【FGO】Archetype: Earth / Arceuid Valentine's Scene - English Translation - Fate/Grand Order

[@brysene]

Archetype Earth roasting Arcueid for her antics in the Ciel route is to funny.

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

And in turn, 7:07 Arc marvels at her other selves being hopeless at making (and wondering “was I really this hopeless once?”)

[@Lilly_Fae]

I love how they all speak in a different way. makes them all distinguished despite technically being the same person

[@crash-testproductions9341]

Ayako Kawasumi, seiyuu of ALL versions of Saber Artoria : First time ?

[@flash_1440p]

So Arcueid (2nd Asc) is basically a Ritsuka x Archetype Earth(3rd Asc) shipper lmao.

[@Contreras1991]

At the end ritsuka flirt with archetype earth (arcueid) and the root (Void Shiki) xD his (or her) harem power level is off the charts

[@darius8214]

Sword of the Planet (Castoria) and True Magician Of Second Magic too.

[@quintonblackburn3916]

This is like the Piccolo/Nail/Kami scenes from DBZA, and I love it with Arceuid arguing and interacting with her other personalities. All that's missing is a pool table in her mindscape.

[@joestark_says]

OMG never expected anyone to make that reference. True, those green trio's interaction was hilarious 😂

[@doorto6152]

I need this to be canon yesterday

[@desmondmalone438]

Sitonai did the same thing too

[@cjytp]

3rd asc: I'M THREE GALS NOW! 1st and 2nd: Sup

[@El_Leviatan]

bruh that moment Arcued legit beat her other selves in an argument and their silent reaction was pretty cute

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

So you're saying I can smash Archetype: Earth? Thanks, Arcueid.

[@vorpalchoppers]

Smashing the planet you live on, truly one of the reasons for rejoicing.

[@rezafahlevi9659]

We smash an Asteroid Belt (Kukulkan) so why not smash Earth?

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@rezafahlevi9659 She come from the Oort Cloud which is more massive than a belt. By massive I mean a goddamn bubble full of asteroids and comets that surrounded the entire Solar System within.

[@sobokgaming8476]

“Hey girl, can I be the global warming to your Earth? Because I’m about to mess you up.”

[@TheKazuma410P]

​@@sobokgaming8476He's about to tear her "ozone layer". God my joke is filthy.

[@stardust8797]

“Those feelings will be none but your own” Either way with the remake routes character progression for our favorite funny vamp

[@momosan3040]

I'm honestly glad they didn't make Arcueid fall for the MC and sticked with her being loyal to Shiki , this is truly splendid.

[@samaelhyoudou1788]

The second ascension form is, the first, however implied potentially could and supported by the third ascension form

[@momosan3040]

@@samaelhyoudou1788 yes ik.

[@samaelhyoudou1788]

@@momosan3040 Honestly, I think when Arcueid see two of her counterparts, she immediately goes like: "Oh damn, another version of me! Oh no! Hell no! Do not touch my Shiki! You two just go after Master and leave my man for me alone! Take the Harem Protag and not my Shiki! Shoo, shoo!" 🤣

[@Azure70]

I consider the 3rd ascension form the better looking one. So I’m happy with this outcome

[@markandrew287]

@@samaelhyoudou1788Wait I know second ascension is still in love with Shiki and I know that the third might be able to fall in love with the MC, but what about the first ascension?

[@romanemperor3160]

The council of Arcueids, though it is missing a member.

[@meremsolomon4744]

Ixquic point of view as that of a deino either probably would give Arcueid more headache, or become the only supporter on Arcueid side, to balance out the others pov.

[@VitorAntas]

@@meremsolomon4744 not Ixquic... Rather... La Creatura...

[@meremsolomon4744]

@@VitorAntas Hey, if you want to be that serious then let's bring Red Arcueid in aswell, the Wallacia one that is. Edit: Oh, and also the Tsuki no Sango Arcueid(s) while we're at it.

[@DataNotLost]

@@meremsolomon4744 And don't forget Neco Arc to add to the chaos 😏

[@markandrew287]

WAIT SHIT NECO ARC SERVANT WOULD ACTUALLY BE SO BASED

[@darkstorm2579]

Now this is the Valentine scene I wanted to see the most. It’s interesting seeing the three ascensions interacting with each other, not to mention they all have their own way of speaking. Also, love how present Arcueid proudly declares that she knows how to make chocolate the normal way, leaving her other selves baffled (especially when she says that using their Marble Phantasm to do is cheating). Not to mention that she encourages her past (and possibly her Fate counterpart) self to make chocolate for Ritsuka, implying that she’s fine with Archetype Earth falling in love with someone else instead of Shiki.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Rather than being fine with romance, she wants her to become happy. So she will push her towards humans, especially if shiki is not in a position to be found and all she has is Chaldea

[@darkstorm2579]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Either way, Arcueid is essentially playing wingman for her younger self. I know that Arcueid is largely relegated to a guest appearance in FGO, but it would be neat to see her appear in the story, especially since she's supposed to be one of Earth's defense mechanisms (if I understand her lore right anyway). Sure if she did, she'd basically be another addition to Ristuka's harem of Servants (heck we managed to gain the affection of an alternate ORT in Lostbelt 7), but that's just how FGO is.

[@thomasschmelzer7676]

@@darkstorm2579 I mean, I'm basically seeing it as Arcueid likes Ritsuka well enough, but he isn't Shiki, so she won't love him. But Archetype and Princess are both alternates of her that have no ties to Shiki, so she's pushing them to find the same happiness she found. Obviously not with Shiki, he's HERS, but Ritsuka is a good candidate for them.

[@darkstorm2579]

@@thomasschmelzer7676 Yeah, that's kind of how I interpreted this scene.

[@kristenhall3327]

@@darkstorm2579 Yeah, the harem thing happens for the same reason ORT and Beast Nerfs happen. The story itself wouldnt be possible otherwise. Also Arc is less Earth's Defense Mechanism and more a physical vessel that the Earth can fit its soul in and interact with this level of existence. Yes that does mean Arc IS the Earth or Gaia.

[@soraadcaelum2428]

Lol, future and past are like, "WTF present?!" After hearing her talk about making chocolate with her hands

[@anonnimoose7987]

Without cheating with her marble phantasm

[@perovskitepowder8191]

I want to see a doujin where Guda and Archetype visit the Tsukihime world. Imagine the confusion when they meet with Shiki & Arc lol.

[@WildArtistsl]

It be the spider man pointing at itself meme

[@dmitriystarostin8023]

TL;DR if you ever wanted to ship Ritsuka with Archetype:Earth - your wish was granted with her 3rd ascension version. Even Arcueid herself is rooting for it

[@r.k845]

Ew

[@Usernamesdontmatter1]

If people didn't think this was going to happen when she got released they weren't paying attention to her profile. The third ascension is a Chaldea exclusive. It's only fitting she's the one who gets giddy during the valentine's event.

[@rogueascendant6611]

Nasuverse stupid sub: "THAT'S BS! ARCUEID IS ONLY TO SHIKI AND NO ONE ELSE!" "RITSUKA IS JUST A SELF-INSERT!"

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@r.k845 A-class A-HOLE

[@r.k845]

@@rogueascendant6611 none of you can actually refute anything I say.

[@kotominussy9754]

Seems like she won't share Shiki with anyone, not even herself

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

Well at least she’s very possessive of their first encounter.

[@thegreatzephyr1776]

So... Shiki got Arcueid, and Fujimaru RIZZsuka got Archetype:Earth? Now color me impressed!

[@susano.o]

Fujimaru RIZZsuka got Archtype:Earth and Arctype:ORT (kukulan) is more impressive already

[@christophermitchell9739]

I'm pretty sure there's nothing Ritsuka can't make love them, and y'know what, I'm okay with that. They stopped just being a thing for me to project onto after the OVA, anime, and movies imo.

[@KUROI6969]

And you got?!?!? (sorry)

[@Why1sThisAthing]

Shiki, Gun God and Guda are the planet fuckers trio

[@PyramidMan1174]

​@@KUROI6969 paid

[@NekoBoyeh]

Now if Tsukihime collab will be really a thing later, i really hope they'll give Arc a spiriton dress based on her Tsukihime outfits...

[@sleeperjoseph7708]

Thank you for the translations, I was looking for some after unlocking her Valentine scene. I find it cute the fact that Arcueid despite talking to herself, acts like a supportive sister towards her other selves when it comes to love.

[@beneditoneto5811]

So, summarizing, Arcueid is being a wingman and telling True Ancestor Princess and Archtype Earth to fuck Ritsuka already lmao

[@hadougodmagsarion]

@@beneditoneto5811 yeah if you cant read lol.

[@alucard9003]

That's so freaking Adorable!!! One of the best this year I might say

[@fiqihaliyudin4172]

I'am not feeling disappointed or bad or hurt or anything after throwing many sq for her but only got NP1. It's the opposite, I'm feeling lucky because at least I got her and then they throw this valentines to me. I'am really glad I have her!! Thanks @Neobenedict and Petrikow for the vids and translations.

[@ObviousHUN]

Our boi Ritsuka is on a roll! Seducing 2 TYPE-s in the span of half-a-year. Harem Protag EX ----> Cosmic Harem EX. What a frightening Strengthening. Next on the menu: Alayla, I'm counting on you Ritsuka!

[@inaciomaron699]

It's Alaya. And I agree with you.

[@ameliap3664]

this is wonderful and beautiful and lovely, I've looked at it for 10 hours now.

[@trav157]

AE feels like the younger sister to Arcueid. She reminds me of Ortlinde in a way.

[@ShadowChasoDemonz]

They kept a leash on the pandering. It simultaneously shows how special AE's fated meeting is with Shiki and the other version, characterized by their lack of understanding of humanity, just coming to understand a little of the fun of human festivity and culture.

[@madokaP2833]

Arcueid's Tsuki:Re Ascension is basically Kita Ikuyo as a vampire

[@sandwichofdoom4115]

They share VA's too!

[@arks_knights]

This is the same as with shirou, shirou gets artoria and ritsuka gets lancer artoria, shiki gets arcueid and ritsuka gets archetype: earth

[@mikesanders2500]

Not really since Guda has an Artoria harem. Ecchan, MHX, MHXX, Salter, Summer Artoria, and Castoria. Tbh it's the adult versions of Artoria that's the least into Guda

[@tuck295q]

And then some million years later, she will call all the ultimate ones to kill all of us. …Fujimaru….. you had one job!

[@HachannEinzbern]

Types are not the planets, they just are the strongest beings of the planets, and Gaia won't last that much either, at least not if we take Tsuki no Sango into account

[@tuck295q]

They are the embodiment of the planet’s will though. If I understand correctly, you can kill the ultimate ones by: 1) figure out their concept to kill them 2) use itself to kill it 3) destroy the place where they come from.

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

@@HachannEinzbernand it’s not because Gaia was angry at us, so much as it didn’t like the idea of us still living on the Earth after its death. Essentially it’s “either move elsewhere before I die or be viciously murdered!”

[@luisfillipebeserra2108]

​@@SUPERSIDESWIPERjust keep the earth alive then

[@Apt23-v8u]

Everything dies , words too is a matter of time

[@kanicunny]

The way arc speaks really resembles ikuyo lol, well not weird since they shared the same VA.

[@groundmeatier]

how is it that arcueid is the voice of reason in this video hahaha

[@orrthehunter]

the one with the most "experience" after all.

[@anonnimoose7987]

@@orrthehunter most human experience?

[@dellee4793]

@@anonnimoose7987 yes,, shes been dating shiki afterall

[@arts1628]

@@anonnimoose7987 yes she's not 'virgin' like other two

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

In all seriousness though, the reason is because she’s the closest to humanity as Arcueid. Experiencing both the ridiculousness of being killed by a human wielding a knife and subsequently falling in love with him will do that an Archetype.

[@stardust8797]

Berserk but she claims she was still in control I think that makes it worse Arcueid

[@ryuugaminetatsuma2556]

"are you a god or something" wtf are you saying Arcueid of past, you're the terminal of Gaia, wasn't your spirit origin greater than a god?

[@capetel368]

Its a figure of speech I think

[@theleechqueen]

@@capetel368 Most definitely. Arc is the Alter Ego of Earth and one of two candidates for Earth's Ultimate One along with Altrouge. She is more powerful and higher ranked than Divine Spirits and actual Gods like Quetzcoatl or even Tiamat. She is at the very top of that hierarchy.

[@capetel368]

@@theleechqueen I know

[@AngraMango]

​@@theleechqueen Yet killed by glasses boi

[@theleechqueen]

@@AngraMango Normal Arc is her in her slumber according to Ciel and Vlov. She also said she had just finished "a major job" so her resistance to death was particularly low.

[@inaciomaron699]

I wish the first ascension one had continued making the chocolate and gave it too.

[@kenjivsthewrld]

To make everyone happy (including the you know whos) You(Guda) can smash Earth. Shiki can smash the Lady. Understand? Good.

[@williambenedictalava2634]

Noice got a go signal now.

[@rogueascendant6611]

Not enough. You'll still get some pointless BS like from Saberfaces Fate stay night side.

[@SpideyfanX]

You can also Smash True Ancestor Princess. 2 for the price of one

[@KUROI6969]

This is like that scene on the Kaguya sama xD

[@crimsonphoenix8907]

we are definitely getting 3rd ascension archetype earth in a story chapter, she’s too cute not to include Nasu!

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Nah. She's just a guest

[@babanbo-sama2072]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Her parallel self showed up in LB7. So there's still some chance. *INHALES COPIUM!!!*

[@moonleung6384]

I mean hasn't every anni servant been a major character in main story?

[@CallMeNoa]

Her profile literally says she's just a guest character and won't be in the story.

[@darkstorm2579]

@@CallMeNoa Well a parallel version of her did show up in LB7, so it's possible she'll make an actual appearance in the story, but best to take that speculation with a grain of salt. Actually make that a lot of salt.

[@jatisoem7472]

this scene is so cute. Glad that I have her

[@jamesomara3361]

Desperately need Hans roasting True Ancestor Princess for talking like a Shakespeare character. DESPERATELY need that lmaoooo

[@traumaloop]

just gonna bookmark this here until after the tsukire fan tl is finished and im done reading it 👀

[@needledealer9971]

Ive been questioning the point of this journey for years now but now I understand that protecting Earth is absolutely worth it

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Although I could have done without some parts, I did see some value in how the different versions of arc communicate with one another. Based on how they talk though, it doesn't seem like the second ascension is from arc route but rather ciel route where she went berserk and tried to kill ciel. Which makes her fate even more bitter. Hopefully Arcueid will be able to become happy with Shiki in some timeline

[@cheesepuffsthings]

I'm pretty sure this Arcueid is from *both* routes. Like our Funny Vamp would be constrained by silly things like mutually exclusive timelines.

[@MokoES]

@@cheesepuffsthings yeah its tipical for nasu to pull thos stuff like with hollow ataraxia being some weird timeline where everyone except kirei lived(wasnt just in the dream, even whe bazett woke up it was all still like that)

[@MrInuhanyou123]

@@cheesepuffsthings the thing is her original description says "certain route" as if it's a specific one rather than arcueids appearance in general in tsukihime

[@luisfillipebeserra2108]

​@@MrInuhanyou123well she seems to be close to shiki so it must be her route? but at the same time archetype said that she went berseak but that only happens in the ciel route, maybe an event after the arcueid route?

[@Alavaria]

Most productive meeting ever.

[@meatymeat717]

Is this what multiple personalities disorder look like?

[@internetjerk2839]

More like multiple possibilities of the person Arcuid could end up becoming due to timeline shenanigans

[@susano.o]

Finally, now those Tsukihime fan can finally understand that Asc 1 and 3 is literally for Ritsuka/Gudao while Asc 2 is Shiki.

[@theleechqueen]

Ascension 1 couldn't be bothered to make chocolate though. Given she is a canon version of Arcueid that will likely appear in Remake or Melty down the line it seems unlikely she'd be shipped with FGO MC.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Ascension 1 is unrelated to anyone, although she can see all versions of arcueid through their vessel. She is neutral

[@vicount3944]

And those FGO fan can't even read when they think Asc 1 is the same as 3, lmao

[@rogueascendant6611]

I have some doubts. Some fans can be loudly vocal of their opinions. Nowadays we often let this loudmouths get the best of us. Riling up many for some pointless crap.

[@vicount3944]

@@rogueascendant6611 you mean like trying to start a waifu war over different ascensions?

[@j_Snow]

3:01 public utility service

[@meliodasdelacharite2690]

Did Arcueid ship her future self with the master?

[@williambenedictalava2634]

I believe it is.

[@susano.o]

To be correct Arcuied rooting her future other timeline to be with ritsuka. Just to make herself happy like Arcuied does.

[@williambenedictalava2634]

@@susano.o welp who doesn't want to live a happy life.

[@SpideyfanX]

And her past self too

[@FusionLeonidas11]

Damn, now I really want to get into tsukihime, feel like I just spoiled myself

[@TimeDiver0]

@Neobenedict, was the decision to translate True Ancestor Princess' dialogue with this overly-formal manner of speech a *_deliberate_* choice on your part? Or did Lasengele use an archaic dialect for _this_ particular Valentine's scene, but *not* for Kukulkan's, where TAP's speech is overly-blunt/borderline rude?

[@inaciomaron699]

I think it's a deliberate choice of Neo. She does speak with a more mature tone, but not to the point of being Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe.

[@pablotomasllodra4423]

Wait, Arcueid knows how to cook?!

[@guardiansoulblade2673]

Yeah, you remember Carnival Phantasm right?

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

​@@guardiansoulblade2673she once made okonomiyaki with octopus and wild demon boars from a dead apostle

[@AceTrainerRaf]

2:01 3:02 6:08 6:33 6:54

[@pilotmanpaul]

Pretty surprising the Tsukihime fans aren't out for blood here.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

Oh they are. But some know that this is a good compromise. Arcrueid loves Shiki Tohno. That will never ever change. But Archetype: Earth is available. Even Brunestud herself ships them. :D

[@13igworm]

Soon now Arcuied...soon you will be mine.

[@vergiltheartofpower6616]

Archetype: Earth Arcuied is ours to take then? I'm fine with that.

[@razzildarkbrew1952]

Ever since Ikumi voiced Kita, I can't unhear Kita whenever Arcuied talks

[@aetherdraw]

All I hear from Archetype is Lena haha

[@entropy404]

She really called us John Chaldea 😭

[@abaum7012]

Nice

[@noadpalmier147]

So basically, True Ancestor-chan likes it bigger, Arcueid likes it when it’s genuine, and Earth-chan doesn’t know anything about it so Arcueid shows her how it’s done… 😏

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

The problem with auto scroll is that it Scrolls too damn fast to read half the time.

[@TethoSama]

Man, I wonder what would happen if somehow, someway Chaldea manages to summon both Shiki and Shirou. Now, that is what I want to see, though I guess for Shirou it would at least help him find his way to Avalon because Merlin is there to help him or something.

[@GnosisZX]

Now I wanna see gaia/alaya bickering

[@ciosaforever]

I don't see tepeu

[@xrain7454]

Are all of the scenes translated in-game with the app?

[@darkstorm2579]

No, it’s a fan translation as this is from the Japan server. We’ll have to wait until 2025 to get the official English version.

[@xrain7454]

@Darkstorm25 No not NA. I'm talking about OP's app. They have a app that translates the jp version which I'm playing on.

[@darkstorm2579]

@@xrain7454 Interesting. Didn't know that.

[@thefool8224]

@@xrain7454 .there is an app for that?

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@darkstorm2579 A fan translation that do better than other apps or machine translation for you. Don't underestimate this one here that Neo and others been using. You've be surprised the group with this software have done a marvelous job in translating the JP Main Story and Valentines. They also integrated the already translated dialogues from NA to JP. Official or not. I'm still happy that I got to read this in english as I play the JP server too. No need to wait for NA since I don't know if I can still play this game in the future.

[@yunggaryy3088]

How long will it be till she comes back in the shop if at all? ☹️

[@karnaarjunarama8308]

KITACHANG!

[@namelessotaku1918]

This archetype earth valentine scene is a major F u to those hardcore tsukihime fans that thought arcueid only belongs to shiki. Cmon man, grow up, this version is mostly different than the tsukihime one. Which means that she's exclusively for FGO mc.

[@vicount3944]

I like how your refute to those who think Arc only belongs to Shiki is that she "exclusively" belongs to "fgo mc" You people are equally stupid. arcueid here literally talks about shiki. 3rd Ascension and 2nd are different. So how exactly are "those people" proven wrong when 2nd is still in love with Shiki?

[@wahtniz2237]

But Arcueid still truly loves Shiki only tho?? Also we are cool cause this is not NTR or anything.

[@wahtniz2237]

@@vicount3944 Yeah, it is so funny 🤣

[@KazenoUta431]

Tohno Shiki was 17 on 1983 so Arcueid has meet him at that time include Ciel, Akiha and etc. I thought Tohno Shiki had met Fujimaru and Mash (I have read some manga about they met Tohno Shiki for the 1st time) after Arcueid incident so many year and she was gone (They were forced to apart). If Arcueid join Chaldea as a guest in 2022, then I guess it almost like it had been 39 years ever since.

[@vicount3944]

@@KazenoUta431 That's old Tsukihime, the remake takes place in modern day. Also no, Guda never met Shiki yet. Arcueid talks about him in Chadlea but Guda never met him. Also Shiki and Arcueid aren't forced apart for long. The Tsukihime 2 idea is that he goes and frees her from her castle.

[@tommykaung5882]

Kita Kita.... Ops! Wrong anime

[@FateTrap-ec9cz]

I don't like the concept of having three individuals in one body. They should've just done the Koyanskaya route and made two versions. This just makes me feel like Arc's bf is getting NTR'd because if this is three entities in one body, they're all experiencing the same thing. They are consciously aware of what is going on to their body that is being shared among the three. That's crazy. And in Japan NTR is a huge popular genre, so I feel like this is done intentionally LOL

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

They make it clear that they are completely different people despite sharing one Saint Graph. And Arcrueid knows where her heart belongs to and is very supportive of AE to experience a similar happiness

[@FateTrap-ec9cz]

@@ChaldeaWarmaster In this video it's made clear that she is staring at a mirror and talking to herself which is evident enough to show that this is indeed 3 souls in one body.

[@berkanarslan-p6c]

My head has increased, I'm getting angry, please don't add this will take it, please I'm getting depressed

[@kiarakama2572]

I am expecting some great big war down here in Comment section. Ngl, I am disappointed so far. Maybe those diehards Tsuki simps don't play FGO anymore so they don't know about this?? Boring

[@capetel368]

"Some men want to see the world burn"

[@HachannEinzbern]

I can't even get mad anymore, just disappointed, this has happened so many times for no reason that I get sad

[@HerMi.T]

i am diehard tsukihime fan and i love type moon stuff in general. Also i love fate series and grand order as well (except gacha stuffs.)

[@TheKazuma410P]

​@@HerMi.TGotta say somewhere, it's weird how some people comprehend Type-Moon stuff as a whole but not the basic idea of "alternate timeline versions" for these moments.

[@berry5974]

There isn't really any point in getting upset over it. It's gonna happen regardless of how one feels about it, so it's useless to be all butthurt. Just disappointment.

[@Big_Biba]

Nasu can't have a single servant not fall in love with the mc bro. The disrespect to Shiki is crazy.

[@Big_Biba]

Akiha better anyway💪💪💪

[@knucklejoe26]

We have a good few servants who don't want to bang the mc. Like Medea, Tomoe, Etc.

[@rogueascendant6611]

You don't know much about Fate that much huh Ignore the fanbase fandom yada yada Women in Fate are starved of kindness and most of them are non-humans. Most of them already get the gist that humans reciprocate their feelings of fear and dislike to them. They experienced the worst of the worst So it's a surprised for them that Ritsuka, a normal human treat them with genuine kindness and care instead the opposite. Arcueid for example. She lived centuries without the feeling of love and good from others. Her encounter with Shiki even though bloody at first change everything for her. It was the first time she felt anything within her that she feel attracted to the boy. It's noticeable how much this girls need some love and kindness for once in their life.

[@Big_Biba]

@@rogueascendant6611 i get what you're saying. I guess i was just butthurt, my b.

[@iguoyrxayananikihs9505]

@@rogueascendant6611 So it is just a typical nice guy with Harem Troup?? Bruh just say that it is for self insert power fantasy. Shiki x Arcueid makes more sense than Ritsuka x Arc Earth which makes no sense at all. Like Dude already have best girl, Mash and have gone many adventures already. Now random girl falling for some nice guy?? When there is almost zero to no development?? Just say this is for self insert fantasy and I will acknowledge it. But not your "Nice guy get all girls" nonsense.

[@HachannEinzbern]

I was fine with girls falling for the MC at first, but the more it happens the more stupid it gets, Ritsuka doesn't love anyone besides Mash in the canon, that's a fact, and even that they barelly show because Ritsuka rarelly gets monologues or even normal dialogue. Doing with random girls is fine but making girls with actually good development and good relationships with other characters to now fall in love with Ritsuka doesn't make sense. Hakuno have a good relationship with Nero and Tamamo, the FSN girls have with Shirou, the Tsukihime ones with Shiki, but for Guda the most that they have is friendship with a one-sided loved that never gets answered or even developed, if they actually want to give fanservice then just make them do references about their loved ones or something like that, and no, making them conveniently forget about their loved ones but remembering everything else doesn't count (AKA Jeanne)

[@r.k845]

Careful. Terminally online people who need help will get offended by this.

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

Now this is a person who doesn't read.

[@ozzboom9907]

Gudamelt canon

[@K0braKing]

> Ritsuka doesn't love anyone but Mash in canon that's a fact I mean if you wanna go that route(only loves mash, others like Melt don't count) then one could argue that they don't even love Mash either, could be just good friends

[@darkstorm2579]

Okay, someone clearly didn't pay attention when playing FGO, or Fate in general. Whenever a Servant is summoned, they are basically a copy of the Heroic Spirit that's recorded in the Throne of Heroes. Memories of each summoning are not carried over to each copy unless they had a significant impact on the Servant's Spirit Origin. While yes, any Servants summoned to Chaldea that appeared in other Fate works do possess some memories of their time there, but every one of them considers the version of them appearing there as a different life/self. Just because the Extra version of Nero fell in love with Hakuno, that doesn't mean all subsequent summonings of Nero have to be in love with Hakuno as well. Under normal circumstances, Nero wouldn't even have any recollection of Hakuno if she's summoned again, because like I said, Servants do not retain memories of each materialization once they return to the Throne. The only reason why this isn't the case in FGO is because Chaldea's summoning system is different than the one used for a Holy Grail War, allowing those Servants to retain their memories. Another exception to this is Artoria, who retained her memories of the Fourth Holy Grail War during FSN, but that was because she was technically still alive and was only able to materialize as a Servant due to making a contract with the World to try to win the Holy Grail to save her kingdom. It's only under very unusual circumstances that a Servant is able to retain their memories of a previous summoning. Also, regarding the FSN girls, especially Rin and Sakura, Pseudo Servants don't count because it's just a Heroic Spirit possessing their body (usually one that can't be normally summoned due to circumstances). Ishtar and Ereshkigal do not love Shirou simply because Rin (the girl they possess) did, because they are not Rin. Rin's feelings are her own and they don't carry over to the Heroic Spirit possessing her. Same holds true for Pavarti and Kama. As for Arcueid, it's a bit more complicated. Her 2nd Ascension is the Arcueid from Tsukihime and has her memories for Shiki (as well as her feelings for him). However, her 3rd Ascension is not. In fact, that version of her is one that didn't drink Roa's blood and never met Shiki (notice how only the 2nd Ascension is the one making allusions to him). The 3rd Ascension has no ties to Shiki, so it makes sense that she doesn't have feelings for him (heck, Arcueid even encourages her to pursue a relationship with Ritsuka rather than fall in love with Shiki).