Chaos in Redlands Stage 4 crit

[@nationsnumber1beast]

Ok so I see a lot of comments on this. For those who don’t know what’s happening the guy on the bmc is one of the most successful riders in the pack. What he is doing is creating a safe place for his team to ride of you notice guys diving under everyone that’s more dangerous than the bumping that’s happening. There is no respect in the peloton anymore therefore we crash a lot more when individual guys come up for no reason there’s an hour left in the race and he is not with his team meaning he shouldn’t be there. That’s pack etiquette.

[@jetBlue_83]

Thanks for breaking it down Corey. Like someone said on my earlier comment, it’s hard to know what’s happening in the race resulting in the choices and actions riders take. What seems dramatic on video might actually be quite chill in reality; I guess it looks different when different riders do it. Thanks again!

[@jacobbarrick6947]

I get your point but respect is a two way street. Aevolo is one of the best teams in the country yet the Disruptors rider acted like they had no business being near the front. I understand fighting for position, but body checking people is completely uncalled for. Why does he have justification to be at the front and the other riders don’t?

[@kidsafe]

@@jacobbarrick6947 Gavin is smooth af, pretty much ignored each shoulder check.

[@jerwel86]

He absolutely needs to be DQ’d

[@cyberx7098]

Creating a “safe space” for his teammates by doing dangerous body checking which is endangering all of the other racers does not seem logical or make sense. It’s one thing to hold your position and lean into a rider who is leaning on you, but to just intentionally body check a rider and completely move them off their line just because you want the wheel they are drafting on, or you feel they don’t deserve to be in that position is not good or ethical racing. It’s dangerous! You don’t see this blatant and dangerous body checking happening in racing in Europe, and those racers are some of the best cycling talent in the world. The UCI would not stand for this, and they would definitely be issuing some DQs. If you want a specific position in a race, you need to earn it by being a better rider than your competition and not by doing dangerous body checking. That’s how you make the racing safer for everyone.

[@jetBlue_83]

Cool footage as always. But that one dude on the red BMC…

[@seanreilly6618]

Yeah he seems like he is 10 steps ahead of the race, when he comes up around 3:44 and starts shaking his head at that kid not really sure if he can see something ahead that we cant see or if he is just genuinely amazed that this kid is going to try to ride near him. Maybe it's like a carnivore thing and he can just tell that the young guy is not a wolf.

[@YisusBike_engineer]

That's actions are ilegal. ​@@seanreilly6618

[@philslama8691]

Lot of unnecessary elbows from that dude.

[@trevorallen9435]

Ride harder and smarter and cry less

[@philslama8691]

@@trevorallen9435 wow, you should be a coach 🤦‍♂️

[@djbattledmv]

Red BMC must be a new white belt in jujitsu

[@austinfreeman7995]

Scrappy white belt for sure lol

[@Karlhung]

Now he’s a mad dawg Aussie

[@MRDTBOSS]

Red BMC dude did not want any smoke with Eamon lol

[@Joshua-rp3tm]

Eamon got that dawg in him

[@wdharrington2002]

Glad to see Johnny Clark doesn’t just race like a dick at local stuff, he does it at national level stuff too😊

[@Mark-ig7jo]

Red BMC guy is a big time DB

[@cyberx7098]

The guy from the Disruptors Team wearing the black kit and riding the red BMC needs to go play hockey instead of racing bikes. He committed so many flagrant and intentional body and elbow checks to other riders during the race which could have caused some serious crashes. People complain about L39ION and the Williams brothers racing aggressively, and they suspend Justin Williams multiple times, but this guy is allowed to continue racing without any punishments or suspensions? WTF!??? Apparently, there are two sets of rules and standards in cycling.

[@shaunb93291]

That’s just normal riding in the pros. Completely legal and necessary

[@Mark-ig7jo]

@@shaunb93291 "Pros" may be a bit strong here

[@philslama8691]

Yeah right. Gord Fraser would've put that dude in a trash can after a race pulling those cheap checks.

[@Anothaday676]

For the longest time, teams have respected the legion train. No one would dare to try to dive in, if they Did you would see Justin push them into the barriers or push them out of the line. You can see teams are not scared to take on the legion train. They will dive or break up the lines. You see it in the pro tour, guy in the Red bmc is doing exactly what Justin would be doing for Cory. But newer riders ain’t afraid to take on the risk. It’s part of racing now, people have to adapt

[@boriente]

Those Ribbles look wild

[@JohnAzzi430]

If somebody could figure out how to stream this in HD live during televised broadcast this sport would explode in popularity.

[@motogp9253]

That would be awesome! They do have this in MotoGP. With a paid subscription you can actually switch to any front or rear camera of the rider of your choice.

[@CorcoranMJ]

At the 715 minute mark the dude on the red BMC dropped his chain.

[@tazanator14]

The EXACT same thing happens to me in crits and shimano says they’ve “never heard of that happening”.. clearly a issue they want to ignore

[@spencersinclair7]

I saw the same issue 5x at a local race with a guy riding 105 Di2, scratched up his crank and cost him positions

[@deanabt]

Regardless of beard-dude, (hey that's racing, not all warm & fuzzy at the pointy end) - wanna point out the video quality was 💯++, thank you!

[@HuGenitals]

Only raced 2 crits in my life. Both ended with fists in the parking area. Mind you these were CAT5 crits with 2/3 riders using them as warmups and they decided to ride like 8====D. The politics inside the peleton can be equated to a 4th grade cafeteria table.

[@Imlazyu_]

Comment section didnt disappoint. Red bmc guy is a no go shouldn't be able to race.

[@Timtimzi]

Didn’t realize we were promoting bumping at high speed in this sport

[@ThePrd3]

Red BMC on disruptors riding dangerous or is that normal rubbing in c1?

[@jhonastanjr]

I think some rubbing here and there might be considered normal, but the Disruptor (84) was technically trying to fight everyone 🦌 Deer style... 😅

[@kidsafe]

Yes to both.

[@shaunb93291]

Very normal

[@shawnomeara6153]

The guy on the red BMC is a dick. If it’s normal, why is he the only one behaving that way? It’s one thing if somebody’s trying to take your wheel, he went out of his way to elbow people that were clearly holding their line.

[@benjaminwolf9801]

Take a shot every time the red BMC rider attacks another rider haha

[@stefanlogan1344]

Buddy has anger issue for real ha-ha... Come to Miami with that he would be on the ground...

[@Karlhung]

Bet Ivan Dominguez will tell you a much different story about that rider

[@sergheitvetcov4095]

The Red BMC guy is like a fish in the tank; he knows what he is doing! He should have a UCI-approved sticker, and BMC Bike should sponsor him with the latest BMC model after this hype in comments!

[@RenoSpeedSkater]

just a little Nascar bump n grind lol

[@motogp9253]

Red BMC guy... If you can't beat'em, bump'em.

[@sbdstudent]

Stuff you don't get to see with the front cam because, let's be honest, Cory is usually near the front. The BMC rider helped his team get 2nd and 3rd on the stage so his path clearing worked.

[@burnsideisback]

Absolute mentalist on the red BMC.

[@westsidewheelmen]

“You have my respect. Whatever that means to you, you got it. But, know this shit hard. If ever there comes a time when it gets down to the marrow, and it's you and me. Kid, I will lay you the fuck out.” -Ross “the Boss” Rhea, St. John’s Shamrocks

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

I love seeing those huge American flags showing the wind direction

[@bxnny6657]

Red BMC dude needs to have some respect, bumping into people for no reason other than to intimidate, luckily not how we race in europe....

[@philslama8691]

Couldn't agree more.

[@jays4057]

Love the video. I wish you could give us some voice over commentary.

[@kidsafe]

That super high risk inside line at 1:35 tho

[@druzzz1852]

That’s what I’m saying lol

[@bprocket]

Do you have to be licensed to race? The red BMC should have his revoked, or is that just rubbin'?

[@artuurdeclercq4634]

Red Bmc making sure everybody is crashing

[@writemacaw]

Amazing, you inspired me to start my channel and now got 300 subscribers in 1 week

[@dustind9242]

was waiting for the 6'2 guy to get tired of the 5'2 mosquito body checking people.

[@katiemc2057]

@Norcal could you do a video on this?

[@slimacanoTV]

5:06 What’s the BMC problem? He’s a real douce for that 😾

[@lMaxPushPush]

red bmc guy is taking this crit thing really serious, throwing more elbows than caleb ewan, so hilarious

[@dougmason3208]

great video, fun to watch!

[@jjwa5410]

I just dont' understand - why didn't Legion/you win GC? What happened?

[@michaelemerson1996]

What's wrong with red bmc guy?

[@Stan0619]

The bearded guy’s aggressive 😂

[@CycoWarriorx]

… and they say Cat 5 is the Wild West… 😅

[@hoogabooga9736]

i'd love to see a real study on the number of crashes. I suspect it's equal or worse in lower categories. I think it's the lower categories putting down the higher categories to feel better about themselves

[@CycoWarriorx]

@@hoogabooga9736 Oh I’m sure it’s worse… but I’m also sure 98% of the Cat 5 crashes aren’t from being intentionally physical… more like riders not comfortable with riding close or knowing how to handle their bikes… the amount of intentional bumping in the video is wild cause you rarely see it or know it’s happening (but it does!)… Cory’s rear camera caught all of that… 😂

[@alexgonzalezMI]

This is a great video to show people who think bike racers are pussies.

[@nickkiburz7062]

Poor showing by clark.... A veteran who should know better. He had no more right to those spots than anyone else, he wasn't in his teams train he was trying to suck your wheel like everyone else in the race.... Rubbins racin, but that's not professional bike racing there. That's entitlement, and what will drive away the future.

[@PhilEnsminger]

Do we only get to see the finish if you win? No friends to loan you their footage?

[@druzzz1852]

Guy with red BMC be riding super dangerous

[@dennisgrob5690]

that course at the bottom is off camber and is always a sketchy ride. there's a lot of mad squabbles out there.

[@Chris-derf5]

Disruptor on red bmc being disruptive ;)

[@Transsend_it]

Makes me never want to race again crit. Damn.

[@johnnyjoseph5922]

That was not a bike race it was more like a MMA fight. All those elbows and bumping. Sheesh!!!

[@ryantreadway4142]

Who won??

[@raanyroad9110]

Red BMC

[@rbahati]

You would think with all the videos you post, your following would by now understand the dynamics of crit racing but that doesn't seem to be the case. I guess on the flip side I'd rather have them post their opinion vs being in the peloton. I've done a few pro races as a retired guy now and I agree, the skill level isn't there which often leads to guys like you saying there is a lack of respect, though I think that is the case, I think the real issue is the skillset isn't as high as it use to be.

[@kmmntrls]

Seems like the bmc dude comes from a different sport

[@joedillier7113]

What happened? Mechanical? Surprised you weren't at the front! 😢

[@dantevilchis3390]

Crash

[@benjaminwolf9801]

So what caused the stop mid race around the 8:15 mark?

[@dantevilchis3390]

Crash

[@andrewcarpenter8274]

If I wasn't old and fat, I'd shut down red BMC down. But someone ought to. He's clearly skilled, but he was out of line multiple times. 6:49 is no less effective.

[@kent__ross]

Whoever that guy on the BMC is looks like he knows what he is doing. Good bike rider!

[@nationsnumber1beast]

Many uci wins under his belt

[@cornishalps9870]

Ribble rider at 9:35 saying "it wasn't my fault" bro wasn't even riding in a straight line... Tbf he was trying to follow his teammate. Reckon a bit of lost respect between those two riders.

[@JamesThomas-xm8ju]

There is more rubbing in this race than NASCAR… 🤣🤣🤣

[@Mistadonthecyclist]

5:06 Disrupter with the red BMC is buggin

[@Karlhung]

That guy has been racing pro longer than most commenting have been wiping their asses. Also won tour of Taiwan overall

[@Mistadonthecyclist]

@@Karlhung still doesn’t change the fact that the body checking is excessive. Especially in a riders hip that’s out the saddle.

[@Karlhung]

@@Mistadonthecyclist corey is defended him for a reason. Mad dawg wasn’t out there head butting people

[@Mistadonthecyclist]

@@Karlhung so because Corey is defending the action, this makes it cool, got it lol. There is nothing wrong with checking or contact in bike races. That is obviously apart of the sport. But based on the footage. TO ME, it looks excessive. Then when everyone crashes because a rider didn’t react to the bump properly then it’s still cool because that bike racing lmao. I’m amateur racer, what do I know anyway. Emon “spell check” on Mikes Bike checked someone to make room but it for sure didn’t look like the way this rider carries on.

[@Karlhung]

@@Mistadonthecyclist nah, but corey understands what’s going on. What I will say is the guy doing that has mad respect from many racers and longtime pros.He’s raced in Ardennes classics, won some things, and has been at longer than some of this kids have been alive in this video.

[@christopherstout2586]

Red BMC guy was not cool

[@jacobbarrick6947]

Dude on the red BMC would get crashed out immediately if he tried that in the world tour. He needs to learn how to ride in a group.

[@Karlhung]

Ummm he raced at the level

[@PEPlourde]

Those are a lot of excuses.

[@asapcasper1367]

Cinema 😂

[@daniluis7777]

None of them there can survive on the European circuit

[@MattMcNamara]

lol, maybe check a few rosters before you make broad statements....and maybe incluede your Euro results ;)

[@daniluis7777]

@@MattMcNamara then tell which ones of those in this race has ever made a European podium??

[@cornishalps9870]

counterpoint - Aevelo, Project Echelon, wins at UCI .2 level races and multiple top 10s.

[@cornishalps9870]

@@daniluis7777 matthew bostock jim brown robin carpenter kyle murphy scott mcgill tyler williams tyler stites brendan rhim All have UCI podiums in Europe

[@cornishalps9870]

oh I must add Carlos Emirio Gutierrez who won 3x stages of the Vuelta a Espana plus: Heiner Rodrigo Parra Jonathan Clarke