Nemesis Electric super car | Fully Charged

My first test drive of the Nemesis electric supercar created by Ecotricity's Dale Vince.
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Fully Charged is an online show hosted by Robert Llewellyn (Red Dwarf, Scrapheap Challenge, Carpool), which looks at why we need to change how we think about energy consumption now. From looking behind the myths of renewable energy, to seeking the truth about electric cars, Robert Llewellyn demonstrates what the future could have in store for us all.

[@fullychargedshow]

@snappuppy To be fair, it is nothing like as noisy outside when the car is passing you, but it is a little bit too noisy inside. That said, the Nemesis is essentially a racing car, and it really is a very very fast car. I was driving it really carefully as we were on public roads and I'm very law abiding.

[@dismutased]

Never press the red button! He says it's a fire extinguisher when actually it's the eject button. Everyone knows that...

[@PotatoTornadoable]

God everyone bitching about the noise obviously hasn't driven a fucking 4WD down a dirt road.

[@OtisAdonisChad]

PotatoTornadoable It's the frequency and or pitch of sound. A car can be loud with loud akrapovic. This is exactly the opposite of harmony.

[@fullychargedshow]

@WestLABoy No, I wish I had the intelligence and foresight to ask that. This was a few years ago and I wasn't filming for Fully Charged, this was for 'How Do They Do It' so the environmental impact wasn't on the agenda. Figures like that would be very useful, plus realistic figures for the cost of extraction and transportation. I have heard suggestions that a realistic estimate for average ICE car is from 400g Co2 per klm upward

[@lucasskywalker]

Probably one of the coolest vids so far.

[@brycecampbell1799]

Very awesome video! Keep up the great work!

[@Smileshooter]

"regen braking doesn't make any sense". Well there's a "tiny little company" called ""Tesla"" doing some 60kW regen braking on a rearwheel driven Sedan. And it keeps the mechanical brakes unused ;)

[@fdk7014]

Indeed. Maybe it should be called "regenerative slowing down" instead. If you really need to brake hard then I guess applying most braking power on the front wheels makes sense but that's not what regen braking normally does.

[@christianpaulroldan3662]

how did you do that? talking with someone while driving fast with that annoying noise. .

[@The8BitGuy]

Wow, that car is very loud. I'd like to see it race against a gasoline car (and hopefully win!)

[@HyperbirdF6]

That sound is so cool. I think i'm falling in love. Very nice.

[@fullychargedshow]

@UNITYN And in that calculation you have it in a nutshell. It's not only that electricity is cheaper, but also the car is massively more efficient at using the energy stored in the batteries/

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

It's gear noise, probably due to straight cut racing gears. They're efficient, but noisy. Most street cars use helical cut gears which are a bit less efficient but silent.

[@Mickoes]

I kind of like the sound of it; it almost make the same sound as a plane.

[@salem42salem42]

Love love love the show - now where am I going to find a big enough brushless motor and ESC for my car ?

[@Egg-mr7np]

Just don't press the red button; always a good tip.

[@JRP3]

Nice ride. I must disagree with the idea that regen on the rear wheels is problematic in any way. It doesn't seem to bother the Tesla, and it works fine in my Fiero conversion. Most of the time I don't need to use the brakes at all.

[@fullychargedshow]

@BatmanBSD You may have a point, I am a big fan of what Tesla are doing, however, to call the Nemesis a 'rough prototype' is a little cruel, it was exactly that last year, it's now a very well finished, beautifully engineered and amazingly fast car. I wish I had the time/budget to shoot a better show about it, about what they've done to make it work so well, One day.

[@JohnCBriggs]

As a "personal project" this thing is awesome. However, as production ready EVs are nearly here on the market, we are all expecting more out of them. "Just don't press the red button." I thought he was joking at first.

[@DanFrederiksen]

btw the thing about regen not making sense on the rear wheels because you need strong braking at the front is just not true. it's true that the strongest braking will normally be on the front wheels but not every braking is an emergency braking

[@TBman256]

@Redshift21 It's still a prototype though right?

[@Planet_Brent]

In your talk with the refinery, did a number for kWh per liter of petrol refined ever come up? This is a number I've been dying to get my hands on. I've heard so many different figures over the years that my head is spinning. The latest, from Nissan at 7.5 kWh / U.S. gallon, doesn't seem to have any support behind it, although its the one some people are using as definitive.

[@rcclassicsuk9899]

Car sounds great but there are times in the video when subtitles would have been useful! 😁

[@DanFrederiksen]

I like the idea of two motor drive and belt too if they have longer life and higher efficiency than chain drive. the car could probably do with a bit of sound insulation though. and despite the image of lotus as a lean car maker (which they have foolishly declared war on now) I think a car can be made much lighter still.

[@specallez]

This sounds like a car out of the movie "downstream" :) Nice job!

[@kaieteurdevon]

Wow what a car! What an achievement, this beats any petrol car hands down for the simple reason it doesn’t use any petrol! Excellent. Powered by the Wind! The sound it makes is soo Batman. I look forward to MK2 production version.

[@ctrlbru]

@UNITYN ...and, tell me if I'm wrong, same distance at £5.50 means you have to stop and refill 5 times. If you have to stop for let's say 4 hours to charge (and I think it's more), you are 20 hours late, supposing you travel at the same speed. Perfect :)

[@MrChrisRab]

The car is supposed to be sold for about the same price as a Ferrari. So it's a bit expensive for me. However, it is a very very cool car. One thing which could make it even cooler is to have a metal or hardened plastic cover over the red button, kinda of like the ones they have in fighter jets to launch missiles. That would be AWESOME!

[@RishabhGKoenigseggRegera]

Am I the only one that actually loves this noise?

[@wnynj1213]

Rishabh G i think so

[@dankbeast9013]

Rishabh G nah I like it lmao

[@m1aws]

@UNITYN Hey buddy, don't forget to add all the oil, filter, plugs belts, and other service costs of a normal motor for your mileage then they make even more sense.

[@_Piers_]

I'd not heard of "Ecotricity" before...If you haven't either go look them up on Wiki :)

[@effyleven]

I like Fully Charged, but gave up half way through this episode. I'd had as much of that nasty whine as I could stand.

[@HungryGreeny]

There is very little chanse that my post will be answered, but why this car has "neutral" position on it's selector? Since it don't have regen, i think neutral don't make any sense, exept if this car have a "creep" function, because it seems like in the car without regen or creep "released throttle" = "neutral". Same thing in Twizy.

[@surojitpatra7548]

This car is so cool & eco friendly I like to drive this car its awesome

[@KuraIthys]

Hmm. This probably shouldn't be a huge surprise, but that motor sound reminds me of electric trains. And high-speed trains in particular make some fascinating sounds. (but the really interesting sounds apparently have to do with thyristors, rather than electric motors.

[@greyareaRK1]

I didn't quite catch that: is it a modified sports car, or an original design from the ground up? It's gorgeous either way. I grew up with electric wheelchairs, and maybe because of that I don't find the sound that appealing. More sound insulation would help, but it would be cooler to mutate that sound into something sexier, analogous to the way they do it with combustion engine mufflers. Meanwhile, there are filters that reduce the high frequency noise from soundtracks...just saying. :-)

[@m1aws]

That's gear whine from straight cut gears. Sounds awful inside but would sound like a Star Wars Tie Fighter from the outside.

[@Andronk]

It's never a good idea to have a big red button that you're not allowed to press...

[@richardmolby9189]

This car is disgustingly loud. One would need ear protection to drive any great distance. That is not acceptable.

[@christianpaulroldan3662]

Richard MolbyI think this thing is only intended for race car drivers with their helmets on. . not for everday driving. .

[@James-xr7pb]

My Westfield is worse

[@zapfanzapfan]

Bit of a nostalgic look back. Did he ever build more cars? Bit less refined than a Rimac 🙂

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

At 7:58 Dale mentions a Mark II version of the car being on the drawing board ... did that ever come about ? Has it matrialized yet ? Will it be tested ? :)

[@esk8jaimes]

I think once Tesla emerged he decided to leave it to the pros, plus they've done a lot over the past few years with Ecotalk, Ecotricity, and soon to provide Broadband. I guess it showed the car industry that electric was feasible at the time, that it could work and still give some performance.

It only takes 12 hours in the US. Induction charging works as you're driving.

[@tsport100]

The 'argument' against IC engines is simple. ICEs are only 15% energy efficient at the wheels. Think of it this way Heat = Energy and ICEs radiate enormous amounts of heat from their cooling and exhaust systems. A kWh costs approx the same be it from a fuel bowser or a wall socket. For cars with equivalent performance an EV uses 1/10th as much energy as an ICE powered car. That's purely down to the fact that ALL ICEs convert 85% of the fuel they consume into waste heat.

[@simonwhite2890]

I for one couldn't bear the racket that thing makes, obviously doesn't bother him though

[@UNITYN]

what's the charge time Robert? Dale says the pack is 36kWh to charge, at 3p per kWh (night tariff) thats about £1.08 for a full charge from zero! My car does 35mpg and costs £71.40 to fill and does around 550 mile per fill. so 108 per 100 miles equtes to roughly £5.50 for the same distance that costs me over 70 quid! 20000 miles = £3060 my car 20000 miles = £216 the nemesis Thats a saving of £2844 per year on 20k miles!

[@OysterBarron]

how many channels you got robert? The one thing that is holding the market back is price, Yes it will save you money in x ammount of years but shelling out over a 100 grand on a half decent elctric car is just not going to happen for the majority of us! in order for these cars to start selling they need to be aimed towards familys and not the high end market! they need to be practical! After that point is there any plans 4 you to go and test out the 3 electric renault cars that are due out soon?

[@Northstander]

Dale Vince is also Chairman of the coolest football club in the land...the mighty Forest Green Rovers...green cars, green energy and Forest Green!

[@brownmilkproduction9504]

rip my ears they will miss

[@Zlin0035]

Sounds like a Jet-engine made from a Turbo!

[@SoulacroupLesCombes]

Acually you're wrong. There is some recent research where they try o develop those concepts (loops under the surface of motorways etc.). In my opinion the perfect solution as you can travel long distances and reach your destination with the independent range of only 100 miles. But as I said,...it's just research in some university labs we do.

[@TecnamTwin]

The Tesla Roadster makes turbine noises at highway speeds and on hard accelerations. Overall, it is much quieter than this car and more practical for that matter. The Tesla Model S is, so far, the quietest electric car that I have ever heard. The Nissan Leaf is pretty quiet as well. This one just seems to be really loud and annoying. Some home-built electric cars also have noise problems. Production electric cars have sound engineering and rarely have noise issues.

[@_Piers_]

Hmmm...One of the problems electric cars have is that quite a few people have to drive more than their range say once a month or so. So those people generally wouldn't consider an electric car, at the moment. What if all electric cars had a standard battery expansion conector in their boot, then we could rent a battery for the weekend and have a 300mile range car when we need it...and not when we dont.

[@electrictroy2010]

>>>" Induction charging works as you're driving" How can you charge if you're not plugged in???

[@joni9780]

love it, as a biker I gotta say it needs a warning noise

[@alanpage4075]

Is that sarcasm? I ride bikes and you should be able to hear a car this loud from two blocks away

[@SuperFuzzmonkey]

Thank god the intro has changed now

[@eldictator1]

@ctrlbru What if that charge is a fast charge at 15-30mins? or JFE engineering release their5minute 80% fast charge in 2011 and car makers manufacture batteries to withstand that, then the ICE age is over

[@eldictator1]

Sounds like a tie fighter and a tron bike had a kid

[@kaieteurdevon]

Dale Vince is Batman!

[@electrictroy2010]

This noise would make me deaf (literally). Of course so too would a loud cycle or sportscar. I prefer some quiet on my hour/day commute .

[@YuriLM]

in my car it takes 2,5 hours to recharge 12kw, enough to cover 50 more miles in city...

Search for "Electric Buses Test Wireless Charging in Germany" and "Induction charging London"

[@Keithy22]

The sound is just annoying AF. I could listen to a blown big block all day no problem but this shit is for the birds !

[@sagasky]

Thing sounds like a monster.

[@rykson161]

Thought this was the Trion , Nemesis

[@JumpyGS]

Same

[@frackcha]

how far down the road will an ICE car go with an empty fuel tank? :P where do you grow the bio mass for the bio fuel? in fields where food usually grows? "Can't see electric being the future unless they find a way to recharge it while you're driving it" every heard of regenerative braking? ;)

[@GuanoLad]

Don't push the red button! The shiny shiny red button!

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

GEEZ... straight cut gears are noisy.

[@terminalfrost3645]

im deaf enough as it is, that shit will leave me completely deaf within a year lol

[@dynamiteguitar]

@UncleKennybobs at least i dont waste my time filming lights at night, shows your level of iQ

[@montacor22]

It sounds like they're driving inside a jet engine

[@wascal]

dear god that car needs some serious noise dampening.

[@StephtheVIDEOguy]

Wow Rob. This episode is way too loud and annoying. As much as it looks and seems like a sweet ride I'd hate to have to wear earplugs to drive it.

[@mattman919191]

sounds like the honda choir

[@rakeshparikh1080]

this is not trion nemesis

[@kelvinz57100]

Sounds like a plane taking off.

[@micoforion]

that thing makes terrible noise.

[@cuddles6938]

mic of orion He could add some sound deadening panels on the front bay behind the motor. The Saleen Tesla outside has an annoying noise but it is much better with sound deadening material. This would definately probably cause some kind of long term hearing damage listening to this overly loud whir all day long.

[@Altavilla22Mike]

Also 2000HP going to only 2 wheels is completely idiotic. There is no point where you would be able to go full throttle without going out of control or the electronic stability and traction control from kicking in. Why not make it AWD? Seems like a no brainer. Would probably drop the 0-100mph down to like 4 seconds

[@DavidJSmith-hl6kb]

I believe you may have the Wrong Nemesis in Mind...This 2010 Nemesis Electric Supercar in this video I believe is Built in England and only puts out about 350Hp with RWD. The 2014 Trion Nemesis Supercar will be Built in the U.S.A. and Claims 2000Hp with AWD and 0-60 is about 2.2-2.8 sec.s. BTW...currently they are asking well over 1-2 million which includes a Car and you get Stock into the Company!...Hope that info. Helps...if interested here is their website: www.trionsupercars.com ...God Bless!

[@Altavilla22Mike]

Wow, a $100000 2000HP shitbox

[@dankbeast9013]

LeadBlastin22 wrong car fam

[@onoff314]

damn you have cheap electricity in the UK

[@dynamiteguitar]

Bio fuel over electric defiantly, electric cars are bad idea because your left stranded when the batterys are flat and it takes about 12 hours to charge it again. Can't see electric being the future unless they find a way to recharge it while you're driving it

[@gamingransu9210]

Fake Trion:(

[@Mayhemm007]

I'm not a big defender of the whole engine-noise-as-aphrodisiac theory, but sorry, I think I'd drive myself off a cliff within a month if I had to listen to the Nemesis on a regular basis.

No

[@BatmanBSD]

under capitalised british braggard rides again. The bloke needs to understand that a very rough prototype is not a production ready car like the Tesla Roadster or Model S

[@esk8jaimes]

You forget this design predates the emergence of Tesla... This was designed as a custom one-off anyway.

[@BunkerBlog]

God, at this point just make it quiet. You actually made it WORSE by making that sound. And I'm of the camp that misses engine sound in an EV.

And your car is a lot slower.

[@funnyguylol69]

It sounds terrible :(

[@electrictroy2010]

My rumbly V6 is quieter than this shit car .

[@sohaibakram92]

The car is shit!