Revealing my secret formula for winning lane

[@gatsby4550]

Hey, I'm the Kat here, thanks for the coaching! Found both games super insightful and looking forward to trying the new build out some more! I watched the vod back and it turns out that vex just hugged the wall as she moved to tri, so the ward was just slightly out of range of her haha

[@mirandat6900]

Nope you're wrong. Nice cope!

[@ori2368]

@@mirandat6900 ???

[@sanderoxopsono9468]

which server are you on?

[@eden7323]

@@sanderoxopsono9468 hes on euw :)

[@RetirededKat]

Always ban vex XD

[@k-9230]

Day 2 of actively learning from Neace. What did we learn? 1) If you have one champion with a tankier build, adapt your playstyle in consequence (u can take more dmg before you die) 2) During laning phase you'll sometimes have to give up on creeps if your opponent is trying to harass you. 40 gold is not worth 50% of your HP bar. (specially cos then you will have to play safer and are likely to lose more than those 40 initial gold anyways). Give up wave if the situation is too foggy/dangerous and back/wait. When you don't show yourself people may assume that you've back or that you're roaming. 3) When you are done shoving/slow pushing, look for a play on the map. Bot dive? Contesting / securing drake/herald? If you have priority, use it! 4) As an assassin, if there is no move to be done on the map... Just shove or slowpush 5) Analyze teamfights before they happen. Do you win? Yes = go in. No = look for something else to do (farming, shoving) 6) Chased by an opponent? Do you die if you go back to your turret? Yes = walk the opposite direction of your enemy instead (here: should have walked down when ganked by voli). Starting rank: Silver 2 Current rank: Silver 2 (vacation)

[@ich3730]

if you would put the same effort into the game that you put into setting up this comment, you could be gold atleast lol

[@k-9230]

@@ich3730 That's my plan when im back from vacation lol. For now I'm taking advantage of my free time to reset my mental and finally learn something. That's little practice compared to in-game experience but I feel like by repeating those "rituals" aka in looking for good actions in videos, eventually I'll be able to get stronger than if I just played randomly. Thank you for your concern tho

[@Arbililbra]

Could you link your op.gg from now on so that everyone can watch your jorney on first hand?

[@FractalMelody]

Probably my favorite NEACE video. Really understanding with the student, makes really solid macro and micro points without seeming rushed or frustrated with the student, and really gives quite a learning experience for the viewers. Really nice work, Neace!

[@MixalisEam]

At 10:03 it shows the importance of multiple pings like neace teaches us, had they pinged multiple times when Vex showed in the river when roaming bot, the outcome of that fight would’ve been different. Vex didn’t go on our blindspot, she showed on vision and was even pinged but only once, most of us missed it even as watching the video on normal speed. Just a perfect example of spamming the pings.

[@Undomaranel]

Yes, but it depends. The general consensus of pings is: 1 is a dig or suggestion (respawning in Xsec, omw) 2 is an alert (drake in 30s) 3-5 HELP FOR THE LOVE OF SHELLY HELP NOW Or 3-5 repeatedly all match is the boy who cried wolf syndrome If you're pinging like a madman all match no one's going to know if they should drop the wave to help you right now or if you're trying to do the Neace brainwashing thing that just makes everyone mute your pings because of how annoying they are.

[@localboys7449]

@@Undomaranel I only do a maximum of 2 audible pings, but if I’m pinging dragon or baron then it’s the maximum cos I want that shit

[@MixalisEam]

@@Undomaranel silver response

[@ajx4]

Neace:"We're not afraid here, we're not afraid" Client:"oh shit"

[@jamesio20]

I've been loving sunfire builds on assassin like champs. One of my favorites actually is Nocturne, usually a BOTRK rush into sunfire/wits/titanic that kind of on hit build with lethal tempo. Really fun.

[@csftw1544]

Been rocking this a bit however I max W before E and not even bothering with attack speed items. Feels really good and always ignite for the most part.

[@jqlmanufacturing9129]

I’ve played Nocturne for years. I run glacial augment. When you E you also get the glacial augment proc

[@DamianSzajnowski]

Sounds extra cancer. Essentially what Riot hopes wouldn't work but it's obviously meta like Diana

[@wevegottrouble5891]

7:09 That's so unfortunate. When you basically allude to Volibear being a predictable, greedy player and lay out all the groundwork to fuck with him, but something goes wrong. The worst feeling about this is knowing that Voli will think he played that well when the play was completely outside of his own control and Kata passed that ball to him.

[@SilentObservant]

Or he went to river to get scuttle crab and saw kata go back to mid and decided to go for her.

[@twopandan7134]

Neace in case you dont know you can influence the meta so much. Since this video came out iv seen 3 or 4 kats rushing sunfire. kinda wild

[@squish4369]

that wouldve been katevolved more than neace most likely

[@rsmith8113]

Katarina is such a cool champ I always wanted to learn her especially when I opened the Battle Queen skin but it’s just too much dedication 😄

[@tomasrego9486]

in this patch in particular it's even harder, riot keeps nerfing kata instead of nerfing the items that make her broken

[@losvalea2000]

@@tomasrego9486 they just buffed her??

[@losvalea2000]

It takes a lot of skill to play her at a really high level, but if you like her that much you can learn her at an average level in like a couple weeks no problem

[@OminousBlast]

She’ll be easy to learn if u play other mechanical champs. Still hard to master though

[@potato31415]

@@HighLanderPonyYT sounds like your typical gold player

[@jcdeton72]

Whats the reason to build sunfire?

[@RetirededKat]

At lower Elo I've been having more success with Sudden Impact + Ingenious, rush bork (pickaxe first base) into sunderer. The mpen/lethality helps with early kills (Kat's best form of dmg mitigation is avoidance anyway) and the item cdr lets you get multiple bork procs per fight and it brings sheen cd down as well to let you get a sheen proc on pretty much every E. It synergizes with zhonya and QSS as well if you need them. Relentless is also good for making it to every fight, either way against less-skilled opponents conditioning+overgrowth is unnecessary. Katevolved takes them because he's playing in Challenger.

[@recon13ful]

the sundy build was nerfed pretty significantly if i remember correctly

[@RetirededKat]

​@@recon13ful not really, they buffed the healing to compensate so it's arguably even better now

[@champloo2734]

@@RetirededKat its way worse or everyone would still be playing it

[@RetirededKat]

@@champloo2734 everyone just plays whatever katevolved plays, ignoring the fact he's in Challenger

[@champloo2734]

@@RetirededKat i dont ecen know what he plays but bork is just better

[@6u4t76]

i would still go nashors first and then later on in the game maybe go that sunfire. Nashors is just too strong early for being an AP assassin and can oneshot basically anyone that steps on a dagger

[@bpo217]

How the hell did that Vex get to bot at about 10? Did she flash out of the dragon pit?

[@gatsby4550]

Hey, I'm the kat in the vid. Checked my vod and it turns out she just hugged the wall to tri and the ward was slightly out of range haha

[@AE-qs7pj]

ye, as a kat otp, i tried this build and its not that bad in some games, but u surely do not rush sunfire even if behind, just go for nashors first into sunfire demonic for core and then just choose between titanic, tank items (force of nature for example) zhonyas if needed , and basically more health

[@AE-qs7pj]

plus its actually better if u have too much damage on ur team and ur into squishy teamcomps, into bruisers and tanks ud do 0 damage actually

[@izzymcgdog7653]

What is the summoner app on the left?

[@therealgteper9259]

It’s a new part of porofessor

[@SavaZalen]

Sunfire strat is nice but going bork is better den nash And den going titanic , demonic I usually deal 30-40k+ in a game

[@iamthejustin7420]

I still like electrocute and using short trades to proc. I think it's better but it's honestly personal.

[@o0nick]

10:50 classic kata/yasuo/yone/riven/zed main moment

[@liamsmith1490]

iv been seeing sunfire on ap champs that get in the middle of things lately dianna being an example.

[@user-hn9zz4kk9x]

haven't played kat in ages, guess it's time to try this build. great video btw

[@sylvaincharbonneau8452]

My hp Katarina =D I go sterak for % base ad and titanic for flat ad/health% and get items to counters for the last items =D I'm so proud to see my build coming out from my idol =D

[@fabuloustobi9684]

how tf did vex get there

[@AuTscoped]

Do you think divine sunderer is better, or Sunfire?

[@MattH9396]

Honestly at this point just buy rocketbelt or riftmaker lol

[@calvinshannon4361]

@@MattH9396 that’s what I’m saying

[@evilerroryt8448]

Katarina's synergy with on hit items is a lil insane sometimes , _ ,

[@Koplerio]

Titanic is way too good of an Item for Kat right now; Esp. going the bruiser build here. It's high damage and high HP. It's actually worth it going Hybrid after you built Demonic there;

[@iamthejustin7420]

You need to auto you can't just run with your viego. He'll always attack viego first because he is about to get a kill on him.

[@fatmcgee509]

Lmao, “I hate the mastery. I get camped when they see the mastery.” My brother in Christ, camping Kat pre-6 is just how you deal with a Kat. She becomes a complete steamroller if you don’t.

[@BestYasuoIceland]

"You keep giving Volibear too much credit" On this patch? Hard disagree. Lutzburg might not be with Riot but his "let me just uhhhhh rework my main into a free ride to Gold 4" monstrosity is still in the game. Volibear benefitted WAY too much from durability patch.

[@jacquegusto4038]

Yeah no volibear can get solo killed by seraphine even when hes fed lol

[@IIBLANKII]

You sir are high. Like the glue on your wings start to melt high. Fly a little lower and don't smoke and comment lol.

[@InZomnia365]

"They're better skillwise but they just do dumb shit". EUW in a nutshell. Lots of people are good at the mechanics and their champs, but have zero clue how to win and end games.

[@DobeCa1]

Riot: nerfs tank Kata so they build her more mage! Neace: ok lets build Sunfire :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[@ikbankai]

that thumbnail though

[@theoplays8242]

auto like to show love for Neace? Yes please!

[@iamthejustin7420]

But I wouldn't play Kat anyways I don't like playing assassins. Low agency kat can't split. Honestly Garen mid would be better than Kat.

[@Wildlifebio]

3rd title change did it for me and finally got me to click 😩

[@HappyCamper84]

Garen into Lallia sucks so hard man.

[@cholesterolcat]

Love your content.

[@AceHam1]

What's this? All the comments are positive I must be here too early ,😂

[@GhalidiaProduction]

#مفيش_ولا_راحه_ولا_براحه

[@aeveon4474]

Day 1 of trying to not run it down as Illaoi

[@SavingAsh]

Day 4 of convincing Neace he is a Teemo one trick

[@danieltaylor3696]

Sunfire rush teemo main

[@MeleeMinion]

Pin meeeeeee

[@MeleeMinion]

xP

[@MeleeMinion]

O_o thank you coach

[@izzymcgdog7653]

KAWABUNGAAAA!!

[@mustafatld4625]

Coach meeeeeeeee

[@zealdestroyer7600]

Mornin

[@plamenbonev5926]

IRON KATARINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0 skill

[@soysaucebananna]

5th comment gets a feee coaching.

[@coolscz1338]

Can you unban me?

[@Mitke420]

Nah rito will nerf it Just like ap kaisa, there cant be fun picks in this game only meta

[@TarshishedCactus]

Whats up with youtubers and goofy thumbnails? lol

[@reillybecker9855]

Neace if you help me climb out of bronze I’ll buy you a weeks worth of CBD gummies and you can vent to my wife every night for free… we got you🙌🏼

[@drakonli]

come on... at last Katarina video and it's Tankarina... do a proper assassin Katarina video pls

[@NEACE]

why would you want assassin when you can go tank

[@Chs3__1234]

I believe he already has rocketbelt electrocute katarina coachings

[@drakonli]

@@NEACE first of all - im kinda fangirling right now :D Second, because in most games you won't have enough damage in real low elo games where you have to actually deal almost all of the damage because adcs in low elo know nothing about the game (im katarina otp hardstuck gold). im watching your vid right now and didnt hear his rank, so not sure if that applies to him, but... in my arguably unimportant opinion - even if you do everything right but you dont have enough damage - your teammates wont do enough and you NEED to do enough damage, because after all of your cd are gone your team either won teamfight or everybody dies UPDATE I've watched the whole video now. Ashe won the early game. Zhao was very good and basically won teamfights. This is not a standart game for low elo and this IS the reason that build worked

[@drakonli]

@@Chs3__1234 before all the reworks

[@Chs3__1234]

@@drakonli here you go :kzbin.info/www/bejne/nai4fpSEg96mi9E

[@mirandat6900]

Neace is a diamond player at best! Not a challenger coach!

[@SushiSharki]

he got to masters with 70% winrate a week ago. that’s just about challenger level

[@SmallSoftBread]

Copium comment right here

[@SmolovBros]

5th comment :;

[@robertmckenna2636]

not his fault but cant stand the wigan accent 😂