A week with the Hori Steam Controller

[@fly_8659]

RIP OG Steam Controllers... they are underappreciated!

[@edward_the_bruce]

Would love a return of the king lol

[@AkoaGenesis]

This guy gets it. Bro great review. I'm not a controller guy until i got the steam controller. Track pads are a must for me. Wish they has more feel to them. Maybe some bumps or a different shape trackpad other than flat. If i fond this controller for cheap ill pick one up to try.

[@willweisgerber245]

Got mine this week and for the most part I love it. Obviously a touch pad would be nice, and having haptics would make it perfect. Someday maybe….

[@Necrocom4]

@@willweisgerber245 my plan is to open this one up and see if you can add motors. Possibly hall effect sticks.

[@zacnyss]

​@@Necrocom4 do it

[@katsuLucas]

@@Necrocom4 do it please i wanna see

[@CandarianGaming]

All the haters have the same thing in common, they aren't gyro users. Good video man \m/

[@gdot1803]

Strawman much? Most of the "hate" (more like disappointment) is in regards to it lacking rumble. Its gyro and touch analog sticks have been praised a lot.

[@CandarianGaming]

@gdot1803 let me reword it then. The bigger videos on this controller saying they won't use it again and don't recommend it openly admit they don't care about gyro. What good is recommending an xbox controller instead to people who want gyro?

[@BioShocklt]

@@gdot1803i literally take motors and other crap like adaptive triggers from dualsense, ds 4 to reduce weight to alpakkas level.

[@banguseater]

@@gdot1803 i feel like this controller is designed for FPS anyway and rumble fucks up gyro aim if the game supports it

[@badmoose01]

⁠premium controllers like scufs remove the rumble.

[@badmoose01]

I got one imported from japan to the US. It definitely feels very light but it’s still well built. There are no panel gaps and the plastic doesn’t creak or give when you squeeze or twist it. The plastic itself is fairly dense as far as controller plastic goes.

[@badmoose01]

The button inputs all feel good to use.

[@xavi_117]

I got one, too. Great controller for gyro. For games that I don't need gyro like Halo, then I just use my Xbox controller. Touch sensitivity stick is great and customizable back buttons are a blessing.

[@karibaevulan]

We need "steam controller 2" BUTTON👉

[@cheater00]

Great review, tyvm. Actually useful instead of big media garbage.

[@mintyemerald3935]

Allegedly there was a recent leak for an official *new* steam controler with trackpads, gyro, and everything

[@Waylon_Gnash]

it's the physical size of the gyroscope that's different. a more compact one has less range and is more touchy.

[@InterstellarLord]

I have just subscribed to the channel, you seem to be the only one who knows what he is talking about. I would love to see you using this controller and playing The Finals, Apex Legends, Off The Grid, Valorant, CS, Delta Force, if with explanations about configuration the better, if handcam the better. Keep up ..

[@Necrocom4]

@@InterstellarLord thanks seriously. I haven't been doing videos much lately but I want to pick it back up again. I did a bunch with that exact style and I will probably be uploading my videos from Reddit onto here soon. Even though they're older.

[@InterstellarLord]

@@Necrocom4 I am looking forward to watch those videos. You are basically the only person that really knows how to use that controller and what is its purpose. I know you know your stuff, but the channel "FlickStick Videos" is the most knowledgeable channel I know about gyro. Just in case you get some ideas for your videos. Maybe it is what you said in the video, you need to stick to it some time, I still find unconfortable gyro, but I really want to get the hang of it. Anyway, I am not looking forward to see a stellar performance in your videos, the better if they are, but what I really would like to see if how to set that specific controller for each video, and just for fun, also videos playing, if with handcam the better. BTW, I have a Alpakka Controller, in theory the most advanced gyro controller. Also there is the BigBig Won Blitz 2 TMR (some people report that the non TMR version of this controller has worse gyro) with 1000Hz polling rate for gyro, but I have not seen any perfmance or use of it, it is too new.

[@bibabutzemann5661]

@@InterstellarLord i play apex and off the grid. Im very good with gyro and always on top. My best tipp i can give you is to use big and small movement flicks to get on your enemy. Big movement flicks = Go with movement stick, aim stick and gyro in the same direction. Small movement flicks = Go with movement stick and gyro in the sams direction. When your corsair is on the enemy, immedietely go into tracking. Track him with just mirror his movement with your movement, or counter his movement and track him with the same tools from small or big "movement flick"

[@bibabutzemann5661]

@@InterstellarLord I outperfotm players in apex with their 40000 kills on wraith. I play with sticks and gyro together. (no aim assist) When i started gyro, my goal was to be as good as my mnk skills. But i got even better. I think a big advantage of gyro over mnk is the ability of fast switching the directions and the ability to make a very fast transition from flicks to tracking. Because we use both arms with the controller in the air. I play with 4x rotations in game with 1 rotation on controller, with liniar acceleration. My big gamechanging tipp is, use movement flicks. Big movement flicks = move stick + aim stick + gyro in the same direction. Small movement flicks = move stick + gyro in the same direction. Then track the enemy by copy his movemwnt or counter his movement with the same tools from the movement flicks. I would only use regular gyro flicks when you dont have the movement stick ready for aiming in some situations. (Like after jumping and other things)

[@TheSilverWolf1998]

I think the reason you didnt like the steam deck gyro is because by default the steam deck uses "roll" for left/right while controllers use "yaw" for left/right. Think of the "laser pointer" of the gyro is calibrated to point out the back of the deck so your gyro movements mirror the screen like a window. Gyro controllers have their "pointer" calibrated to be coming out the top of the controller because youre aiming that part of the controller towards an external screen. You can change the roll/yaw/pitch for any gyro in settings.

[@Tehknologix]

I was wondering why gyro aim felt terrible with the razer kishi. Really good explanation dude.

[@dustinspencer9278]

The og steam controller is one of the greatest controllers I've ever used. I have two that still work fine. I do want to buy the hori controller. It's on Amazon for pre order.

[@theinternetofficer6594]

loved gyro ever since i played the 3d zelda games on 3ds. the gyro is a must for fps games

[@GAMINGMATRIXXX]

Does the Steam Logo button bring up any menus on the Steam Deck? What about the Quick Access Button (3 Dots). Does that bring up the Quick Access Menu on the Steam Deck?

[@Tehknologix]

Single player shooters don’t feel as enjoyable after you’re acclimated with gyro to mouse. Really can’t wait for another 1st party one. The HORI should hold me over.

[@CyberiadPhoenix]

If the face buttons aren't working it may just be dirt or corrosion on the button contacts, some isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip will likely fix it if that is the case. Also I play quite a few arcade-style racing games (most recently FlatOut 2) and I find the double-action triggers quite nice, A satisfying click and tactile feedback to let me know that I'm at full throttle. XD

[@rubberdoctor21]

Can it wake up the steam deck while docked like the original steam controller could?

[@Gummelgimp]

Really want to get one or two of these to germany

[@Randoman590]

Did you try setting up dual-stage triggers with this thing? I always love to put aim on the half pull, then shoot with the full pull. Is that doable and comfortable here or is it too easy to misinput?

[@derekday3896]

I wish this thing had 2 more back buttons and a right trackpad! Its always a compromise with controllers...

[@johnvenus9907]

got my preorder for it on amazon

[@Albertmars32]

Is the gyro in the steam controller really that much better than the one in the Dualsense? Hard to believe given how old the steam controller is

[@Necrocom4]

I've tried the dual sense a bunch. Just didn't feel right for me. It worked but it felt kinda laggy and hard to get used to. I dunno hard to compare.

[@Albertmars32]

@@Necrocom4 i see

[@offroadsnake]

I wish can use the capacitive thumsticks as touch pad funtions Will be great play civilization 5 with a controler

[@Lymund]

would get it if it had hall effects, not trying to replace it in 6 months

[@CandarianGaming]

That tells me you don't use gyro much. In that case why would you get the controller in the first place?

[@letraschinasxD]

So this thing has: a nice dpad(?), a nice gyroscope aaand extra back buttons, I'm thinking of adding it to my controller collection, I wish controllers would ditch the right analog stick or merge it with a trackpad or something.

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Just needs rumble added

[@tabkg5802]

Never cook again.

[@EsEsfandiari]

So sad that it has no mouse pad :( Steam was famous for it's mouse pads

[@GuyManley]

What Bluetooth receiver are you using with it? If on board with the motherboard. What is your motherboard? As far as I can tell testing this controller with various PCs, steam deck, BT Dongles. The better the receiver the better the it performs. But it still feels like it's polling rate is only 60hz. I play games at higher refresh rates to for me the ps4 pad still wins out due to the 1000hz polling rate on the gyro. Was hoping this would be a replacement as they do not make ps4 controllers anymore and the ps5 pad just hates my hands.

[@Necrocom4]

@@GuyManley I have a separate Bluetooth receiver on my board since the one on my board stopped working a few years back. It's pretty beefy. Like I said though I don't see a difference with how the gyro feels from the SC

[@zarelinoise3866]

so basically a PS4/Switch controller without the extra compatibility I see no reason on owning this over a current PS5 controller or one of those hall effect Switch gamepads like the FlyDigis

[@CandarianGaming]

The gyro activating thumbsticks is the reason it stands out.

[@Aikobos]

WTF did they do to the Steam controller? This looks no better than a Switch controller.

[@CandarianGaming]

But it is better than the switch controller. D-pad is superior, better gyro, touch sensitive thumbsticks and 4 extra buttons that are fully supported.

[@alvoria]

i'd set it to gyro when i'm not touching the stick so i can still aim whilst pressing any other button with right thumb

[@CandarianGaming]

@alvoria you can also set the gyro to the left stick and have the face buttons activate the gyro if need be

[@puunk_9240]

I've been trying to play more games on controller but my libraries are full of fps games that i can't stand playing on controller. Is this a good controller for learning/getting use to gyro?

[@Necrocom4]

@@puunk_9240 I would say if you're used to sticks first yeah. Either way play games with aim assist first for awhile. One of the games I'm playing in the clips is zombie army trilogy. It's heavy on aim assist and it's a great game to to start with gyro aiming.

[@CandarianGaming]

Practise gyro with aim labs

[@bibabutzemann5661]

I ordered mine yesterday. I hope i get used to the Stick on the top left. I always had playstation controllers. But i want an alternative, because i dont want to tape my Sticks to the touchpad anymore.

[@Necrocom4]

@@bibabutzemann5661 sounds like it's exactly what your looking for. I grew up on PlayStation controllers so I know

[@dpc4548]

I can't take the offset analogue controllers.

[@111mrs]

how to get it

[@bibabutzemann5661]

I got mine today. Sadly the right stick is a bummer. I play on very low deadzones, here the controller just reads inputs on 45 degree steps, while my Dualsense 5 read every stick movement precisely. Thats a no go for me. I played with "stick mouse". Gyro and everything else is good. It would be better if you can overclock this controller to 1000 polling rate like the ds5.

[@Necrocom4]

@@bibabutzemann5661 weird I don't have that issue. I played a ton of games using gamepad settings at first before switching to mouse mode so

[@bibabutzemann5661]

@@Necrocom4 maybe because you play with a bigger deadzone? I put the deadzone down to 0 on the hori until i got a little bit stick drift. At this point it felt the same as my deadzone of 3 on the dualsense. When i do bigger motions with the stick its fine. But when i just move it a tiny bit above the deadzones the corsair moves only in 45 degree angles in FPS games. (tested in apex)

[@Necrocom4]

@@bibabutzemann5661 for gamepad I don't touch the configs. Just left it on default

[@bibabutzemann5661]

@@Necrocom4 ok. But this problem is pretty much personal preference for me. If the stick would be the same as the ds5 edge, this controller would easaly be my main controller. I loooove the light weight. I didnt even know how much better a lighter controller is for gyro.

[@CandarianGaming]

To be far in that regard, no controller compares to the DS5 in that test.

[@VagrantValmar]

Hey man sorry if this is off topic. Do you know where I could get the back plate of the steam controller? I got one but it has no backplate and I've been looking everywhere for one. Any ideas?

[@Necrocom4]

Off the top of my head you could find someone to print one. I think I had a guy 3d print one of the ones that hold the dongle years back for pretty cheap. You can find the file on 3d geeks or something

[@thatzaliasguy]

​@@Necrocom4Valve actually provided all Steam Controller STL files (including the PCB) when they announced the Steam Controller discontinuation. The Steam News post about it is still up with working links (just checked today).

[@daviddelgado5553]

The triggers are a real turn-off, heavily used them on the Steam Controller.

[@javieralvarez4802]

Does your old steam controller have like issues conecting with the steam deck? Mine sometimes freaks out and does random things, today i was playing elden ring and the steam button was being picked up as the R1 bumper until i shut it down and turn back on, its have been funky like that for some weeks now

[@Necrocom4]

Yeah same issue. I blame valve for not paying attention to the steam controller users when they update things. I haven't seen those bugs present with this one. Not yet anyways.

[@VictorGomes33]

Is it hall sensors?

[@Necrocom4]

It's not. To be fair I've had hall effect sticks on my legion go and I don't really tell a difference.

[@caleasthetic]

valve has not much to this with this controller. just hori. they only work with valve to get everything working. not how they make the controller. honestly i just want the deck controls in terms of layout. but i dont know if that feels nice with a normal controller shape. you grab the deck at a higher point then you would a normal controller. i like what the steamcontroller could do with the trackpads. but i hate the build quality and the abxy layout and placement. the deck feels fine with gyro aiming in my opinion. but i am just weir dmaybe. because i have tried many different controllers and gyro aiming styles. from trackpad + gyro to gyro ratcheting on the alpakka and even flick stick. i just adjust easilyt to all these different styles of gyro aiming.

[@dragonsnackproductions]

Do you Guys know...HOW... to enable steam controller touchpad WASD movements but 'on touch' not 'touch press'? I've tried everything...did Steam change something for the Steam Controller for the worse?

[@bibabutzemann5661]

There is an option called "requires click“ turn it off

[@dragonsnackproductions]

@@bibabutzemann5661 thank you so much! I hope this works... and is part of the newest steam input too

[@dragonsnackproductions]

Button is gone XD didnt work sadly EDIT: I'm dumb! Found the setting inter control wheel besides Directional Pad - that is where I found it :D Thanks again!

[@AlbertoLopez-o4n]

Where did you buy it?

[@Necrocom4]

eBay has a bunch you can order but it says from Japan so be prepared to pay a ton in shipping

[@jasonsmith530]

Stop trying to make track pads a thing Gabe

[@diazeriksen6382]

The cuts/edits are really jarring and frequent. And those two buttons are programmable "apparently"? You spent a week with it and didn't try it but you're reviewing it

[@中野義明-n3v]

Woe is you, better ask for a refund on your free video.

[@DaMu24]

Rambly

[@Necrocom4]

@@DaMu24 yeah well I see a lot of people outright bashing it so

[@piggyproalice2]

Tbh this is just a generic controller. The only thing it has is a steam logo, WHERE ARE THE TRACKPADS?

[@CandarianGaming]

Generic controllers don't have 2 back buttons, 2 front buttons and touch sensitive thumbsticks that are fully supported by steam input.

[@tormentedterror]

This is the worst controller I have ever seen . Looks like Atari from a decade ago.

[@BioShocklt]

Where did you order it from?