Naughty Dog Is Skipping the PS5?

Hey guys!
So we have some news about one of Naughty Dog's upcoming games, and it doesn't seem to be good. Many have been worried that both the new IP and The Last of Us Part 3 might not have enough time to release on PS5, and this new job posting seems to confirm that worry may be real. Let's dive into it!
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[@bobby.palacios]

The PS5 is one of Sony’s best consoles with the absolute worse software line up in Sony’s history.

[@pixel8ted]

Yes!

[@mr.wilder796]

You like the overcluttered, un-custimizable UI?

[@fabiors10]

One? Probably the worst of all time, except maybe excluding handhelds and still I'm not sure.

[@Alecup06]

I still dont have one 😂

[@scissors61]

Ps vita has entered the chat

[@causthicc6227]

Sony didn't believe in factions 2 but believed in Concord.

[@pixel8ted]

Insane!

[@joeydigrado382]

Games are an agenda now, money doesn't matter. Disney lost 200billion dollars and still didn't change. That should tell you everything you need to know.

[@leonardomatheus1888]

Unbelievable.

[@joeydigrado382]

@@causthicc6227 it's an agenda, money isn't even a concern anymore.

[@leonardocampos2270]

Actually, the way i saw it, was naugthy dog who didnt want to put their work in a live action game and didnt want to put their effort in it. And sony eventually agreed to that (wich i think was not easy for naughty dog to pull out)

[@XenoXuri]

also im gonna say it again but the fact no return never got a coop update is criminal, especially after the cancelation of factions last year

[@pixel8ted]

Totally agree. All we wanted was a Factions 2 with the new locations, movement, and weapons. Instead we got nothing!

[@Cain102]

@@pixel8tedwe didn’t even want much. Just the same exact thing from the first game but a bit of extra things. But guess us players don’t matter

[@issai8017]

@@Cain102 that sony executive did us dirty

[@hearditb4]

@@issai8017for leaving the studios?

[@DaDevil1983]

Man was really wanting factions for TLOU2!

[@SaberRexZealot]

I blame Jim Ryan for chasing graphical remakes and live service bullshit, not the dev studios themselves who were clearly bottlenecked by the overindulgent budgets and absurd dev times. The lack of new IPs is upsetting too. AAA games should not be this expensive to make.

[@pixel8ted]

100%

[@SIPEROTH]

Yeah they wastes at least 3 years making last of us online due to Jim Ryan.

[@Chris9699]

I wholeheartedly agree 💯

[@Thai101full]

​@@SIPEROTHThey were working on it before the Jim "flying" Ryan started pushing for live service games, I'm not bothered by the game getting canceled as I am by the fact that they act surprised 4 years into development by realizing that it's going to eat up much of their ressources. How the hell no one on that team saw this eventuality ? Also, they could've released it and supported it for a year or two and leave it be. Not everything needs to be a Fortnite clone.

[@Name-tn3md]

also he sold ps exclusives to PC. I'm PC gamer but I acknowledge that for some fans it feels like betrayal and he understood that pretty much too

[@tyfuego3721]

Ps5 came out in such a weird time that basically cut the life cycle in half

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@AP90x]

Sony seems to be skipping the ps5

[@pixel8ted]

It's so sad!

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Sony dropped their cell phones for the US too. Kind of sucks because they still have sd card slots, 3.5mm headphone jack, quad dac, the list goes on.

[@Dan-Commando]

@@pixel8ted since their metal liquid mess AND Soldered SSD (Firmware) on motherboard ...its finish for me , i bought a PS5 and will NEVER EVER buy a single SONY product anymore. MILLIONS of PS5 standard console start freezing/shutting down (see with repair shop to see it)

[@RadicalGuy2Good]

@@Dan-Commando

[@dylam541]

It’s a bad decade in general for console gaming

[@TheMarine316]

It wasn’t a full seven years, they put last of us 2 on pause when they were working on uncharted 4 so it was more like 5 years but yea it’s still gonna be a long wait, I remember the PS3 glory days when in 7 years they got through 4 games.

[@pixel8ted]

The PS3 era was perfection, lots of innovation, games at a reasonable scale, it's sad to think we might not get a Naughty Dog game until the PS6!

[@TheMarine316]

@@pixel8ted that would suck. I hope we get one of their two before the end of the PS5 era

[@rommelthedesertfox3089]

It was seven years and well most likely get last of us part 3 2027

[@TheMarine316]

@@rommelthedesertfox3089 it wasn’t seven years, if you saw the documentary & just listen to Neil, they put last of us 2 on hold for almost 2 full years when they had to reshape uncharted 4 when Neil & Bruce took over

[@rommelthedesertfox3089]

@@TheMarine316 well if that’s the case we could see last of us part 3 even sooner than 2027

[@atticus999x]

Jim Ryan wasted a ton of time on live service shit. Really set back what could’ve been an awesome generation, but feels too late now.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally agree. The single player games are what drove the PS4 to being the king of that generation, it made absolutely no sense to go in the multiplayer direction.

[@jamesdavid2893]

You know Jim didn't make the decisions right? If you own the company you are in control, if you are given a title in a company you are a employee and every employee has a boss.

[@bigby7712]

@@pixel8tedmultiplayer should also be on the side after you finish the main story you just wanna keep playing your favorite game and do it online

[@Heyyouhello950]

Its yakl fault for Playing live service shii yall had apart in this too

[@atticus999x]

@@jamesdavid2893 my bad, Jim Ryan and friends

[@Idontknowwhattodo600]

Naughty dog have zero reason to skip a generation,if rockstar can release on every generation than so can naughty dog.

[@ruud4688]

Rockstar didn't release every generation, they released GTA 5 on the PS3 and rereleased it on ps4 and now GTA 6 is being released on the PS5

[@MountainBain]

​@@ruud4688 rdr2

[@sahersan2864]

@@ruud4688let’s not forget about red dead redemption 2

[@simonrockstream]

​@@ruud4688bro. RDR2

[@THUGPUTIN]

​​@@ruud4688Rockstar is not just gta bro... 😂 They have something called red dead redemption 2 which is as popular as gta if not for gta online.... They haven't skipped any generations...

[@elbuglione]

"Game as a services" destroy gaming Industry. The last hope are Indi developers...

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@Drstrange3000]

I wish I was more optimistic about indies like everyone else. I used to be a big fan of them as you can see on my channel. They have a lot of the same trend chasing and using too many shortcuts which result in really unpolished work. I still find the space more exciting when they are good. Looking forward to The Plucky Squire and other AA titles.

[@elbuglione]

@@Drstrange3000 there is no "AA" tittles... there are just Indi Developers; making great tittles.. Like Kena: Bridge of Spirits, Ori and the Blind Forest, A Plague Tale: Innocence, Sifu, etc..

[@theteddychannel8529]

@@elbuglionethere are. think Helldivers 2 (semi-big budget backed by Sony, but small team)

[@elbuglione]

@@theteddychannel8529 Helldivers 2 had a bigger budget than Black Myth Wukong... The monkey game is the best "AA" game of all times.

[@TotallyAverageCommenter]

The fact they sit on gold, and just abandon it is kinda crazy.

[@pixel8ted]

Yep!

[@xbotLife]

More like sitting on bronze 😂

[@Michael-it6gb]

What ...gold are they sitting on?

[@Dan-Commando]

its because the COVID

[@yorshka6955]

They should do a new Jak and Dexter Game like the new Ratchet and Clank

[@enigma7355]

Everything I’ve been playing for the most part has been from PS4 or PS3 ports. The lack of new, quality games for PS5 is borderline criminal- but skipping it entirely would be wrong on so many levels.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally agree!

[@joeydigrado382]

I been playing mostly PS3 and PS2 games. Socom2 online, and games I missed in PS3 generation.

[@JADub87]

This generation has been lackluster for PlayStation. People are talking about a PS6 & I do not feel the PS5 has been used it it's maximum level. Once consoles are through I do not see me playing on a PC. I won't be so quick to buy a PS6.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally feel that!

[@anapaulafracasso8159]

Agreed bro. We've mainly just gotten remakes and remasters, and even the new games are releasing for ps4 too, so there's clearly nothing that makes the ps5 games different from ps4, except for the graphics

[@alexleyva90]

This console has been extremely lacking in titles. When I go browsing for something new. Nothing recent has grabbed my attention. That wasn't a remaster.

[@ColdFear6666]

@@alexleyva90 I'm jealous of you. My PS5 has tons of games, I don't have that much time, unfortunately. I have Bloodborne, FF7 + FF Rebirth, Stellar Blade, Gran Turismo 7 and Helldivers 2 installed (completed Until Dawn like a week ago). Waiting for Silent Hill 2 (already pre-ordered). Hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of gametime, and PS Plus has 450+ games... Holy sht...

[@alexleyva90]

​@@ColdFear6666 I hardly have the time, but helldivers has been fun.

[@kevduz]

Correction at 7:00 - It didn’t actually take ND 7 years to develop The Last of Us Part II. While yes, it is true that they began working on Part 2 since 2013 they did so only with a small team which doesn't really count as full production. Part II when into full production between September-October 2017. So the development time took them little more than 3,5 years, if we are speaking more cohesively.

[@nivaneh1010]

Bruh what's wrong with your face

[@Demoman1207]

Damn i remember the ps2 era horror games. 1 banger after another. Silent hill, resident evil, fatal frame, rule of rose, haunting ground, alone in the dark, kuon, siren, the suffering, manhunt. clock tower, the thing, obscure, cold fear. Didnt appreciate how good we had it. Devs were firing on all cylinders back then.

[@pixel8ted]

Yep!

[@RadicalGuy2Good]

We hit the gold mine during that time. Then the PS3 generation started..

[@flyawayq5115]

Also siren. I would kill for PT to ever be made/finished.

[@Demoman1207]

@flyawayq5115 I said siren lol

[@c1rca23]

Not buying this at all. You get 10-12 years out of a PlayStation console generation. No way in hell they’re working on a game for ps6 to be released in 2030-2032 with zero idea of the capabilities of that system hahahahaha. They haven’t even released a true current gen game yet. It’s all remastered stuff from previous gens. It’s say (assuming/guessing) expect 2 naughty dog games within the next 3 years. One could be late 2025. One could be 2027.

[@YeOldeMachina]

No way this gen lasts 10-12 years. Processing power is increasing by 10x every 5 years at this point

[@tylermartinmusic]

@@YeOldeMachinathat’s where the Pro comes into play

[@LuciferHunter-kt7pm]

It should last 10! This shit is expensive and so far this gen is lacking. And we know damn well that whatever the fuck they are working will end up being cross gen. If the PS4 is holding up this long into the next gen then so will the 5.

[@YeOldeMachina]

@@tylermartinmusic the pro specs that leaked are barely an upgrade on the base ps5. The big deal with the pro is Sony's version of frame generation. Thats good and all, but it isn't carrying this gen to 10 years. Sony has said themselves that the ps5 is in the back half of it's lifecycle. The ps4 gen only lasted 7 years and tech wasn't 8ncreasing as fast as it is now.

[@pierreguitard2552]

No way we have a ND game in 2025, even at the end of the year. They start the marketing way before everytime

[@parsazadeh3201]

I can’t believe I bought a PS5 just to play some lacklustre sequel to god of war (IMO) and have Sony waste precious ND time to work on a battle pass game to make them more money 💰 This industry is becoming more and more spineless… How profoundly disappointing….

[@pixel8ted]

So glad the old CEO is gone!

[@niallhughes2697]

"I can’t believe I bought a PS5 just to play some lacklustre sequel to god of war", that's what The Last of Us 2 was.

[@tchoopz1140]

God of war ragnarok was not lack lustre

[@tomgu2285]

That was the last of us 2 lmao.

[@DelsinRaw]

@@niallhughes2697 both games are lackluster, and definitely would add spiderman 2

[@weavatronobservatory]

Sony should let another studio under their umbrella use the Naughty Dog engine. I’ll never not be salty about the cancellation of factions, people kept saying let them cook and while we waited for our meal they took the order off the menu.

[@pixel8ted]

It's so disappointing! They should have added a basic sequal to Factions in the Part 2 Remaster. They knew the cancelation was coming, and it would have made the faithful Factions fans happy!

[@weavatronobservatory]

@@pixel8ted It’s sad that we can’t just get a $70 multiplayer, it just had to be a games as a service. What rubbed me the wrong way was when Naughty Dog acted like they didn’t know they would need to continue to work on the multiplayer after its release.. what a lie. They’ve made plenty of multiplayers for their games and after working on factions for 5-6 years they supposedly realized they would need to update it after its release just sounds incompetent or a lie.

[@Junglesmells]

its still utterly maddening that we will probably never even know what that game was going to be like. Nothing has leaked so far so I'm doubtful anything will. We were robbed of something probably utterly brilliant, and also robbed of the alternative which is the simple original Factions updated for part two. Rubbish ALL round.

[@sebastiankulche]

They actually wanted since the PS2/PS3 days, but they couldnt, because their engine is so ridiculous optimized and sometimes only know by few people in the studio.

[@WerfErtt-wf8sr]

I just want the next game to be good, no matter if it comes a decade later

[@pixel8ted]

Same!

[@wickdaline8668]

We'd be lucky if Uncharted Trilogy for PS5 still happens.

[@pixel8ted]

I'd love true remasters of those!

[@SaberRexZealot]

Why?! All 3 games are all already perfectly playable. Why are you people so insistent on wanting to pay for the same games with better graphics? It’s a complete waste of time when they can invest time and money in something new. So sick of remasters and remakes for things that haven’t even aged that much - it’s insane.

[@Spoopy_man]

​@@SaberRexZealotYeah it's a waste of time especially if they remake them.

[@AP90x]

Do you people not get sick of ports, remakes, and remasters??? Like honestly dude. Lets start asking for new games not remakes/remasters of sh’t we’ve already played.

[@AP90x]

@@SaberRexZealotyea i just commented something similar before seeing your post. Its infuriating that these people keeping begging for more SH’T we already played. We need to stop asking for these remakes/remasters and start championing for actual new games that push these expensive a’s consoles we payed for. Good god! Its like im in the twilight zone or something

[@upon-fe2720]

They arent skipping this generation. Druckmann has said we'll see things soon from the new project. In the context of an advert to developers talking about the "next" game, they are talking about Dev cycles, no release cycles. The next game naughty dog make is 2 game releases down the path. They have 3 games in the oven.

[@Junglesmells]

i wouldn't trust their word at all after all the dodgy communication since 2019

[@tomastapia5241]

Well... Naughty Dog ALWAYS crunched unfarely their workers, allowing them to make masterpieces regularly. It seems now they've restructured and stopped crunching. This seems logical. In other hand, Rockstar hasn't and probably will NEVER stop crunching and abusing their workers, hence, why they still keep putting stuff out. I prefer playing games every 5 or 10 years like ND looks like to be headibg out now but with no human cost for me to play instead of more games but with dozens and dozens of people getting mentally broken.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally agree!

[@tome373402]

Hopefully this teaches Sony a lesson and this bs never happens again. I can’t believe they actually thought this was a good idea. Hiring new teams to make projects like that sure but taking your best devs and forcing them down this route is wildly dumb

[@pixel8ted]

It's wild!

[@tome373402]

@@pixel8ted it’s depressing lol, at least the guy responsible essentially got fired

[@bskncharge]

Don’t forget that part of the reason why tlou2 took 7 years was because Neil had to step in and essentially restart uncharted 4 after Amy Hennigs departure

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope they can do it sooner!

[@da_stash]

departure, lol. there have been plenty of rumors that she was ousted by Druckmann and Straley because they couldn't see eye to eye with Hennig (who, mind you, created the Uncharted series)

[@durodesduvo8424]

A multiplayer mode for Last of Us2 and Spiderman is precisely what those games need IMO

[@pixel8ted]

Yep!

[@gameeverything816]

I don't understand how no crunch has to = longer dev time. They could hire more people. Do a night shift. 3 shifts working around the clock. I know they probably won't do all that but no crunch doesn't need to automatically = longer dev time.

[@Lordmrgrumps]

I don't recall Druckman confirming they were working on TLOU 3? I recall him saying he had a storyline in his head. But that was it.

[@hearditb4]

When they cancelled factions 2. Neil and the naughty dog team came out to basically say it was too much to focus on, both multiplayer and single player TLOU. So they made the choice to cancel Factions 2 to have full focus on TLOU part 3

[@luckyboy5nu]

​@@hearditb4 Not what they said, They cancelled factions 2 to focus on "Singleplayer Experiences", that doesn't mean TLOU, it more likely means a new IP

[@JadenPlayerOne]

Exactly, it's not necessarily confirmed. Everyone is saying it's confirmed though. But time will tell!

[@alexwhite4885]

He made comments that they were working on the story line. Also its the most accoladed game of all time and has a massively popular hbo adaption. Of course they are making a part 3.

[@luckyboy5nu]

@@alexwhite4885 Uncharted is one of the most accoladed games of all time, yet they aren't making an Uncharted 5?

[@gileadbot19]

Sony hasn't made any smart decisions lately. We're STILL waiting for a Bloodborne update almost 10 years later. If a company is willing to ignore one of their most lucrative and loved IP's for absolutely no good reason, they don't deserve any of our money. Good luck with their idiotic live service trash

[@pixel8ted]

They need to win gamers back!

[@gileadbot19]

@@pixel8ted Hell yes they do. It still blows my mind how the corpo overlords at some of our most beloved franchises have let them go down the drain. Bioware Bethesda Squeenix 2K Just to name a few, no doubt I'm forgetting some. They all have serious work to do if they ever have any hope of earning our trust(money) ever again.

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

PS went down the crapper when they moved the HQ out of Japan.

[@gileadbot19]

@@redwaldcuthberting7195 yeah they did. Didn't they move to California? Pretty much explains it all

[@fluffly8935]

Except Bloodborne isn’t lucrative at all compared to pretty much everything else

[@QuarantinedCapricorn]

Everything you said is right concerning The Last of Us as a series, but the new IP has definitely been in the works for a few years and will release in a few more years, towards the end of the PS5 lifecycle. TLOU3 will be a PS6 launch window game.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@melnik20333]

If we cant see the last of us 3 in ps5 generation this IP will die.

[@pixel8ted]

I hope not, maybe just paused!

[@tfresh2838]

True the longer they wait the more people will have lost interest in the series because there will be a blank few years with no Last of Us content. It makes sense to release it on PS5. 3 generations, 3 games.

[@taco1010]

LOL what ur out of ur mind. Everyone gonna buy last of us 3

[@madalindragan9569]

Yeah, this is what you all say, then a teaser release and you all lose your shit. Stop acting interesting, you're not!

[@gunit2678]

No it won't, unfortunately

[@dustinwb84]

I think they're hiding the last of us part 3 because of what happened with part 2 with the leak. They're going to surprise the hell out of everyone!

[@pixel8ted]

That's possible! They could pull a Nintendo and post a trailer revealing it'll release in 3 months.

[@calebgunner]

That's what I'm thinking..... Sony, as of late, have been revealing games near the release date...

[@ryans413]

Two things out of that documentary Neil said no more crunch and that nothing would be showed until they are 100% ready to go with the game. In the past they show trailers and gameplay before they even built the levels to hype people up. That’s fine and all but they show stuff they haven’t even finished yet and set deadlines that they couldn’t meet it out stress on everyone. The documentary shows how tough last of us 2 was on everyone there. They decided to put the fans on the back burner something they didn’t want to do knowing there be backlash but something they had to do to improve the work life of the studio. All we know is they are for sure working on something and I can grantee they will have one game released for the PS5 probably for the PS5 Pro in 2026 or 2027.

[@calebgunner]

@@ryans413 I hope that you're right 🙏🏾... I definitely want to see what they are cooking (whether it's TLOU 3 or a new IP)....

[@Glaive7]

What leak?

[@SpiritHorizon]

What I think is happening is. The new IP will come out in the next 2 years. And this job posting is for another game. And after that last of us 3 at the end of the ps5

[@pixel8ted]

That's possible!

[@fabiolobo728]

A lot of people are still using their PS4 today, so my guess is that this will probably happen with the PS5 as well and Sony will still release those games in the older system. At least I know I won't be running to the store to buy a PS6 knowing what I know today.

[@pixel8ted]

That's a fair point, but they also didn't put the Part 1 Remaster on PS4 which 100% could have been done and was released earlier in the PS5's life cycle.

[@willdavis105]

My guess is the new IP will be on PS5, and this job opening is related to TLOU Part 3, which is probably still in very early stages. I didn’t think we’d get part 3 anytime soon.

[@pixel8ted]

I hope it's reversed, I would love to have the trilogy all on one console!

[@willdavis105]

@@pixel8ted that’s so true that would be crazy. Part 3 may still come out on ps5. We don’t need a ps6 yet

[@julienmelies]

sooo, it wasn't 7 years, they halted production on tlou2 and went full studio on uncharted 4, so maybe 4-5 years. also, a good team with a good pre-production and better working conditions can be more effective and deliver things on a better state on schedule than a crunched one, so there's hope. all that being said. yeah, the reestructure of the studio, neil's involvement with the hbo show, factions and the dlc being canceled, the remake and the remaster, all of that for sure will impact the new projects, so i'm too kinda afraid that IF we get a ND game this generation, it will be very late indeed. if there's any playstation showcase this year and ND don't show up (game awards included), i believe that will be the case, unfortunately.

[@Hoggy27]

Agree with everything you’re saying. Considering the current trends, as well as everything we know about Naughty Dog that you spelled out, it’s difficult to see a new Naughty Dog game this generation. Having said that, you have to consider the tv show as well. Will they push to finish the game before the show? Will Sony pressure them release the game to coincide with the show to maximise profits (thus why a live service Last of Us game was so desirable)? Will working on the game and show stretch Druckman too thin, as the Last of Us seems to be his baby, so to speak? Will be interesting to see where this all goes. I trust Naughty Dog will end up with some amazing stuff, it just may require a lot of patience as fans.

[@pixel8ted]

Considering they are planning 3 seasons for Part 2, I'd imagine Part 3 releases sometime after that!

[@95ermis95]

The fact that a gaming studio is working on one game for 5 to 8 years is ridiculous

[@pixel8ted]

It is getting crazy!

[@stolenchaser]

rockstar: let me introduce myself

[@cartercolson7975]

whos gonna tell him about rockstar???

[@leon-y5w5r]

​​@@stolenchaserrockstar makes sense.Naughty dog makes a 15 hour movie at best. Whereas by 15 hours you havent even scratched the surface for a rockstar game

[@herbg4866]

Welcome to gaming for the last decade! Haven’t the graphics improved from gta 3?!

[@AJJJ-co2vd]

That explains why theirs no good games this generation

[@pixel8ted]

Yep! It's behind the scenes drama with Sony executives.

[@BigSmoke-ew5td]

Jim Lying Ryan

[@thatchurchguyshandle]

here we were feeling good with season two coming....now this.....I pray they do what you've said and release towards the end of the ps5.......but im worried......

[@pixel8ted]

It's not looking good, endure and survive!

[@jacksparrow9227]

@@pixel8ted I wish they could have switched Factions to a single player story since I think they were going to make it like Telltale Walking Dead Final Season with the Boarding School unless Ellie just meets those characters in 3

[@pixel8ted]

@@jacksparrow9227 It's sad that we will probably never see the story they worked on!

[@jacksparrow9227]

@@pixel8ted I meant single player

[@joshuatealeaves]

Took me a min to realize what the music was. Cool putting that in here

[@pixel8ted]

It's a great remix!

[@XenoXuri]

this makes me curious then on when they will be releasing part 2 on the pc as according to rumours the pc port of part 2 has been finished for almost 10 months, maybe they are holding onto it to release it along side season 2 of the show? but im not sure if sony is forcing them to hold it off pc as long as possible to try and get pc gamers who played part 1 to get a ps5

[@pixel8ted]

I 100% believe Part 2 PC will release in the new year alongside season two!

[@jamiewilliams4936]

thet have more remakes and ports than actually brand new last of us games 😭 jrs crazy

[@XenoXuri]

@@jamiewilliams4936 makes sense tho as how far out part 3 is, they gotta make money somehow

[@Infernox-tg6ky]

That's crazy, no new Uncharted, TLOU, nothing new from Naughty dog. The worst part is that we got no new original IP on PS5 ! Sony only focused on live service crap.

[@vusshh]

i blame sony for telling naughty dogs multiplayer wouldn’t be “profitable” and they drop the crap called concord 🤦🤦

[@pixel8ted]

100% agree!

[@Paco3dArt]

I think that working on a project that get canned is demoralizing. Imagine you work for a project for a year or two. And then it gets slided and diced. It must destroy the confidence of the creators.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@Roman-tu3vh]

Don't think that sony themselves allow their top studio to skip this generation entirely. ND probably gonna release that new ip game in the end of ps5 life cycle

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@vanguardanon4979]

One thing about the last of us part 2 though is that it was basically 2 games in one, its length was massive for a single player experience

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@misterhoobomaster]

They are working 2 games so no. One has been in development for 2-3 years and the other one is early. Neil and many "known" names etc never worked on factions and they haven't been doing nothing for 4 years.

[@pixel8ted]

According to Neil, he's been busy working on the Tommy DLC that got canned, and then has been focusing on how to get rid of crunch in Naughty Dog and TLOU HBO show. It's possible they have something up their sleeve, but it's also possible that between that and Factions 2, they don't. Considering that TLOU 2 took 7 years to make WITH crunch, it would seem likely that if the PS5 is done in 2027, then their next project will probably launch on PS6. Even if they're 2 years into development, 2027 is 3 years away. Again, TLOU 2 took 7 years to complete with crunch, so I just don't see how that would make a PS5 release. I hope it does though!

[@misterhoobomaster]

@@pixel8ted The Tommy thing was never in production. He just wrote it before release of Part 2 and instead focused on fxing crunch. Neil has teased the game he's directing for like 3 years on his twitter bio already. Trust me they're making 2 games (just as before but since factions got canned another has now started) In those 7 years they also made TLOU Remastered, Uncharted 4 and Uncharted The Lost Legacy. They didn't work fully on Part 2 until after Uncharted 4 (aside from writing and the teaser trailer for Part 2)

[@FoolishDuke]

Is that actually true about ND using the remasters to train new employees? I thought both remasters were handled by a completely different company?

[@jonnycoop1978]

It would prolly be woke crap anyways. Hopefully by the next generation we have stopped acting like pathetic box ticking pandaing snowflakes and the devs can actually make a good game

[@Laxton_Himself]

A comment I’ve not been seeing is the clues around the alignment of the TV show. If Part 2 occurs over 2 seasons and the first of these is early next year with the following in 2026 or 2027; that would possibly indicate that part 3 could drop around then to give the show time to write part 3?

[@pixel8ted]

Part 2 has been said by Neil will be done over the course of 3 seasons! I do think it will somehow align with Part 3 release though.

[@ThatGuyNorm]

Naughty Dog under Druckman leadership isn't the studio it was. This is a fact.

[@da_stash]

"what? you don't enjoy playing misery 🌽 over fun games like Uncharted? like why are you so simple-minded that you want to have fun in your video games?" - Druckmann probably

[@AS.Se7en]

Exactly

[@DHynes5]

Despite enjoying both Uncharted and TLOU, I miss the Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter days of Naughty Dog!

[@andrewnielsen2516]

there might've been 7 years between last of us games, but that doesn't mean it took them that long to make part 2. uncharted 4 came out in 2016. they did a whole other game before starting on last of us 2.

[@skscotch]

They should make tlou3 using same engine as part 2 as part 2 looked and played fantastic. Surely that would save them time?

[@pixel8ted]

My guess is it'll be using Part 1 remasters engine!

[@DiegoJose-gx8bs]

The time it takes to develop games these days concerns me, especially when thinking about the PS6. We might have to wait until the console is 4 or 5 years old before we start seeing games truly designed for it. I believe Naughty Dog will manage to release at least one game for the PS5, but I doubt they’ll produce more than that. .

[@pixel8ted]

I think the 4-5 year wait for true exclusives is very disappointing!

[@4_Slayer]

I thought it was just in my head ... thinking there is fuck all new PS5 games coming out nowadays ...

[@pixel8ted]

Nope, just many cancelled projects!

[@joshuadickey1776]

Unfortunate that they'd chose not to give people what they want. Yeah story is good but not much else to it.

[@tfresh2838]

I think they definitely have a story down and I think production began a while ago than what they are letting on, and Naughty Dog are smart, there is no way they will skip an entire generation of consoles without a game nevermind a Last of Us. I would say they want to release the Last of Us 3 by the end of the PS5 life cycle as its been a standard procedure for the past 2 releases. But I just hope the game turns out well. But there's no way they would skip it. And the money they can make by having another HBO season from it aswel. Great video ❤

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@mygerms9568]

I think this could the senior producer position could potentially (or rather, hopefully) be for the new IP that has been mooted as coming out. Fingers crossed TLOU3 is still progressing.

[@pixel8ted]

That's possible!

[@sloapmonkey123]

Naughty dog should dedicate a small team to small games so the releases aren't so infrequent. Jak 4 anybody?

[@france4me117]

It's like given a drug that you become dependent on and all in a sudden its been withdrawn! Whit the Naughty Dog's Uncharted series I got so super hooked that I played all of them like countless time as I love them to bits ... Same goes for Last of Us 1 and 2 + Remastered ... I only play single player games and most are Naughty Dog. I say this to Naughty Dog and Sony, respect those that love this chain of games and give us an Uncharted 5 and a Last of Us 3 please.

[@Vortexnicholas]

I keep my expectation low when it comes to naughty dogs now

[@yokotubene]

I simply expect trash from Naughty Dog since Drunkmann is the one in charge now.

[@javierlandaverde4108]

They needed a long break after dropping multiple masterpieces in there genre. They said it best, they will want to work on a new franchise and I heard it was gearing into sci-fi genre.

[@cd1772]

Ellie will probably become Elliot, it’s true, and Tommy will become pregnant by Dina

[@Vortexnicholas]

@@cd1772 I’ll pass on it . I’ll rather wait for god of war Egypt or the next ratchet and clank game

[@reapzzer]

The fact we got this generation launched in 2020 made both the consoles gigantically nerfed right at the start. Also lets not forget the fact that if Sony didnt decide to do cross gen releases the PS5 itself would've had a much better lineup of games just because they decided to uncheck the PS4 box when launching the games. I was the only one among my friends to actually play GoW Ragnarok on the PS5, all of them just played it on the PS4.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

I prefer Insomniac games over Naughty Dog

[@pixel8ted]

Insomniac is great!

[@frandumont]

Why choose just one?

[@tetrastreamxvii]

@@frandumont cause one of them makes good games.

[@TheHalloweenSpirit]

​@@tetrastreamxvii are you saying the studio behind classics like Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted and The Last Of Us don't make good games? ... WTF

[@Junglesmells]

@@tetrastreamxvii and its not the one for teenagers

[@banksb9217]

To be fair I really loved factions and uncharted 4’s multiplayer, the team based matches were awesome. They should’ve remade those with the ps5 ports

[@pixel8ted]

Totally agree!

[@grandmasterchris9666]

It’s almost like Last of Us 2 wasn’t the success Sony was hoping for

[@EF-fc4du]

Their live service dream has been a nightmare.

[@pixel8ted]

Yep!

[@Azeral7]

New company name: Lazy Dog

[@sillagana]

one thing i want to say that kind of contradicts the dev time needed. tlou2 took ND 5-6 years to make and many experienced devs left the company after uc4. and their treatment of employees was so weird at the time, that even a former lead animation dev said proper game animation devs (not movie animation ppl which they apparently hired) would have shipped the game at least a year earlier. so saying that without crunch it would take ND 10 years instead of 7 years to make a game is kind of not true when the people working on it arent properly qualified

[@Etheral101]

I hate anyone that pushes single player devs to make multiplayer games. Multiplayer and live service has ruined gaming

[@JadenPlayerOne]

What's interesting is for TLOU 2, they hired seasonal producers so this doesn't hold much merit, especially considering they're supposedly working on two seperate projects.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@1o1roman1o1]

Made TLOU 14 times; that includes TLOU 2 cus aint shit was added to that game, damn near same gameplay, same creatures, same weapons. Lame as hell, 7 year gap with no advancements. And didn’t even come with factions smfh

[@mewmere6069]

bro the game is literally about the story and the world... which uh both vastly changed

[@blad...]

For the vastly worse ​@@mewmere6069

[@Slick_Nick11]

Just because a game has online multiplayer doesn't mean it has to have seasons and a stupid battle pass that goes on forever. That's such BS that game devs think that's how it gas to be. IT DOESN'T. Make an online mode add some maps and z couple of new things to it every so often and your good.

[@pixel8ted]

Yep, the original factions was just online, and it still has a strong community 10 years later!

[@capri4682]

Ps5 is basically a ps4 pro max

[@horrormovie100]

Ps4 is basically a ps3 pro max

[@SireDragonChester]

If you Look into TLOU part 2. Naught dog hints a IP, in ruined dev studio in TLOUS 2, there drawing and screen shots of Fantasy dragons type game. It’s been rumoured this is IP naughty dog is actually working on. Naughty dog isn’t ignoring ps5. That’s kinda bs. Consider they did both remaster of TLOU 1 & Part 2 got native ps5 version. We’ve seen naughty dog do this before. When TLOU 1 was only on ps3. Ps4 and then it got version. At the time they honed there knowledge of ps4 to get ever bit of performance and quality out of ps4 hardware. Then they did same thing for ps5 and native version for it. Not everybody agreed we needed it but I understand why they did it. So again to say they ignored ps5 is bullshit and not the truth. Chances are they are working on new IP and TLOU part 3.

[@ObiAdeGaming]

Chasing live service is as destructive as chasing wokeness... Enjoy gamers.

[@mewmere6069]

ew

[@Drewgantka_97]

The state of Naughty Dog is worrying but I think they’ve realigned themselves after the Factions 2 debacle. They now know exactly where they want to focus their efforts rather than wasting it on something they weren’t entirely sure of. In the Grounded 2 documentary they also mentioned to not only eliminate crunch, but to scale back the size of their games considering how large Part 2 was. I’m confident we’ll see something from them this generation but it’ll probably only be one game. If they hadn’t wasted their time on Factions 2 we probably could’ve seen a Part 2 DLC but sadly that seems to have been scrapped. At the very least I’m still excited to see what they have been working on. It’s Naughty Dog, they’ll deliver.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@mustymartian8684]

There is no issue with Naughty Dog. Stop trying to create one, smh.

[@Junglesmells]

well there's been no new game for 5 years now, a cancelled multiplayer and no new games on the horizon. I think its fair to say there's a bit of an issue

[@goatlps]

What were they going to make? They destroyed the TLoU franchise with part 2, and ended Uncharted. Another Crash Bandicoot game? LOL. They need a better engine anyway - open world with land, sea, and air vehicles. Then we'll see how good they actually are at coding gameplay - I'm dubious.

[@godnamedtay]

2027 at the VERY earliest…I hate everything

[@pixel8ted]

It's sad news!

[@delayeddeloy7761]

We‘re not getting tlou 3 2027 lol

[@GodWarsX]

I've been saying since before Tlou Online was formally canceled that naughty dog wasn't dropping this gen, and I've been ridiculed every time

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope they're able!

[@GodWarsX]

@@pixel8ted i just don't see it. With a new workplace cultural shift that prevents crunch and overworking, coupled with the development hell they seem to be in getting a new ip off the ground, it just looks to be too tall a task to bring it all together and get a game out the door before the generation wraps up. All the wasted man hours and resources that went into the canceled project doesn't help matters either. We shall see. Id love to be wrong

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

2028 is the end of the PS5

[@pixel8ted]

That would be better than 2027!

[@davemangamer7365]

Hey bud, can I have some of that what whatever it is your smoking You sound like the kind of guy that checks Phil Spencer for polyps since up in there

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@davemangamer7365 i do not smoke

[@davemangamer7365]

@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 you’re just frigging delusional then😂😂

[@samuraibeastwarrior2886]

@@davemangamer7365 you sir are a troll

[@filmcapacitor]

Maybe it's just hope speaking, but I think they will surprise us with a trailer for TLOU3 sooner than expected and I can't imagine them not wanting to release it at the tail end of this generation. They probably have been working on the bones of this game for a while now, would be weird if they didn't.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@malachifreedman3975]

I’m kind of new to console gaming, and have a ps4. Does this mean that The Last of Us III or whatever new IP Naughty Dog is developing would not go to the ps4? Am I just out of luck owning an old console?

[@pixel8ted]

There is 0 chance it'll be on PS4!

[@malachifreedman3975]

@@pixel8ted Yikes. Hopefully by the time the game releases the ps5 will be more affordable. It’d really suck to not be able to play a Part III after the first two were my two favorite games of all time.

[@sailbot1]

You have to consider that between the first TLoU and the 2nd, there was a brand new uncharted as well as remasters of the older ones. It wasn't simply focus on just TLoU

[@necrophoniac]

Dude the idea of speculating Part 3 coming in 2027 blows my mind considering that's the time span Part 2 was from the original. I swear I remember playing part 2 at launch like it was yesterday.

[@pixel8ted]

Totally!

[@MayfieldTv]

I'm glad they didnt make a online game unless they make online open world game that you can travel the game and not have to go into room to travel

[@kevdmiller]

I would actually *encourage* them to shoot for the PS6. (though I hope they also release a PS5 version) As much as I would like to play sooner, I really think they should take their time...especially with the crunch concerns...let the wait be worth it without overworking their people.

[@pixel8ted]

I do agree with this!

[@workoutfanatic7873]

Tlou3 with Ellie at 25, Abby at 28. Wishlist

[@pixel8ted]

It'll happen at some point!

[@laithinator3000]

Naughty Dog is Sony’s premier developer, there’a a 0% their game will miss PS5 - however I see it as incredibly likely it’ll be announced and released towards the end of the PS5 cycle, á la Last Of Us 2013. One year later it has a remastered PS6 edition. Then a nice fat wait until their next game.

[@pixel8ted]

That's what I'm predicting as well!

[@themblan]

They're not skipping the PS5. It goes against all logic and precedent. They will have at least one game on PS5. They will try to use any and all assets they created from Factions 2 for Last of Us 3. Also this generation will be longer than any previous generation. It will be longer than 7 years.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope!

[@MountainBain]

I just want them to make a little Jak game. They could put out a project that might not take as much time as one of these bigger games

[@pixel8ted]

It would be cool!

[@The_bluebean]

we know something is happening September 26th (the last of us day) and while it will most likely be a trailer for season 2 of the show, maybe there's a slim chance we get a message like "the last of us continues" or a teaser image from naughty dog.

[@pixel8ted]

Let's hope! I feel like they have to announce that something is happening!

[@Gabriel-Tár]

the last of us day is about merch, not announcement. it's been like that forever

[@HURRIC4NEyt]

I wanna play tlou2 soooooon! My ps4 is kinda outdated now so Im just waiting for tlou2 to drop on steam or something because I dont wanna buy a whole ps5 just for the game, I played the first one back in the day on my ps3 and again last year on my ps4 but I wanna play tlou2 on pc, any updates on that?

[@pixel8ted]

It'll probably come in the new year when season two drops!

[@Steve-Cap]

It didn't leave PS5 in a dire state. It left Sony in a dire state. This will be the last Sony console I ever own. If Sony is smart, they should go 3rd party from here on out.

[@zaselimgamingvideos]

Ps5 only have 4 year left so I think its a good option to work on the ip for the ps6 launch title release if they are not already at least a year into their ip and have to start from the beginning.

[@pixel8ted]

I assume that new IP will be on PS6!

[@Dimktris]

Do we have any information about the release date of the last of us 3?

[@pete6705]

I would think HBO is pushing Naughty Dog to get this done. It’s putting their final season on hold for a long time

[@pixel8ted]

I do think that'll help the process!

[@ServusDeiSmith]

Bungie couldn't convince Sony that Concord would be DOA but they believed them when it came to Factions 2?

[@pixel8ted]

Makes no sense!

[@AnEnglishGentleman]

Gotta milk that remaster cash cow. The PS5 is brilliant at its main role; as a PS4 player.

[@federicoarmando8359]

I think we're getting a teaser for TLOU3 next year, and an actual release second half of 2027.

[@pixel8ted]

That would be awesome!