Navy SEALs Drowned in 47 Secs Caught on Camera (Ft Seal Officer)

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Jamesons Travels

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@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
You won't beleive this sh7t:🚨Marine Corps Most RACIST Branch of the Military - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5e7poCCj7GFj8U
@rockybarnes307
@rockybarnes307 Ай бұрын
Hate to see this but happy to see your still around making these videos brother!
@garypiont6114
@garypiont6114 Ай бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels very enlightening. Thanks
@Clint-nk3ok
@Clint-nk3ok 29 күн бұрын
Bullshit
@Mthammere2010
@Mthammere2010 24 күн бұрын
You got a link to Jake's channel?
@josephmurphy8039
@josephmurphy8039 Күн бұрын
You right The Marine Corps is racist. They hate everyone who doesn’t bleed red. Love God, Country, and Corps.
@dfgivens
@dfgivens Ай бұрын
All surfers know this: Frothy water is far less buoyant than stable water. Water density is critical to flotation. If you can barely stay afloat in a wetsuit, you stand no chance carrying 70-pounds of gear.
@tormentorxl2732
@tormentorxl2732 Ай бұрын
This is absolutely the factor. I’m surprised they didn’t mention that.
@hereticlife2546
@hereticlife2546 Ай бұрын
Oh wow, they should hire some pot head surfers to go train the seals about water
@zachscott4867
@zachscott4867 Ай бұрын
Aerated water is like swimming in fog, probably 50% less efficient even wearing a 5/4 wetsuit. Great comment
@therock1902
@therock1902 Ай бұрын
​@@hereticlife2546those pot head surfer are actually smarter than some generals in the military.
@reefread1234
@reefread1234 Ай бұрын
Some of the best warriors are pot head surfers sir. Get out more.
@UtubeH8tr
@UtubeH8tr Ай бұрын
A "seal" drowning in water is like saying a marine overdosed on crayons.
@geo525252
@geo525252 Ай бұрын
I'm a Marine and you hurt my one feeling. Now give me my crayons.
@UtubeH8tr
@UtubeH8tr Ай бұрын
@@geo525252 They're in your mags devil dog.
@yourcringe-8
@yourcringe-8 Ай бұрын
​@@UtubeH8trLmao 😂
@burkejones8277
@burkejones8277 Ай бұрын
It is impossible for a Marine to overdose on crayons, sir!!! Semper Fi!!!😂😂
@luckypuppa4950
@luckypuppa4950 Ай бұрын
Have you ever seen a marine with crayons wonder why 😮
@eduardotirado839
@eduardotirado839 Ай бұрын
Open ocean water. Pitch black darkness. Big ship whitewater. Wearing heavy equipment. No flotation device. Nobody survives that…
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
Yup that's my take
@skipperclinton1087
@skipperclinton1087 Ай бұрын
​@@jakezweig: No telling if they got sucked in by the ships screws either. Neither body was recovered so it's only a guess.
@Jeff_D421
@Jeff_D421 Ай бұрын
Who on planet earth thought this was a good idea
@mcknightdaven
@mcknightdaven Ай бұрын
@@jakezweigMR ZWEIG MAKES LEGENDS FOR LIFE!!!!
@orlock20
@orlock20 Ай бұрын
@@Jeff_D421 Somebody that never read up on Murphy's Law.
@JuicySommelier
@JuicySommelier Ай бұрын
“Just be confident and never admit you’re wrong”. That’s what NCOs were taught in my unit. This is what that leads to.
@AlexanderOsias
@AlexanderOsias Ай бұрын
Never admit you're wrong? Seriously?
@greorbowlfinder7078
@greorbowlfinder7078 Ай бұрын
The officers are far worse. It's why they didn't learn anything from Vietnam.
@JuicySommelier
@JuicySommelier Ай бұрын
@@AlexanderOsias “Never admit you’re wrong and if you give bad information on accident then you stick to what you said while making up facts until they doubt their own reality.”
@FIGHT-R
@FIGHT-R Ай бұрын
@@JuicySommelier hmm sounds familiar.
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest Ай бұрын
​@@FIGHT-R Lol
@Mysucculentchinesemeal
@Mysucculentchinesemeal Ай бұрын
In combat, as in life, knowing your limits is extremely important.
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
jake covers this good. check his video
@garypiont6114
@garypiont6114 Ай бұрын
@@Mysucculentchinesemeal there is no limits in combat Mr yellow dog
@deathlarsen7502
@deathlarsen7502 Ай бұрын
"man's got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan
@jonasweiss5817
@jonasweiss5817 Ай бұрын
Incorrect.
@deathlarsen7502
@deathlarsen7502 Ай бұрын
@@jonasweiss5817 so you really push it to the edge when you play world of Warcraft
@captainmo3064
@captainmo3064 Ай бұрын
The oxygenated water likely caused a lack of general flotation. An Olympic gold medalist would not be able to tread water or float in those conditions.
@mcoop8464
@mcoop8464 Ай бұрын
All ocean water is oxygenated. It is literally in the name, H2O
@garypiont6114
@garypiont6114 22 күн бұрын
@@captainmo3064 hogwash.
@theimperialist2686
@theimperialist2686 Ай бұрын
This is another example of the pure insanity within our militaries.
@kurtangusofficial
@kurtangusofficial Ай бұрын
I'd say it's lack of proper leadership and also the "Cowboy Culture" will have guys making foolish mistakes like this.
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 Ай бұрын
Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Space Age, Clown Age.
@Nick-b7b9s
@Nick-b7b9s Ай бұрын
Jesus, thought they drowned in a simulation, wtf?
@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k
@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k Ай бұрын
Too busy doing courses about how men can have babies probably
@heightsofsagarmatha
@heightsofsagarmatha Ай бұрын
​@Starvinmarvin1111-u4k they don't have that, it's all toxic feminism
@pdubowner
@pdubowner Ай бұрын
If the boat was moving under power, they likely got sucked under it, and the hydrodynamics took over. Doesnt matter how good of a swimmer you are.
@pinnaclesofflight101
@pinnaclesofflight101 Ай бұрын
Comments like this need more likes. Majority of comments here are from boomers who say it was "wokeness" that drowned them.
@yourcringe-8
@yourcringe-8 Ай бұрын
​@@pinnaclesofflight101the ocean was woke 😢
@pinnaclesofflight101
@pinnaclesofflight101 Ай бұрын
@@yourcringe-8 it doesn’t have pronouns
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc Ай бұрын
In the report the boat was stationary . As the dow boat captain ordered to turn engine off . They reckon if the dow boat was moving it would have been easier to board the boat
@ISayNukem
@ISayNukem Ай бұрын
​@pinnaclesofflight101 Aren't you tired of that word? Man I'm tired of that word. 😄
@MavHunter20XX
@MavHunter20XX Ай бұрын
Imagine you learn your son just died from drowning, you're trying to wrap your mind around it thinking, "but my son is a SEAL, how the hell?"
@RaisedxFist
@RaisedxFist Ай бұрын
WAS*********** a Seal.
@Great_Lakes_Discus
@Great_Lakes_Discus Ай бұрын
@@RaisedxFistdidn’t need your two cents thank you
@rh906
@rh906 Ай бұрын
SEALs are overblown like most of the spec ops types. Its the ones that keep their mouths shut you need to worry about.
@rh906
@rh906 Ай бұрын
@@Great_Lakes_Discus It's KZbin...
@TemplarX2
@TemplarX2 Ай бұрын
@@rh906 This is when you glorify everything via Hollywood. Human beings are flawed. They make mistakes. Problem with navy seals they are not like elite athletes because the pool of soldiers who apply to become seals is really small. At any point, they are not peak human at all.
@zachurkevich1045
@zachurkevich1045 Ай бұрын
Pitch black with 20 foot swells off the coast of Somalia on a moving ship. One guy fell/slipped from the ladder and his brother jumped in to save him, probably knowing he would also die. He probably disappeared in seconds. No human could tread water in those conditions. The rest of that team probably had to finish that mission after losing two of their guys, too. RIP.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Ай бұрын
So we don't have high power lights on our ships now too?
@neilfloyd4812
@neilfloyd4812 Ай бұрын
Grenada invasion 1983, probably not too many out there remember this one but 4 Navy Seals from Seal team 6 died when they did a nighttime airborne jump into the ocean. They got tangled up in their gear and drowned.
@arphaksad01
@arphaksad01 Ай бұрын
rough seas at that time
@donnagant6575
@donnagant6575 Ай бұрын
I'm sure someone here can tie that to dei or trans ppl or "woke" culture being the real reason they died
@k53847
@k53847 Ай бұрын
AFAIK, it's unclear what happened, no bodies were recovered. The punchline is that there was a SEAL platoon with the Marine MEU offshore that could have done the mission without a night parachute drop, but Team 6 was new...
@OakviewForest
@OakviewForest Ай бұрын
​@@k53847 in other words, diversity
@k53847
@k53847 Ай бұрын
@@OakviewForest They were the new cool kids and everyone wanted a piece of that op, including the Team 6 guys and their senior sponsors. IIRC, it was a day jump that became a nigh jump and the weather got worse, but lots of people are watching, so...
@VNExperience
@VNExperience Ай бұрын
Always a great Monday morning when Jameson and Zweig upload, that's a double tap right there!
@Eluderatnight
@Eluderatnight Ай бұрын
Fishing at night on a boat is scary enough. Now add 100lbs of gear and guys trying to off you....
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Ай бұрын
Neither man had 100 lbs of gear. They had less gear than they trained treading water with.
@thespadestable
@thespadestable Ай бұрын
@@historyiwitness5915 - A moving ship, falling into water at night, no telling if the fall caused injury to both sailors.......Drowning can't be an incident taken off the checklist.
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Ай бұрын
@@thespadestable Wow you have all the answers. So trained elite soliders are "injured" by hitting water from a short height? Is that it? No idea what "drowning can't be an incident taken off the checklist", doesn't really make sense. Elite soldiers can't hold their breath? Neither one of them? Makes no difference if the ship was moving, either. Unsure why you posted this
@Wrenchmonkey1
@Wrenchmonkey1 Ай бұрын
@@historyiwitness5915 That's objectively false.
@thespadestable
@thespadestable Ай бұрын
@@historyiwitness5915 - "Elite soldiers" are not superhuman beings. When you fall off of anything with gear on, notably something that's moving, you are open to injuring your head, neck, back, shoulders. And also, this is the US Military we are talking about here. Stories about incidents are presented one way seem to tell a much different story once the truth comes out years and decades later. Two such cases, (1) Jessicia Lynch, (2) the 1989 USS Iowa turret explosion.
@briansharp4388
@briansharp4388 Ай бұрын
Climbing a Jacob's ladder is one of the most frightening things you can do. The weight of your gear, plus unstable ladder and seas.....you fall you are dead.
@PhilipDarragh
@PhilipDarragh Ай бұрын
The late actor Russel Johnson, who played the professor on Gilligan's Island did this. He flew bombing missions in the Pacific. His plane was shot down. He treaded water in the Pacific for 20 hrs B4 being rescued. He also had 2 Broken Ankles!😊😊
@neilfloyd4812
@neilfloyd4812 Ай бұрын
That's bad ass
@winstonsmith8482
@winstonsmith8482 Ай бұрын
😲Damn, they don't make em like that anymore. Dudes were 'built different' back then
@endorphinder
@endorphinder Ай бұрын
Back when heroes got chances to be stars, instead of "stars" getting chances to spout nonsense. Full on respect to the real heroes and no-platforming for the zeros.
@jice7074
@jice7074 Ай бұрын
​@@endorphinder A lot of celebrities back then served in the military and they went on humbly with careers after they served. It's just how people were back then.
@DabNaggit
@DabNaggit Ай бұрын
@@jice7074 yep, tons of WW2 heroes went back to teach shop or run an auto garage etc.
@abbottshaull9831
@abbottshaull9831 Ай бұрын
Also the lack of continuous training can be just as deadly as no training.
@rickgidney1005
@rickgidney1005 Ай бұрын
Excellent interview Mr. Jameson. Thank you for the content.
@IRONFOX6-fy5se
@IRONFOX6-fy5se Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This pisses me off because these are preventable deaths.
@trayccox8223
@trayccox8223 Ай бұрын
My son in law was English marine..went on to escort ships via Somalia..this is so awful their poor families 😢
@jimjoelliejack
@jimjoelliejack Ай бұрын
A Royal Marines commando. Not an English marine.🫡
@deltabravo9908
@deltabravo9908 Ай бұрын
Don’t you mean British?
@JamesQuinn-yw1dn
@JamesQuinn-yw1dn Ай бұрын
My sister is a Welsh marine
@bmos212
@bmos212 Ай бұрын
No water survival training for NSW, USCG learned in 2010 when a trainee fell off a caving ladder. AAR said he never trained with his water wings, (PECI), and didn't have CO2 cartridges in his flotation. We immediately instituted a WATER SURVIVAL TRAINING PROGRAM, where trainees learn to ditch kit, and save themselves.
@HawaiianBro808
@HawaiianBro808 Ай бұрын
Look, I've done plenty of VBSS (Visit, Board, Search & Seizure) operations & worked with SEALs. VBSS boardings is a highly dangerous muneuver regardless of how good of a swimmer you are. Typically, there is a safety boat behind that will be there incase of a man overboard. LT. Zweig is absolutely right doesnt matter how badass you think you are it is a failure that someone thought a SEAL thought he could jump in a save their buddy with full kit, at night, in rough waters. Trust me SEALs CAN tread water & swim at a high level but falling overboard at night is basically a death sentence. Been in close calls myself we had my 2021 Middle East/Afghan withdrawal Deployment, we Marine Recon guy hit his head in a dawn VBSS op & he fell off the ladder our safety boat was luckily there to save him/we had nods on picked him up right away. That was definitely a failure on training & like Lt. Zweig said Too Much Can do WILL KILL.
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
Jake was on it. Sad to see the command did not coach them up better BUT in the end like you say it's a dangerous Op and job
@saboabbas123
@saboabbas123 Ай бұрын
agreed. Overconfidence kills. Lots of examples of this.
@garethwilliams4467
@garethwilliams4467 Ай бұрын
@@saboabbas123 we're living in a world full of over confidence. Everyone seems very confident these days ...but competence seems to have plummeted
@timsimmons9995
@timsimmons9995 Ай бұрын
Nobody thought to have any emergency inflation flotation device and a chem light? Sounds like gross incompetence.
@barbdwyer22
@barbdwyer22 Ай бұрын
@@timsimmons9995 They were wearing a TFSS, but it still might not have been enough if deployed at certain depths. It's great to see everyone fixate on "tread water." It doesn't mean what you think it means. They could tread water. In fact, one of the SEALs that died was a collegiate swimmer and state champion. They meant their inability to tread water due to negative buoyancy caused by gear.
@Taskforceandy
@Taskforceandy Ай бұрын
I’m dumbfounded that you guys posted this.
@GSolo-x3i
@GSolo-x3i Ай бұрын
Nobody got fired. The higher ups knew they weren't ready.
@trentphillips8484
@trentphillips8484 Ай бұрын
They cover their ass just like the police
@ChrisNeal-v3w
@ChrisNeal-v3w Ай бұрын
Weren't ready? They would never be ready. People need to realize that Seals are mortal humans at the end of the day. You can't badass your way outa everything.
@rps714
@rps714 Ай бұрын
Promoted 🏆
@Ron-j3t
@Ron-j3t Ай бұрын
​@@trentphillips8484or anyone else right? Beyond reproach?
@holiday1
@holiday1 Ай бұрын
Wrong
@C_dougy
@C_dougy Ай бұрын
Jake’s breakdown on his page is straight up depressing on how descriptive the report laid out both SEALs final moments. All of this could have been prevented
@jdfriar
@jdfriar Ай бұрын
ship propwash is white water. why are they carring such a ridiculous amount of weight? 100 lbs is nonsense. 50 lbs is nonsense.
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
THat is the job
@Jeff_D421
@Jeff_D421 Ай бұрын
Facts,jumping into the ocean with that much gear is crazy,the video even said they trained with 75 lbs,why load them with 100
@k53847
@k53847 Ай бұрын
Report pointed out that some of the gear they had could/should have been hoisted, not carried. Like the probably 40 pound radio backpack. And the boat they were boarding was stopped at the time, that was why it was rocking so bad. The guys driving the boat had either cut the engine or taken it out of gear when the first SEALs boarded.
@JustNo8808
@JustNo8808 Ай бұрын
The original seals had not much weight on them
@CRebel-by9fb
@CRebel-by9fb Ай бұрын
This is becoming a problem across the military. Higher ups are making concessions to every single thing except weight and simply refuse to acknowledge our loads are too heavy.
@frankshanks9726
@frankshanks9726 Ай бұрын
“Fired” in the military means you keep your job you just get reassigned.
@SyntheticHuman01
@SyntheticHuman01 Ай бұрын
That saying goes "Never underestimate an old man in a profession where men usually die young." Experience will always trump the young cocky
@BulkernatorKerb
@BulkernatorKerb Ай бұрын
By your logic we should deploy 60yr old men to direct combat. Steven Seagal logic
@jewellcarpenter6764
@jewellcarpenter6764 Ай бұрын
For real to an extent 👌🏻
@SyntheticHuman01
@SyntheticHuman01 Ай бұрын
No, the term "old man" has nothing to do with age. It's experience. Would you feel better if your leader has been down range and knows what does and doesn't work. Or the new FNG as your leader that been in training and classes. Experience will let you know there's unknown variables.
@edmxero2029
@edmxero2029 Ай бұрын
​​@@BulkernatorKerb well the message is there and makes sense if you dont stop at "never underestimate and old man" and add in the rest of the metaphor lmao
@Wrenchmonkey1
@Wrenchmonkey1 Ай бұрын
Except neither of these guys were young. One was 37 and the other was 27. Both well old enough to know better.
@mr.quirk5565
@mr.quirk5565 Ай бұрын
My blood is boiling watching this video and reading these comments.
@yoloswaggins2161
@yoloswaggins2161 Ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this
@Vid7872
@Vid7872 Ай бұрын
Legacy airlines have done away with the swimming requirement for flight attendants since the covids because it's considered discriminatory. It's like having 6 life rafts onboard but only 2 are seaworthy
@NTATchannelNickTaylor
@NTATchannelNickTaylor Ай бұрын
SEALS that can't tread water? This is sad but how did they make it through BUDS? Something doesn't sound right.
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
read the linked report. "inability to tread water"
@NTATchannelNickTaylor
@NTATchannelNickTaylor Ай бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels Roger that.
@NTATchannelNickTaylor
@NTATchannelNickTaylor Ай бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels Read it top to bottom... I'm tracking. 👍🏽
@Tim82ATW
@Tim82ATW Ай бұрын
The standards have definitely dropped!!
@Noah-b6r9l
@Noah-b6r9l Ай бұрын
Lowered standards unfortunately, the teams are unmanned like a mfer they keep trying to push through as many people as possible to hit quotas.
@JimmyCasserole
@JimmyCasserole Ай бұрын
Damn.. This guy is very blunt and he does not sugarcoat.
@MXPX22
@MXPX22 Ай бұрын
Something we don't see every day anymore
@TB-ModelRR
@TB-ModelRR Ай бұрын
Water has yet to receive the DEI memo.
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
lol. no doubt. the sea can take the best at anytime.
@dmtaboo_truth7052
@dmtaboo_truth7052 Ай бұрын
"The Sea is always right!"
@lpg12338
@lpg12338 Ай бұрын
LOL! You would be correct on that one.
@RealTalkWithGaryM
@RealTalkWithGaryM Ай бұрын
It’s funny that the interviewer is talking to a person of color. While the commenter is talking DEI. And more than likely the two heroes who lost their lives are white. What does DEI have to do with this tragedy.
@hesnotfromearth
@hesnotfromearth Ай бұрын
Water is God
@southernSCkid
@southernSCkid Ай бұрын
Glad you and Jake fixed the beef
@DougPoulton
@DougPoulton Ай бұрын
Back in the 1960's and '70's you had to be 6 year obligated to go to BUDS. If you didn't make it they sent you to the fleet where you chipped paint for 6 years. At least in the Army you can be a hands on shooter from the start and can even become an Officer or a helicopter pilot without a college degree.
@alvinbonny1562
@alvinbonny1562 Ай бұрын
The Time you spend before going to BUDS is totally irrelevant in this Case. If the gear you carry is too heavy you drown thats basic physics.
@HerrinSchadenfreude
@HerrinSchadenfreude Ай бұрын
It was still a six year obligation through the 80's into the early 90's. Two year A school, advanced pay grade, so you go in at E-2 and come out of A at E-4. At the time, $30k reenlistment bonus as well.
@Kevinttvv
@Kevinttvv Ай бұрын
Can’t let our best die by our own damn man god bless him and family and his brothers.
@willhavel4525
@willhavel4525 Ай бұрын
Great collaboration. I've watched both of your channels (Jake & Jameson) for some time now. Keep up the good work.
@capy069
@capy069 Ай бұрын
Mmmkayy
@xxxxxx-tq4mw
@xxxxxx-tq4mw 24 күн бұрын
Overconfidence, and ignoring preventative safety details is a prescription which can lead to accidents and/or death.
@Tim82ATW
@Tim82ATW Ай бұрын
The standards have definitely dropped!!
@warrenlewis3977
@warrenlewis3977 Ай бұрын
Why would you say that??
@yourcringe-8
@yourcringe-8 Ай бұрын
4 Seals died in the ocean during the Grenada invasion, if anything 2 is an improvement. 🤷‍♂️
@Hathur
@Hathur Ай бұрын
Standards haven't DROPPED at all... but the training has CHANGED since 9/11. SEALS, after 9/11, had more of their training re-focused to ground warfare due to GWOT. Not a lot of terrorists in the ocean / sea, didn't make sense to heavily focus on ship boarding, beach / shore / dock incursions , etc. Reduced overall water training, more ground warfare / desert training. After GWOT ended, their training hasn't been re-calibrated yet to the best of my knowledge to focus on fundamentals pre-GWOT (which is unwise... considering the next war the US likely faces is in the Pacific... where SEALS will VERY much be needed with water skills).
@cryora
@cryora Ай бұрын
That's like looking at the Titan submersible incident and saying, well standards have dropped. That submersible should have held up longer.
@warrenlewis3977
@warrenlewis3977 Ай бұрын
@@Hathur Where in the Pacific Specifically and why?
@royroach5328
@royroach5328 11 күн бұрын
Jameson, Hailsa, man KZbin is suppressing your videos from me. I’m glad this one popped up as always quality content. Thank you stay well and blessed!
@erwynbalbuena9900
@erwynbalbuena9900 Ай бұрын
Another great video, sir! Big fan of your channel from Hawaii 🤙🏾
@jamiesonsambarhunter
@jamiesonsambarhunter 22 күн бұрын
Seals over rate themselves to the point they believe their BS.
@RGSABloke
@RGSABloke Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this young man, very tragic, OMG, WTF is happening in the elite services. Kindest regards from Bonnie Scotland. Joe.
@kenlandon7803
@kenlandon7803 Ай бұрын
DEI means people DIE
@markkimball1569
@markkimball1569 Ай бұрын
Worst part this was preventable. My son Usmc aviator was friends with Chris .. he was affected by his loss. We chat about things so they don’t cause stuff down the line ..👨🏻‍🚒 took me 38 yrs & every little loss adds up. God bless our military ,stay safe 🙏🏼.
@randombsgo4367
@randombsgo4367 Ай бұрын
but HOW?! they were so diverse! so stunning and brave!
@YouTubalcaine
@YouTubalcaine Ай бұрын
The sea is always right.
@skipperclinton1087
@skipperclinton1087 Ай бұрын
​@YouTubalcaine: And it always wins, too. It shows no mercy either.
@userchannel85917
@userchannel85917 Ай бұрын
They were both white. There is nothing to do with diversity in this case.
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy Ай бұрын
Both white and alphabet.
@YouTubalcaine
@YouTubalcaine Ай бұрын
@@userchannel85917 It does if standards are lowered to a produce a particular demographic outcome in graduating classes because "learning to swim is racist".
@PalimPalim-y7l
@PalimPalim-y7l Ай бұрын
What an elite unit. Gave me a chuckle.
@iflex1963
@iflex1963 Ай бұрын
Could the first man have been injured in the fall? And then panicked and drown his mate?
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
perhaps however the report says otherwise. see jakes channel
@benjaminburns4412
@benjaminburns4412 Ай бұрын
​@@JamesonsTravels Not that adding to shitstorm means anything..but we all should be familiar with the crap that's given to the general public when seals mess up. Falling for the initial propaganda of operation red wings only to find out what really happened has made me extremely skeptical. In short, this story could be even worse than what's fed to us.
@scholesiefirsttime
@scholesiefirsttime Ай бұрын
@@benjaminburns4412 Indeed. Wreaks of something much worse. Let’s hope it’s isolated - although 4 deaths this year suggests not. Each case different? Who really knows….
@andrew8854
@andrew8854 26 күн бұрын
"If I'm having problems, you let me drown...because whatever's giving me problems, is gonna kill you." Fantastic point and conversation about the issue. If the SEAL is drowning, you will drown faster. Sometimes once a thing happens, there is no going back.
@adaeptzulander2928
@adaeptzulander2928 Ай бұрын
They just can't say whatever mission they were on, so make up a lie and misdirect the public.
@Wrenchmonkey1
@Wrenchmonkey1 Ай бұрын
Nonsense.
@ToysRUsKid_Critter
@ToysRUsKid_Critter Ай бұрын
😂Airborne Sapper here , worked w all Tier 1, This vid is so spotmon regarding growing as a warrior from a field craft point of view . Warrior life is not all cutting the pie around a door… basic things like land nav or shitting in the woods , or keeping your feet healthy ……lol
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
Part of it or criminal leadership? Subscribe to Jake since he has a banger coming out on this! Jake's Video hkzbin.info/www/bejne/gIW4YWOkjdVkd7Msi=4eZuJoL6KY03AnAh
@lauramounir3660
@lauramounir3660 Ай бұрын
NO leadership and no accountability for criminal leadership and that goes all the way up to the top.
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update and link. Crazy stuff Semper Fi
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
@@markadkins9290 just link to his video
@jeffarp7409
@jeffarp7409 Ай бұрын
When y'all were talking about the seals and others, what came to my mind was, its easier to get younger people to not question authorities and do the dirty deeds a little easier than guys with a little more experience, that may question authority.​@@JamesonsTravels
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 Ай бұрын
@@D.v1dL33 Could be worse. We (woke asf NZ) have a ship that's identified as a submarine.
@gbedmonds1594
@gbedmonds1594 Ай бұрын
Former Navy here: I'm so tired of this! Remember when the worst thing about the military was "dont ask dont tell" ?? Well? This is what that has lead to wether you want to admit it or not! This is one, incredibly sad and two just embarrassing! What is the Navy doing?
@Justforfun-ek7et
@Justforfun-ek7et Ай бұрын
Not just that they can’t tread water they also get floatation devices that prevent them from dying in the water.
@Americal-v6r
@Americal-v6r 19 күн бұрын
When in doubt about the seals, who do you call? Hey Don Shipley where are you?
@ericgeesey9817
@ericgeesey9817 Ай бұрын
They're lowering standards & cutting corners as recruitment numbers are down.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Ай бұрын
The SEALs have not had any recruitment issues
@tanny1229
@tanny1229 Ай бұрын
More like trying to live up to the hype.
@jimjessie2704
@jimjessie2704 Ай бұрын
unless you have thru buds you don't know
@Pauly2Swole-1970
@Pauly2Swole-1970 Ай бұрын
Who wants to serve under a government that doesn’t respect you?
@702TifosiGambler
@702TifosiGambler Ай бұрын
@@jimjessie2704 negative …detailers, YN & PS know the BUDs attrition rate
@Maharodgi
@Maharodgi Ай бұрын
Guarantee someone got a promotion out of this
@christophersantrizos1657
@christophersantrizos1657 Ай бұрын
So they removed people controlling the ship and left it to drive itself while people were still climbing up. Which caused the ship to get crazy. Lost control. Prior to that they didn’t check their equipment & training standards/equipment. Consistent Failures in the Basics. Like Red Wings. Prior planning prevents piss poor performance.
@jackreacher.
@jackreacher. Ай бұрын
5:55 '' ... too much ''can-do'' will kill ....''
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
Facts
@cks6southsix262
@cks6southsix262 Ай бұрын
You cannot train for the impossible until the impossible presents itself!
@bernieeod57
@bernieeod57 Ай бұрын
On my first Submarine, we had SEALS on board. One SEAL showing off how tough he was pierced a fold on his neck with a nail and hung a 5 gallon bucket of water from the nail. One of our crew who did two tours in Vietnam as a Marine before coming over to the Navy scoffed proclaiming "One AK-47 round in your gut! You'll scream! Just like anybody else!"
@yossiallen3316
@yossiallen3316 Ай бұрын
Yep, no one is bullet proof
@bernieeod57
@bernieeod57 Ай бұрын
@@yossiallen3316 A veteran of one of the first SEAL teams to deploy to Nam commented "We were the most physically fit fighting unit in humans history! We learned very quickly that muscles don't stop bullets!
@Seriously-m1p
@Seriously-m1p 27 күн бұрын
The nail thing is stupid.
@leighz1962
@leighz1962 Ай бұрын
Bring back the education requirement for AF..
@JohnAdams-fm4gt
@JohnAdams-fm4gt Ай бұрын
Nah being called a seal and drowning in the same sentence is nasty work
@Fishin-mission1
@Fishin-mission1 Ай бұрын
😂😂 when you let the pink unicorns try to compete
@Ophanim_Cherub1.4
@Ophanim_Cherub1.4 19 күн бұрын
Your channel has gotten alot better. Good job brotha
@ashortiz3632
@ashortiz3632 Ай бұрын
That climb is no joke, doesn't matter what the seas are, geared up or not, never mind just stepping off the RHIB to the ladder. Second week of VBSS , first day is exactly that, a pass or fail test. It doesn't make sense why this happened.
@steveneff7879
@steveneff7879 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry. 72 lbs of gear and you can't use your hands? That is madness.
@yossiallen3316
@yossiallen3316 Ай бұрын
That isn't military training, that could be a death sentence. What's the point???????😮😮😮
@krombopulosmicheal2436
@krombopulosmicheal2436 Ай бұрын
All of are training is to be for real world application if its not for the real world then what is it for? That argument makes no sense.​ He couldn't tread water which is what they were supposed to know how to do and had equipment that was also to help him float. They're clearly lowering the training standards.@@yossiallen3316
@michaelfabian2401
@michaelfabian2401 Ай бұрын
He's BACK baby! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@michaelfabian2401
@michaelfabian2401 Ай бұрын
@@JackFromWyoming Will do, had no idea. Thanks man!
@Theweldingmillennial
@Theweldingmillennial Ай бұрын
That is insane, people have been drowning during amphibious operations for as long as we have been conduction them. Military brass always underestimating the risk, good reason to get the hell out. No amount of "training" can save you if your minimum combat load gives you negative buoyancy. It only takes about 9-10 lbs. of weight to sink a guy, with 70-90lbs you have no hope, even with a UDT. How does that pass the safety threshold for conducting an amphibious operation?
@32hernandez93
@32hernandez93 Ай бұрын
Rough waters or calm waters in pool?
@OnochieAfigbo
@OnochieAfigbo Ай бұрын
Very interesting discussion. Does the other gentleman have a channel?
@CharlesCurran-m9p
@CharlesCurran-m9p Ай бұрын
But they can name all 52 genders, right?
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 Ай бұрын
Alas it doesn't stop at 52, not by a long shot.
@maxsmith695
@maxsmith695 Ай бұрын
Funny,
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын
2019 called they want their ioke back
@iwillnotcomply6001
@iwillnotcomply6001 Ай бұрын
​@@lachlanchester8142you sound 10
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын
@@iwillnotcomply6001 2012 Xbox live chat called they want their joke back
@JeffreyWillis800
@JeffreyWillis800 Ай бұрын
Good video, good insight into operations and problems. Thank you.
@donmob07
@donmob07 Ай бұрын
Love jake zweig, what a guy. Waiting for this collaboration.
@slayer6936
@slayer6936 Ай бұрын
Trying to save a drowning person is probably the most dangerous thing to do!! They are grabbing you, trying to hold on to you, and they can take you down with them. It happened to a friend of mine in the Marines on a night dive, and my buddy trying to rescue him had to push away because our drowning friend was grabbing at his mask and his breathing apparatus and he had to push away from him and watch him sink when all he had to do was drop his waight belt.
@timcook7271
@timcook7271 Ай бұрын
Nobody will get fired ,they will get promoted.
@commonsenseisntcommon1776
@commonsenseisntcommon1776 Ай бұрын
It's not the Airforce
@azmanmdsalleh2009
@azmanmdsalleh2009 Ай бұрын
Promotion relies on other credentials, times and completion of certain courses.
@derek4101
@derek4101 Ай бұрын
Clearly you didn’t serve
@TenantRepGuru
@TenantRepGuru Ай бұрын
Fantastic interview. You guest was super informative.
@gregrobbins6716
@gregrobbins6716 Ай бұрын
Naw, the C.O. got promoted. Someone needs to fact check that though.I'm just going by all the other people in our government keep failing up
@koden24
@koden24 Ай бұрын
Excellent interview!
@iloveschicken6527
@iloveschicken6527 Ай бұрын
Wow! Crazy!
@Bobby-l1y
@Bobby-l1y Ай бұрын
Person in charge looking for that Milley promotion from utter failure
@joeschmuccatelli2167
@joeschmuccatelli2167 Ай бұрын
The 18X program in the Army is plainly asinine. The graduates are too immature, inexperienced and usually very arrogant. In the old days you had to be E-5 promotable to go to selection(SFAS). The Seals have the same problem. The Navy ought to send potential Seal recruits over to the Marines or the Army for a three year combat arms enlistment. They should also be at least E-5 promotable when they are discharged. Problem solved.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Ай бұрын
Or they just require all applicants have a minimum 2 years in of service in a combat unit.
@RemoWilliams-jg4yb
@RemoWilliams-jg4yb Ай бұрын
Nail on the head my friend. It still blows my MIND why there are seals to begin with. The Marine Corps is the Naval Infantry component of the Navy. It should be the Marine Corps that supplies the commando element for the Navy, not the other way around, WITH the caveat that Sailors could come over and try out ala Navy Corps man, but have to go through our training. And to make matters worse, a Marine can cross deck over to Delta, but they can't attend buds to trend with a seal team or saunter off to Devgru for a few years, then come back and applie the training to infantry battalions. EVERYONE wins. Delta guys do it when the have to go back to big Army, or back to their old unit. They bring that knowledge with them. The Navy does not come from an infantry background, so a rustpicker goes to the seals but has no idea the SUCK of the big Army or Marine Corps and probably never marched a guy to chow. You have guys that have never had a weapon, and combine that with the EGO of the seal teams, and it just makes for a bad combonation. Coming from an infantry background and being an NCO for sometime brings maturity.
@jamesburgess9253
@jamesburgess9253 Ай бұрын
@@RemoWilliams-jg4yb It helps when individuals have NCO experience and at least two or three years in Army combat arms and then transition.
@EastsideATLDave
@EastsideATLDave Ай бұрын
Glad to see you back.
@JamesonsTravels
@JamesonsTravels Ай бұрын
spread the good link. thanks for watching
@abbottshaull9831
@abbottshaull9831 Ай бұрын
It reminds me of the scene in Blackhawk Down, when troops were leaving behind plates of their body armor due to weight and lack of mobility if they worn it. All due to the fact, they believed it was just another milk run, not taking the situation as seriously as it was.
@slthbob
@slthbob 9 күн бұрын
Pilla, Cavaco, Ruiz, Smith...
@Floppy-1235
@Floppy-1235 Ай бұрын
Excellent interview
@zoltorortegus6259
@zoltorortegus6259 Ай бұрын
The initial question that comes to mind is, how did does someone drown in 47 seconds, let alone a navy seal? Most people can hold their breath for around a minute atleast. Navy seals are suppose to be able to hold their breath for over 3m as the norm. 2nd question is yea, aren't they trained to cut their gear loose when a malfunction like this happens?
@michaelmurray6197
@michaelmurray6197 Ай бұрын
This was the last time they were on the surface, they likely survived for longer underwater. And yeah they probably were trained to drop their equipment. But if a malfunction happened I'd bet the second guy decided to help out as they were going down. The problem that even experienced divers often don't think of is that buoyancy gets way worse the deeper you go. It's very easy to be dropping like a rock and get to a point where it's impossible to get back up in just a few minutes. Basically all the air gets compressed due to the pressure and so the deeper you go and the more compressed it gets the less water it displaces. Past a certain point even buoyancy devices reach the point where they would just drag you down even deeper because they don't offset their own weight. You would have to drop everything to go up, but you can't do that if you want to keep on breathing. But even that doesn't matter because the tanks you have likely don't have enough pressure to inflate your lungs and keep you breathing. And the pressure will make various chemicals inside your blood and body start to turn liquid and literally boil.
@zoltorortegus6259
@zoltorortegus6259 Ай бұрын
@@michaelmurray6197 Oh ok, and yea that's true.
@MilesAway-k6f
@MilesAway-k6f Ай бұрын
The higher ups on hearing this likely responded by saying, "did we recover the gear?"
@eldansambatyon
@eldansambatyon Ай бұрын
leaders are too busy turning the military woke
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
WOKE WOKE
@2ambaby198
@2ambaby198 Ай бұрын
Seals went Hollywood and the quality went down
@suzukidrz3425
@suzukidrz3425 Ай бұрын
Swim with no hands...just fins lol @00:13
@DavidPT40
@DavidPT40 Ай бұрын
This is a really informative video.
@vtwinbuilder3129
@vtwinbuilder3129 Ай бұрын
Where is Jake’s video? When is it out?
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
ITS COMING!!!
@JESUSisKING2715
@JESUSisKING2715 Ай бұрын
​@@jakezweigthe duo we didnt know we needed
@tonem834
@tonem834 Ай бұрын
Thank you all for your service and sorry for your loss!
@We-are-at-war-cw1zj
@We-are-at-war-cw1zj Ай бұрын
WTF!! BRING BACK THE OLD AMERICA WE KNOW
@warrenlewis3977
@warrenlewis3977 Ай бұрын
How far back??
@xfitslingshot
@xfitslingshot Ай бұрын
To your point: the old America was by and large a Godly nation, and God blessed it. As America has drifted away from Him and even gone so far as to say He’s a foolish idea, we’ve declined and now crossed the line into being openly judged by Him. America won’t come back until America comes back to the God who prospered us.
@cameronhermann9400
@cameronhermann9400 15 күн бұрын
Very cool, informative analysis like video
@jeremyharper5713
@jeremyharper5713 Ай бұрын
The seals use to have to be able to hold their breath for a 2 minute minimum
@jakezweig
@jakezweig Ай бұрын
easy to say
@wrestle4life234
@wrestle4life234 Ай бұрын
Ain’t much good holding your breath if the weight be dragging you down the ocean, or your head underneath the swells
@jeremyharper5713
@jeremyharper5713 Ай бұрын
@@wrestle4life234 facts
@yopappy6599
@yopappy6599 Ай бұрын
Dang, did you guys not even read the excerpt you put onscreen.? They didn’t drown 47 seconds. The first guy drown in 26 seconds and the 2nd guy drowned in 32 seconds.
@jeddmohlenkamp6870
@jeddmohlenkamp6870 Ай бұрын
The biggest threat when you go overboard on a ship is the ships screws will suck you in.. besides the weight of all your gear taking you to the bottom.. if you go in.. you immediately kick off your boots/ release your utility belt and sling bag swim/push away from the ship.. a lot of gear is sitting at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico from doing ship boardings ~USCG
@josephliptak
@josephliptak Ай бұрын
Today's Seal is not your grandfather's Seal.
@wilsoncaicedo5535
@wilsoncaicedo5535 Ай бұрын
Na im good not worth my life. Ridiculous and for what. To foght for a country who let veterans in yhe streets. Noppeeeeee
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