NCSoft Delivered Quick... Big W's

[@KanonXO]

My previous video going over the "State of Throne" kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWLHnIujeJdomJYsi=HU7GAWyyfhK7uC4e | Streaming Throne @ twitch.tv/kanonxo

[@Infernius]

If they have removed the camera smoothing it'll be a massive win. It felt so bloody bad!

[@dopeness5848]

It bothered me alot as well sounds like it's fixed 🎉🎉

[@1991sub]

Previously video: GAME IS DOOMED This video: GAME IS SAVED

[@JEROBI37]

These videos make me want to check out the game less

[@FXooE]

really .. shit

[@1991sub]

@@JEROBI37 You should actuaclly, that way you can decide for yourself if the game is good or not it's f2p at the end of the day

[@Markcrumb]

​@JEROBI37 these videos are just trying to make money off throne and liberty hype. Most of what they put out is garbage.

[@thegray0]

game is saved we have bikini skins

[@blacklord3212]

still we need more changes , runes to drop from all around the world , you don't want people only doing dungeons 24/7 and the resonance system and traits system improvements , but overall I am so happy they are listening and doing things players want , there is still more to be done , and keep it up kanon you are the only streamer who has the courage to give feedback although it is harsh , all others are always afraid to lose sponsor or even speak so they just shut up like rats , this is why I only respect you and like your content , thank you

[@theblackishboy1105]

I think this game still has a lot of issues and the bosses need work imo BUT the fact that the devs are so fast to add content AND TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY makes the game a million times better than most out there because you know you're being heard and can actually affect what the future of the game is

[@BogDustForBreakfast]

I feel they are trying to be the next best mmo . Although the goal posts are huge to fill . It’s great they are changing and making the game better. Good to see

[@Boozsted]

A f2p mmo will never do it tho.

[@BogDustForBreakfast]

@@Boozsted “never” I’d say is the wrong word

[@ragingflare123]

Ashes of Creation is the next best MMO. T&L looks pretty cope

[@BogDustForBreakfast]

@@ragingflare123 ashes of creation like star citizen has had many more years of development compared to T&L . I believe all development teams aim to be the next best thing

[@barncagkanyldrm4618]

with that combat I don't think thats possible

[@Xhotic]

Im going to copy something i saw on the Reddit for T&L the other day, and tell me how you feel about it cause it seems that it would actually be a great idea for them in the near future. I think Throne and Liberty looks great, and I've been very excited for it alongside my friends, however I feel one thing missing from the game that I really hope they introduce soon is a actual "Class" or "Specialization" system, maybe around level 10 or 20 so Players who already started, of course wouldn't have to restart, only accept a quest or something given to them on logging in after the update.... They could simply introduce it on top of the Weapons something like Ashes of Creation is doing, and I just feel it would add a lot to the progression and combat side of the game, as the ideas they can do for classes are much like the ones we see in games such as Ashes of Creation/WoW or Lost Ark and BDO for example, without killing the idea of a "unique weapon" system, as they could just allow any "class" to play with MOST weapons if not a big deal, then any class could use all Weapons, however maybe only limit it to certain classes so if they ever in the future want to make additional Weapon Types that certain classes can only choose from/use.... Which btw i expect them to add new Weapons or something, as its.... kinda the only "Classes" in the game for them to add onto or release lol, unless they in fact are eventually going to add a "Specialization" or "Class" system in the future of the game, which I very much hope for along with others. (i.e a Mage could use a 2H sword or Daggers/Swords, making them a Melee-Spellcasting/Buffing Mage, or a Shield/Sword Using tank-like Mage or Priest (aka turning into a Paladin for example if Priest) which is a very cool concept btw and I wish a MMO would do it before Ashes of Creation does, which probably releases in 2030 lmao, as they are doing Classes PLUS Weapon skill system which I think is indepth and needed in a MMO of todays standards, we've seen MMOs try Weapons as Classes and just sorta die off overtime as weapons being introduced are 10x less exciting then a brand new "Class" with a talent/skill tree to explore...*cough* New World) What do you all think? Im personally very hyped for the game and the changes they are making for Global but just think they could forsure do a bit more on the "vertical" and "horizontal" progression sides of things alongside a "Classes/Specialization/Archetype" system...

[@Clay44444]

Big W’s in the chat😂 i think if kanon and other creators didn’t speak up about these issues like the rune system they wouldn’t do a thing. Ur doing gods work

[@지나가는롤유저2]

Nice

[@true.is.around]

enchanting++ on weapons giving a glow? :))

[@AomoriWp]

can we get a video with tab targeting settings? everything just feels like wrong in the tab targeting section

[@IBodyBagz]

For those complaining about the auction house using premium currency, please remember that the auction house prices and stock are entirely controlled by the player. Ncsoft isnt gating prices or trying to make a quick buck there. The second (and imo the most import) thing is, you can grind and sell your drops on the market for lucent right? You can then turn around and purchase things from the store using that premium currency that you didnt pay a red cent for. (Think Warframe’s platinum trading if you’ve played it. T&L is far from perfect, but actually look at the systems that they are implementing before you start parroting on the internet trying to shout down the game. It’s absurd. We could be here forever talking about different systems amd features, but i hear about the auction house the most which is why i brought it up

[@shblade5984]

It is P2W anyway.

[@aristidesrodriguez85]

I think you have a point, though it won't stop the trolls and closed-minded folks. Just know that ur opinions/feelings are shared and ur not alone. Players have always had the power in their hands. The majority just never unite unless there is an undeniable blasphemy that can't be ignored. When the truth of it is, there isn't such a thing as ignoring the small things because every problem, big or small, has an origin, and sooner or later, it can become unavoidable. Being united is the fear of those who would underestimate us when we are divided. (Idc who agrees or doesn't. These are my beliefs)

[@billandrewperalta2749]

Copium.. its still pay2win.. this game will be dead in a month

[@aristidesrodriguez85]

@billandrewperalta2749 u might be right, but at least some of us can appreciate what we have when we have it. If ur never satisfied or at least trying to be realistic, you'll never understand how to dream or even enjoy it along the way. Again, you may very well be right, but it's not like you're doing anything to help.

[@excoupe]

Copium is so hard with this one lmao. 1) Ncsoft IS trying to make a quick buck, it doesn't matter if the prices for items are controlled with Lucent. Lucent's price is controlled by Ncsoft to begin with. 2) Giving Warframe's trading as an example is dumb. You can trade an item WITHOUT platinum too. Can you do that in TnL? Don't think so. You either keep this delusion that the AH is not p2w or realize soon (hopefully) every f2p game is p2w one way or the other.

[@DamienOP]

I hope there will be an improvement for co-op dungeons, they don't want you in the dungeon without watching a video and memorizing (it feels like a student in university, like studying), if you are a new player, the mechanics will waste you and people have no tolerance and the items dropped from there are mandatory for you. (It's no fun for the new player to be like this. at least that's what I think. )

[@lelouch2259]

Random is hard life. You dont know mech insta kick. You need to join guild and ask guild members. Though KZbin watching gives a rough idea what next mech will be

[@miso-mc3uq]

I think you just want easy mode easy mode (don't exist wipe mech , low boss atk dmg , low hp boss, very easy mech)

[@OverMorda]

Nice. I'm still suprised how good they react for players feedback. That W for sure

[@emanueledimatteo5059]

Thank you Kanon, glad to see that NCSOSFT listen the community.

[@Dxr_x]

@Kanon are u going to play in this server Korean or once its open on Europe you will play there.

[@hectorcolunga9436]

Loving your informative videos man! Can't wait to play in September. 🙌

[@TacticoolNinja]

Great to see them respond quickly and make some changes based on feedback. However the system is still really bad.

[@JurgitasDeksnys]

Hey Kanon! Will you make another tier list video after the skill expression changes before the release?

[@xKingsfall]

I remember how you spit in the CEO's face at the conference. Yesterday I met NCSoft boss in ramen shop, asked for changes and today such news. What a nice guy!

[@Dokuji]

He didn't "spit in CEO's face". He was politely suggesting the game needed some changes before a western release.

[@Zenda_Nior]

He asked some simple questions. WTF?

[@xKingsfall]

@@Dokuji Dude, it was just a joke. Don't take it seriously.

[@Dokuji]

@xKingsfall lol. I'm not sure how it's supposed to be a joke, its just wrong. But I'm doing fine. Did you really meet the guy at a Ramen shop? That's pretty cool 😎

[@davidchurr9839]

Do they have a day for patch notes released? could wait until then and see what it is. Good video and straight to the point :)

[@DanielFilipe.]

Now one thing I'd like them to do. Remove forced TAA! Let it have FXAA or something else... It makes the game look blurry, specially when you are moving around.

[@SGSAMII]

am surprised Kanon did not talk about the INSANE PVP changes on death timer

[@FrostSheep]

Cant wait to check this out when it comes to the west. I missed playing the beta

[@MakoRuu]

They keep trying to sneak in more and more fucking grind and pay to win systems while no one is looking.

[@johnmaco]

Isn't this video exactly the opposite of that? It explains how they reduced the pressure on f2p players by those systems they implemented.

[@Sagnamenn]

HUGE W so excited for patch on Hyperboost!

[@gejsalociN]

Been waiting for this game for 10+ years. As an old Lineage 2 player the wait was too long i hope they dont fk up this game with the p2w because you dont need a p2w to be successful.

[@Wuro-z2l]

They could add option for hiding costumes.

[@justinpatrick9249]

ok but what about adding rewards to events that your where talking about?

[@AmaiaCrystal]

fuckkk, now I'm going to have to play the game... NCsoft why are you being such a W company all of a sudden

[@aaMontee]

It would be awesome if you made a guide on the auction house 🙏

[@shadowzera9960]

And about freeze screen when kill someone?

[@MiraTerni80]

I hope devs keep winning like this tbh :D

[@northfox_666]

But wait.. havent they recently announced that the real money shop will be different in the west? I dont understand how p2w still can have such a big gap then.

[@JU0DAS]

Were those costumes that don't really fit the fantasy-medieval setting always there or are these bikinis the first ones?

[@NeytozINF]

Yeah I hate costumes that doesn't fit. Hope we can disable them in settings. Default armor skins look very good in this game, none of oversexualized crap.

[@gobira26]

its a korean mmorpg

[@LostArkLover]

go play wow xdd

[@De2t3ny]

we got bikinis because virgins dominate the gaming market

[@AroweRiv]

TBH i won't buy this kind of costume buy why don't let everyone buy whatever they want ?

[@LudoAntheunissens-xi8kc]

Nice job again love it thx for all 👍🏼

[@bests1989]

Nice updates of fixes, thanks. I was wondering if there is any plan to fix how the action mode works since, honestly, it's obvious they didn't plan it and tried to build it on a classic paleolithic system. What triggers me is that when you're fighting multiple targets and you're doing your rotation, having the crosshair on an opponent doesn't trigger the skill on it but it always want to hit the target where you started the light attack (and eventually it moved out of range). So you need to manually move the light attack to the other enemy and then the skill will go there. That sounds like overcomplicating a system that could have been smarter. Also the target system is totally dumb. If you're using a healing skill, you need to use a different combination of commands to target an ally instead of an enemy and then you need to add another combination to target yourself. Then if you mistakenly click an ally and try to attack an enemy close to him, it tells you can't do that (of course). The smart way would be to intelligently chose the closest enemy or ally to the crosshair depending on the skill effect, instead to lock the target every time (also because there is another target lock command too, so there's no point in locking a target twice), so if I'm using an offensive skill, the closest enemy to the crosshair will be the target, if I'm using a healing/defensive skill instead, the closest ally will be targetted. If instead I willingly lock the target, then skills would try to go there regardless of the camera. That would make the gameplay truly Action, not like the current fake. I tried the western open beta and there are a lot of nice features that I appreciated, but also a lot of things that in my opinion needs to be addressed and this if the most important for me. Do you have any info about that? What's your opinion on the subject? Any chance this can be delivered as a suggestion to NC? Sorry for the long comment.

[@lelouch2259]

Have you checked settings? There is target priority in settings. Healing is bit touch ya in action combat. I need to press ctrl+1 to select no. 1 ally. Ctrl+2 to select no. 2 ally to heal and so on

[@bests1989]

@@lelouch2259 Hi, I haven't find anything like that, but it might be that I missed it. I'll need to try to look again when global releases. Other friends have find that system annoying too. Still if I need to change key combination for healing, it means that it doesn't understand the scope of the skill automatically and I need to specifically tell the game that I want to target an ally (if it's healing, of course will be an ally). I still think that controls can be managed a bit smarter, but let's see how everything heads up after the release. My opinion on the game is that it deserves a try, and then I'll see in the long term.

[@Schrumpel]

thanks god, i complained enough. F camera smoothing finally gone

[@dracul1838]

My question is why the devs dont deliver this Feature in the first place? without a Patch needed?they are Not stupid And because they Change Here a little Thing a make 1 step in the right direction,doesnt mean they could 3 in the wrong before Release,i Hope really Not,but actions speak loudwr then words

[@dan1991woopwoop]

I think NCSoft are making a big mistake by waiting til mid september to release this game globally. The school holidays will be over so kids are back at school. And september to december is STACKED with new games. There are so many gamers with nothing to play atm who would happily try out a new free to play game. But come september their attention will be on other things

[@KYBERMOSH]

so we should get the hammers we used back since the major changes

[@simons6138]

Can we please jump forward i really cant wait. After two fun years of lost ark i am so ready to play this.

[@Rated_xv]

Huge W's but is that F2P GAP with all the new systems still significant as said in the previous video?

[@Inovalis]

its always going to take more time as f2p to reach paying player power level. If you want to play 100% free, that will always be the case. You could treat it as any other game you'd buy full price and spend that amount of it. Getting the battle pass alone makes your progression significantly easier.

[@rankyb8088]

my advise is don't go completely free unlesss you have no job or a psychopath. how can you expect them to deliver a quality mmo, for free?

[@Rated_xv]

@@rankyb8088 I mean yes I agree but they can do it without being predatory like Riot games but yet again the game has to be fun to play either way...

[@JEROBI37]

@@Rated_xvriot prices for skins is definitely scummy, but it’s not player power it’s just cosmetics

[@Rated_xv]

@@nomanaplshelp Doesnt have to be a f2p MMO to show that they can push monetization on a f2p game without clear advantages. cmon now

[@stephendeer7993]

If the game would come to console would really help breath life

[@maosachez27]

They need to fix the UI customization on console or PC playing with controller

[@Deezzer1212]

Is all this comimg to the global.launch day 1

[@Dkohltje]

This is sick now they need to put transfers in but it will cost special coins 1 transfer vost 10 euros En elite vert hard to get items like people will think wtf dude how did you get it

[@ArtyaEva]

Awesome, just watched previous video. GGs

[@CalgarGTX]

10% rune slot rate and 3.33% for the good traits you want is still a big L. It seems like the old tried and true tactics of 'introduce 3 bad things, people scream, roll back 1 of the 3, people rejoice and forgot about the other 2" And I know I'm in the minority on this, but fkin bikinis in MMOs... I'm so tired of the immersion breaking outfits like these. People keep wanting more of them and it's like they don't know 'youthorn' and X rated games exist. I just want a coherent world design with heroes/warriors that look the part and not like street corner workers. Sure they may bring in money but it's also a huge turnoff for some long term potential players.

[@rankyb8088]

they whatched your video bro. take a bow.

[@hby7768]

Im going full Luffy or Zoro with those bikini costume and dyes

[@joaovitormenezes2942]

hey @Kanon make a video asking them to develop new melee weapons like hammer, greataxes etc lol

[@true.is.around]

when soul shots will be added :)) when sound of critical strike will be atleast near sound in L2...:)) i like NCSOFT liesen players-finally- and they changing they new game :))

[@NeytozINF]

game already has soul shots :) but unfortunetly without sound and glow effect in each attack

[@MotoPolus]

@@NeytozINFthere is actually a glow effect with quality ones. No sound though

[@JebesNikove]

Not sure about this game anymore, the introduction of more p2w and rng is not fun. Ye they adjust stuff later, but still you can see they want to go the classic nc soft route but are going more slowly.

[@shinobuu__]

W NCSOFT.

[@DEEV1991]

NCsoft has gem they better not fuck it up.

[@eclairfarron5253]

If it failed in korea then 100% it will fail in global such a shame for a lovely looking game

[@marcuslucian763]

Global when?

[@drumroll2716]

17th September. Without pre purchase if I remember correctly

[@지나가는롤유저2]

nice

[@SiopeR]

Game is doing so bad in korea that they didn't even showed it on recent investors call. Western playerbase is their last chance to not let it sink but well... it's NCSoft game so yeah gg ;D

[@baska-]

The fact that the only way for players to trade is through a premium currency Auction House but that's not enough P2W for NCSoft is very telling of what's to come, unfortunately.

[@JohannSiemens85]

It's a P2W game and as somebody who is playing BDO since Beta, i can tell you that they are going to milk the players dry. Everything which they implement will have some sort of gamble mechanics to it, so you basically get more and more systems, which raises the need to swipe, which will left F2P players more and more behind, while even P2W people will have to grind more and more shit, which will end in people logging in for 4h of daily chores and then quit.

[@baska-]

@@JohannSiemens85 and, yet, somehow, companies still think it's worth developing games like that. I'm sure T&L will be quasi-dead in 12 months, I just wish these companies were less greedy.

[@JDawggful]

I love modern outfits in games, like how BDO has been dropping lately. I hope TL devs take that route.

[@uboiyy1031]

Same

[@IsvRada]

Everything ok.. but really, those skins are cool? I would never put one of those on my character in a fantasy theme MMO. This is not second life.

[@HadleyMarshall]

Only the top 1% of whales will stick around. It’ll die like Bless unleashed did 😔

[@seyumaiayami3536]

thurd

[@schuviarz8614]

ayo

[@CaliCG89]

I really dont get why people like those crappy costumes, they literally has nothing to do with the fantasy medieval setting, they look terrible. Looks more like the Sims game

[@JohnnyGemini]

Those weapons and costume skin are trash you trippin

[@kouvue1094]

As much as I like this game. It is not solo or casual player friendly. Everything is group and guild related.

[@luigim2209]

im playing solo wym

[@lastdayer101]

But that's a good thing. If groups are needed, people make groups. When people don't need to group, its impossible to find a group.

[@GustavoDorgaMantuan]

not casual I could agree. But why bro is looking for a solo mmo?

[@kouvue1094]

@@GustavoDorgaMantuan you know what I mean by solo. Stop playing lol.

[@luigim2209]

@@kouvue1094 go play elden ring ☠️ bloodborne ☠️☠️ or what ever solo game exist lmao is like you want to go to a concert but you dont want to see people there

[@yousini]

trash costumes compared to first ascendant

[@SnowCookiez]

Boo 2nd

[@kouvue1094]

NC need to stop playing around and come out Aion 2.

[@Anthony3187]

This game reminds me of Aion 2 though.. just no abyss

[@kvue5209]

@Anthony3187 I agree, the closest thing to Aion.

[@mohsensaafaie4019]

The combat system of the game should improve and stop being dry The story of the game should be formed and the player should communicate with the game world I still don't know why I kill a bunch of orcs or wolves! And where did these mobs come from and what is their background! What do cities have to do with the story? Worldbosses have no story background! Dungeons do not have a background story! Weapons should be increased! Races should be added pve content should be increased, I officially have nothing to do but pvp in the game! The mounting system must be changed! I want a real mount! I am not a droid! The current mount system can be used for a specific weapon (example: albion online new staff weapon)

[@madebygleatch]

no

[@Romik..]

go play wow

[@mohsensaafaie4019]

@@Romik.. You don't know the meaning of an mmo game That's why MMO companies are thinking of making trash MMO to empty the pockets of players like you.

[@mohsensaafaie4019]

@@madebygleatch yes

[@sallee132]

No to all of this. This is not your typical themeparak MMO. Go play WOW.

[@ADesertVoice]

Sorry man but this isn't enough. At this point, NCSOFT needs to OVERHAUL their gear upgrade system period. They need to switch it out to be more like a stat based system, like in Guild Wars 2 but make it even more UNIQUE like in ARPGs. THIS will revitalize the game. ALSO, they need to put back in the different races found in the Lineage series. Elves, Dwarves and Orcs. These races need to be PLAYABLE and have their own starting areas. AND lastly, they need to REMOVE the stupid transformation system and opt for MOUNTS. Whoever thought up the stupid changing into animals need to be FIRED and removed from gaming. GRRR.

[@lastdayer101]

I think they need to be promoted and given a raise.

[@ADesertVoice]

@@lastdayer101 unfortunately if businesses were to be run like that they'd go bankrupt like bungie. There is a reason why people with your current mindset should not run a business.

[@abdelrahmanrad]

this is not a lineage game this is a 100% completely different IP.

[@ADesertVoice]

@@abdelrahmanrad If this is a different IP than it should have begun that way in the first place. There is too many Lineage references in this game that is alarming. A LOT of the weapon designs are taken STRAIGHT OUT OF LINEAGE. Throne & Liberty IP is a literal RIP OFF of the Lineage world and shouldn't exist. Also, no one asked for Throne and Liberty. What everyone was expecting was LINEAGE 3. NCSOFT again failed to deliver and this is the reason why this game will fail and continues to fail where it already has been released in its own country of origin. They were hyping Lineage 3 for over 10+ years man and you can imagine the disappointment when they delivered this SH*T.