Has the Sports Card Hobby LOST ITS MIND

Luka optic auto goes to the upgrade shop comes back a 10 but the auto is gets smoked.
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[@Lennoxroadpoe]

I don’t like snitches at all … it’s his card why are we making videos about what someone does to their cards ?

[@garygordon3075]

Except the part where he scams someone by selling it to them

[@Mephisto702]

great take 🤡

[@savagehenryVii]

everyone snitches. prison ptsd?

[@EYoung88]

This needs to be addressed and stopped. Grading companies have said that cleaning cards are not allowed.

[@sp123]

this is the canary in the coalmine....we need to do something before it gets out of control

[@tatasandbrewskies9786]

Got too aggressive on the rub down your rubbing it out get a little too excited and go a little faster than you want to..I mean I can relate to this 😳🤷‍♂️

[@jimbobrobertson3285]

Lol woah now! “Woah woah woah, nice shootin Tex”!

[@PayDay4Youtube]

I was just about to write this lmao

[@BCcards]

I’m not an auto guy but idk rather a psa 7 auto 10 than a psa 10 and faded auto. You are buying the auto

[@EYoung88]

100%

[@panzer_armee_afrika5795]

why doesn't PSA put the serial number on the card label like SGC does? Makes it easier to track serial number cards for re-submissions

[@terrynewhartjr1093]

Great work to all who continue to get this information out. Thank you.

[@AbelinVegas]

This is the stuff PSA should easily catch since the card is numbered. 🤦‍♂️

[@thunderousooner527]

All this shows Graded cards are a joke. And they’re probably a scam.

[@Jacob_Spang]

It just shows how far someone will go for that instant gratification. Grading is subjective. Buy the card, not the grade.

[@ericperry2032]

Q: Has the hobby lost its mind? A: No, it can't lose what it doesn't have.

[@scottiebcards2354]

Great video, Neo! Very well said.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

Thanks buddy

[@collector_chick1379]

lol the instagram account says always buying high end raw…..wonder why haha

[@joshw9558]

Chasing cardboard and ink...

[@nicholasmantia9052]

If the auto got smeared, this should NO WAY be a PSA 10....... It should be degraded to a 7.....

[@beachrain8617]

Well that is why they got a grade for the card and one for the auto. Autos can be smeared in packaging or by the player signing. Most autos are written on a sticker so it's not even part of the card technically.

[@loganward6691]

There has to be consequences for these idiots that are altering/cleaning cards. Until then they are going to keep doing crap like this. So much hobby greed! What a waste of great cards😩

[@GilkSportsCards]

“Rubbing it out, getting excited” - come on Neo this is a family channel 😂. Have a good one buddy.

[@davegarven]

I'd prefer a 9 with a 10 auto than a 10 with a 8 auto any day of the week on a card like this. Maybe it's just me but the point of that card is the auto.

[@toppssportcardd]

It is ridiculous that some scum bag wanted to make a few extra dollars and ruined the card. I am a collector and this hurts me to the bine seeing things like this. Thanks for the video neo

[@arresthillary9502]

Charlotte Card Show this weekend

[@idonttext9783]

its all over printed and rubbed down

[@FMFnumber1]

I’m here just for the sarcasm! 😊

[@Carlos-mf2wn]

i don't condone this. Yes, it has to be decertify. I really hate this. I am no Luka fan, but it sucks to ruin the autograph. In my opinion, the card is now worthless. It's a 20 dollar card now. People stop doing this shit to the cards. It's stupid.

[@nydibs]

Which is why it should be mandatory to grade the autograph itself

[@warhammerfaction]

Why would it have to be decertified? how do we know it’s cleaned with wax or spray? Guy could of simply just used a micro fiber and went to rough around the auto

[@beachrain8617]

@@warhammerfaction I don't think PSA allows people to wipe cards down if they can detect it. The two cards were clearly cracked, altered and resubmitted, this seems like fraud was committed.

[@Hectekk]

Do they track all numbers or just under /10? Many people saying only rare numbers. Would love to know?

[@sp123]

if you grade cards and send them to the PSA vault, they all have their serial in the database. I think they only check lower printed serials like /25 or lower so the pop report doesn't look weird.

[@MikelineTV]

The grading hobby IS rigged and nobody cares anymore. Love the negativity that brings the sports cards community together

[@vintagesportsshack]

DON'T BE STUPID!!!!! Been saying it for 2 years!!!

[@beachrain8617]

PSA should address this, pull his cert numbers and flag his card as altered. PSA needs to treat every faded auto on a big card as altered and work harder to detect if it got the Chinese massage parlor rub down sucky sucky me love you long time.

[@Jacob_Spang]

Yeah! Thats alot of risk v/s reward. Kudos for being able to pull that off. Personally, I don't need to go to extremes to feel happy with my hobby position. Check certs and research ALOT when buying high end ppl

[@bigrayrips4725]

The Luka is clearly a sign of fraud. Not sure if PSA will take any legal action as stated in their updated policies. Let's just remember the submitter paid a few hundred if not more for that single card. If I were PSA as a business, give the guy a 10 and keep him coming back. Gotta keep the fiends happy right?

[@freddiefalcon2402]

Maybe you have covered this before, but I don't hear much content regarding pop reports as it pertains to crack and resubs. I run across many pop 2, 3, 4 cards that makes me wonder if a pop 3 card has been cracked and resubbed once...maybe twice. Just interested in your take on population focus. Thanks!

[@nabzy28]

That card is trash, now. There's literally zero reason to even want that thing. Having him sign, in person or at a show, any similarly serial numbered parallel and having it certified authentic is far superior to that card, at this point.

[@KeithLund]

A card with that badly faded of an auto is considered worthless to me. I would never buy a card that looked that bad. I couldn't care less if it's a PSA 10. The auto is the most important part of the card, and that Luka card looks hideous now. Same for the Love. People who do that to cards are monsters.

[@AnthonyGiallourakis]

"Bad muzzle control"? LMAO. Don't they have a pill for that NEO?😂

[@ianhawkins1221]

Definitely should be decertified but if it isn’t this will get sold at psa 10 comps with slight discount for auto. Seller just has to go to a card show to unload it. Unfortunately someone is going to get screwed before psa even gets wind of this

[@Showcardsusa]

The cert number starting with 96 was just graded. The former cert number, the one cracked, was before they were closely tracking numbered cards

[@IAmMacHD]

If it was an accident and the upgrader is authorized w psa I almost feel like it was an inside job to make it a 10 because of the monumental mess up by the prepper. Like damn I can’t tell the customer I jus ruined their card in the process but if you guys can put a 10 on it we’ll be all good hah

[@3FiresSports]

This is silly. Simple. Just silly that the 9 grade is such a negative that you’d ruin an auto to get a 10. State of the hobby as prices fall. Decertify

[@trader5777]

This is why CGC grades all auto’s. That card should not be a 10. It should be a 10 - 8 auto.

[@custum18]

Autographs are already a very dangerous game longterm. Why would you ever buy one thats already faded, smudged, and looking bad?

[@billp6605]

Haven’t listened yet, but I can easily answer your thumbnail question; Yes….yes we have 😂

[@DanM518]

I'd like to see the card in question I feel like the new pic the scanner quality is questionable. did it overexpose the card or something?

[@KP-AC]

There is no defense here. The raw photo a month ago, and the Jordan love with the same “modus operandi” are clear giveaways. Juiced.

[@wnbacardscom]

Surprised this was sent in after ruining the autograph. Wonder how much more it will fade over time.

[@lgc_opc959]

Love thumbnails starting with WTF!

[@alphaomega9563]

All those Jordan graded psa 10 especially old serial psa numbers been trimmed touched up

[@johnphipps3287]

Yes, grading companies should be responsible and up their grading standards etc. to catch cleaned and/or modified cards, comics etc.

[@KWN-Cards]

The hobby was lost long ago, it just takes some people longer to see what's been right in front of them..

[@hustlecrowe9440]

Damn, I've never seen autos screwed up that bad, dude straight took it into the bath with him to clean the cards.

[@Carliferz]

They aren't tracking any cert numbers. PSA and all grading is an unregulated scam .

[@KeyKiller74]

This guy 100% going to jail 👉🚨👮‍♂👮🚔👋

[@cryptonite8495]

Part of it has lost its mind. I wouldn't say the entire hobby.

[@EYoung88]

Awesome video and great content! I enjoy your videos.

[@gptriplesticks]

The first pic shows an ungraded card with a bright sharp auto.

[@schweezie]

The stupidy in this hobby is unmatched SMH

[@DeliverYouTruth]

your profacy about how the card came to be was a great story.

[@alphaomega9563]

Pro any cards you buy been cleaned and touched up many times.

[@MikelTulp]

That 10 will only ever be sold at a 8 or below price if that

[@jbortega1178]

It only makes yours worth more in the long run

[@warhammerfaction]

how do we know it’s cleaned with wax or spray? Guy could of simply just used a micro fiber and went to rough around the auto benefit of the doubt imo. And this is why the cert won’t get decertified.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

A dry micro fiber is not rubbing and auto off like that.

[@KP-AC]

PSA 10/ auto 3. Spot on with this. I wouldn’t pay PSA 8 price for that card. Would have rather had a 9/10. I think what happened is the blemish was near or on the auto spot and whatever they used they never had an issue previously but it could have been a different ink and cooked them. He should at least tell the public what he is using to screw the cards up lol hopefully won’t ruin some other card. Great video Neo.

[@nydibs]

Someone will buy it low and fix the auto and get a 10/10

[@blueodum]

Autos not signed aftermarket, i.e. integral to the card, should be considered part of the surface of the card. PSA should max out at an 8 for any faded auto - solves this particular issue in its tracks.

[@beachrain8617]

That would help fix the issue. The problem is how can PSA know that the players pen wasn't running low on ink and that is why the auto is faded? Plus ink fades over time, a card sitting in a pack for years gets opened and that auto can be all smeared and faded. But yeah the auto is on the card so it should lower the overall grade if faded. PSA is just enabling scammers.

[@Jonathan-ln6in]

Gamblers hobby

[@Sandman60077]

I don't care.

[@derekbaker2665]

If PSA doesn't find a way to detect the "juice" this is going to keep on happening. I keep wondering what "juiced" cards are going to look like in 20 years.

[@beachrain8617]

I heard they are training the graders to smell the cards to detect the juice.

[@bogeytmf]

So, just to be clear: “someone was rubbing it out, got a little too excited, went too fast, and then smeared the card with the flowing juice?”

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

Yup

[@edwingeisslerjr.6371]

Not a 10 in my opinion

[@forpetesake20]

trash in trash out

[@dklauf]

The industry has become so shady and full of bad characters that I am only here for the drams.

[@beachrain8617]

That's why I lean into comics more, cards are cutthroat.

[@jrs4101]

Well they're technically grading the card and not the auto itself.

[@3FiresSports]

Missing the point. PSA said they aren’t accepting cards that have used solutions like Kurtz. This is clear evidence that a solution was used to improve imperfections. That’s the issue

[@nydibs]

@3FiresSports - unfortunately it’s not clear evidence bc the auto can get smudged just from handling it. But it should be mandatory to grade the auto if grading the card

[@3FiresSports]

@@nydibs what? I’ve handled thousands of cards and not one auto smudge when handling it. That is clearly faded from something foreign being introduced to the card. Maybe sunlight from an old card I could understand. PSA should notice the deterioration of the auto and change in grade and ban this submitter and void the label

[@nydibs]

@@3FiresSports - PSA makes it clear that the auto is not considered part of the grade, the auto is graded separately. Which is why autos should be mandatory graded instead of optional

[@3FiresSports]

@@nydibs we aren’t talking about grading the auto tho. We are talking about PSA’s new rule that cards can not be altered by a foreign substance. That’s the issue here. The auto fading is evidence that a product like Kurtz was used. That’s the point

[@pje8462]

No one is going to buy that piece of shite card with the nonauto auto

[@adamd2906]

Yes they will. That is why people do it

[@leehaskins307]

one of my favorite autos is my wilt chamberlain auto card in a ball point pen that looks faded he signed during his playing years… but its not faded… its just they way he lightly signed the card in his hand… its a scratchy ball point pen auto… and my most favorite auto card… not faded thru time.. just the ball point pen did not stick on the card as he signed it.. and he does not have many playing years ball point pen auto cards.. i love that card !!!!

[@blueodum]

That is different - Wilt signed the card after it was released to the public - it is considered an aftermarket auto. These cards are auto cards - released with the auto on it already.

[@leehaskins307]

@@blueodum yeah.. I agreee.. which makes the Wilt card so rare in a faded look… so yeah I think as u said the the current auto card faded is not cool.. i agree. i would never buy a current auto card faded...

[@marketsmove]

100% rather have 10 vs 9, auto is an auto. This seems childish to fallout. The card was graded by pros, let them do their thing.

[@PTdoubleOT]

Publicly admitting that that company has you by the throat.

[@dustinp5299]

the market doesn't agree with you because ugly/faded autos like that Luka certainly don't bring the same price as nice, bold autos

[@Arch954]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CySlamaJamaSportsCards]

😒

[@charleswong7502]

PSA is not doing their job 😢

[@blueodum]

What else is new.

[@coreytai5114]

Wouldn’t you rather have the 9 with the bold auto over the 10 with a faded/wiped auto?

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

You would think

[@coreytai5114]

@@NEO_Cards_Comics it’s the worship of PSA 10’s in the hobby that drive this sort of thing.

[@beachrain8617]

I mean it's a rare card do people not understand that a PSA 9 is still "Mint" condition? FFS. The price between a 9 & 10 shouldn't be that far off for a rare card where there is no competition in the market. He could have named his price for those cards regardless. What an Idiot.

[@leehaskins307]

I had a raw gretzky auto card… i wanted to grade it with some other cards and wiped them all down with a clean cloth.. low and behold i smeared the auto of gretzky on the card… i was so unhappy.. I said that is a lesson learned.. i put the card in the trash and just walked away.. i’ll never swipe a auto card again….

[@crazykev6491]

Ouch!!!😢