NEET Logic

[@MillenniaThinker]

1) Was it worth it anon? 2) Is there a way to help them no counting unemployment benefits?

[@THETRUTHISHERE2030]

Yes No

[@HeyMomonia]

It wasn't and now i have nothing and have to fix everything And for 2 i don't know It might be too late

[@dennisberserk584]

1) Was it worth it anon? Yes, it was definitely worth it to be a NEET. What's the alternative? Be a wagecuck and work end-work with a minimum wage, most of which will go to paying rent and taxes? 2) Is there a way to help them no counting unemployment benefits? Find part-time work or continue to live with your parents helping them around the house, and they will provide for you

[@ВладиславЙан]

Yeah it's fun at first Then it's just chore and boring The truth is it was not fun Just a mere break from working life I enjoyed this lifestyle when I was in army but when I got free from it It become chore

[@Lord-Stanhope]

Of course it's not worthwhile to give up on life. The only things that can help his friends are Destitution and isolation.

[@cyrusmorales4880]

I chose to be a NEET for 8 months when I got out of the military. That career was eating me from the inside out. It was great being a NEET for a while, but then everything felt meaningless and like I was just in my bedroom rotting away. I picked up a part time job. I don't give up too much of myself working that job either. Things are good.

[@firstlast8258]

I don’t feel bad for anyone in the military unless they were drafted

[@JRob99]

@@firstlast8258 he wasn’t asking for sympathy lmao

[@Eric-fd2xe]

Hey, me too choose to be a neet after the army

[@firstlast8258]

@@JRob99 good because he won’t get it from me unless he was drafted

[@bulgarianmanface]

@@firstlast8258 I doubt he cares about an opinion of some random loser. You're either fat or skinny, while he's a prime masculine man. You're a loser, he's not. Nobody cares if you feel bad for someone.

[@ChineseGlobalism]

Being a NEET kills your soul, but so does having a soulless job. Too bad for most people those are their only options.

[@firstlast8258]

Most people have other options

[@rixille]

Finding a job that brings fulfillment, a job that gives you a sense of purpose is like finding an oasis in the desert. Some people never end up finding it.

[@TACCOFSX]

@@rixille I disagree. You can find fulfillment in every job if you really want to.

[@lecrovidae6987]

A job isn't your only option. Everyone seems to forget that.

[@eliassteere6740]

@@lecrovidae6987 What is the other option? I have not the smarts needed for any kind of college scholarship. I will have to work to get all the crazy expenses college throws at you taken care of. I've thought of getting into crypto before, but am worried of losing it because of my poor financial skills. I want to find something I'm good at. Something I can make profitable.

[@ryant6548]

As a NEET myself, I can confirm this video is shockingly accurate. Everything from the thought process to the dishes sitting out. I've been unemployed for a year now. I interview for jobs but have only been rejected. I tell people I trade stocks when they ask what I do to avoid the shame associated with being a NEET. I live with family and make sure to be kind and helpful around them, so that they won't bother me. The only difference is that I still want to find work. I don't want to be a NEET forever. It pisses me off that I have years of experience and a college education, and yet I still can't get hired in my field. I won't go get a wage cuck job. Not unless I have to.

[@eduardoandrescontrerasrome6703]

College? Shit, I am fucked. What career did you study? I am studying electrical engineering so I hope I can find a job

[@Ldr1999]

Try going into retail. The field is always providing opportunities for people.

[@XSparterKnowledge]

if you don't reject the world, you are just unemplyed, not a real neet.

[@ryant6548]

@@eduardoandrescontrerasrome6703 Engineering you should be good. There are not enough engineers to fill positions. I'm in the physical sciences. While normally it wouldn't be too tough to find work, I have circumstances that make it more difficult.

[@ryant6548]

@@XSparterKnowledge But everything else describing how NEETs act is spot on.

[@ThatOpinionIsWrong]

Comfort is death. I was still in high school during COVID and graduated shortly before 2021. I didn't went to university even though I could, and didn't look for a job either. I spent entire year being a NEET to "find myself" and "try making my own business". it was a time wasted that I recall with pain and soul aching sadness. I spent days on my computer, dropped hobbies and gym. Just consumed. Both my mental health and physical health dropped significantly. I was ashamed of myself. I had developed social anxiety and social retardness. I dropped all my friends and stopped talking to family apart from my parents. I spent entire days in my room. Glad to say I'm better now. I have a job, I went back to the gym and currently bettering my skills, hopefully to get another, better job soon, as well as preparing for university I'm going to attend soon. I do not wish the NEET lifestyle upon anyone. It's a rabbit hole, it's hard to get out once you fall in. Chilling all day is only fun for few days at a time, doing it full-time is literal hell.

[@chunkymilk]

you know nothing, zoomer.

[@blacksheep6855]

How do you help someone you know is going through this?

[@firstlast8258]

Speak for yourself

[@firstlast8258]

@@blacksheep6855 you can’t help someone that won’t help themselves

[@lobxtmic]

@@blacksheep6855 Therapist - maybe there is some sort of trauma, grief, or other stuff.

[@davidpowers1175]

Was a NEET for a really long time. Got a job, but that job wasn't enough for me. So I just started up community college again this Semester. Being a NEET is soul-sucking

[@GojoGOATED]

Best of luck david

[@jokerpilled2535]

Community college can be traumatizing.

[@woodensauce1063]

Don’t listen to jokerpilled, there is nothing traumatizing about pursuing higher education. Good on you man, best of luck!

[@jokerpilled2535]

@@woodensauce1063 go to a normal college instead

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Good shit man keep grinding 🔥😀

[@crispyandspicy6813]

>have job >too little time to enjoy what you want >no job >too much time to stare into the abyss

[@Kakunkeittaja]

so succinct!

[@adamjaggers4284]

get a part-time job. all or nothing thinking usually boils down to avoidance.

[@Motion4000]

Enjoyment is overrated. If we want success I think the best thing to do is just accept the grind and learn to love it.

[@Danstarr13]

@@crispyandspicy6813 you know you’ve been there too long when the abyss starts to stare back

[@zombieboy937]

​@Motion4000, But if you learn to love the grind, wouldn't that be you.. Enjoying it😮. Therefore, based on your logic, grinding is irrelevant😮. 😂Nah, but I get what you're trying to say.

[@bullymaguire8414]

It feels like the stories just gets more darker as time goes by. Did anyone notice that or is it just me?

[@choochskookum]

the world is getting darker. or hadnt you noticed?

[@longrobosa-kfpawacs]

Winter is coming

[@abimbus659]

He has many darker videos from before wojak cinematic universe.

[@danilakalinin6261]

Oneshots are, In series some characters grow, get better when put some work.

[@theimperialist2686]

It shows the reality of how the world is, that's why it gets darker and darker.

[@Griggs133]

I was a NEET for 2 years after graduating HS. It was fun for a while being able to do things like drink whenever I wanted and stay up all night playing video games but eventually it became soul crushing. I would wake up, have coffee, watch youtube, go to the gym, and then come home and play video games and drink until I fell asleep. Rinse and repeat every day for weeks. I had a ritual every Friday where I would go to the mall and just sit at a table and watch people living their lives. Eventually I decided enough was enough and enrolled in the local community college. I graduated with a computer science degree with honors and now I'm working my own hours making more money than I ever imagined. Never give up on yourself bros and keep trying your hardest when things seem desperate. We're all going to make it.

[@primary2630]

Good work man

[@Yes.]

I really needed to hear this cause I’ve only been out of work for a couple weeks and I feel like absolute crap.

[@vyepez500]

You were drinking and going to the gym ?

[@an1megraphics627]

love that zyzz moto brah , i bet you are a sickkunt

[@TheArtistRae]

@@vyepez500 I smoke 🍃 and go to the gym you can do both as long as you are smart about it

[@LatinKingsLS]

I have been NEET for 10+ years and i tell you all this, Never. Ever. Let. Your. Life. Go. To. This. It is hell. stuck in a dark maze waiting for days to end while being stuck in alcoholism. I hate it. But i am planning to grow wings and start over new life. Wish me Luck pals. And i wish Good Luck to everyone else fighting depression.

[@kynetickey8407]

It might sound cliche, but I'm sure you'll be able to achieve whatever you want if you put your mind to it. You can change your life. I wish you all the best & I'm rooting for you :)

[@adamdukey7961]

Ivan you are beautiful.. you got this dont give up 🤗😍

[@benband3883]

I’ll pray for you. Good luck, make sure to keep moving 6 days a week!

[@patrickphilip777]

Praying for you bro. Jesus will give you rest when you are weary and give you strength when you are weak

[@shungite3446]

Within darkness the hawk of light is discovered

[@jigneshganja]

Honestly, a job is a job. I was a neet for half a year and it soon life became boring. But then I decided to find a job and started working. After that, gaming returned to being a fun activity after a day's work instead of being a chore.

[@firstlast8258]

Not everyone can work

[@Moonless6491]

@@firstlast8258 if you are disabled, then that is different. But, most Neets are just capable, grown men and women who refuse to accept reality.

[@Forged4War206]

@@Moonless6491 I got a friend that’s a textbook NEET. He’s always got some kind of reason why he cant get a job right now. First it was because he didn’t like his degree but he didn’t want to start over or finish his current one. Then it was the pandemic. Then it was the fear of getting COVID if he went out in public for too long. Then after he got COVID, he said that getting a job without having a degree wouldn’t be worth it because he wouldn’t be able to find a good job to pay his bills or groceries anyway without the high inflation. He’s lucky to have parents that don’t seem to give a shit and are willing to just let him waste his life away playing video games and sleeping.

[@firstlast8258]

@@Moonless6491 and how do you know they are not disabled are you a doctor that examined them?

[@firstlast8258]

@@Forged4War206 then make new friends

[@PASTLIF]

"Without their help you would not have a easy time as you have now" This is so true,Many people don't appreciate their parents hardwork Without knowing that they're the reason they have a roof on their heads

[@gulammohammad9996]

@Gaydolf Shitler bruh why would they kick you out living with parents is a blessing

[@firstlast8258]

Speak for yourself

[@mrtortoise3766]

@@gulammohammad9996 cause they have no obligation to take care of you after 18 you are not owed housing by your parents after 18

[@Ghost101]

@@gulammohammad9996 Yeah, it can be a blessing but also a curse. After you live with them for awhile, it certainly can take its toll on your mental well-being and possibly theirs because you have to put with the usual family BS that comes from your aging parents or relatives. I speak this from my personal experience. Believe it or not, living with parents are more common in Asian families than in American families.

[@paradiseexpress3639]

Many people forget that its your parents fault you're in that position to start with.

[@Danstarr13]

I was a NEET for 4 years after high school. It was simultaneously the best and worst time of my life. I discovered a love for producing music though became increasingly more and more isolated to the point of losing all my friends. Doesn’t help that I’m horrendously introverted, basically a social black hole, you have to dump so much time and effort into me before you get anything back. However I have since got my shit together somewhat, studying at uni with a part time job. It’s not much but it’s something. Something is better than nothing. What I can say to someone in a similar situation is this: nobody is going to come knocking on your door to save you from yourself while you sit behind it staring at that godforsaken screen zoning out on mindless online content generated by people who’s careers are built on keeping you hooked for as long as possible so they get their drip feed of ad rev every month. Beware, it’s an insidious addiction that once it takes hold, is designed so that you don’t even notice it. The comfort zone, ingeniously disguised as a soft cute teddy bear, reveals its true sadistic nature if you stay there long enough to find out… I implore you to avoid it at all costs. It may seem like the best place in the world, but it too is finite in its pleasure and will begin to suck the life out of you like a parasite you are now willingly feeding because any semblance of responsibility seems like an insurmountable task in comparison. TLDR; comfort zone bad. Responsibilities good.

[@geist3591]

Well put

[@Samuel-by1zg]

A close family friend of mine is a NEET. He’s graduated with a lower second in archeology from a below average uni. All he does is play games, I can see because We are friends on steam. Hes made it clear to me that he’s just trying to get away with being a NEET for as long as possible(it’s been over 6 months). I didn’t think it would last long but after this video I can see that this is most likely the mindset he has. I don’t want to see his mother have to go through the pain of her son becoming this useless leech. What can I say or do to get him to change or am I over reacting and he will become depressed enough to change. He seems happy enough to blow three years of uni away making fuck all friends so I don’t think change is coming.

[@blueberry12342]

Are you people so Ğ4Ý within these 4çhan-like sphere to a point you're going to all skip on talking about your needs?! Your emotional baseline? Your mental hygiene? "Muh responsibility" lmao. I think society takes men way too granted if most men seriously have this kind of mentality and lack introspection. Besides the only thing that creates harrowing loneliness, engagement and motivation, stress are all neurochemically triggered and we don't choose to have them until we make the conscious effort to recognize our personal triggers. You are not forced to be part of society because you are already "benefiting" from its perks. After all, it's been also reinforced neurochemically to drive different groups of people to different places and mindset accordingly, biased or justified. Anything else is cope. And if you care about not being stagnated, you can always be open minded to info instead of latching onto a system of thought.

[@vandalic8566]

​@@blueberry12342what does this even mean

[@blueberry12342]

@@vandalic8566 can't you read it? i can't be bothered to but atleast it got paragraphs.

[@SnorlaksWM25]

Good work requires experience and knowledge. Poor jobs do not allow you to live independently and start a family. What choice do young people have?

[@firstlast8258]

Cope or rope

[@nathanaelashnonmusic2615]

Then look for a better one. It takes a bit, but you eventually get that good paying job with good benefits. Legit all you have to do is put your time and effort into it and you'll climb the ladder. I'm 19 and I'm working my fucking dream job man. I'm sure you can do the same thing.

[@existinginaspace8347]

@@nathanaelashnonmusic2615 Nah dude, your an exception to the rule. The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll appreciate it. Most people just simple aren't capable of holding down a big money job without wanting to kill themselves. Or never found a type of work that brings them fulfilment.

[@NikosM112]

I'm almost graduating community college and I'm thinking of freelancing afterwards. I've worked at companies with my profession and man... Do I hate working with people. Too much toxicity in the workplace.

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

take the poor job and suck it up. swallow your pride, your arrogance and plough right on ahead. save up what little you earn and work hard towards a career goal.

[@nmisoo]

You are not just a content creator, you are an intellectual my friend! these stories hit deep.

[@joedalton155]

Being a NEET is very comfortable for a while, but the more you keep that lifestyle, the more it kills your motivation to do anything constructive, and the more difficult it becomes to step out of it.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

wrong. being productive and making a bunch of rich people richer because you're afraid to be fired is the worst kind of motivation

[@thomasglass7223]

@@cagneybillingsley2165 r/antiwork user spotted

[@nozoto]

@@cagneybillingsley2165 Sad to say but I completely relate to your words, I feel that any paradigm's meaningless anyway, mostly as I see my big brother advising pestering idiots on phone for hours...

[@BoleDaPole]

Yea its pretty pathetic seeing all these people work meaningless jobs , working thier asses off just to get thier rich boss richer. Do 1 thing out of line and you're fired bc you're easily replaceable. It's either be a NEET and have stress or be a worker bee and have stress.

[@dantewilliams2757]

Can confirm was looking for work for months but couldn’t get anything.I noticed how unmotivated and genuinely lazy I bacame.thankfully have a job now and things definitely feel back on track at least for now

[@GrosserAndrew5000]

Finally the words of wisdom at the end are back!!!

[@piotrgraniszewski8544]

JC, a bomb!

[@krsmanjovanovic8607]

@@piotrgraniszewski8544 What a rotten way to die

[@piotrgraniszewski8544]

@@krsmanjovanovic8607 A bomb's bad choice for close range combat.

[@GrosserAndrew5000]

@@piotrgraniszewski8544 A BOMB?!

[@muddassirbahri487]

I've never been a NEET but I can definitely relate to a NEET's perspective. We're taught in school to work hard, study hard and pursue our dream career so we can succeed. But then reality hits us and we find ourselves stuck in unfulfilling work that at best takes up a third of our lives just for us to survive while the owners of the companies we work at thrive on the fruits of our labor. Then we spend all our money on overpriced food, overpriced rent, overpriced utilities, overpriced education (for the Americans out there). People struggle so much just to stay afloat. Sure plenty of people succeed in life but like the saying goes, "It's less about what you know and more who you know". I probably wouldn't have gotten my current job if it weren't for a personal connection with an employee. The people that pull themselves out of poverty have to work so much harder, risk so much more, with no real guarantee of success because they don't have access to those connections that people born into wealth have. Not to mention trying to become self-employed is so much harder if you don't have existing capital to fall back on if your venture fails. The point the NEETs make about taxes being used to pay off freeloading single mothers is misplaced but indicative of a much larger point of how the government isn't using taxes to help its people. In reality, our taxes are instead largely used to fuel our military-industrial complex that has destroyed millions of lives around the world and to bail out corrupt banks that have destroyed millions of lives domestically or carrying out injustices through our broken judicial systems that only really protect the powerful. Many people realize the unfairness and futility of all of this and just . . . give up. What's the point of pushing myself so hard just to barely eke out a living? Why does this entry level position require a ridiculous amount of experience? Why do I need to work so hard just for the opportunity to make money for someone else? It should be noted that many NEETs also tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds meaning they have a choice in being able to mooch off family or friends. But all this means is that many people suffering from the depression and anxiety that NEETs have are forced to work or face poverty. I feel like this video individualizes an issue that is only a symptom of the larger problem of the effect that meaningless work has on people.

[@herec0mestheCh33f]

Sorry you're not allowed to complain about the social structure that's been chosen for you. Worship the dollar, let people who own the factories do politics for you, don't question the morality of forcing people to work. Be a good proletarian. It's your place. The chains are natural. Its just human nature* *if we pretend nation states existed since the beginning of human history.

[@LoLaSn]

The giving up thing is pretty relatable, realizing what our species truly is sucked the life out of me

[@firstlast8258]

@@herec0mestheCh33f speak for yourself 🤓🖕

[@biggibbs4678]

The whining of a lazy child who doesn't wanna work.

[@adrone123]

@@herec0mestheCh33fReturn to monke my ooga boogah

[@83aber1]

The job interview is a job that pays in mental stress.

[@firstlast8258]

Not everyone can work

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

Believe me, when you have a job you really hate then the interview will be like a holiday

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

@@lugburz-shak4629 I really can't see it because I want to off myself, that's why I'm gonna leave and look for something different

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

@@lugburz-shak4629 Thank you and I hope you will have a good life too

[@86Framer]

@@firstlast8258 I know people in wheel chairs who work in call centers and whatnot. Are you not working because you feel like you cant?

[@Enclave_Communications_Officer]

Im 18, found a job 1 month ago and its actually cool to pay for things with your own money. Bought my mom a few gifts.

[@janileskovsek7975]

You're a good man.

[@NikosM112]

How awesome of you to do that for your mom. ❤️👌

[@npc5809]

Based

[@rixille]

Good for you. Can you live an independent life and feel like your job gives you purpose?

[@firstlast8258]

18 is a baby

[@olive8604]

I’m a lazy person by nature, but I was raised to believe that I always have to look after myself and not count on others to support me. So I’ve spent the past ten years working jobs that I hated and stressed me out, so as not to burden others. The jobs themselves aren’t that bad, and I often do them very well, with high marks from both management and customers. Despite my lazy nature, I’ve always had the mindset that if you’re going to do something at all then you should do it well, not half-ass it. But this sucked a lot of energy from me and stressed me out, and left me with nothing when I got home. It is incredibly difficult for me to do things that most normal people don’t seem to have trouble with, like getting a college degree or working a full time job. I’ve been at my current job for five years. I started part time, got promoted to full time, then had a mental breakdown which caused me to drop back down to part time. Then they started slowly bumping my hours up again to pretty much full time again (37.5 hours), and again my mental health really suffered. About a month ago I reached a breaking point, and came really close to killing myself. I had a series of really bad breakdowns both at home and at work, where all of these suppressed feelings and emotions just came bursting out, and I had no way to stop them. I’m usually good at putting on a smile to cover the pain, but I reached a point where I couldn’t do it anymore. After talking with my family and management at work, we worked out a plan to give me three weeks off of work. This is the longest time that I’ve been off of work since entering the workforce. I don’t know if it really counts as being a NEET since I am still technically employed, but it has been really illuminating. I feel happier, healthier, freer, more myself. Life doesn’t seem like this horrible endurance test that I just have to endlessly push myself through. I can just be. Pursue what I want when I want, for as long as I want or don’t want to. Hobbies are fun again, learning is fun again, I can go things at my own pace. I never really knew how much I needed this. But that all ends tomorrow. The three weeks are up and I’ll be expected to go back to work, probably for the rest of my life, up to the day I die, just for the privilege to continue living. I know people will say, “find a different job,” but my options are very limited due to being uneducated and unskilled. And more to the point, I don’t think there is any job that I could do for 8+ hours a day 5+ days a week that wouldn’t eventually make me feel this way. I just don’t feel cut out for this type of life, which on a global scale is still pretty easy and comfortable compared to what I could be forced to do. Many would consider the opportunity to work full time with benefits a privilege. On an intellectual level I understand that. But on a spiritual and emotional level it is so very alien to me. I cannot relate to many of the highly rated comments here saying that being a NEET is soul crushing. I got a small taste of it, probably the only one I’ll ever get, and it was amazing. I wish I didn’t have to go to work when I didn’t want to. I wish every day could be a self-directed adventure. I wish everyone who wanted to live like this could. But I know that is a fantasy. I don’t know how to end this pointless ramble, but if you’ve made it this far then thank you for taking the time to read it all. I wish you all peace and happiness in whatever you choose to do, or at least the occasional pleasant respite from whatever you are forced to do. Good luck. ❤

[@aryangelozzi1244]

I readed it entirely out loud (in my bedroom) to improve my English, cause I am Italian I am so sorry for your story, but I think that you can find something different even if you are uneducated, just attend some courses of something you like after having saved some money

[@accie.]

currently a neet myself but just got hired. not estatic about it but i plan on either becoming a surgical technician that takes only one year of training or being an audio engineer. both pay absurdly well and i could easily make 40 or 50 grand a year by working 20 hours a week. ive worked a few jobs before and 20 hours seems to be my sweet spot tbh. both require minimal or no training or college and pay really well. i highly reccomend you look into those or high paying jobs like that. ill probably opt for audio engineering as you get to work more on your own terms and have the option to freelance really easily meaning if i meed surgery (which i do) i can work a bit extra to support that really easily or less as needed.

[@QDRUMSQ]

I enjoyed reading your comment, thanks for sharing your story, it’s given me a lot of insight. I’m also a full timer and struggled with the same type of thing when it comes to laziness,and my 2 cents would just be that us humans have to have balance between work and leisure. Being a “NEET” for a couple weeks after working yourself to death sounds like time to knock some of the letters off that acronym, or relax. I had a buddy tell me if I “really hate the 9-5/8 lifestyle then just try your hardest to learn a valuable skill, the same effort you put to your shitty job you hate” and that has been echoing since he said it to me, I think even though we’re lazy at times, we’re not at others cause we’ll work until we go bald, or damn near die, so we just put the energy in the wrong places.

[@hieronymuslarsson1388]

Thanks for sharing.

[@corrina1963]

good luck, hope things are getting better!!!

[@kugelblitz9365]

Man this hits hard for me not to long ago, but if someone like me can break the cycle so can you.

[@firstlast8258]

Many are called but few are chosen

[@nibbax7772]

Where do I start?

[@Kou-bz4kb]

"I can do it, you can too!" Is such a stupid logical fallacy

[@ccop4196]

tbh, im at this place in life, where I do nothing but getting high almost everyday. I didn't finished school yet, I've never had job. I have no money for school, my family is poor, I'm spendin money on drugs to suppress my suicidal thoughts n depression. I didn't wanted to finish school, because I thought I would be already dead. Only escape I see is dealing w33d so i could pay for my school. As time passes, I wanna die more than I wanted to. I feel so lonely, even tho I have friends, family. But ik It will be so useless to talk with them about my problems cuz they just don't know how to deal with that. I literally just exist.. i don't know what needs to happen so I could pick myself out of this shit... yk, u can't save everyone, and yk, I think it's their choice.. if they find peace in suicide then ig.. it's fine....

[@ccop4196]

but ofc you gotta get 6pack first before you die.

[@xXNP4CNuclearXx]

Being a NEET is ok only if it gives you time to realize you need to grow in life and better yourself. if you are complacent being a NEET, you have a problem.

[@voborny]

Thats a NEET way to think about it

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

wrong. it's far easier and natural to grow in life and better yourself if you have a real job and study a real subject

[@pietrocavicchioli6128]

@@リンゴ酢-b8g he isn't saying that becoming a NEET is good to "find yourself", he's saying that if by being a NEET you end up "finding yourself" and growing up, then it's at least ok

[@jokerpilled2535]

@@misterycryptowhoknows8017 any time you use to grow as a person is not wasted time.

[@Moonless6491]

@@misterycryptowhoknows8017 If you have the savings and are funding yourself to take some time, that's up to you. But it's never ok to mooch off your parents to play video games all day

[@Takashii85]

"Everyone is rushing forward and I'm standing still" I feel like that quite often and social media doesn't exactly make that feeling any better..

[@sbeve7536]

The sad thing is that I have friends who are gonna end up like this: they dont bother looking for job, they dont think about higher education, they dont even focus on their current education. They just sit around thinking that if they do nothing things will come to them because they are part of the generation that got told that we are special and that we can make money by doing next to nothing. I really hope I'm wrong about them but i dont think I am. Edit: I’m happy for all the advice I’m getting from people and I’m going to try and follow it but I feel like I need to clear up on a few things: 1: this is not my only social group as I was fortunate enough to have several. They are not the only people in my life and I am lucky enough to have people who are supporting me and have similar goals/ ideas. 2: as of right now I am currently getting things on track. As of writing this I finished organising a bunch of my studies and soon I will be going to hand in a “new staff introduction” form at my new job I will be starting asap. My main reason for writing this comment was I just felt bad for my friends and others who are going to end up like those in the video or maybe worse, even if it is their own fault. They are my friends and I will try to help them because what else are friends for. I know a few of them have rough spots with family so it’s not like they have people around all the time who can put them on the right track. If I have to cut them off I will do so with a lot of sadness because I do miss when we could just forget about things and have fun, but who doesn’t you know. Growing up sucks man.

[@markshiman5690]

Liberal Hivemind.

[@firstlast8258]

Focus on yourself

[@naikjoy]

yes exactly.. don't be there for the funeral even after they kill themselves. It will only make you sad.. just enjoy life.. me me me embrace hedonistic narcissistic tendencies that translate into a wonderful life

[@meepy2739]

Sorry for you. But better not risk helping them if they can't help them selves.

[@MrCarGuy]

All the subversive comments: "Just abandon long-time friends and avoid any community-building. Just go independent!" This is why we got here to begin with. Collectivize more

[@danielboone8256]

Been there, done that. It’s a hellish (literally, it feels like you’re locked out from all good, meaning, and purpose) experience that feels like your rotting away. A very anti-human lifestyle. Admitting, working a minimum wage job that is terrible for your mind and body seems to be equally hellish, but in a different way. Considering that, the best solution is likely working a job 30-40 hours a week that at least doesn’t cause you distress and is preferably one that you enjoy. Then, you have to weight whether you want money or time more. If you sacrifice your time and enjoyment for money, you may be able to retire earlier. Don’t forget to spend your free time doing something meaningful as well! Volunteer, participate in the community, the church, the gym, join a movement, write a blog, play an instrument, etc. Use your resources wisely and effectively.

[@shadowling77777]

It’s really not that bad lol

[@theecharmingbilly]

(Especially to the youngsters and those who can swing it)... Don't be afraid of a low pay shyte gig. It's only temporary while you network, educate, or train for something you actually want to do. It's far better than becoming a bitter weirdo who yells at the walls. Sadly some people have to do that because medical situations, don't do it because you "hate" the imperfect world. The next person owes you nothing but the brightside is, you owe yourself everything.

[@ramashtovba2355]

I love your advice!

[@Danuxsy]

Sure but at the end of the day we should support automation and make it happen FASTER, people shouldn't have to work any job, it is low quality of life compared to the ERA after jobs are no more.

[@theecharmingbilly]

@@Danuxsy lol no.

[@MiddleFingerLimited]

The real move is to live with your parents, but work a chill job. Best of both worlds.

[@mrjong-pildasong1468]

This immediately made me stop procrastinating and get my ass back to studying 💀💀

[@firstlast8258]

Plenty of people with college degrees working at Starbucks

[@riki4644]

@@firstlast8258 you too?

[@candyjack3659]

Study hard, and make sure to learn how to learn not just pass tests. You'll need that after college if you can't find a job in your field of education to start some sort of startup business.

[@Meusberg]

@@firstlast8258 Cut the cope bro. I've seen you under so many comments here.

[@fbyi2940]

Study what? If it's computer science, lawyer and medical field, yes go back to studying those, if you have passion

[@hawks7738]

i have been a neet for 4 months after i dropped out of college degree at 23. im just too drained. i feel so ashamed as my parents keep pushing me to find a job, any job. i feel out of place among my siblings too, as they are all working and have families. here i am alone in my room all day play games and watching movies, and porn. apparently i don't easily gain weight. but i rarely eat anyways. even if i eat a lot i don't gain weight too. i was diagnosed with bipolar depression 2 years ago but i no longer go to clinic appointment nor i take any medication anymore. i just stopped on my own. im not suicidal anymore i just don't have any energy to do any work. i can't push myself. this comfort feels too good i hate it.

[@bills1967]

I was a neet for about 2 years and I only stopped because I was forced to work. After working for 3 years I went back to school full time and just finished. I’m working a new job now while I am looking/applying for a better job. Parents need to be more intentional and you need to make a change. I only changed because I didn’t want to be in the same situation in 10 years and want to have a big family in the future so that requires work and sacrifices now. Being a neet was fun for a few months but it becomes very depressing afterwards. Keep moving forward.

[@meidomiseri]

Thinking about our parents getting older and how we can take care of them certainly hits home friend

[@spencergalland5754]

I dislike andrew tate, but i heard him talk about making it to where he can take care of his parents and that kinda stuck with me. got me off my ass at least.

[@firstlast8258]

@@spencergalland5754 I doubt a self absorbed scammer is going to take care of anyone but themselves

[@yeaves8189]

Can't. Great grandpa had five kids and lost his teeth to drink soup every meal. My parents have two kids, all their teeth and an addiction to wasting money. Needless to say, my parents don't even want to take care of my grandparents. They act like neets that pretend to have something going on in their lives

[@techpriestalex8730]

They took the job to be parents. It is not your duty to take care of them. It's extremely selfish to think raising another individual an exacting them to help you.

[@Toxic2T]

@@firstlast8258 The blue pill took your balls away, son..

[@CutACrow]

The crushing weight of comfort is suffocating. I catch myself being lulled into NEET like tendencies yet do what I can to pull myself away from that comfortable sarcophagus. For a while I would just Work, Videogame, sleep, repeat. Pinching pennies, starving myself, losing social connections be it from circumstances or lack of maintenance, all for the sake of indulgence. I had a lot of self hatred, regrets, and PTSD from losing many loved ones and friends luckily I became self aware of these flaws and got to work on self improvement. Anons, its never too late despite the grim connotation at the end of the video. You very well may have social anxiety or some sort of anxiety disorder amongst other things, use some NEET bux to fund a mental health professional and take back the control you once lost. Do not be the mindless slave that sucks the teet of corporations that market to your isolation. Strive to break free from your padded prisons. Like some Chinese cartoon once said, "don't believe in yourself. Believe in the you that believes in you"

[@AHeroWith1000Names]

This eloquent soliloquy deserves so many more upvotes. Stay sharp, my friend

[@firstlast8258]

Therapy and medication doesn’t work for everyone

[@CutACrow]

@@firstlast8258 The first therapist isn't for everyone, not all are equally effective. Therapy is just learning about the human condition and dynamics that are related to you. If you have a teacher that doesn't do a good job with teaching then no wonder their students struggle. I strongly urge people to keep up the struggle, im not asking you to run. Im asking you to walk instead of laying down. As for medication, I am not qualified to say much so I will leave that to trained mental health professionals. But therapy and the pursuit of bettering your mental health IS for everyone.

[@professionalhomeinvader6173]

not even able to because of how looked down it is in the military. I thought military life would be good for me but Ive already fallen back into the hole of work, videogames, sleep, repeat. it seems like working every day should chip away at my social anxiety but I don't know. I still struggle to find willpower to initiate or do anything. Im 23 so I still have hope but damn, every time I hype myself up a huge amount, but then still can't pull through. I go through it multiple times a week but I cant do it and it destroys my self confidence. I dont even think it matters where I am its just going to keep happening and it terrifies me.

[@Copilot1204]

@@professionalhomeinvader6173I know what you mean it really does suck people in. The military is a good opportunity to save money and get more discipline. It's even harder to join now thanks to the Genesis Health system, unfortunately.

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

I was a neet for around two years it got the worst during the pandemic, I kept failing my classes in college and had my dad sustain me in anyway he could. I was in a deep depression the whole time and couldn’t get out. Half way through last year I got into boxing and started taking meds for my ADHD, my whole life changed around, I am now killing it in college, got a internship in an architecture firm, I have so many friends I can’t even count. The only thing I can complain about is my lack of free time and sleep but honestly I have never been happier in my life.

[@cupboardofcheese1529]

was there a moment you decided to make a change, any advice?

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

@@cupboardofcheese1529 Honestly no, it’s baby steps. You slowly starts fixing your shit and you get a little happier each time so you feel more fulfilled and more incentivise to do even more. First think I recommend doing is joining a gym and start watching at least some content on KZbin that keeps reminding you to get better everyday. Try staying out of your house as much as you can and when you are in you’re house try doing some chores. Getting into therapy is also really important, you need to talk about what’s wrong with someone or you’ll just forget to change it. Also a lot of us are simply born with wrong chemical imbalance in our head that can be a simple fix with the right medicine. I hope you start doing better, life can be really amazing.

[@cupboardofcheese1529]

@@francogiobbimontesanti3826 Hey thanks for the really detailed reply. Other than going to the gym i've already made a start on some of the stuff you've just mentioned. Going out running every day, reading, learning a language and staying out of the house more often. I think it's just a case of keeping it consistent and keeping that motivation up! :)

[@raketensven3127]

"friends", I wonder how that played out over time.

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

@@raketensven3127 Yeah it’s nice that you asked. Most don’t stick around, and that’s ok. You start focusing more on your life and only keep the friends you really need.

[@helmutgrunther8722]

I've been a NEET for bit over 9 months, it's been the most liberating as well as most depressing 9 months in my life.

[@LazY_NerD]

I've had to involuntarily drop school for 10 months now. I know what you mean.

[@Ho-mb2wb]

"Man is doomed to be free" -Sartre

[@Noname-ud4he]

I’ve been here for over a year and I get to play video games for eternity now

[@adrone123]

Gained your freedom, lost your soul.

[@esdeem9]

currently NEET for over year and a half, my 20s are supposed to be the best time of my life but I lost all hope for a better future because the world we've been growing up exists no more, we have no impact on our employment, especially when you're from small town without driving licence and no public transport with dead job market. Being a NEET is sometimes inevitable for young people.

[@threat718]

Get out of it brother. its the best thing that you'll do, dont look to the future seeing the negatives this life is only yours you make it worth it. Dont fucking waste your years being a leech slave, build something DO something. start going to the gym. stop watching porn. thats how i got out.

[@esdeem9]

@@threat718 I wish i could find a job but people just simply don't want to employe, I'm being ghosted at job market for this whole time and when I'm on interview I feel like this job just overwhelm me, I feel then like grandpa that has to code some phone app without even knowing how to use keyboard. Have no gym near my town, porn is a waste of time, I learn some languages but I'll k*ll myself sooner than would be invited for interview in place I know I would fit well

[@RaidenPSX]

I feel you dude. I was a NEET for almost a whole year before I finally got a local job by chance. People will always blame you for being a NEET, but I know full well that nobody chooses this.

[@primary2630]

@@RaidenPSX some people do, but those are the ones whp dont want to be helped and refuse go help themselves. But good on you man

[@nikitaw1982]

campaign rich guys to make divorce court/family court less predatory to men and suddenly women wont be as horrible. men will have a reason to build them selves because atm building ur self for a woman is like being a cow and fattening ur self so she takes you to the butcher that much quicker. Every guy sees how horrible marriage and divorce is, how horrible being single mother raised is. Men such losers for just accepting divorce rape laws. Jeff Bezos wife got 60 BILLION dollars for what? denying sex, sleeping around, MAxing out his unlimited credit cards and flying in his private jets. fk that. real victims of this is little kids. And the women are liars, tell the kids dad is a loser and left you, no he didn't, hes boarderline suicidal cause can't see his own kids and knows they are being neglected whilst she swipes on dating apps

[@angryjalapeno6686]

I'm in the navy as an electrician and sometimes the hours definitely suck and deployments can be soul-crushing but after watching this I'm thankful to have a career.

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

I wish I could've enlisted in the military, was never allowed to. Due to being severely abused as a child, got barred from every career path I ever wanted to pursue for one reason or another. Glad things are working out for you at least.

[@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL]

It never seems to matter to how many places I send in an application, I never even get a call. And I don't have a car or license, so anywhere farther than I can reach on bike or foot is out of the question. Things would honestly be easier for the people around me if I just weren't here consuming resources I can't work to replace.

[@firstlast8258]

Hang in there

[@bystrovmaxim2185]

Finished my higher education and quit a job I’ve worked 5 years at. Ended up ill mentally and physically at 23. Decided to work on my projects that could bring me additional income. Living at this pace for 3 weeks, trying to get my health back, no particular improvements. My parents approved this lifestyle seeing how broken I am now without particular agreements or obligations, like, make yourself up as long as it’ll take. Life sure is good and sweet. Maintaining discipline is hard though, like I’m studying relatively productive for 3-5 days and then just lying on a bed for 2 days straight. Do not think working 8/5 hours for a wage that hardly allow to pay taxes and buy food is by any means is a decision. Awesome video. Should reconsider if the way I’ve chosen is the right one.

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

You can go to a part time job or something, filling up shelves or something just for disciplin and a few bucks

[@bystrovmaxim2185]

@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 considered this, but haven’t found a good job. Better off this way, don’t want to waste my thin focus on part time job

[@firstlast8258]

@@bystrovmaxim2185 any job is a good job if you are able bodied

[@thomas.thomas]

@@bystrovmaxim2185 sounds like entitlement to me, if you have enough money and something productive to do (and are also actually doing it) then sure, don't take a low pay job, but if you are laying on your bed 2 days straigh then this might be exactly the reason why your focus is so thin, lack of structure is a big problem imo. it's doesn't even matter which structure you adopt, a job or a self imposed one, but we humans need at least some structure in our daily lifes, so we can wake up at the same time to now destroy our circadian rythm and also stay mentally healthy. rountines are good for the human brain, it decreases uncertainty and you don't need to think about what to do next instead you can use your focus on things that really matter

[@stefannowak3655]

@@thomas.thomas Well, you are right. Structure is extremely helpful for these that cant make their own. Though I think the OP is just overworking himself for these 3 days and these 2 days are probably just for regeneration. Or he's feeling blue after getting ghosted for n-th time after job interview. Or I'm just speaking about myself lol

[@ducknwater3016]

My brother is a NEET right now because of his current mental health. He used to be the happiest person In our familiy, now he is the saddest. I hope one day he will get better

[@firstlast8258]

Hope is not a plan

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

@@firstlast8258 Yes it isn't, hes likely doomed, perhaps we all are who knows...

[@BeyondAbsoluteInfinity]

I like how I was talking about this with my friends and this shows up. And as an Ex NEET, the "Doing all your chores so no one gets pissed" is more relatable than I'd like to admit.

[@mattsawatzky5165]

Hahahaha😢

[@marcellone1986]

Second economic crisis of our young lives, after covid now, energy crisis, ecological fanaticism over our rulers, our parents got easy with lower education than us a job (without obbligatory woke quotas), a car, a family (with women that were more sane) with purchase power 5 times or more than today

[@TwelveGuardianKijin]

Man that so True

[@Toxic2T]

Based.

[@belisariusofbyzantine5813]

I never finished school, and I was a NEET for pretty much my entire late teens right up to my early 20s. I met nobody, I had no friends. Worst mistake was joining the army, my social Retardedness I developed from being totally isolated followed me into basic, and I was treated like shit by my fellow recruits. Going from one extreme of being in your bedroom all day with no self discipline to the very regimented lifestyle in the barracks probably wasn't a good idea. Tho it helped me a bit get my ass in gear. I got out, I have a job now and feel much better. It's good to have money I guess.

[@Enemisses]

Was a NEET for about 10 years. In some ways it was worth it, having all the time in the world to play videogames and such was great. But eventually it gets old, I'd always go through cycles where I'd get bored of everything and fall into a major depressive episode until I found something new to pull me out of it or until I regained interest in the usual suspects. It also wasn't worth it. You can't do it forever, and while I'm in an okay place now, that isn't a guarantee for anyone, it's hard to find a job when you have years and years of gaps - and the ones that will hire you are meat grinders that have insane turnover so you'll just be miserable. I work 40ish hours a week now and I find there's still time for games, and yeah it sucks I can't just sit on the PC and play for 12 hours a day anymore. But on the flip side, my mental and physical health has never been better. I still have depression issues, but I've not had a 'major episode' for over 2 years, I can actually support my favorite devs by buying their games instead of pirating them, and it does feel a lot better spending the free time I do have than it did having all day every day. My advice to any fellows out there struggling - it's hard to say if depression causes 'NEETness' or if being a NEET is a result of depression, very chicken and egg there, but try and break the cycle and get out there and do something (It doesn't *have* to be a job - if you can't do that yet, then try and do something thats meaningful IRL). Yeah, our capitalist society is hell, I still fully believe that. But if you can beat that inertia holding you back, you might see your entire life and perspective change very quickly.

[@veirant5004]

Slang got to the everlasting terms we had for decades: in my language it would be нахлебник, приживальщик/приживал, дармоед, халявщик, тунеядец, бездельник, паразит, for English - sponger and freeloader. Feels completely different and delivers the right level of pride's infringement, which the majority must be deserving. You always may become a low grade worker, earning not much but this should not necessarily be taken as a humiliation - on the contrary, you would have much more respect than those who are not even up to such a thing. So, keep it up, friend.

[@Carriro]

this comment was literally me, i started working over a year ago and almost all of my anxieties have gone and ive gained a ton of confidence break the cycle lads

[@shedontlove8490]

The reason it's not good to be NEET is that left alone with your bad habits without any help from outside, you will inevitably come to self-destruction. Nothing pleases you anymore after a while, and it all quickly becomes a chore. You're starting to become afraid of people, being reclusive and afraid to leave the house, don't want to do anything, and all you want to do is lie in bed or sleep, becoming apathetic and very depressed person, feel permanently tired and at one point, i even became suicidal. I speak from my own personal experience, so it may not have been quite the same for someone else. It was a hellish experience, and I don't want to go back to that kind of life. I wouldn't even wish anyone to go through that. Working a soul-sucking corporate job for money is awful, but being NEET is many times more awful than that.

[@forman208]

Yeah, they're both bad choices, but literally doing NOTHING with your life while having to rely solely on your parents as an adult is a miserable existence, even worse than working 40+ hours a week.

[@aceomega8575]

Throw in todays job market and you have a generation of truly lost individuals who've tried and got nowhere. It's not easy at all being a hyper aware individual who had no motivators as a kid up until adulthood to do anything. You succumb to your reclusive habits and fantasize about living in the woods away from everyone, if you're not raised in a nourishing environment or somehow gain the mental fortitude to change and "get with the program" you die in one of three ways. Physically, spiritually, emotionally. People need one good friend, one good skill, one perspective to make this very bleak life worth living.

[@ABDStillLegit]

Quite possibly the greatest PSA for those living with no purpose, no responsibility. I think the greatest thing I learned in my mid- to late-20s is that you need to embrace struggle and discomfort WITH MEANING (ie. towards something of value). Even now, in university and working, I remind myself that no stress or sacrifice felt when striving toward something is more painful than being stuck in a boring, futureless job. I've never felt anything more close to death than stagnation.

[@Kenji-117]

I am literally stuck between being a NEET and doing a Job that doesnt pay me enough for the amount of sh*t and responsibility i have to go through. I lost this job 3 months ago and the funny part is that i immediatly felt the flame of ambition within me to go working out, eating nutritious and maybe do some martial arts in the future. Then, 3 weeks ago my company called me because they wanted me to return and they wanted to grant me an easy re-entering programm but i honestly feel so horrified when i think about this job and even my former colleagues think about quitting and they told me not to rejoin if i want to keep my sanity but i also dont want to be jobless. All i can do now is either start doing school and university maybe with the risk of failing (5-6 years without income), starting a new apprenticeship (3years with low income) or find another job in the branche which is the same torture...

[@cupboardofcheese1529]

How are things now?

[@Kaiji...]

Depends on the person. I'm sure there's a NEET who's played WoW or something for a decade straight and still loves every second. Others might breakdown at a single week without social interaction. It varies, everyone is different.

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

watching Kaiji is the most sure-fire way of breaking out of neetdom

[@scythermantis]

Yeah it is the other side of the coin to NHK ni Youkoso I guess

[@Marxist-Nixonist-Bidenist]

Yep Asmongold. Though he does make money from streaming now.

[@Anonym-yr4qn]

It's good to see someone pointing this out.

[@erenyeager6668]

yeah exactly, why do people care if others are "not contributing to society"

[@marvinlang3777]

As a NEET since 2022 its the greatest thing ever. Yes initially you feel bad but then you start working on yourself. U start working out u quit the weed, the cigs. Then delete social media. U can start reading go on runs. Start writing that book. Journal. Go on walks. I even volunteer at 2 places for some rhythm. If you guys would just work on yourself instead of being a shortterm pleasure demon you wouldnt get depressed and life has meaning

[@roaming740]

so how do you survive

[@jonpilledsingledad]

I struggle with employment. I wasn't always this way, I worked one too many 70 hour weeks for people who thought I was dirt. I feel like a loser but I also felt like a loser working as a yes man at whatever factory or retail place. Ive tried several times in the past two years but I am exhausted within two months every time. People simply not showing up to relieve me, managers dodging my phone calls when I try to ask them why I got 50 hours for my part time job this week, hell when I was working at a hotel I had one zoomer make guests wait for hours for me to come in because she "wasn't good at confrontation." I am a good worker and I dont mind putting in extra time if its needed but all I do is cover for others laziness while they take credit for it. Unskilled labor in america is literally throwing yourself into a slave class.

[@firstlast8258]

Boo hoo

[@jonpilledsingledad]

@@firstlast8258 Yeah its that kind of attitude that caused riots the whole summer, the continuation of widespread unemployment after covid and therefore the increase in price of goods. You have a solution other than shit sucks? because if you're going to be nothing but reductive then itd be better to just shut the fuck up.

[@TheTalentedTrout]

That line about the system wanting the workers to die early into/before retirement due to being overworked for ~40 years to make ends meet is so true. That is absolutely the case for a growing proportion of the working class. I’m very glad I’m fortunate enough that I should be able to consider retirement in my early 50s providing all goes to plan.

[@BoleDaPole]

They want us to die early but not too early. Those last 10 years of life are VERY profitable for the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

[@mrhumpback5946]

I still remember sleeping in a van as a NEET, feeling uneasy as gunshots could be heard at night through the van windows. I had a primitive battery to wire set up for an exhaust fan in the van so I wouldn't die of heat stroke in my sleep. I had no license, no registration, no insurance and I was constantly at risk of being arrested or confronted by thieves. I kept a Glock pistol under my cots pillow and often contemplated using it on myself. I was so socially distraught I could only envision my life as a reclusive survivalist in the wildness away from society but I had no means to do so without going to prison (you must buy the land). I was running from the inability to reintegrate into society after military service. Eventually got so bad I had to spend weeks in a mental institution. That was the turning point for my life. I have a marriage and kids, things are alot better now. Working on a better job, moving out to a psychedelic friendly state to try and undo the damage SSRIs have done to me. Don't give up anons, things will get really god damn bad before they get better but the point is that if you get sick of drowning; you will eventually learn how to swim.

[@kimkim02091987]

i am neet for 3years. after graduated im searching for a job over 2 years and didn’t receive any. i give up and live with my parent. just like this video, at first it is fun. after 1 years, the anxiety about future came. after 2years i’m in depression, opening facebook and see all my friend achieve something and even started family. i feel i can’t do anything since i’m so far left behind. i can’t compete with fresh graduate. at year 3, my father got heart attack. he is bedridden. thats is my pushed. i started as security till now. even im not success like my friend, i’m glad i take the first step. i manage to paid all my study debt and all the money i borrowed. im still owned nothing, but im happy now.

[@audaxo]

same thing happened to me except my father got cancer.

[@anton_c8gur]

it only took me 3 weeks to get in the depression stage after resigning my previous work

[@Anika9691]

So great thqt yoy are doing better niw

[@elvitricidaelvitricida5633]

I was a NEET for 10 years and it was a great time

[@Taunteur]

Did you find a job since?

[@gerythionargarys7848]

I hate working and I hate not working. It's a lose/lose situation for me.

[@MttSls]

Same

[@doom5895]

life sucks all systems suck, capitalism, communism, inbetween, all suck

[@JustinLewis7326]

I hate being a wage slave

[@K.Marx48]

yep

[@LordFantasthick]

It's okay to be a NEET for a couple of years. So many young people, including me, had no idea what to do with their lives after being done with school. And then you start doing things you don't like, having a job that you hate, only because everyone around you is getting a job or goes to a university. It's okay to take a break as long as it helps you to figure our who you are and where you want to be.

[@s0nnyburnett]

You can figure that out while you work otherwise you just wind up a few years behind everyone else and don't get invited to do things they know you can't afford to do because you are an income bracket down from them when you didn't have to be. Truth is no one can really tell you what work is going to be like because industries change and individual companies and places do thing differently so the only real way to know is to work there and feel if it's right for you or not and sitting around won't help.

[@ex7229]

Its not okay. A couple years times a million men is millions of years lost. Its not normal and its bad for young men.

[@danNo_nin0]

Yup. Most people confuse movement with improvement. Nothing farther than the truth.

[@LoLgAmEsViNz]

I disagree, sitting around won't actually be productive. You need to get yourself out there, experience jobs, failures, get experiences you can then base your judgement on. Otherwise you would just be dreaming.

[@danNo_nin0]

@@LoLgAmEsViNz Totally agree. Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant that movement NOT ALWAYS or NOT NECESSARILY equals improvement. But yeah, there'll be times you actually will get somewhere and others, well...guess we all chase our own tails from time to time 🤷‍♂️

[@knote4958]

It's definitely an easy trap to fall into. On the one hand, many jobs out there are soul-sucking, take a lot of your time, and in the end only pay enough for you to get by instead of actually getting ahead. On the other, you risk taking out huge non-expungible loans to get an education for a career that will either fall short of the industry expectations for that career, or that career will get devalued all the way down to minimum wage like many career paths have already. We're kind of at a fucked point, the golden age of getting good at a job and working your way up the ranks is dead and gone.

[@blakebethel3757]

Dude, you still amaze me at how you are able to hit all the best points about internet culture and your videos are so well made despite its simplicity. Your dialogue is what really adds the value to these videos. These are amazing and you're helping a lot of people out with these videos, including me.

[@AKRXI]

0:16 looks like every HR woman i've met

[@NPCNPCB]

I NEET because work will never bring me the materialistic desires I truly want. It's like starting a journey of 1000 miles knowing you die 600 miles in.

[@Kipliw]

Same dude, i was like "okay, can we skip all this bullshit in life to the part where i am dead?"

[@matro2]

@@Kipliw I know this feel well.

[@Danuxsy]

People in the future will look back at our era in horror like: "What?! They had to do something they hated for 40 hours a week their entire life? GOSH glad I wasn't born back then!", mark my words lol

[@Toxic2T]

@@Danuxsy Truth.

[@guuh5772]

Bros just lazy

[@kodenano3487]

I was a NEET from 2019- feb 2020 just after university. It's soul destroying was extremely depressed, rapid weight gain and then I got a job and while I still have a long way to go I feel much better and even bought my own place.

[@rosehipp]

I've went to college at 18 and stayed in a male dormitory with 6 other men, stayed in friends house sometimes, stopped playing video games and started going to gym, reading books, looking after myself and living a more Stoic life. Had multiple relationships with pretty, talented girls and made great friends. My problem is that I neglected my studies and I couldn't graduate, now I'm in my fifth year of college, but I've stayed way too long in my parents house this year and I went back to where I started in 6 months of staying with parents. I'm not even mentioning the pandemic era. Living in a shitty apartment with 3 other guys working at a cafe shop part-time for me is definitely ten times better than living comfortably in your parents house with regrets and reality waiting down the road for you. Maybe that's just me, I simply believe discomfort makes you grow harder and stronger than anything. I'm going back to my job and college house in a week with some friends, found a job and will rejoin gym. Good luck to everyone, hope I can finish college this year and make something of myself.

[@firstlast8258]

Anything is better then being homeless

[@DvDick]

I vibe a lot with this. Living with your parents is so damn limiting, it almost drives me nuts. It's not even that my parents are strict, it's because by its very nature you can't have much freedom with them unless they treat you like a ghost (in which case they are bad parents).

[@98maplestory]

You treat the gym like a cult lmao.

[@watermang1680]

@@98maplestory he only mentioned the gym twice, lift those fat flaps off your eyes buddy.

[@Orange_Swirl]

@@firstlast8258 disagree, honestly.

[@Tubeytime]

I was a NEET during the 2020 pandemic for 6 months, that was the best year of my life. I truly needed a break from working to just examine myself and figure out what I want.

[@threat718]

Alot of people were my homie. i was aswell. Mine lasted 2 years. I finally rebuilt myself up, stronger than ever. Felt soul crushing being a NEET.

[@リンゴ酢-b8g]

i personally loved the pandemic. a lot of things were made available for free on the internet and extended trial periods were granted galore. also no one on the street, everyone scared shitless of a supposedly super virus making the rounds, killing everyone. peace. silence. serenity. i hadn't experienced them in a long time. on tv they didn't talk of anything but corona virus. more cases detected! people need to stay home! the vax! but that never bothered me. my tv is shelved, only occasionally deployed to play the snes or N64. or to hook up the dvd player. i haven't watched anything on it since 1999

[@Tubeytime]

@@リンゴ酢-b8g It was a golden time. And yes, tv needs to die faster

[@awinski7988]

I am NEET for 4 years "Tambay" in Filipino, since i graduated in high school i did not get long on my job, anyway NEET is like a japanese culture of "Hikikoromi"

[@Danuxsy]

It's easy to satisfy the brain, people have this wild idea that you must be working to be happy, that is not true, not even close.

[@aLatios]

Describing work as slavery I feel offers a good perspective to those who work way too much for too little, but it also is extremely minimizing of what work CAN be. A job can be a place where, sure, you do redundant and sometimes monotonous tasks for questionably proper compensation, but it’s also the main place where I talk to other people, gain skills in something, get exposed to different ways of solving problems and overcoming problems, etc. Many would describe my job in the Navy as “slavery” and “selling my body to the government”, which definitely has some merit, but oh my god, I’ve never had so many friends my age in my life as I did on that ship. Never laughed so hard with a group of people as we’re working on some project. Never learned so much about how things work in the real world. If I didn’t have work I’d have nothing substantial in my life and I truly believe that

[@vOcHaZOv]

There is nothing wrong with being a NEET, but you have a real big problem if you don't spend your time on your hobbies, or finding a new job, or improving your skills, or getting fit.

[@fbyi2940]

Getting fit for what?

[@ex7229]

Everything is wrong with it unless you are actually disabled. None of this new leftists bs disabled.

[@danielboone8256]

Ah, well then your working for things other than money. Take monks for example, they don’t really have a job per se, but they’re certainly not NEETS.

[@law_9840]

So if I'm a ripped neet is ok?

[@danielboone8256]

@@law_9840 You should still get a job, education, training, or at least focus on important hobbies/skills.

[@smoothcriminal2142]

Been a NEET for close to a decade now. was by no means the original plan but a family emergency (friendly reminder that poisonous spiders are poisonous) kinda derailed everything. also nearly blind and feel fortunate i can devote as much time to hobbies as i do while the eyes are still serviceable. gaming is, likely to the surprise of no one, my main hobby but i also swim, run and play Go casually. the trick to not being consumed by boredom with this ...lifestyle(?) is to still set goals for your hobbies and not just mindlessly exist in the moment. First thing i'ma do when the eyesight finally goes is play through darksouls again and see how far i can get on hearing, memory and a metric ton of prisim stones. something to look forward to!

[@inquisitorkrieger8171]

Being a neet only sucks when you're broke. Other than that it's great! The anxiety comes from having no income when you need it. That is the profound mystery.

[@Trauson]

Ive also had my Hikikomori Phase in my life but things were different... you need to cope with a lot of stuff and at the moment I can maybe argue that im in a NEET like situation... im getting benefits from the goverment and im trying to aim for the same job I had previously. Ive been 3 months in this and sometimes with the goverment paying I have the feeling I just want to stay as if for now... but I rather want to find the same type of job just because I can feel in my soul I dont want to kill myself. So I can relate a lot to what its been said in this video because I am like a NEET and ive had my own phase as well. But whenever you do something for yourself in your life. Is the most gratifing stuff you can ever imagine.

[@thomas.thomas]

stay strong, some NEETs like in this video argue that a job *might* make you depressed and burned out, but being a NEET *will definitely* make you feel horrible

[@deltaxcd]

@@thomas.thomas depends on specific person like Peterson said this mostly affects conservatives. liberals are usually fine.

[@thomas.thomas]

@@deltaxcd except they often aren't Peterson also said that liberals don't have any meaning in their work and life and therefore are turning to moralization and well.. being even more liberal and political about it. they will make politics their duty and purpose because they didn't do it by prioritising family and work

[@deltaxcd]

​@@thomas.thomas It was not about political issues it is more about the fact that conservatives have low IQ and need clear rules on what to do as peterson explained those people cant even exist without purpose and work. they are fine doing boing jobs for years without any desire of change liberals are usually much smarter and they will use their intelligence to avoid work and they get bored very quickly.

[@Trauson]

@@thomas.thomas Obviously I am not planning to stay this forever. But once you experience something more like the stuff you have been doing for years for fun you obviously want to get back into that line of work as quick as possible. But I can tell it is tempting to just let yourself comply to this... Also in a sense because of my previous work they wouldnt allow me to work in most entry jobs in the country anymore because I percieve they might say im over qualified. I did not study yet I was in an apprentenship. I tried to apply part time in my nearbie supermarkets but none of them went through the application. So im still here 5:37 AM where I live and sending more cvs so Early in the morning whenever the people responsible for hiring personel get back into the office my emails would be the first ones to read.

[@wend7415]

I've been a neet for 3 years now, and i truly curse my life and my inabillity to perform like a normal human. I lived in a neglectful household in a third world country, I have absolutely no meaningful relationship with other people, I have a disfigured facial structure, I have no college education nor any hard skill. Somehow I developed ME/CFS thus making me physically unable to work a lot of jobs on my level even if I wanted to. The longer i stared at the abyss, the more it stares at me. All I hear every night is the laughter of people as they judge a subhuman like me, the constant nagging of my parents, and the the abyss convincing me to end everything. I want to make it stop, i want to become a human I'm sorry to whoever is reading this, i'm sure you don't want to see the same edgy and whiny vent bloating up the comment section, but i can't help but let this off my chest

[@AsgardTheFatcel]

I also developed CFS but as a consequence of SSRI withdrawal (I was forced to take SSRIs by my own parents). I have pain all over my skin all day, as well as lots of pain sensitivity and garbage interrupted sleep along with debilitating fatigue (slurred speech).

[@user15121lIlIIll]

I was a neet when I turned 18 for a year, I quit my job and lived in my mom's house without looking for a new job and without paying for anything. Now I'm almost 20 and just got a job and moved out of my mom's house and it feels good

[@98maplestory]

I was a neet for 2 years i liked it. I studied coding on the side. And overall just enjoyed life. There were nothing special happening. Most days feelt the same. But it was okay. Working now atm and just taking everyday as it comes. Its all about mindset.

[@karma-eq3pd]

I been rotting in my room for 2 years and i still am rn. I cant direct my life. My engish teacher on the last year i dropped out of year 12 said "its like youre on a boat thats swaying and letting it lead you with no sense of direction." She was right.

[@fii7009]

Thats fucking me

[@karma-eq3pd]

@@fii7009 atleast we aren't alone fr

[@fii7009]

@@karma-eq3pd xd

[@Brian-nn1tf]

@@karma-eq3pdjoin the Air Force or if u don’t qualify go Army

[@Chris-fh3qv]

I have been a NEET on and off for years. It's a double edged sword. On one hand, you get the freedom, time and space to do whatever you want, finances permitting. On the other hand, you are killing your potential, ambition, and direction in life with every passing month. Slowing down or just stopping completely to become a NEET is ok. As long as it is done with the intention to not always be one. Barrelling forward in life with little time or head space to think can lead to stupid long-term decisions all in the pursuit of forward momentum. It's ok to sit, rest and then check the map again to see where you want to go next.

[@chunkymilk]

yes, it was worth it.

[@LeCatt0]

no it's not worth it

[@lattefreddo]

i've been there. Trust me guys there is a way out but it all have to start from your habits. Start your routine, even if you have no reason to, set an alarm to wake up at a reasonable time in the morning ad do your bed, have a shower, have breakfast. If you are neet you need to start from something and somewhere so don't be afraid to look for humble jobs even part time but better than nothing, don't compare yourself to others, dont consider exuses from friends in the same situation. You wont believe ( literally you can't when you're not in that mindset) how much your mental health will improve just from a routine and from a little job, no matter how humble. Add the gym to all this, just trust me. You'll see opportunities that you couldnt even consider before, you'll start to enjoy life more, just be a little patient and you'll see. In few years you'll raelly feel in control of your life and believe me, the world will notice. Have faith my brothers, you CAN do this.

[@dudeistpreist5721]

Spent 2 years in cc. Spent 2 year unemployed trying to get a job during lockdowns and it was horrible. Been working at a night shift for a year and wish I could get something a bit better. I want a home, a car, and a good stable job. I want a family, a hobby, and some meaning. I hate what's happened to us.

[@christhiancosta1844]

Watching this as someone how ended up in kinda this situation is painful I really want to do better, but no skills, no experience it's really hard to find a job and concluding college is so far away...

[@firstlast8258]

Nobody said life was easy

[@reddede2356]

@@firstlast8258 Buba

[@hex8387]

Don't give up man, you can get through it. I'm sure there are people that believe in you and want you to succeed. You can do it

[@juliel4286]

I wasn’t a NEET, but dependent on my parents for living expenses for 3 years of university and hated it. I admit that I’m privileged to have had this opportunity though. Nothing is better than supporting oneself, even if it takes being a wagecuck. I’m now a grad student living off a below average stipend and a minimum wage tutoring job, but I’m happier now than I’ve ever been.

[@Torgo1969]

Living with dignity makes one happy.

[@soheal3674]

dw once you graduate you will make $$

[@juliel4286]

@@soheal3674 thank you :’)

[@juliel4286]

@@Torgo1969 for sure!

[@juliel4286]

@@GH23d7sL45 congrats! Hope it gets better from here

[@mateuszbanaszak4671]

As our wise man once said : "You just want to eat and live!" This way of life sounds fun... For first few mouths? Years? How long this journey would take before you realize you just walked in the middle of void?

[@tescobakery1927]

Embrace the void

[@firstlast8258]

Eating to live or living to eat

[@KamenKami]

@@tescobakery1927 I am the void. The void that is a fool who though it was human. Behind my mask is no face, no form. Just nothing.

[@martinrose6357]

Eventually, a job is just a distraction from death either way. Once you face your mortality, you realise no title or "meaning" in any job you have can save you from that fear of dying. I honestly have no idea how people with cancer can show up to work and put on a mask. It's horrible

[@CLOYO]

@@martinrose6357 This. Ignorance is bliss I guess. It hurts.

[@berniekatzroy]

Always a good conversation, at first its ok when you leave a job to search for something better or if you've been laid off. The free time is great, then you realize a week to a month has gone by with no prospects. There are those who will just bum around before really putting in an effort to find something. You see them and think its better to get out of this trap.

[@firstlast8258]

Speak for yourself

[@ghosthunter7258]

Some people don't have a chance at success don't force your own success on other people

[@berniekatzroy]

@@ghosthunter7258 can't say I have had major success, I just keep trying.

[@ghosthunter7258]

@@berniekatzroy some people have tried in this awful world and it never works for them I don't blame some people for giving up u either die as someone with no money but more freedom or u work yourself to death and u stay in a God awful slave circle caused by the government slavery didn't end it just took another form

[@berniekatzroy]

@@ghosthunter7258 trust me I get that. However, I'd rather exhaust every option I have.

[@blood_rose_queen]

Let's be honest, being NEET is excellent, the problem is not having money. You will feel bad and empty only if you can't do anything fun (and yes, video games and internet all day get old really quickly). Also, stopping to work out and get along with people is quite bad, and having money quickly fix both. That's the exact reason why not working at all is so common among people born rich

[@p.muskett2931]

Exactly, if you’re athletic and social it’s really great

[@oscarbear7498]

If you have a hobby or interesting skill your working on, being a neet is very good. You can quickly master anything, the trick is to have photos of your slave job and look at them... remember how much you wished you had free tike to learn other things... wish granted

[@NUFCOfficial]

Video games are so boring even when you don't play them all day every day. Short term gratification is so boring I would rather have long term gratification through working hard at school and getting really good grades or working hard on my body so I'm more athletic and long term breaking PRs in the gym.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

hop on wellfare

[@hwanniggles187]

​@@NUFCOfficial ? video games arent short term gratifications at the current level they are developed. they are practically virtual experiences at this point (the good ones anyway, usually the ones developed by Sony or Nintendo)

[@FrayedLisu]

During the prolonged NEET when I was making a living from single jobs for a day or three, I was fortunate enough to develop my interest in making post-apo costumes. They didn't require expensive materials or tools, and they got better and better over time, and it was while I was NEET that I made the most progress. That was several years ago, and I've changed jobs several times since then. Now I work in a factory, but after work in my free time I create all the time and my costumes are good enough to make money from them. If I wanted to I could support myself by just making costumes by renting a small room and eating frugally but I don't want to. I'd rather rent a one-room apartment, work full time and make costumes all the time until I can make a decent living from them. NEET is like falling-it's only up to you whether you crash to the bottom or use the momentum to soar higher.

[@firstlast8258]

Easier said then done

[@ApollonianSoldier]

@@firstlast8258 he literally did it tho. And Ive done the same with creating ttrpg content. Even if you arent wage slaving, you can develop a skill. Havent wage slaved a day since 4 years, still developed a skill and learning a new language. You have near infinite power with the internet and free time.

[@CLOYO]

Wonderful story my guy (?)

[@FrayedLisu]

@@CLOYO Yes, i'm man. Now the only thing I had to fight with was obesity- unfortunately, through depression I was eating sadness and gained 40 kilos.

[@firstlast8258]

@@ApollonianSoldier speak for yourself 🤓🖕

[@werinter]

I'm a kinda NEET myself too.. Actually I have a job but it's ridiculously low paying no matter I have a university degree too. I live with my parents and have some friend, but no girlfriend and no purpose of life. I had both in the past but now (about since 3 years) I have nothing to live for. I get up at 6 in the weekdays go to my workplace, sit there for 8 hours, playing games on my computer, watching youtube or netflix and then go home and continue these things. On weekends I usually go to a bar or one of my friend's house and drink. Then it all start again. I tried to get a normal job, but I wasn't hired anywhere. I don't get it why. I know a lot of people with much lower qualification than me and have better, normal or even good paying jobs. But the worst and actual thing is I just can't break up with this lifestyle. It became too comfortable and carefree. I don't have to worry about bills, food, housing etc. This little money more than enough for my hobbies but not to live on my own and start a family.

[@B_-.-]

I knew in my teens that I wouldn't handle a job well, to the point I was sure I'd die by my own hands. 2 years in I had been completely broken for a few months. Friends noticed I was withdrawing, family noticed, everyone noticed. I started to feel death was a good exit but snapped myself out of it and quit instead. I've been a NEET for about 3 months now. My family told me they believe I have ADHD, and professionals I've spoken to have agreed, but getting a real assessment is hard. If I do have ADHD, this impossibility of coping with doing the same thing everyday may not be a trait I can remove (Something I've been trying to do for ages) For the first month, It was the first time I hadn't thought about work, college, or school all my life. It was bliss. But once you've pissed about, gone on a couple of adventures, whatever, and the money starts to run dry, it isn't fun anymore. I don't think I will be able to advance my career meaningfully until I receive some proper advice or treatment about what's going on in my head. But I am now looking for a job again because that could be a long way off and I don't want to sit doing nothing anymore. I have also made some meaningful advances towards freelancing things I actually enjoy doing, but no money yet sadly (and I am willing to admit there wont be for a while)

[@Mazxlol]

I worked many years for high salary and eventually realized it was all for nothing. Money didn't bring me happiness at all. The job was soul crushing too. All jobs are really. It's all pointless. I wish I could live with my parents. I think jobs just keep us distracted from how shit life on this planet really is.

[@Computeron36]

not all jobs. Consider the shitty taxes from shitty government. Imagine how much money you have without taxes.

[@dimasakbar7668]

Now imagine that shit life, but without that salary, in a concrete jungle with few public facility. Thats what it means to be NEET, yet not homesteading, without mooching of others.

[@Mazxlol]

@@Computeron36 yeah I paid at least 30-35% in taxes... And where did that money go? Some politicians pocket cuz it sure as hell didn't go to road repair.

[@Mazxlol]

@Olivier Lazure good for you. Glad you have some things that interest you. The only type of job that I could tolerate are being self employed - so I can not work if I don't want to and not have a boss

[@Mazxlol]

@Olivier Lazure I've worked as a waiter before and really disliked it, my back and legs would hurt every day. It was an extremely difficult job that paid pennies. Anyway, you are lucky that you found peace with it, personally I could (or would) never do it again. On the other hand sitting in the office was also annoying, instead of getting tired physically my brains were going to explode (even though my manager was a decent guy). I think just working in general makes me unhappy. I think if you operate your own business eventually you can hire someone to manage it for you and all you gotta do is check on it here and there to make sure everything is good

[@phatoume227]

This is the opposite of my situation, I tried doing a scholarship to get to community college and get away from my parents, who were taking advantage of me. I was really weak and didn't finish the requirements in time because of covid, making the whole ordeal pointless. I tried to use the financial aid I got from trying to apply for the scholarships and had to drop out of every class 2 semesters in a row, even while working part time. I could hardly stand up while working, and I couldn't stay awake for online classes, or sleep afterwards for work. Now I'm with My Aunties who are helping to support me, and I'm working fulltime to pay for Community college again. I just started, and even with the monotony of work and the strain of school, I never lost focus of my goals, and I think about them during the fullest and hardest of times to get through things. Don't be still, you will fade away into nothing. Move, feel the sting of pain from your wounds, it means you're alive. Live.

[@firstlast8258]

Lots of people with college degrees working at Starbucks

[@technoeasternelf369]

@@firstlast8258 that's because they made the wrong choice of studying useless degrees.

[@firstlast8258]

@@technoeasternelf369 not all of them

[@RebelRebelLife]

At the beginning of this year, when I was going through a very hard time mentally (probably considering suicide, or something) after failing to get into a good college, you posted a video titled, "The Life Not Taken". That video really gave me a lot of hope and comfort at a time when no one was there for me. A late thanks for it. Now, You posted this video, right when I was getting comfortable with my "NEET" lifestyle. For the last 9 months I have been like this. I guess I should make some changes in my lifestyle now. &, try to get in a college again in next session. Thanks, man, for being here for me. For giving me honest help and criticism right when I need it the most.

[@mattsawatzky5165]

I love you stranger, today is the beginning of the rest of your life❤️the deeper you are down the pit, the more amazing you are for choosing to rise above despite how hard it will be. Even if no one notices, at the end of your life YOU can respect yourself knowing you pushed forth. I am a former suicidal NEET now married with a solid job. I give all the credit to God/Jesus for helping me to land on my feet again

[@RebelRebelLife]

@@mattsawatzky5165 thanks man

[@ariesbaglari2873]

Fun fact NEET ( National Eligibility Entrance Test) is a name of medical exam in INDIA . And this exam is ****ing hard as hell.

[@GokuMcDuck]

Same as Mensa, in Spanish it refers to a dumb woman.

[@sfyn3496]

Yeah, nobody gives a duck!

[@basedtsar9440]

@@sfyn3496 yeah, being rude to a random stranger in internet will boost my dopamine and makes me feel special.

[@sfyn3496]

@@basedtsar9440 Listen Mr kind man I am Indian myself but how does being disrespectful to people boost dopamine💀.

[@basedtsar9440]

@@sfyn3496 cuz you have nothing better to do

[@WilliamMcAdams]

I've been a (relative) NEET for six years now; relative in that I have worked three of the six years for my stepfather, but it's not been "gainful" employment -- but rather familial duty. I've survived these six years on my VA Disability, after a short, but bodily destructive, stint in the Marine Corps. Some of my friends have shown envy over the years at my lifestyle, and I cannot blame them. They work 40+ hours a week to live in the same or, sometimes, worse conditions than I do. We're roughly equally well off, and equally poor. This, directly, influences my perpetual NEET cycle. As a NEET, I've been afforded the opportunity to observe the goings on around me. It's crushing watching my friends and family work so hard, and progress so little. I, as the NEET, have more money in savings than my friends -- as far as they are willing to share. I don't, necessarily, want to be a NEET -- in fact, I want to be more productive in the world -- but seeking any employment seems like a futile cause. I could get a job for the sake of having a job, but I feel as if I have peered behind the veil too much, and any job that isn't actually "gainful" (which is most, in my area) is soul crushing, due to my perception. In my life, thus far, it seems as if there is little difference in 100$ or 1000$, when you have it in your hands -- but a major difference in 100$ or 1000$ when its in the form of debt. Which, further perpetuates the NEET cycle; as my friends and family around me are all having health problems tied to their labors -- and doctors visits aren't cheap, and health insurance is too expensive. I want to do more, I want to be more... but how? I also have a family of my own to consider, and working some superfluous job wouldn't be good for my wife and child -- as I would be out of the house and unable to attend to my home affairs for 40+ hours a week, with only a few scruples in my hand to show for it. However, I have no intentions of teaching my child a "NEET lifestyle", because my situation is abnormal and not easily repeatable. I want to teach my child a sustainable way of life -- which has brought me even lower in my spirits. How do you teach your child a sustainable way of life, when 99% of the examples around you are all slipping down the tilt, slowly heading to unsustainably? And the 1% who are truly successful, became so, in the 1900's, when the economy, regulations, and job market where more accessible. Most of my elders who are successful, cannot deduce a meaningful way to recreate their success in the modern age. It really feels like we are on our own out here. Little familial support; because they have to support themselves. Little community support; because communities can't exist when everyone is only worried about themselves. Little Church support; because most of the Church Elders (God bless them) are from a time past, and don't fully understand the world today. That being said, my family, my friends, and my Church have been what has kept me sane and moving forward; and I try to return the favor when I can. It just hurts to see everyone and everything you love being taken advantage of, or abused, in such nuanced ways -- and no one seems to know how to stop it. The best, and worst, part of being a NEET has been the time I've had to observe and think.

[@Azagro]

Been a NEET for about 4 years. It was in my opinion worth it, when you detach yourself from the rat race you start asking yourself and even figuring out what it is that truly matters. During my NEET years, I had a long term girlfriend, lost my virginity, traveled to the other side of the world and found a career path I'm willing to walk for the rest of my life. Which ironically enough, is not entirely NEET. It is true, I would rather become homeless than being a wage slave. The only solution to that was to start my own businesses. So I rest completely on the success of that, where failure is not an option. All others would fall back to "oh i'll just try this for a bit then when it fails, back to my old job", a NEET has no choice. I would say embrace NEET, but only as a means to an end and most importantly, stay away from bad habits.

[@josephray9695]

This is a topic that should be touched on more with this style of humor.

[@jdf3972]

Yeah the long dialogues get boring ngl

[@shadow7988]

There was humor? These things aren't even trying to be comedic anymore, just depressing.

[@calliastah4115]

@@shadow7988 There's some small amount of humor ( such as the "was it worth it son?" ) but its mostly falls in the dark humor area.

[@danielpaulschreber2060]

I was more or less a NEET for a year and a half after finishing high school, and an education course after. It was okay for a while, but eventually you realize that you're just digging a hole for yourself. Having a job can give you a purpose, and a sense of responsibility, which I think every adult needs. Of course, you want to find a job that isn't about killing yourself for the job.

[@firstlast8258]

Not everyone can work

[@piotrgraniszewski8544]

@@firstlast8258: it's called being disabled!

[@deltaxcd]

I wonder what kind of purpose will give you job of scrubbing toilets or packing bags LOL Jobs with purpose usually don't pay enough to live alone and have fulfilled life. To have a job with purpose you need to stay with parents.

[@deltaxcd]

@@piotrgraniszewski8544 what if you don't find a proper job for your character?

[@piotrgraniszewski8544]

@@deltaxcd: I start a new game and roll for a different character. Maybe try some builds from the internet.

[@Talami771]

i worked the same job for 4 years, i was unemployed for 1 year after that job. one thing i will say about the NEET vs work life is during employment, you value ur free time more, being a NEET means you have unlimited free time and dont value it.

[@TheRubberStudiosASMR]

The weekend is meaningless when you don’t work

[@klaus6091]

slaving away for someone else is the only method to socialize and meet new people as an adult, the sad reality that is

[@forman208]

That is incredibly sad, even worse, the odds on you actually finding someone you connect with is very slim, considering the discrepancies in ages and life situations. You can choose who you hang out with at school for the most part, but you cannot choose your coworkers.

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

People are fake and only want to harm or exploit others in real life with few exceptions.

[@elliotbroadhurst7142]

Being a NEET while self-studying or investing your time into creating a music/art project and deepening your knowledge through reading is the key.

[@kotarojujo2737]

Those are actually counted as Self-Training, so you aren't NEET technically.

[@pizzariotin]

well, that wouldn't make you a NEET i guess.

[@BoleDaPole]

That's lame af. Just play video games and the lotto. Maybe you'll break out of neetdom if you're lucky, if not then the state can take care of you. It's not like you'll starve.

[@Y.0o0]

I advise all NEETS to get into skateboarding. You learn new stuff creatively, it’s another roller coaster, & it’s a physical exercise that’ll get you in shape.

[@takashi1488]

A lot of people in my country are NEETs. My older brother is NEET, my cousin’s NEET,and im a NEET. I don’t know what’s going on, but so many people are dependent on their parents in recent years. I feel ashamed to be leeching off my parents, but I don’t know how to get out of it.

[@BL-mf3jp]

Inflation + rising rent costs = more NEETs

[@arya_shm]

@@BL-mf3jp japan has low inflation

[@adrone123]

Does Christianity play a role in your life? Jesus gives rest when you are weary and strength when you are weak.

[@MJ37382]

Be proactive instead of reactive. Have the courage to do the right thing: “courage is not the absence of fear, it is the recognition of something more important.” Get a job.

[@FaultyTwo]

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Gotta find another way. To beat this unfair game.

[@tripmann268]

Things you can't do as NEET - Go on holiday - buy anyone presents - have control over your own life

[@sotch2271]

With what money do you buy anything ?

[@rixille]

Having control over your own life is not guaranteed with employment.

[@tripmann268]

@@rixille in a broad sense you're right, but I just pity the guys with years of lost potential. Here in the UK, if you're unemployed, the government will provide you enough money to simply exist, but nothing more. That's a hell of a lot of choice that is no longer available to you, from both a financial and lifestyle standpoint. Can't speak for people in other countries though

[@ForeverShadowBanned]

@@rixille It is if you're smart about it, I've saved so much money I could quit my job right now and it wouldn't affect me at all. I take time off anytime I want because my boss needs me and he knows I can just walk out. Money equals freedom, you either have it or you don't.

[@tokiwartooth4404]

I work and can't afford holidays. Can't afford presents. Has zero control of my life. The only way to make money to buy these things is debt or sell your soul for a high income job that hurts other people like being a manager. I am property of my Gov and they steal half my income by threat of violence if I din't pay the mob. I can't even go fishing without some Gov thug to police me for a yearly license. Local people on unemployment receive twice my income while I'm working for their benefit.

[@kreigthepsycho]

I wish I could be like this. I have aspirations in life, goals, wants, and other things. I know none of it will bring me happiness, but I can't stop trying to better my status in life, but I can't seem to better myself and my worldview. I wish I could just want nothing, then I'd be free. I can just rot away, devoid of want, of emotions, and somehow find some semblance of contentment in what little I have. But I can't.

[@ernie9538]

Join the Cártel.

[@mgcactus]

I've been a NEET for 3 years now, I used to be a "gifted child" but lazy at the same time, in elementary school i spend all my time drawing and doing the bare minimum effort to pass and refusing to do homework etc. One of the school staff members thought I was retarded and forced my parents to make me take an IQ test and I got like 142 even though I felt like 70 iq through most of my life and present, maybe test was rigged. high school was pretty much the same except i had to put in more effort now and replaced drawing with vidya, also I didn't do anything at home like hobbies and chores. I graduated highschool only actually doing work at school and spending most of my free time eating junk food and playing viyva. At this point I literally had no skills at all or any life experience (for example: didn't even know how to cook eggs) which backfired really hard at college. I failed college 3 times in a row over the span of like 2 years I tried different career path but didn't work out either. even though I'm a NEET now I'm working on improving my life, since I'm at home most of the time I want to take over all the chores in the house, learn to cook to be more independent and cook for my folks, hit the gym, eat healthy, leave house daily for walks, spend time you normally spent at work on productive hobbies so I stay used to the working schedule and actually learn some useful stuff(currently focusing on drawing / 3d modeling), spend some time everyday learning language.

[@vandalic8566]

your life and situation has so far been similar to mine...

[@kawi2489]

This low-key makes move my ass from couch and actually doing something. low-key 'cause i'm lazy as shit