawithinyou]

I have never learnt so much since watching nearly all 100 Hundred of your wonderful podcasts And still look back at some again Empowering us all to be prepared and to enjoy the simple things in our Natural world Aotearoa is with you all the way Congratulations dear Nate and all who contribute 🐝🕊🌳🐠🌊🌏💖

[@klausfaller19]

Thank you, Nate. Great idea to let Kate conduct the interview, she is a pearl with beautiful souls. Her loving, positive attitude was steering the interview towards bend. In contrast, your attitude showed signs of despair at times. You were mentioning loving certain things and not being able to do them, because of time. That statement didn't resonate with me. When Kate asked you :what you cared about most, your answer was kind of shocking to me. There must be a number of man who have been divorced for a lesser answer. I've asked myself is this the Nate I signed up with a year ago. My heart wants to be with my dogs, but my mind is in charge here, would have been the more honest answer, Nate The monster we fight lives of consumption, beware not to be consumed by it. It hijacks your attention and ignores your heart. Your mental health depends on a soft and loving heart. There are 44,1k of souls here, and they care about your happiness, mental health state very much. Soften your heart and the answer is,,,,,,,,of course it's my wife, my dogs, my cycling and then my work I care about most. Stay sane. The body keeps the scores.

[@lovman]

Excellent. Kate Raworth was a great choice for guest hosting this 100th episode. Keep up the great work.

[@drayramirez9984]

Been with you since the very early days. Your thoughtful exploration of the most important and complex questions has reshaped my pov and future plans. Thanks for you and your team for this important work ❤

[@vlouise8503]

Thanks Nate and Kate. When you were talking about rural living and solutions for those who can't live on acreage, I thought you'd mention David Holmgren. He has a lot of answers in "Retrosuburbia". We can be greening cities and suburban landscapes to huge effect. Even apartment dwellers with porches can improve their local ecology. Imagine a world where every lawn, small or vast, is converted to a functioning habitat for food, insects, birds, bats, frogs, ducks, etc.David Holmgren is an extraordinary man who walks the walk. Thanks again! Dogs rule.

[@Rachael-b2h]

Thankyou for sharing and caring from New Zealand

[@vexy1987]

So grateful for your work Nate. Rarely a dull moment in the many hundreds of hours of content you and the team curate. So much wisdom here 👏 As for focus, how about resilience rather than efficiency?

[@oscarrobert4725]

Kate is Amazing. Never heard anyone like her. Love her

[@Sentimental_Mood]

Keep up the great work, Nate. We appreciate all you do. :)

[@ErnestoEduardoDobarganes]

One of my favorite podcast

[@logantauson789]

Sir, your podcast and your perspective, your words, and your truths are bringing us all to a level that we can actually stand a chance at adapting in a better way, defending ourselves against those who do not have our best interest in mind or life in general. if that’s not the world changing and I don’t know what it is. Thank you for everything you do. It brings a . Immeasurable value.

[@stephennovak82]

Please keep your podcast going, you help us so so much, thank you, don't stop, please

[@JaydedWun]

Your work has been instrumental in grounding my approach to my life goals and values, learning about the land, becoming sustainable and educating people etc. Thanks for the work you do.

[@bgiv2010]

I think you're spot on! I have Four Horseman of my own that basically matches yours: Consumerism (overshoot), Colonialism (multi-polarity), Commercialism (distribution), and Corporatism (organization). Together they bring the Human Commodification Project.

[@merthsoft]

As a software engineer, I relate strongly to the feeling of using the devil's tools. Appreciate this video and your work.

[@noahbrown4388]

Thank you Nate. You’ve helped me to feel less alone in this knowledge :)

[@JeffNelson-b9f]

Thank you both! Critically important information, and great inspiration. You are having necessary, positive influence on the world. Brilliant.

[@mrdeanvincent]

This was excellent. Thank you Nate for doing this episode, for being vulnerable and for sharing with us a little insight into your mind. Kudos also to Kate for being a great interviewer. These conversations are so important. I've learned so much from this channel and I believe more and more people from more walks of life are beginning to acknowledge the importance and urgency. Keep up the great work.

[@KanalFrump]

Congrats on the 100th episode, and thank you for what you do. Thank you for being authentic and facilitating these great conversations.

[@marcimilliway2019]

This is a wonderful interiew. I was so glad you took this format of turning the tables. You do a great job in calming my fears while remaining realistic. Thank youf ro this wonderful gift!

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

Congrats on reaching 100 episodes ! You're a voice of sanity in the rising darkness ❤

[@paulscholes54]

Wow - I needed that, especially the last 20 mins, thanks so much Kate & Nate. I'm off now to do some bending AND breaking.

[@frankwhite1816]

Excellent! Thank you Nate and Kate! :-) And congratulations on 100 episodes! That being said, and of course this is just my opinion, the new civilizational system required to address 'The Metacrisis' will not involve economics as we currently understand it - currencies, financial instruments, etc. Indeed, there may not be time for a transitional phase at all but your analyses are very helpful and enjoyable. We may need to think in multiple systemic dimensions in order to propose a new civilizational system that can solve for this. I certainly hope we can bend the current system (difficult scale-back) and not break it (catastrophic collapse) though the likelihood of that outcome diminishes as the accelerationists, who control most of the corporations and thus most of the governments, are only increasing the delta. In any case, thank you so much for all that you do! It's healing therapy! MUCH LOVE!!

[@dustinhamman8456]

Been around since the Oil Drum days. Keep up the great work! Also, shout out to Kansas making the episode!

[@olivergilpin]

Thank you for your work Nate ❤

[@OldEarthWisdom]

I own only 13 pounds of stuff. I use only 1 gallon of water a day. I walk everywhere I go. I eat a whole food plant-based diet. The city I live in is powered by renewable energy and the water is cleaned before it is returned to the ocean. My life is beyond wonderful. I am 68 years old. I left the US to live my good life. Can I do more?

[@philmillieret1899]

Felicitations! Champagne! et Merci Monsieur Nate Hagens!

[@ouimetco]

All your guests and you could and ought be doing podcasts continuously until people get it. Your work is of the utmost importance. Reach more people please.

[@mariaamparoolivergarza8933]

Congratulations but, above all, thank you!

[@mkkrupp2462]

Fantastic 100th episode. CONGRATULATIONS NATE! ( - Regular watcher from Tasmania, Australia.)

[@thenjulzsaid]

So grateful for you and what you do 🙏🏼

[@rcm929]

So fun! (You know you’re a deep nerd when you consider a podcast discussing the existential crises we face as “fun.”) Great way to honor the 100th podcast. I do indeed hope that one day we’ll be celebrating the 1000th! On a more serious note, I really appreciate the continued, deep, authentic humbleness of Nate. I think this quality is essential in a quest such as this in order to minimize the potential for path-altering bias. This podcast is my “church.” It helps ground me and make me feel connected to what matters most. It helps inspire and instigate me to think and act in ways that might maximize my own potential to be an agent of positive momentum. Thank you to Nate, his behind -the-scenes team, and his guests for the beautiful and essential work you do. Much gratitude and well wishes sent your way 💗💖

[@Aktentasche1]

Just wanna drop some appreciation for your work. Keep it up!

[@ValiRossi]

Nate rocks! Long live the Oil Drum!!!!

[@anguswallace3067]

(my first youtube comment) Have listened to many of these, and loved this episode. I laughed with a tear in my eye when the intro music started with Kate introducing. I look forward to more discussion about MMT (though I don't think it's a panacea). Thank you both for your work. I hope you have a refreshing holiday season

[@LarsRichterMedia]

So grateful for what you're doing, Nate! Thank you.

[@bumblebee9337]

We live in a culture where the opposite of simplification is called progress.

[@Mikell-h2c]

When the checks stop clearing and the crude starts to disappear, watch out

[@robertpawley5715]

Simplification is progress

[@davidjohnson-tq4qx]

that is just the word to signal to all primates when there is food in the trough

[@susanporter199]

Collapse Club is a community that supports each other in processing these difficult realities.

[@maggiebalistreri7301]

Your comment led me to google this club which led me eventually to David Baum’s Substack where I read a lovely post about why you have to be a little weird to deal with collapse, then I clicked on the profile of one of the commenters on that post, and read a nice post from them about how collapse club helps them cope! And I was like wait, is this the same person who commented on Nate’s video? And it was! (You) I just thought that was neat. And just reading your post about feeling less alone and not crazy, made me feel less alone and not crazy! So thank you :)

[@justcollapse5343]

David is a genuinely lovely person. You will feel welcomed there we are sure

[@DavidMarcotte-xx1nw]

Amazing concept for the big 100th! Kate is great!

[@lancechapman3070]

The teaching of functional analysis and critical thinking to the young would open up a much greater understanding of our predicament to many people.

[@danielcolman5064]

Congratulations Nate - what you are doing is truly superb and has aided me enormously.

[@jaygoldman1281]

Congrats and thanks, Nate! I've learned a lot. And... while nobody bats .1000, I trust you and appreciate your humanity. Wishing you continued happiness and success.

[@brodie_johnson]

In the deep grief of this moment, your coherence is most welcome.

[@neutralrobot]

I'm about halfway through and enjoying this so far. Nate, have you considered reaching out to David Wengrow? The Dawn of Everything has some stuff to say about deep history and the stories we tell ourselves about what is inevitable for us as a species. I personally think like you, that some form of, let's say "crash" is basically baked in, and it will be a doozy. And for those who want to stay and fight the good fight to try to have less-bad futures, I applaud them and think they should keep doing what they think is best, but I think there should also be space for "deep preppers" or maybe something like what's been called "doomer optimists"--people who look at the world and ask, "If we assume that this crash will occur, what can we set in motion now that will give chances to something less insane in a few hundred years?" I think that the ecovillage movement has something to contribute to this. I think we need to make a different branch of the tech culture that leans more on decentralized self-sufficiency, rather than always pushing down marginal costs through mass centralized production. Megaprojects and centralized production may have their place, but that place shouldn't be our default.

[@cheri238]

David passed away with covid, did he not a few years back? Steve is still alive. Archeologists. They wrote "The Dawn of Everything," together and David was in the wall street advocating for change in Zigatti Park in New York City.

[@neutralrobot]

@@cheri238 So The Dawn of Everything was written by two Davids. There was David Graeber who is the activist you're thinking of, who also wrote some good stuff on "Bullshit Jobs" and wrote another great book, "Debt: The First 5,000 Years". He was an anthropologist and died during the early pandemic, though the relationship to COVID isn't clear. David Wengrow is an archaeologist and is still alive and talking about the book.

[@ashleyquick5712]

Dougald Hine also talks about leaving good ruins, I loved the round table episode with him. Shaun Chamberlin is another good example of living in a community focused doomer-optimist lifestyle. Can't remember if he's been on Nate's podcast or not... his book from David Flemming's work is brilliant & I reread it often.

[@alexanderleuchte5132]

Congratulations! On a sidenote, the contrast between the globe depicting this beautiful blue planet and the pretty inhospitable looking "the sea is lava" model in the backgrounds is eerily symbolic for the issues at hand

[@EeDuncStar]

Nate, Please continue to be a conduit to witness what is. System and all. Your simplicity approach to a complex behemoth of a system is vital to ensure the breadth of it is heard and truly witnessed. We all know the severity of what's coming down the road and how sticky patch solutions may make nice sound bites but the end game it still the end game. And as you sa, bend or break, we are still not able to act as a humanity quickly enough to change the consequences of our hypercivilization's demise.

[@RogueDemagogue]

He fails to tell people that America has over a thousand years of natural gas in the ground and 300 years of coal, oceans of oil the government refuses to allow drilling, uranium fields bigger than some states for nuclear power, lol. Keep thinking he's smart, he's funny to me. He wasted his time and life concentrating on peak oil, there's oceans of oil still in the ground and under the seas.