The Unbelievable Beats That Jay-Z REJECTED

[@edwardkendrick-s3640]

You can't force the vibe if you ain't feeling it keep it pushing. I think those beats made it to their rightful home 🙌

[@TredecimMusic]

Agreed!

[@periseanbaltimore2037]

Facts!!!

[@SuperArt7]

Exactly....Artist will hear different things in they head when they get a beat.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

Facts

[@JeromeProductions]

Yup

[@BassyGreay]

So glad Luda got The Potion beat. Highly underrated as a rapper and perfect blend of comedy and bars.

[@freshtv5222]

One of most underrated rappers of all time. I’ve never really heard a wack feature from him.

[@msphere760]

You put it perfectly. I think the that's why he's never mentioned amongst the greats - because of his comedic approach.

[@Mack_Worlds_Media]

@@freshtv5222Facts bro Luda always spitting 🔥

[@diashawncoles2435]

Facts luda was always king of the south

[@lorenzohunter6658]

Well out of all artist the most appreciated should be Joe Budden that's like his only song he's known for not trying to be funny plus that's one of those songs you'll hear decades later at events movies etc that's an all age song that brings people together to have a good time!

[@NickxYates]

Love the combo of hip hop history transitioning into beat breakdowns. Great job navie

[@thedfferencetab1977]

i agree

[@brandonclark8395]

Yep

[@luckyhands64]

You can literally do this for every legend. They get presented beats constantly. Impossible not to pass up on some bangers

[@jsmacks11]

Jay Z has a particular sound he seems to look for in beats. He carefully picks his beats to match his lyrics/flow. There are tons of great beats I can see Jay Z turning down. That said plenty of rappers/artists get caught up in the moment and will turn down plenty of tracks and I'm sure years later they will be thinking to themselves "why did i sleep on this". I know a few friends I make beats for will call me up like 10 years later ready to do a song, and now I'm thinking the track lost its edge lol.

[@genius179]

Yeah I think "The Potion" beat is super tough, however to your point I do not think that beat fits Jay well. That's just my opinion.

[@satiyasogiba5040]

Yeah he don't just use an obvious sound.. He always wants a different kind

[@aclayton231]

Spot on and you can tell when Jay was with Timbaland and dirt off my shoulder came on, Jay stood up with authority and head bopped to it instantly, also like Busta rhyme did at Timbaland home studio. Most rappers know what's gonna get them highly motivated to produce a great product. 💯

[@Truthbtold2no]

Here's a fun fact. That Kool & The Gang sample, "Soul Vibrations" that Jay-Z passed on and Joe Budden made a hit with, was already used. First, by LL Cool J with "Cheesy Rat Blues", and second on "What's The Scenario (remix)" by A Tribe Called Quest with Leaders of the New School and Kid Hood.

[@clarencew5535]

Scenario remix was a instant classic and IMO better than Pump it Up.

[@kelvindavis7806]

Word! I was at College Homecoming party on Saturday and that remix came on! Everybody lost it!! Certified banger!@@clarencew5535

[@JeanLucHouedanou]

And also on soul clap by styles p

[@TheModeRed]

Which would explain why Jay Z might pass on it at first.

[@lalofiveseven810]

".......and he goes by the name of uhhhhhh.... " What a climatic intro! Then the whole squad shouts his name...to start the 1st verse. They call it a remix. That's scenario Pt. 2 "That's The ScenarioooOOOo!" Ioncare what anybody says. He mentions (Busta) the former title in spoken word in the intro...but closes that last verse w/a long drawn mic dropper better than any "um, yeeeaah..." by any KardaziaaahhN sister, then horns finalize tf outta what I'm saying. BlÆh! BlÆh! (X2) (Don't take the comment to serious as I do this for my own entertainment, mostly. Ty for creating that avenue.)

[@FreshShotMedia]

I'm glad he passed up on em. Gave us some of the greatest hip-hop records. Jay knew what he was doing.

[@NavieD]

Fair!

[@kalosbeats]

Hindsight bias

[@fentanyljones6956]

@@kalosbeatscame to say the same in so many words.

[@crickcrackcricketycrack5501]

Exactly, jus cos they good beats don't mean they're a right fit for him.

[@EmanonKing]

@@crickcrackcricketycrack5501pump it up was definitely a good fit as he murdered it later

[@KxngSchillo]

This content is so out of the box, I'm surprised I didn't know I was subscribed, awesome!!!! real value here 💯

[@1stGenStunter]

The "Gimme dat beat fool..." line was on the Ice Cube song Jackin For Beats and was on the EP Kill At Will in 1990. Guarantee Jay was a fan back then. There's your history lesson for the day

[@MetaMan09]

🔥🔥🔥

[@bungle3912]

He’s insane passing on We Gon’ Make It. That is a beast.

[@UdaamWright]

I’m trying to picture it in my head, but I’m just not hearing him on it… 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mcgritty8842]

Tf difference does it make? Not our career and dude made an insane amount of money off rapping alone. Jay made no mistakes passing on these beats

[@bungle3912]

@@mcgritty8842 Yeah, he did, as his later albums had a lot of garbage on them. I Know Wjat Girls Like? No thanks.

[@sicarresupreme]

​@@bungle3912I love lil Kim's verse on that song but you right that song is trash

[@tshepomalaka9679]

Could it be that it sounds or gives a similar feeling to Guess Who’s Back feat Kanye & Scarface… I don’t know… I’m reaching … but maybe

[@slmusicreviews]

dude, I accidentally bumped in to one of your videos, now I can't stop watching. love to meet a another soul who put time to technicalities of tracks

[@NavieD]

Glad to have you on board my friend!

[@_unclecharles_]

The "We Gonna Make It" beat definitely coulda been on The Blueprint. it fit sonically

[@gsp1634]

Yeah that sounds like a Jay z beat

[@Saveyourbs]

@@gsp1634I always thought that it would be a perfect beat for Will Smith

[@danieljulbe2162]

@@gsp1634Fr fr

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

100 percent

[@ADG.Est.1988]

I agree.

[@steliosth.7426]

I would love to see a video analysing the Black Thought and Danger Mouse album, Cheat Codes. Listened to it a couple days ago and absolutely loved it. Seeing a video of yours about this album would be incredible

[@NavieD]

Ohh I forgot about that album. I haven't listened to it yet

[@dkproducer]

@@NavieDit’s great but the mixing is bad IMO

[@ukhokama2693]

​@@dkproducerstop thinking you quincy jones nigga

[@fentanyljones6956]

@@NavieDa Dangermouse breakdown (or 2 or 3) would be dope and only you can come correct with it. I’d also like to see you speak on Muggs, The Bomb Squad.

[@jrobbin24]

DJ Muggs is one of the most underrated producers in hip-hop history. I would love to see a video on him. Another producer I feel like we’ll never get the credit. He deserves is Mike E Clark. He produced Insane Clown Posse’s actual good albums from the 90s and he never gets the credit due because hip-hop has never embraced psychopathic records. I can’t say I’ve ever been a Juggalo but if you actually listen to the beats on Ringmaster or great Milenko, they are absolutely phenomenal and the mixing is perfect.

[@mickaeljobert9127]

It's not a mistake, it's all about feeling.

[@jimmy_b_wp]

Exactly. How tf this guy gonna say huge mistake? JZ still one of the GOATS

[@luvitluvitbaby]

Minor correction: The line in Jay-Z’s song “gimme that beat fool it’s full a time jack move” is paying homage to Ice Cube who originally said that line in his popular song from 1990 “Jackin For Beats” where the beat would keep switching up throughout the song to various popular beats by other popular rappers of the time. It was never seen as a diss.

[@TheSupremeDunk]

Also "Pump it Up" the beat is paying homage to Tribe Called Quest "Scenario Remix" ....he missed a few important gems in this video

[@luvitluvitbaby]

@@TheSupremeDunk Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[@sunnysoto1084]

​@@TheSupremeDunkI fucken love rap nerds

[@chrisforbes7832]

You're correct in the reference, but incorrect that it wasn't a diss. Jay loves double entendres which is what that was. The next line is "Don't worry Skano I'll give it back soon". Skane Dollar was Joe Budden's manager

[@SDSOverfiend]

@@TheSupremeDunkHe wasn’t paying homage… trust me. He was paying Joe Budden back for Flow jacking on that record. Budden lifted His flow from “The Bounce”.

[@KennyLauderdale]

Honestly, I think Jay-Z made the right choice. I think the artist that eventually went with the songs also made the right choice. It happened the way it needed to happen for a reason. Jay-Z is still at the top of his game at over 50 years old, choosing the records that he wanted and not choosing the beats that didn’t touch his soul or his heart like they did for you.

[@nikolaykostadinov2335]

:D

[@kke]

"Gimme that beat fool, it's a full time jack move" is the opening line of Ice Cube's song "Jackin' For Beats"

[@apexone5502]

I was just about to mention the same thing had I not seen your post.

[@aldali724]

Yeah that’s true but knowing the story behind it makes it easy to see it as a diss

[@Ric-E...Ricardo]

This is the best channel on YT so far.ive always wanted to make beats/be a dj, also break-down and analyze production...never did. Ive always had interest in all the oldschool classics, finding out where samples came from.Its so dope what youre doin, appreciate the work, props to you man.

[@djsunnysideup23]

thanks for always droppin that knowledge! Also, cool to see you the other day live reviewing beats. Maybe you can live stream you making bangers? peace and love from Japan.

[@NavieD]

Ooh I haven't done a beatmaking livestream in like 8 years hahah. It always made me nervous

[@edwinoneill5471]

GOAT DJSUNNYSIDE

[@NM-ir6wd]

Passing up on a beat isn't 'rejecting' it. Committing to a beat requires an immense amount of investment (time & energy)

[@mcgritty8842]

According to this dude, these were huge mistakes in Jay’s career

[@StreetGenius-oz2cr]

I remember hearing about the Jay-Z/Dipset "Oh Boy" beat issue with Just Blaze as well.

[@polyaplus]

it's not about the beat, it's about how connect with it and equally how you ride on it.

[@santospabon]

That whoa beat will always be🔥🔥🔥🔥that sample flip is crazy

[@Big.dragon00]

timeless beat

[@seancagney8897]

That beat is crazy......

[@williamsmalls-sf6vx]

That whoa beat fitted Black Rob perfectly and it's was a big hit too!....Specially, here in my city....NYC!!!

[@nickgilday8946]

Man I have to say.. You are probably the best at breaking down these beats, showing just enough to learn a little game but also not watching a 1 our video. Kudos my man.

[@charismatickidd]

Digging the greats is a good look too…check him out

[@jstacy628]

We Gonna Make It is in my workout playlist. I don't understand how Jay-Z passed up on that beat but I love how it turned out. 🔥🔥🔥

[@yannickanselm7284]

Jay is all over that beat when I hear it

[@terrenceliburd8655]

It was good but ive heard better even by Alchi himself.

[@BenedettoBeats]

Thanks for the quality content Navie 🙏

[@markott3978]

Man your videos are really awesome.. especially that your are skilled to rebuild these beats and show them to us

[@NavieD]

Which one of these rejected beats was your favorite?

[@Master27base]

the second one

[@menfefan8893]

Pump it up

[@MvnStn]

Whoa, ofc!

[@thecanadakid7622]

@@menfefan8893 yeah pump is up was the best, second best was prob we gonna make it, but in all honesty it gets repetitive needed some change ups, pump it kind of keeps its momentum going longer.

[@ThatiLeRosa]

PERFECT VIDEO. You went on about the samples then showed the creation process. Perfection man

[@brandonmoore644]

Not impossible. Whoa is so iconic, I called it from the bass and drum pattern. I was OBSESSED with that beat back in the day. It still goes crazy!

[@Neon_Kel]

Yup, I caught it as soon as the bassline kicked it

[@BronzeArms]

I watched that timbo and jay in studio alot alot of times very inspiring for beatmakers

[@keejay12]

Man when you announced this yesterday I was excited. I'm still hoping you do a Just Blaze video lol

[@NavieD]

I gotta say, I have broken down 2 of his beats (the other one will come out in a month or so) and I gotta say, he does a lot of interesting things that you don't quite see on the surface

[@keejay12]

@@NavieD yeah he does. I always loved his production style. I heard the sample he used for Don't Cross The Line by Freeway and can't figure out what he chopped out and how he got it to sound like that

[@diated.ghettochild]

First time coming across this channel, and the content ‘Hip-Hop, Producing, Sampling’? Man, count me in!

[@Prodbykayyso]

Always learn something new when you're subscribed to this channel

[@NavieD]

Glad I can help my love!

[@jesselowe9374]

I think things worked out the way they were supposed to. Sometimes, a track is just meant for who ends up on it. Besides, had Jay took those beats, who's to say that they would've been hot records. For example, I heard that Busta Rhymes passed on Lil Wayne's A Milli beat. That song was meant to be just the way it is.

[@The.ARCHIT3CT]

A lot of beat selection has to do with the overall aesthetic of the album. For instance, he wasn’t trying to make an album that sounded like Reasonable Doubt, in 2000. But Jay definitely was taking shots at Budden in the remix. Budden asked Jay to bless the track with a feature, and Jay told him he wld do it for $100k. Budden laughed and the rest is history.

[@emmebeatz]

appreciate the effort you put into weekly uploads

[@Ualrknow]

3:14 this might be my favorite beat of all time. Funny enough the first time I remember hearing it was when the cactus plant flea market McDonald’s trailer dropped. I thought it sounded A LOT like fun by Vince staples until someone showed me potion by ludacris. Makes me wanna see a Timbaland Vince colab. Beautiful beat

[@goodfella1605]

Man you never fail to make me laugh while making me learn at the same time. Thanks for all of your work Navie!

[@JackCity08401]

When Jay took pump it up I was perplexed because the original by Joey was my personal shit. But when Joey re-took the beat back it made me feel better. JERSEY! 🥂

[@PaulDiaz730]

All those beats are probably better off with the artists who landed them. Black Rob is one of my favorite artists and I also never skip "Whoa!". Great video!

[@jrobbin24]

One of my favorite videos you’ve done so far. Being a big alchemist fan myself I have to ask you a question. What do you think about his more recent beats? I recently went looking for inspiration and found most of his new beats, have no snares or claps or anything in that spot. I’ve heard beats like that in the past, but they were far and a few and they were so good that it made up for the missing instrument. In this case it seems in my opinion, like he may have lost his way since P passed but I’m not sure if it was just me.

[@willlicks8584]

lost his way???? the elephant man's bones is a masterpiece

[@jrobbin24]

This is why I asked. I might just be getting old. Alchemist has always been in my top five producers of all time, and Mobb Deep is my favorite rap group. I just seemed to notice a trend and it’s not just with him where boom BAP producers have taken the bap out of the BOOMBAP and I have to say it’s not for me.

[@jrobbin24]

I guess the best way to put it is a lot of these newer beats feel like a lead in and I find myself waiting for the beat to drop the whole entire song

[@willlicks8584]

@@jrobbin24 you're not objectively wrong, but boombap isn't gonna last forever, my brotha. times are changing and people are growing, changing, and evolving. stagnation is death

[@ElSan531]

Thank you for passing up on whoa! Black robs concept was special.

[@25mrkeys]

Passing up on "We Gon' Make It" is straight BLASPHEMY!! 😂

[@MetaMan09]

Facts idc what no one says, and it fits his personality 💯

[@NeilDonkin]

05:49, that lyric comes from Ice Cube's Jackin' for Beats track from the Kill at Will EP

[@ThaRebeliouZ]

Ras Kass didn't pass up on the "We Gon Make It" beat which was originally his with "Home Sweet Home" but that situation between him and ALC is messy.

[@seancagney8897]

YEP, was going to say this myself but scrolled down and saw your post. Al did Ras dirty on that.

[@Shifftee]

As soon as you put on the drums of the last beat I instantly recognized “Whoa”

[@gio7388]

Thing is, he’s got plenty of legendary beats as it is. I’m not sure if he had the bandwidth to bless every single hot beat that came his way. Especially since he wasn’t really a mixtape guy. He was mostly a studio album artist so he was trying to fit a specific sound to make his albums sound cohesive.

[@pejvuck0513]

Soon as you add the bass for last beat i recognised that. Such a great beat

[@nbabinladen5784]

While he didn't pass on it, one more classic beat that Jay Z originally was supposed to have is Grindin' by Clipse produced by The Neptunes. Story goes Pharrell called Pusha T and told him if he didn't show up to his studio in 15 minutes he was gonna give the beat to Jay

[@hailz44]

that jump off beat is one of my all time favourites

[@House_Husband_Romeo]

The fact that Navie knows who the Alchemist even is is a confirmation that he is a true hip hop head. Respect Navie ✊🏾 I personally liked the Alchemist collab with Mob Deep.

[@ranunculous]

i havent loved content this much in a while. very good shit, brother.

[@CoajaCristiandance]

illuminati: we say so

[@VZAAGE]

This is a great video! Can't believe anyone would pass up We Gonna Make It. I'm glad he did though because it probably wouldn't have been as great as what Jadakis and Ghist did with it.

[@NESDUB]

Great video, makes me think if Jay Z took these beats, it could’ve altered the course of history in such a drastic way.

[@MeauxGreenMusic]

Even crazier to think about that if some beats he took that were just album cuts could have been massive hits for smaller artists....

[@arsonoptics]

your videos are top tier broski. keep up the great work! 👊🏼

[@Live4beatss]

IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME WHAT PRODUCERS END UP DOING WITH A RANDOM SAMPLE -- I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO MAKING BEATS

[@los507187]

Great video sir!! It certainly surprised me!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DTHRILLS.DANIEL.THRILLRIDETV]

Nice creative video bro. Whoa brings back memories classic

[@Needzaname]

Just found your channel and like your videos. I like how you break down beats in detail. The beats you focus on though? After a few videos I can tell you are an East Coast guy. Man, you’re missing out. You would be awesome if you included more down south, beats that go hard. Or mix in R&B.

[@garrettbridges7866]

Ur videos are so fire dude. Very insightful

[@alb7844]

Love the backwards breakdown on Whoa. Im subscribing now.

[@originalg7541]

Qtip used that Kool and the Gang first for The Scenario remix. 1:45 in. Classic! Just Blaze also bit (yeah that's biting to my old self) the beat he gave J for PSA. That was first used by The BeatminerZ for Black Moon in Stay Real

[@themadsamplist]

6:19 When I hear that sample of Kool & the Gang the first thing that pops into my mind is Tough cookie by K-9 Posse. Christ I'm old.......

[@Advise4Life]

i love your video's realy nice to watch and to learn from them

[@steelokey]

Been lovin your videos man, keep up the great work. I’m only a minute in & im excited for the rest of it haha. Bless

[@duvalovertonii6601]

Instantly knew the beat from “Whoa”…definitely a song that represented hip hop for me in my development

[@sl156im]

Loved the beat breakdown!!

[@jahfus]

I met Alchemist in hippo Sonic studios in Vancouver BC back in like 2001-2003. He’s one of the coolest dude you’ll ever meet. Then mobb deep and busta rhymes came in the studio. 🔥

[@audreyazwell]

the like whoa beat is one of my favorites, wild Jay turned that one down, it goes so hard

[@TheChrisLouis]

Soon as I heard the sample for the last beat I was like.... WHOA.

[@lilbitabouteverythingpocast]

This is an incredible breakdown of the beats

[@misterrgalloway]

Super dope episode 🔥🔥🔥

[@cheysa7927]

2:55 In that same video with Timbaland,the other beat that JayZ passed was eventually used by Brandy in her album Afrodisiac,the song is called 'Come As you are' but it was neva a single.

[@thapowerexchange]

Well done, video! Top tier

[@sty723]

Beats are sooooooooooooooo awesome! The way dude keeps showing FL Studio makes me salivate like I wanna go back in the booth.😊

[@TheMoviebuff78]

What app o tool to use on pc for mixing Beats thanks nice video

[@DeViLiShGoD72]

5:49 I think that line is from Ice Cube on the song "Jackin for Beats"....😮

[@markesgrant]

5:50 that was a Ice Cube line on Jackin’ For Beats.

[@MezikeEllzy-or8sh]

Nice fur you to help us out understand how theses are made

[@mov2361]

fire synopsis

[@jas_bataille]

Your re-creations are insane dude holyshit as a producer... hats off to you!!!

[@pettymurphy2243]

You killed this video 🔥🔥🔥💪🏾

[@kahyyamdavis7783]

I loved this amazing work

[@bluebloodroyalty8012]

I like how you broke this down just subbed

[@sandrolecirque]

Navie, please tell me where you found the low wooden perc sound in THE POTION! I've been trying to find that for a month. Thank you.

[@sandrolecirque]

is it just a pitched down wood block?

[@Slickmentals]

Great job on this video.. big up to Kool and The Gang

[@Nigerianchief]

Great video bro.

[@wrldonwill]

I'm very impressed by your beat recreation game. It's scary.

[@itsthemcp]

When Jay Z said give me that beat fool its a full time jack move, thats a line from Ice Cubes song jackin 4 beats. Cube rapped on a bunch of popular beats in that song.

[@keithmiddleton6907]

Pump It Up is my JOINT!!!!!!!!! My Goto joint no matter how my day is going good or bad it always gets me hype n motivated!

[@AngeloMckenzie-t8v]

bless up bro

[@RhorieDreytv]

Dope video!

[@donsofflowent]

Man you love FL Studio, i been using it since it was Fruity loops 3, then i also used cakewalk and reason to name a few...

[@kaixas]

OMG!! you look like Karim Benzema in the Ballon D'or 2022. Amazing!!

[@krolkoolmarek7074]

Dope informations !❤

[@djefardeur7958]

dope review

[@retroesso]

I love your channel!!!!