NBA Legend EXPOSES THE TRUTH About LeBron James

The NBA's all time leading assist man is not a fan of the super team era. Hope you enjoy.

[@Kashed]

There is no debate. No GOAT has to leave his team to win. No GOAT ever has fans burn his jersey.

[@seanm.1813]

I said the fact that he came back and got them a title says the decision was the right one. Tell me that the Cleveland Cavaliers would’ve been champions what out the decision?

[@alfuller1332]

The GOAT don't falter in the playoffs. No GOAT gets challenged and outplayed by a role player. No GOAT gets pushed in the back by his OWN team mate to play defense.

[@albundy5492]

Have a losing record when it counts be an ovbious juice head a lot of things makes this man not the goat

[@kweli05]

A player of his caliber should be able to recruit others to come play with him. Going to the Lakers was the last straw for me.

[@Shockwave117yt]

How to say I hate LeBron James without saying it Uncut hoops: The rest of Jordashians:

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Shout out to the legend John Stockton! He told no lies...

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

How can you take anyone, who refuses to wear a mask, seriously??????????

[@dhruvadude808]

Stockton is so much tougher than lebron, as are MJ, Bird, Magic, and even Wade, NONE of whom ever quit or chased rings. Remember lebron's first stint with Cleveland when he wouldn't even walk past half court during a deciding playoff game loss? Gutless.

[@iliketocomment8144]

Kobe you left out Kobe.

[@keithjoseph128]

​@@iliketocomment8144stop with that media garbage. Was he clutch too?

[@iliketocomment8144]

@@keithjoseph128 was Kobe clutch? F*** yeah! He controlled 4th quarters and made his fair share of game winners and go ahead buckets in regular season, playoffs, and finals.

[@LiftHeavier]

The player empowerment era has also been abysmal for fans. We used to identify with our teams which represented our cities, which we took pride in - centered around a stable star or core that would be there for years and years, with moving parts & role players coming and going around them. Now the stars & cores come and go just as often as the role players used to, leaving fans with no real team or city pride, nothing to connect and identify with as the star/core is likely to be there for only a short time.

[@dominiquejones3805]

No need 2 buy jerseys anymore

[@Matthew-uq4hu]

​@@dominiquejones3805pretty much. I only buy legends jerseys

[@Jimmy-ik2kc]

I agree and fans pay their hard earned money to come see the stars play and they're doing load management.....There should be a partial refund when the superstars and stars don't play because of load management ....not being injured. Jordan and the other old heads tried to play every game even with nagging injuries. Today's NBA players are soft as f!

[@keithjoseph128]

@@Jimmy-ik2kc stars are media made though. That's their faults for wanting to watch some of these guys.

[@christinemurray1444]

They're unashamedly mercenaries now.

[@seriouslystewarts3537]

Player mobility aka “teaming up” and load management aka “sitting out games” almost destroyed the entire 2010s 👀

[@dominiquejones3805]

Facts

[@deloreswilliams1027]

LeBron is one the greatest roll player’s next to Robert Horry

[@dacobylaw4721]

Honestly nowadays I keep thinking whatever happened to the days of winning a title the right way today it feels like everyone is trying to win a ring the easy way. the reason I like the Denver Nuggets is because their road to winning a championship was completely natural and organic.

[@keithjoseph128]

So Denver drafted all those players? Or even half? You media puppets are sad.

[@cdknowledge]

​@@keithjoseph128thats not the point. The guys at Denver have been together for a long time. It's as much of a family as it is a team over there. You don't get that same vibe from the teams like the Lakers...

[@keithjoseph128]

@@cdknowledge that was exactly the point he was trying to make and they haven't had that core long.

[@dacobylaw4721]

@@keithjoseph128 the thing is many of the players like Aaron Gordon and Bruce Brown were forgotten by the NBA until they came to Denver what I meant by natural and organic is that they use the draft and they develop all their players into contributing to the teams success.

[@darnellwilliams8783]

​@@dacobylaw4721yall love complaining winning a cham is good enough no matter how you do it yall are hypocritical yall mock players for not winning championships

[@PeterWalker-qt7vb]

much respect to the legend John Stockon for speaking the truth

[@kaybigg]

My favorite pg of all time.. Top 5 with Magic Big O, Zeke and The logo

[@PIP...33]

@@kaybigg U MEAN NUMBER 1 PG EVER !! STOCKTON, ZEKE, KIDD GLOVE THEN MAYBE MAGIC. BTW OSCAR WAS 6'5 COMBO SG THE ONLY REASON PPL CALL HIM PG BECAUSAE HE HAD BALL IN HIS HANDS LIKE DONCIC. TO BE PG U NEED TO GUARD OPPOSITE PG MATCHUP WHAT MAGIC, CURRY OR OSCAR NEVER DID.

[@perditadurango9699]

@@PIP...33 Most smartest comment i ever read.

[@perditadurango9699]

@@PIP...33 u r smart mate i never see curry magic doncic and as u said oscar to defend direct pg matchups that makes em low rating in my eyes but as u statet especially kidd and payton full court then zeke and stockton on top of PG list because they are 2 way and true natuakl pg.

[@PIP...33]

@@perditadurango9699 THANX. YES THATS WHY IM SAYING. MAGIC CURRY OSCAR OR DONCIC AND HARDEN ARE NOT TOP TIER BECAUSE THEY HIDE IN DEFENSE VS DIRECT MATCHUPS. GARY PAYTON IS 5X BETTER THAN MAGIC

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

LeBron needed someone to raise him with the idea that quitting or running away from challenges is something to be ashamed of

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

Shame is what narcissist want to avoid..There Shame don't work like regular people..There Shame is not succeeding..They don't care about how they win who they got gaslight..The steps they got to take..Who they got to use it's about the narcissist and what he or she wants..

[@CreamPieSundays]

That's why fathers are so important... These single mother dudes are hella soft... Not all but most.

[@mistwiir4011]

She was too busy sleeping with his teammates.

[@chucknorris2418]

​@@mistwiir4011💀

[@victormotta5728]

Instead he got a dad that ran awat and quitted the challenge of rasing a child. Lbj narcissism is the outcome.

[@Zamppa86]

What LeBron has done since the summer of '10 and his 'The Decision' is hurt the NBA and game of basketball. Everything has been about him, him and him even though he has not even been the best player in the league for roughly half of that time. He has a constant need to be on the spotlight. Even after getting swept by Denver he wanted the spotlight with his statements even though the real thing was how badly he failed in the playoffs yet again. When LeBron retires it will be the best day for basketball since summer '10. We finally will get rid off him and can start talking about other players and basketball things. The league as a whole can start its healing process.

[@keenakaur6314]

Perfectly said, and I agree 100%. I can't wait until the day he retires, it will be so refreshing. If his team wins, it's all because of him. If they lose, which they usually do in the playoffs, it's all because of his teammates. I've never despised an athlete more than him. And him eventually winding up with the Los Angeles Lakers, was the most predictable thing of all time. Once Lebron retires, you can bank on Kevin Durant winding up in purple and gold.

[@HeathOverledger]

I think he’s at the fork in the road where he can keep playing and killing his legacy with each passing minute that he’ll never catch the ghosts of MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, etc., just run up the “longevity stats” and continue to place himself at the center of attention *OR* (finally) retire and let the next generation carve out their legacies. He’s too self involved for the latter, maybe his son not being able to play professionally could move that retirement up sooner? 🤔

[@gggyy7104]

Everything is only about him because YOU (and other Lebron haters) make it about him. You bring him up in a video about Curry vs Magic for example.

[@jespacey]

​@@gggyy7104cope cry seethe, bronette

[@DonSMDT]

bro it was 15 years ago and he came back and won you a ring why are you still pissed like a 2011 cavs fan

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

So many bad things can be traced back to LeBron.

[@JohnDoe-xm8wi]

Would you please be kind enough to share some of them?

[@manwerama]

​@@JohnDoe-xm8wione is clearly outlined in the video. Another would be legitimising flops.

[@JohnDoe-xm8wi]

@@manwerama I didn’t watch the video, I’m asking YOU. So called “flops” didn’t begin or end with LeBron James and it’s never been a major part of his game which is proven by his FT attempts. You sound like a Hockey fan, you definitely don’t watch basketball

[@LilJMoore]

​@@JohnDoe-xm8wiI didn't watch but in the comments defending Lebron. Lol bron fanboys are hilarious

[@schoolroadentertainment7631]

@@JohnDoe-xm8wi As per Stephen A, getting Klutch Sports Head (Rich Paul) to 'harass' main media when it comes to his placement in the 'GOAT' tier list. One of the biggest and earliest examples (outside of the aging Big 3 in Boston) of super team forming and superstar recruitment. Is notorious for tampering with squad management and Front Office decisions (most recently the Russ situation). Calls himself the GOAT without real, universal appeal to that claim (People don't say you're the Lebron of something if you're the best at it, they say you're the Michael Jordan of it!) Also, the rest of the world recognize MJ as the greatest to ever touch the hardwood... that's gotta mean something you know?

[@midnightlumina7]

"Player Empowerment" is a guise for a "ME OVER WE" mentality. This is the real poison that is killing Basketball. No Player is playing for the love of the game anymore, AND IT SHOWS.

[@mvolpe998]

Rodman wasn't signed. The Bulls traded for him. They traded Will Perdue for Rodman because that's how badly San Antonio wanted to rid itself of him. Any team could have gotten him just by calling the Spurs. Rodman coming to the Bulls was not primarily MJs doing but Jerry Krause. Arguably, his best move.

[@dominiquejones3805]

Facts

[@masculinitymatters9030]

Exactly. Will Perdue. In today's game, that is like Jaylen Brown for Dillion Brooks.

[@it15]

Yep, and no other team wanted to touch Rodman with a ten-foot pole

[@mattf3873]

True.. they missed Grant at the PF for that second three until Rodman

[@raurmanproductions3438]

And Rodman was 34 when that trade took place, not in his prime.

[@MannyMensah94]

John Stockton was a great player.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Excellent player. He's still the NBA's all time leader in assists and steals by a wide margin.

[@uberneanderthal]

GOAT point guard imo. Magic was more versatile and the better all-around player, but he was susceptible to turnovers and ball pressure. John was the better point guard.

[@keithjoseph128]

​@@uberneanderthalbetter all around? He was the worst defensive PG his entire career.

[@uberneanderthal]

@@keithjoseph128 he was consistently top ten in both DBPM and defensive win shares, and led the league in steals twice.

[@HeathOverledger]

Also literally one of the most durable players to ever live. The fact that Karl Malone was together for 18 years is even crazier

[@Blackenedification]

even Lebron chasing rings and jumping ships for 13 straight seasons, he only got 4 rings

[@JonasWeather]

More like 3.5 that bubble ring is a joke

[@lexus1903]

You can easily argue that this whole player empowerment and moving from team to team has not worked at all. Even for LBJ it has backfired because he has not won more titles than the great ones who stayed loyal. For your legacy it's also better to stick to that one franchise that you will be remembered by.

[@keithjoseph128]

Not Cleveland, especially with Dan Gilbert. If he doesn't go to Miami he would have exactly zero rings.

[@JohnDoe-xm8wi]

You could easily argue that Stockton has Zero rings because he was too weak to control his own legacy.

[@strmshadow8411]

@@JohnDoe-xm8wi How would toughing it out with a single team be weak? Weak is the person that has to jump to the "Perfect" situation just to win because they know they are not good enough to do it where their at.

[@AlexK878]

@@JohnDoe-xm8wi You just won a gold medal in mental gymnastics

[@TeamStudNation1280]

Loyalty to a franchise didn't benefit every NBA player

[@Adaptation49.42]

Beautiful video 👍 LeBron in 11 seasons in Cleveland won one championship, lost 4 finals got swept twice and was 7-19 in the finals 😬

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

The goatee

[@robesch88]

And the only championship came after he let them build another superteam.

[@perditadurango9699]

@@robesch88 where is MJ rings in 80's ?? entire decade

[@vincentbyrd5350]

​@@perditadurango9699u mean the same decade he won scoring title, steals titles, dpoty,mvp while going against prime bird magic Isiah Joe dumars rodman Thomas Kevin McHale hakeem John Stockton kareem? Nay I compare bron 2000s finals to mjs 80s 👀

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@robesch88and got Adam Silver involved to suspend Draymond.

[@luisrodriguez-mb7cc]

Magic, Bird, Stockton, Thomas, Olajuwon, Robinson, Kobe and Duncan among others played their entire careers in one single franchise. Most of the ones I just mentioned won titles except for Stockton, but at least they stayed loyal to the teams that gave them their first shots. Today's players are loyal to only to two things...MONEY AND TITLES. Fortunately this mercenaries era appears to be coming to an abrupt end.

[@robjorfan3940]

You do realize Kobe almost left the laker because they were not winning and that Duncan almost left the spurs for Orlando

[@FZ_Images21]

@@robjorfan3940key word, ALMOST. Still didn’t happened cause things obviously worked out. Still doesn’t compare to the punk moves Lebron and KD pulled

[@riotordiet9154]

@@robjorfan3940almost after 13 years and years of the same terrible roster…They werent winning 66 games like lebron cavs!!

[@stpbasss3773]

​@@robjorfan3940so what, magic also wanted a trade for a very short time, when dumbass Westhead was coach........they didn't leave though so your almost is pointless. Like saying LeBron was almost a ten time champion 😂.

[@luisrodriguez-mb7cc]

@@robjorfan3940 Did they leave? No Almost is hypothetical Jordan almost left basketball to pursue his dad's dream of him playing baseball Did he leave entirely? No Jordan almost played for the Blazers and Kobe for the Magic Did it happen? No You have to base on facts, and the fact is those Superstars played their entire careers in one team P.S Pippen was almost drafted by Sonics Imagine how the history of the NBA for the 1990's could have changed had this event happpened

[@RetroKid]

CaBron is like Larsa Pippen. She uses up the man she's with, and when he's all out of money, or too old, she moves on to a younger dude. CaBron uses up his teammates until they're of no use, then he moves on. The idea of longevity is skewed by the fact that he's constantly surrounding himself with young and relevant players, and at some point, he's benefitting from them more than they're benefitting from him.

[@millianalove]

🎯

[@doktor3196]

"He's the GOAT. He can do whatever he wants." The only one who is doing whatever he wants and still not getting what he wants.

[@ciscoflores5512]

LeBron is the goat? Lololollol troll

[@terterman8585]

​@@ciscoflores5512He is quoting and then making his point

[@iliketocomment8144]

He’ll never be Jordan’s status. He’ll never be considered better than him. Ever.

[@terterman8585]

@@johnimegi5483 No way kid

[@bobmonteiro9458]

Yes he’s the flopping and swept goat 😂😂😂😂

[@Rakven]

Players used to take ownership and responsibility for their teams once they got handed the keys. It wasn't just blind loyalty it was actually more meaningful once they did win because of what they had to overcome to get there AS A TEAM

[@dominiquejones3805]

What gets me is they made way less but took pride n playing 4 the fans & respected the grind

[@robertmcphail1464]

Not only that, but they wanted to beat the best, not join the best. They wanted to battle against other great players so they knew they were the best of the best.

[@ericc5556]

One of the biggest knocks I have against LeBron is as a superstar, and a generational talent. He has done far less with more than any player in NBA history. You just made an additional point that I never considered, on MJs side. If MJ went ring chasing no one would ever match his accomplishments. MJ/Magic, MJ/Bird, MJ/Barkley, MJ/Hakeem, MJ/Stockton/Malone, MJ/Starks/Ewing to name some would be virtually unbeatable during that era.

[@Jimmy-ik2kc]

We thought 72-10 was an outstanding recording can you imagine 79-3 with the combo of any of those players.

[@Jumani69B14EVA]

Yep!

[@Dave-yp3mb]

Chicago built a team around him. Did Cleveland no. Look at his roster his 1st stint most were ex stars.

[@Dave-yp3mb]

Cause that era was full of expansion teams you guys must young.

[@Dave-yp3mb]

Rodman was a made man when he went to the bulls.

[@krysis54]

If Stockton went to the bulls with his stats and won chips, he would be seen as top 10 all time. It's sad that people don't realize his greatness without the chips

[@ronniedeclue3567]

Stockton is a beast and do people honestly put him in their all time 25 it's sad that guy never quit. He's the truth

[@Dapper_Dean]

Many great players has no chips, because they were on the 'Jordan era'. No shame on their game like Lebron.

[@BlindfoldSniper]

I really liked watching Stockton even though it would usually be when Team USA were playing (not a jazz fan tbh even though the synergy with Malone was God-tier).

[@ronniedeclue3567]

He's a legend I think he's like top 5 point guard of all time that man wouldn't stop moving and I was an MJ fan. He stayed with the jazz his whole career. He definitely was a beast.

[@adamm2787]

His greatest stat, in my opinion, is that he played in all 82 games 16 times and started all 82 games 12 times! That shit is crazy.

[@thelastflop]

70+ trades 😂

[@_M....]

80+

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Some years ago, Brian Windhorst said LBJ has played with over 80 different playoff teammates. This was before he came to L.A.

[@andrewbarnes08]

Lebron play with 246 different teammates and lebron had 24 playoffs teammates he played with on his teams so yea that dude did jump around alot lol

[@BlackCell29.99]

FACTS! Just shows this dude has no heart, and needs league-wide help

[@NickPR87]

The thing is that, if players want to collude and build "super teams", let them. But doing so should immediately put an asterisk on their competitive spirit and leadership as qualities. I don't even mind someone like Dame asking for a trade, but just don't sign an extension when you already believe the team is not gonna be competitive; and if you do take that money then the team should trade him to wherever they think will give them the best value in return.

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

But if the front office swings a trade that puts multiple all stars on the same team, does that team get an asterisk too? Or what about teams that benefitted from injuries to key players to win? Do they get an asterisk?

[@strmshadow8411]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 Completely different situation, but I think the player superteam building should not be allowed. It kills competition and makes the league less enjoyable meaning less profitable. Who wants to watch anything when you know who'll win? They might watch it the first time, but the second, third?

[@msharp138]

​@strmshadow8411 It doesn't matter who put the team together. If its a super team it kills competition...

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

@@strmshadow8411 gotta disagree with you cause with that logic, dynasties should be terrible for the league but they're not. People still watched through the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls dynasties, in fact, in most cases they watched more just to see them win (or see them finally fall).

[@strmshadow8411]

@@msharp138 In someway it does though. The traditional way it's not really possible because they have to give up so much the create the team ie Brooklyn. But I'm also against any move that destroys a good competitive balance. I want to see the 1's of the NBA play against each other and represent their team not join their competition (Something that shouldn't be possible anyway).

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Correction: Bulls GM Krause went after Rodman after speaking to Phil first & making Dennis apologize to Scottie. Jordan didn't get involved until after all of this was done. But it is true, if Krause had not traded Will Purdue to the Spurs in exchange for Rodman, David Stern would have kicked him out of the league. Facts

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

Needed to replace Horace Grant, who jumped ship. He did. Brilliantly.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@kenneths.perlman1112 Agreed

[@rickie0]

You miss the key point, that is what team managements are supposed to do, not for the players to decide that because they can't win a championship with a particular team they can just up and jump ship to another team just to win a ring/s...that is the trend set by the GLOAT James and copied by Kevin Durant.

[@perditadurango9699]

@@kenneths.perlman1112 they already replace horace with kukoc best euro player final mvp what help u want more vs 1 Shaq and Penny ? MJ is nobody will never be great

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@rickie0I didn't miss that point.

[@Sketch_0123]

I wonder if LBJ going straight to the NBA was a detriment to how he views the game. I recall the late Flip Saunders saying in an interview that getting KG was definitely a gamble bc the concern was development. Can a high school player make the transition to the NBA? Fortunately, KG was a beast for the Wolves and a champ for the Celts. Could the reason that Lebron “team hops” so much is that he never learned the importance of chemistry, patience and trusting a coach through the process - things that are heavily emphasized in college? Jokic, Curry, Kobe, Hakeem, MJ and other past champs understood the importance of building chemistry. Lebron lacks that.

[@HeathOverledger]

That’s a great point and absolutely yes this is the case. He came to a struggling franchise and was given the keys at 18 and a green light into averaging 19 shots a game and the whole team game revolves around him. He never needed to not be ball dominant and polish his game like a player with college ball experience. Add to that a revolving door of coaches, teammates and embarrassing flameouts eventually drive him to take the easy route in Miami. Like many of you, we are looking forward to the day he announces his retirement so the league can be a little more fun and competitive again.

[@Sketch_0123]

@@HeathOverledger Exactly! You’re right.

[@carmcam1]

isn't kobe also straight out of h.s.? But you have a point, I think LBJ lacks maturity and mental toughness, some even notice that he didn't hone his skills as he got older, hence the lebrick mockery

[@Sketch_0123]

@@carmcam1 Yes. Kobe, too, was straight out of HS. However, he did learn the importance of chemistry. At least it seems that way post-Shaq. I like your point about LeBrick not honing his skills. It’s evident when you watch him.

[@asaptenebrae2240]

I agree. If he had played at least two seasons in ncaa he could have been a better player.

[@user-li2ir5ss5p]

The player empowerment era has contributed to the lack of parity in the NBA. In the 80’s and 90’s every team had at least 2-3 all star players on their roster. If you look at the majority of the greatest players that won championship’s, most of them played for only one team.

[@rabbitsfoot8]

it's why Dirks, and Giannis chips mean more imo than LeBron's Miamis, and Kds in gs

[@BallerBrain]

Except they don't

[@nygmatik2699]

@@BallerBrain they do! Just like how Tim Duncan’s 4 other rings holds more weight than his lock out season ring! Edit: and Tim’s lock out season ring holds more weight than the bubble one!😂

[@BallerBrain]

@@nygmatik2699 Each ring weighs the same

[@nygmatik2699]

@@BallerBrain nah!

[@dresantana7157]

Facts. Even some greats have said this. A lot of people think dirks ring is better then the two rings the heat got combined.

[@ijamorris3449]

Fun fact, during the time bron went to 8 straight finals, there were 135 all nba players in the league. 70% of them were in the west! Out of the 43 players that were in the east, 1/3 of those players played on brons teams. As good as that run sounds on face value, the truth is he had an overwhelmingly advantage over the eastern conference during that time. Hence, 8 staright appearances. They always disect jordans comp and call it mid but then champion bron for just going to the finals in a very weak east while ignoring how mid that was.

[@keithjoseph128]

Your math is way off.

[@ijamorris3449]

@@keithjoseph128 70% of 135 is 94.5. 135-94.5=40.5 I read there were 43 players in the east. So to be honest it was generous at giving him 3 more players in the east. Lol you ok over there?

[@keithjoseph128]

@@ijamorris3449 what years are you talking about? I think you have that debate show puppetry going on here. And you just said you lied already.

[@ijamorris3449]

@@keithjoseph128 huh you said it was way off. It was 3 players off giving the east 43 players instead of approximately 40. No lies here. If your mad about a 3 player difference that's a you problem. Your making it sound like it was a 30 player difference in the math.

[@georgeprchal3924]

And now the West is somehow the weakest conference ever too now that he's there.

[@vgrg7841]

John Stockton is absolutely right about lebrun james

[@TheTalontedOne]

Another thing about Jordan is that when he came back, he could have gone to ANY team he wanted. He could've signed with the Rockets since they were already champions in his absence, but he went back to the team he had success with prior.

[@kenlen8029]

Needed Pippen

[@davidhelweg1449]

@@kenlen8029 pippen was drafted there, but they had to get Rodman for the last 3 rings

[@kenlen8029]

Also needed John Paxson and Steve Kirr to bail him out in key games. 👍@@davidhelweg1449

[@meinardsl]

The one thing I can't forgive LeBron James is him trying to get coach Spoelstra fired the moment he got to Miami.

[@ripfree603]

Lebron did all this to only have four rings lol. If he would’ve won just one in Cleveland w/o jumping ship he would get way more respect from people. Nobody can deny this guy’s talent it’s his heart we question.

[@keithjoseph128]

No possible way Dan Gilbert builds a good enough team without that number one pick and the cap space that cleared.

[@metzy1245]

If he stayed in Cleveland he’d be lucky to have 2 rings with the poor front office he had. Him leaving allowed him to actually make a case as the greatest of all time despite being very criticized.

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

With a front office that says no to Amar'e Stoudemire for JJ goddamn Hickson? He was never gonna win there if he stayed

[@davis2k1234]

@@keithjoseph128 Will never know that he was spending a ton of $$ as a small market owner trying to win can’t blame him and the front office did ok they put a top 3 defensive team and shooters for Lebron to kick to

[@gggyy7104]

That’s a blatant lie. If he stayed in Cleveland he would have 0 rings and wouldn’t even crack the top 50 all time. Because he made a smart decision and left, he’s unanimously top 3.

[@Dapper_Dean]

You can say that about the 2008 Celtics team as well. You can easily consider them, as being the 1st on building a super team.

[@kenlen8029]

No it was a thing long before that. Many people who hate LeBron just don't know anything about basketball. Probably never played a game in their life. Just yelling at the tv when games are on to take out their every day frustration.

[@NastyNorfSidazENT]

Yea but when you take into consideration that Boston’s front office made the deals that brought in Garnett and Allen, and not Paul Pierce pushing for these deals, then you’ll realize its not the same as LeBron planning to play in Miami with Wade and Bosh while still playing in Cleveland mid season.

[@georgeprchal3924]

Super Teams have been around since 1990-always. People only cared when LeBron became a free agent and decided to go elsewhere.

[@joshchambers5163]

​@@kenlen8029lol can't fix stupid

[@nicoli-thenextup9866]

Because how can you be the greatest of all time if you’re constantly jumping ship when things get bad but you want to take the glory from winning but not take the blame for losing😂

[@uberneanderthal]

exactly. it's one thing if it's late in your career and your franchise is a mess like KG and the Wolves. but Lebron was in his prime and abandoned a 61-win team. inexcusable.

[@danielbyimira2033]

@@uberneanderthal hes single handedly the only reason that 61 win team had even more than 30 wins goofy

[@uberneanderthal]

@@danielbyimira2033 oh i guess the Heat should've won 82 games then, huh? makes their choke in the playoffs even more embarrassing. 😳 imagine assembling the avengers and getting whooped by a single German soldier. oof.

[@generull6552]

@@uberneanderthal61 to 19 wins. Make it make sense how that team won 61. Shaq? Fuck outta here.

[@jespacey]

imagine using the "he won a championship with three teams" as a flex, only avocado eating iphone using troglodytes who rely on instagram to live their lives can appreciate such a mentally weak freakish athlete who lacked actual education

[@jordanjenkins1671]

A few years ago I would tell you LeBron is #1 all-time. A year ago, I would tell you he is #2 all-time. Now I question if he's ahead of Magic, Bird, Duncan, Kobe, and Bill Russell. I value how dominant a player was in their era, how impactful they were on winning, their intangibles, and the context behind their winning.

[@Marlowe10100]

He is like number 6 or 7 all time but really I prefer like 20 players more than him.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Finally, you have seen the light! Lol

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@Marlowe10100 He's legit not Top 10. I have Curry ranked over him & Steph is still not quite Top 10. He's legit 11-15. LBJ has to be lower than him, on the basis that GS only had 3 superteams during the KD years. Meanwhile, LBJ has been routinely doing this since 2010 Miami.

[@emojimr4427]

The guy has had 70 trades 70 teammates he picked to win championships!!!!

[@tripledub0evoxgsr]

Bron has never been considered #1 all time ever

[@marcomcdowell8861]

A touch of history. NBA free agency didn't come into existence until 1988. Even then you either had to have been in the league for 7 years or played through two contracts. Prior to that, teams were compensated handsomely if you decided to sign with a team after your contract was completed. Stockton was drafted in 1984, which means he was essentially locked in for quite some time, even with the advent of FA later. Of course subsequent CBAs would change many aspects of free agency, but in a nutshell, players like Stockton were locked under the control of teams for nearly a decade. Generally, by the time of impending free agency, players were established on the team and in the community and weren't making the super contracts that followed decades later. So the probability was that said player was going to stay with their team. It wasn't out of loyalty, it was practical for all involved. Now as the years went by and following CBAs loosened FA restrictions, contracts became more substantial, more and more players moved, example: Shaquille O'Neal in 1996 which caused a stink because the Lakers had scored a megastar again with not much effort. Hell, even tried and trues like Karl Malone and Gary Payton took a ride on the superteam train. Lets not forget that Steve Nash (2x MVP) and Dwight Howard (3X DPOY, multiple rebounding and blocks leader), also opted in to play with Mr. Bryant in LA and of course the pure chaos of the voided CP3 trade, even though not free agency, but still a manipulation by the Lakers, that would've put Paul, Bryant, Gasol and Ron Artest on the court together. Gentlemen like Stockton focus on the recency and not the actions by the league, players union and many star players, that led to future players (and front offices, with league approval) being able to choose their destinations. If folks are going to hate, you need more than being saltiness because some guys decided they wanted to not work in your city.

[@danielbyimira2033]

my guy

[@sladewilson6924]

You're intentionally cherry picking here. The stars that you mention all did that at the end of their careers, not in their prime. LeCon doesn't deserve to be defended but loathed for ruining the NBA.

[@danielbyimira2033]

@@sladewilson6924 but if bron stayed in cleveland you would be the same guy disrespecting him for not winning anything with an organization that has never experienced success before lebron. hes the chosen one for a reason, and thats why he came back and won cleveland a ring. THATS loyalty.

[@sladewilson6924]

@@danielbyimira2033 Wrong, 🤡. Stockton and Malone never won rings either and I don't disrespect them. And you are also a liar, the Cavs had great years before LeCon was there, they just didn't win rings. LMAO!!!!!! NO ONE calls LeCon "the chosen one" because he's a frontrunning coward. He only went back to Cleveland because he could stack the deck there and that ring is fake, awarded to him when the NBA wrongfully suspended Green so that LeCon could win. FAKE ring.

[@BallCDO]

Only two players you named was in their prime and one of them got vetoed cause the league didn't want Kobe to get ring number 6.

[@GojoRamsay888]

LeBron's longevity is a fraud. Played 82 games once. Played 20 years with lesser games played.

[@metzy1245]

Doesn’t that make his longevity stats more impressive if he played less than what people think? Also his most impressive longevity stat imo is never missing a playoff game. You don’t need to play 82 games every to show you have longevity, that’s not what it is, that’s durability.

[@jaymac4448]

​@metzy1245 no cause taking breaks in the middle the grinds gives an advantage to production during the games that are played. That's why towards the end of Tim Duncan's years they were still getting high production.

[@metzy1245]

@@jaymac4448 LeBron rarely ever sat out without reason, his games played every year until recently dealing with injuries has been high and close to 82 games. Him not playing in 7-8 games isn’t a crazy advantage. Mike was out for whole seasons yet his longevity isn’t the same

[@jaymac4448]

@@metzy1245 never sat put without reason? Fake injuries, standing around on the court, or anything else when the deck isn't already stacked. He's not motivated by legit competition. And it seems to have been that way for a long time.

[@ierepierre3093]

​@@metzy1245 His average would be 35 if he played 82 games every season lol

[@onarf]

Funny you said Giannis is the exception of the rule of being loyal after his recent claims, but forgot to mention Jokic that is the same age as Greek Freak and wanna stick with Denver till end of his career. This dude will never be spoken enough

[@sladewilson6924]

Giannis did his job though, delivered a championship. Also, there's nothing wrong w. wanting your team to be serious about winning. Much respect to Jokic though. Its embarrassing how NBA talking heads always seem to want to diminish his accomplishments because he's not a high flying player.

[@Kap_NYC]

@@sladewilson6924Exactly lol

[@BallCDO]

​@@sladewilson6924respect to the Joker!!!!

[@marka1712]

I am half with this and half against it. I’m no lebronze fan but I do respect the fact he plays out the contract he signs and doesn’t demand a trade. That’s the only thing I respect about him outside of his athleticism. My take is make up your mind and play where you want, but make sure it’s where you want to play. Don’t sign a deal and then demand a trade, that’s b move stuff.

[@2tall886]

So the GM can trade you at will, but players taking their fate into their hands is bad.

[@RwandaBob]

i respect dame for at least trying to stay with the blazers his whole career it’s just unfortunate that the people above him have done so little to actually help him win a championship

[@TalkToIgwe]

LeBron didn't start superteams. You can say a star of his caliber switching teams was wrong but he didn't start it😂

[@adrianjohnson1155]

But he did though. Boston's big three were on the downhill part of the mountain after reaching their peaks. Miami's big three didn't peak until they got together.

[@KennethArriola]

Except he was the ONLY face of the NBA who made superteams a norm in the league.

[@TalkToIgwe]

@@adrianjohnson1155 this is why I don't really like the conversation because the "peak" talk comes in but what if the other teams who tried to do it before LeBron won just like the Celtics?

[@TalkToIgwe]

@@KennethArriola yes he was the face and I agree with you but he gets unjustly scrutinized for it. Charles with the rockets? Whatever the Lakers tried to do with Payton, Malone and co because they failed they are given a pass plus the "peak or "prime" conversation I understand LeBron doesn't even help himself in these conversations too but, I think people just wanna rinse him too much and use him as a scapegoat.

[@KennethArriola]

@@TalkToIgwe Charles was past his prime when he joined the Rockets. So were Drexler, Payton and Malone. Prime LeBum jumped teams to join up with prime Wade, prime Bosh, prime Kyrie, prime Love and prime AD: all of whom were the Alpha of their respective teams. It'a really a nonsensical comparison.

[@Sf75178]

He leaves a team that was number one seed 2 years in a row and we get told he had no help

[@PlayboiBreezeTV]

😂 truestory

[@Sir_Kitel]

Where did the teams get after him leaving?

[@Sf75178]

@Sir_Kitel are you actually saying him leaving was the only thing happened? The whole team got number one seed so had help

[@PlayboiBreezeTV]

@@Sir_Kitel He got bounced before each time he left 🤣

[@RyanMrTsunamiBishop]

What kills me is how they talk about how dominant lebron is or how he makes everyone around him better, yet he always needs more help but always has the most help from more significant players than everyone else. And he keeps switching teams. Make it make sense.

[@georgeprchal3924]

He's literally only played for 4 different teams and 3 different franchises.

[@ThatLampTho]

i remember someone saying that if you put an asterisk on the bubble champion then you should put one for all others for various reasons. while true then that ring would definitely have multiple and large asterisks lol

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Truth

[@rickie0]

The main reason why an asterisk would be against the championship is, when just about everyone in sports didn't quite grasp the bogus lockdown and the lack of danger that it posed, players felt it best that the season should have been cancelled. LeBron James vehemently opposed the cancellation and pushed heavily for the bubble, insisting that the players should all be vaccinated for the good of the game, (hence the flak that Kyrie Irving caught for not wanting to take the jab) and it being held in LA. The effort that he as a player put into stacking that Lakers team, making it lopsided when compared to other teams, he knew that was his last chance to ever get another ring, eight teams sixteen games in round robin and having home court advantage, no way was going to be beaten so easily. That particular season was no different from when the NBA consisted of eight teams in the 1960s. We all know and saw what the end result was when the NBA returned to regular programming the following seasons, not making the playoffs, getting swept in the conference finals, some goat......got to be careful not to whisper this too loud or else the "Bron posse" will want to drink my internet blood...lmao

[@metzy1245]

@@rickie0what are you talking about 😂

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

@@rickie0 fun fact, there were two teams that voted against the bubble and wanted to cancel the entire season. Those two teams? The Clippers and the Lakers. You really just lying for reason

[@rickie0]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 you said two team, I said LeBron, what does that tells you? He was the one who was pushing against the teams wish then, evidently the team gave in to his wish, you would find it hard to believe anything against your Bron Bron.

[@yungslic5363]

Can you make a video about when Karl Malone left John Stockton for the Lakers 😂😂😂

[@danielhall427]

Get your info right. Stockton retired, then Malone went to the Lakers.

[@stefanjevtic5080]

It's quite remarkable how hardly anyone ever seems to acknowledge the fact that the Boston Celtics managed to swiftly acquire two superstar players, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Garnett was undoubtedly one of the top two or three power forwards in the NBA at the time, and Ray Allen was the league's premier shooter. In the blink of an eye, the Celtics transformed from being one of the league's weakest teams into legitimate title contenders. Strangely, it's as if their achievement goes unnoticed, with everyone giving credit to the Miami Heat as the pioneers of the superteam concept, where two superstars joined forces and instantly became title contenders. It's almost like these two teams, Boston and Miami, exist in entirely separate basketball universes...

[@jerryumerez]

Yeah dummy legroat GREATEST RECRUITER OF ALL TIME

[@chito4]

You have to understand that it was the first time really that the players themselves colluded and picked a destination where they would join forces. On top of that, it was three players at the PEAK of their careers. Lebron the young “goat”, D Wade arguably 3rd best SG ever, and Bosh a multiple time all star. The Celtics you mention were all guys over 30 years old, as have been most “Superteam” attempts prior to that.

[@jimmulcahey9312]

The difference between the Boston Celtics getting Garnett and Allen and the Heat super team with Leflop is that the Celtics was team driven and the Heat was players chasing rings driven.

[@stefanjevtic5080]

Yup, probably because nobody wants the ring; even the Celtics didn't want it. But what can I say to someone who uses nicknames like 'LeFlop' or similar, as if we're in elementary school...Throwing around nicknames like 'LeFlop' , leBrick etc...is a bit played out, isn't it? Let's rise above the hate and talk ball with a bit more originality, shall we?@@jimmulcahey9312

[@stefanjevtic5080]

@@jimmulcahey9312 So I guess Boston Celtics ring was just an accident...

[@janadogan-qy7ci]

The last time I watched a basketball game was when John Stockton played. Everything has changed so much. I loved the Jazz back then. Wish things could go back.

[@Megatron4Life23]

The NBA is a shadow of what it used to be back in the 80's, 90's and early 2000s.

[@malikalexander9393]

I’ll say this, I don’t fault Lebron for the “Decision” because it was what was best for his career, and his family. He also broke the paradigm that the owners can use up star players, not build around them to contend and throw them away once they’re washed. With that being said, when you inject him the GOAT debate however, that’s a major black mark because his competition didn’t have to do that to win. It’s all about how you look at it

[@johnnymyers20]

If LeBron doesn't make the jump to Miami there wouldn't be no KD in Golden State. LeBron laid out the blueprints for getting easy rings and KD followed suit and it came back and backfired on LeBron affecting his legacy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@trigun442]

I hope more and more and MORE NBA legends, superstars, top 75 players exposes the trash that entered and ruined the NBA. No basketball head or die hard NBA fans should not respect a drama queen.

[@FEDEXLuchs]

Damien does deserve to leave though... he only signed cause they promised to get top tier free agents.. which they got none Harden is definetly a loser lmao

[@wadeallen1046]

The hate for this man is so ridiculous at this point smh

[@sladewilson6924]

Wrong. It is earned. The video didn't even reference his racism, defending China and hypocrisy.

[@manwerama]

@@sladewilson6924 It is well earned. It is not just a case of hating greatness while it's here, crying for it to return after it's gone. When he's finally gone, it will be a great day for the league.

[@generull6552]

@@manweramafuck no. It’ll be a sad day for the league

[@georgeprchal3924]

Until he dies then these same people will pretend they liked him like they did Kobe.

[@sladewilson6924]

@@georgeprchal3924 Wrong and absolutely ridiculous. I never liked that chucker Kobe either.

[@aleksandarstojanovski9193]

the problem is that a lot of people, regular fans and the media too, give lebron a pass for his dickriding other superstars for titles shtick, then turn around and bash KD for example, for the exact same thing.

[@BallCDO]

Kyrie Irving said of you want me gone then im gone. He stood up to LeBron and the media hated that

[@vickipedia9539]

And he later apologized and gave LBJ props

[@uberneanderthal]

Lebron made his decision, and I made mine to stop watching basketball then and there. only came back just this year because Doncic and Jokic piqued my interest (being slavic descent myself). between 'the decision', a billionaire owner stealing a city's franchise because he didn't want to pay for an arena, and some 'questionable' officiating low-lighted by game 6 2002 Lakers-Kings...I'd had just about enough. and judging by the ratings, I wasn't the only one.

[@sladewilson6924]

You are right. Game rigging by the NBA is evil and pathetic. Shaq and Kobe are manufactured champions, just like LeCon. Made me want to quit watching but I love basketball.

[@generull6552]

@@sladewilson6924You are pathetic. Shaq was a punk leaving orlando to la in his prime

[@The-Basketball-Gods]

He left bcs Cleveland refused to build around him, he signed a contract with Miami then came back to Cleveland and delivered what he promised wtf are all u guys on. Imagine thinking 1 ring in Cleveland would make lebrons legacy greater than the 4 he has now 🫵😂

[@robertofranciscor.beltran5588]

To be fair to Dame, he has grined it out with the Blazers. Now, the Blazers has drafted his replacement and now you have a quarterback controversy in the Blazers. So It’s hard to blame Dame for wanting out.

[@kirbyaugustine761]

Once the Mamba retired I knew the league, left in Lebron’s hands, would turn to sh*t. These young guys are prima donnas and are coddled as early as elementary school so the direction the league has gone in is not surprising.

[@johnnyfelipe8260]

John Stockton may not have a ring but he has more respect that Lebron or KD or even Curry, Harden, etc move

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

John Stockton was one of the dirtiest players at the time and anyone who played against him will tell you that

[@johnnyfelipe8260]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 You brought in hard physical play during the 90s which was how the game was played back then. What about Lebrons flopping which is disgusting. Playing and moves outside the game are totally different.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 Like how LeBettis drops a shoulder and plows through his defender? 😆

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

@@johnnyfelipe8260 that's not what I'm arguing, you said John Stockton has more respect but there's plenty of NBA players, guys that ACTUALLY played, that would wholeheartedly disagree with you.

[@johnnyfelipe8260]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 Maybe for his opponents yes but for majority of fans he being loyal to Utah and playing hard to win a ring with the same team are different. Look at Lebron he is always asking for respect. He knows hes antics and what hes doing made more fans lose respect for him

[@jordancordori5935]

You can't blame LeBron, the owners are the one's that wanted the ability to build a championship team within 1-3 years, so they had the rules changed. Now you have players taking advantage of the rule change in their favor.

[@fullmetal1766]

What the hell are you talking about?

[@Kap_NYC]

THIS! It’s win or bust even when the team isn’t talented enough to make the *Conference Finals.*

[@air23zsl]

players like MJ, stockton, all the superstars in old times have very high pride, and their mentality not only drive themselves, teammates but also role models to fans. Drivren from within and fight for what you are looking for. On the other hand, players like lbj, harden, they do not have the pride and set an example of get what they want by any means include cheating. Huge huge difference.

[@mickeylee2624]

Stockton always speaks the truth, never interested in pleasing others for climbing the social(media) ladder. Context matters. Put him on the absolutely loaded Showtime Lakers or Bad Boy Pistons, and he would have won anywhere between 2-5 titles. Instead, he did his thing and became one of the 2 best PG's ever. In contrast, LBJ won ZERO TITLES on his volition as the 2 in Miami and 1 in Cleveland were Player Collusion affronts to the sport, while the Bubble Title was a joke from a competitive standard standpoint as well as being fluky ( both Finals teams were bottom seeds the following season). He set the precedence for KD's 2 joke titles, which therefore means Curry really has 2 legit titles.

[@heirrose1606]

Jordan would have 10 Rings, 2 3 peats & a 4peat, if he joined the Shaq/Kobe Lakers after saying he would only play for Phil since he wouldn't let them lose to the Pistons, which would've been a poetic justice perfect ending to his career. He didn't because he's too competitive and not mentally weak like LeBron. LeBron's true legacy is the Leader of the Boy-Band Generation, aka the mentally weakest generation of superstars. KD did the same thing but a little more of a bitchmove to GS. Kobe did ask for a trade and went on LA radio to talkshit about the Lakers. Vince Carter fought with the Toronto fanbase that worshipped him and asked for a trade. One of the biggest What-ifs in NBA history is what if Carter loved Toronto and his cousin Tracy McGrady enough he stayed and they developed together?

[@metzy1245]

How did LeBron joining the heat show he isn’t competitive. Please tell me how to cavs could have built a good enough team to compete with the top teams in the west, because they were showing to be a poor front office not surrounding LeBron with any real talent. The Heat team that LeBron joined wasn’t an unfair juggernaut that made the league boring like golden state. They were a very good team, but also very much beatable. They needed to have some talent in order to compete with the stacked western conference teams in the thunder, spurs, ect.

[@heirrose1606]

@@metzy1245 1. He QUIT the Cavs. 2. He joined Wade, who atm was Top 2 or 3 with LeBron & Kobe, so he could play the game on Easy Mode. 3. He said they were a "juggernaut" himself with "not 5, not 6, not 7.." Just because he choked and they underachieved doesn't mean they weren't the heavy favorites. 4. He was afraid to post-up Wee-Man JJ Barea in the first Finals, proof he expected Wade to carry him aka not competitive. Nobody knew how beatable they were until LeBron showed how mentally weak he was. 5. He could've joined up & coming pre-MVP D. Rose in Chicago to compete vs Jordan in Jordan's house and players would've wanted to go to Chicago to play with him but he chose to play in Miami with proven winners Wade & Riley. 6. He QUIT AGAIN and left Miami. So that's "not 7" but 6 reasons off the top of my head but if i waste more of my time thinking about it there's probably more. You reach, I teach.

[@heirrose1606]

@@MyGoatFrFr Most people hate when someone calls themselves "King" & The Chosen One before they've even won anything, and then call themselves the GOAT just because he got one for Cleveland. Unearned arrogance was always considered hateable & detestable until kids started being cool with people not even doing the actual work to prove it. "Not 5, not 6, not 7..." He cheats the game by Flopping, using Load Management, being lazy on defense aka In-Game Load Management, stacking his rosters by buying his BFF a sports agency to pimp him players to fill his rosters, including the AD situation telling the Pelicans he will only go to LA. LeBron has QUIT on teams 5 times, including trading almost the entire roster for AD and then filling the roster with Klutch clients. That's mob tactics. Most people hate mobs. Other reasons to hate LeBron include when he became LeBron Shames when he publicly shamed JR for going JR when LeBron could've called a timeout or should've been lined up next to his direct rival KD at the FT line to fight for that rebound instead of JR who beat KD for it. Instead LeBron was standing at halfcourt praying Hill would make the free throws. LeBron throwing himself crying on the floor last season like a toddler for not getting the foul call in Boston is hateable and shameful for a 20 year veteran. If you missed it KZbin it. He's tweeted "Playoff mode" then deleted the tweet after he QUIT on the season. He didn't show up for DWade's Hall of Fame induction like he was too good for it. The True GOAT Jordan showed up for Pippen's because it's the GOAT thing to do. One year LeBron said he went "zero dark 30" on social media but got caught creeping clicking Like on a big booty Instagirl. Space Jam 2 is hateable. Remaking House Party at his house is hateable. There's more to hate about His Arrogance (NOT His Highness. Compare that arrogant BS to Mike who got His Airness) but one of the biggest reasons I hate LeBron and his behavior was when he became LeBron Shames and told his mother to "Sit your ass down!" on a TNT game, publicly shaming his own mom. Remember this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6aZp5uEeMioqMksi=C0-_2-UxZf9H5l1c

[@heirrose1606]

@@MyGoatFrFr He calls himself king and tattooed Chosen 1 on his back so he does it himself when he doesn't have to. Except he does because he needs to stroke his own ego. Cavs title he got Draymond suspended by teabagging him & stopping the game to complain to the refs remember? No foul was called initially. Game 7 he handed the ball inbounds to Kyrie. NOT made a play to pass to Kyrie but instead walked to the corner, stood & watched & prayed Kyrie scored 1-on-1 vs Curry and didn't even go to the hoop in case of a rebound. You can visibly see him hoping in the replay without thinking of rebounding. After tht he didn't even defend Curry and got lucky KLove stayed with Curry and Curry missed. Flopping is CHEATING. Just because others do it doesn't mean he has to. Except he does because he is too scared & insecure that he won't be able to win at the actual game of Basketball he prefers to change the game to Charades for the Refs by acting and performs like a clown begging for them to help him instead. Posershit.

[@heirrose1606]

@@MyGoatFrFr You men the block with almost 2 minutes left after JR slowed down Iggy who had to double-clutch the ball and was on his way down while LeBron also hit the rim with his left hand which could've been called goaltending? That one? Jordan never had a bad Finals. No one is flawless but Jordan was close as anyone has gotten. 24-0, aka Perfect, as a playoff series favorite. That means when he was expected to win he did. Funny you say Golden Boy because Jordan also only God for America and LeBronze the Embarrassment has 2 bronze medals, 2 3rd place finishes so compared directly to LeBron he is the Golden Boy.

[@JIX9ISLER1986]

LeBron James is the ONLY nba HOF player to team up with his OWN DRAFT CLASS (2003) all in their primes in the weaker Conference to ring chase.....and then leave that team to team up with 2 more all star players in their primes.... Imagine Jordan after years of losing to the Celtics and pistons..then decide to call up HIS OWN DRAFT CLASS (1984) to team up with Hakeem and John Stockton ???? that team would win 10 in a row easily Imagine if Kobe after shaq was traded teamed up with HIS OWN DRAFT CLASS (1996) to team up with Iverson and Ray Allen or Steve Nash that team would easily win 5-7 championships...... The truth is...Lebron has some of the most LOWEST VALUE rings of all time and despite ESPN propaganda and brainwashed social media generation kids online.....lebron is not the GOAT let alone number 2 (Kobe, Duncan, Kareem, Bird) are all ahead of him

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

Kobe had the most dominant player of all time as a running mate, Duncan was drafted on a team with David Robinson, Magic had Kareem, etc. They're all great but greatness from one player can't just guarantee you a championship

[@JIX9ISLER1986]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 Lebron has NOT won back to back or any title WITHOUT a 20ppg scorer (all star) Wade 23PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Kyrie 22.3PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Davis 24.6PPG Lebrons 3rd option Kevin love and Chris bosh both averaged 17PPG in the years playing with lebron with Pau alone 3 straight NBA Finals appearances and he averaged 18.7PPG CONCLUSION Lebrons 2nd options(Wade, Irving, Davis) ALL had greater output than Kobes 2nd option (Pau) and lebrons 3rd option(Love) had just about equal output compared to Kobes 2nd option (Pau) Kobe did more with less and if you compare lebrons 8 year run to the finals he averaged 26.5PPG and Kobe as the 2nd option in the 3peat years averaged 25.4PPG So with slower pace of play Hand checking rules still in place Kobe as a 2nd option had similar output/impact as lebrons prime years going to 8 straight finals

[@Dapper_Dean]

Look at it this way. There's the 'Jordan era', where no other great players from other teams could win a ring. There was never a saying called the 'Lebron era'.

[@kollarax4568]

Lebron this upcoming season, will have played 13 years with an all star teammate in a row. Jordan played 13 years with the bulls. Jordan still won more and that fact is crazy. Not even including his early Cavs years where Mo Williams and Zyldrunas had all star selections

[@howdydoo9148]

Y’all forget Kobe tried to leave the Lakers multiple times

[@digiammar3969]

Uhhhh but he didn't??

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

Forreal, the revisionist history is actually insane

[@midnightlumina7]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 It's only revisionist if he actually went through with it.

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

@@midnightlumina7 it's revisionist cuz y'all act like it never happened

[@midnightlumina7]

@@infinitymixtapes9562 He never went through it, so it didn't happen. No matter how you bend it, it won't be a fact.

[@augustopoliche8908]

It's just like when Mayweather changed boxing for bad making everybody believe having 0 defeats is the most important thing in a career. Durant may be the worst case but it was Bron who paved the way for all the stars to abandon teams. If the best of them can do it where's the shame for the rest

[@BallCDO]

Rocky has 0 losses and he was before Mayweather

[@larrybaker5532]

Barkley is probably the first to chase a ring. He just did it a different way.

[@zayslife1186]

Y'all are staring to get ridiculous with these arguments against lebron lol

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

I have never respected superstars teaming up. It's why I have no respect for LeBron, KD, Steph, AD and Harden for leaving or recruiting superstars. I know Steph never left but he still recruited KD. I know people bring up Barkley joining the Rockets with Hakeem and Clyde and later Pippen. But there difference was they were all old and exiting their prime. Clyde and Barkley were on the downhill after 95 and Hakeem was on the downhill after 97. Pippen was on the downhill after 98. When Barkley joined, he was 33, Hakeem was 33, and Clyde was 34. Pippen was 33 when he joined. So not a super team like LeBron joining the Heat with a 28 year old Wade and 26 year old Bosh and LeBron being 25 and KD joining the 73 win Warriors.

[@Tmangman1]

You gonna keep that same energy for the bulls recruiting Dennis Rodman then? According to your logic, you shouldn't have respect for Jordan if that was enough to lose it for Curry.

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

@@Tmangman1 Rodman was thought of as a team cancer in San Antonio. There is a difference. Rodman would have been out of the league if he didn't go to the Bulls. Rodman was basically out of the league after the Bulls because of his short stints with the Lakers and Mavericks.

[@Tmangman1]

@@vineelkesavarapu5736 I just think it's a bizarre take to hate on Curry just because another star joined his team. It's not like he left, it's not like he couldn't win without him, and it wouldn't have worked if he wasn't willing to give him the room he needed to make KD part of the team. We've already seen what happens when KD plays on a super team where people aren't willing to make sacrifices.

[@vineelkesavarapu5736]

@@Tmangman1 Steph still recruited him after losing the Finals. If you want to be one of the best, you beat the best not join them or ask them to join you. Steph had a 73 win season and were 1 win away from back to back championships. It's not like his team wasn't good enough to win. It's like Michael asking Barkley to team up with him to beat the Pistons. Duncan asking Iverson to team up with him to beat the Lakers. Bird asking Isiah to team up with him after to beat the Lakers.

[@sokit2em]

@@Tmangman1Rodman was 34 when he joined the Bulls lmao. False equivalence

[@NorthElevation]

I totally agree with everything said in this video. And that’s why I completely dismiss LeBron fans who constantly make excuses that he doesn’t have help or that he has to do everything on the court. That’s BS in my opinion, because he’s the one playing general manager. He’s the one putting these teams together. These are the players that he chooses. He does not have to do everything. He’s just out there padding his stats. I know I’m gonna catch some heat for saying this. But I blame a lot of this on Kobe. Him winning 5 championships changed the entire dynamics of the NBA. Because of that LeBron was hell bent on winning some of his own. And will do anything to do it.

[@HYPER4MANCE]

It's a personal choice. Lebron made the decision to leave Cleveland for Miami and won championships. It worked out for him. I see it as John Stockon being sour for not winning a champship.

[@PatriotD00d]

I loved Stockton growing up, but you need to understand that times change. You might not like player empowermeant but Ownership doesn't really care about its players in the majority of cases. Do you think Utah would have kepts Stockton if he was only playing 30 games a year? Also, like it or not, Lebron moved and won championships wherever he went. Again, want to repeat, I loved the jazz growing up and not a stock diss. Also about the rodman take: man this is just off. he was one of the games best defenders and also EASILY the leagues best rebounder. He was a massive asset. All teams want to be better and want better players to work with.

[@danielbyimira2033]

someone thats not blinded by bias.

[@sladewilson6924]

Name one player that only plays 30 games a year. LeCon is a front running coward and always has beemn. As a kid in Akron his favorite teams were the Chicago Bulls, New York Yankees and Dallas Cowboys. He has zero loyalty or competitive spirit. He'd rather stack the deck than make his team better. As for Rodman, he was radioactive at that time. No one wanted him. Anyone could've traded for him but didn't. The Bulls gave up a backup center for him. That should say it all. Rodman and MJ didn't like each other but they respected each other because they both knew that the other one would do whatever it took to win. In San Antonio Rodman was taking his shoes off between plays just to be difficult. His troubled life and childhood really messed w. his head.

[@danielbyimira2033]

@@sladewilson6924 zion has literally played 29 games this past season 🤣. lebron throughout his entire career legitemately stacked the deck once and that was in miami, even still miami doesnt win two rings without bron even if they just had wade and bosh. Outside of that instance your basically implying that lebron aint allowed to have good teammates, cause how else is anyone meant to win?

[@sladewilson6924]

@@danielbyimira2033 Wrong, nice try though. Wrong again. LeCon did it in LA and Cleveland too. Wrong again and you're intentionally acting stupid just to d**kride LeCon. People hate LeCon because he ruined the NBA by forming ghey "superteams". None of that was organic and he freely admitted that he recruited players. The CHeat had three first team all NBA players and you stupidly whine "He's not supposed to have good teammates"? Just admit that you have ghey love for him already.

[@demintoscott5779]

MJ23 BOSS GOAT 🐐 is still better than your favorite player MJ23 BOSS GOAT

[@PIP...33]

MY FAV IS BIRD 6-0 VS MJ THEN CHAMBERLAIN 50 PPG 25 RPG 12 BPG. WHOS JORDAN ?

[@jerseykillabee]

Will always enjoy watching these videos. Man. Always love the music in the background too. That just sets the video off

[@richerichism]

Lebron the type to use a gameshark and act like he got the high score naturally. His fans are probably the same.

[@MysticMungusSlungus]

Imagine if Karl Malone left the Jazz, and Gary Payton left the Sonics, to both join the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.

[@sakdavid]

They were 40 years old at that point, making a last ditch effort to get a ring

[@Marlowe10100]

When they were 40 years old?

[@melvinhhcp3615]

False parallel. Nice try buddy.

[@MysticMungusSlungus]

@@melvinhhcp3615 >Has a "Mamba Mentality" playlist >Replies on YT like a dbag Yep, everything checks out.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@MysticMungusSlungusNice critique coming from a shithead named "MysticMungusSlungus". Lmao foh Fungus

[@F_N_Inquisitor]

We should be fair. It didn't start with Lebron and the Heat... It started with the 07-08 Celtics. Paul Pierce was already there, but picking up the one of the best two-way superstars in the league with Garnett, and the (at the time) best 3-pt shooter of all time with Ray Allen.

[@Jesse-zc5pg]

I agree, but I think what people are saying usually is that the Big 3 was past their (peak) prime and they weren't free agents. I think it was KG who didn't want to go the Celtics until they added Ray Allen. And for LBJ leaving Cle, he played for years there and the best player was Mo Williams or Big Z. Hughes was a bust.

[@LeonYuL]

Celtics were in their twilight years, Bron Wade Bosh all in prime

[@irvgotto80]

But he never stopped, went to the cavs and forced them to trade away their young talent and assets and did the same with the lakers

[@hnguyen5o8]

No we shouldn't. This is LeBron James here, not a Jason kidd, scottie pippen type. LeBron pussed out, from chosen king to rigging king, while starting a narrative that LeBron James is just another all-star so the celtics started it. Shallop!

[@paranoia_xo]

Old, past their prime players. Lebron and Wade were the TWO best players in the conference and brought along side another top 10 player in the conference completely breaking the balance in an already DOGSHIT eastern conference. Lebron couldn't get it done and he KNEW that. Soft like baby shit.

[@coolbananas1803]

When you learn who LBJ serves/worships it will make sense why he does what he does and gets away with it, too.

[@calebadamu]

I'm getting so tired of this argument, THE CELTICS STARTED IT WITH RAY AND KG!!! The heat were an answer to that! Also yall really expected lebron to live in OHIO his whole life???? He's brought this up multiple times, that he lived in ohio the first 26 years of his life and wanted to experience new things.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Not a legit excuse

[@Timquan.]

Don't waste ur breath most of the people that argue this stupid ass point would have rather seen Bron flounder and fail in Cleveland due to the horrible management so they could turn around and say, "See, the kid is overrated, he can't compare to Kobe or MJ." 20 years and 3 teams is very respectable considering he got each team at least 1 championship. Also, people are blatantly ignoring how much more stacked Lebron's era of play was to the 90s and early 2000. Can't fault a player for putting themselves in a position to compete if their teams management fails at that endeavor. He gave that Cleveland team many chances to straighten out and they didn't. And in terms of the Celtics Even Kobe called them a super team and dating before that celtics superteam was the failed Lakers superteam, so all this trying to make LeBron the originator of superteams is just wrong and disingenuous.

[@MatheusTurossi]

Ok, and? The point still valid.

[@robesch88]

They were old, over 30. The only one of "the big 3" that made the top 10 in mvp voting the 3 years before getting together was kg in 2006 (he was 9th tied with Billups). Wade and Lebron were all nba FIRST team in 2009 and 2010. They were top 3 in mvp voting in 2009. They were 26 and 27 yo. And Bosh made more all star games than Ray Allen and was 27. It is NOT comparable. It would have been like Duncan, Kobe and Billups teaming up in 2004.

[@Zamppa86]

The PP, KG and Allen Celtics were 'old-ish', everyone over 30 years old. Also that team was created via trades and not free agency like the Heat. Also everyone on the Heat was on their primes when that team was created.

[@Kendricktimes2]

Let’s be honest if Lebron ain’t leave Cleveland in 2010 his legacy would be way worse then it is now

[@ericcrane4871]

It’s difficult to argue whether James was ever the best player for a 5-year stretch in the NBA. Having him as the GOAT or even 2 is disrespectful to a shload of ballers. Pick your player: Magic or LeBron? Bird or LeBron? Kobe or LeBron? I have Duncan and Olajuwon over LeBron so that makes him, in my tier, 8th. He’s behind MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Olajuwon and Kobe.

[@averyce2]

All comments were valid. But the best part of the video was seeing all of those clips of Lebron travelling!!

[@cloudwalker9572]

To be fair I don't dislike the decision, cavs were crap. I don't condone the quit during the game stuff but when a team is given like 7 years to build around you and can show is what the cavs are, well let's say many greats never got a deserved ring. What I really dislike is bailing out of Miami. It's a franchise with a proven winning culture could have waited a year or two and Miami would have been back instead he made sure Cleveland was stacked and went back there.

[@georgeprchal3924]

Stacked? They won like 20-something games before he returned and has 27-19 in that game 7.

[@jerrylattimore9232]

THOSE PLAYERS OF THE JORDAN ERA, 2000 PLAYERS, KOBE, STOCKTON, DUNCAN, THE GERMAN GUY. THOSE MEN HAD HONOR & PRIDE & CHARACTER & ETHICS. SOMETHING TODAY'S PLAYERS DON'T HAVE. THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING NOW WAS UNHEARD OF BACK THEN. IF THEY COULDN'T WIN FAIRLY, THEY WENT OUT ON THEIR SHIELD, HEADS HELD HIGH KNOWING THEY GAVE THEIR ALL. CAN'T HELP BUT RESPECT THAT. THEY WERE MEN OF HONOR & DECENCY.

[@iconic6718]

As a fan who grew up watching basketball since the early 90s, I would say that KD going to Warriors is far worse than LBJ's decision.

[@alaistairhamilton8838]

Jerry Krause even said that he never had Michael Jordan come to him with demands to trade in certain players. The closest he came to that was when he approached Phil Jackson to ask about the possibility of trade for Dennis Rodman, but he respected the chain of authority. Lebron James does not, and has let his ego get way out of control, and interferes in responsibilities that belong under the jurisdiction of the general manager. This is why he will never be better than Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Hakeem Olajuwon as far as I am concerned.

[@Sparky6string]

Anyone that claims to hate Stockton really hates themselves.

[@Kings0424]

John Stockton is absolutely 100% correct. Even though he never won a championship himself, he never complained, he asked for help and never quit on his team, just like Jordan, Bird, Magic, Payton, Barkley, any players that you can name in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Those guys wanted to complete and wanted to beat each other to go win a championship. LeBron James never did that. Everytime when things gets tough, LeBron James runs away and always trying to build a superteam. LeBron ruined the NBA when he created a superteam in Miami in 2010. This is why I don't blame Kevin Durant joining the Warriors. I mean LeBron James always tried to create superteams while everyone else tried to go through each other, especially in the playoffs in order to go win a championship. Besides Draymond Green was the one that went to go visit KD while KD was on vacation and Draymond cried and begged KD to come to Golden State so yeah I don't blame him. I guarantee you if Draymond Green didn't go and beg KD to join Golden State, I 100% believe that LeBron James would've done everything in his power to make KD join Cleveland with him and Kyrie Irving

[@jph794]

To Rodman topic we have to add and repeat that he has a free agent, and that nobody, NOBODY would have been foolish enough to hire Rodman. It was a HUGE RISK signing him. That fact that it worked is another story.

[@2008mastif]

I loved it when the Lakers were swept by Denver. Lebron was so classless to the point of talking about possibly retiring rather than give Denver their flowers. He's a thin skinned as they come. The master at passive aggressiveness and deflection. It will be a great day once he retires. Hopefully, he doesn't get into broadcasting either. Because once again he'll try to make the narrative about him

[@user-sf5hc4ro1e]

Even Jordan wasn't shit without team-mates

[@donavonhoward114]

It wasn't the "player empowerment era", it was the "hold my team hostage era". I sign on the dotted line, and then turn around and demand trades of teammates, or myself, and threaten to sit out games while still being guaranteed money from my contract. That's not business, that's exploitation, and extortion.

[@doctajay376]

To say that super teams in the off season started with Lebron is simply not true. Didn't the Rockets form a trio of Hakeem, Charles and Pippen? What about the Celtics in 2008? All of those attempts were prior to Lebron going to Miami.

[@MrEOM41]

Ahh the Lesystem includes Lebron the player, LeHeadcoach and LeGM 😏

[@keithroute8906]

The Celtics did it with the big three. Lebron didn’t think he could win a championship in Cleveland so he went to Miami to form a different big three. The Yankees did it in baseball, football does it all the time. Lebron never gets much love, the only thing I didn’t like about his game was flopping, begging and crying for calls and hot dogging. Greatest scorer of all time and one of the greatest players. He never got in trouble and is a good role model. History will look at him favorably or more appreciative than he is looked at today.

[@seanm.1813]

I say the fact that both the Miami Heat and the Cavaliers ended up with rings by LeBron’s hand means he justified the decision. The ironic thing is, I don’t know if Cleveland would’ve ever got a title, if LeBron never made the decision.